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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 17 2015 01:28 GMT
#69
/in
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 19 2015 22:16 GMT
#123
##teamvanilla
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 20 2015 17:05 GMT
#148
3 minutes is too long for shenanigans updates. Although at that point someone will take it into their own hands.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2015 23:10 GMT
#342
On October 22 2015 08:04 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:56 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it.


Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition.

In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat.

1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum.

2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_-

3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health.

we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely.

ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good)

this.
this is a big post of nonsense.


this is basically you saying welcome back : D . I'll tldr the post. I think bh's argument for random makes sense coming out of scum only if you except town not to listen(or you can sabotage the rng) and makes sense out of town only if your trying to look substancey and dont actually think it'll come to a random lynch. So I dont think BH honestly wants an rng lynch / : cause that would be silly, even in a game with good scum. What does that say for his alignment? Not much at all. Basically at the time I didnt think bhs actions meant he was townie, just that he was being active and probably insincere.

I might be totally wrong about but such is the risks of early reads. But yeah, rng is silly, case in point your on the chopping block right now for no reason. Do you think your scum? Do you think BH is derp? if no to both this statements then mine has at least as much chance to be true as there is to lynch into you and hit maf.

Can you tldr your tldr?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2015 23:12 GMT
#346
anywho, I put my faith in RNGesus
##Vote raynpelikoneet
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2015 23:14 GMT
#351
On October 22 2015 08:13 Xatalos wrote:
wat the video doesn't work? :/

link works, but not embedded
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2015 23:17 GMT
#360
On October 22 2015 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 08:15 Vivax wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
anywho, I put my faith in RNGesus
##Vote raynpelikoneet


I really hope for us that you aren't mafia with yamato or this is set to become a pretty sad game.

he is not scum.

I feel like this might be a first...coolbeans
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2015 23:18 GMT
#362
On October 22 2015 08:17 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 08:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:04 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:56 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it.


Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition.

In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat.

1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum.

2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_-

3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health.

we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely.

ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good)

this.
this is a big post of nonsense.


this is basically you saying welcome back : D . I'll tldr the post. I think bh's argument for random makes sense coming out of scum only if you except town not to listen(or you can sabotage the rng) and makes sense out of town only if your trying to look substancey and dont actually think it'll come to a random lynch. So I dont think BH honestly wants an rng lynch / : cause that would be silly, even in a game with good scum. What does that say for his alignment? Not much at all. Basically at the time I didnt think bhs actions meant he was townie, just that he was being active and probably insincere.

I might be totally wrong about but such is the risks of early reads. But yeah, rng is silly, case in point your on the chopping block right now for no reason. Do you think your scum? Do you think BH is derp? if no to both this statements then mine has at least as much chance to be true as there is to lynch into you and hit maf.

Can you tldr your tldr?


Rayns a big meanie, nothings changed. Plus I think BH doesnt actually think theres gonna be an rng lynch, his post is just a way to look daring plus active as ethier alignment. I wasnt a fan of him becoming entrenched as town based of something pretty neutral, the reason I posted was because I felt it wasnt obvius that his rng theory was neutral. Rng play is a risky one for scum, but if you assume town wont go for it and are just feigning the play to build filter, then it's totally neutral.

gumshoe you need to work on your tldr.

TL;DR: BH's RNG post=null

See how that works?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2015 23:20 GMT
#363
On October 22 2015 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 08:17 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:04 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:56 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it.


Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition.

In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat.

1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum.

2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_-

3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health.

we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely.

ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good)

this.
this is a big post of nonsense.


this is basically you saying welcome back : D . I'll tldr the post. I think bh's argument for random makes sense coming out of scum only if you except town not to listen(or you can sabotage the rng) and makes sense out of town only if your trying to look substancey and dont actually think it'll come to a random lynch. So I dont think BH honestly wants an rng lynch / : cause that would be silly, even in a game with good scum. What does that say for his alignment? Not much at all. Basically at the time I didnt think bhs actions meant he was townie, just that he was being active and probably insincere.

I might be totally wrong about but such is the risks of early reads. But yeah, rng is silly, case in point your on the chopping block right now for no reason. Do you think your scum? Do you think BH is derp? if no to both this statements then mine has at least as much chance to be true as there is to lynch into you and hit maf.

Can you tldr your tldr?


Rayns a big meanie, nothings changed. .

explain

yeah rayn's been sunshine and rainbows so far. obvious scum.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2015 23:22 GMT
#366
On October 22 2015 08:20 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 08:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:17 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:04 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:56 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it.


Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition.

In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat.

1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum.

2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_-

3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health.

we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely.

ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good)

this.
this is a big post of nonsense.


this is basically you saying welcome back : D . I'll tldr the post. I think bh's argument for random makes sense coming out of scum only if you except town not to listen(or you can sabotage the rng) and makes sense out of town only if your trying to look substancey and dont actually think it'll come to a random lynch. So I dont think BH honestly wants an rng lynch / : cause that would be silly, even in a game with good scum. What does that say for his alignment? Not much at all. Basically at the time I didnt think bhs actions meant he was townie, just that he was being active and probably insincere.

I might be totally wrong about but such is the risks of early reads. But yeah, rng is silly, case in point your on the chopping block right now for no reason. Do you think your scum? Do you think BH is derp? if no to both this statements then mine has at least as much chance to be true as there is to lynch into you and hit maf.

Can you tldr your tldr?


Rayns a big meanie, nothings changed. Plus I think BH doesnt actually think theres gonna be an rng lynch, his post is just a way to look daring plus active as ethier alignment. I wasnt a fan of him becoming entrenched as town based of something pretty neutral, the reason I posted was because I felt it wasnt obvius that his rng theory was neutral. Rng play is a risky one for scum, but if you assume town wont go for it and are just feigning the play to build filter, then it's totally neutral.

gumshoe you need to work on your tldr.

TL;DR: BH's RNG post=null

See how that works?


No it doesn't work like that cause when gummy is being logorrhoic I can townread him.

I am townreading him, but I stand by my post
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2015 23:24 GMT
#371
On October 22 2015 08:22 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 08:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:17 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:04 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:56 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it.


Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition.

In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat.

1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum.

2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_-

3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health.

we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely.

ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good)

this.
this is a big post of nonsense.


this is basically you saying welcome back : D . I'll tldr the post. I think bh's argument for random makes sense coming out of scum only if you except town not to listen(or you can sabotage the rng) and makes sense out of town only if your trying to look substancey and dont actually think it'll come to a random lynch. So I dont think BH honestly wants an rng lynch / : cause that would be silly, even in a game with good scum. What does that say for his alignment? Not much at all. Basically at the time I didnt think bhs actions meant he was townie, just that he was being active and probably insincere.

I might be totally wrong about but such is the risks of early reads. But yeah, rng is silly, case in point your on the chopping block right now for no reason. Do you think your scum? Do you think BH is derp? if no to both this statements then mine has at least as much chance to be true as there is to lynch into you and hit maf.

Can you tldr your tldr?


Rayns a big meanie, nothings changed. Plus I think BH doesnt actually think theres gonna be an rng lynch, his post is just a way to look daring plus active as ethier alignment. I wasnt a fan of him becoming entrenched as town based of something pretty neutral, the reason I posted was because I felt it wasnt obvius that his rng theory was neutral. Rng play is a risky one for scum, but if you assume town wont go for it and are just feigning the play to build filter, then it's totally neutral.

gumshoe you need to work on your tldr.

TL;DR: BH's RNG post=null

See how that works?


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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2015 23:31 GMT
#377
On October 22 2015 08:28 Vivax wrote:
Oh it's some shitty placeholder text pasted together from parts of one of cicero's speeches.
I really want to lynch you now hopeless.

google lorem ipsum, its just filler text...gumshoe said he liked words =\
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2015 23:32 GMT
#380
On October 22 2015 08:31 gumshoe wrote:
Still leaving my vote on vivax though, because he has the superior rack,

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497022-mini-mafia-the-vanilla-experience-voting-thread#5
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2015 23:34 GMT
#387
On October 22 2015 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
atalos you're gonna go to see prodigy on Nov 3th?

3th?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2015 23:39 GMT
#397
On October 22 2015 08:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:17 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:04 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:56 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it.


Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition.

In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat.

1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum.

2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_-

3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health.

we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely.

ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good)

this.
this is a big post of nonsense.


this is basically you saying welcome back : D . I'll tldr the post. I think bh's argument for random makes sense coming out of scum only if you except town not to listen(or you can sabotage the rng) and makes sense out of town only if your trying to look substancey and dont actually think it'll come to a random lynch. So I dont think BH honestly wants an rng lynch / : cause that would be silly, even in a game with good scum. What does that say for his alignment? Not much at all. Basically at the time I didnt think bhs actions meant he was townie, just that he was being active and probably insincere.

I might be totally wrong about but such is the risks of early reads. But yeah, rng is silly, case in point your on the chopping block right now for no reason. Do you think your scum? Do you think BH is derp? if no to both this statements then mine has at least as much chance to be true as there is to lynch into you and hit maf.

Can you tldr your tldr?


Rayns a big meanie, nothings changed. .

explain

gumshoe please.

please. last time.

Is this not it?

On October 22 2015 08:31 gumshoe wrote:
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On October 22 2015 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:17 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:04 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:56 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it.


Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition.

In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat.

1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum.

2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_-

3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health.

we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely.

ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good)

this.
this is a big post of nonsense.


this is basically you saying welcome back : D . I'll tldr the post. I think bh's argument for random makes sense coming out of scum only if you except town not to listen(or you can sabotage the rng) and makes sense out of town only if your trying to look substancey and dont actually think it'll come to a random lynch. So I dont think BH honestly wants an rng lynch / : cause that would be silly, even in a game with good scum. What does that say for his alignment? Not much at all. Basically at the time I didnt think bhs actions meant he was townie, just that he was being active and probably insincere.

I might be totally wrong about but such is the risks of early reads. But yeah, rng is silly, case in point your on the chopping block right now for no reason. Do you think your scum? Do you think BH is derp? if no to both this statements then mine has at least as much chance to be true as there is to lynch into you and hit maf.

Can you tldr your tldr?


Rayns a big meanie, nothings changed. .

explain


Remember that time you tunneled me until I swore on my life? Then got drunk and imploded? (taking koshi along with you) pretty sure you mislynched me twice as well. my memories of you are not particularly pleasant overall ) :

Ritoky- his argument vs me was fine, he hasnt played much vs me so the things he pointed out are reasonable, I also liked his confidence over Bh. Generally hes to the point, and decicive. Reads to me as confident town.

Chrom- dont like how he went after ritoky when ritoky was just rolling perception plus charisma. I wasn't being particularly townie at the time yet he seemed confident that ritoky was needlessly pouncing / : could be insider knowledge? Also his start is kinda awkward. Reading as scummy.

Still leaving my vote on vivax though, because he has the superior rack,

Hopeless1der
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October 21 2015 23:43 GMT
#401
On October 22 2015 08:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
saying i was a meanie in some game does not mean i am one in here.

but you called his post nonsense!! so mean rayn, how could you do that?
Hopeless1der
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October 22 2015 20:53 GMT
#594
I'm sorry RNGesus I cannot in good conscience go along with voting rayn when he's being rayn.
##unvote
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 22 2015 20:55 GMT
#596
On October 23 2015 05:51 Xatalos wrote:
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On October 23 2015 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hopeless could you play properly and post more of your thoughts.
Like i am pretty sure you are town but i am also pretty sure you're gonna get lynched because other people do not know why you are town and nothing i say can possibly change that.


So why is he town?

Maybe you should let me deal with that...actually something you posted bothered me

On October 23 2015 05:33 Xatalos wrote:
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On October 23 2015 05:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is absolutely nothing alignment indicative in your rng Blazinghand, you know it, everyone should know it. "Figuring out" something regarding it is a waste of time.


Well it's kind of like... Imagine player X. He has a great record of posting a lengthy introduction post as scum when he starts the game, and as town he's so far just immediately jumped in and started posting actual content. Now in a current game he immediately makes a lengthy introduction post.

Could he have done it as town to make himself harder to read? Possibly. But I'd still take into account that maybe the meta is repeating itself, no?

And if you read my posts, it's not just that about Blazinghand, but more like how he was so excited about the RNG when he's several times before said that it's pro-town. It would be harder to convey that excitement as scum when he think it's so pro-town clearly.

It reads like "lengthy introduction == scum" but BH is not scum because he's excited? What did I miss here?
Hopeless1der
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October 22 2015 20:57 GMT
#599
On October 23 2015 05:52 Onegu wrote:
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On October 23 2015 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Onegu i just tell you who to lynch and then you vote for them, right.
I don't have to tell you anything.



NONONO

Its the other way around. I tell you who to vote. And tell you its one of my "gut reads" and you vote them.

You have to actually provide reasons. I dont.

But this response and the one before it are from a town rayn most likely lol.


Are you trying to get spite lynched? I may not be the most suited to make threats, but if you continue to play up the bravado without contributing I will fully support lynching you.
Hopeless1der
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October 22 2015 20:59 GMT
#604
just so im clear, what is your current read of BH, Xata? town/null/scum?
Hopeless1der
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October 22 2015 21:04 GMT
#608
Ritoky, what's your read on gumshoe now?
Hopeless1der
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October 22 2015 21:17 GMT
#616
On October 23 2015 06:12 Xatalos wrote:
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On October 23 2015 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 22 2015 07:26 Blazinghand wrote:
"would you have done this if you were mafia?" --> the answer to this question is always "yes". I'm willing to lie, cheat, steal, doctor photographs, put items in boxes, fake plane tickets, pretend to have depression, a death in the family, etc, whatever it takes to win regardless of alignment. I'm one of the few players that does not pull punches as mafia. So yes, as mafia, I'd be fully willing to RNG if I percieved it to be a good idea (which it isn't; I've outlined why RNG is pro-town this game)

Here is what bothers me Xatalos. You continue to townread Blazinghand fro his rng after he says this.


So? He didn't even seem to realize that RNG-stuff was a "towntell" for him until after we started discussing the topic. What's more, even if he did, it wouldn't be so easy to fake the whole push and argue about it with that kind of conviction if he thought it was counter-productive for his faction (as scum). And well, he has just generally been active and producing posts I like. I don't really feel there's any reason to think he's null, let alone scum.

He's definitely null off of the RNG. Thats the entire point. BH has literally said that you have to look at what he does with it, not the fact that he did it. Once done, he's committed to it, even if (and rayn?) are scum he's trapped. All of his followup with respect to how true and great and protown it is have no bearing on his alignment.

His concern with ritoky pulling up games to draw a conclusion make them both townyish to me, but thats not really much considering the subject matter. BH is firmly null atm.
Hopeless1der
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October 22 2015 21:40 GMT
#634
ritoky, where do you stand on gumshoe?
Hopeless1der
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October 22 2015 22:27 GMT
#694
On October 23 2015 07:19 Vivax wrote:
Everyone shut up I'm hardclaiming cop

hahaha too gud
Hopeless1der
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October 22 2015 22:27 GMT
#697
the salt feels real from ritoky, no?
Hopeless1der
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October 22 2015 22:31 GMT
#703
On October 23 2015 06:38 ritoky wrote:
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On October 23 2015 06:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 23 2015 06:27 ritoky wrote:
On October 23 2015 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a question. Xatalos do you seriously think Blazinghand - as town - believes that lynching by RNG on D1 has the best chances of hitting mafia? Like do you SERIOUSLY believe that?


depending on the setup of the game and the structure of PRs, yes.

really?
when he himself just argued it's less likely to hit mafia then not rng lycnhing?


it's actually equally as likely, so i disagree with your premise entirely.

it's actually really simple. i mean i guess it's pretty simple for me cuz i read like 10 of BH's games in the recent past so i could accurately impersonate him. here's your guide to reading BH:

Did he RNG immediately @ the start of the game: if yes -> 80% chance to be town; if no -> 80% chance to be mafia

Did he push the RNG target or just leave it there like a dead fish: if push -> 95% chance to be town; if dead fish - 50% chance to be mafia

Did he gather reads from people arguing with him about why they are better than RNG: yes - DING DING DING town; i don't know he hasn't given reads - 75% town; no - 50% town

rayn, was this your turning point on ritoky? They're right when saying that ritoky posted nothing between "(rayn thinks) ritoky is town" and "POE lynch list include ritoky".
Hopeless1der
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October 23 2015 15:50 GMT
#968
On October 24 2015 00:36 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 24 2015 00:32 Xatalos wrote:
GB, if you're town, seriously don't just commit suicide here. Looks like it's heading towards you vs rayn and it'd be sad if you caused your own death there, like a certain player in my newbie game....


I'm not commiting suicide, I'm getting angry that such shitty scum read on me based on a read that I find very reasonable and I'm having a hard time believing good players can't possibly see I'm town.

On October 24 2015 00:30 Rels wrote:

Xatalos (1): Chromatically




Tell me more about the "shitty scum" reading you. You obviously have more people in mind, who are your detractors?
Hopeless1der
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October 23 2015 15:51 GMT
#972
On October 24 2015 00:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On October 24 2015 00:30 Rels wrote:
GlowingBear (3): marvellosity, yamato77, Vivax, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity


aww i confused the shit out of myself. However, I think all three of those are town so...

goddamn wrong thread
Hopeless1der
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October 23 2015 15:57 GMT
#980
On October 24 2015 00:52 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 24 2015 00:50 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 24 2015 00:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 24 2015 00:32 Xatalos wrote:
GB, if you're town, seriously don't just commit suicide here. Looks like it's heading towards you vs rayn and it'd be sad if you caused your own death there, like a certain player in my newbie game....


I'm not commiting suicide, I'm getting angry that such shitty scum read on me based on a read that I find very reasonable and I'm having a hard time believing good players can't possibly see I'm town.

On October 24 2015 00:30 Rels wrote:

Xatalos (1): Chromatically




Tell me more about the "shitty scum" reading you. You obviously have more people in mind, who are your detractors?


I meant "shitty scumreads", not shitty scum reading me.

I think I buy this. Am I crazy?
Hopeless1der
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October 23 2015 15:59 GMT
#984
I'm gonna sheep marv/rayn. Hoping yamato/onegu show up because they said they would eventually.

##vote: Alakaslam
Hopeless1der
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October 23 2015 15:59 GMT
#987
On October 24 2015 00:58 Vivax wrote:
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On October 24 2015 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 24 2015 00:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 24 2015 00:50 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 24 2015 00:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 24 2015 00:32 Xatalos wrote:
GB, if you're town, seriously don't just commit suicide here. Looks like it's heading towards you vs rayn and it'd be sad if you caused your own death there, like a certain player in my newbie game....


I'm not commiting suicide, I'm getting angry that such shitty scum read on me based on a read that I find very reasonable and I'm having a hard time believing good players can't possibly see I'm town.

On October 24 2015 00:30 Rels wrote:

Xatalos (1): Chromatically




Tell me more about the "shitty scum" reading you. You obviously have more people in mind, who are your detractors?


I meant "shitty scumreads", not shitty scum reading me.

I think I buy this. Am I crazy?


No you display basic human intelligence.

yay I did it!
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 23 2015 16:04 GMT
#995
Surefire ways to get lynched:

1) Tell marv he cant do it.
Hopeless1der
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October 23 2015 16:06 GMT
#999
Slam, your filter is really focused on rayn. What else you got cooking?
Hopeless1der
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October 23 2015 16:17 GMT
#1013
On October 24 2015 01:10 Alakaslam wrote:
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On October 24 2015 01:04 Hopeless1der wrote:
Surefire ways to get lynched:

1) Tell marv he cant do it.

Sure fire way to disappointment: try to lynch an enigma on day 1.

With regard to your other question, there is irony; Marv missed the fact that I don't much like your posting this game either.

In fact, read my pages. Answer my question so that I can answer yours more fully? Would be interesting



So I assume this is the issue
On October 23 2015 16:08 Alakaslam wrote:
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On October 23 2015 06:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
ritoky, where do you stand on gumshoe?

More of this hopeless?

How is this helping your reads?


ritoky had an early "textbook" mafia read of gumshoe (as per chromatically), gumshoe posted more, I wanted to know where ritoky's read ended up because he hadnt updated it and needed to be prompted a couple times. In general, my reads for those three are gumshoe>chromatically>ritoky (in order of townyness)

Hopeless1der
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October 23 2015 16:28 GMT
#1026
On October 24 2015 01:21 Xatalos wrote:
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On October 24 2015 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 24 2015 01:16 Xatalos wrote:
On October 24 2015 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the record, why Xatalos' read on me is shit and why i think he is scum is this:
I mean.... Your merits this game are defending rayn (who's played exactly according to his scumgame so far, and made many unfathomable logical jumps) based on something that never really happened at the start, and some vague "nice posts" he's made. And attacking Slam for posts that I actually really liked about ritoky/rayn.

This is a complete mischaracterisation of my play. I never ever do this. I never do this as town, i never do this as mafia. I have never changed my read on anyone without a reason or a "reason" (as mafia). I always have a reason for why i post the things i do.

I have clearly explained every single read change i have had in this game (which is basically GlowingBear, Xatalos himself and ritoky). I went onto a long conversation about ritoky earlier, and at that time apparently there was nothing wrong with it for him. But now again it is a reason for scumreading me? I have also explained why i changed my read on GlowingBear, at that time there was nothing wrong with it for him? It should be really easy to see why i think Xatalos is mafia - or at least a bit earlier - why i reconsidered my read on him.

Slam's points on me are literally shit, and as marv pointed out Slam just decided he calls me mafia nad then started quoting my posts and called them scummy. All of his points are unture, what he says i have for example done in the last couple of games -- i have literally did the same thing (which makes me scumread GB too, as he should know Slam's points are shit, yet he doesn't address them -- as i just acted towards GB the same way in the last two games). Somehow Xatalos thinks those points are good? Bullshit. Bull-fucking-shit.

Another thing is he is trying to paint my read on him as OMGUS when there is nothing even close to that. I have actually reasons to think he is scum. He isn't trying to figure out my alignment, and to be honest this is kinda funny because all he says is "he did the exact same thing last time he was mafia and i caught him", funnily enough this is the EXACT case i myself made on rsoultin in that game. He is also not not even re-considering his read in any way when marv, who is the only person who can ever read me correctly all the time, heavily disagrees with his read. Instead he decides that we must BOTH be mafia. I find it almost impossible to believe that's what he actually thinks.

There is basically no way Xatalos thinks i am most likely to flip mafia here. I could understand he thinks i am mafia, but not like this, and not for the reasons he pulls out of his ass. He is basically not a person who "yolo's" a scumread like this without digging further into it. If he did, he would see that:
1) my reads are not actually unexplained, nor are the changes on them, it's really easy to see why i do the stuff i do
2) me acting like "i did as mafia" is a pure mischaracterisation of my play.

The read is wrong and lazy as fuck, and misses all the reasoning for me to do things i do (which btw is there if you read closely).


Well, it is OMGUS. It literally went like "Xatalos is prolly just town" -> "oh wait, he scumreads me?" -> "100% scum" in like... a couple of minutes. Your reads ARE very weird and especially their progression. You've pretty much went against anyone currently "under fire" regardless of your previous stances on them. Whenever thread sentiment turns against someone, you conveniently find some scummy post that you forgot about him earlier and vote for him. The same thing repeated with ritoky, GB and me... Town -> scum because of thread sentiment / OMGUS, not because anything actually changed in reality.

Again, this is just not true.
I decided to look further on GB because of what yamato, marv and Vivax said.
I actually dug myself further into ritoky.
I have thought Slam is mafia all game.

Somehow you are incapable of seeing why i did these things, when it should be very clear from my filter. And that is why i think you are scum. You are just painting it as "unexplained read changes" when it's definitely not.


Well, you just said it like it is... Hard defense -> heavy scumread based on thread sentiment, while finding some sort of justification (a single bad post or something) in their filter. It's just too drastic and the timings are too convenient. Slam has been a PoE read, conveniently always staying in the Poe regardless of all the shifts, and now it's OMGUS.

What do you mean "conveniently". Slam did nothing for a good stretch of time, then spam posted the thread. 80% of which was "hey check out why rayn in scum".
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 26 2015 14:08 GMT
#1984
Sorry for dying over the weekend, I got a new job and everyone insisted on my coming out to celebrate. Getting started on catching up.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 26 2015 16:42 GMT
#2125
im basically never going to vote for Xata or Rayn (maybe rayn in lylo) they're my top town. Loving gumshoe's and BH's recent posting, like chromatically as well. Kind of null about GB, I'd vote him but more on a PoE basis. Honestly dont remember much of VivaxThink there is some good effort to keep things on track from Vivax, though it was pissed away to tell rayn to fuck off basically. Onegu still feels like he's "testing" me so I'm going to let him be for the time being but I really want to OMGUS him. Association to yamato looks shitty too, and yamato has been about as useful as I have this game, except I'm expected to be trash and he's not.

##Vote: Yamato77

also you guys voting rayn while thinking hes town....you're as bad as him for doing that.
Hopeless1der
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October 29 2015 13:44 GMT
#2917
##vote: Xatalos
Placeholder, no one in their right mind will vote him.
Hopeless1der
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United States5836 Posts
October 29 2015 13:50 GMT
#2919
im filtering onegu and gb for the time being since those are the wagons.
Hopeless1der
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October 29 2015 16:29 GMT
#2928
##unvote
##Vote: GlowingBear


On October 30 2015 01:12 gumshoe wrote:
##Vote gb

I dont like the tone of his last posts / : the logic hes proposing is just so bad, paticularly bad considering hes one of the first to jump on your dick if you use "wifom'. I'm not sure a townie wouldn't realize how unconvincing they are with arguments like his.

Agree with this, and onegu doesnt seem as bad as GB after reading through their filters. GB is constantly throwing around "but what about this scummy thing thats just like me", seems like trying to deflect from himself.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 29 2015 17:01 GMT
#2935
I got warned/reminded for not voting yet. The thread gunning for my modkill makes me feel better about my decision.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 31 2015 17:44 GMT
#3482
Be honest, is there really a possibility that at I could convince everyone that I was town?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 02 2015 23:12 GMT
#3705
On November 03 2015 08:08 gumshoe wrote:
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On November 03 2015 07:56 Blazinghand wrote:
btw Vivax moments like that are perfect for Ace Attorney screenshots


I am the only one who gets to decide what is worthy of ace attorney music/screenshots!!!!!!!!!

On a side note I fucked up not posting before the nk / : was over helping a friend prep for an interview.

Also ritoky? RITOKY? thats... an interesting shot... wouldnta guessed that one / :

##vote hopeless

this has to happen, I can rehash my whole case on hopeless voting gb instead of onegu when by his own admission (onegu testing phase was over) he should have totally voted onegu, but none of that matters.

this

Show nested quote +
Be honest, is there really a possibility that at I could convince everyone that I was town?


is basically unforgivable.

and yet i wasnt lynched yesterday. Im honestly confused.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 02 2015 23:14 GMT
#3708
also as to your case, the only reason i legit had to call onegu scum was omgus. GB was scummier to me so i voted him.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 02 2015 23:15 GMT
#3709
On November 03 2015 08:12 Vivax wrote:
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On November 03 2015 08:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:08 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 07:56 Blazinghand wrote:
btw Vivax moments like that are perfect for Ace Attorney screenshots


I am the only one who gets to decide what is worthy of ace attorney music/screenshots!!!!!!!!!

On a side note I fucked up not posting before the nk / : was over helping a friend prep for an interview.

Also ritoky? RITOKY? thats... an interesting shot... wouldnta guessed that one / :

##vote hopeless

this has to happen, I can rehash my whole case on hopeless voting gb instead of onegu when by his own admission (onegu testing phase was over) he should have totally voted onegu, but none of that matters.

this

Be honest, is there really a possibility that at I could convince everyone that I was town?


is basically unforgivable.

and yet i wasnt lynched yesterday. Im honestly confused.


Gum ur pardner?

gum we should concede
Hopeless1der
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November 02 2015 23:23 GMT
#3719
On November 03 2015 08:17 gumshoe wrote:
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On November 03 2015 08:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
also as to your case, the only reason i legit had to call onegu scum was omgus. GB was scummier to me so i voted him.


if im your scum buddy I already know all this no? So stop wasting words : P

i think im due to waste some words, no?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 02 2015 23:24 GMT
#3720
On November 03 2015 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:
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On November 03 2015 08:20 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:15 gumshoe wrote:
Whats more, a random shot onto ritoky is actually a good sign, mafia take crazy risks when they are not content with the state of things. A shot onto me, chrom or bh would really make no difference in todays lynch, if hopeless is town, maf wouldve killed one of us 3 so that we stay the course, by making a questionable shot, they threaten the current status quo.

Thats pretty wifomy logic, but I feel pretty confident about it (bonus points if vivax or hopeless start talking about why the ritoky shot makes them totes town)


I dunno, do you think there's anything that could REALLY cause us not to lynch H1? You and I are both super on lynching H1, I'm not sure leaving us alive would cause us to... not lynch him? I do get what you're saying though in terms of like "an unusual nk means scum is displseased with the current game flow" and agree with that in principle.


nothing should stop the h1 lynch, but that doesn't mean scum ever stop trying XD


yeah h1 needs to die

I almost agree to this considering my play this game. Almost.
Hopeless1der
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United States5836 Posts
November 02 2015 23:24 GMT
#3721
On November 03 2015 08:21 gumshoe wrote:
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On November 03 2015 08:19 Vivax wrote:
Gum you're a sneaky dog, that was unexpected. wpwp

(with backthoughts I might as well just be wrong again)

LIKE, the guy with hopeless is a massive snake of a scum player.


vivax sounds like a dragon name, dragons are kind of snake like : P

gumshoe has an sssssss in it if you try real hard
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 02 2015 23:25 GMT
#3723
On November 03 2015 08:24 gumshoe wrote:
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On November 03 2015 08:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:17 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
also as to your case, the only reason i legit had to call onegu scum was omgus. GB was scummier to me so i voted him.


if im your scum buddy I already know all this no? So stop wasting words : P

i think im due to waste some words, no?


spend em in the qt : P this is our house.

I have a key, I live here too!
Hopeless1der
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November 02 2015 23:29 GMT
#3726
On November 03 2015 08:26 gumshoe wrote:
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On November 03 2015 08:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:24 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:17 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
also as to your case, the only reason i legit had to call onegu scum was omgus. GB was scummier to me so i voted him.


if im your scum buddy I already know all this no? So stop wasting words : P

i think im due to waste some words, no?


spend em in the qt : P this is our house.

I have a key, I live here too!


fine but your being evicted in 2 days / : make sure your stuff is together by then.

I'll start packing my things
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 03 2015 00:34 GMT
#3728
On November 03 2015 08:36 gumshoe wrote:
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On November 03 2015 08:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:26 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:24 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:17 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
also as to your case, the only reason i legit had to call onegu scum was omgus. GB was scummier to me so i voted him.


if im your scum buddy I already know all this no? So stop wasting words : P

i think im due to waste some words, no?


spend em in the qt : P this is our house.

I have a key, I live here too!


fine but your being evicted in 2 days / : make sure your stuff is together by then.

I'll start packing my things


look..... dont get me wrong, its not you man, its us, we just really really prefer vanilla T_T

racists.

Gumshoe, what happens if I'm town?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 03 2015 01:09 GMT
#3731
On November 03 2015 09:49 gumshoe wrote:
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On November 03 2015 09:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:36 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:26 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:24 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:17 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
also as to your case, the only reason i legit had to call onegu scum was omgus. GB was scummier to me so i voted him.


if im your scum buddy I already know all this no? So stop wasting words : P

i think im due to waste some words, no?


spend em in the qt : P this is our house.

I have a key, I live here too!


fine but your being evicted in 2 days / : make sure your stuff is together by then.

I'll start packing my things


look..... dont get me wrong, its not you man, its us, we just really really prefer vanilla T_T

racists.

Gumshoe, what happens if I'm town?


Then you failed us and we lose ) : for which you should feel really really bad t-t

so then you understand the gravity of the situation. Why did you let me live yesterday?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 03 2015 13:28 GMT
#3734
On November 03 2015 11:07 gumshoe wrote:
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On November 03 2015 10:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 09:49 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 09:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:36 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:26 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:24 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
[quote]
i think im due to waste some words, no?


spend em in the qt : P this is our house.

I have a key, I live here too!


fine but your being evicted in 2 days / : make sure your stuff is together by then.

I'll start packing my things


look..... dont get me wrong, its not you man, its us, we just really really prefer vanilla T_T

racists.

Gumshoe, what happens if I'm town?


Then you failed us and we lose ) : for which you should feel really really bad t-t

so then you understand the gravity of the situation. Why did you let me live yesterday?


I don't magically decide who town lynches, I pushed for you over gb all day yesterday(if you were actually reading you would know that), but bh and chrom weren't having it, I enjoy playing with them and I know they're town, so wasn't exactly eager to shout them into submission when I might have still been wrong about gb.

Don't foist your predicament off onto me man : P if this is a mislynch it is utterly and completely your fault. But you are scum so don't worry about it too much / : just try a little harder next time k?

If this is a mislynch, it is not 100% my fault. I'll take like 90% of the blame. But here, you want us to lose, and I checked, I'm allowed to help.
##Vote: Hopeless1der
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 03 2015 15:50 GMT
#3737
On November 04 2015 00:05 gumshoe wrote:
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On November 03 2015 22:28 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 11:07 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 10:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 09:49 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 09:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:36 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:26 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
[quote]
I have a key, I live here too!


fine but your being evicted in 2 days / : make sure your stuff is together by then.

I'll start packing my things


look..... dont get me wrong, its not you man, its us, we just really really prefer vanilla T_T

racists.

Gumshoe, what happens if I'm town?


Then you failed us and we lose ) : for which you should feel really really bad t-t

so then you understand the gravity of the situation. Why did you let me live yesterday?


I don't magically decide who town lynches, I pushed for you over gb all day yesterday(if you were actually reading you would know that), but bh and chrom weren't having it, I enjoy playing with them and I know they're town, so wasn't exactly eager to shout them into submission when I might have still been wrong about gb.

Don't foist your predicament off onto me man : P if this is a mislynch it is utterly and completely your fault. But you are scum so don't worry about it too much / : just try a little harder next time k?

If this is a mislynch, it is not 100% my fault. I'll take like 90% of the blame. But here, you want us to lose, and I checked, I'm allowed to help.
##Vote: Hopeless1der


If you are town you've taken things out of my hands / : by playing the way you have I probably couldn't defend you now even if I wanted too. Which I don't, cause you scum

Thats the thing, everyone has called me scum so why wasnt I even remotely close to dying yesterday? I'm the lynchbaitiest lynchbait there is, especially this game. I havent really seen any defense of me since day 1. I mean if you're ready to afk and ignore me, do it. I wont blame you, everyone else has.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 03 2015 18:13 GMT
#3739
On November 04 2015 01:01 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 00:50 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 04 2015 00:05 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 22:28 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 11:07 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 10:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 09:49 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 09:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:36 gumshoe wrote:
On November 03 2015 08:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
[quote]
I'll start packing my things


look..... dont get me wrong, its not you man, its us, we just really really prefer vanilla T_T

racists.

Gumshoe, what happens if I'm town?


Then you failed us and we lose ) : for which you should feel really really bad t-t

so then you understand the gravity of the situation. Why did you let me live yesterday?


I don't magically decide who town lynches, I pushed for you over gb all day yesterday(if you were actually reading you would know that), but bh and chrom weren't having it, I enjoy playing with them and I know they're town, so wasn't exactly eager to shout them into submission when I might have still been wrong about gb.

Don't foist your predicament off onto me man : P if this is a mislynch it is utterly and completely your fault. But you are scum so don't worry about it too much / : just try a little harder next time k?

If this is a mislynch, it is not 100% my fault. I'll take like 90% of the blame. But here, you want us to lose, and I checked, I'm allowed to help.
##Vote: Hopeless1der


If you are town you've taken things out of my hands / : by playing the way you have I probably couldn't defend you now even if I wanted too. Which I don't, cause you scum

Thats the thing, everyone has called me scum so why wasnt I even remotely close to dying yesterday? I'm the lynchbaitiest lynchbait there is, especially this game. I havent really seen any defense of me since day 1. I mean if you're ready to afk and ignore me, do it. I wont blame you, everyone else has.


Nah I'll talk : D the reason was we basically deduced that given the play of everyone here, scum had to be among three people, which meant we could lynch those three in any order. Gb took priority because he was actively pissing people off in thread, basically people really wanted him gone/ were sure he was scum, as opposed to you who was already gone period : P

But I apologize for not killing you yesterday hopeless ) : the townies had a vendetta and scum went along with' it's that's why you didn't die, but don't worry, we'll fix it today : D

and that doesnt seem awfully convenient?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 07 2015 22:06 GMT
#3854
On November 08 2015 07:05 iamperfection wrote:
bh's back is probably sore from carrying his team to victory.

seriously, BH thanks for the carry
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