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I think I saw rayn explode as scum once though, and he was Vig shot N1 as scum. marv was his teammate and gave up after that. I think rayn was trying to emulate his EMO town meta there, so it's possible the same is happening here... Then again, I agree that antagonizing the host isn't really a reasonable scum play in any form (not reasonable as either alignment, but less so as scum when you're responsible to your team). | ||
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ritoky you don't think Onegu is a suspect? I think he looks worse than Hopeless at least, and probably worse than yamato.... | ||
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- GB: completely static scumread on Vivax that's not affected by anything happening in the thread, and I actually noticed that marv disproved his reasoning during D1 (by showing that Vivax had made overly confident reads before) but that didn't affect anything... it just does indeed feel like he picked someone to scumread and continued calling him scum no matter what... + overall low effort and disinterest towards anything happening in the game... some of the nice posts he's made can't really absolve him at this point - yamato: playing according to his scum meta (inactive, disinterested) - there's one town game where he was inactive as well, but mostly he's been relatively active and a good asset as town, there's nothing like that to be seen here.... - Onegu: gave a high townread for rayn, voted for him over his nullread at deadline when the lynch was still completely undecided.... just this alone I think is impossible for town, he did make an "RNG sheep" vote in a previous game but I just can't accept he would choose to vote for his (supposed) highest townread based on some meta-joke... it just shows that he has zero interest towards solving the game or doing anything... and he has refused to answer several questions from different players that probed into his nonsensical arguments over the game - rayn: disinterested towards the lynch result of D1 (basically sheeping/OMGUSing away to whatever he could), then just started spamming/lurking and caring even less about scumhunting than before So yeah, I'm basically content if any of these players ends up getting lynched right now.... It looks like we still have 3 mislynches even, so I doubt we can lose if we start by cleaning up this pile of scummy. | ||
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I'd perhaps say that it should be Onegu...... Hm. rayn and GB both have something in their favor at least, and yamato does have one game where he's been equally inactive/disinterested as town. | ||
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On October 26 2015 08:00 GlowingBear wrote: marv never disproved anything, marv disagreed with me, which is different. And my read on Vivax progressed as he came back to the thread. It's all in my filter. And no, I'm not mafia. Have you ever considered him to be town after the first minute...? I guess you did offer alternative lynches at times, like rayn. I'd really like to hear your overall reads right now. | ||
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On October 26 2015 08:03 GlowingBear wrote: Let me ask you something, Xatalos. Will a tunneled townie forget about his scumread one day later? Because Vivax called Yamato scum for being inactive (in less than 24 hours in the game). When yamato turned against me, Vivax gave him a very weird townread (it felt like a joke, Vivax said it was an actual townread). Yamato is inactive now. Vivax never talks about him anymore. He only supports my lynch when people talk about it. I can never see a world where Vivax isn't scum here. Never. Especially now that yamato's inactivity IS indeed scummy, and he is doing nothing, and NOW he's fitting his scum meta. Tbh Vivax did suggest yamato as a lynch today. | ||
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- Onegu: gave a high townread for rayn, voted for him over his nullread at deadline when the lynch was still completely undecided.... just this alone I think is impossible for town, he did make an "RNG sheep" vote in a previous game but I just can't accept he would choose to vote for his (supposed) highest townread based on some meta-joke... it just shows that he has zero interest towards solving the game or doing anything... and he has refused to answer several questions from different players that probed into his nonsensical arguments over the game He simply doesn't care about catching scum, at all. And he's contradicting his own reads and offering messed up arguments that he can't answer for when probed. LYNCH ONEGU! I think I'd like to give rayn and GB another day, perhaps. yamato seems like a fine lynch too. | ||
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On October 26 2015 08:15 GlowingBear wrote: Yes, I've tried to read him coming from a townie perspective. He could be town? Yes, but I'm fairly certain he isn't. I have you as town for filter length and activity, you seem to care about the game which is the towniest trait one can have right now. I have chromatically as town, still. I find hard to believe any scum would put so much effort into writing a scum case on you and me, reading filters and shit. I think Rayn can be mafia but his rage quit is giving me pause. Nonetheless, his flip on me + slam's read on him all points out to him being mafia. I don't trust his rage on slam very much because, well, he knows how slam plays and slam was actually being productive - but productive against Rayn. I am very suspicious of Onegu. I will always think he is a good lynch. Hopeless has some townie posts but some of them are too similar to Avogadro's mini mafia. I think gumshoe might be town just because he is defending me. I can't see mafia motivation behind defending me. Now that yamato is extremely unproductive I can see him being scum. As I said, yamato is one of the players that we can have better reads on later days. And here we are. I don't know what to do with BH. Some of his posts seems very townie, others seems like fluff. I particularly dislike his "eternal dining" posts. On the other hand, I think the has being thinking about the game critically, so he is probably town. I don't know if I forgot someone. Hm... ritoky?  In any case, seems decent enough. | ||
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On October 26 2015 08:25 Chromatically wrote: I definitely don't disagree with anything you've said here and I am in favor of an Onegu lynch. Sadly, "not caring about catching scum" doesn't only apply to him this game, it easily applies to GB, Hopeless, yamato at least. The one point "in favor" of him compared to GB in my opinion is that he usually (to my knowledge, haven't checked very much) plays like this, with extreme low effort. There's still some time in the day though so we can see what happens, it's possible I decide that Onegu is a better lynch later depending on how things go. Having GB and Onegu as the wagons is excellent though. Hm, I think Onegu/yamato seems better.... I think there's actually a chance GB is town... | ||
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On October 26 2015 08:35 gumshoe wrote: The choice should definitely be Yamato and Onegu, but the difference between them was best put by Marv. people expect things of Yamato, whereas this game is par for the course with Onegu / : both are fine lynches but the edge should definitely go to the guy who if scum, was playing based off a scum agenda and was actually trying somewhat. Hm... Well I'm not really opposed to consolidating on yamato. Right now I just think there's slightly more reason to lynch Onegu since he's done so many things unexplainable as town. | ||
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On October 26 2015 08:52 Chromatically wrote: Hmm. I think the meta points are much stronger than any bits of lightly town moments that can be found in his filter. Honestly after playing as mafia in a few games I feel like making posts that sound vaguely townie as mafia isn't that hard. I guess that depends on what kind of stuff specifically you're talking about though. Mainly referring to his meta defense of me, genuine-feeling rant about being voted for and going after rayn instead of Slam in that situation.... I guess none of those are really impossible from scum, it's just that each thing felt more likely to come from town. | ||
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On October 26 2015 08:54 gumshoe wrote: I know XD I blurred out GB's name. Yamato is a very experienced player, even when lurking you can see his usefulness. Theres none of that this game, all his actions have been a detriment to town. Onegu is a shit poster troll with a place in callers pantheon. Theres really no comparison between them. Also do you really think Gb is scum with Yamato? If not (which is what you should think, cause thinking otherwise would be derp) then just vote Yamato, he is far sketchier then Gb XD and if he flips scum you can easily rule out Gb as a suspect. This lynch is basically as good as lynching Gb, except we get to keep Gb and lynch scum : D haha.... Take an upvote for the funny post I keep wondering if this is really the same gumshoe I played with in a couple of games before. I don't think I've ever seen you even make a single good post before, and this game is filled with good posts from you. I'm almost ready to quit Mafia if gumshoe is scum in this game. That's how surprised I'd be. I'll leave my vote on Onegu for now, but if it comes down to it, I'll join the yamato wagon. | ||
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On October 26 2015 09:01 Chromatically wrote: I love calling people town for good reasons as mafia lol, it makes me feel honest because I don't have to lie to everyone about what I think for once. Rant thing, okay. What do you mean by going after rayn instead of Slam? This post where he votes rayn? Ah yeah, I mean, he went directly against rayn (who was losing steam and a tougher opponent than Slam) instead of just voting for Slam or going AFK or something. In the worst case, that could have led to him being lynched... If marv jumped on that vote switch etc. | ||
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I doubt yamato will flip town and it's especially interesting to note that yeah, yamato/GB hardly makes sense... Meaning that lynching one of them would make sense here, and I think yamato is the better choice. | ||
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