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Since I annoy people, I'll try to play without talking about shit and not doing crazy stuff | ||
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On October 07 2015 11:32 Alakaslam wrote: 쏜 다 우ㅐ 옵 추파시 핫유 무시 Ssoñ da way ob chu pa si hass yu moo si Son, the way of the CHUPAZI has you, moosy. Slam, every time I see you around here I thank the skies that you exist | ||
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On October 09 2015 16:54 Koshi wrote: Totes ready. I love this pool in which most people don't know me. I can play chill then. Maybe even get lynched. Who knows? Hi, I know you  | ||
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On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote: Town. Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it. If nobody lies I will use spidersenses. 4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke. If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke. There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player. So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense. tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi. tldr2: Read tldr 1 You make things easier. ##vote: Koshi | ||
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On October 13 2015 10:56 Tictock wrote: I assume you are referring to ![[image loading]](http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/15/152870/2684749-1410539-thrall.jpg) In which case you used the correct color. But since you didn't capitalize you could also mean one of these... Or your telling us you are a slave or surf and have no social standing what-so-ever. In which case I can't be seen talking to you. Tic tock! The first one. But awesome analysis. 10/10. | ||
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On October 13 2015 11:59 Sylencia wrote: I believe he's legitimately just bitching about how any good play will be rewarded with almost guaranteed death. With so many anti-town roles there isn't much sense in sticking your neck out so much as an anti-town member. /naivethoughts Wait so you think he is anti town? | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:35 Xatalos wrote: At some point in time I think Koshi was a very calm and analytical player. Dunno what happened since then, but something must have broken him lol I've never seen him calm | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:41 Xatalos wrote: I'll reserve my judgment until later since last time I played with her she was like the towniest player in the game (tone/attitude-wise) but was scum after all :D Cool | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:56 Rels wrote: GB almost used the same opening last game: It was actually his second post. So this might indicate he's not-town replicating something he did as town last game. After all, if he's called out on that, he can always says "I did that to fish for reactions!" Will see if he ever: - did the same opening two times in a row as town, or - did the same opening as mafia than the last time he was town Any player who has already played with me before knows I do this almost every time regardless of alignment | ||
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On October 13 2015 21:43 Rels wrote: Slight not-town lean. I don't like him saying "if I try hard and get a mafia / 3P lynched I'll bite a bullet", completely forgetting we have two medics. At this point, you would prefer to lynch tic tock over him? | ||
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Moosy stands to me like town. I think uninterested play is very suicidal for mafia. There is no mafia motivation to keep posting like he is. Here is the best example where I don't see mafia motivation behind a post: On October 13 2015 23:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: I kind of like how I'm doing nothing and yet I'm still alive. Also here: + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2015 08:49 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm kind of wondering if CopCake still hates me. o-o I hope she doesn't. Same with Slam, but in a smaller degree. The fact that he states he is bored makes me think he is excited to catch mafia. I mean, there was no need to rant like in here + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2015 11:34 Alakaslam wrote: What a dead thread! Guess I will go really read and reread Koshi's dramas I dislike Cake for the unexplained townreads. I dislike Sylencia for a couple of posts. This one seems so forced + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2015 14:40 Sylencia wrote: The more haikus made The more I want to kill you JK, good gimmick Also CopCake, how does that 1 line make Superbia anti-town? The joke is so off. The focused question is also so off. She gave a lot of reads, why is he focusing only on Superbia? (I'm on page 7 and cba to keep reading, gonna do that later again) | ||
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Just thought about something. Koshi is back to null. Don't ask me what it is. | ||
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On October 14 2015 01:59 Alakaslam wrote: GB man of skill why are the foolish lynching ticktock? I fail to comprehend the gibbering I don't know, I must say I can get behind the arguments people are bringing against him. The fact his wagon stacked up quickly looks suspicious to be, tho | ||
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Reasonable arguments can be brought against any player. With so little information in thread, a wagon being formed that fast is weird. | ||
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On October 14 2015 02:13 Koshi wrote: No seriously. He can get behind the wagon on TT except for the fact that there are already 2 people on the wagon, who actually most likely believed the same thing GB believed but didn't have the hesitance of somebody already being on the wagon. Then GB proceeds to call these 2 people suspicious. ![[image loading]](http://media.giphy.com/media/5aLrlDiJPMPFS/giphy.gif) I thought I saw 3 votes on him? I don't know who are voting him, I just thought his wagon being formed fast is suspicious. I've already said who I dislike at least until page 7. The others I've just skimmed. | ||
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On October 14 2015 02:17 Koshi wrote: 3 votes on a person is suspicious? When the arguments against this person are arguments you can get behind? When no other wagons are being pushed? SURE GB. SURE. I am afk till D2. This is pointless. I understand what you're saying and yes, you are right. But my guts says it is suspicious. | ||
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On October 14 2015 06:30 Koshi wrote: ##Vote MoosyDoosy Could vote GB as well. Too dumb and wants to lynch me. Koshi what hapoened to you, man? | ||
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On October 14 2015 06:33 Koshi wrote: Seriously. I still cannot phantom GB called it suspicious that 3 people voted for 1 guy while he agreed with the reasoning and would consider voting the guy himself. In a game with 13 people with mafia team that consists of 2 people. Mind blowing. Sorry, scum sums up to four people, I called suspicious that the wagon was forming fast AND I've already explained WHO I dislike and you don't bother commenting it. | ||
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On October 14 2015 06:53 Alakaslam wrote: Although this is good advice this is scummy to say; it is a pretty ingenious way to bluefish. But there is wifom I'm really concerned that people are mistaking what they should be doing here. | ||
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On October 14 2015 08:13 MoosyDoosy wrote: okie I am back and around. As a note I refuse to participate in any lynch on my Chupazi master Alakaslam unless there is glaring evidence he is not town. mmm...down to work. Basically people I don't like this far. gobbledygook - terrible posts so far Superbia - acting nothing like town and doing nothing for the thread Koshi - there’s no reason to make a long post about how town will kill themselves. That’s just drawing way way too much attention to himself. I don’t think he’s scum so…fanatic groupie? maybe. GlowingBear - I might have to revisit this. Rels - terrible case on TicTock and terrible conclusions that he’s drawing. deconduo - the way he got his reads was so bad it was o-o CopCake - eh idk. she had some good thoughts but if she continues to not care then that’s a super scum read. Ok this is one of the worst posts so far and I will completely flip my read on you ##Unvote ##Vote: MoosyDoosy You can't possibly believe in ANYTHING you're saying here. You don't like me but you need to revisit me. Ok but why you don't like me? Why does gobble looks terrible? Your conclusion on Koshi is the worst possible. Fanatic groupie? What?? Why is the case on tic tock horrible? What was bad on the way deconduo got reads? And the best one: CAKE HAS UNEXPLAINED READS. HOW THE HELL DOES SHE HAD GOOD THOUGHTS???? | ||
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On October 14 2015 08:38 Koshi wrote: I am pleasantly surprised by that post GB. I was thinking you would say something like "too scummy to be scum" " attacks everybody so not mafia" etc etc. He either isn't interested in the game so he just hangs around or he reads the game and give solid insights. He can't try to do both. He basically made a list with no reasoning whatsoever. All his reads looks fabricated. I can see people being too scum to be scum but there are limits | ||
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On October 14 2015 08:50 Koshi wrote: 3p will for example scumhunt to not get lynched but will generally not be the most vocal scumhunter because he fears a bullet from mafia. But in theory he could do anything. His wincon is surviving. It's not. Phone isn't letting me quote the OP but check it out. | ||
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On October 14 2015 08:53 Koshi wrote: They play different. TMI is a powerful thing. Sorry, what is TMI? Too much insight? | ||
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On October 14 2015 08:57 Koshi wrote: yeah. True. So they will probably protect each other. w.e This game is truly wtf. 4 mafia with 2 kp Why the fuck bother. Mechanics are actually pretty neat. Read the roles and you'll see the clusterfuck night kills will be. To be honest roles and mechanics can cause different behaviours that we are used to | ||
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On October 14 2015 08:17 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm just going to vote for Superbia for now. There are reasons that Koshi and gobbledygook CAN be town but Superbia is def scum right now. I think GB + CC + Slam should already realize how different his play is. I will relook into Rels if it becomes necessary. Also Rels, your case is terrible because A. you used meta and tone when you know you're terrible at meta and tone and you played only 1 game with him when I played like 3 or something close to that. B. also, the only thing that TicTock can be scumread for right now is that he was fence sitting but that's super weak because it was in the first half of D1 so that's a terrible reason as well. tl;dr your case is bad and TicTock looks town. So change your vote. oh yeah and before I forget I have a weird itch on Xata which I'll go over later. I think it had something to do with townreading me and something else in conjunction to make magical baby combinations. What do you think of this post? | ||
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On October 14 2015 08:59 Koshi wrote: Moosy Sylencia Superbia These 3. Good start to lynch and CPR. You think cop cake is town? | ||
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On October 14 2015 09:02 Koshi wrote: Nope. The game is not rewarding at all for town. While mafia and 3p only get rewarded if they survive and never punished for following their wincon. If town lynches anti town each day they can still lose. CPR is a shitty role, should have been a cop that couldn't be protected by the town medic. I wouldn't call a vigilante with unlimited bullets that can kill scum/save a townie on LYLO a bad role. | ||
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What makes you think so? I see her as likely scum | ||
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On October 14 2015 09:42 Koshi wrote: It's not even pretending. Their actual goal during dayphase is to lynch anti town. The fact that they need to make a fake "you are mafia" case on somebody they know isn't is completely removed. Literally 13 people in this thread are looking for people who are not town. 4 people in this thread know the alignment of 1 other guy they can ignore for the most part. Koshi, but if you're scum you know you must survive and if you drive a lynch on someone who is an opposing faction you might get shot at night. So what do you do? You just lay back and vote with thread sentiment. This is how scum hunting in this game differs from other games. And this is exactly what you wanted to do. Thus, my vote on you. I think you're complaining too much about the setup without actually thinking about it. Makes me wonder if you're not simply scum trying to waste discussion or just douchebag town | ||
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On October 13 2015 19:24 Xatalos wrote: Btw if you want to see the up-to-date votecount then it's here at all times: https://mafia-votecount.herokuapp.com/#495390-crossfire-mafia I truly hope the VT claims are from anti-town parties / blues since otherwise it's just, frankly, playing against your win condition. It'd be preferable if nobody claimed roles D1 or even after that without good reason. This felt a bit wrong to me. What I mean is the fact that Koshi was primarily concerned about his own life and while saying that town's position is bad (which should lead to the conclusion that it's time to play well), he concludes that he's going to lurk.. Which left me with the feeling that rather than having good lynches, he just wanted to avoid getting shot. The strongest motivation for that would be if he's anti-town. It's still possible that he's blue or something, but if that's the case, then it's pretty bad play to announce your survival instinct so clearly (making it less likely that you're a VT). Also Koshi: I don't agree that town is underpowered. The anti-towns can kill each other as well, and we have 2 (kind of) Medics in the game. Well, it is a bit random that way. BWAHAHA I just got back to page 7 to read stuff with more focus and saw this. So Xata already caught on that and said it out loud. LOL. | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:15 Superbia wrote: Actually not going to post my post. Had a nice little theory written up about how I think both mafia and third party will play this game. Going to post it later (mayb n1) after people have "played". ;p This makes me think Superbia is town | ||
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On October 14 2015 10:08 Sylencia wrote: Also pretty sure unless town plays catastrophically bad, we have a pretty good shot of winning considering 3p is almost half a team, mafia team is stronger but is balanced by only having 2 people and in addition maf/3p can end up killing each other anyways. If the parity cop miraculously survives to D3 then that single comparison check should be good enough to carry us through the rest of the game. tl;dr 9:2:2 is still fine even if it goes down to like 3:2:2 w/ 1+ power role after 2 days This also makes me think you're town. I don't know if I'm happy today but I'm having too many lean townreads on day1. Which marv and JAT hates. But I am. | ||
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On October 14 2015 10:13 MoosyDoosy wrote: Read my "terrible" list post you dumb bear. ? | ||
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Superbia Alakaslam Xatalos Tictock ~null~ Sylencia Koshi Rels Onegu deconduo ~scum (includes 3p)~ CopCake gobbledydook MoosyDoosy This is somewhat where I'm at. For some reason I feel my reads are pretty shit, tho. | ||
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On October 14 2015 10:29 MoosyDoosy wrote: -sighs- Koshi trying to act like super townie and dumbing down town's chances and showing how hopeless it is for town draws so much attention to himself to the extent where I don't think he can be town. The closest reason I can think of for him to be doing this is if he has an anti-KP role or if he's a Fanatic Groupie who I believe can't die. (Or is it that they only don't die to lynches? I'm not too sure) Either way, I thought it was really weird for Koshi to crash into the gates yelling that town has no chance and causing such a ruckus. Fanatic Groupie just can keep voting after they die. It amazes me that you call him a role you don't know what it is. + Show Spoiler + exactly what I did on Assassination but shhhh Ok, I don't like his attitude regarding this but you must understand that no scum wants to draw attention even if they can vote after they die (well, if you have the groupie's alignment, it's easier to find out who his partner is, so why risk dying anyway?). You can't see why town would do that? Ok. But I can't see why mafia would do that either. Unless it's a stupid mafia. And I don't think Koshi is stupid. Care to explain the other reads on your list post? | ||
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On October 14 2015 10:38 MoosyDoosy wrote: GB, I think you should find it stranger if I actually know what a role does lol. I didn’t even know what Town Roleblocker did in our last game and I was the role. Yeah, it's amazing LOL you should read the OP more closely. This is not influencing my read on you, tho. I know you could make this as both alignments. | ||
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On October 14 2015 10:41 CopCake wrote: I love how GB is not fighting me. YOU ARE NOT TOWN BABE It's a waste of time if you don't bring real reasons to scum read me | ||
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On October 14 2015 08:30 GlowingBear wrote: Ok this is one of the worst posts so far and I will completely flip my read on you ##Unvote ##Vote: MoosyDoosy You can't possibly believe in ANYTHING you're saying here. You don't like me but you need to revisit me. Ok but why you don't like me? Why does gobble looks terrible? Your conclusion on Koshi is the worst possible. Fanatic groupie? What?? Why is the case on tic tock horrible? What was bad on the way deconduo got reads? And the best one: CAKE HAS UNEXPLAINED READS. HOW THE HELL DOES SHE HAD GOOD THOUGHTS???? Basically, answer all these questions | ||
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On October 14 2015 03:45 CopCake wrote: Rels and GB being like I suspect GB but I still answer glowing bear questions. NO FUCKING WAY, you two are also mafia, take back my GB townread. You're calling me mafia off of an unflipped association. More than that, instead of going after the root of your association, you're going against the consequential read. I can't take this seriously | ||
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On October 14 2015 10:52 CopCake wrote: what unflipped association? I don't get it pls elaborate. You think person A is mafia Person A says something that implicates person B By association, you think that makes B is mafia. Not because B is scummy, but because you think A said something that implicates B. Unflipped means you don't know the guy's alignment yet. So you base a second scumread out of an association when you don't even know if your root suspicion is true. In this case, you think RELS is mafia and for something he said I am mafia too. What's worse is that you're not even going against your main scum read (root of your suspicions on me), but against someone that is only mafia if your root is mafia. If you were town, the most logical way would be going against rels. | ||
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On October 14 2015 10:54 CopCake wrote: Exactly right now you are not paying attention miau. You said miau. Like a cat. I... Like it. | ||
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On October 14 2015 10:58 MoosyDoosy wrote: For ultimate tl;dr, the way Rels made his case on TicTock is shit and the way Superbia is acting is completely different from his town game. CopCake bb, can you back off from GB for a moment and look at Superbia? He’s definitely acting different from our past game. Same for you GB but you don’t get called bb. I think I've seen Superbia disinterested in the game before and honestly him saying that he just thought about how scum would play this game and that he would wait to talk about it seemed like really coming from a town who is thinking critically about the game. | ||
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On October 14 2015 10:58 CopCake wrote: you think rels is town tho. that makes you mafia. ![[image loading]](http://38.media.tumblr.com/d6ff37273ecfcff430ed69f342d0153c/tumblr_njkkmoS8t41tq4of6o1_500.gif) | ||
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On October 14 2015 11:05 CopCake wrote: why the change of hear GB? The what? | ||
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On October 14 2015 11:10 CopCake wrote: you think i am town now, no? No, I just liked the meow | ||
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On October 14 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote: He either isn't interested in the game so he just hangs around or he reads the game and give solid insights. He can't try to do both. He basically made a list with no reasoning whatsoever. All his reads looks fabricated. I can see people being too scum to be scum but there are limits | ||
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##Vote: CopCake | ||
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On October 14 2015 21:45 MoosyDoosy wrote: I really really want to be. Also with you. We should totally make rayn give us a game where we're all scum again. This time I prmise not to double bus. maybe.~~ Hahahaha Vote cake. | ||
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She scum reads Rels for no good reason, proceeds to scum read me with the basis on an unflipped association with Rels, then forgets Rels and push me instead of, you know, going against her main scum read (which, under her logic, his flip would confirm my alignment, and not the opposite). I see no townie following this logic | ||
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She isn't being one here. | ||
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On October 14 2015 23:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: The thing that all of you seem to have difficulty understanding - is that there are 3 factions here. So using standard lists like narrowing it down to a few scum is useless. What you have to do - is find other people not in your faction and lynch them. There's no point in lists saying these people are Mafia because there is 3rd party here. Night will be interesting but it unfortunately looks like I won't be around for it. The thing is that I'm plenty sure that Superbia isn't town. And everyone that I've listed otherwise is probably 3rd party or Mafia. That's how I've been formulating my reads. I listed a bunch of people I didn't like because this isn't a 3 man team we have to kill, it's two different teams. On that note, the reason why I've been buddying with a bunch of different people is because they're useful even if they're not town with me. Even if we convince 3p to kill Mafia or Mafia to kill 3p it's still a gain for town. This is the correct mindset to have. Which is why it's infinitely worse for those people who are trying to treat this like your classic game and try to act as townie as possible with standard lists (Superbia). Moosy, actually, there isn't a very different way to approach this game. Simply consider mafia and third Party as one big anti-town group (namely: scum) and go against who is acting that way. The only difference between normal games is that mafia and 3p are afraid of being shot at night so they mostly will never commit themselves to drive lynches (if they go against a player who is in other anti town faction they will die at night). | ||
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On October 14 2015 22:15 GlowingBear wrote: Everyone NOT scum reading cop cake, please explain so. She scum reads Rels for no good reason, proceeds to scum read me with the basis on an unflipped association with Rels, then forgets Rels and push me instead of, you know, going against her main scum read (which, under her logic, his flip would confirm my alignment, and not the opposite). I see no townie following this logic Again Especially you slam | ||
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Slam and Koshi, why aren't you voting cake? | ||
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If you guys move your votes off of CopCake I will heartlessly torture baby walruses | ||
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On December 22 2014 11:21 GlowingBear wrote: So, if we talk about town Xatalos, we are mostly talking about an absurd filter length. But more than filter length, Xatalos is a guy who keeps his thoughts in the thread, not in his mind, and is constantly trying to solve the game. I've picked up a game where we played together, it was Guilty Mini Mafia. This is a post he had on his second page of filter: + Show Spoiler + On August 22 2014 19:17 Xatalos wrote: Damdred -1 Pretty forgettable posts so far instead of awkward like last time.... scum(my)? raynpelikoneet -1 Robik made a funny point about the way how rayn would have stayed up as town (and he even said that he would stay for the deadline too??) haha - started really aggressive after that, nothing really special to say about that, just a bit of an uncomfortable feeling with the not posting at night despite apparently staying up around the deadline... and somehow his reads feel a bit too certain/forced? let's just say null with some concern for now Hapahauli 0 justanothertownie 0 Onegu 0 VayneAuthority 0 IAmRobik 1 Casually townreading people etc. just feels a bit towny, probably KelsierSC 1 "tryhardish" opening post that is actually fluff - and the theme continues.... :/ ugh so awkward, but also confrontational, so maybe just awkwardly tryhard? - really eager to lynch "useless" people ugh..? what is this... well continues to antagonize people so prolly town maybe? dunno... well seems so tryhard that I guess town maybe yamato77 1 said nothing noteworthy yet - well started making some jokey posts so town? turtlevine 2 obvious smurf... pretty funny/constructive opening post, townish feels I guess GlowingBear 4 a LOT less awkward than in the Arnie game IMO, so town? yeah seems pretty natural at posting overall, and constructive, so towntown WaveOfShadow 4 Reveals willingly which players he's confident in reading and responds to Kelsier in a pretty casual/townish(?) way - really casual posting style so town lean for now You see, he is someone who has reads on a lot of people and contributes with discussion by exteriorising them. More than that, he takes original stances on people. Here is another post by Xatalos on day 1: + Show Spoiler + On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote: KSC - yeah probably town, really feels like he believes his own ideas and pushes them strongly without care for how he's viewed as a result jat - no idea, how do you townread him so strongly? he had a humongous filter as scum earlier so not activity... and he immediately jumped to discredit me without calling me scum when you called me scum... I just can't feel the strong townread so help me here Robik - not as sure as last game but yeah leaning town for being pretty active and posting stuff you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you WOS - my earlier townread on him was a bit faulty so I don't really anyhow heavily townread him anymore, why is he scum though? GB - I don't necessarily think he's town anymore, his weird connection read on me+WOS, curiousness about someone townreading him, and overall awkward posts lately don't look good... could be scum I guess You see, he is already giving reads on a lot of people. But more than this: he is contributing without being asked to contribute. Take a look at the nested quote. Rayn isn't directing a question towards Xatalos. Xatalos is posting this because he wanted to contribute, he wanted to discuss his reads. I'll go ahead into later days to show you that he keeps the "solving the game" stance throughout the whole thread: + Show Spoiler + On August 27 2014 01:15 Xatalos wrote: Still weird that he refused to vote for Robik when 1) he claimed to follow jat's lead and jat voted for Robik 2) he didn't have any real opinion of Robik (except "Robik being Robik") and didn't exactly townread me, but agreed with me a lot and didn't seem to at least suspect me. + Show Spoiler + On August 26 2014 02:17 Xatalos wrote: Actually I just had a thought. In the Arnie game Damdred constantly asked me these little questions to share my reads more / make me more readable. Damdred's play here reminds me a lot of that. So yeah, I don't want to lynch Damdred today. + Show Spoiler + On August 26 2014 02:50 Xatalos wrote: Here are my "condensed" reads >.> VayneAuthority -2 not really a fan of his posts so far, I think someone said that he's pretty serious as scum and trolly as town? serious so far... seems to focus only on survival + made a rather dubious roleclaim claimed JOAT early on D2 "to survive" Onegu -1 AFK and still catching up :/ - entered the game constructively and tried to figure out the game, probably town... Hapa made good points about him being reckless to push rayn as scum + showing suspicion towards a Mason claim haha - well hasn't done much lately so dropped points - rayn flipping town puts him into worse light especially since he just threw his vote on rayn and disappeared Damdred 1 Pretty forgettable posts so far instead of awkward like last time.... scum(my)? - actually his more recent posts mirror my thoughts so town? - rayn made a decent(ish) point about him perhaps being SK since he's a bit forgettable/passive??? and also looked for bluetells earlier... but still not a D1 lynch - worst D1 deadline vote, not good - actually his little questions to me remind a lot of the Arnie game so rather wait and see than lynch for now, feels like potentially town Hapahauli 2 entered with great posts on rayn & me, quite confident that he's town - then dropped rayn suddenly, weird, possible scum after all? dunno, doesn't feel like a good D1 lynch anyway - went on to lynch Mafia GF which makes him a lot more towny - possible SK still considering rayn NK? KelsierSC 3 "tryhardish" opening post that is actually fluff - and the theme continues.... :/ ugh so awkward, but also confrontational, so maybe just awkwardly tryhard? - really eager to lynch "useless" people ugh..? what is this... well continues to antagonize people so prolly town maybe? dunno... well seems so tryhard that I guess town maybe... yeah I guess so - well he's been defending rayn and pushing me with very forced reasons so not confident about him being town anymore (though he'd be very stupid if he's scum with rayn) - well more likely town still, very fearless if scum WaveOfShadow 3 Reveals willingly which players he's confident in reading and responds to Kelsier in a pretty casual/townish(?) way - really casual posting style so town lean for now - really active/chatty in Championship as scum though so could be scum too - but he's still pretty happily participating in the discussion and felt genuinely frustrated at some point so town after all? - away for a lot of crucial discussion which drops his points by one - well he's come back to the thread and his posts seem pretty good lately - his thoughts resonated with my thoughts around deadline quite a bit which is good yamato77 3 said nothing noteworthy yet - well started making some jokey posts so town? very lurky though which is scummy for him - re-entered the thread with vengeance and has been very townish, I'd say even obvtown level pretty much - Hapa made some good points about him lacking confidence and going on lurking periods though - still (actively?) lurking and posting here and there... gave up exactly like in the PYP game ALERT ALERT - went on to vote & kill Robik though and started actually doing stuff so probably town after all Look at how he has opinion on everybody and shares it with everyone. Look at how he tried to see things from people's perspective. Look at how he has a thought and posts it in the thread to share his opinion with everybody. This is town Xatalos. ************** Mafia Xatalos is determined by suing the necessary, asking questions, and not really having original thoughts and stances. Moreover, he doesn't have an overall view of the game. + Show Spoiler + On December 10 2013 06:49 Xatalos wrote: Kushm4sta, by the way, I hope you're planning to play this game seriously. I've witnessed several games that you've partly ruined by lurking or worse. If you're scum, you can get policy lynched. That's fine. High level of certainty/aggressiveness, uncommon on his townplay described above. + Show Spoiler + On December 10 2013 07:43 Xatalos wrote: Well, that game is special in the sense that it started during night and nights were PM-only within given Houses. I definitely put pressure on gumshoe and Grackaroni during the night, I'd say. And I was relatively aggressive during the first day, as well. Probably not as aggressive as here, I agree. Do you mean that passive = townish and aggressive/proactive = scummy? Or what? I can't really see myself playing like this as scum. It'd have to be pretty carefully crafted at least. Too defensive when inquired, lacking deep reads on people. + Show Spoiler + On December 10 2013 08:09 Xatalos wrote: These are definitely some good points. It's surely premature to declare Corazon as today's lynch, but it would be a good pick in the current situation. I dislike Artanis's dismissal of Corazon's play as well, but I doubt Artanis and Corazon would be scum together. It would seem risky to make a connection like that. That's WIFOM, though. Commenting others ideas without actually bringing his own to the table. Says something wishy washy without risking himself with his reads ********* Xatalos is playing much more like his scum game than his town game here. This is specific and out of context, but illustrates what I'm saying: + Show Spoiler + On December 18 2014 23:31 Xatalos wrote: Yeah I agree. For both of those the scum motivation is strong and the town motivation is non-existent. I like Templar as scum too, though. But at least he hasn't actively pushed scum agenda. ##Vote GlowingBear This is Xat agreeing with an idea which is not his own, going against a townie, which he had no deep read or strong push. He also doesn't have any list post like I've brought from Guilty Mini Mafia. (Town game: Guilty Mini Mafia Scum game: Titanic II)( | ||
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I will do it later in case I survive | ||
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And Cake was an awesome lynch, I dont know what you're talking about rayn | ||
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wtf was all that rant on the setup? | ||
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Were you a role? | ||
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She said rels was mafia and so was I by association, then went against me. This is not good townplay at all | ||
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On October 16 2015 09:48 Koshi wrote: Vanilla Tawnesome Hahahaha Man, Koshi, I have no idea what you were doing in this game | ||
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On October 16 2015 09:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well she was the ony one to EVER vote for an anti town in this game. Okay that doesn't even mean anything. But like, you guys went of for someone that had no sense of survival (which is what mafia/SK team 100% has in this game). Then, you had arguments like "I know her meta" when none of you have EVER played with her when she was town... I would have lynched Rels and Xatalos 100*% for that shit, or like going on with that shit, hell Superbia even said "she is playing differently from her town games"?!?!!!?!!!!!?!?! ok. idk what you should have done one D1, but certain people (mainly Rels and Xatalos imo) should have realized cake is not scum. Koshi did, he was just fucking lazy and played against his wincon. TT did, TT did play the best town game imo in this game. Gratz. Like you had ~5 ppl who did not play at all, 3 of them were mafia/sk. One was Koshi. One was deconduo (you rly didn't do much). You get more if you remove the useless, especially here in this setup. I've never said I know her meta. I actually said the opposite: I said I don't usually use meta. And she scum read me for that too. It's just that if you have reasons why someone is mafia, and then you say someone else is mafia with him using unflipped association, but going against THIS one and not THAT one will never make sense to me in my mind. I could never see a townie doing that. And honestly, too many people were doing nothing. Deconduo, Onegu, even Moosy was just hanging around. It makes it very difficult to get scum reads when you can't clear some people. Koshi was super town but that setup rant and his opening were ARGH, Sylencia at some point looked townie, Superbia was an ok read too. Tictock looked townie. The rest was pretty difficult. | ||
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On October 16 2015 10:20 CopCake wrote: SO WHO WAS THE BEST THIS GAME? OMG CAKE She was right and called out bullshit Oh she did she did but did town listened to her? Noooooo because she speaks like Sofia Vergara in Modern Family therefore she is not smart. Uhm, no | ||
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On October 16 2015 10:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: well tbh she was the only one to EVER vote for scum She was also the day1 lynch in a majority game Anyway, it doesn't matter | ||
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On October 16 2015 16:19 Rels wrote: LOL yeah. Didn't want to lynch my buddy right ? p: There is an explanation though. Just before I want to sleep, CopCake implied GB and Xata were scum together. It didn't make sense. Of course it didn't make her mafia, but town!Rels obviously didn't see that. p: Yeah scum!Rels is really more tunneled than town!Rels. Some mafia resorts on unflipped association just because it is an easier way to fabricate reads. The fact that she scum read you and connected me to you, but went against ME instead of you was very scummy. Then she makes us mafia with Xatalos. And calls me mafia for "knowing she doesn't play like that as mafia" just because we played a game together. It WAS scummy and it is pretty damn telling it was, because 9 people voted her. And if any veteran come here and say it was town's fault, not hers, I must say that your hypocrisy reached a surprisingly high level. For the record, I'm not berating her, I'm defending the lynch on her this time, which wasn't bad AT ALL | ||
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On October 16 2015 21:42 Rels wrote: Yeah but I thought she was town for the way she was behaving, totally different from the firefly game. I mean, if rayn had done exactly that, he was scum 100%; but not copcake. But that's a meta thing, I agree she was rightfully the lynch if we discard meta. And she was 100% right about Slam. The way he handled the lynch made him 100% scum, I don't know how we all missed it somehow. "copcake is 100% town! Not gonna do anything about it though. Not even cause a no lynch to avoid lynching town." Super different from TT's and Koshi's "not sure about Copcake but I guess there are weird things about her" Well, I didn't catch up the thread at that time since I was studying and doing an exam yesterday. I was going to catch up today lol Koshi had a similar behaviour. That's why I said "Koshi tomorrow". He even ranted on people for having lynched her lol. The fact that she was playing differently doesn't mean she wouldn't be mafia here. I usually play differently every couple of games regardless of alignment. This time, for instance, I played a very straight forward game, and I don't usually do that as town. | ||
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On October 16 2015 21:36 Xatalos wrote: Dunno really, tbh I would probably lynch CopCake again. Not sure why rayn says that I should have realized her alignment as I don't really know her meta too well and her actions were very... impossible to understand for town. I guess it's a point for her that she didn't really even care about her own fate. But she might have been the Groupie or something (meaning that there's not as much danger even if she ended up dying). I've also seen scum do some crazy/risky stuff before (Regy...). Tictock: yeah that "3 games in a row" thing was probably the worst reason for a read I've ever seen You should note that it's exactly equally likely for someone to roll scum regardless of their previous roles haha... Sorry that I didn't respond to you properly, but I guess I was just a bit annoyed by the constant push and had some doubt about your motivations as well so...I think I would have been able to do something D2, but this game was just very difficult for me for some reason or another. And Slam... really, I guess I'll never be able to read him. gobble/Onegu were possible lynches for me though so maybe I would have noticed them better during D2. Rels played well too and fooled me initially with the high effort. Slam is that kind of player that in later days you just know he is mafia/town And by the way I think I may have discovered a tell? I'm happy | ||
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On October 16 2015 22:27 justanothertownie wrote: No, slam is the kind of player that everyone claims to be able to read when in reality those people really aren't. I've always been right on slam in late games. Always | ||
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On October 16 2015 22:27 Rels wrote: MAN SOME PEOPLE HERE MIGHT BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT ISAAC WILL GET A NEW UPDATE SUPER SOON http://store.steampowered.com/app/401920/ SUPER HYPED What is Isaac? | ||
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On October 16 2015 22:49 Rels wrote: A great game. A super addictive roguelike made by the guy that made Super Meat Boy Watched a gameplay Legend of Zelda meets Megaman | ||
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On October 20 2015 02:35 Koshi wrote: I have no new secret room. Or I have never looked for it. Great. Now I will be hunting phantom secret rooms as well. I'm still searching for the tri force in ocarina of time. So, no problem | ||
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