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coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 27 2015 21:33 GMT
#158
im in, ive been playing lots of sc2 mafia and this seems rly similar
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 27 2015 21:48 GMT
#160
/in
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 27 2015 22:46 GMT
#167
On September 28 2015 07:11 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 06:33 coolTLname wrote:
im in, ive been playing lots of sc2 mafia and this seems rly similar

Yo I've no idea what is sc2 mafia but if this is your first mafia forum game I wouldn't recommend playing two games simultaneously. Actually I wouldn't recommend it to anyone :p but some people seems to be able to do it just fine
Now if sc2 mafia is a forum game then: disregard this message and sorry :p

sure i opted out of the other one, definitely wanna play this one sounds fun ive played forum mafia before sc2 is somewhat similar but games only last ~1 hr
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 27 2015 22:50 GMT
#168
sc2 mafia is more a puzzle game but i play it similar to a forum game. im sure u guys are way better than me though
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 27 2015 23:22 GMT
#177
##teamwhiskey
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 29 2015 07:33 GMT
#600
On September 29 2015 08:22 J Roc wrote:
J Roc is here

Nowatimsayin

Rayn and SL hardcore bussing each other to start the game, both think it is funny to claim mafia when they are actually mafia.

Trfel why do you have a town read on Rayn?


agree his first post seems like a town claim by gf

On September 29 2015 08:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB's posts are strangely mechanical. There are a few with flavor but most of them are factory produced.

town read on MOOOsy

I'll have to re-read rsoultin's posts and I think Trfel is suspicious but town


##vote raynpelikoneet

and he posts this after GB accuses him
On September 29 2015 07:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i literally don't care. i gotta go to sleep.
marv can read me and then it's 100%.
sl is mafia, gb is town.


Just seems very mechanical. Like "I did not have sexual relations with that women"

=P
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 29 2015 07:34 GMT
#601
##Vote: raynpelikoneet
oops
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 29 2015 07:47 GMT
#602
So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?

Can medics heal themselves?
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 29 2015 08:08 GMT
#604
Uh anyway i've been looking at sicklurker. For some reason i thought he was blue but hes been spewing tons of nonsense, he claims hes "drinking" and he seems sad i guess, but even more reason to post something meaningful .. @_@

marvelous would be mafia if hes good in other games, i guess i should check.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 29 2015 19:51 GMT
#933
rels GB and rayn, if sicklurker is new then nah and if the shining is usually afk then nah otherwise all 5 are mafia IMO

<3 rsoultin
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 29 2015 19:55 GMT
#936
and in the beginning , where everyone is having friendly talk rayn seemed very mechanical. Also he keeps saying BRB, which irks me. He's irksome. however he has a town read on me which is odd, but then votes J roc when we literally share the same views so maybe not so odd. RAYN for president godfather 2016
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 29 2015 19:56 GMT
#938
Also damdred is super cool, i like that guy
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 29 2015 20:18 GMT
#953
Na
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 29 2015 20:20 GMT
#954
Brilliant rayn. Brilliant impression of an idiot. rayn for godfather 2016 deport them all. juan by juan
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 29 2015 20:57 GMT
#972
being accused by you and GB is hardly being under suspicion
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 01:12 GMT
#1054
im not smurf i just noticed GB was calling out random ppl, like lightning said earlier i was modkilled in student mafia for not knowing rules, and i just play mafia on sc2 where u win by game mechanics alone, so i was focusing on that.

someone mentioned this earlier too that GB likes to do that for reads and tbh i was just insulting the other guy haha, kind of like a show of confidence that i dont really care about his accusation.

Anyway i thought it was GB because he was bussing ppl i thought who were town, and probably blue. He seemed like he wasnt looking for any reaction because he didnt really wait at all, and just wanted to see who he could bandwagon as ... *drumroll* mafia .

anyway GB is now bandwagoning me , again. and so is rels, and MOOSY who i thought was town is probably just poking me. Either way, hopefully the more i speak the more apparent it is that i am town.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 01:15 GMT
#1057
Anyway another solid town read on Lightningstrike , as any mafia in this situation would probably just bandwagon me :D Thanks for support
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 01:24 GMT
#1064
I've only thought about his first few posts, but he seemed like mafia then J roc and some ppl accused him and he seemed like he was just defending without thinking too much about how he looked, which i find townish. like the flurry of posts made me think he was town, even though his logic seemed bad at first and looked mafia
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 01:27 GMT
#1067
Also the ppl i think are mafia are voting for Trfel and J roc, before he left said Tfrel was town so INNO !
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 01:34 GMT
#1071
it's true Trfel isn't really playing , but he posted at the beginning he was really busy with

"Basically, I'm going to be spending all of my time composing music, so I won't really be able to play this game. Sorry about that, because I know I'm the only reason that you all signed up"

So yeah, i dunno what to think about that tbh.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 01:37 GMT
#1073
maf maf town , u missed my earlier post it seems
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 01:38 GMT
#1076
oh nvm u quoted it lol .. well yea GB cuz hes bussing town ppl, rels cuz he was late to the thread and ur town imo u read thread and do stuff
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 01:42 GMT
#1079
Oh i just mean accusing , not bussing
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 01:43 GMT
#1081
...mh
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 02:01 GMT
#1094
On September 30 2015 10:46 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 10:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 30 2015 10:42 coolTLname wrote:
Oh i just mean accusing , not bussing

hm...


Gonna call this a newbie slip for now. coolTL, what is your current read on marv? You made a post that I mentioned earlier and i'm wondering if you did what you implied you were going to do.


I thought he was legitimately happy and bantering , i got a good "vibe". Also later on he argued with damdred, so he probably took a break after that? Otherwise his lack of participation looks bad . Post some stuff Marv!
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 02:04 GMT
#1098
On September 30 2015 11:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On September 30 2015 11:00 Damdred wrote:
Wouldn't it be awesome though cool accidently slipped the entire scum team in one moment

yeeeep

tbh part of the reason why I'm buying the theory is because i feel that the term "bus" should have been thrown around even if he's only been in one Mafia game before. Damdred, can you remember if the term was at least mentioned while coolTLname was alive?


i was modkilled day 1 barely into the game. Anyway don't get too addicted ... just saying. That would be awesome but is not the case here.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 02:06 GMT
#1100
On September 30 2015 11:03 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 10:48 sicklucker wrote:
As of now i would vote j roc that opening was so bad as he missed two points in the thread in his very small opening.

Not reading the thread = mafia. I should know I role mafa alot
Does anyone else want to lynch sicklucker?

yes
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 02:11 GMT
#1106
On September 30 2015 11:08 sicklucker wrote:
Why the hell would you want to lynch me.

better question is why the hell not?
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 02:16 GMT
#1119
On September 30 2015 11:12 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 11:11 coolTLname wrote:
On September 30 2015 11:08 sicklucker wrote:
Why the hell would you want to lynch me.

better question is why the hell not?
No, that's a bad way to think about things.

If you don't have reasons to lynch someone, don't lynch them. If you don't have any reasons to lynch anyone, look harder.

Do you have any reasons to lynch sicklucker?


ahh i was doing the thing u guys were doing XD
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 02:17 GMT
#1122
im not very convincing it seems
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 02:26 GMT
#1138
On September 30 2015 11:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 11:16 coolTLname wrote:
On September 30 2015 11:12 Trfel wrote:
On September 30 2015 11:11 coolTLname wrote:
On September 30 2015 11:08 sicklucker wrote:
Why the hell would you want to lynch me.

better question is why the hell not?
No, that's a bad way to think about things.

If you don't have reasons to lynch someone, don't lynch them. If you don't have any reasons to lynch anyone, look harder.

Do you have any reasons to lynch sicklucker?


ahh i was doing the thing u guys were doing XD

Well we don't really try to bash each other unless it's rsoul. (<3)

Anyway, the more important thing is answering the question. What exactly do you think is suspicious about sicklucker?

well he was making good reads, then starting spewing nonsense then went afk for a long time? he claims drinking + then sick and asleep for 16 hours which doesnt make sense to me. Either way i just wanted to see what his opinions were after Trfel mentioned him
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 17:10 GMT
#1812
So what the fuck. We have to lynch someone other than Rsoultin or truffle . Im down for GB as well, if you are moosy, otherwise Rsoultin switch over to Rayn
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 17:11 GMT
#1815
Damdred, thoughts on rayn? Truffle , you said you caught up on the thread last night, so what are your thoughts? Otherwise vote with us on GB/rayn
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 17:13 GMT
#1819
Fine ## vote GlowingBear
Moosy switch over bro, truffle get on GB if u want to live
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 17:14 GMT
#1821
I think Rels is town, and sicklurker is mafia
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 17:16 GMT
#1827
Sicklurker, Rayn, and GB. Mafia Stop derailing thread mafia , thx. im not answering something i've already answered.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 17:18 GMT
#1832
Trfel regardless of what u think, there are 4 votes on GB if u vote now, making you not lynch able. Gogogogo
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 17:20 GMT
#1839
On October 01 2015 02:17 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 02:16 coolTLname wrote:
Sicklurker, Rayn, and GB. Mafia Stop derailing thread mafia , thx. im not answering something i've already answered.

just popped in before i go workout

could you quote where you answered it please?

On September 30 2015 10:24 coolTLname wrote:
I've only thought about his first few posts, but he seemed like mafia then J roc and some ppl accused him and he seemed like he was just defending without thinking too much about how he looked, which i find townish. like the flurry of posts made me think he was town, even though his logic seemed bad at first and looked mafia

On September 30 2015 10:34 coolTLname wrote:
it's true Trfel isn't really playing , but he posted at the beginning he was really busy with

"Basically, I'm going to be spending all of my time composing music, so I won't really be able to play this game. Sorry about that, because I know I'm the only reason that you all signed up"

So yeah, i dunno what to think about that tbh.

coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 17:21 GMT
#1845
Moosyy we can free rayn next day ok? <3
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 17:23 GMT
#1850
On October 01 2015 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 02:20 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:17 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:16 coolTLname wrote:
Sicklurker, Rayn, and GB. Mafia Stop derailing thread mafia , thx. im not answering something i've already answered.

just popped in before i go workout

could you quote where you answered it please?

On September 30 2015 10:24 coolTLname wrote:
I've only thought about his first few posts, but he seemed like mafia then J roc and some ppl accused him and he seemed like he was just defending without thinking too much about how he looked, which i find townish. like the flurry of posts made me think he was town, even though his logic seemed bad at first and looked mafia

On September 30 2015 10:34 coolTLname wrote:
it's true Trfel isn't really playing , but he posted at the beginning he was really busy with

"Basically, I'm going to be spending all of my time composing music, so I won't really be able to play this game. Sorry about that, because I know I'm the only reason that you all signed up"

So yeah, i dunno what to think about that tbh.


that doesn't answer the question.
if you think he is town there should be no reason to think he is suspicious.
because being suspicious = mafia.

Hey rayn Can you revisit me when im actually lynch target and theres not a few hours left ? Thanks.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 17:29 GMT
#1864
On October 01 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 02:21 coolTLname wrote:
Moosyy we can free rayn next day ok? <3


nh

eh, like...if truffle's town cool doing this doesn't make much sense from mafia, and i think truffle's town?

but why do you think truffle and i are solid town?

Thats a good question , i will compile some stuffs for the thread. But mostly because theres commonly a mislynch day 1, and the way the people i think are mafia are voting/ behaving. Like super chill and relax.. like Aha theres 2 town being lynched, we can just chill. and now look what GB and his minions are freaking out

be back in 15 minutes with some reads as rsoultin you've posted a ton of shit , just saying townies post lots, mafia are usually more quiet.

This is gonna be fun.. *cringes*
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 17:33 GMT
#1869
On October 01 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 02:29 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:21 coolTLname wrote:
Moosyy we can free rayn next day ok? <3


nh

eh, like...if truffle's town cool doing this doesn't make much sense from mafia, and i think truffle's town?

but why do you think truffle and i are solid town?

Thats a good question , i will compile some stuffs for the thread. But mostly because theres commonly a mislynch day 1, and the way the people i think are mafia are voting/ behaving. Like super chill and relax.. like Aha theres 2 town being lynched, we can just chill. and now look what GB and his minions are freaking out

no.

Show nested quote +
be back in 15 minutes with some reads as rsoultin you've posted a ton of shit , just saying townies post lots, mafia are usually more quiet.
*

this would by default make you mafia btw.

so then vote me , otherwise stop derailing thread mafia . Id be okay with a lynch on me rather than rsoultin
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 17:53 GMT
#1886
On October 01 2015 02:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 02:32 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:30 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:26 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:20 Damdred wrote:
Not really meta strictly its just how you are approaching the game. But its a bit laughable how you try to get reads on me then complain about broken meta


My read on you is not based on meta and it's boring that you and rsoultin are focusing on a thing I'm not accusing you of since the first 6 hours of the game. I've repeatedly said that, I'm getting exhausted from saying that again.

I AM NOT SCUM READING DAMDRED FOR HIS REACTION

Maybe in bold people will know

And if you say "town GB acts in this particular way and he isn't doing it here" it is meta


the point GB is scum damdred LITERALLY NEVER gets mad or pouts as scum in my experience and your little bit of nothing should never outweigh that when you're fully aware he's an emotional robot as scum

i'm not saying you're scumreading him for it; i'm saying you ignoring it is scummy cause you know better


And you're ignoring that he is well aware of that trait and he may have faked it? Like I tried to do the ADHD last game I was scum?


it would be the first time he did it successfully. i'll grant you that you may possibly maybe believe this and you may not be scum for it, but no, damdred isn't faking and it's obvious


Okay I will gently ask a possible cop to check him then.

Let's discuss possible lynch targets then?

So theres a framer on mafia? Thanks
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 18:00 GMT
#1892
btw 4 hours left
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 18:21 GMT
#1904
So i've read the first 5 ish pages of these 2 mini games where rsoultin is mafia

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480171-newbie-student-mafia-vii?user=rsoultin&page=3
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafia?user=rsoultin

she basically flirts with everyone and keeps up the playful banter. doesnt contribute much, if it is its mostly a one-liner question

In this game however, she immediately goes after leads and starts reading people, giving past game history on some people, and overall contributing very heavily.

Don't lynch rsoultin!
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 18:48 GMT
#1914
On October 01 2015 00:14 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:07 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 30 2015 23:06 rsoultin wrote:
scum actually does shit with a purpose in mind i mean seriously ><

and this post proves it.


so why haven't you been pushing me all game?

Because i have not read your posts.
Is that so hard to understand?


then why are you so sure i'm scum?


solely because i said that damdred's response to you was factually true? it was

you call me scum when i'm town and town when i'm scum ever since you returned to the site lol >< what sort of mental thought process would you have to be employing to simply decide i'm scum and not read my posts, not push me, but support a push on me?

rayn .. is so obviously mafia XD
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 18:49 GMT
#1918
in the nested quote he even states he hasn't read rsoultins post yet hes convinced shes mafia lol..
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 19:08 GMT
#1933
On September 29 2015 07:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote sicklucker
goodnight


Hi rayn!

You look scummy

Let's talk

so they never talked in thread after this comment, because they can just talk to each other as mafia buddies

On September 29 2015 17:54 GlowingBear wrote:
- Here is my problem with Damdred:

He has an opening requesting a town friend. For me, it looked like a simple post, nothing into it. Truffle asked a question and he answered like it was some kind of bait (mafia would be scared to hard align with him? Lol)

Ok, then I asked what he got out of his bait, more than once. He never answered it directly. He has yet to explain WHAT the bait was and WHAT READS he got from it. He avoids answering this. He actually avoids any kind of question/pressuring, which is usually damdy's scum trait

- My problem with truffle is:

He came to the game really try hard - but his quearions are off. They usually don't have follow ups and I've caught him asking questions just to ask. For example, he asked a question to Damdred "why didn't you put 'town' as a requisition to be your friend?". Damdred answer, truffle never followed up. When I asked what truffle was expecting with that question he said he had no idea. When I asked what he got, he said nothing. Well, why did he ask the question then? I mean, I will usually ask things to further investigate someone's alignment and the answer provided will make me more certain of a read or uncertain. It doesn't seems that truffle was really caring to clarify something or to unveil Damdred's alignment. It just sounded like he wanted to look he was trying to produce content, which looks scummy


God isnt that really fucking hard to read? It's like he doesnt even care if someone reads it or if it contributes. Unconscious MAFIA tell
On September 30 2015 18:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Here is where I'm at:

Rels
Sicklucker


Scott
Rsoultin
Rayn
LS
Marv
TheShining


Moosy
CoolTL
Damdred
Truffle


Also he has a town read on rels and sicklurker yet TRUFFLE is super mafia scum? @_@

On October 01 2015 00:15 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 01 2015 00:11 Rels wrote:
On September 29 2015 19:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdy you only had marv going against you about a thing you call a misphrase. I am going against you because you haven't clarified the bait thing yet.

This over emotional reaction reeks Mafia from you. If you're town then you should really consider stop playing because there is nothing more natural in this game than being called Mafia.

@GB: I've heard multiple times that emo Damdred = town, robot Damdred = mafia. Where is your Damdred meta coming from ?


Hi

I've played with Damdred a lot of times and it's not really meta. It's just I have seen Mafia damdred dismissing pushes on him.

The emotional damded I have seen is the "aw, I don't like this game" instead of "fuck you fuck you all"

Damdred is (was) one of the kindest people I have played with. I don't seem him doing this genuinely


Isnt this just a flat out lie ? I've heard from other people in this thread this is not the case.

On September 29 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote:
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On September 29 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.

Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny

and like walks

Please apply for my townfriend

i have a good voice, maybe?
i might be funny.
i enjoy walks.

enough?


Rayn who is with you in your scum qt?


On September 29 2015 23:10 GlowingBear wrote:
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On September 29 2015 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gotta go buy some beer for sauna, be back in ~15.


This is the weirdest sentence I have read in a while

Hes noticed weird things about Rayn and even calls him scummy, yet he doesn't think hes scum at all and openly agrees with him on votes , etc . They communication seems overly friendly, and he defends rayn even, against me .
On October 01 2015 00:56 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 01 2015 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
I just can't argue more than I did anymore.

let's be honest you haven't argued shit about lynching Trfel after the first 4h into the game..


He hasn't posted anymore?

So are you willing to listen to me now?

???????????????????????? mafia slip ?

i noticed they usually post at the same time, and so far theyve been accusing everybody but each other, at least with actual quotes and logic etc
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
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September 30 2015 19:14 GMT
#1939
On October 01 2015 03:21 coolTLname wrote:
So i've read the first 5 ish pages of these 2 mini games where rsoultin is mafia

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480171-newbie-student-mafia-vii?user=rsoultin&page=3
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafia?user=rsoultin

she basically flirts with everyone and keeps up the playful banter. doesnt contribute much, if it is its mostly a one-liner question

In this game however, she immediately goes after leads and starts reading people, giving past game history on some people, and overall contributing very heavily.

Don't lynch rsoultin!

Truffle , what do u think of this ?
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 19:19 GMT
#1947
On October 01 2015 03:52 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:49 coolTLname wrote:
in the nested quote he even states he hasn't read rsoultins post yet hes convinced shes mafia lol..


eh yeah

and he did give reads on me before earlier too but i still think he's town and it's frustrating ><

did you ever say why you were reading truffle town? because your consolidate on gb thing makes no sense at all without a strong read on truffle

due to bandwagon and votes mostly, like i said earlier i think and agree with you that its a town split vote at the moment with no mafia, due to their activity levels , he also posted in the beginning of thread that he had music stuff to do, complete with a very solid explanation, others have been like Welp, been sick, or traveling Im busy.

his activity level has been consistently AFK even when accused , whereas other people suddenly rise in activity when they are being accused such as glowing bear , and are actually pretty active even though they pretend not to be
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 19:27 GMT
#1958
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=31

So after i vote Rayn, GB suddenly shows up again and posts a lot to distract from what im saying.

Also someone mentioned before that GB was being "mechanical" and i agreed. i think rsoultin mentioned that GB usually posts like a crack addict as town, and thats definitely not happening.

If anything i think his reads are pretty mediocre (and im new lol ) and he hasn't been doing much reading or anything helpful except one block of text that was really hard to read, no spaces or anything.

and now he suspects me, im not sure what to think about that, but i think i look town for the most part? Also if u notice, by voting me , he is making it more likely for rsoultin to be lynched, which is the bigger threat to mafia. I also noticed rels doing this same thing by sliding down his vote to me, but town prob
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 19:54 GMT
#1984
marv is irrelevant at the moment, so i have not checked yet.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
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September 30 2015 20:03 GMT
#1990
Rsoultin has the most posts in this thread, she has been very active and been making very good reads , and bringing up players past histories such as GlowingBear who is usually a very active townie . Don't lynch the most active townie please.

And rayn looks more mafia now, because he is lying above because she has been trying to figure out who is town and mafia the most out of all of us.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 20:04 GMT
#1993
And we have plenty of time left.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 20:06 GMT
#1995
On October 01 2015 05:03 The Shining wrote:
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On October 01 2015 04:54 coolTLname wrote:
marv is irrelevant at the moment, so i have not checked yet.


If I'm understanding this right, marv is pushing your townread super hard for lynch. How is his alignment not relevant?

Why would you say you're going to do something and then not do it? And then do the same thing with rso past games instead? I don't understand this

how is saying he is mafia or town going to change his vote? i have better things to do such as defend rsoultin directly or accuse the glowing bear/ rayn and possibly sicklucker one of whom have 3 votes on.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 20:07 GMT
#2000
I will do it, but later.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 20:10 GMT
#2007
Again Rsoultin literally has a 20 page filter, please don't lynch the obviously very active townie. (most active player)
here Rayn says Rsoultin hasn't been doing anything but shes the MOST active.

On October 01 2015 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not trying to be an idiot towards you Tina.

But the way you present your arguments is scummy as fuck.

You don't actually take any kind of a stance on my argument against you. You call marv's argument "omgus" when it clearly is not, it has been pointed out for like 10 times in this thread.

You give defenses like "i would never do this as mafia because...." which i do not believe are true, because i KNOW you have acted otherwise in games.

You misrepresent things, like cooliodude's argument one me, if you were town it should be really easyfor you to see what i was saying at the time i did it, just because i managed to mistype one word does not make it scummy like you seem to think it does.

You are not looking for mafia, rn you are looking for someone to lynch,. and if you were town you would try to convince me to lynch scott who is btw 100% mafia (with you). There is no reason you should be thinking he is town (as you don't) and if you are town there is no reason why you should NOT try to lynch him.

You are both mafia. If you are not mafia, then pfff.... You have fucked up this game totally, because you are not even trying to figure out who is mafia (no you haven't, all game). You have not tried to lynch mafia (no you haven't, all game). That is a fact.

GlowingBear is not mafia. If i am wrong on this shit you can call me bad how much you want to but i am not gonna call myself bad if you somehow happen to flip town.

And now it's too late.


I suspect rayn the most, the above about rsoultin is a total lie, and he claims GB is not mafia , who is his buddy.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 21:12 GMT
#2128
Lynch on me is fine please check my filter for my suspicions and I'm busy gonna check right before
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
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September 30 2015 22:37 GMT
#2348
GB no ones taking you seriously after that day 1 , want a kit kat?
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 22:37 GMT
#2349
and the votes piled up on me super quick, like they did with scott
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
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September 30 2015 22:52 GMT
#2353
On October 01 2015 06:34 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 06:29 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:24 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:15 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:09 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:08 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
there is literally no point were tina, scott and coolTLname have been the lynch targets.
no no no.


...you're actually right...the voting thread is still very scattered

he'd have to be reading the thread to come to the conclusion that it's between the three of us, wouldn't he?


Dear, quick answer

Top 3 scum reads and every town read of yours

Go


you're my main scumread

could also lynch ls, cool in that order

truffle, marv, shining, damdred still top towns

rels next tier

and no i'm not sure and won't be sure cause every time i think someone's scum i find reasons to think they're town >< and i'm not sure scott's claim is real, either, but i'm not lynching him this phase


I'm voting cool TL
Doesn't that give you pause?


given my scumread on you is stronger than on him? not particularly


Why not pushing a lynch on me then?


that's what i was doing before ls


Hmm no. You haven't even voted me yet.

You are one of the best players to read me, like you can read Damdred, yet you have been wishy washy the whole day regarding me. You do have a scum read or you have a town read on me. I don't expect you have leaning reads on me.

Maybe you're saying I'm not displaying my town traits, ok. But am I playing like I do as Mafia?

Saying I'm never hyper focused is an extreme lie. Saying I never not cared for a lynch as town is an extreme lie.

As FreezingFoot, I was extremely into the game, doing the best I can to drive lynches, and I was Mafia. So I can or cannot care for the lynch as both alignmebts. That is the sole reason you're scumreading me.


She did vote you, tho.

more proof GB is not reading thread therefore is mafia
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
September 30 2015 22:53 GMT
#2354
On October 01 2015 06:35 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have been in the thread for the last fucking 6 hours every single minute.
I know what i am talking about.


i was gone for maybe an hour in there and I WAS THE LEADING WAGON WHEN I WAS GONE

so by definition you are either SUPREMELY mistaken right now or lying through YOUR DAMNED TEETH

if anyone cares to filter rayn hes been lying all game
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 02:13 GMT
#2374
agreed the counterclaim looks really shady, i found it odd that rayn already knew he was counterclaiming , and then damdred literally quoted rayn's post. then GB claims a role, maybe to claim he was hit by the power drink (and claims townie)?

Importantly, hes role blocker, so if theres no night kill (Mafia can hold KP and double hit ? ) he can claim he roleblocked me then tries to lynch, to save damdred

i think we should all look at the voting patterns, keep in mind scott had a huge majority of votes , 7-4 so GB did not need to switch from me to avoid suspicion.

BUT Guess what, that makes it even more suspicious! because u get more information if scott dies , or flips mafia is very good. And obviously he was not afk, since he said to everyone GET COOLTLNAME. this makes me think he already knew scott was not going to flip mafia and kept his vote on me to look less suspicious . The other two townies were afk, but if there were here , wouldn't they have just voted up scott as well? You would fear a mafia surge on the second highest guy, so even 7-4 is not something to ignore
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 02:20 GMT
#2378
On October 01 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
ok first step is to lynch coolTLname 100% D2. There is zero reason for him to have refused to listen to everything that people were stating against rsoultin. The ease with which he pulls out reasons to townread her disturbs me as well. This is most likely a case of TMI where he knows the alignments so finds it easy to be certain on this read.

how do u explain me getting lynched day 1 unless scott claimed tracker ? Does me having a TON of votes, very rapidly , seem mafia like to you?

I was defending the most active townie who was about to get lynched by mafia, Did u notice how she didnt even vote up trfel because she thought he was town? Did u see her other mafia games where she plays 100% differently ? Do u realize she has the largest filter out of anyone in this game ? I could go on but u could also just check my filter.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 02:22 GMT
#2379
Whatever, i honestly wanted to get lynched because playing with rayn was pretty distasteful. Calling him mafia does not warrant huge shit talking. Hopefully he gets a warning at least
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 02:32 GMT
#2390
yes this is all fine and good except for the fact that you think shes town. and im newer so my conclusions would obviously be less .. good. I guess i am what u ppl call "tunneling".

Anyways i've provided and researched plenty. For one ive actually read the whole thread and ive been calling out ppl on things they've missed. probably only 3 town are doing that.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 02:33 GMT
#2392
Calling out people on blatant lies, because they havent read thread. ** such as GB and rayn.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
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October 01 2015 02:34 GMT
#2393
how does me flipping scum make gb scum?
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 02:37 GMT
#2395
also i dont get why scott even claimed in the first place. he suspected me even -_-
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
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October 01 2015 02:41 GMT
#2397
GB has been in the thread 70% of the time , but posting nothing of value. when stuff of value gets posted boom GB rayn spam
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 02:42 GMT
#2398
Or rather when suspicions fall upon him, he suddenly appears and spams useless nonsense. Which shows hes actively reading the thread..
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
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October 01 2015 03:47 GMT
#2424
On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival.


Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game.

I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute.

I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him.

Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 03:49 GMT
#2425
On October 01 2015 12:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 12:16 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW Tfrel go fish for more scum because I not as I VT unless I'm the Wandering Townie or Miller since they are not self aware.


VT would never claim like this because of the powershot ability, IMO.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 03:57 GMT
#2429
I think we have enough information as it is, and the less posting the better, so we can review the thread. I will try to analyze everyone
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 18:56 GMT
#2604
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece.

On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread.

i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way.

On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).


My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch.

On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival.


Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game.

I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute.

I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him.

Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw.



I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 19:02 GMT
#2606
And i called him out for derailing the thread, not cluttering. He goes off topic a lot, for example when there is only a few hours left. I've caught him lying probably 7 times now
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 19:04 GMT
#2607
On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece.

On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread.

i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way.

On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).


My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch.

On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival.


Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game.

I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute.

I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him.

Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw.



I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now.


Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia

Glowing bear u should know better of all people, why would u even say this ? It is quite ridiculous, we all know mafia does not read the thread. Why would a townie not read the thread?
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 19:05 GMT
#2608
Furthermore he is making up false accusations based on complete lies.
## free rayn
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 19:13 GMT
#2610
I bolded the lies in the nested quotes btw. Rayn states: rsoultin was never a lynch target,

Completely false, when Trfel and Rsoultin were tied at 4 a piece, rsoultin looked like she would be lynched for even more than just a few hours.

And he even says that "coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed"

Lol?

Lynch all liars, please.

And he states GB was the main lynch candidate, He actually only had 3 votes while rsoultin still had 4. He was never the primary lynch target at any point, Afterwards i was voted up, BEFORE scott claimed

## free rayn 2015
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 19:18 GMT
#2612
You're not going to even defend yourself?
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 22:24 GMT
#2764
On October 02 2015 05:14 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 11:22 coolTLname wrote:
Whatever, i honestly wanted to get lynched because playing with rayn was pretty distasteful. Calling him mafia does not warrant huge shit talking. Hopefully he gets a warning at least


Lol its rayn and this is a game, you've got to learn to take things with a grain of salt. And I didn't really views your willingness to get lynched as this but more as demotivated scum giving up. You only came back to attempt to vote Scott with the rest of us last minute, even though it didn't count. If you wanted to get lynched, you wouldn't have tried to get on that wagon but would have truly just afkd EoD.

I was willing to get lynched to keep rsoultin alive, scott however was suspicious to me. It wasn't demotivated at all, i just literally had 7 votes on me with like 30 minutes left lol, so i said Yeah w.e this is fine , check my filter for my accusations and then came back to check at the end in case anyone else were to get lynched, on my mobile phone. Im not like an afk townie who doesn't want to play, im fairly active this game
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 22:28 GMT
#2770
On October 02 2015 07:20 sicklucker wrote:
Cool is mafia. im never mafia with him. like I dont know why your so suspect of me when his first post called me the god father. He wants to be lynched over scott but then he self votes after scott claims a power role. ya fuck him

I very clearly stated that i thought RAYN was godfather not you. Another lie

Also, i wanted to be lynched over RSOULTIN not scott. stop lying when did i ever defend scott? All he did was post like twice one liners of his suspicions in list format.

Im thinking a Rayn GB SL , but damdred should be mafia ?
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 22:32 GMT
#2775
On October 02 2015 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, not really. i don't waste my time on bullshit.

maybe you should go back to playing sc2mafia where reading the game and understanding what people say consists of simple one-liner messages like "i claim this role" or "my check on X is Y", and not thought processes and several other things like thinking what another person thinks and if it is motivated from what faction.

I literally have no interest in proving your completely lie statements lies, over and over again. Anyone who reads the thread knows they are just plain out lies. But let me give you an example, just because it doesn't take more than a minute of my time that i consider more valuably used on other things than talking with you:
i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

Here is a post where scott claimed:
On October 01 2015 05:39 scott31337 wrote:
I can't break Rayn's tunnel - and I really was hoping to get some use out of this before day 2 - I had planned an end of the day list post - but with Strongman I'm pretty fucked anyway.

I'm a one shot Nikka Coffey Malt Whiskey.
I'm hard claiming.

Here is the votecount at that time:
On October 01 2015 05:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Recall List


rsoultin (2): Trfel, Rels, scott31337
GlowingBear (3): rsoultin, Damdred, coolTLname
Trfel (2): GlowingBear, Rels, scott31337, LightningStrike, sicklucker
coolTLname (3): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy
raynpelikoneet (1): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy
Rels (0): rsoultin
marvellosity (0): rsoultin, Damdred, MoosyDoosy
MoosyDoosy (0): marvellosity
scott31337 (3): marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, sicklucker

Not listing (1): The Shining

Now you can go back and look at your sentence again.
Then you can go back and read what happened AFTER scott claimed. Votes piled up on you.

You are literally just lying unless you think "last minute" means 1,5 hour before the deadline and unless you think 7 = 3.

thank you for your time.

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am waiting for you to prove the statement 7 = 3 because otherwise you are a liar and as per your own definition should be lynched.


coolTLname i am waiting for your answer to this.
Not because it would change anything, just because i think this is hilarious.
Almost as hilarious as asking that one dude what his read on himself is.


and im still waiting on your answer to literally lying 7 times because u forgot *cough* didn't read the thread.

Everyone can remember the 7 votes being on me until scott claimed tracker and then damdred counterclaiming so all you're doing is distracting from your own lies.

scott claiming tracker had absolutely nothing to do with me being lynched, i don't even know why you're nit picking over timestamps?

Whereas you just totally missed tons of information , like not knowing rsoultin was a lynch candidate when she was up for for hours, with Trfel. It looked like she would be lynched.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 22:33 GMT
#2776
the timestamp isnt even the same, 5:11 the votes and 5:39 where scott claimed
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 22:34 GMT
#2780
On October 02 2015 07:30 Damdred wrote:
Why should,I be scum tl

you counterclaimed and you're not dead with no reads and not even a roleblock claim
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 22:36 GMT
#2782
im gonna ignore rayn, i clearly had 7 votes and was going to be lynched day 1 until the scott/damdred claim / cc.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 22:46 GMT
#2796
hes pushing me because i caught him in like 4 lies , read my filter
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 22:47 GMT
#2798
its really dumb how he can just yell and aggravate the entire town whenever he wants.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 22:48 GMT
#2799
On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece.

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On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread.

i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way.

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On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).


My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch.

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On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival.


Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game.

I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute.

I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him.

Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw.



I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now.

this is why rayn is pushing me btw rsoultin
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 22:53 GMT
#2806
can you stop with the insults and yelling and cursing ? all that type of behavior does is benefit mafia
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 00:18 GMT
#2869
i think at least 2/3 mafia members are accusing me , keep that in mind for the rest of this day.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 00:25 GMT
#2870
If im lynched and mafia hits it will be 6v3 possibly 5v3 , then possibly game over with one more mislynch.

i really think shining argument that lynching me to get information is a bad one, and mafia has power roles as well, so they will likely figure out the blue role in that time period.

lynching me for information for 3 perfect lynches is improbable, i doubt my death would glean that much information as there were 7 votes on me ,, hmm 2 of the voters who were on me did die so theres that.

anyway I think the huge bandwagon here and from last day means mafia is out to get me
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 00:38 GMT
#2873
and rayn was accusing me for voting scott, which i find to be really forced. I think shining hopped onto that as well, you guys said he was obviously town but just take a look into that as well
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 00:43 GMT
#2876
how is rsoultin never being a lynch target true? Buzz off already, spamming = mafia tactic
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 01:00 GMT
#2881
Stop spamming thread please, thanks.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 01:01 GMT
#2882
You've yet to answer my several accusations so why should i humor your one? You're just very upset and looking for any reason to attack me, which is very offputting for me and everyone else in this game. So stop.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 01:03 GMT
#2883
And i've already answered anyway, ridiculous.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 01:06 GMT
#2886
I already have and anyone else can see that in my filter, so bye.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 01:07 GMT
#2888
If you want to accuse me , try doing it with logic and not just empty yelling and cursing.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 01:14 GMT
#2891
On October 02 2015 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the next time do never attack someone who has a burning passion to solve the game. With fucking lies.
Don't act cocky towards them, because you will get what you deserve.
When they are being reasonable, do not... again... act cocky.
Even when you are mafia. That's why you get lynched today and noone will miss you, even your mafia team won't.

All i did was accuse you with arguments stating you were mafia. It's not my fault if u take it personally. Im playing the game whereas you're just screaming. And still are.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 01:19 GMT
#2894
Anyway this is a waste of time. one piece of advice for you is don't take this online behavior to real life. you don't know who has nothing to lose.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 01:38 GMT
#2897
So damdred was roleblocked, but wouldn't it have been more likely if he was tracker to just powershot him? Im not sure how the balance works but im thinking 2 blue roles is max ?
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 01:39 GMT
#2898
he also had the earlier burst of anger in the game which was pretty suspicious
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 02:29 GMT
#2917
Btw its better if you don't focus on me and find other people you think are mafia at this point
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 02:46 GMT
#2929
so there was someone who said i was role hunting 101 with my Can medics heal themselves question do u guys remember who that was? look into him. I wasn't role hunting btw, i was actually trying to look like a medic , probably shouldn't have done that but o well. I swore it was the shining but i cant find it lol

and rayn and GB i have decent arguments in my filter on these two.

GL !

coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 02:54 GMT
#2931
Anyways im kind of really stressed and theres no other candidate aside from me. I guess i could try to solve the game, ill compile some stuff i have but its true in a huge 147 page filter like this , ppl do forget stuff and i doubt anyone has that good memory playing a drinking mafia game lol. After today rayn seemed legit angry at me, so i think hes town. before it seemed he was faking the anger for misdirection.

I noticed the shining and LS have the lowest page filters. this could make sense as mafia is probably very delighted , if i flip town it paints rayn and GB etc moreso, so perhaps they are just sitting back, relaxing lurking in the shadows.

And the whole 7=3 thing is dumb anyways because i already stated i was busy , so i skimmed over it. I still think i wasnt lying or anything but i might have been.

and i didnt really think damdred was mafia but he must be
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 02:57 GMT
#2932
Just start to think, Well when coolTLname flips town, who is painted mafia? if u get a head start now, u could possibly win.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 02:58 GMT
#2933
sorry for not playing better but i think i did alright.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 03:02 GMT
#2936
i wouldve been lynched day 1 given my playstyle over rsoultin, so really i accomplished what i wanted as lynching VT isnt that bad. But then scott had to roleclaim.. really badly? (i dont know) So u can't really blame me for that. Theres a lot of hate in my direction but .. that wasn't my fault
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 03:04 GMT
#2938
yeah i have to admit i reported him like twice now lol
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 03:05 GMT
#2939
its really hard to make reads and say stuff with the anger being thrown at u. im no monk
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 03:06 GMT
#2940
feel free to ask any questions
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 03:15 GMT
#2943
i still think GB is maf , same reasons as before.

i honestly havent had the energy or time (defending myself) to read other people.

i believe trfels story

i dont agree with this guy
On September 30 2015 12:05 sicklucker wrote:
shining is so town it hurts. never seen him post before let alone a post that big when he bizzy

i suspect shining. shouldnt u think the opposite? or at least 50-50

Im gnona find whoever posted the role hunting 101 thing and anaylze him,

And the voting thread, i suppose it was odd the votes were tied 4-4 and that makes my hard claim of rsoultin look bad but i had many reasons , like rsoultin not voting trfel , being very actively reading , and even looked up her past 2 games where she was just flirty and not useful as mafia.

and the ppl i suspected, GB and rayn were voting AND they were just very silent, like they felt very relaxed and didn't care. Anyway like i said i eliminated rayn so that leaves GB. I read that GB usually posts like a crack addict, but he doesnt done anything, YET hes clearly been .. here the whole time. the way he voted and his poor conclusions and reads make me suspect him. And shortly after he received 3 votes a HUGE train came upon me of like 7 ppl.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 03:18 GMT
#2944
he even claimed roleblocker night 1 , btw. And damdred is roleblocked all of a sudden.

so i guess my onnly real read is GB right now. And whoever said i was role hunting 101 with the "can medics heal themselves" question is my #2 suspect
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 03:18 GMT
#2945
because mafia would be thinking.. Hey is this guy actually the medic?? so they would notice that post
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 03:23 GMT
#2947
well he posted it to accuse me of role hunting , which is benefit to mafia if im lynched. if so its def A mistake though, i agree
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 03:24 GMT
#2948
On September 29 2015 07:32 GlowingBear wrote:
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On September 29 2015 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote sicklucker
goodnight


Hi rayn!

You look scummy

Let's talk

so they never talked in thread after this comment, because they can just talk to each other as mafia buddies

On September 29 2015 17:54 GlowingBear wrote:
- Here is my problem with Damdred:

He has an opening requesting a town friend. For me, it looked like a simple post, nothing into it. Truffle asked a question and he answered like it was some kind of bait (mafia would be scared to hard align with him? Lol)

Ok, then I asked what he got out of his bait, more than once. He never answered it directly. He has yet to explain WHAT the bait was and WHAT READS he got from it. He avoids answering this. He actually avoids any kind of question/pressuring, which is usually damdy's scum trait

- My problem with truffle is:

He came to the game really try hard - but his quearions are off. They usually don't have follow ups and I've caught him asking questions just to ask. For example, he asked a question to Damdred "why didn't you put 'town' as a requisition to be your friend?". Damdred answer, truffle never followed up. When I asked what truffle was expecting with that question he said he had no idea. When I asked what he got, he said nothing. Well, why did he ask the question then? I mean, I will usually ask things to further investigate someone's alignment and the answer provided will make me more certain of a read or uncertain. It doesn't seems that truffle was really caring to clarify something or to unveil Damdred's alignment. It just sounded like he wanted to look he was trying to produce content, which looks scummy


God isnt that really fucking hard to read? It's like he doesnt even care if someone reads it or if it contributes. Unconscious MAFIA tell
On September 30 2015 18:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Here is where I'm at:

Rels
Sicklucker


Scott
Rsoultin
Rayn
LS
Marv
TheShining


Moosy
CoolTL
Damdred
Truffle


Also he has a town read on rels and sicklurker yet TRUFFLE is super mafia scum? @_@

On October 01 2015 00:15 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 01 2015 00:11 Rels wrote:
On September 29 2015 19:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdy you only had marv going against you about a thing you call a misphrase. I am going against you because you haven't clarified the bait thing yet.

This over emotional reaction reeks Mafia from you. If you're town then you should really consider stop playing because there is nothing more natural in this game than being called Mafia.

@GB: I've heard multiple times that emo Damdred = town, robot Damdred = mafia. Where is your Damdred meta coming from ?


Hi

I've played with Damdred a lot of times and it's not really meta. It's just I have seen Mafia damdred dismissing pushes on him.

The emotional damded I have seen is the "aw, I don't like this game" instead of "fuck you fuck you all"

Damdred is (was) one of the kindest people I have played with. I don't seem him doing this genuinely


Isnt this just a flat out lie ? I've heard from other people in this thread this is not the case.

On September 29 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote:
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On September 29 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.

Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny

and like walks

Please apply for my townfriend

i have a good voice, maybe?
i might be funny.
i enjoy walks.

enough?


Rayn who is with you in your scum qt?


On September 29 2015 23:10 GlowingBear wrote:
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On September 29 2015 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gotta go buy some beer for sauna, be back in ~15.


This is the weirdest sentence I have read in a while

Hes noticed weird things about Rayn and even calls him scummy, yet he doesn't think hes scum at all and openly agrees with him on votes , etc . They communication seems overly friendly, and he defends rayn even, against me .
On October 01 2015 00:56 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 01 2015 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
just ignore the parts about rayn but the LIST by gb is very suspicious bc its bad lol

On October 01 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
I just can't argue more than I did anymore.

let's be honest you haven't argued shit about lynching Trfel after the first 4h into the game..


He hasn't posted anymore?

So are you willing to listen to me now?

???????????????????????? mafia slip ?

i noticed they usually post at the same time, and so far theyve been accusing everybody but each other, at least with actual quotes and logic etc
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 03:25 GMT
#2949
Uhh ignore the rayn stuff, just look at that list GB posted , its rly bad therefore suspicious , also i typed this somewhere above on accident lol
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 03:34 GMT
#2951
Wait it jsut occured to me that Marv would have been killed for a reason. I think u all assume .. well fuck it marvs rly good but he might have said something that really incriminated mafia so they killed him off. Regardless there must be a reason they thought he was so smart to kill n1, he proved it somehow
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 03:37 GMT
#2952
On October 01 2015 07:19 GlowingBear wrote:
I am lynching cool TL

I am lynching Damdred if he doesn't die tonight

So fucking unpleasant

On October 01 2015 07:20 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 01 2015 07:18 Damdred wrote:
I'm upset with balance and now I'm going to die,


If you're town you have no idea if the balance is okay

I'm also lynching rsoultin

this lynch order is fairly incriminating
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 03:47 GMT
#2954
On October 01 2015 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 01 2015 11:43 Trfel wrote:
Marvellosity is more than capable of playing like this as mafia, and that would very nicely explain a lot of things, but after rolling mafia last game that just feels so unlikely that I think I'm willing to ignore that possibility for now.



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On October 01 2015 23:36 Trfel wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:25 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:23 Trfel wrote:
On October 01 2015 17:55 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 11:43 Trfel wrote:

Marvellosity is more than capable of playing like this as mafia, and that would very nicely explain a lot of things, but after rolling mafia last game that just feels so unlikely that I think I'm willing to ignore that possibility for now.


Prove this shit-tastic statement please.

find one game as mafia where i play *remotely* similar to this.

otherwise your opinions are basically worthless piles of crap because you're just saying things that i already know are blatantly false.

i want you to actually go find a game where i did anything remotely similar to this game.

off you toddle now.
I could look through the entire database to try and find a game.

But that's pointless? There's no reason why you couldn't play like this. You know that you generally don't aggressively push a read early on as mafia, you said it yourself. But there's nothing that actually stops you from doing that, other than effort.

no, i am completely incapable because i have a million mafia games and have tried to replicate such things before.

i've been playing pretty constantly for 3 and a half years and come nowhere near managing it.

why on earth do you think i could suddenly manage it now?
I am not sure what you are talking about?

I'm referring to the part where you made an early push on rsoultin and said that you'd never ever done an early push as mafia. There is zero reason why you couldn't do an early push as mafia, if I am capable of it, then you are definitely capable of it.

I find these 2 posts together extremely suspicious indeed

On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 02 2015 00:02 Trfel wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
post 1 suggests that my entire play could come from mafia

post 2 Trfel backtracks and says it's referring to a tiny portion at the start?

it really makes no sense at all to me
There was a specific part of your play where you said "I never do this as mafia". I'm saying that there is absolutely no reason why you couldn't, it would be easy to do.

As for the rest of your play, you are capable of a high filter length as mafia. I see no reason why you couldn't produce an extremely high filter length in a really spammy game, if you really wanted to. If you're referring to thread involvement, I don't see you being involved to the point where you can't be mafia.

the fact you're characterising my play by filter length is pretty scummy tbh.

On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
i want to lynch Trfel.

i don't believe he can believe what he is saying.

page 129 130 he goes after trfel
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 03:51 GMT
#2955
On October 02 2015 05:06 Rels wrote:
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On October 02 2015 04:04 coolTLname wrote:
On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece.

On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread.

i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way.

On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).


My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch.

On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival.


Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game.

I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute.

I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him.

Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw.



I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now.


Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia

Glowing bear u should know better of all people, why would u even say this ? It is quite ridiculous, we all know mafia does not read the thread. Why would a townie not read the thread?

OK rayn you were right he is a fucking smurf. We lynch him

so i think this is the worst reason to lynch me, everyone else had decent reasons
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 04:08 GMT
#2958
On October 02 2015 13:00 rsoultin wrote:
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On October 02 2015 12:51 coolTLname wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:06 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 04:04 coolTLname wrote:
On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece.

On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread.

i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way.

On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).


My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch.

On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival.


Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game.

I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute.

I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him.

Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw.



I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now.


Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia

Glowing bear u should know better of all people, why would u even say this ? It is quite ridiculous, we all know mafia does not read the thread. Why would a townie not read the thread?

OK rayn you were right he is a fucking smurf. We lynch him

so i think this is the worst reason to lynch me, everyone else had decent reasons


do you think rels is mafia for this, though?

no i dont know enough. Anyway i literally just read from night 1 and i could not find that fucking role hunting 101 person. Fuck it mustve been when i racked up 7 votes. Ughhhhhhh oh well i need to read anyway
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 04:10 GMT
#2959
ima start with the guy who role claimd mafia at the beginning. u adrenaline junkies probably love doing something like that.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 04:19 GMT
#2961
Yes Gb as mafia can RB u and keep u alive to be lynched day 3. If theres not a likely third blue, then mafia can powershot u as they please. For now you are another useful vote onto me as well.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 04:21 GMT
#2962
But anyway GB said u were town so he will likely go after rsoultin , or whoever they can get. I dont think i excluded you from my suspicions though? lemme check i forgot honestly , just read like 50 pages
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 04:22 GMT
#2963
On October 02 2015 12:29 rsoultin wrote:
i remember this post vaguely. you've posted it before, haven't you? nothing's happened between then and now?

well thers been 100 million posts so i thought it would be helpful to repost
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 04:28 GMT
#2964
" This shot may be used at day or night" maybe theyre just gonna shoot u during the day for some reason? Beats me. Im 65-35? in favor of lynching you damdred.. if you're the tracker i think this will just be a super easy win for mafia =x
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 04:32 GMT
#2965
and mafia can still hold their kp and be like x is mafia !! then triple kill for the win lolz
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 04:44 GMT
#2967
bc u can just say u were rbd? and now theres a mislynch, with another mislynch likely to come up marv is still dead and u have another powershot for the last blue. speaking of which GB defended u

On October 01 2015 07:35 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 01 2015 07:35 Damdred wrote:
Well Idk what scum motivation is if I'm scum going 1 for 1 is always town favored not scum favored. So Idk why I'm automatically scum for thinking it's highly suspicious if not unlikely that two roles exist like that


Ok you're town, just kill cool TL name tomorrow


right before he said this
On October 01 2015 07:19 GlowingBear wrote:
I am lynching cool TL

I am lynching Damdred if he doesn't die tonight

So fucking unpleasant

coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 04:46 GMT
#2968
after your attempt at misdirection and u probably wanted me to say " well durr i guess if i was mafia u would have wanted to save me from being lynched" then when i flip town u are in the clear~! case of TMI anyone ?

now its 80:20
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 04:49 GMT
#2970
and i got the feeling you didn't want to do it, then suddenly rayn was like HES COUNTER CLAIMING so u just went with it.
which. would. mean. i suspect. rayn. again. fuck. Nvm that shit aint happening i give up good night
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 04:59 GMT
#2974
in my world i make perfect sense. Ba dum tss. Good night
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 05:07 GMT
#2986
On October 02 2015 14:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 02 2015 12:04 coolTLname wrote:
yeah i have to admit i reported him like twice now lol

well this is going to be really funny if an action is take n on this.
because i believe you made an indirect threat on my life, which i did consider not serious. maybe i should as it seems like you are serious after all...

let's see what kinda shitfest we can get out of this.

it was just advice bro. it was actually sincere advice, believe it or not. im stressed due to my personal life, and anger triggers anger towards my parents and myself , so forth. i sympathize with you as we are kind of the same, although i admit i did want u modkilled i just like winning. Anyway now that i think you're town, Lets ignore all that
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 05:10 GMT
#2988
On October 02 2015 14:03 Trfel wrote:
To be honest I might just want to lynch coolTLname because he is being so obstructive to the thread that even if he's town lynching him could be good.

CoolTLname, angering raynpelikoneet is not a good strategy. If he is mafia, there is no point arguing with him, since he's mafia and he doesn't believe what he's saying; he knows that you are right. All you're doing is filling the thread with useless words. Spend your time talking to other people instead. If he is town, then it's even worse because you're making two (presumably) townies very mad at each other for filling the thread with stuff that is nowhere near catching mafia.

There's just no point to do it regardless of raynpelikoneet's alignment.

No i actually had some pointers day 1 , but i admit my anger clouded that judgement. it was only after rsoultin mentioned .. well this is actually a pretty big fucking thread that i changed my mind about all the things he missed in thread.

besides this post in of itself is obstructive, im already going to be lynched, just ignore me and focus on other leads
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 05:11 GMT
#2991
On October 02 2015 14:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 02 2015 14:07 coolTLname wrote:
On October 02 2015 14:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 12:04 coolTLname wrote:
yeah i have to admit i reported him like twice now lol

well this is going to be really funny if an action is take n on this.
because i believe you made an indirect threat on my life, which i did consider not serious. maybe i should as it seems like you are serious after all...

let's see what kinda shitfest we can get out of this.

it was just advice bro. it was actually sincere advice, believe it or not. im stressed due to my personal life, and anger triggers anger towards my parents and myself , so forth. i sympathize with you as we are kind of the same, although i admit i did want u modkilled i just like winning. Anyway now that i think you're town, Lets ignore all that

fine, let's not ignore the fact you are mafia.
at least you are not going to convince me you are not in this game ergardless of what you do.
period.

look theres pretty much already majority vote on me, just ignore me and focus on finding mafia. If possible, experiment around with the possibly that i will flip town, or try to find leads that arent associated with me
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 05:13 GMT
#2992
And i apologize for calling you mafia , im new to this game so what may be convincing to me , might not really be convincing at all. regardless i still try to play at least
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 20:08 GMT
#3232
Its not really useful to town to have rayn and me fighting. and Rels , lynching me because u think im "not a newbie" is pretty forced. GB tried to mass accuse 3 people before me, and someone posted he likes to do this for tells, so that is why i posted that.

shining Im already going to be lynched, Can u stop focusing on me and find other mafia ?

Try to assume that i will flip town at least 50% of the time , most of the discussion like, "who was the first to bus cool" is really useless, as marv the best player on this site said, mafia wouldnt bus day 1

Also note that a huge bandwagon fell upon me after GB started to rack up 3 votes. This didnt happened when trfel or rsoultin were tied at 4, but when GB fell under suspicion
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 20:18 GMT
#3235
doesnt matter , but flipping for information is dumb , slight mafia tell.

btw i noticed rels voted Trfel, then Rsoultin , then me after GB was voted up( GB and rels were on me first)
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 20:22 GMT
#3237
so i posted this after my can doc heals themselves question
On September 30 2015 11:16 sicklucker wrote:
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On September 29 2015 17:08 coolTLname wrote:
Uh anyway i've been looking at sicklurker. For some reason i thought he was blue but hes been spewing tons of nonsense, he claims hes "drinking" and he seems sad i guess, but even more reason to post something meaningful .. @_@

marvelous would be mafia if hes good in other games, i guess i should check.



role hunting 101


I think mafia is more likely to notice this , and it appears my dumbtell worked (although maybe a little too well =( )
Anyways i was hoping to get shot by pretending to be medic lol

On September 29 2015 07:27 sicklucker wrote:
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On September 29 2015 07:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hi sl did you roll mafia again?


yes


i think mafia would do this for fun lol. adrenaline junkies
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 20:24 GMT
#3238
also sicklucker was making some good reads early, but then he started spewing nonsense, then claimed he was sick and sleeping for 16 hours. which i didnt really believe. And he was drinking while he was sick to numb da pain.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 20:32 GMT
#3241
or hes just writing stuff to seem active.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 02 2015 20:57 GMT
#3245
Anyway im playing some sc2 mafia to relax lol, this shit is intense. What do u guys do for a living , im curious
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 00:14 GMT
#3307
can we stop talking about me. pick ppl who u think are mafia and assume im town , sometimes
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 00:25 GMT
#3310
whatever im not gonna try to defend myself for another 100 pages of rayn spam. Cya
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 01:52 GMT
#3336
On October 03 2015 09:57 rsoultin wrote:
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On October 03 2015 09:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 03 2015 09:40 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1. he says you're lying because trfel and i were lynch targets. in context you clearly meant that there was no time where scott, cool and i were the main wagons at the same time, however you post doesn't actually say that. this looks like a simple misunderstanding

Don't be an idiot. The conversation i had, where the post is taken, is ALL ABOUT "scott, cool and rsoultin being the main wagons".... -> not reading the thread.

2. this is certainly untrue. it's also easily explained by seeing the votes after the fact with no timestamps, btw

pretty clear shit.

3. he really did never say anything about wanting to be voted down over scott, so yes, you got that wrong and that would appear to be a lie to him

oh but he did.


i just read his filter rayn @.@ from top to bottom

quote it or let it go

He says he wanted to get lynced. That's what he said. Later on he says he didn't want to get lynched over scott (who was the opposing wagon) because he suspected scott. But he never suspected scott. In fact he suspected ME the most, and i was pushing scott's lynch ALL D1. So i find it really hard to believe what he is saying.


okay this is a good point thank you lol >< finally something that makes sense to me to actually scumread him for

you're right; he never mentions scott before this, and he appears to actually be townreading j roc prior to the replacement

bc scott played totally different from j roc, when he posted his list of suspicions , the list was just off and he was just super afk, then posted a big list. And i said somewhat suspicious. rayn is just either tunneling hard or yeah i dont really like mafia if u can just spam and be angry to win, thats a really stupid game, where it clearly says in the rules, don't be a dick.
Ive caught rayn in numerous lies and hes just tunneling hard on me because hes angry and super narcissistic , so he will never refute his claims.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 01:54 GMT
#3337
Peace, im done seeing another post from him and i doubt ill play another mafia game. stop focusing on me, when we have literally every townie afk they arent gonna bother to change their minds , none of them have even remotely suggested other leads.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:04 GMT
#3631
Oh god , rels is scum reading me for the worst reasons. First it was because im a smurf LOL? i think everyone here would laugh at that. and then Im a lurker reader? Do u even know how boring just reading a game is? I admit i have tried it , but barely got past 1 page.

LS seemed pretty relax when i posted earlier about what ppl do for a living , he was like Yeapp i was watching worlds and shit..

GB is super chill

and it would be super sick if SL was mafia but i think i just want that to be true so i wont comment

And the damdred CC is still pretty suspicious, he also just pops in and out while always being present in thread, not sure if thats obvious from just reading his filter.

I'd say Rels damdred and GB

and if rayn is scum then.. not sure GB and damdred?

coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:06 GMT
#3633
the reason i say rayn is scum is because of this post i made earlier, and notice he goes OFF after this post, which i suspected him off covering up.

On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece.

On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread.

i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way.

On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).


My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch.

On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:
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On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival.


Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game.

I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute.

I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him.

Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw.



I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:09 GMT
#3635
Ive somewhat changed my mind based on what other people have said in this thread, and because i was pissed off, but now that i think about it, these things are just blatantly wrong , even for a huge thread lol.

And oh god in world where rsoultin is mafia too? that thought crossed my mind , rsoultin would be the TMI case here since shes been defending me super hard, and shes been clouded my judgement against rayn, as well

Anyway im done im interested in what people think of that post i made on rayn and his blatant lies, otherwise im not interested in another spam fest from rayn
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:14 GMT
#3637
To summarize: Rsoultin me and scott were definately lynch targets, rayn says they were not,

He says GB was the primary lynch target, which he was never( max 3 votes)

, and i was voted because of damdreds counter claim, not because of scotts claim, which rayn says scott claim was the reason for lynching me.

AND THEN HE GOES OFF LIKE A MADMEN, I said i didn't suspect him and stop arguing and apologized even, just to benefit town. His spam does not help, but this one post i made, in addition to him going super, dare i say well played angry, makes sense.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:16 GMT
#3639
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".


Come on. Are you serious? I had 7 votes, scott was actually lynched and rsoultin was being pushed for HOURS , primary lynch target over Trfel. LOOK AT THIS .
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:23 GMT
#3647
On October 04 2015 04:18 rsoultin wrote:
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On October 04 2015 04:16 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".


Come on. Are you serious? I had 7 votes, scott was actually lynched and rsoultin was being pushed for HOURS , primary lynch target over Trfel. LOOK AT THIS .


cool

rayn was saying we were never the main lynch targets at the same time, because ls was saying we were the ones to decide between

what he said is true

drop this

then he could have easily just said this instead of just flaming me for 4 hours, town would explain, mafia would derail
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:24 GMT
#3648
rayn mafia MVP
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:27 GMT
#3652
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

who was blatantly lying then rayn?
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:29 GMT
#3655
Bro if you're town just explain in 10 seconds, its a huge thread with 100 pages at the time, 200 now. And i had to defend myself for most of it.

Anyway i was wrong, sorry.

Now explain your case on lightning-strike, because that was a good post
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:30 GMT
#3656
On October 04 2015 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 04 2015 04:27 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

who was blatantly lying then rayn?

you were
or either
you were not reading the thread

as i clearly said

no you made that post to incriminate
On October 01 2015 18:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because it makes no sense.
Put these two together:
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On October 01 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Holy shit so many pages to read. Luckily I finally got back early from lab so I'm here right now I see we lynching either scott, rsoultin, and coolTLname. I really torn because I still think Tina is town scott I had nullish and coolTLname seems like a odd ball guy. So who you guys thin is the best lynch between Scott or coolTLname?


at the same time, in the voting thread:
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On October 01 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Day 1 Recall List


rsoultin (2): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, , Rels, scott31337,
GlowingBear (2): Damdred, coolTLname
Trfel (2): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
coolTLname (5): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy
marvellosity (0): Damdred,
scott31337 (1): marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker

Not listing (1): rsoultin,

Like where does he get this? Not from the voting thread.
Also not from the thread either.

I am just asking, where?


page for reference http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=124
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:33 GMT
#3665
Anyway with that statement ill probably retract my rsoultin crazy mafia claim lol

Anyone think its odd for what rels is focusing on me for ? smurfing and .. lurker.. reading? note that GB defends him for "filter diving"

Rayn what will u think of rsoultin when i flip town? Also if i flip town, mafia could possibly make a case against you
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:35 GMT
#3668
On October 01 2015 07:22 The Shining wrote:
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On October 01 2015 07:19 GlowingBear wrote:
I am lynching cool TL

I am lynching Damdred if he doesn't die tonight

So fucking unpleasant


I'm on this ship, too. CoolTLs last minute ninja votes to try and get onto Scott after giving up before that like classic demotivated scum is just horrible. Fuck.

Speaking of shining, i think this post (right after day 1 lynch) is suspicious . Seems like fake anger.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:37 GMT
#3672
Yeah i read moosy as town, but now im reading him as mafia trying way too hard to LOOK town, while not really contributing much i say that because he basically went completely A WOL as scott and me are getting lynched, SUPER CHILL MAFIA BABY ~ The biggest thing u guys can do for urself is look at this as if im town.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:46 GMT
#3686
On October 01 2015 18:42 marvellosity wrote:
coolTLname was always one of the primary lynch targets?

like did he ever have less than 4-5 votes in the last couple hours

he was the primary lynch target before we started shifting over to scott, and he still was even then

Anyway in my last horrah of a defense , the argument against me that i haven't been reading thread is wrong. I may have misunderstood some things, Just like Marv did ! but ive clearly shown that i know exactly what has happened in this thread.

the whole scott thinig is moot because i was afk the last hour of the game , and who wouldnt vote to save themselves, Like think about it, i know im town, and a ton of ppl are voting up scott so.. does him being suspicious even matter?

I did not see the whole claim and counterclaim as i voted, but if i did i wouldve voted WAY sooner. Actually my vote didn't even count because i was late. (cuz i alrdy gave up an didnt care) Mafia would have made sure their vote would go in , before deadline.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:51 GMT
#3690
aside from not knowing game irreverent information, (lets be real the whole time of scott claim and number of votes on me ? )

i've clearly shown a deep understanding as far as what's been being said in this game. Honestly i think i have the thread more memorized than anyone playing this game.

The TMI analysis on me, I dont agree with because im new for one so i dont even know what that meant

and i had decent evidence on rsoultin like her not voting for trfel , past game history as mafia etc. I mean to convince other people you have to be convinced yourself, right? Even if i was not 100% convinced rsoultin was town, i still think this is a bad mislynch so im gonna be like YEAH STOP VOTING RSOULTIN 100% TOWN U FUCKING IDIOTS

Its for political reasons not TMI reasons
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:52 GMT
#3691
On October 04 2015 04:47 rsoultin wrote:
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On October 04 2015 04:46 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 18:42 marvellosity wrote:
coolTLname was always one of the primary lynch targets?

like did he ever have less than 4-5 votes in the last couple hours

he was the primary lynch target before we started shifting over to scott, and he still was even then

Anyway in my last horrah of a defense , the argument against me that i haven't been reading thread is wrong. I may have misunderstood some things, Just like Marv did ! but ive clearly shown that i know exactly what has happened in this thread.

the whole scott thinig is moot because i was afk the last hour of the game , and who wouldnt vote to save themselves, Like think about it, i know im town, and a ton of ppl are voting up scott so.. does him being suspicious even matter?

I did not see the whole claim and counterclaim as i voted, but if i did i wouldve voted WAY sooner. Actually my vote didn't even count because i was late. (cuz i alrdy gave up an didnt care) Mafia would have made sure their vote would go in , before deadline.


it matters that you said scott was suspicious and now you're saying that's not actually why you voted him, yes

i still thought he was suspicious because i think big lists are suspicious when ur mostly afk thats basically it. He read me scum so obviously, being town i think thats odd. I think he read someone as town for the same reason he read me scum as well.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:53 GMT
#3694
BUT THE TIMESTAMP of scotts claim AND THE NUMBER OF VOTES ON ME IS IRRELEVANT GAME INFORMATION. I doubt anyone here wouldve known that!
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:54 GMT
#3697
GB rels , i HOPE its you bc then my psychoanalysis would be awesome but otherwise i dont have a case against u lol

and the damdred CC im still @_@ on

LS seems way too aloof , watching worlds, claiming VT when theres a powershot,
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:57 GMT
#3699
On October 04 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 04 2015 04:51 coolTLname wrote:
aside from not knowing game irreverent information, (lets be real the whole time of scott claim and number of votes on me ? )

i've clearly shown a deep understanding as far as what's been being said in this game. Honestly i think i have the thread more memorized than anyone playing this game.

The TMI analysis on me, I dont agree with because im new for one so i dont even know what that meant

and i had decent evidence on rsoultin like her not voting for trfel , past game history as mafia etc. I mean to convince other people you have to be convinced yourself, right? Even if i was not 100% convinced rsoultin was town, i still think this is a bad mislynch so im gonna be like YEAH STOP VOTING RSOULTIN 100% TOWN U FUCKING IDIOTS

Its for political reasons not TMI reasons

If you have the thread memorized so well, why don't you go back and pull up evidence? You should know where they are. Instead of always going "I think" "maybe" "possibly" and changing your reads all the time.

I have been, for you i dont need to, bc ppl can just read your filter without context because you just analysis ed a bunch of people without pushing them, changing reads instead. Like ur the opposite of rayn which is also bad. Rayn is a necessary evil but unfortunately hes wrong this time.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 19:58 GMT
#3702
ALSO IM TIRED
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 20:00 GMT
#3706
20% of my posts are quotes like this , mostly earlier on. I have been, but sure ill say i could do more like re read day 1 to night 1 and piece together stuff. WHICH IM DOING but it'll take me like 30 minutes at least so id rather do that before deadline and just see where this conversation goes
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 20:02 GMT
#3708
On October 04 2015 04:59 Damdred wrote:
Still haven't explained why I'm scum on any reasonable world.

Onto shining, if you've played with shining before it doesn't really matter how much work he does because he's always going to be hit and miss on the activity front its just the way it is.

And I don't think its compelling at all, and he did a decent amount d1 in a small time span he wasn't super active for the first like 30 hours of the game or something. So its all pretty much in line.

Burst of anger at beginning, Counterclaim shady, Being present in thread yet not contributing anything especially day 2
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 20:04 GMT
#3714
On October 02 2015 11:31 The Shining wrote:
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On October 02 2015 10:47 Damdred wrote:
How about use real reasons to scum read me instead of wifom to the first part and actual reasons for the second.


Lol that lurk tho

coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 20:06 GMT
#3717
On October 04 2015 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 05:02 coolTLname wrote:
On October 04 2015 04:59 Damdred wrote:
Still haven't explained why I'm scum on any reasonable world.

Onto shining, if you've played with shining before it doesn't really matter how much work he does because he's always going to be hit and miss on the activity front its just the way it is.

And I don't think its compelling at all, and he did a decent amount d1 in a small time span he wasn't super active for the first like 30 hours of the game or something. So its all pretty much in line.

Burst of anger at beginning, Counterclaim shady, Being present in thread yet not contributing anything especially day 2

His counterclaim is shady only if you are mafia. 100%.

except he didnt get powershot, possibly of 2 trackers , GB claiming roleblocker then backing off (idk what this means actually )

Yes and u seem to think im mafia 100% so why arent u pushing damdred like a motherfucking train?

coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 20:08 GMT
#3721
I know! its because underneath all your anger, you actually think i could be town and ur waiting until i flip to save energy. :D
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 20:11 GMT
#3729
On October 04 2015 05:08 Damdred wrote:
Idk how you can say I'm not doing some things? I'm just not involved in pointless bickering I suppose.

Yeah well when the whole town thinks im mafia i guess they can kind of chill. Rsoultin and Trfel think im town, and theyve been frantically active. So i give bonus townie points to these two. Anyway i think deadline is couple hours so i will break then come back with some analysis

GL, u will need 3 perfect lynches to win imo
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 20:12 GMT
#3731
On October 04 2015 05:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 04 2015 05:08 coolTLname wrote:
I know! its because underneath all your anger, you actually think i could be town and ur waiting until i flip to save energy. :D

If you're alive, you're a liability to town.

Also find it funny that you're the sc2mafia role mechanics dude and you don't know what a roleblocker is.

never said that, i just dont know what it MEANS for GB to claim then back off. and there may or may not be a roleblocker in the game
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 20:14 GMT
#3733
On October 04 2015 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 04 2015 05:06 coolTLname wrote:
On October 04 2015 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 04 2015 05:02 coolTLname wrote:
On October 04 2015 04:59 Damdred wrote:
Still haven't explained why I'm scum on any reasonable world.

Onto shining, if you've played with shining before it doesn't really matter how much work he does because he's always going to be hit and miss on the activity front its just the way it is.

And I don't think its compelling at all, and he did a decent amount d1 in a small time span he wasn't super active for the first like 30 hours of the game or something. So its all pretty much in line.

Burst of anger at beginning, Counterclaim shady, Being present in thread yet not contributing anything especially day 2

His counterclaim is shady only if you are mafia. 100%.

except he didnt get powershot, possibly of 2 trackers , GB claiming roleblocker then backing off (idk what this means actually )

Yes and u seem to think im mafia 100% so why arent u pushing damdred like a motherfucking train?


Because in my world Damdred is not mafia anyways.

But in your world, like you probably assume you are town right?
scott was town.
Why does Damdred claim when you two are the only possible lynches? Town is gonna get lynched anyways.

For you there should be 0% reason to think Damdred is mafia jsut because you are supposed to know your own alignment. Not to even mention this is straight up "role interaction" where you are supposed to be "good at" because sc2mafia is nothing but THIS.

ive definitely never claimed to be good at sc2 mafia lol ive been playing lots for a couple weeks tho
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 20:16 GMT
#3735
its mostly bc of the powershot ability , sure there are many cases where mafia can choose not to use it, but not 0% like ur saying.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 20:17 GMT
#3737
like whats the percent chance of mafia RB
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 20:18 GMT
#3738
anyway brb , gl
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 20:21 GMT
#3746
and if i was mafia, wouldnt they just tell me to shut the fuck up after getting lynched day 1? Like if i was really that bad, as mafia, no one would want me to keep playing on their team. Like in poker, where u just muck your cards.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 20:21 GMT
#3747
On October 04 2015 05:19 Damdred wrote:
Like id wager 92%-98% very seldom does mafia not gave a rb

well i thought it was 30% so there u go
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 20:23 GMT
#3749
so can i join the obs qt after i die
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 20:24 GMT
#3751
and before u go OMG SMURF i had a qt shadow in student V so i know how to use QT
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:22 GMT
#3802
On October 04 2015 06:09 Rels wrote:
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On October 04 2015 06:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Meh we are definitely hitting a townie

Whatever

I don't think so

On October 04 2015 06:20 Rels wrote:
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On October 04 2015 06:18 Damdred wrote:
What changed gbs mind from hard scum reading cool to town reading him

The fact that everybody is OK lynching him, and that a bus for two days is unlikely

And u think a bus for two days is likely? A bus day 1 as well?
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:30 GMT
#3808
On October 04 2015 06:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Meh we are definitely hitting a townie

Whatever

case if tmi, if u even remotely thought this, u would behave the way rsoultin and trfel were behaving , frantic and upset at teh game. Not chill and Meh whatever
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:30 GMT
#3809
On October 04 2015 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 04 2015 05:58 Rels wrote:
On October 04 2015 05:57 sicklucker wrote:
On October 04 2015 05:50 Rels wrote:
On October 04 2015 05:47 sicklucker wrote:
On October 04 2015 05:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 04 2015 05:37 sicklucker wrote:
Now we justt gotta find the last one. in a coolt/trefel world a fake claiming dandred makes some sense which is why im curious of dandreds reaction here. but there is many other options

reeeeels


ya acualy its pretty much just rels because everyone else voted coolt ? who did you vote day 1 again

So I was the first to push and vote my teammate, and would have stayed here until the end when I had no way to know damdred would counter claim ? That's stupid


me and rayn were the first to push him. I love how you keep throwing that you were the first to vote him tho

Don't remember that, added to the to check pile

afaik i did never push coolTLname on D1.

i made a push on you and u totally ignore it, not sure about later but u were focused on J roc mostly for the first half at least
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:33 GMT
#3813
On October 04 2015 06:31 Damdred wrote:
Can we switch to GB? He says we are hitting a townie votes for that person and fucks off

another case of tmi, and im pretty sure ur convinced im mafia so ur only saying this cuz u know ill flip town
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:36 GMT
#3825
On October 04 2015 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
how do you even know what tmi means?

well i learned after having it be used on me like a million times
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:37 GMT
#3829
On October 04 2015 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 06:36 coolTLname wrote:
On October 04 2015 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
how do you even know what tmi means?

well i learned after having it be used on me like a million times

like where?

the rsoultin case where everyone is like U THINK SHES TOWN CUZ UR MAFIA WITH TMI U EVEN CHECKED HER GAMES BEFORE blah blah blah
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:40 GMT
#3836
Yeaah vote GB !!! But also look into moosy, ive be re reading day 1 ( ill post the compliation at the end so mafia doesnt muck with it , and its rather long lol )

Its mostly a summary so far
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:40 GMT
#3838
On October 04 2015 06:39 GlowingBear wrote:
I DON'T THINK COOL TL IS TOWN, I AM REACTION TESTING PEOPLE

I was trying to see if Mafia would take a chance to mislynch and blame me for it.

bullshit it was a case of TMI and now ur like OMG I WAS REACTION TESTING
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:41 GMT
#3844
if u really wanetd to "reaction test" u would have posted that A LONG ASS TIME AGO NOT 20 MINUTES BEFORE DEADLINE

also sorry for yelling but i am dying after all xD
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:43 GMT
#3847
well i got to page 42 here is a brief summary if by some miracle this helps me not get lynched

IGNORE IT FOR NOW

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=42

Hello guise, if you're reading this , it means im probably already dead. As your fellow Vanilla townie , i hope you trust my unbiased newbie opinions. actually this is mostly a summary lol no time

Rssoultin some town reads, mostly playful banter up to this point

Trfel, first person to suggest mafia and town reads
On September 29 2015 07:53 Trfel wrote:
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On September 29 2015 07:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Truffle, what do you make of the informstion already displayed in thread?
Town lean on you (GlowingBear)
Sort of town lean on LightningStrike
Sort of town lean on raynpelikoneet
Sort of mafia lean on rsoultin

I haven't been paying much attention, though. Going to go get dinner now, I'll actually read the thread sometime tonight....


J roc comes in with the misleading townie vibe , slanders people for attention and goes Nowatimsaying. air of confidence

Moosy comes in with an accusation on GB
On September 29 2015 08:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB's posts are strangely mechanical. There are a few with flavor but most of them are factory produced.


Its funny because moosy's accusation is basically what could be said about himself, a mechanical attack on GB to LOOK town.
Then he attacks rsoultin
On September 29 2015 08:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On September 29 2015 08:54 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:52 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:50 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:18 Damdred wrote:
Ls truffel and mooseybim really confident in being town. Moosey probably the weakest of those three.




You are being terrible tbh


terrible or scummy? terrible implies town and awesome

i'm definitely awesome

terrible in a scummy way. what time is it over there btw?


howso? and about 7ish

mmm...I don't see typical rsoul bubbliness or willingness to question things. Basically no indication you're looking into stuff.


These statements are like out of nowhere, its very early in the game. furthermore he flopping between them not pushing them at all for a real read.

On September 29 2015 10:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On September 29 2015 10:26 sicklucker wrote:
On September 29 2015 10:14 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 10:12 sicklucker wrote:
i like how no one even trys to read me anymore. That means im doing my job


you're not doing yourself any favors with posts like these


who cares they dont make me mafia

They don't make you townie.

You know what, I have a deep temptation to push for sicklucker's lynch. Do any of you feel it?

Why would u post this as townie, just push for the freaking lynch . As a newbie i think that if im saying this it must be really bad.

SL starts drinking. starts spewing random knowledge. Seems drunk.

damdred comes in with a list ( i hate big lists) logically seems fine

On September 29 2015 11:46 Damdred wrote:
1 rsoultin (Shadow: NocturneMage)
2 MoosyDoosy
3 Trfel
6 LightningStrike
9 sicklucker


4 GlowingBear
5 raynpelikoneet
7 Rels
8 marvellosity
10 J Roc
12 The Shining
13 coolTLname

I guess this is a fair split so far, i'll try to keep this updated with how I turn my reads and move people around. I'm open to questions about the top or bottom, J-ROC is sorta a fringe read currently, and the others are mostly afk. But i'm tempted to put shining in a do not lynch list just because he won't be playing till wensday I believe anyway. Which would mean I need to give Rayn more time as well which i'm ok doing.


and moosy posts about his sprained ankle before he retires

this is where i come in with my dumbtell, mafia should be like OMG A BLUE ROLE *foams at mouth*

coincidentally rels comes in at this time too, we are both a bit late to the thread.

he makes a really forced read on what i thought was just playful banter on GB LS and truffle
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=31 first few posts

rayn ignores my feeble attempt at accusing him, (i voted him too )

Ok So here is where damdred gets really mad, because of marv
On September 29 2015 18:39 marvellosity wrote:
i take it back, i would 100% lynch damdred


On September 29 2015 18:39 marvellosity wrote:
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On September 29 2015 12:38 Damdred wrote:
Let me break it down for you moosey,scum Marv can't be assed to defend himself and maybe incrimidate his partners if we load votes on him.

If he's town he cares 99999% more. So its better to figure it out at this poont

stupid, boring, incorrect meta

pathetic, damdred.


On September 29 2015 18:43 marvellosity wrote:
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On September 29 2015 18:39 marvellosity wrote:
On September 29 2015 12:38 Damdred wrote:
Let me break it down for you moosey,scum Marv can't be assed to defend himself and maybe incrimidate his partners if we load votes on him.

If he's town he cares 99999% more. So its better to figure it out at this poont

stupid, boring, incorrect meta

pathetic, damdred.

like honestly this is so bad Damdred should just give up mafia in shame.

it doesn't make sense.

the one way to make me angry/unproductive/whatever-negative-adjective-you-like is to pile votes up on me for no reason.

THAT'S meta.

On September 29 2015 18:44 marvellosity wrote:
Damdred should also know I never, ever, ever incriminate my partners, even when i have energy as mafia and i'm defending myself.

On September 29 2015 18:59 Damdred wrote:
Well fuck you to Marv, obviously you don't ibcrimidate your partners or defend yourself. Seriously shove it up your ass.

I try to always be polite to people, but you know what your right. I quit I won't play another mafia game after this one I've been debating for months about quitting and you get your wish. Over something I phrased badly.

Fuck you and fuck this game.


the rest is here if interested http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=34
On September 29 2015 19:06 marvellosity wrote:
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On September 29 2015 19:04 Damdred wrote:
Then vote me assholes, seriously fuck you both.

I'm so glad my mispgrase and me playing mafia is blatant shit and is warranted to tell me to quit playing mafia. Really glad

it's not a misphrase, you cow

everything you said was wrong


the way to read me town has never been to "pile votes on marv early". that's something only sicklucker says because he's sicklucker.

you should know a lot, lot, lot better than to think just voting for me is a productive use of time early d1. you really, really should.

having a massive strop about it doesn't make it any better either


On September 29 2015 19:18 marvellosity wrote:
like why is Moosy even voting for me? he outlines all the reasons i already vaguely alluded to about rsoultin, so he decides to vote the one player in the game who apparently shares his views on her?

why?

are people just insane?


GB defends moosy
On September 29 2015 20:27 GlowingBear wrote:
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On September 29 2015 12:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoul we have successfully filled 6 pages of the game with our argument. I feel rather accomplished. Do you?


Dear, don't you think this post style sounds townish?


rayn says moosy top town read
On September 29 2015 20:23 rsoultin wrote:
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On September 29 2015 20:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2015 20:15 rsoultin wrote:
-pokes rayn- moosy bugs me. am i dumb?

my top townread.


why?

why is everyone townreading moosy i just don't understand

he's not doing a god-damned thing @.@


Rels starts to push on me here, like i said before mafia would love it if i was lynched because i look like blue role/medic

On September 29 2015 21:21 Rels wrote:
This first post by coolTLname is super scummy.
It is his first post, and he talks about a lot of differents subjects. A first post with different subjects is scum indicative as mafia usually has a hard time entering the thread.
Plus, I don't know how GB's posts being mechanical and rayn's posts being mechanical are mixed up.
Plus, he agrees on a Moosy's posts that I don't understand.
Plus, he next post is scummy too:
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On September 29 2015 16:47 coolTLname wrote:
So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?

Can medics heal themselves?

Two useless questions.
After that he posted one more time and gtfo.


the huge difference between his reads on me and the ones on Trfels early game banter is suspicious
his suspect list, LS GB are town to him atm

On September 29 2015 21:36 GlowingBear wrote:
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On September 29 2015 21:28 Rels wrote:
On September 29 2015 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and saw Marv and Damdred having a fight -_- I honestly think Damdred actually is town this time around Marv kinda townlean but I need him to post a little bit more :\ I will check rayn and sl's filter soon as I still kinda sleeping and will jroc's filter too after that. Also saw Rels had started posting a little bit.
@Rels: what are your reads currently?

almost finished catching up, atm my reads are:
pretty sure they are town: LS, GB
maybe town: marv (will re evaluate at EOD), rayn, rsoultin, Damdred
null: sicklucker, Shining, moosy
maybe scum: JRoc
would lynch: Trfel, coolTLname

don't think they will move until the end of the read 'cause I'm got to the part I started posting


Wait

You are going against Moosy but have him as null, you scum read JRoc without saying much about him and you would lynch truffle for what reason?

any GB misses his post on Trfel

On September 29 2015 21:45 GlowingBear wrote:
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On September 29 2015 21:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
The problem with this game isn't so much that there are no scum reads, it's that there are too many people I'm not townreading.

- marv is town
- Rels is town
- Damdred is town
- Lightningstrike is town

Only people I'm certain of at this point.

Oh yeah, GB is town lean. hm...rayn is scum lean.


Alright. This guy is Mafia.

You said all my posts were mechanical but never went pushing this matter further. You placed your vote on Marv in a very suspicious way.

I told rsoultin to hold this discussion to see if you would pursue this matter further. I wanted to see if you would push your suspicions on me further without any influence of the players on you, and you didn't.

I don't see how you can find me suspicious and vote Marv and come to the thread and call both of us town. The voting pattern and reads doesn't make sense


GB attacks moosy and damdred defends him

On September 29 2015 21:49 GlowingBear wrote:
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On September 29 2015 21:47 Damdred wrote:
Ok moosey is probably lock town at this point


WHAT?


Very forced moosy analysis of GB
On September 29 2015 22:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I just went ahead and plucked out a few quotes:
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On September 29 2015 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!


TLDR:

yada yada music yada

not posting cause music yada yada


Marry me

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On September 29 2015 07:18 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:14 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:

O hai!

I'm town


truffle took your position. next phase
Please explain, I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at here?

I mean, yeah, I'd just like to have you explain this post please ^^


i see you bby

you know it

me and my third eye of amaze. or am i wrong and you're not being the gb acolyte, just trying to imitate the finer whiskies?

(is that how you spell they plural for whisky? o.0)


He is not my acolyte, he is my successor

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On September 29 2015 07:21 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:19 Damdred wrote:
Ok I have a couple terrible town reads

Is this going to be the theme for early Day 1? This just going to a shitfest.....


Ok I have a couple of terrible town reads

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.

Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny

and like walks

Please apply for my townfriend

i have a good voice, maybe?
i might be funny.
i enjoy walks.

enough?


Rayn who is with you in your scum qt?

All of these posts are very bland. Like they're supposed to be banter but it's almost a sea of gray as if GB is forcing(?)/faking(?) the banter.

Which just made me more suspicious when he started focusing on Trfel/Damdred straight away. I don't know GB's meta too well so I'm not sure if he's normally this focused or not. The thing is that he did bring two good points on Trfel and Damdred.

This combination of not being sure about GB's meta and how he's bringing up good things made me town lean him for a while.

coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:45 GMT
#3853
GOGO VOTE GB NO ONE DOES A REACTION TEST 20 MINUTE BEFORE DEADLINE
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:46 GMT
#3856
On October 04 2015 06:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Use your brains.

Why would I as Mafia do this just to risk being scum read IF we are hitting town?

Jesus.

you did it because u wanted to say Oh shit told u guys coolTL is town, and u were under heavy suspicion before even 3 votes on you day 1. CASE OF TMI because u know ill flip town
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:47 GMT
#3859
ONLY NEED RELS RSOULTIN AND TRFEL GO GOGO GO GO
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:47 GMT
#3861
oh wait trfel is on GB need another
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:48 GMT
#3865
U WOULD DO NOTHING BECAUSE APPARENTLY IVE BEEN BEING BUSSED FOR TWO DAYS STRAIGHT LMAO
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:48 GMT
#3867
LYNCH GB FUCK
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:49 GMT
#3869
TOWN NEEDS THREE STRAIGHT LYNCHES IF IM NOT MAFIA
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:49 GMT
#3870
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:50 GMT
#3875
here so u can copy paste :

## unvote
## vote glowing bear
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:51 GMT
#3879
GB WANT A KIT KAT ? GB CLAIMED ROLEBLOCKER NIGHT 1 GB HAS BEEN USUALLY INACTIVE ALL GAME
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:52 GMT
#3884
On October 04 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
like, if that's his notes for the game apparently he stopped taking them a long time ago? no reads. i just...it's weird but why does that make him town? @.@

i was making a last will theres are not my notes, and i ran out of time because LYNCH GLOWING BEAR EIGHT MINUTES LEFT
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:53 GMT
#3888
GB AND MOOSY and maybe rels , damdred etc idk
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:54 GMT
#3892
On October 04 2015 06:52 rsoultin wrote:
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On October 04 2015 06:52 coolTLname wrote:
On October 04 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
like, if that's his notes for the game apparently he stopped taking them a long time ago? no reads. i just...it's weird but why does that make him town? @.@

i was making a last will theres are not my notes, and i ran out of time because LYNCH GLOWING BEAR EIGHT MINUTES LEFT


what is your will then? who is scum? who is town?

there is nothing in that post

ive been busy here posting GLOWING BEAR IS MAFIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:54 GMT
#3893
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:54 GMT
#3896
tfrel whaiiiiiiiiii
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:55 GMT
#3901
On September 29 2015 23:44 marvellosity wrote:
i like him already

Look Marv said he likes me VOTE GLOWING BEAR
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:56 GMT
#3904
On October 04 2015 06:54 rsoultin wrote:
o.0

why is everyone switching based on a fucking summary that he wrote up afterwards that has no reads in it like wtf >< that's not a will it's just a huge post of nothing at all

its because of what GLOWING BEAR POSTED he posted a "REACTION TEST " 20 MINUTES BEFORE DEADLINE BULLSHIT
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:56 GMT
#3908
On October 04 2015 06:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i am back but what d o we do?

VOTE GB QUICK 4 MINUTES
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:57 GMT
#3912
On October 04 2015 06:56 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 04 2015 06:54 Rels wrote:
On October 04 2015 06:51 rsoultin wrote:
On October 04 2015 06:50 Rels wrote:
On October 04 2015 06:49 rsoultin wrote:
well i mean i read cool's post but i have no clue what his point there even is?

it's just a summary of the very beginning of the game o.0

why do you think he's town, rels?

Because he fucking prepared a giant will post for after he s dead


except that's not a will post -_- you didn't even read it did you?

No I didn't read it
He expected to be dead and posted this giant thing
WHY WOULD NOT LIE LOW IF HE IS BEING BUSED


Dude he had time to do that whole post after I voted him. He could have done that post before so people can discuss me.

He did it now to try to get a lynch on me.

You can't seriously see it?

THERES NO WAY I COULD KNOW U WOULD DO A STUPID REACTION TEST LIKE SAY OMG I THINK COOLTNAME IS TOWN AFTER ALL HA HA HA
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:57 GMT
#3916
LYNCH GB
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:58 GMT
#3920
On October 04 2015 06:57 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 04 2015 06:55 coolTLname wrote:
On September 29 2015 23:44 marvellosity wrote:
i like him already

Look Marv said he likes me VOTE GLOWING BEAR


Dude look at this LOL

AT LEAST IVE BEEN READING THREAD UNLIKE YOU BOOM LYNCH GB
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:58 GMT
#3924
OK DAMDRED SL RSOULTIN DO U WANT TO VOTE FOR MOOSY
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 21:59 GMT
#3933
##unvote
##vote moosydoosy
##unvote
##vote moosydoosy
##unvote
##vote moosydoosy

SAVE MEE NOO
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 22:01 GMT
#3941
ok gg heres my summary again
G B AND MOOSY

Hello guise, if you're reading this , it means im probably already dead. As your fellow Vanilla townie , i hope you trust my unbiased newbie opinions. actually this is mostly a summary lol no time

Rssoultin some town reads, mostly playful banter up to this point

Trfel, first person to suggest mafia and town reads
On September 29 2015 07:53 Trfel wrote:
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On September 29 2015 07:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Truffle, what do you make of the informstion already displayed in thread?
Town lean on you (GlowingBear)
Sort of town lean on LightningStrike
Sort of town lean on raynpelikoneet
Sort of mafia lean on rsoultin

I haven't been paying much attention, though. Going to go get dinner now, I'll actually read the thread sometime tonight....


J roc comes in with the misleading townie vibe , slanders people for attention and goes Nowatimsaying. air of confidence

Moosy comes in with an accusation on GB
On September 29 2015 08:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB's posts are strangely mechanical. There are a few with flavor but most of them are factory produced.


Its funny because moosy's accusation is basically what could be said about himself, a mechanical attack on GB to LOOK town.
Then he attacks rsoultin
On September 29 2015 08:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On September 29 2015 08:54 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:52 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:50 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:18 Damdred wrote:
Ls truffel and mooseybim really confident in being town. Moosey probably the weakest of those three.




You are being terrible tbh


terrible or scummy? terrible implies town and awesome

i'm definitely awesome

terrible in a scummy way. what time is it over there btw?


howso? and about 7ish

mmm...I don't see typical rsoul bubbliness or willingness to question things. Basically no indication you're looking into stuff.


These statements are like out of nowhere, its very early in the game. furthermore he flopping between them not pushing them at all for a real read.

On September 29 2015 10:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On September 29 2015 10:26 sicklucker wrote:
On September 29 2015 10:14 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 10:12 sicklucker wrote:
i like how no one even trys to read me anymore. That means im doing my job


you're not doing yourself any favors with posts like these


who cares they dont make me mafia

They don't make you townie.

You know what, I have a deep temptation to push for sicklucker's lynch. Do any of you feel it?

Why would u post this as townie, just push for the freaking lynch . As a newbie i think that if im saying this it must be really bad.

SL starts drinking. starts spewing random knowledge. Seems drunk.

damdred comes in with a list ( i hate big lists) logically seems fine

On September 29 2015 11:46 Damdred wrote:
1 rsoultin (Shadow: NocturneMage)
2 MoosyDoosy
3 Trfel
6 LightningStrike
9 sicklucker


4 GlowingBear
5 raynpelikoneet
7 Rels
8 marvellosity
10 J Roc
12 The Shining
13 coolTLname

I guess this is a fair split so far, i'll try to keep this updated with how I turn my reads and move people around. I'm open to questions about the top or bottom, J-ROC is sorta a fringe read currently, and the others are mostly afk. But i'm tempted to put shining in a do not lynch list just because he won't be playing till wensday I believe anyway. Which would mean I need to give Rayn more time as well which i'm ok doing.


and moosy posts about his sprained ankle before he retires

this is where i come in with my dumbtell, mafia should be like OMG A BLUE ROLE *foams at mouth*

coincidentally rels comes in at this time too, we are both a bit late to the thread.

he makes a really forced read on what i thought was just playful banter on GB LS and truffle
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=31 first few posts

rayn ignores my feeble attempt at accusing him, (i voted him too )

Ok So here is where damdred gets really mad, because of marv
On September 29 2015 18:39 marvellosity wrote:
i take it back, i would 100% lynch damdred


On September 29 2015 18:39 marvellosity wrote:
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On September 29 2015 12:38 Damdred wrote:
Let me break it down for you moosey,scum Marv can't be assed to defend himself and maybe incrimidate his partners if we load votes on him.

If he's town he cares 99999% more. So its better to figure it out at this poont

stupid, boring, incorrect meta

pathetic, damdred.


On September 29 2015 18:43 marvellosity wrote:
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On September 29 2015 18:39 marvellosity wrote:
On September 29 2015 12:38 Damdred wrote:
Let me break it down for you moosey,scum Marv can't be assed to defend himself and maybe incrimidate his partners if we load votes on him.

If he's town he cares 99999% more. So its better to figure it out at this poont

stupid, boring, incorrect meta

pathetic, damdred.

like honestly this is so bad Damdred should just give up mafia in shame.

it doesn't make sense.

the one way to make me angry/unproductive/whatever-negative-adjective-you-like is to pile votes up on me for no reason.

THAT'S meta.

On September 29 2015 18:44 marvellosity wrote:
Damdred should also know I never, ever, ever incriminate my partners, even when i have energy as mafia and i'm defending myself.

On September 29 2015 18:59 Damdred wrote:
Well fuck you to Marv, obviously you don't ibcrimidate your partners or defend yourself. Seriously shove it up your ass.

I try to always be polite to people, but you know what your right. I quit I won't play another mafia game after this one I've been debating for months about quitting and you get your wish. Over something I phrased badly.

Fuck you and fuck this game.


the rest is here if interested http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=34
On September 29 2015 19:06 marvellosity wrote:
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On September 29 2015 19:04 Damdred wrote:
Then vote me assholes, seriously fuck you both.

I'm so glad my mispgrase and me playing mafia is blatant shit and is warranted to tell me to quit playing mafia. Really glad

it's not a misphrase, you cow

everything you said was wrong


the way to read me town has never been to "pile votes on marv early". that's something only sicklucker says because he's sicklucker.

you should know a lot, lot, lot better than to think just voting for me is a productive use of time early d1. you really, really should.

having a massive strop about it doesn't make it any better either


On September 29 2015 19:18 marvellosity wrote:
like why is Moosy even voting for me? he outlines all the reasons i already vaguely alluded to about rsoultin, so he decides to vote the one player in the game who apparently shares his views on her?

why?

are people just insane?


GB defends moosy
On September 29 2015 20:27 GlowingBear wrote:
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On September 29 2015 12:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoul we have successfully filled 6 pages of the game with our argument. I feel rather accomplished. Do you?


Dear, don't you think this post style sounds townish?


rayn says moosy top town read
On September 29 2015 20:23 rsoultin wrote:
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On September 29 2015 20:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2015 20:15 rsoultin wrote:
-pokes rayn- moosy bugs me. am i dumb?

my top townread.


why?

why is everyone townreading moosy i just don't understand

he's not doing a god-damned thing @.@


Rels starts to push on me here, like i said before mafia would love it if i was lynched because i look like blue role/medic

On September 29 2015 21:21 Rels wrote:
This first post by coolTLname is super scummy.
It is his first post, and he talks about a lot of differents subjects. A first post with different subjects is scum indicative as mafia usually has a hard time entering the thread.
Plus, I don't know how GB's posts being mechanical and rayn's posts being mechanical are mixed up.
Plus, he agrees on a Moosy's posts that I don't understand.
Plus, he next post is scummy too:
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On September 29 2015 16:47 coolTLname wrote:
So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?

Can medics heal themselves?

Two useless questions.
After that he posted one more time and gtfo.


the huge difference between his reads on me and the ones on Trfels early game banter is suspicious
his suspect list, LS GB are town to him atm

On September 29 2015 21:36 GlowingBear wrote:
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On September 29 2015 21:28 Rels wrote:
On September 29 2015 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and saw Marv and Damdred having a fight -_- I honestly think Damdred actually is town this time around Marv kinda townlean but I need him to post a little bit more :\ I will check rayn and sl's filter soon as I still kinda sleeping and will jroc's filter too after that. Also saw Rels had started posting a little bit.
@Rels: what are your reads currently?

almost finished catching up, atm my reads are:
pretty sure they are town: LS, GB
maybe town: marv (will re evaluate at EOD), rayn, rsoultin, Damdred
null: sicklucker, Shining, moosy
maybe scum: JRoc
would lynch: Trfel, coolTLname

don't think they will move until the end of the read 'cause I'm got to the part I started posting


Wait

You are going against Moosy but have him as null, you scum read JRoc without saying much about him and you would lynch truffle for what reason?

any GB misses his post on Trfel

On September 29 2015 21:45 GlowingBear wrote:
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On September 29 2015 21:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
The problem with this game isn't so much that there are no scum reads, it's that there are too many people I'm not townreading.

- marv is town
- Rels is town
- Damdred is town
- Lightningstrike is town

Only people I'm certain of at this point.

Oh yeah, GB is town lean. hm...rayn is scum lean.


Alright. This guy is Mafia.

You said all my posts were mechanical but never went pushing this matter further. You placed your vote on Marv in a very suspicious way.

I told rsoultin to hold this discussion to see if you would pursue this matter further. I wanted to see if you would push your suspicions on me further without any influence of the players on you, and you didn't.

I don't see how you can find me suspicious and vote Marv and come to the thread and call both of us town. The voting pattern and reads doesn't make sense


GB attacks moosy and damdred defends him

On September 29 2015 21:49 GlowingBear wrote:
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On September 29 2015 21:47 Damdred wrote:
Ok moosey is probably lock town at this point


WHAT?


Very forced moosy analysis of GB
On September 29 2015 22:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I just went ahead and plucked out a few quotes:
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On September 29 2015 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjFvEZXIko

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!


TLDR:

yada yada music yada

not posting cause music yada yada


Marry me

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:18 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:14 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:

O hai!

I'm town


truffle took your position. next phase
Please explain, I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at here?

I mean, yeah, I'd just like to have you explain this post please ^^


i see you bby

you know it

me and my third eye of amaze. or am i wrong and you're not being the gb acolyte, just trying to imitate the finer whiskies?

(is that how you spell they plural for whisky? o.0)


He is not my acolyte, he is my successor

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On September 29 2015 07:21 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:19 Damdred wrote:
Ok I have a couple terrible town reads

Is this going to be the theme for early Day 1? This just going to a shitfest.....


Ok I have a couple of terrible town reads

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.

Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny

and like walks

Please apply for my townfriend

i have a good voice, maybe?
i might be funny.
i enjoy walks.

enough?


Rayn who is with you in your scum qt?

All of these posts are very bland. Like they're supposed to be banter but it's almost a sea of gray as if GB is forcing(?)/faking(?) the banter.

Which just made me more suspicious when he started focusing on Trfel/Damdred straight away. I don't know GB's meta too well so I'm not sure if he's normally this focused or not. The thing is that he did bring two good points on Trfel and Damdred.

This combination of not being sure about GB's meta and how he's bringing up good things made me town lean him for a while.


G B AND MOOSY
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 03 2015 22:02 GMT
#3946
Rayn i love u WP GG MAFIA I TRIED
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 07 2015 22:51 GMT
#5372
WE WON ?!!?! :O .

Guess im 100% in mafia guise time to retire
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 08 2015 00:10 GMT
#5374
sure ^^
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