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On October 03 2015 20:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 20:15 rsoultin wrote:On October 03 2015 20:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am confused. Are you saying Rels was interested in lynching you or not?
Because rn you are saying both. @.@ you were saying present tense. present tense he hasn't shown a large interest in lynching me right after marv's case he dropped his read on trfel and sheeped you guys even though he'd been hard pushing trfel. trfel hadn't addressed his points at the time, and he believed that trfel and i couldn't be scum when he did it Again i am starting to see red. You literally jsut said Rels was not interested in lynching you (while hopping on the wagon with me and marv). Because you said he then was willing to give you more room to explain -> not really interested in lynching you, as per your words. You don't think i am mafia, marv is flipped town. Again; If you do not think mafia hopped on your wagon (because regardless of if Rels is mafia or not he didn't really hop on your wagon and push your lynch as YOU SAID), why is that? Why can't you understand simple questions?
-squints at-
rayn
you said rels is one of the people who really wants to lynch me
rels actually is one of the people saying we should wait for my analyses and giving me room, so that is wrong
but he still did sheep the wagon on to me
i made a stink about it because he dropped his truffle read to do so right out of the blue, and according to him at the time he believed we could not be scum together
only after we went back and forth a lot did he back off. as town, he could have just seen where i was coming from. but as scum, backing off would benefit him because he looks like fucking shit after i flip town with the stink i made about him dropping his read, assuming anyone cares enough to pay attention
^ like i can see town or mafia motivations for that tbh
present tense - he doesn't seem to really want to lynch me
past tense - he did jump on my wagon and push me until we argued for awhile
the present tense of "to be" is the word "is", which you used
comprende?
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On October 03 2015 20:24 Rels wrote:
Wtf rsoul
I pushed you until a point where I thought you were confirmed mafia, then I was happy and left
When I came back you showed me that something I thought was false (that you started to townread Marv way before I thought)
Then I re evaluated
How the FUCK can you say I didn't push you
i never did say that you didn't push me @.@
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On October 03 2015 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin do you think or do you not think Rels wanted to lynch you on D1?
DUDE
he clearly wanted to part of d1 and then didn't want to!
like how the fuck do you not understand this?!
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i'm sorry but seriously what is your malfunction, rayn? what isn't clear about what i just said?
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On October 03 2015 20:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 19:46 rsoultin wrote:
but i think this is, again, one of those times where you're hugely detail-oriented and i'm more big picture? like you're not even paying attention to the fact that i'm kind of scumreading moosy and rels for similar things, which is namely that while they appeared to not be interested in actually lynching into the main wagons being discussed at the time (trfel, myself, gb) they didn't really push their cool read at all
very good. after he dropped me, which he admits, they weren't interested into lynching into us, which he admits
and he didn't push cool
he says he had no time to
HE ADMITS EVERYTHING I JUST ASSERTED THERE
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On October 03 2015 20:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 20:29 rsoultin wrote:On October 03 2015 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin do you think or do you not think Rels wanted to lynch you on D1? DUDE he clearly wanted to part of d1 and then didn't want to! like how the fuck do you not understand this?! So he was not pushing your lynch then, because you can't be pushing and not pushing. Again, why did mafia not hop on your lynch?
-_-
yeah i've explained all this you're just pissing me off now
does anyone else not get it and i'm just explaining myself poorly? cause if it's only rayn i'm not gonna bother repeating myself ten times
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On October 03 2015 20:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 20:29 rsoultin wrote:On October 03 2015 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin do you think or do you not think Rels wanted to lynch you on D1? DUDE he clearly wanted to part of d1 and then didn't want to! like how the fuck do you not understand this?! So he was not pushing your lynch then, because you can't be pushing and not pushing. Again, why did mafia not hop on your lynch?
apparently rels did not hop onto my lynch because rayn's world only consists of what happens at the end ^^ and that's assuming that rels is actually mafia
how should i know why according to rayn view mafia didn't hop onto my lynch? maybe they don't want to be associated with mislynching a town rsoul. they didn't pm me and tell me 'hey rsoul, we didn't jump on your wagon because x'
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On October 03 2015 20:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:I don't care what he admits. I care about: Why do you have to dance around the question instead of jsut fucking answering it?
i did answer it
i say the sky is blue
you say the sky is green
rels dropping his read on truffle to push me is jumping on my lynch in my mind but since you apparently define it differently, apparently mafia didn't jump on my lynch
whatever
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On October 03 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 20:36 rsoultin wrote:
rels dropping his read on truffle to push me is jumping on my lynch in my mind but since you apparently define it differently, apparently mafia didn't jump on my lynch
but he wasn't pushing you. instead after some time he gave you more room. why does he do that as mafia?
he was pushing me @.@ even he says he was pushing me
you're still saying the sky is green
and i already answered this question. as mafia, with me making a huge stink about how he dropped his read on trfel to do this, he looks like shit when i flip town. is there some reason you're not reading my responses to you?
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your assertion is that rels
as mafia
could lynch me with impunity because you and marv would take the heat
my assertion is that no, you're wrong, because i pushed him for him dropping his read to push me, so people going back through after my lynch would see that and he'd look really bad for it
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On October 03 2015 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 20:39 rsoultin wrote:On October 03 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2015 20:36 rsoultin wrote:
rels dropping his read on truffle to push me is jumping on my lynch in my mind but since you apparently define it differently, apparently mafia didn't jump on my lynch
but he wasn't pushing you. instead after some time he gave you more room. why does he do that as mafia? he was pushing me @.@ even he says he was pushing me you're still saying the sky is green and i already answered this question. as mafia, with me making a huge stink about how he dropped his read on trfel to do this, he looks like shit when i flip town. is there some reason you're not reading my responses to you? I don't think you are lying, i am not suggesting so. I just want you to be as clear as possible so there is no way to misjudge this -- when i say this: So you think Rels is mafia. You think he is the only mafia pushing your lynch. Now let's assume Trfel is scum here. At the time the push on you starts there is - if i remember correctly - four votes on Trfel. Rels is mafia and hops onto you, from Trfel. You are the only counterwagon. It doesn't make any sense, especially considering later on Rels wants to give you more room. So Trfel cannot possibly be mafia in this game if you are town, and should not ever be mafia for you in this game, unless you think i am mafia (which you don't). That should be your #1 reason for reading Trfel town regardless of what he has ever said in this game because if Trfel was mafia mafia WOULD have hopped on you with greater numbers and pushed your lynch more. Somehow you can't realize this simple fact that if you are town Trfel must be town. And don't try to feed me with bullshit "but i think Trfel is town", i am telling you this should be your reasoning, at least part of it, yet it is not.
-squints at-
i'm not trying to be mean here, rayn, but this is really just hot air. you're telling me how i should be thinking when i was townreading trfel d1 as it was @.@
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it's not just "i think trfel is town"
it's literally "i thought trfel was town all d1 and that's why i was looking for a lynch outside the two of us"
so what are you even getting at here? i didn't sit here and say the magic words while still reaching the same conclusion?
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On October 03 2015 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 20:53 rsoultin wrote:
it's literally "i thought trfel was town all d1 and that's why i was looking for a lynch outside the two of us"
I am sorry but you have been scumreading Trfel on N1/D2.
indeed i have
and i wasn't scumreading rels at the time, so again...this doesn't apply? you're right...me thinking rels and trfel being mafia together would be rather illogical. i don't and i don't think i ever have said that?
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on the surface it would be kinda logical to explain the sudden drop of his push on trfel, but pissing off to vote cool...no. rayn, you're beginning to exhaust me again -_-
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On October 03 2015 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels' alignment has nothing to do with this.
In fact it should be even more clear to you that Trfel is town if Rels is not mafia.
-squints at-
so what you're really saying is that if trfel were mafia more scum should be trying to vote for me d1. that follows. lol you should have just said that
i was skeezed out by trfel asking me questions over and over, my answering them, and then him whining that i hadn't lol >< and got focused on that. you can think this makes me scum if you like but i'd think you of all people could understand how something not making sense can be distracting ^^
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On October 03 2015 21:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 21:10 rsoultin wrote:On October 03 2015 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels' alignment has nothing to do with this.
In fact it should be even more clear to you that Trfel is town if Rels is not mafia. -squints at- so what you're really saying is that if trfel were mafia more scum should be trying to vote for me d1. that follows. lol you should have just said that i was skeezed out by trfel asking me questions over and over, my answering them, and then him whining that i hadn't lol >< and got focused on that. you can think this makes me scum if you like but i'd think you of all people could understand how something not making sense can be distracting ^^ Yes that what i am saying, or rather i am saying YOU should be the one figuring that out easily since yo uare supposed to know you are town. If you are mafia, then, obviously none of this applies... You even did wagon analysis (mainly on Moosy/Rels/shining) here, jsut some time ago. Yet you leave out the most easily seen logical conclusion from your analysis (=because i am town, it must mean Trfel is town). So, another scumpoint to you.
-rolls eyes-
you know, rayn, one of these days you're going to learn that people not thinking the way you do is not a scumtell. once i decide someone's town, unless i'm defending them from people, i really don't look further than that
the fact that my main scumreads are all people who DIDN'T CARE about the lynch and pissed off with an afk vote should tell you that my mind is there even if i didn't explicitly say "trfel must be town because scum didn't vote for me"
saying "scum didn't care about the lynch" IMPLIES that "trfel is town"
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On October 03 2015 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 21:18 rsoultin wrote:
you know, rayn, one of these days you're going to learn that people not thinking the way you do is not a scumtell. once i decide someone's town, unless i'm defending them from people, i really don't look further than that yeah but there is this thing that you thought Trfel is mafia at some point and did look into him further...
very good, rayn
and once i looked into him further i decided he was town and i was distracting myself
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like you can insist that i should never have suspected him in the first place, but honestly the same could be said for him. the reverse is true, is it not? if he's town and i'm scum shouldn't scum be piling on him? including me? yet he suspected me anyway
so unless you think we're both scum, the only conclusion that you can draw from this is that it does not make a player scum because they didn't consider that at some point in the game ^^ and instead focused on other things
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but instead you townread him for suspecting me lol >< apparently this hadn't occurred to you at the time, either. does that mean you're scum? essentially, rayn, you're barking up the wrong tree here
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and here is where you either rescind your townread on trfel or admit i'm probably lock town if trfel is ^^
-rolls around the thread-
xP
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