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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 01 2015 23:10 GMT
#2824
On October 02 2015 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
then go to sleep and post when you have a clear head.


lol you can blame lex and jack for keeping me up this late ^^ but ye now i'm off
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 02:23 GMT
#2913
meh it's not really flames anyway moosy but thanks for telling me what my own metareads on people should be lol ><

rayn is perfectly fiery as scum. it's more what he focuses on and how he goes about it than whether or not there are "flames"...though i agree his posting this day phase does seem more town-like

and no i'm not really going to go into reads much before a reread cause there's really no point, especially with the way certain players who will not be named apparently think that read changes through the course of the day phase are scummy xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 02:30 GMT
#2920
On October 02 2015 11:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:
meh it's not really flames anyway moosy but thanks for telling me what my own metareads on people should be lol ><

rayn is perfectly fiery as scum. it's more what he focuses on and how he goes about it than whether or not there are "flames"...though i agree his posting this day phase does seem more town-like

and no i'm not really going to go into reads much before a reread cause there's really no point, especially with the way certain players who will not be named apparently think that read changes through the course of the day phase are scummy xP

rsoul, try and follow my train of thought. A trait of your scum behavior is indecisiveness and inability to place scumreads, yeah? Obviously it'll be strange if your read on marv started flip flopping a ton and all of a sudden you dropped your read on GB here. On top of that, I don't really see you trying to lynch anybody. The only way your safety is somewhat guaranteed is if coolTL flips scum which spews you somewhat as town.


not really

people will say i've been defending him (if only partially) and he was hard-defending a scum buddy. it doesn't really mean anything regarding my alignment if he does flip scum...and if he flips town we're all up a creek lol ><

i'm not sure where you're getting these traits of my "scum behavior"? i can break down how i play for people who care, if that helps, but there's no reason i can't (and haven't been) indecisive as town. in fact, if we want to go into lovely wifom-ville, cobbling together a scum read and tunneling it every way to sunday to appease the masses isn't terribly difficult lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 02:34 GMT
#2923
On October 02 2015 11:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 11:30 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 11:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:
meh it's not really flames anyway moosy but thanks for telling me what my own metareads on people should be lol ><

rayn is perfectly fiery as scum. it's more what he focuses on and how he goes about it than whether or not there are "flames"...though i agree his posting this day phase does seem more town-like

and no i'm not really going to go into reads much before a reread cause there's really no point, especially with the way certain players who will not be named apparently think that read changes through the course of the day phase are scummy xP

rsoul, try and follow my train of thought. A trait of your scum behavior is indecisiveness and inability to place scumreads, yeah? Obviously it'll be strange if your read on marv started flip flopping a ton and all of a sudden you dropped your read on GB here. On top of that, I don't really see you trying to lynch anybody. The only way your safety is somewhat guaranteed is if coolTL flips scum which spews you somewhat as town.


not really

people will say i've been defending him (if only partially) and he was hard-defending a scum buddy. it doesn't really mean anything regarding my alignment if he does flip scum...and if he flips town we're all up a creek lol ><

i'm not sure where you're getting these traits of my "scum behavior"? i can break down how i play for people who care, if that helps, but there's no reason i can't (and haven't been) indecisive as town. in fact, if we want to go into lovely wifom-ville, cobbling together a scum read and tunneling it every way to sunday to appease the masses isn't terribly difficult lol ><

oh yeah, that was my question. you should be able to easily refute the argument that you were defending coolTLname.


what was your question?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 02:38 GMT
#2925
On October 02 2015 11:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 11:34 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 11:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 11:30 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 11:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:
meh it's not really flames anyway moosy but thanks for telling me what my own metareads on people should be lol ><

rayn is perfectly fiery as scum. it's more what he focuses on and how he goes about it than whether or not there are "flames"...though i agree his posting this day phase does seem more town-like

and no i'm not really going to go into reads much before a reread cause there's really no point, especially with the way certain players who will not be named apparently think that read changes through the course of the day phase are scummy xP

rsoul, try and follow my train of thought. A trait of your scum behavior is indecisiveness and inability to place scumreads, yeah? Obviously it'll be strange if your read on marv started flip flopping a ton and all of a sudden you dropped your read on GB here. On top of that, I don't really see you trying to lynch anybody. The only way your safety is somewhat guaranteed is if coolTL flips scum which spews you somewhat as town.


not really

people will say i've been defending him (if only partially) and he was hard-defending a scum buddy. it doesn't really mean anything regarding my alignment if he does flip scum...and if he flips town we're all up a creek lol ><

i'm not sure where you're getting these traits of my "scum behavior"? i can break down how i play for people who care, if that helps, but there's no reason i can't (and haven't been) indecisive as town. in fact, if we want to go into lovely wifom-ville, cobbling together a scum read and tunneling it every way to sunday to appease the masses isn't terribly difficult lol ><

oh yeah, that was my question. you should be able to easily refute the argument that you were defending coolTLname.


what was your question?

I was expecting for you to refute the point that you and coolTLname were Mafia through interaction in the thread.


mm well it wouldn't be terribly great scum play, would it? but scum make mistakes lol >< all i can really do in any case is try to make my thought process clear and hope town sees that i'm not mafia

not really much else for it
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 02:41 GMT
#2928
if it's me you haven't really been hiding it so well, tbf -stretches-

i'm kind of disappointed that no one cares :/ though i guess it's not terribly important if this is an auto-lynch cool day
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 02:59 GMT
#2934
On October 02 2015 11:54 coolTLname wrote:
Anyways im kind of really stressed and theres no other candidate aside from me. I guess i could try to solve the game, ill compile some stuff i have but its true in a huge 147 page filter like this , ppl do forget stuff and i doubt anyone has that good memory playing a drinking mafia game lol. After today rayn seemed legit angry at me, so i think hes town. before it seemed he was faking the anger for misdirection.

I noticed the shining and LS have the lowest page filters. this could make sense as mafia is probably very delighted , if i flip town it paints rayn and GB etc moreso, so perhaps they are just sitting back, relaxing lurking in the shadows.

And the whole 7=3 thing is dumb anyways because i already stated i was busy , so i skimmed over it. I still think i wasnt lying or anything but i might have been.

and i didnt really think damdred was mafia but he must be


he doesn't have to be scum at all, cool. as long as there's an RB for mafia which there usually is, and no expectation of a third blue role...two is the norm for these games...they can keep him around as long as they like

and don't worry so much about being the only candidate? just post your thoughts/reads. i'll be doing my in-depth analysis after this schoolwork is all out of the way tomorrow

it's not in the best interest of town to auto-lynch someone who is by no means confirmed mafia @.@ that it's what's happening so far is in some ways ridiculous tbh, though it might be early yet to say that
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 03:02 GMT
#2937
On October 02 2015 11:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
did anyone notice he literally revokes everything he said and did in that post of his...


look, seriously...the guy is already being railroaded

let him talk freely and don't ping him like this. rayn's approach where he throws zingers and sarcasm is both demoralizing and tilting at once, and if cool is town, this is not the way to help him show that to us
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 03:12 GMT
#2942
i'll have questions after my read-through

:/ still depressing y'all want to scumread me for my methods without being curious what they actually are lol

so i'll just lay them out for you guys and maybe that'll help you understand why i fluctuated as much as i did and am being really neutral right now

day ones i try to get townreads off general personality (tone/meta) type reads...if i can get a scumread off that (i.e. someone is behaving really outside the norm) i'll latch onto it like a bulldog but that doesn't always happen. sometimes it's just little doubts here and there and a collection of people i don't want to lynch

night one is usually the time for vca...i do mine differently than others on the site do. it works to some extent even with town flips. essentially i go through everyone's filters and see their read progressions and how they line up with their voting, add that in to context and what i know of them and shake out a reads list, but more importantly a ranking from there

^ this is what i haven't been able to do yet and i don't think a bunch of reads based on personality from d1 and general impressions/faulty memory 147 pages in will really do anyone any good. it will come tomorrow evening and i'm hoping to find some yummy things there ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 03:22 GMT
#2946
On October 02 2015 12:18 coolTLname wrote:
because mafia would be thinking.. Hey is this guy actually the medic?? so they would notice that post


hn, while i agree that mafia would likely key in on this post, do you think they'd post something in thread to let you know they were doing that?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 03:29 GMT
#2950
i remember this post vaguely. you've posted it before, haven't you? nothing's happened between then and now?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 03:44 GMT
#2953
On October 02 2015 12:34 coolTLname wrote:
Wait it jsut occured to me that Marv would have been killed for a reason. I think u all assume .. well fuck it marvs rly good but he might have said something that really incriminated mafia so they killed him off. Regardless there must be a reason they thought he was so smart to kill n1, he proved it somehow


marvellosity is hands down one of the best players on the site. he was universally townread...and i don't really recall him pushing anything in particular? though this is back to murky memory here

assuming that this is correct, what his night kill suggests if anything is that scum is very comfortable with the atmosphere of the thread right now. which suggests to me that either you're town or scum is happy to buss the living shit out of you and has given you up for dead

nk analysis isn't terribly strong this early in the game, tbh
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 04:00 GMT
#2956
On October 02 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 11:43 Trfel wrote:
Marvellosity is more than capable of playing like this as mafia, and that would very nicely explain a lot of things, but after rolling mafia last game that just feels so unlikely that I think I'm willing to ignore that possibility for now.



On October 01 2015 23:36 Trfel wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:25 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:23 Trfel wrote:
On October 01 2015 17:55 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 11:43 Trfel wrote:

Marvellosity is more than capable of playing like this as mafia, and that would very nicely explain a lot of things, but after rolling mafia last game that just feels so unlikely that I think I'm willing to ignore that possibility for now.


Prove this shit-tastic statement please.

find one game as mafia where i play *remotely* similar to this.

otherwise your opinions are basically worthless piles of crap because you're just saying things that i already know are blatantly false.

i want you to actually go find a game where i did anything remotely similar to this game.

off you toddle now.
I could look through the entire database to try and find a game.

But that's pointless? There's no reason why you couldn't play like this. You know that you generally don't aggressively push a read early on as mafia, you said it yourself. But there's nothing that actually stops you from doing that, other than effort.

no, i am completely incapable because i have a million mafia games and have tried to replicate such things before.

i've been playing pretty constantly for 3 and a half years and come nowhere near managing it.

why on earth do you think i could suddenly manage it now?
I am not sure what you are talking about?

I'm referring to the part where you made an early push on rsoultin and said that you'd never ever done an early push as mafia. There is zero reason why you couldn't do an early push as mafia, if I am capable of it, then you are definitely capable of it.

I find these 2 posts together extremely suspicious indeed

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:02 Trfel wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
post 1 suggests that my entire play could come from mafia

post 2 Trfel backtracks and says it's referring to a tiny portion at the start?

it really makes no sense at all to me
There was a specific part of your play where you said "I never do this as mafia". I'm saying that there is absolutely no reason why you couldn't, it would be easy to do.

As for the rest of your play, you are capable of a high filter length as mafia. I see no reason why you couldn't produce an extremely high filter length in a really spammy game, if you really wanted to. If you're referring to thread involvement, I don't see you being involved to the point where you can't be mafia.

the fact you're characterising my play by filter length is pretty scummy tbh.

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
i want to lynch Trfel.

i don't believe he can believe what he is saying.

page 129 130 he goes after trfel


and retracted if you read on
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 04:00 GMT
#2957
On October 02 2015 12:51 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:06 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 04:04 coolTLname wrote:
On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece.

On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread.

i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way.

On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).


My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch.

On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival.


Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game.

I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute.

I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him.

Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw.



I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now.


Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia

Glowing bear u should know better of all people, why would u even say this ? It is quite ridiculous, we all know mafia does not read the thread. Why would a townie not read the thread?

OK rayn you were right he is a fucking smurf. We lynch him

so i think this is the worst reason to lynch me, everyone else had decent reasons


do you think rels is mafia for this, though?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 04:57 GMT
#2972
ah yes

there was that

you didn't notice that i also caught on to damdy's cc? he wasn't completely direct but it was still pretty obvious...if you noticed rayn i don't know why you didn't notice me :/

anyway lol hi damdy ^^ i just got finished reading a huuuuge section of the portrait of a young man expounding upon all this hellfire and brimstone sermonry...dreadfully dull tbh -rolls through the thread-

should probably go to bed now but wanted to say hi just the same
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 05:00 GMT
#2978
On October 02 2015 13:58 Trfel wrote:
If I read some filters, would anyone want to talk to me about them afterwards?


sleeping now. maybe tomorrow

you should actually keep a conversation going with me at some point instead of whining about me not addressing something then pissing off ^^ just saying
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 05:02 GMT
#2981
On October 02 2015 14:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 12:04 coolTLname wrote:
yeah i have to admit i reported him like twice now lol

well this is going to be really funny if an action is take n on this.
because i believe you made an indirect threat on my life, which i did consider not serious. maybe i should as it seems like you are serious after all...

let's see what kinda shitfest we can get out of this.


pls no -_- game is hard enough
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 05:05 GMT
#2984
On October 02 2015 14:03 Trfel wrote:
To be honest I might just want to lynch coolTLname because he is being so obstructive to the thread that even if he's town lynching him could be good.

CoolTLname, angering raynpelikoneet is not a good strategy. If he is mafia, there is no point arguing with him, since he's mafia and he doesn't believe what he's saying; he knows that you are right. All you're doing is filling the thread with useless words. Spend your time talking to other people instead. If he is town, then it's even worse because you're making two (presumably) townies very mad at each other for filling the thread with stuff that is nowhere near catching mafia.

There's just no point to do it regardless of raynpelikoneet's alignment.


takes two to tango frankly and that's why i'm trying not to get upset at people ^^ how am i doing?

you're still ignoring me :/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 05:10 GMT
#2990
ye okay lol nite

an ignored rsoul is an uninterested rsoul

rayn, assuming you're town, post-game we really need to talk @.@ i'm getting really tired of you tunneling me every game
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 05:17 GMT
#2997
On October 02 2015 14:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote:
ye okay lol nite

an ignored rsoul is an uninterested rsoul

rayn, assuming you're town, post-game we really need to talk @.@ i'm getting really tired of you tunneling me every game

yeah we can talk all you want.
it doesn't change the fact you still have zero scumreads and still don't have a read on me.


-shrugs-

you're right. i'm not giving out reads before i do my analysis, which you already know

refer to my how rsoul plays mafia post ^^

not going to just rattle off "reads" because the almighty rayn demands them

besides which, my opinions are in thread sure enough. i'll get to making them so clear an infant couldn't mistake it after i review things
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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