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On October 01 2015 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never ever fucking said so.
Are you planning on reading my posts rsoultin?
on what? like, you've been posting on me when i know i'm town so that's not really that interesting to me tbh...i know you want to lynch j roc but i'm not sure why you think gb is town
i could filter dive and still probably have questions but it would be better if you just answered...or keep tunneling me to a mislynch that works too lol ><
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On October 01 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, what was your opinion of GlowingBear early on?
(please don't just link your filter, I read your filter, I'm confused... I don't need a long explanation, just a short clarification is fine)
i thought his reaction to you was odd
and i thought his contradictory reads on me were odd
but i also thought given how he responded when rayn called him town directly after that he was looking for a reaction to the inconsistencies, because he said he thought rayn was scum
so i was like he could actually be town for that
that's really the only townie thing i saw from him @.@ and his read progression explanation on me earlier confirms that wasn't what he was doing at all
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On October 01 2015 03:56 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 10:46 sicklucker wrote:On September 29 2015 08:22 J Roc wrote:
J Roc is here
Nowatimsayin
Rayn and SL hardcore bussing each other to start the game, both think it is funny to claim mafia when they are actually mafia.
Trfel why do you have a town read on Rayn? this post is so bad I dont even know where to begin. 1. My rayn read is still open but I said i think I know his thought process suggesting he is town. Im waiting to talk to him. SO i can not be bussing him if im not scum reading him. 2. rayn did not claim mafia he claimed he wanted to role mafia. Rsoultin, this is the post I was referring to.
uhhh it looks like a reading comprehension problem more than anything and looks fine in that the conclusions follow from what sl thought he read just fine?
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On October 01 2015 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 03:55 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never ever fucking said so.
Are you planning on reading my posts rsoultin? on what? don't even pretend you don't know what i am talking about
i actually don't -_- please just answer
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On September 29 2015 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gb is town.
okay like rayn, please just help me out here ><
you said you wouldn't read anything gb posts unless you think he's scum. fine. but i can't actually find the reason for this townread? can you please just explain it? i've looked through your filter and i still can't find it @.@
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On October 01 2015 04:08 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 03:58 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, what was your opinion of GlowingBear early on?
(please don't just link your filter, I read your filter, I'm confused... I don't need a long explanation, just a short clarification is fine) i thought his reaction to you was odd and i thought his contradictory reads on me were odd but i also thought given how he responded when rayn called him town directly after that he was looking for a reaction to the inconsistencies, because he said he thought rayn was scum so i was like he could actually be town for that that's really the only townie thing i saw from him @.@ and his read progression explanation on me earlier confirms that wasn't what he was doing at all Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 08:54 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 08:52 Trfel wrote:
So basically, I asked a question to Damdred. And Damdred answered.
Then GlowingBear was asking me why I asked the question to Damdred, and if I got anything from his answer.
Then GlowingBear talked about all the things he got from Damdred's answer.
Does this seem strange to anyone else? general strange or gb strange? the stranger thing for me was him not liking his acolyte :/ but stranger still was rayn apparently being fine with gb contradictions. then again, it's gb...nhye rayn doesn't go to the townpile yet at all Are you sure that GlowingBear saying "marry me" was a townread? It feels like you're making a big deal out of GlowingBear being inconsistent with regards to his townread on you then telling me to push you. However, I'm not convinced that he did townread you early, and I don't think it's at all wrong or suspect to tell a scumread to push a townread, not that early in the game, anyway. Then even if you still feel that it's a contradiction, you partially dismiss it when talking about raynpelikoneet, effectively saying that contradictions like this don't necessarily mean much for GlowingBear. Either way, that's something that I would consider "crazy GlowingBear-esque play", which you said was missing from his play when talking to Damdred. Do you disagree?
no i'm not i just assumed it honestly
he's given me that back and forth feel without landing on a real read all game which is odd
but you're missing the point, really. i think that in the context of trying to read reactions it's a very town!gb move. outside that it's not towny at all, or crazy in a glowingbear-esque way...it's flat not having a read and not keeping his story straight cause he hasn't decided what to do with me
of course i could be wrong on the initial townread, but if i am, he sure didn't bother to correct me on it
and this is why i'm trying to get rayn to explain his townread -_-
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On October 01 2015 04:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 01 2015 00:25 Rels wrote:On October 01 2015 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv GB is most likely not mafia. You would be surprised how dumb he can be sometimes. what dumb things are you talking about this game, that he would do as town but not as mafia ? what marv pointed out. but the fact is he is at least trying to be reasonable which makes him town.
that wasn't why you read him town initially though?
i'm asking about your initial read
also...marv did say he could be reasonable as scum so i'm not sure that's a good enough reason? maybe your initial read was?
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meh
i'd say marv isn't convinced cause he said he wasn't but he still has his vote on me and honestly i'm just kinda tired so maybe y'all should just lynch me so i don't have to play
like what am i even supposed to do with this when most of my hard townreads think i'm scum for no reason? i still don't even understand why i'm being scumread tbh
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On October 01 2015 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have never read GB wrong in any game afaik except once which was when he was "too dumb to be scum" and lost that play there.
you've gotten mad at him a lot?
i dunnae i don't remember
and no no no
fuck it rayn come on
you townread him super early...this post was today! like seriously ><
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am i just misreading? that post was referring to saying he'd lynch marv if i flipped town, wasn't it?
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On September 29 2015 17:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:##unvote i don't actaully think sicklucker is scum anymore. for the record to everyone i don't actually read what gb writes unless i think he is csum and he is not scum. but i have two really good scumreads. it makes one of my posts super funny. 
this was when you unvoted sicklucker but no reasons for the townread on gb that came not long before this
i'm not going crazy @.@
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On October 01 2015 04:25 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 10:27 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 10:26 sicklucker wrote:On September 29 2015 10:14 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 10:12 sicklucker wrote:
i like how no one even trys to read me anymore. That means im doing my job you're not doing yourself any favors with posts like these who cares they dont make me mafia nothing you've done has made you town are you going to participate in the game or not? Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:
kinda don't want an sl lynch, either Can you explain how you got from the first post to the second?
yeah he started posting and keying in on the j roc/rayn thing and the approached looked pretty townie to me cause as i said before several times, it was sl-focused and self-centered reads i generally feel are town
like i know i've even explained this to you before @.@
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On October 01 2015 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 04:23 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have never read GB wrong in any game afaik except once which was when he was "too dumb to be scum" and lost that play there. you've gotten mad at him a lot? i dunnae i don't remember and no no no fuck it rayn come on you townread him super early...this post was today! like seriously >< i town read him for his early posts. i always read him for his early posts. then i ignore.
okay but what about his early posts made you think he was town?
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On October 01 2015 04:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 04:27 coolTLname wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=31So after i vote Rayn, GB suddenly shows up again and posts a lot to distract from what im saying. Also someone mentioned before that GB was being "mechanical" and i agreed. i think rsoultin mentioned that GB usually posts like a crack addict as town, and thats definitely not happening. If anything i think his reads are pretty mediocre (and im new lol ) and he hasn't been doing much reading or anything helpful except one block of text that was really hard to read, no spaces or anything. and now he suspects me, im not sure what to think about that, but i think i look town for the most part? Also if u notice, by voting me , he is making it more likely for rsoultin to be lynched, which is the bigger threat to mafia. I also noticed rels doing this same thing by sliding down his vote to me, but town prob mmm and your read is shit because i am not mafia nad you can't even fucking use that a read unless i flip mafia so you are pushing the wrong person, sir.
he has points that stand separate from the association rayn
explain the gb read please -_-
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i'm not arguing with you
i am trying to see where i'm wrong if i am wrong on gb
like you may not get this rayn, but i'm fucking town and i'm trying to lynch scum, okay? i give a flying rat's ass whether i'm pushing scum or not and i want to know what makes you so sure gb is town
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On October 01 2015 04:32 scott31337 wrote:
Where I'm at from town-y to scummy (rough order)
Maervellosity - Showing his town meta - believes in his Rsoul case and it makes sense - Rsoul called him scum lol but changed it up
Shining - He pulled out the Shining magic when he had time to come in, good thoughts - pointed out LS and helped me look him over again
Raynpelikoneet - Believing in the case - strong motives - Still thinks J Roc/I am mafia though - just a slight difference than his last game though
Rels - Showed good thoughts in re-evaluating, espically going over Rsoul
Sicklucker - He's freeflowing - nothing like how he was as Wile a game ago
GlowingBear - At first he seemed quite a bit different as last game - but he seems to have not re-evaluated Trfel after new information after I have - is on a trip (but not the D1 lynch) - his colorful list post was pretty bad.
Trfel - He was looking pretty bad, but calculated with Rsoul about being a team/not a team - made sense from a townie - looks better - not today's lynch
MoosyDoosy - Him looking for help in his "townie circle" again when he did the exact same thing when he was mafia - points about the "mechanicalness" about GB - thinks Trfel mafia - wants to lynch rayn - "if rayn flips town, i lynch coolTLname and look into rsoultin again."
Damdred - Still a mixed bag - was his anger too much? He's had a few good thoughts, but then wants to lynch GB (did want to lynch LS, which I could agree with)
LightningStrike - at first I thought it was a bit town meta - but after I re-read a second time after Shining pointed it out - there's nothing of substance. I've even pointed this out to LS, and has not expanded on it - the two/three paragraph posts are like announcer play by plays, but with out any input. Could lynch
CoolTLName - This guys views are so opposite of mine it makes me wonder - hard defends rsoul - like "Hey rayn Can you revisit me when im actually lynch target and theres not a few hours left ? Thanks." irks the hell out of me. Could lynch
Rsolutin - I like marv's case, the scummers come out to defend - had "rels / marv / scott" lynches - then I disappear - some reads are really weird - want to lynch / voting
also, rayn, why do you think your top scumread is pushing me if i'm scum?
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On October 01 2015 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 04:36 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 04:32 scott31337 wrote:
Where I'm at from town-y to scummy (rough order)
Maervellosity - Showing his town meta - believes in his Rsoul case and it makes sense - Rsoul called him scum lol but changed it up
Shining - He pulled out the Shining magic when he had time to come in, good thoughts - pointed out LS and helped me look him over again
Raynpelikoneet - Believing in the case - strong motives - Still thinks J Roc/I am mafia though - just a slight difference than his last game though
Rels - Showed good thoughts in re-evaluating, espically going over Rsoul
Sicklucker - He's freeflowing - nothing like how he was as Wile a game ago
GlowingBear - At first he seemed quite a bit different as last game - but he seems to have not re-evaluated Trfel after new information after I have - is on a trip (but not the D1 lynch) - his colorful list post was pretty bad.
Trfel - He was looking pretty bad, but calculated with Rsoul about being a team/not a team - made sense from a townie - looks better - not today's lynch
MoosyDoosy - Him looking for help in his "townie circle" again when he did the exact same thing when he was mafia - points about the "mechanicalness" about GB - thinks Trfel mafia - wants to lynch rayn - "if rayn flips town, i lynch coolTLname and look into rsoultin again."
Damdred - Still a mixed bag - was his anger too much? He's had a few good thoughts, but then wants to lynch GB (did want to lynch LS, which I could agree with)
LightningStrike - at first I thought it was a bit town meta - but after I re-read a second time after Shining pointed it out - there's nothing of substance. I've even pointed this out to LS, and has not expanded on it - the two/three paragraph posts are like announcer play by plays, but with out any input. Could lynch
CoolTLName - This guys views are so opposite of mine it makes me wonder - hard defends rsoul - like "Hey rayn Can you revisit me when im actually lynch target and theres not a few hours left ? Thanks." irks the hell out of me. Could lynch
Rsolutin - I like marv's case, the scummers come out to defend - had "rels / marv / scott" lynches - then I disappear - some reads are really weird - want to lynch / voting also, rayn, why do you think your top scumread is pushing me if i'm scum? because he does not have an option.
and truffle and gb aren't options? be real
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On October 01 2015 04:37 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 08:49 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2015 08:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 29 2015 08:43 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2015 08:35 J Roc wrote:
Town read for trfel
Nowatimsayin No Stop STAHP GB, are you Mafia again? It's pretty obvious I'm town, to be honest. honestly, i'm inclined to agree but trfel is also probably town lol Oh yeah..... This is part of the reason I was asking about the GlowingBear stuff. I believe this is also of relevance to the current raynpelikoneet/rsoultin argument.
this is still referring back to thinking he was trying to get reactions and his rayn read -_-
i just
fine
i'm done
and y'all can call me bad later for giving up but i've been at this for hours and i can't do it anymore
don't lynch damdred, shining, marv, truffle
probably not rels or cool either
i'm too upset to be able to really work well with the rest
i think scum is in gb and scott...possibly rayn but i'm leaning more town on him now
moosy...i dunnae. i almost feel like there's one between rayn and moosy and i can't really decide which cause i can see town in both really
and anyway i could just be very wrong but the top four don't lynch after i flip and probably not rels or cool either
good bye
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On October 01 2015 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Basically Trfel is not gonna get lynched here and GB is one his strongest townreads so....
he can only shoot himself into foot.
someone else needs to push a lynch from your team, sry bby.
if you're town this game i expect a very sincere apology
you've made this quite miserable for me above and beyond what probably it ever should be
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On October 01 2015 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not trying to be an idiot towards you Tina.
But the way you present your arguments is scummy as fuck.
You don't actually take any kind of a stance on my argument against you. You call marv's argument "omgus" when it clearly is not, it has been pointed out for like 10 times in this thread.
You give defenses like "i would never do this as mafia because...." which i do not believe are true, because i KNOW you have acted otherwise in games.
You misrepresent things, like cooliodude's argument one me, if you were town it should be really easyfor you to see what i was saying at the time i did it, just because i managed to mistype one word does not make it scummy like you seem to think it does.
You are not looking for mafia, rn you are looking for someone to lynch,. and if you were town you would try to convince me to lynch scott who is btw 100% mafia (with you). There is no reason you should be thinking he is town (as you don't) and if you are town there is no reason why you should NOT try to lynch him.
You are both mafia. If you are not mafia, then pfff.... You have fucked up this game totally, because you are not even trying to figure out who is mafia (no you haven't, all game). You have not tried to lynch mafia (no you haven't, all game). That is a fact.
GlowingBear is not mafia. If i am wrong on this shit you can call me bad how much you want to but i am not gonna call myself bad if you somehow happen to flip town.
And now it's too late.
i've been tunneled for 9 hours and i'm tired
i've been looking for mafia and the honest truth is i'm just not sure. i'm not fucking sure
i just think that if you lynch truffle you're lynching town and i know i'm town
like...i did respond to marv's case? and he did say i could be town? so if i didn't explain something adequately i don't know what it is and don't know what the problem is?
and i haven't fucked this game up totally because i haven't been looking for mafia...i've fucked this game up totally because when i look for mafia i haven't found it
and no, that makes me no worse than the rest of y'all because you're lynching me for...i still don't know why!
i reversed a read on marv...that's it. like everything else spawned from that and i'm very very tired
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