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On September 30 2015 22:48 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 22:47 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 22:45 sicklucker wrote:On September 30 2015 22:41 rsoultin wrote: like seriously...he was right on me LATE my first scumgame after realizing i'd hard pocketed him...i was previously his top town
that is the only time i'd say is comparable to this one and it's not remotely similar? just because the one time he tunneled me he was right doesn't make him right now @.@ he's not one of the better players at reading me by a longshot. course there really aren't any lol
the point is actually evaluate his case and decide from there
his case is just that i changed my read on him and nitnoidisms from earlier that he'd already dropped and were tonal
it's not a case on scum, and it's not strong, but regardless you should want to evaluate it for yourself @.@ oh you shouldnt have said that lol why not? cause dumb people will not notice the logical fallacy and follow it anyway? lol if i get lynched i will enjoy mocking you for your shit ass "certainty" and refusal to look at anyone else in the game and i will refer back to this game LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE TIME you attempt to say you have a good read on me because it means marv is 1 - 0 in this spot and that makes me want to vote you even more
like seriously why the fuck would i even do this as scum? someone tell me why i would
MARV TELL ME WHY I WOULD
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@.@
fuck it if the lynch is between me and trfel, 9 times out of 10 we're lynching town today
good job retards
i'm gonna clear my head and come back later...class soon anyway -_-
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let me just make this super clear to everyone first
point 1) marv is known for tunneling people who scumread him. he did it in horn, he's done it elsewhere, it's not a secret
point 2) i had him as a strong townread
point 3) no one was really suspecting him
point 4) there was a fairly wide distribution of votes
when you look at these points together, in order to call me scum, you have to assume that i chose to very noticeably reverse a strong townread to a scumread on a prominent player known for tunneling people who scumread him. you have to assume that i did this despite there being ample opportunity to get off an easier mislynch because the other wagons can't all be scum
there is no early reason for me to do this as scum when he's not a wagon, not being suspected. it's suicide as scum
town doesn't care about that. town cares about finding scum
there is 100% more town motivation to reverse a read here than there is scum motivation, because SCUM LITERALLY WOULD NEVER DO THIS
if you guys are retarded enough to lynch me anyway...gl. and i kinda hope scum wins cause i'm pretty sure marv is town and that level of derpery is ridiculous ><
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On September 30 2015 23:00 rsoultin wrote: let me just make this super clear to everyone first
point 1) marv is known for tunneling people who scumread him. he did it in horn, he's done it elsewhere, it's not a secret
point 2) i had him as a strong townread
point 3) no one was really suspecting him
point 4) there was a fairly wide distribution of votes
when you look at these points together, in order to call me scum, you have to assume that i chose to very noticeably reverse a strong townread to a scumread on a prominent player known for tunneling people who scumread him. you have to assume that i did this despite there being ample opportunity to get off an easier mislynch because the other wagons can't all be scum
there is no early reason for me to do this as scum when he's not a wagon, not being suspected. it's suicide as scum
town doesn't care about that. town cares about finding scum
there is 100% more town motivation to reverse a read here than there is scum motivation, because SCUM LITERALLY WOULD NEVER DO THIS
if you guys are retarded enough to lynch me anyway...gl. and i kinda hope scum wins cause i'm pretty sure marv is town and that level of derpery is ridiculous ><
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On September 30 2015 23:03 sicklucker wrote: I forget my reads as scum all the time. town not so much. im gonna look into what rel just posted tho
i didn't forget my fucking reads!
i changed my read!
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On September 30 2015 23:04 Rels wrote: rsoultin stop posting this fucking thing. You could have town or scum motivation to put suspicions on marv, repeating this doesn't fucking matter. What's matter is if your read makes sense or not
no, the how and the circumstances absolutely do matter -_- my read making sense matters, too, but that's actually a very strong reason against my ever being scum here
scum actually does shit with a purpose in mind i mean seriously ><
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On September 30 2015 23:06 sicklucker wrote: "t doesn't fucking make sense marv did things between this post and your scumread of him. The two main things are him defending Trfel and attacking Moosy, both things you're in agreement with"
is that true?
finish reading i already responded to this @.@
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On September 30 2015 23:06 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:04 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:03 sicklucker wrote: I forget my reads as scum all the time. town not so much. im gonna look into what rel just posted tho i didn't forget my fucking reads! i changed my read! well regardless thats certainly what a scum would say if they slipped pointless point
except my posts make it clear that i changed my read and didn't just forget? like seriously?
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On September 30 2015 23:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:07 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:04 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 23:03 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:01 marvellosity wrote: i don't understand how rsoultin townreading me earlier changes anything in the slightest about what i said. 'cause your case is based on the fact that she townread you, then scumread you when you made no posts in between i never said once about having no posts in between. OK true. That was my interpretation of the case. Then all this talking about rsoultin townreading you earlier means nothing the point of it was that she got a very strong townread on me and then about 10 players in the game (it is literally 10 players, i went from #2 towniest to #12 towniest) leapt ahead of me in the interim while i was pushing moosy or whatever i was doing. i.e. i don't believe the reevaluation for a moment
except that the reason i was townreading you i thought could be wrong and disregarding that i didn't like the rest of your play
there's nothing unbelievable about it
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you are literally scumreading me for changing my read
that is it
that is your whole case
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On September 30 2015 11:09 rsoultin wrote: eh
i kept saying buss my first newbie game. i was town. somehow i kinda doubt even newbie scum, knowing the meaning of the word buss, would slip that. what would even the circumstances of that be?
'i'm going to buss trfel now' - gb
'gb is bussing townies'
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doesn't seem highly likely to me, really
eeeehhhh something's off...has marv been pushing anything worth pushing, damdy? i know you think he's lock town, but i don't think he's ever done anything as asinine as park a vote on me with the mandate "make a post you can only make as town"...it's not a scumread at all and i have one of the most difficult playstyles to nail down, if people's difficulty in catching my scumplay is any indication
this is where i started looking back through what he did?
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On September 30 2015 23:10 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:10 rsoultin wrote: you are literally scumreading me for changing my read
that is it
that is your whole case NO IT ISN'T I EXPLAINED MULTIPLE TIMES ALL THE THINGS your fucking characterisiation like this is SO FUCKING SCUMMY
okay explain it again -_- please
like seriously, if it's something i can address so you can get on the right track i want to...i'm about this close to just saying fuck this shit and letting y'all lynch me but that goes against who i am as a person
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On September 30 2015 23:11 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:09 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:08 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 23:07 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:04 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 23:03 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:01 marvellosity wrote: i don't understand how rsoultin townreading me earlier changes anything in the slightest about what i said. 'cause your case is based on the fact that she townread you, then scumread you when you made no posts in between i never said once about having no posts in between. OK true. That was my interpretation of the case. Then all this talking about rsoultin townreading you earlier means nothing the point of it was that she got a very strong townread on me and then about 10 players in the game (it is literally 10 players, i went from #2 towniest to #12 towniest) leapt ahead of me in the interim while i was pushing moosy or whatever i was doing. i.e. i don't believe the reevaluation for a moment except that the reason i was townreading you i thought could be wrong and disregarding that i didn't like the rest of your play there's nothing unbelievable about it why didn't post this "the only thing marv did (Moosy push) is useless because of X X X" when you re evaluated ? Or did you ?
cause i didn't go through and just tick off why everything was useless?
i went hey...has he done anything notable since the reaction to the votes? i can't even remember...that's a bad sign
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On September 30 2015 23:14 marvellosity wrote:I mean I got bored of filtering myself, but just a handful of posts that aren't just about rsoultin switching her read: Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 18:34 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 18:32 GlowingBear wrote:On September 30 2015 18:28 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 09:59 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 09:56 Damdred wrote: RS rayn is town? stronger read on you and marv, but i think sohe's being malleable which is more a town trait of his...malleable for rayn, anyway i know that the scott vote contradicts that lol >< On September 30 2015 09:21 rsoultin wrote:
ye that was about it, other than agree with marv 100% on the semantics argument earlier not as interesting as you think it was rayn lol ><
strong townreads damdy rayn marv
On September 30 2015 11:09 rsoultin wrote: eeeehhhh something's off...has marv been pushing anything worth pushing, damdy? i know you think he's lock town, but i don't think he's ever done anything as asinine as park a vote on me with the mandate "make a post you can only make as town"...it's not a scumread at all and i have one of the most difficult playstyles to nail down, if people's difficulty in catching my scumplay is any indication mafia. ##unvote ##vote: rsoultin I don't see how that questioning revokes her town read on you. Could you break it down to my humble mind to understand? no, not really. if you can't see it, i don't care. i'm probably not gonna get her lynched anyway. but making me her top town (or one of two at least, going by the first post) into questioniing what i've been pushing, and specifically SAYING TO DAMDRED THAT DAMDRED THINKS I AM LOCK TOWN. well no - so does she according to her posts... why is she putting this on damdred?she's asking her top townread about her other top townread saying her top townread is doing asinine things and bleh Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 19:00 marvellosity wrote:Just to make it clear exactly why my suspicions were aroused on rsoultin, in posts that literally no-one can have missed at the start of my filter: On September 29 2015 09:07 marvellosity wrote:On September 29 2015 08:58 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 08:57 Trfel wrote: Damdred, are you staying up late tonight?
I need someone to talk to when I actually read the game properly.... you can talk to me :/ if you still think i'm mafia, you're kind of awful, tbh what have you done that is so townie you would call someone awful for not townreading you? On September 29 2015 09:10 marvellosity wrote:On September 29 2015 09:10 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 09:07 marvellosity wrote:On September 29 2015 08:58 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 08:57 Trfel wrote: Damdred, are you staying up late tonight?
I need someone to talk to when I actually read the game properly.... you can talk to me :/ if you still think i'm mafia, you're kind of awful, tbh what have you done that is so townie you would call someone awful for not townreading you? truffle specifically is slow on the uptake boring me, marv your calling people awful and calling stuff boring just makes you look scummy On September 29 2015 17:49 marvellosity wrote:On September 29 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 09:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 29 2015 09:36 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 09:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 29 2015 09:29 rsoultin wrote: -squints at-
so i'm wondering how early is too early to start reading into people setting up moving votes to me later ^^ scum will be in there somewhere It is never too early especially when you point out something relatively inconsequential in a half serious post where I list 3 other people besides you. kudos for nonsense never too early to start suspecting people saying they could lynch me meets your post is inconsequential and not serious how? are you or are you not scumreading the people in your list? -sighs- My post was what I was thinking, but I phrased it in a joking manner. I just find it strange that you're picking out one bit about yourself in a post that was phrased jokingly especially when I mention that one other person that you're townreading (Trfel) is scummy in my eyes. ^ I was just phrasing that bit sarcastically. then it wasn't inconsequential and it was serious, now wasn't it? see i'm watching this pretty mislynch forming up and i'm seeing who is taking advantage, cause otherwise they have to shoot me ^^ it's still probably early for that, though the soft scumreads still don't make me feel all warm and fuzzy about you, especially when you try to downplay them like you just did ^ mafia paranoia On September 29 2015 17:57 marvellosity wrote: i'm just gonna tunnel rsoultin till she makes posts she can't make as mafia, which she always does as town
she has not yet. yet rsoultin describes my push as asinine because it was only about wanting her to post stuff she only does as town. Well, yes, of course, but it's pretty obvious from what came before that isn't why i put her vote on her. I put my vote on her BEFORE i made the comment about making townie posts QED Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 19:03 marvellosity wrote: also, the fact remains that rsoultin hasn't made a single post that she can't make as mafia. i'd be happy for someone to prove me wrong, but "tone" isn't good enough. Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 19:11 marvellosity wrote: The massive switch is definitely part of it. It's also the way it's framed. Putting the responsibility on Damdred for Damdred's hard townread on me when she previously supposedly had one. My posts being good enough for a top 2 townread into describing me as a non-entity. Describing her vote on me as having had the desired reaction because it made me react and look town (where did that go?). [b]Describing my push on her at the start of the game in a way that puts what I did in a very bad light, and a very incorrect light.
I would think if she was suddenly suspicious of me (as town) she would at least have CHECKED, cursorily, the reasons for my mafiaread on her at the start of the game, but no. Instead it's "asinine" (when it wasn't) [/b]
regarding addressing damdred...
yes, he is my top townread, and more than that he's fucking smart and i respect his opinion, so i wanted to talk to him about my change in reads. stating that he thought you were lock town was acknowledging that i knew his previous read on you. that doesn't mean i was denying that i had you as a top townread earlier, just because i didn't mention it? obviously i had doubts at the time of this post. <- there is nothing scummy about this
regarding your early scumreads and calling your "post a town post or i'll tunnel you till the end of days" push asinine...
you didn't like my saying that truffle should know i was town...truffle knows me well and i was leaving him hints in my posts that i saw what he was doing with his opening. so yes, in my opinion, he should have. i told you it was specific for him when you commented the first time...which makes your comment moot.
you then said that me calling people awful or boring is scummy. everyone who has played with me knows i do that as town. constantly. this is nai
calling my paranoia mafia paranoia...what makes it mafia and not town? i do think that mafia cackles and takes advantage of a d1 rsoul mislynch. why wouldn't they?
and yes i think the entire mandate is asinine because i honestly don't believe there is such a thing as a post that couldn't be made as scum. by anyone. in context there are lots of things that are more likely to come from town, but i don't think there's such a thing as a pure town post? especially from me? i'm not a shit scum player except when i'm lazy lol >< and yeah, with your scumreads earlier based on so little and in my opinion extremely misguided to the point of even being retarded, i found it weird. i've never seen you do something like that before -_- you're usually more of a fence sitter
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On September 30 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:13 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:11 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:09 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:08 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 23:07 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:04 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 23:03 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:01 marvellosity wrote: i don't understand how rsoultin townreading me earlier changes anything in the slightest about what i said. 'cause your case is based on the fact that she townread you, then scumread you when you made no posts in between i never said once about having no posts in between. OK true. That was my interpretation of the case. Then all this talking about rsoultin townreading you earlier means nothing the point of it was that she got a very strong townread on me and then about 10 players in the game (it is literally 10 players, i went from #2 towniest to #12 towniest) leapt ahead of me in the interim while i was pushing moosy or whatever i was doing. i.e. i don't believe the reevaluation for a moment except that the reason i was townreading you i thought could be wrong and disregarding that i didn't like the rest of your play there's nothing unbelievable about it why didn't post this "the only thing marv did (Moosy push) is useless because of X X X" when you re evaluated ? Or did you ? cause i didn't go through and just tick off why everything was useless? i went hey...has he done anything notable since the reaction to the votes? i can't even remember...that's a bad sign mm that's not believable how could marv go from top town to lynch candidate with the following reason: "marv did nothing notable" without you checking how him pushing Moosy is not notable
because i didn't find it notable the first time i read it @.@
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like essentially marv i couldn't even see how your early scumleans made any sense, cause you've played with me enough to know that i call people awful and scummy, and i don't see how paying attention to who is jumping onto a wagon later looking for scum is mafia paranoia
to me the thrust of your push seemed to be "she hasn't posted a post she can only post as town"
which is...asinine
i mean completely asinine if you have no good reason to scumread me prior. and i would never have called those reasons you gave earlier good, or would have thought that you thought they were any good
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On September 30 2015 23:29 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:26 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:13 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:11 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:09 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:08 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 23:07 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:04 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 23:03 Rels wrote: [quote] 'cause your case is based on the fact that she townread you, then scumread you when you made no posts in between i never said once about having no posts in between. OK true. That was my interpretation of the case. Then all this talking about rsoultin townreading you earlier means nothing the point of it was that she got a very strong townread on me and then about 10 players in the game (it is literally 10 players, i went from #2 towniest to #12 towniest) leapt ahead of me in the interim while i was pushing moosy or whatever i was doing. i.e. i don't believe the reevaluation for a moment except that the reason i was townreading you i thought could be wrong and disregarding that i didn't like the rest of your play there's nothing unbelievable about it why didn't post this "the only thing marv did (Moosy push) is useless because of X X X" when you re evaluated ? Or did you ? cause i didn't go through and just tick off why everything was useless? i went hey...has he done anything notable since the reaction to the votes? i can't even remember...that's a bad sign mm that's not believable how could marv go from top town to lynch candidate with the following reason: "marv did nothing notable" without you checking how him pushing Moosy is not notable because i didn't find it notable the first time i read it @.@ I thought you liked the Moosy vote, and that's why you posted sexy Marv! Going to check but I'm pretty sure you said that
again, i already answered this
i liked the vote, the case was eh
i liked the vote cause i was scumreading moosy
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[QUOTE]On September 30 2015 23:34 Rels wrote: you did: [QUOTE]On September 30 2015 22:09 rsoultin wrote: [QUOTE]On September 30 2015 22:05 Rels wrote: [QUOTE]On September 30 2015 22:01 rsoultin wrote: [QUOTE]On September 30 2015 21:58 Rels wrote: [QUOTE]On September 30 2015 21:48 Rels wrote: [QUOTE]On September 30 2015 21:36 rsoultin wrote: [QUOTE]On September 29 2015 20:03 rsoultin wrote: in other words, no, i did not find that push noteworthy or worthy of marv as a player...i liked him voting for moosy cause i was scumreading moosy, nothing more. the sexy comment was mostly for his response to rayn's bitching and the vote, not the argument[/QUOTE] you also said the "sexy Marv" was for the vote, not the push. It is not believable. So in your timeline: 1 - marv votes Moosy 2 - rsoultin likes the vote and post "sexy Marv" 3 - rsoultin finds the push useless but doesn't say it 4 - rsoultin townreads Marv 5 - rsoultin scumreads Marv for not doing anything notable, but does not explain how the Moosy push is not notable
how the fuck do you congratulate marv for his vote and at the same time thinks his push is useless ? It's nonsense[/QUOTE]
no -_-
i called him sexy mostly for calling rayn's semantics argument shit, and liked the vote because he was voting for my scumread
why do you have a problem with this now when you didn't before?
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On September 30 2015 23:33 LightningStrike wrote: (Cuddles Tina) Tina I think you're town still and want to know your current reads atm please baby girl?
eh i dunnae ls tbh i'm leaning toward gb and rayn with a preference for gb but i've been wasting my time with this and getting frustrated
on the plus side i think rels is probably town and marv too so it yielded some fruit >< lol
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On September 30 2015 23:36 Rels wrote: because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point
why?
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