Student Mafia XV

On September 22 2015 23:54 rsoultin wrote:
This game seems full of vets already lol. I'd offer to coach, but who? Sadness :/

On September 23 2015 01:25 Fidei86 wrote:
/obs

On October 07 2015 22:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mm yeah it's actually a good idea.
i remember Ace pretty much playing the game for mafia when he was scum coach... who's ever gonna learn anything about how to play mafia there?

On October 10 2015 10:30 sicklucker wrote:
put in tictock thats what replacements are for no?

On October 10 2015 20:48 Stoicism_ wrote:


Flinging shit already, fecal?

(I made a funny ^^)

On October 11 2015 01:25 Vivax wrote:
Whoops nevermind that. We aren't supposed to talk about it

On October 11 2015 02:00 Eversince wrote:
Stoic, what's with calling Fecal out for same reason of prodding Obvious? Poking Obvious again was your next post...

Vivax has gave us a whole whopping stack of newspaper printed $100 bills. (May or may not have been scribbled all over in permanent markers.)

What's the deal?

On October 11 2015 02:16 Eversince wrote:
He introduces himself by spilling a mess of broken rules, then excuses himself on "oops I shouldn't of done that".

On October 11 2015 02:43 Eversince wrote:
I've never played on this site before... I actually had an itch to play so, I googled "forum mafia" and this place came up.
Off-site maby 10 or so games.

What does NAI mean?

What's my gaming habits outside of this forum really relevant for?

On September 29 2015 12:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I believe I will retire for the night fellow sirs and madam. I may or may not have a sprained ankle that I am currently icing and have taken painkillers for. My posts are relatively terrible after 8 PM and it is 11:30 with the influence of the painkillers. I feel like my head is detached from my neck and my ankle detached from my leg. I am relatively incoherent and I am contemplating life as I have to take my standard 1 hr or so subway transit to get to school. With my ankle that is swollen to twice its normal size and which I cannot move without getting shooting pangs up my leg, I do not wish to make the transit. Unfortunately, as I have noted previously, my parents are Asian. More unfortunately, the standard Asian parent stereotype applies to them which means that they do not give a shit about my ankle so long as I get an education.

I am currently contemplating the act of consuming a Hot Pocket purely because I wish to eat pepperoni. Disgusting.

As a result, I am having difficulty concentrating on my Statistics work and am struggling to piece together the information required to detail whether or not there is a correlation between a decrease in faith in religion and an increase in crime within the United States. As I attempt to search for data I find myself periodically gazing into space and thinking of the blood moon. I hope I can finish this homework.

I really want to eat that Hot Pocket though.

So I believe my ankle is sprained because, as I stated previously, it is twice its size and hurts to move or touch. I obtained this injury when I was enjoying a game of American football with some pals when I leapt up to catch the ball…and my friend slammed into me. I ended up landing on my ankle and hearing a few popping noises that I felt throughout my body. I shrugged it off but insisted on playing QB for the rest of the game. Anyway, I struggled through the rest of classes and hobbled home like some decrepit man. I think I will go to the doctor tomorrow. I don’t know if I can go to school tomorrow. The thing is I have a Bioethics presentation tomorrow as well.

But that’s enough about my ankle. It is very numb now as throughout the length of my shit fight with rsoul and the time it took to write this post I have been icing it. I hope it diminishes in size. Anyway, good night everyone.

On October 11 2015 03:44 Vivax wrote:
I love how when I post the actual accusations start flying

On October 11 2015 03:54 Eversince wrote:


Why?

On October 11 2015 04:01 Vivax wrote:
methinks moosy is mafia this game

On October 11 2015 04:07 Eversince wrote:
~Throws arms over head and sighs~

Really..., you two care to explain why the heck your votes are where they are at?

On October 11 2015 03:43 Onegu wrote:
Didn't expect this game to start yet just checked in before sleeping to find a day post and a role PM.

I am VT.

Really don't like gumdrops entrance just now. Seems forced to me.

Also I couldn't follow OO entrance and what it meant with his big post, maybe I'm just daft.

I like that new guy who said he has like 10 games on other sites he seems townie to me.

I'll be around for the next hour or so before sleep.

On October 11 2015 04:15 KelsierSC wrote:
so just checked the game again. I haven't really seen that much except I agree with Onegu.

A lot of serious interpretation has been made that is rather unnecessary.

On October 11 2015 04:18 Eversince wrote:
To everyone in general. Hard to form opinions when people stop talking.

On October 11 2015 04:19 Eversince wrote:
Ok, why?

On October 11 2015 04:27 Vivax wrote:


Your posts just seem muchos constructed nada natural

On October 11 2015 04:35 Vivax wrote:


Eversince, the probably town pain in the ass, has been shot.

+ Show Spoiler +

On October 11 2015 04:48 KelsierSC wrote:


so town i'm town twice

On October 11 2015 04:58 KelsierSC wrote:


no he just made some posts that felt off.

is there a magic formula that I should not care about?

On October 11 2015 05:01 Eversince wrote:



When did he say that?

On October 10 2015 20:41 ObviousOne wrote:

I will indulge of course when I return to analyse and contribute if the question is still relevant at the time, but will include the response as part of the one or two posts I make at that time. Posting less often but with more content should help to both consolidate my thoughts and continue to take the long view of the game over time. It plays well into my typical starting strategy which relies more heavily process of elimination and goes through many iterations.

Regarding my break, I stopped playing because I wasn't having fun. The threads get really long and reading them was tedious. Also, I used to be able to participate conversationally when I would go outside for a cigarette and I no longer smoke, meaning fewer check-ins. Coincidentally quitting cigarettes also kind of changed who I was a little bit, in a way that was real but also inexplicable, and I stopped enjoying some of the things I use to love and vice versa. I did play a few games on another site in the interim but the activity there is borderline (think maybe 200 posts for a day 1) which is really easy to keep up with and was a decent place to utilize my POE strategy without feeling like I couldn't contribute.

On October 10 2015 20:48 Stoicism_ wrote:


Flinging shit already, fecal?

(I made a funny ^^)

On October 11 2015 05:12 Onegu wrote:
Tinfoil. Eversince is rsoul smirf!

On October 11 2015 05:11 Vivax wrote:
Moosy did you trigger a switch that made you post less scummy since I called you mafia?

On October 11 2015 05:19 Vivax wrote:
Marv's barber doesn't just do the head you know

On October 11 2015 06:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
I am totally fine with a pressure train on gumdrop but I think you all are blowing his opener out of proportion...

On October 11 2015 06:17 Fecalfeast wrote:

Are you unvoting because sicklucker impressed you somehow? You just called him scummy...

On October 11 2015 06:20 marvellosity wrote:
page 14 and i don't think much of anything, except i'm slightly in love with Eversince

On October 11 2015 06:22 sicklucker wrote:


if I want your opinions ill give them to you. if i got shot i would be alot more mad. Like the first thought he came up with was "oh well im dead ill let the mod know hes such a good guy" like why does he care about the mod when hes out of the game? clearly he didnt care

On October 11 2015 06:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Moosey you've got a thing for pronouns, eh?

On October 11 2015 06:27 marvellosity wrote:

he is not.

but gumdrop does gumdrop things.

On October 11 2015 06:28 sicklucker wrote:


dude being mannered and slighlt frustrated is not something you expect from someone who just got shot 1 minute into a game

On October 11 2015 06:29 marvellosity wrote:
The only curious thing I saw was sicklucker questioning eversince's motives or whatever. How he got any other impression than new around here and very earnest and enjoyable is totally beyond me

On October 11 2015 07:04 Vivax wrote:


This post is not very fecalfeasty

On October 11 2015 07:55 Vivax wrote:
Seriously tho Fecal is mafia

On October 11 2015 09:58 Eversince wrote:
~Rolls eyes~


Total bogus

On October 11 2015 10:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why does it worry you moosey? If you think you're being spewed town call that person out

On October 11 2015 10:07 sicklucker wrote:


i town read moosy... opps

On October 11 2015 10:11 Eversince wrote:
I think you have no justification for you're standing.
I think the exchange between you and Sick is played out.
I think half your post are meant to be ethereal.
You're trying to appear look like you're contributing, but not actually contributing.

I wouldn't lynch you today, but you're a strong #2.
(Rephrase; I would lynch you today, but I got other people to hang..)

On October 11 2015 10:15 Fecalfeast wrote:

Who is this post replying to?

On October 11 2015 10:27 Eversince wrote:
Either I'm thinking of someone else, I can't read, or I'm totally blind.

Somethin'.

On October 11 2015 10:34 Eversince wrote:
Let's lynch Celestial.

On October 11 2015 10:40 Vivax wrote:


What's there to explain? Can't you even remember what you posted? He takes something YOU said and puts it as if it's something as I said arguing that it's true.

On October 11 2015 14:18 Stoicism_ wrote:
MoosyDoosy

I don't like Moosy. He's throwing a town read at anything that moves. His read on me and my interaction with obviousone is utterly bogus. obviousone is scum because he's focused on how people think of him, and I'm scum for pressuring him early and 'taking his response personally'. I don't feel I took it personally, I pressed him to make a read.

I find his early interactions to be mostly pointless and without any form of focused direction on finding scum. Randomly asking irrelevant questions, answering other peoples questions, applying no pressure, just a leaf on the wind. He agrees with Obviousones' sentiment of small consolidated posts and then portrays him as mafia for holding that opinion, saying he's using it as an excuse to post less.

His reads list is hollow. So many town reads thrown out within 12 hours of game start and his scum team makes no sense at all.

Obviousone

See previous posts. Gets the wait and see pass for being prickly. Not blowing me away with what I'm seeing so far.



Eversince

I like Eversince. Seems to be making sense. Seems invested in the game and scumhunting. Would not lynch today.


Fecalfeast

I seem to find myself agreeing with Fecalfeast in regards to reads. Is making sense and contributing. Would not lynch today.



And with that, ill:

##Vote MoosyDoosy

On October 11 2015 18:58 sicklucker wrote:


he followed through on a joke vote thats pretty much 100% of it. moosy getting mass towns reads is standard for him he thinks everyone is town. He thought me and my partner who were counterclaiming him to get him lynched were both town

On October 12 2015 00:19 Eversince wrote:
Mmk, I'm between classes, but I'll try to brush up and talk for an hour or so if anyone is about.

On October 12 2015 01:26 Onegu wrote:



Or you could just give it but you just vote someone when you don't even mention them in your filter.

On October 12 2015 01:47 Onegu wrote:
I said hardly mentions. And you hardly mention him. And you gave no reasons why you would be scum reading him.

On October 12 2015 01:52 Onegu wrote:
I'm talking about prior to that post. I'm talking about everything prior to you voting him.

On October 12 2015 01:54 Onegu wrote:
my point is you voted for a scum read of yours that you gave no reason to be voting for him until after you vote him.

On October 12 2015 01:48 ObviousOne wrote:

Scum OO tries very hard to be accurate as possible so there's no blowback early. I was in a rush to get around to watching a backlog of TV episodes so one "mistake" which relates to looking at things outside the context of the thread is the opposite of a scum tell for me.

In any case, Stoic is off my list for possible candidates for today.

I don't like excuses like "I was drunk" like if you can't just play when you're sober then you're mafia covering for your inactivity. KSC vote stays.

Agree that Marv's working his way to candidacy today.

On October 11 2015 10:21 ObviousOne wrote:

In what way do you mean. If youre talking about my comment regarding stoic it's that he was pretty up in my face about me being accessible to him, which of course stemmed from him not being to read my post properly in the first place, and ended up not being here all day anyway.

On October 12 2015 02:16 Onegu wrote:
Bleh.

Still not a fan of you Mossy.

##Unvote

Im fairly null on OO, just do see him that bad.

Let's do this for now.

##Vote: Marv

Touchdown Bengals.

I am still around just not going to f5 every 5 mins.

On October 12 2015 04:00 Eversince wrote:
Ahh wait, that was harsh. Sorry. It's a holiday. I forgot.

On October 12 2015 04:04 Eversince wrote:
Obvious and Onegu, there will be more though. I have rough drafts done already. I can post those if you'd like.

On October 12 2015 04:06 Eversince wrote:
Though frankly, I think Onegu's wastin' my time. I'm actually not sure why I was so irked by him a while back. His filter is meh but not really dirty.

On October 12 2015 10:08 -Celestial- wrote:


Not necessarily true. In my first game I threw an absolute wobbler over Tubesock's Spanish Inquisition, claimed Doctor in an apparent fit of pique and then spent basically the rest of the game sulking; all of which got me out of a lynch and persuaded everyone not to lynch me the day after either. And I survived as Mafia RB. X-D

On October 12 2015 10:16 The Shining wrote:


Actually wasn't that the game you endgamed me in? e.e

On a game related note, I think I'm starting to warm up to the Marv lynch. He's still not here. And FF still isn't giving me the warm fuzzies but he's made some pretty logical counterarguments to what I've brought against him. So has OO, although I find it weird OO is defending someone who wants to lynch him.

But right now, Marv is a better lynch over FF.

On October 12 2015 10:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
IDK why but when I read moose's posts they sound like TMI even though they're similar to what a lot of people have said

On October 12 2015 06:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
So I'm not reading the whole wall of text and just looking for my name.


...


Why am I trying to get both of my partners killed, shining?

On October 12 2015 10:16 The Shining wrote:


Actually wasn't that the game you endgamed me in? e.e

On a game related note, I think I'm starting to warm up to the Marv lynch. He's still not here. And FF still isn't giving me the warm fuzzies but he's made some pretty logical counterarguments to what I've brought against him. So has OO, although I find it weird OO is defending someone who wants to lynch him.

But right now, Marv is a better lynch over FF.

On October 12 2015 10:28 Fecalfeast wrote:

I did not, I have been poorly designing roads while at work.

On October 12 2015 10:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
In his post he said I was scummy with OO and marv. Both people I have said I'm ok with killing. I was saying that seems like a bad strategy.

On October 12 2015 09:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
OO's recent posts are good and I like them.

##unvote
##vote marvellosity

might as well lynch the obvious... one wait that wasn't intentional


shining you just called me out for saying moosey bused his whole team, then you say that mafia's wincon is to survive? By that logic, town's wincon is also to survive because if enough townies die the game ends...

On October 12 2015 10:43 Fecalfeast wrote:

hur dur oh noes you totally caught me wow such semantics


I literally said "I'm looking for my name" which, to me, implied that I was going to see how he read me. Seeing that I was beign read scum I looked at who else he called scum. I didn't even read WHY he called OO and marv scum

On October 12 2015 10:49 The Shining wrote:


This must be payback for me accusing you of pocketing me last game. Well played.

Nope. My pockets aren't deep enough to fit a Moose. I was just strengthening my town read on you. Considering you're not universally townread, I wouldn't have much reason to pocket you if I were scum, anyway. Thanks for asking though

On October 12 2015 10:53 The Shining wrote:


Because I'm just too good to be wrong on every single scumread I have.

Realistically I could be wrong on both but I just don't think I am. Him showing up and bleeding town doesn't make you scum, though. The points I've brought against you make you scum. Lelelelele

On October 12 2015 10:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
And to commit to a read I am now calling OO towny

On October 12 2015 10:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
In his post he said I was scummy with OO and marv. Both people I have said I'm ok with killing. I was saying that seems like a bad strategy.

On October 12 2015 11:06 Fecalfeast wrote:

I said previously that I would kill OO and marv, reads change. Which actually kinda fits shining's narrative where I can change my vote. Oh shit I'm thinking about how I appear again, better pretend I don't notice things like that or I'll get called scum

On October 12 2015 10:16 The Shining wrote:


Actually wasn't that the game you endgamed me in? e.e

On a game related note, I think I'm starting to warm up to the Marv lynch. He's still not here. And FF still isn't giving me the warm fuzzies but he's made some pretty logical counterarguments to what I've brought against him. So has OO, although I find it weird OO is defending someone who wants to lynch him.

But right now, Marv is a better lynch over FF.

On October 12 2015 11:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
I feel like there's a misunderstanding here, what?

On October 12 2015 10:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
In his post he said I was scummy with OO and marv. Both people I have said I'm ok with killing. I was saying that seems like a bad strategy.

On October 12 2015 11:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
nope, I was referencing the initial confrontation between shining and I, not my current reads

On October 12 2015 11:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
Possibly, I'm about 40 mins from closing shop however. Do you have a case or something other than compiling your filter? I'll read when I get home

On October 12 2015 11:24 The Shining wrote:


Because I don't want to vote with my scumread on another of my scumread when my first scumread has given me reasons to scum him.

But w.e do what you must. Gj on not paying attention, you didnt even know who I was voting. And yes Marv is probably the better lynch because he fucked off, whereas FF is playing but I have actual reasons to scum him. I'm following my personal read and gut over some meta bullshit because it can very well be wrong. But FF playing and posting could come from a town perspective but quite frankly idc anymore.

Everyone can keep scumming me all they want and eat a big fat...Snickers when I flip. We all know what I actually wanna say but I don't feel like getting warned.

On October 12 2015 11:48 The Shining wrote:


Oh and lets not forget! Moosy just said I'm strangely conscious about last game in the same post HE MENTIONS SOMETHING ABOUT LAST GAME REGARDING ME. Guess I'm not the only one conscious of last game, hm? Hmmmmmmmm??

On October 12 2015 11:47 Eversince wrote:
Bear with me also. I was super mad earlier. I took a rest, still wakin' up from it.
Will catch up, but it might take me a min'.

On October 12 2015 11:53 Eversince wrote:
Uhm Moosy, I am confused by that {huffs}

On October 12 2015 11:54 The Shining wrote:


Nor is it my main counterpoint. But its the only one you decided to respond to. Why is that? It's funny that that is what sparked your suspicion, though, as it means you were aware of it from the beginning of my posting which means you're just as conscious of last game. So please explain to me how that is a scum tell. I'll give you a hint. It isn't.

On October 12 2015 12:04 The Shining wrote:


Nope its pretty simple Moosy. This is the second time this game you've started doing things, and then explain them after the fact to make yourself look good. The first being the vote on OO before explaining your thought process to Onegu. Now you're trying to convince someone who vote me before you and never moved her vote to lynch me

You're clearly not reading the thread and just pushing for a mislynch here.

On October 12 2015 12:06 The Shining wrote:
Case 10/10 best case 2015. Pls lynch the actively lurking Moosy after I flip town pls and thx

On October 12 2015 12:12 Eversince wrote:
Mhm, thoughts on our exchange Moosy? Omit the irritated luggage I tossed on.(or dun', it happened, it's there and feel free to interpret it how you will)

On October 12 2015 12:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
I mean, don't get me wrong, I like where your case is going moose. Shining's explanation of marv's meta being damning but his weak read on me being based on this game isn't terrible.

I don't like the rage coming from him though. IDK people say getting mad is a towny thing but I disagree

On October 12 2015 12:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Yeah... No you're right. It's more contradictory than I first interpreted...

On October 12 2015 12:40 -Celestial- wrote:


Hey...you're going to make me blush.


Anyway...to play devil's advocate here a bit I have one question to ask about this case against Shining: to what end? What would be the point of Shining's play here? Marv is totally dead in the water. He's not here. He might even get modkilled or replaced if he's not back in time to vote. Its a very, very easy bus to get on as mafia and if he's really not about he's not worth going out of your way to save...better to get the towncred for being on a correct lynch and let everyone WIFOM all over the VCA during night time.

What's the best case scenario here for scumShining and scumMarv with that play? Shining gets FF mislynched and marv either comes back or gets replaced. But because Shining was central to the FF lynch he's under heavy scrutiny and marv (or replacement) is under equal suspicion for doing bugger all for most of D1. They end up as top two high-priority lynch candidates for D2 and when one flips red I think the next gets lynched the day after. Its a hugely risky play.

I mean correct my logic if I'm wrong here, by all means. If you're all certain I guess I'll review Shining's filter tomorrow before the deadline.


I have to go to bed in a minute, its approaching 5am here. We got just over 21 hours before the vote ends by my reckoning so...we'll see what happens. Also a vote count would be great about now so we can see where we are.

On October 12 2015 22:14 marvellosity wrote:

no, he says he understands the meta arguments against me and that they are strong and "logically" a stronger case, but he trusts his own gut on FF more.

ta-da.

On October 12 2015 22:49 marvellosity wrote:

so?

On October 12 2015 23:00 marvellosity wrote:

or a townie can think 2 people are scummy?

Just finished looking through OO's filter and it was better than I remembered while reading through the game. The commentary style / walls-of-text about self make me pretty uneasy though. He votes for Kels and spends an awful lot of text afterwards where he never mentions KSC again except asking sl about him. It's tempting to scum him for obsession with his own appearance but it seems he thinks the same way as town, so nyeh.

waffle waffle

On October 13 2015 01:13 The Shining wrote:


This misrepresentation is trash and you're scum. I did explain my "pile of contradictions" multiple times. That's why marv could so easily understand where I was coming from. Instead you just honed in on the "it doesnt make sense, blah blah blah" and completely disregarded the multiple times I said I think FF could be scum and my reasoning for WHY Marv could be a better lynch. And would you look at that, he's no longer a good lynch because he finally started playing. I'd look to see more but it's a good start.

On October 13 2015 02:21 Vivax wrote:
I'm in the lynch OO/SL/maybe moosy for his weird initial tone early before he changed after being noticed, and cause his latest argument over really nitpicky stuff felt kinda fake.

FF slightly got townier in my book.

On October 13 2015 02:33 The Shining wrote:


But yet you think you have scum caught here D1. LMAO

No I said I trust my own gut instinct. I never once said OMG ITS SO GOOD SHEEP ME SHEEP ME SHEEP ME. And Marv already explained what I already explained.

So why don't you go ahead and answer the question. What is the mafia motivation for saying one lynch is better than another but trusting my own gut because Marv could very well come back, which he did, and I don't feel like abandoning my gut instinct?

On October 13 2015 02:40 The Shining wrote:


BECAUSE HE STILL HADNT COME BACK. THAT RAISES THE PERCENTAGE THAT THE META READ IS CORRECT. BUT META IS UNRELIABLE. WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO GRASP? HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF PRESSURE? JESUS

On October 13 2015 02:53 The Shining wrote:


Shit and unreliable both mean meta is bad. It's bad because it's unreliable. It's unreliable because it can be bad.

Your picking at semantics and terminology is so horrible.

On October 13 2015 02:51 -Celestial- wrote:
I think you're arguing terminology here to be honest.

What I THINK Shining is trying to get at is this:
- The case on marv is a stronger case. However the case is, at least in part by many, a meta read and meta is a poor way to judge.
- The case on FF is a weaker case. But its based more specifically on reads from the game, so the actual evidence itself is a better way to judge.


Its the difference between getting a strong answer from a weak method vs a weaker answer from a strong method.

On October 13 2015 03:10 The Shining wrote:


That means either you're tunneled horribly or, like ES, you think EVERYONE is on a scumteam with me =D

On October 13 2015 03:21 -Celestial- wrote:


Stream of consciousness:

- Part of the initial argument with ES. Honestly to me that whole thing just feels town on town. Uninformative.

- Comments about anger and rage in mafia TL. Then funny comment to me. Nothing much there.

- "Starting to warm up to the marv lynch". Says FF is giving counterarguments to what he claimed. Marv better lynch than FF.

- Comment on people not playing. NAI. It was winding me up too.

- Replies to you well about FF's counterarguments. Don't have a problem with this bit. The next bit is admittedly a bit weird: he says marv is a good lynch but is staying on FF because FF is on marv which to him means that he's wrong about one of them.
This is faulty logic to me. marv is nowhere in sight at this point. It makes perfect sense for FF to bus him if they're scumbuddies. It doesn't have to be either/or, they definitely could still both be scum. That being said it doesn't feel especially scummy to me. Maybe a little, but more like just a questionable leap in logic.

- Calls you town. Fairly easy call to make at that point I think.

- Stuff about pocketing. Tangentially related to the game but eh.

- Conversation with FF about his reads. He's convinced one of FF and marv is scum and effectively states that even without a marv flip he has enough on FF to make him believe he's scum. Which is fine as a position to take as far as I'm concerned but I'm not really convinced by the argument against FF honestly. Nor am I convinced that only one of FF and marv HAS to be scum.

- Gets somewhat unnecessarily aggressive in a follow up about the pocketing. Seems a bit weird; although his point is sound. Nobody is going to admit to pocketing.

- Reiterates that he thinks FF is scum. Goes onto the "marv is a better lynch" thing again. But as I stated in my earlier post I kinda think that this is a case of "weak method with strong indicators vs strong method with weak indicators" and poor phrasing.

- Knocking you down in estimation for claiming he's voting marv. Eh. Standard. Tries to explain what I just said in the point above.

- Criticises FF for changing his vote from one scumread to another. Which I do actually find a bit weird honestly. FF might be scum, but he's not scum based on that.

- Last few posts seem to largely be him getting mad at you for not understanding the point he's trying to make. Capped with an OMGUS vote.


Conclusion? There's some weird stuff going on but not enough for me to make a scum call on it. I'd null lean scum on him right now, but since I can follow his train of thought (even if others can't) and it appears to make sense I'm not going to lynch him D1.

I really don't like where he's going on the FF thing though. Overnight I might reread FF's filter.

On October 13 2015 03:56 -Celestial- wrote:



I was somewhat defending Shining over the last few pages because I think I can understand his train of thought and I can see where the misunderstanding is. Why am I not on your potential list here? I know you've said you like my posting before but even so that was quite some time ago now.

On October 13 2015 05:00 Vivax wrote:
Moosy being kinda interesting cause he doesn't care that I didn't just vote for him in a scenario when he's town and im mafia

On October 13 2015 05:37 Vivax wrote:


Are you the type who surrenders when he's being mislynched or do you fight it.

On October 13 2015 06:07 Vivax wrote:


zomg i change my reads, how is that ever possible in a guessing game

On October 13 2015 06:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Actually, you're right Vivax. Stoicism_'s read on me doesn't make any sense.

On October 13 2015 06:48 sicklucker wrote:


what if your both town?

On October 13 2015 06:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
So everyone's ok with marv now that he flung shit around then left again?

On October 13 2015 07:24 sicklucker wrote:


stfu and this guy is so town. he gave up and self sacrificed last game too

On October 13 2015 07:27 sicklucker wrote:


i would vote to save moosy but id rather other people over him. his filter is full of big words so maybe he tricked me. I can say his votes and voting reasons do not make alot of sense. along with his read progresion on that other guy I cant remember. Not the worst lnch

On October 13 2015 07:31 Vivax wrote:


Then that makes you calling him town over and over again nothing but self profiling for an eventual town flip, cause there's nothing behind it and no point in posting it if you don't wanna save him

On October 13 2015 06:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Actually, yeah, let’s hit up that ObviousOne lynch.

- early and unnecessarily prickly/sarcastic responses
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- his explanation for being prickly is weird because he thought that Stoicism_ was going at him when he was actually asking an innocuous question. He also stresses that he's town for some reason:
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- easy townread on me shows he's not reading the thread because I'm actually actively lurking
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- weird focus on Stoicism_ read when I was remarking on a general trend in ObviousOne's list post. Then he goes on to pointedly remove Stoicism_ from his lynch list.
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- in light of his post about how he works to be as correct as possible, I think it's telling how he defends both FecalFeast and Shining. (I read FF as town and I'll believe that Shining is town for now)
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This post is curiously strange. He provides no reason as to why Shining is town, remarks specifically on people scum reading him, and then finds a reason to vote me.

- Some of his posts seem like they're discussing something when they're really not.
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When you look over this post again, it really just says a whole lot of nothing relevant to the thread.

On October 13 2015 07:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I mean, he did make up a BS reason to vote me, never explained why he thought Shining was town from the exchange, and made plenty of posts that actually say nothing. It's also strange how I was in his no lynch pile but somehow ended up being his strongest scum read. Also a bit intriguing that he formulates his reads on a very shallow level even thinking that I'm town when I was actively lurking. hm. Didn't like his play at all tbh.

On October 13 2015 08:45 The Shining wrote:
I mean, does scum tell me on more than one occasion to cool down and take a quick breather from the thread to not get tilted, and also defend me when Moosy was tunneling me? Knowing my alignment, he could just easily have sheeped onto my wagon instead of onto Moosy's.

Are you saying his defenses of both me and FF are TMI and pocket attempts then? Does scum really do this twice on D1?

And yeah Vivax, it didn't kind of pile on with much sense which is why I don't feel comfortable on it anymore. If I'm being totally honest, it was a mixture of OMGUS and thinking this tunnel into me and knowing my alignment means scum REALLY wants me lynched. But that's dumb cuz I'm prime lynchbait rn anyway and I'm not sure scumMoosy would incriminate himself by tunneling my mislynch this hard.

On October 13 2015 09:09 ObviousOne wrote:



It was never about the anger.


It's literally about how you can't see any possible reason for Shining to be town. A strict misinterpretation to suit your agenda.

On October 13 2015 09:18 ObviousOne wrote:

You want me to beleive you are town so I switch my vote because I can understand that you might just be bad town and not mafia and so I move my vote somewhere that has a better shot at hitting mafia due to meta-reasons and behavioral tells (marv not showing up, ergo not caring enough to participate at this critical point) and that's bad? Seriously don't vote marv and let me die so I can end this torment.

On October 13 2015 09:19 The Shining wrote:
Like I don't like the defense of not lynching Marv being "oh he's top NK". What will all you knuckleheads do or say if he ISN'T NKd?

On October 13 2015 09:39 The Shining wrote:


I don't like any of the wagons. Moosy is right in that Marv is a highly respected town player. He hasn't done much but he isn't doing nothing. I don't like that Celestial isn't here, either, while voting Marv. =/

Moosy, you said its different to say you're going onto OO to push a wagon off of Marv than to say going onto OO is pushing a wagon off of Marv?? Typo or ?? because that's the same sentence twice.

I don't think OO will flip scum, even though I thought he could've been scum earlier. The switch to put himself into lynch lead isn't something scum trying to save himself would do.

Vivax, are you still around? Who here is actually opposed to a Stoic shenanny? I think the wagons are all town and that's why so many people aren't around. Scum has no reason to push any of these wagons hard if they're all town.

On October 13 2015 09:46 The Shining wrote:


Why sigh? You said you preferred him to be the counter wagon?

On October 13 2015 09:56 ObviousOne wrote:
Hey hopefully when stoic flips red this clears moosy

On October 13 2015 10:02 sicklucker wrote:


na its not that bad it might even be pro town

On October 13 2015 09:41 sicklucker wrote:


oh i forgot about him gogo? we need 3 or 4 votes

On October 13 2015 10:07 -Celestial- wrote:


???

Why definitely have a cop? Vig shoots EoN, right?


TMI?!?

On October 13 2015 10:11 sicklucker wrote:


oh ya I forgot a roleblocker flipped interesting