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On September 18 2015 05:08 Rels wrote: Now geript what is your read on damdred ? Cause there are many scum signs so I don't understand you neither want him lynched or checked I think he's town. I'm not 100% sure of it, but I think he's town. That should be pretty obvious by the fact that I don't want to lynch him.
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That's what I remember thinking of him when I've been catching up at various points reading the thread. He's not pinged my radar which, when he's mafia, he usually does. I've understood what he's talked about and it seemed like what he talks about/picked up on when he's town.
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Like I don't have really well thought out, thoroughly developed reads on people, but the thing is that there have been a few that really stuck out to me. Fido not posting much is a big warning light. I think I posted something about him yesterday too when I thought it was deadline.
The LS points are really, really good. I don't get why people aren't sheeping them.
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On September 18 2015 05:20 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 05:19 geript wrote: That's what I remember thinking of him when I've been catching up at various points reading the thread. He's not pinged my radar which, when he's mafia, he usually does. I've understood what he's talked about and it seemed like what he talks about/picked up on when he's town. What about: His inactivity which is his scum meta according to rayn ? The fact that he gave only two obvious townreads ? He's generally less active as mafia; that's true. That doesn't mean inactivity from him means he's mafia. That's strictly not true. I can think of 2 games where he's been busy IRL and less active as town. In both those games IIRC i was able to get a townread on him D1.
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Also, Damdred only giving 2 "obvious townreads" meh. The count and amount and who on aren't that important.
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On September 17 2015 04:53 geript wrote:@Rayn, here's where I'm at: Dandel might be town but ugh. He usually hates playing as mafia often to the point of getting his team to bus him for credit. Usually as mafia he's low to super low activity, which is what I see here. It's not a 100% thing but I think it's a decent flip. LS. I think the meta thing re: questioning your martry claim without having a clear thought/reason/explanation/idea why not still feels very accurate. Another thing that in looking at his filter that really bugs me is the "people that tend to push me genearlly are mafia." I don't think that's actually true. In my experience, usually the first few pushes on him tend to come from town; but I don't think him being wrong on it is damning in and of itself as it could just be a difference in perception. The grail vote is a little odd but eh. A specific thing that bugs me is I'm not seeing him related games to current status. IE he's bringing up games, but it's not really as a marker point relating to the current state. The closest thing is when we were on a scum team in JOAT, but that's not really relational to the game states etc but commentary on how he could see something. Not sure I am explaining that one well.HTS: I kinda like her read on FF. Not a huge fan of her reads post though, specificially: Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:54 Half the Sky wrote:1
But I also know geript is a fantastic mafia player, I feel he is very capable of adapting - I see why you are saying mafia won't bus d1, but geript is someone I can see snowballing early as mafia (reference Jack of all Trades) based on gameplay. I can see him bus a fellow mafia d1 if it greatly benefits him. 1 It's really weird to have both me and LS in the scum category, especially since I can be scum because I can bus D1 for great benefit. But there's really not any benefit to bus in this setup and bussing in a no-flip setup for benefit is just a really odd thought. Fido has a few odd posts. Thinking I was mostly RPing in Personality (when I had maybe 1 rp post) and was constantly bitching about the long D1 RP/useless phase. I can't put my finger on this one yet even after staring at his filter for a bit. Maybe I'm just tired. Just get back to me on what you think and which you think is hte best lynch since ~2hrs i think.
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On September 18 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote: @geript I just haven't had a lot of time over the past couple of days. *shrug* no offence to Palmar, but I didn't sign up for this game, and if I had had time it would have been spent filter diving in Newbie XIV where we're near LyLo. I've junked a work event early to come home now, and I'll post some more detailed thoughts. Sure. I get that. That still makes you a fucking fantastic cop check. 1000% IMO the best cop check because there's very little to read you off of AND you're outside your established meta.
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On September 18 2015 05:25 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 05:23 geript wrote: Also, Damdred only giving 2 "obvious townreads" meh. The count and amount and who on aren't that important. Maybe for you but every I played / obsed with him he started by getting townreads, then poeing his way to scumread. I understand this is meta so it is unreliable, but I m not townreading him. That's fine. But it's really hard to townread LS ehre and there are multiple reasons to think he's scummy. So do you vote a null read over a scum read?
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On September 18 2015 05:27 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 05:25 geript wrote:On September 18 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote: @geript I just haven't had a lot of time over the past couple of days. *shrug* no offence to Palmar, but I didn't sign up for this game, and if I had had time it would have been spent filter diving in Newbie XIV where we're near LyLo. I've junked a work event early to come home now, and I'll post some more detailed thoughts. Sure. I get that. That still makes you a fucking fantastic cop check. 1000% IMO the best cop check because there's very little to read you off of AND you're outside your established meta. His catch up post was super logical though. Damdred saying multiple times he will catch up while not doing so is weird. No it's not. He's done that as town as well.
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On September 18 2015 05:28 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 05:25 geript wrote:On September 18 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote: @geript I just haven't had a lot of time over the past couple of days. *shrug* no offence to Palmar, but I didn't sign up for this game, and if I had had time it would have been spent filter diving in Newbie XIV where we're near LyLo. I've junked a work event early to come home now, and I'll post some more detailed thoughts. Sure. I get that. That still makes you a fucking fantastic cop check. 1000% IMO the best cop check because there's very little to read you off of AND you're outside your established meta. To make sure I'm not biased here - what did he actually post that came off as scummy to you? Off the top of my head, I don't remember. I've been pulled every which direction between 2 games, interview, acls, stuyding, etc. that I can't recall. Hell I can barely remember who I've scumread and why.
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On September 18 2015 05:27 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 05:25 geript wrote:On September 18 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote: @geript I just haven't had a lot of time over the past couple of days. *shrug* no offence to Palmar, but I didn't sign up for this game, and if I had had time it would have been spent filter diving in Newbie XIV where we're near LyLo. I've junked a work event early to come home now, and I'll post some more detailed thoughts. Sure. I get that. That still makes you a fucking fantastic cop check. 1000% IMO the best cop check because there's very little to read you off of AND you're outside your established meta. His catch up post was super logical though. Damdred saying multiple times he will catch up while not doing so is weird. I'm not trying to be mean or hypocritical, but you can to quote/link what specifically you liked and where?
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Also, IDK why anyone was voting for FF for grail. You want it on town more than anything. Put it on me or put it on Vivax. I don't care which. It's not terribly important to keep around. It's really not. Just make sure it gets on someone we're sure is town. If they kill Vivax on N1, who cares. If they kill rayn on N2, then we still likely only keep the grail for 1 day. Big thing is though just make sure we've got it cleared on town.
FF isn't anything close to obvious town. Hell his run for it is actually really odd b/c from what I remember of him he spent more time focusing on getting it than commenting on the thread.
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On September 18 2015 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 05:34 geript wrote: Also, IDK why anyone was voting for FF for grail. You want it on town more than anything. Put it on me or put it on Vivax. I don't care which. It's not terribly important to keep around. It's really not. Just make sure it gets on someone we're sure is town. If they kill Vivax on N1, who cares. If they kill rayn on N2, then we still likely only keep the grail for 1 day. Big thing is though just make sure we've got it cleared on town.
FF isn't anything close to obvious town. Hell his run for it is actually really odd b/c from what I remember of him he spent more time focusing on getting it than commenting on the thread. How much time have i spent in filters before making my comments on the thread? You're just assuming how much time I've put into the game and that's not cool. I'm not saying you're wrong about my projecting town but to cite the time I've spent is something you can't actually prove... For having spent a "bunch of time" in filters, your filter doesn't show it whatsoever.
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On September 18 2015 05:36 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote: I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly. okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die? Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline  Here it is So how do you get a townread out this post exactly?
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On September 18 2015 05:40 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 05:31 geript wrote:On September 18 2015 05:27 Rels wrote:On September 18 2015 05:25 geript wrote:On September 18 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote: @geript I just haven't had a lot of time over the past couple of days. *shrug* no offence to Palmar, but I didn't sign up for this game, and if I had had time it would have been spent filter diving in Newbie XIV where we're near LyLo. I've junked a work event early to come home now, and I'll post some more detailed thoughts. Sure. I get that. That still makes you a fucking fantastic cop check. 1000% IMO the best cop check because there's very little to read you off of AND you're outside your established meta. His catch up post was super logical though. Damdred saying multiple times he will catch up while not doing so is weird. I'm not trying to be mean or hypocritical, but you can to quote/link what specifically you liked and where? Will quote my post I made at the time In exchange can you read / comment my dandel case ? Cause we re starting to talk about a lot of things but I'm still pretty sure he's mafia I have, but tbh I don't remember much of it. I do remember looking at Dandel's filter sometime around this morning or lunch and seeing far more than I expected with even a few hints of thoughts. My inactivity read on him doesn't feel as right as I would've liked.
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Inactivity thing I'm very waffley on right now.
Point 2 is maybe ok. IDK. Dandel puts in literally 0 effort as mafia. But if he's going to fabricate shit he usually tends to be mostly right. I think he would've caught that as mafia.
Point 3. Meh. There were a few points where I thought you might be mafia. Fuck if I know why now. So attacking you meh. Especially when said "attacks" are pretty bland.
TBH, the case just comes off as biased.
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IE. like you want him to be scum more than you've proven that he's scum.
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Rels, I think there's cross talk here. I've been mostly referring to LS and I think my lack of clarity is mixing up who we're talking about.
I'm fine with not lynching Fido, but I do think he's a decent check.
I was asky why you think LS is town. Like that LS read from Fido is pure chainsaw; doens't mean anything, but there's not a good reason to say "hey, LS is town here." I get that LS quite often gets himself in trouble early on; but that's true of both alignments in my experience. Hell, he resorted to bussing really hard when it was really bad to in JOAT to "feel comfortable" and get out of "called scum" zone.
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On September 18 2015 05:49 Vivax wrote: I'm about to take my leave as I don't have permanent internet access for still like 1-2 weeks.
Going to vote Damdred as I am still not impressed by his plaý and he seems to have the best chances of getting lynched among my suspects.
I really think BM is mafia but you aren't convinced. Well, enjoy having him around I say, whatever happens I'm going to die tonight.
Remember this: My death will be announced if I die by martyring. Not sure if the actual target will be revealed atm and dont wanna check. Anyway the point is that whoever was targeted can as well role claim since mafia will know his role even if I sacrifice myself for him. DON'T EVER USE YOUR ROLE PERIOD
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Last time, Palmar only announced that martyr martyr'd for someone and not who they martyred for. I don't think the martyr's target becomes confirmed town. So don't give them a free rolecop after claiming. it's literally usless
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