Newbie Student Mafia XIV: Firefly - Page 2

On September 06 2015 23:48 scott31337 wrote:
I could lynch boxer but it feels like policy really.

On September 06 2015 23:48 scott31337 wrote:
I could lynch boxer but it feels like policy really.

On September 06 2015 15:13 n00bKing wrote:
Reading Scott's filter was fun btw, as relates to me. He seems to mention again every couple of posts that he feels I should be the lynch, but has never once articulated why. The closest thing you ever get from him to a "case" on his lynch target is that he thinks my posts are "bad." That's all you get. He then randomly places his vote on me, without explanation. In fact, the post where he votes against me is exclusively about other players. There is nothing at all in it that is about me, except for the unexplained vote.

Later we get "D1 lynches right now are GB and N00bking and voting n00bking" but still no explanation (not even a half-assed one) for how it would make any sense to make n00bKing the Day 1 lynch.

And then "I want GB or n00bking lynches though." Still no explanation for why he might want a n00bKing lynch.

And then "Who are your top three scumteam? Right now for me it's GB/N00bking/Boxerfred but that's too easy" and yet again, still not even an ATTEMPT to tell anyone why he might think n00bKing could be on the scum team.

But best of all is this list:

All 13 players are there. And there are only TWO of them that he has no notes for. One is himself. It just says "town." He has no notes on that player. No comments. No analysis. No nothing. And that makes sense. If he wants us to think he's playing from a Town perspective, then that one word is all he needs to have on that player. The other person he has one word and NO notes for is THE PLAYER HE'S VOTING AGAINST. No notes. No comments. No analysis. No nothing. Just parks his vote there and then proceeds to talk in detail about anything and everything BUT his lynch target. That's the one thing that always just gets glossed over quickly, and that you never get any detail about.

On September 07 2015 00:35 Fidei86 wrote:
I just re-read 817 NM, what were your thoughts on it? I don't think that "that's just how I play" is ever a good excuse for scummy play. But then again, like I said before, I don't see any particular reason to scum read her for her play. I admit that I might be biased because I've played voice Mafia with cake and she seemed very nice. But in those games she was always town and she got scum read a lot. Her responses in this game have reminded me a lot of how she played then too.

So, yeah, I won't vote to lynch her today. I'm going to go back to Slam's filter again. You said he plays with a lot of filler always - I need to try and find some of his substantive posts to really wrestle with.

On September 06 2015 06:59 NocturneMage wrote:
Going through Copcake's filter as one of the issues requested - some leans I see from both alignments.

mafia - the reads on glowingbear make zero sense. First she asks him how is rayn mafia then there's zero to little follow up on gb until her list post. But there her read still doesn't make sense - if gb doesn't care whether he dies or not shouldn't that make him town? the mafia need to try and survive, at least that's what gb (lol) told me in the mafia qt from my last newbie game. Anyways, also expanding on the useless details might help here - because I saw where he returned a rebuttal on rayn's read on breshke - didn't think that was useless for example.

- also post 611 on moosydoosy - if moosydoosy is paying too much attention to her isn't that a towntell if he's pushing her? Or at least not alignment if he has to defend himself? I read around that post and I don't see how moosy is being "antagonistic".

- read on slam - alright I don't know either of her or slam so I will ignore meta. But to say that slam is town for not being antagonistic like moosy or n00bking - this is not exclusive to mafia, I just got done finishing observing the personality game and Mr. Nice Guy in Judge Judy carried mafia.

Basically this read is a bad reason to read Slam town, I am finding most of his posting nonsensical at best but for the reasons you specified it's a poor reason

Those are scumtells, admittedly your read on moosy and you pushing him is a town action, so I'm going to say a null to scum lean on you for now.

Also since you mentioned it what do you mean by pocketing? I'm sure I've heard it in my only other game but I forget the meanting now.

On September 07 2015 03:18 CopCake wrote:
How are my reads "bad" ?

I don't get that part

On September 07 2015 01:40 Fidei86 wrote:
@n00bking

What the hell are you talking about? Information on a BF lynch? The dude has made like two posts, and the only people who have said anything are Scott and Cake. This is just such a bad argument, I don't even know where to begin. I was pretty sure you're town, but you keep digging yourself deeper and it's getting harder and harder to keep town reading you.

All that sort of contradicts with my view that we should lynch BF. Policy and posting are two totally valid reasons to lynch him imo. "Information" just isn't.

On September 07 2015 05:18 Alakaslam wrote:

Back for a bit :D

Yes. I was crafting a n insane theory late at night, after going to sleep and looking at it the next day, I concluded I was in a loony tunnel and dropped it immediately.

On September 07 2015 01:05 boxerfred wrote:
I think the best thing for me to do right now is to try to appear townie and pretty much try to not get policy lynched. As far as I've read, n00bKing appears to not contribute a thing, asking questions that are not related to anything important or even useful. Feels like a lot of fluff to appear active.

Skimming through CopCake's filter, I just see some hard to read posts and pressure on n00bKing, not too much evidence being brought up, just a vote. Nothing substantial although it feels like there's a high grade of activity (his filter is like 10% of the overall game by now) and she's also trying to argue and explain - so I probably wouldn't give it a scum lean.

However I'll take some more time and try to catch up, I'll probably be around EoD. No guarantee on that though, I'm tired as fuck and also ill, chilling with my laptop in my awesome bed.

I also want to say something about rayn: I shadowed him in one of the last games where he was town. He told me quite a lot about how he plays as town and there are some points that he told me that really hit this game: 1. he said he sucked at convincing people, and 2. he said he'd sometimes get really mad about other people. I think rayn is town.

On September 07 2015 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Last mafia is probably NocturneMage.
He intentionally avoids talking about anything brought up on noobking.

On September 07 2015 05:50 Superbia wrote:


People's opinions on this?

On September 07 2015 05:55 yamato77 wrote:
Scum GB does not necessarily make sense. His reads do not mean anything. He even has this little contrived idea of scumreading one town and one mafia, and townreading one town and one mafia. Reading him based on thread flow is bad.

He is, however, effectively opting out of any serious lynch discussion and seems absolutely content with the lynch going through while his vote goes elsewhere. His motivations? Perhaps to distance himself from the lynch and appear to have his own ideas. As town I think GB would be more vocal about a realistic lynch choice.

On September 07 2015 05:58 Superbia wrote:
I think GB's view on scott is pretty okay.

On September 07 2015 06:47 Superbia wrote:
Oh yeah. Opinions on noobking/glowingbear/copcake please pre-flip. From everyone.

Noobking- Mafia
Glowingbear- Neutral (town-lean before but yamato/rayn buttfucking town-lean)
Copcake- No idea.

On September 07 2015 07:18 Fidei86 wrote:
Ugh. Claim has any likelihood of being true? I think we should switch off.

On September 07 2015 07:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:

this guy is scum.