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Message Blazinghand if you request a ban please ^_^ Also when the game you're sitting out is over! | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
On November 05 2016 21:20 Race Bannon wrote: ^ Who the fuck are you, bro? Thanks for the sitout, but no thanks, I can't be the boss of the underworld without having the most bans. Respect is everything, see? Myeh Anyway, I got this idea for a haunted Halloween voice forum mafia game. Vocal input is recorded and then embedded into a post as usual (.ogg in audio tag), but players need to speak backwards. To figure out how the things they want to say sound like when played backwards they need to record, reverse, and mimic it. ... I've tried this now, and it seems next to impo§ible. So nvm. Maybe once we invent and become fluent in a language which makes this easy, elegant and practical, as opposed to english which is horrible at it. On November 08 2016 08:12 N0 wrote: *excerpt from private correspondence with Race Bannon. Subject: beef? Yes; someone with an automated post-delaying mechanism, or a bundle of 4 players --representing the 4 chambers-- consisting of an American, a Yurpeean, an Asian/Australian and a Pacific Ocean, would have an easier time. Simply put, if N0 is not Race Bannon, then Race Bannon's needed sit outs should be still at 5. And yes, RB is prob. trolling. But this does matter if N0 =/= Race Bannon. So RB either has to clear it up that he is N0, or state that he isn't for fair justice. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On November 08 2016 20:47 N0 wrote: Flavor suggestion 4 Shapelog game: Royal Bastards vs Royals quasi: https://soundcloud.com/frankjavcee/cant-hold-us-royals-macklemore With the advent of modern surgery, specifically organ transplantation, a new threat to humanity --a thought bubble so persistent and inhumane-- if the truth about it brands your retina it cannot be unseen, spawned and gained public relevance; so beware, and beware and warning. The wealthy, powerful and needy of a long lifespan have proactively fathered children with members of slave castes, to ensure yielding superior organ harvests to replace theirs, hijole! Experiments with reverse DNA atu-implementation ushered in hybrid clones whose organs pose even less of a rejection risk, when inserted into the beneficiary. But something went wrong. Information leaked, and the subjugated bastards decided to insurge and to lay bare the identities of the pure "royals", the half-siblings who hide among them, and probably string em up while their fathers Rels, Grack and their cool uncle Tumblewood are forced to obs. Among the most intelligent slaves are those who worked and invented technologies and operated gadgets for the royals, the quasi royals. They have merged their DNA with the clones in another spacetime dimension, a portal the gateway to which they've kept open for 5 years from now and prior to now, since time ripples equally back and forth if resources for the temporal locust swarm waves are in equi-time-distant abundance, but the information war has fractaled the lore and the knowledge on how to operate the portal's continuum so wtf? The quasis are more badass than the mere organ banksters, having brainstormed and deduced some of the investigative and protective science, and they've joined forces against the royal progeny. Shapelog, the Gifted Trade Kingpin died on N0 as a result of a consensus that his gifs aren't sufficiently funny anymore to warrant the horribleness that is posts like this attempt at poetry? If this aint Race, its very very good impersonator. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On November 08 2016 20:58 Skynx wrote: If this aint Race, its very very good impersonator. I think N0 claimed to be Race earlier in the thread. It just he forgot his password or something to his main account lol. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17958 Posts
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N0
154 Posts
Don't think sitting out on someone else's behalf should weigh less than an orthodox sitout by the banned person, like Shapelog does, but that's just me. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain17958 Posts
On November 09 2016 00:24 iamperfection wrote: You can't sitout for someone else. Do the honorable thing make a smurf change your iP and pretend to be a new player. kushm4sta, is that you? | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
And don't fuck up I forgot that part | ||
cakepie
985 Posts
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Calix
3379 Posts
On November 09 2016 03:04 cakepie wrote: Banlist actions for [W][M][N] Newbie Student Mafia XXIV:
In my opinion, NU's punishment should be a 1-game ban. I feel that you are understating the effect that his mod-confirm attempts had on the game. It affected how other players read him (e.g., Rels claimed that his main reason for town-reading NU was because he posted his MafiaMetric read) and he clearly intended to game his 'mod confirm' to his advantage. He went as far as to threaten to 'make my experience in the game a living hell' if I did not agree that he was town for that sequence of events. It is unacceptable to make that sort of threat towards another player based on OOG influences. He has clearly not learned from his warning last time about mod confirms, I do not think he will learn anything this game given his history (off-site as well as in Cruise Mafia) and this slap on the wrist. A ban sends a clearer message that this behaviour is not something that is acceptable. Nobody's experience in the game was made better or more enjoyable because of NU's attempts at confirming himself. On the contrary, the majority of players disliked it. (side rant: people really need to stop doling out town-reads when people do this. It's anti-town and encourages this sort of behaviour) | ||
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NeverUnlucky
Canada1622 Posts
On November 09 2016 07:53 Calix wrote: In my opinion, NU's punishment should be a 1-game ban. I feel that you are understating the effect that his mod-confirm attempts had on the game. It affected how other players read him (e.g., Rels claimed that his main reason for town-reading NU was because he posted his MafiaMetric read) and he clearly intended to game his 'mod confirm' to his advantage. He went as far as to threaten to 'make my experience in the game a living hell' if I did not agree that he was town for that sequence of events. It is unacceptable to make that sort of threat towards another player based on OOG influences. I would not mind having a 1-game ban. However, I do think that it is important to keep the context of the posts you are quoting authentic not to besmirch me. The 'mod-confirm' happened when cakepie announced that MM submissions could be done at any time which coincided with me claiming that I had sent my reads before midday. Rels did not town-read me for this coincidence but rather for my slip of posting my MM reads and for my play matching what he knew of my town meta. Also, while I agree that I went too far with the « make your experience hell », I am still displeased that you are misrepresenting what I said. Not only is the « quote » you took from me inaccurate, but it is also taken out of context. Here’s the real quote : On November 04 2016 03:06 NeverUnlucky wrote: I was unclear. EBWOP: I had to deal with her shitty case, I could not ignore it. She ignores my response and all that comes with it. That's not only unfair, it's also scummy as hell because she is not willing to reconsider her read WHICH SHE SAID WAS A SCUMMY BEHAVIOR. I'll make her game hell as long as I'm left ignored. I did not threaten you because you did not town-read me but rather because you ignored my responses to what you presented as a case. The mod-confirm again has no correlation with this. He has clearly not learned from his warning last time about mod confirms, I do not think he will learn anything this game given his history (off-site as well as in Cruise Mafia) and this slap on the wrist. A ban sends a clearer message that this behaviour is not something that is acceptable. Nobody's experience in the game was made better or more enjoyable because of NU's attempts at confirming himself. On the contrary, the majority of players disliked it. I have no off-site history of trying (or even talking about mod-confirms) to get mod-confirmed over the dozen games I have played. I have no clue where you are taking this from. Cruise Trip Mafia and NSM24 were the first games in which I [tried to] game[d] the system, and I am making it a promise that they are the last ones too. I have learned plenty from this last game. I even took the time, by my own initiative, to privately contact the host and the concerned players to apologize about both my toxic and game-breaking behavior which shows that I have admitted and acknowledged that mistakes were made on my end and am willing to change. In fact, that is more than you have done when you insulted me too. It is frankly disheartening that you think of me as someone who’s unwilling to learn from his mistakes. Punishment does not necessarily make one understand that his behavior is unacceptable and that he should not repeat it again. Look at PLZLEAVEDUCKK getting banned more than three times for being toxic and still making the same mistakes as before. I am not oblivious to what others thought of my play; I have read the thread as well as the observer QuickTopic and have privately exchanged with players after the game. I am conscious of what people’s thoughts were on my behavior and that it is not suitable. Through guilty conscience I have learned much more than what a punishment could make me learn as the message “that this behavior is not something that is acceptable” and that I need to make some adjustments was sent to myself by myself instead of being told by someone else. I apologize to everyone for tainting / ruining their viewing / hosting / playing experience this game. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On November 09 2016 00:07 N0 wrote: that ^ would be a funny precedent. I didn't claim RB was my main, I said "for all intents and purposes", but nice try. I can find out his password ezpz though. Don't think sitting out on someone else's behalf should weigh less than an orthodox sitout by the banned person, like Shapelog does, but that's just me. Are you the same person as Race Bannon? | ||
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cakepie
985 Posts
Did the 'townslip' skirt existing rules about citing role PMs and communications with hosts? Yes. Was it against the spirit of the game? Yes. Was NU really obnoxious about waving it in people's faces throughout the game? Yes. Did it break an explicitly stated rule? No. That last -- the absence of an explicit rule -- is why I hesitated to modkill on the spot for it during the game, and I hesitate to request an outright ban here as well, since the omission was my fault. While Cruise Mafia was clearly probing the boundaries of the rules to try to find a loophole to exploit, I don't think NSM24 is as clear cut. In particular, I'm not sure it's provable that the 'townslip' was not an accident but an intentional, engineered play (even though he certainly did try to milk it for everything it was worth). On November 09 2016 07:53 Calix wrote: He has clearly not learned from his warning last time about mod confirms, I do not think he will learn anything this game given his history (off-site as well as in Cruise Mafia) and this slap on the wrist. A ban sends a clearer message that this behaviour is not something that is acceptable. I don't believe we have any precedent for using off-site history? Let's not go there. Re: Cruise Mafia, I wasn't around then, but from what I can glean from thread+obs, hosts resolved the matter via PM while game was underway. I'm not sure if there was a post-game talking-to -- what I see is that the matter was mentioned in passing in btdt's postgame, banlist warning was requested and approved, and that was it. Not sure if a strong "respect the spirit of the game" message was conveyed or if all he got from it was "don't quote PMs" -- perhaps btdt or rels could clarify. Not a peep from NU about it at all post game. What is definitely different this time is that in light of public disapproval, NeverUnlucky has publicly accepted responsibility and apologized for his behavior -- this was notably absent after Cruise Mafia. I think this is important, because now we can hold him to his word. Unlike unrepentant offenders who keep arguing and looking for excuses -- for which punitive measures are unfortunately the only remaining course of action -- there is an opportunity for reform here. Here's how I see it. You could press for a one game ban here (two if you +1 from the cruise mafia warning) and he has to sitout for ~3-7 weeks, that's about it. But if we instead stack two warnings (cruise, nsm24) he will need to complete six games issue-free to have both those warnings removed. If he offends in any way, at any time during those games, these warnings will add to the punishment there for up to a very credible 3-game ban. In effect, it is like having a suspended sentence -- it puts him under a good behaviour bond for a duration of six games. I feel that this would be far more effective way to help him correct his behavior. | ||
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N0
154 Posts
On November 09 2016 14:25 Blazinghand wrote: Are you the same person as Race Bannon? + Show Spoiler [no] + Your question should be irrelevant to banlist policy. If someone else wants you to continue to play mafia by sitting out a game for you then you probably can't be that big of a douche. And if a smurf does the sitting-out for the main then its an orthodox sitout. Therefore both should count. The real question is, would you have proceeded to remove a ban off him if he hadn't protested. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17958 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On November 09 2016 00:07 N0 wrote: that ^ would be a funny precedent. I didn't claim RB was my main, I said "for all intents and purposes", but nice try. I can find out his password ezpz though. Don't think sitting out on someone else's behalf should weigh less than an orthodox sitout by the banned person, like Shapelog does, but that's just me. On October 13 2016 01:54 N0 wrote: I am sitting out Dota 2 Mafia on Race Bannon's behalf, .. which is to say I'm RB but I forgot the password to my main for all intents and purposes. Cheers :-~ Mafia | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17958 Posts
You convinced me. I voted (aka reported) him. Now we'll just wait for the flip (aka as banhammers) sort it out. It might take a while. The US politics thread probably has them occupied for the next 4 years. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
His stuff in the other game should have been (wanting to get modkilled or whatever). | ||
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beentheredonethat
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