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twisted my arm :/ | ||
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FREEDOM!!! | ||
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<< maybe if we squall loudly enough, the rest of these chumps will show their faces (euros must already be in bed :/) | ||
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On August 11 2015 11:06 Trfel wrote: I'm hoping I can play this game pretty seriously. Remember all those questions I asked pre-game? I can be pretty darn annoying for hosts to deal with when I play seriously  but but but...serious is so boring, truffle wuffle :/ | ||
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On August 11 2015 11:08 Trfel wrote: Well, weren't you one of the people who were annoyed by my constant off-topic discussion last game? Contradiction, obvious scum! oh noes ;o; you already caught me i guess i concede -_- | ||
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On August 11 2015 11:10 Trfel wrote: Wait, you were scum last game... So playing differently from last game should mean that you are town in this game? But you already conceded, so you're scum in this game... Meaning that you were town last game, and we should have won after all! Must have been host error. unassailable logic, truffle. however do you do it? xP | ||
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On August 11 2015 11:14 Trfel wrote: Natural talent. It's why I was killed Night 1 in my first game of mafia ever (with only two games of in-person experience, too). Unfortunately, for simpletons like you, it's not really something you can hope to obtain. lol asshole >< i dream of the day i get n1'd! oh, wait... heh, well...doesn't look like this place is gonna get lively any time soon :/ hearthstone? | ||
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what do people like so much about being sweaty, anyway? just come to texas lol @.@ walk outside and it's an instant lather! kk i guess i can entertain myself for awhile :/ | ||
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On August 11 2015 11:19 Damdred wrote: ....hrm hrmmm hrmmm it's a damdy! | ||
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On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote: I know this sounds really stupid, but... Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game. I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T i already conceded o.0 god you're slow lol >< | ||
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>> does it come in anything less than 30 mins? lol | ||
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On August 11 2015 11:27 Damdred wrote: Hrmmmm kinda have a town read now its nice, but I might be a bastard and mess with RS nuuuuuu ;o; don't channel the oneg, damdy :/ i can only handle one oneg a day lol >< | ||
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no rush lol >< mmm townlean sorta maybe on a truffle lol >< i was actually more fine with him until his read on me | ||
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On August 11 2015 11:38 Damdred wrote: Then dissapearances happen. do you disagree with my tr rs eh, seemed a touch overexplained? but then again, it's truffle >< lol i doubt he can play with me that easily as scum with our history together ^^ | ||
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On August 11 2015 11:40 Damdred wrote: If you are talking about this post, yes it is the one thing stopping me from having a strong town read on trfel. With how much you played with trfel it is just weird for an early read. heh ^^ yup that's the one | ||
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mostly just that it's early and i'd expect some more hemming and hawing rather than just a caveat at the end? | ||
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On August 11 2015 11:48 Damdred wrote: kinda hope a big shoots chez XD so I can ignore him or hope he says smart things. lol >< lovely | ||
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On August 11 2015 11:56 Damdred wrote: I'm not a chez qhisperer nor can I read him reliably. However I'm sort of doubting that you would doubt that read trfel made on you for those reasons rather than better ones. like just fooling him last game in gaiden ones? xP | ||
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loose with the joking, tight with the read, but the humor's on point :/ lol though tbf the not hemming and hawing bit is tone...that's what he usually does. indecisive bugger anyway, i'm out nite damdy! | ||
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On August 11 2015 18:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I honestly don't think I mind the read as much as the first and last line. The arguments itself suggest he's pretty certain ("hard for me to see her... be mafia") yet both the first and last sentence seed doubt about his own argument and make it more likely it's ignored. this, this, this lol >< the artie is more articulate than me apparently ^^ not surprising although kinda not this? sorta this hrum more like hey guys i'm not sure but no reasons as to why he's not in the read itself? kinda getting the feeling it's just uber nitpicky now, though lol >< also, damdy, i don't really understand the distinction you're trying to draw :/ my impression of truffle reads are written arguments with himself but uh...okay? nh...ruxxy isn't happy this game? whyyyyy? | ||
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kinda like artie and truffle (after i went to bed, sneaky  )mmmm ye \o/ errands time! | ||
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On August 12 2015 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: \o/ ruxxar \o/ my dancing man ;o; thief viva makes my do not lynch list, and yes, when i include (trying really hard not to start the read you dimwit stuff this early -_-) truffle in a second tier kinda like list, that's a townread bueeeeno @ve i'll switch you my name ^^ | ||
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On August 12 2015 01:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin please help me out here. What is going on in your head? what don't you understand? | ||
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On August 12 2015 01:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: fucking fuck. It was all messed up. EBWOP: town indecisive(?) indecisive scumlean(?) town That's about half of her posts (which are not joking with Trfel). It should not be that hard to come to a conclusion. oh lol i guess i should finish reading normally i'm more certain on a read? his read on me through my toneread off, because as i said even though he expressed doubt in his post, that doubt was nowhere in his actual reasoning; he's usually all waffly like an angel on one shoulder whispering why a player is town and a demon on the other whispering why they're scum lol >< sometimes i feel like when he posts he's actually filtering out his own read into plus and minus columns with all the possibilities something could be? i didn't see that in his read which was eh i've been pretty fine with him otherwise, though lol >< the chez could be scum thing is kinda >> well, truffle is pretty prone to omgus and i'm kinda curious how chez got the two votes on him too? not as strong as i'd like but i'm thinking he's town, as it shows in my post (you clearly missed the "uber nitpicky" part when you were calling me indecisive rayn ) | ||
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On August 12 2015 02:25 Vivax wrote: Rasputina, how did you get a read on me without at the same time getting one on the foxy ruxxy? hm? i'm still reading. you're easy to read lol >< ruxx...hm i dunnae about him. seems like his posts aren't constructed, but saying he wasn't going to pretend to be excited made me itchy :/ cause his posts earlier than that felt a bit like forced cheeriness (what does ruxx have to do with you, exactly?) | ||
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On August 12 2015 02:30 Vivax wrote: You have a bit of a non-opinion on the foxy ruxxy there. I figured most people would get a good read on me from his interactions with him. Why aren't you among most people? :/ lol i got a good read on you from your posting in general, including your interactions with him i'm rsoul! \o/ when am i ever like most people? found the chez explanation which is kinda interesting o.0 ye, i'm not sure what ruxx is on about really but stupid/nonsensical doesn't make him scum. i'm more concerned about the lack of bounce with a clear attempt to look bouncy early game | ||
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On August 11 2015 15:51 ruXxar wrote: Hello team. My name is ruxxy and I'm a hurricane *whoosh*. Also am town ^^ On August 11 2015 20:44 ruXxar wrote: I'm a scum hunting machine, my methods are unorthodox and poorly understood. I'll see scum where there is none, I can't help myself. It's not a strong scum read, but it's my strongest yet. I have a trap laid out that might resolve. #battraps (No modkillerino geript q.q) On August 11 2015 22:44 ruXxar wrote: I lost a lot if motivation after the last game. My mood is not bubbly today. O well. Not gonna fake excitement when I'm not. ^ namely, this for not faking excitement, the posts i just quoted seem like exactly that lol >< faked excitement | ||
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On August 12 2015 02:39 rsoultin wrote: lol i got a good read on you from your posting in general, including your interactions with him i'm rsoul! \o/ when am i ever like most people? found the chez explanation which is kinda interesting o.0 ye, i'm not sure what ruxx is on about really but stupid/nonsensical doesn't make him scum. i'm more concerned about the lack of bounce with a clear attempt to look bouncy early game to clarify, the main thing was your palmar push i don't have trouble seeing town!ruxx having trouble with your palmar push, frankly, cause he's new and i don't know that he'd understand that you're trying to get palmar to play? i personally think palmar's easier to read when he's tryharding lol >< but i could tell where you were going with it before you explained and the explanation lined up with what i thought it should be the eeyore-ness is not very ruxxy though :/ also, misogyny. i had to look it up and i don't know why it bugs me but it does lol >< maybe i should ignore that though cause i got hung up on words like that in desert with hf | ||
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i don't like him much, either, but i didn't particularly like him last game? | ||
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you're saying he gave reads in the other game, or...? i honestly can't remember much beyond the cop claim. maybe i should look @.@ | ||
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On August 12 2015 02:56 rsoultin wrote: ah, that was the post i was referring to! lol >< you're saying he gave reads in the other game, or...? i honestly can't remember much beyond the cop claim. maybe i should look @.@ disregard answered my own question | ||
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On August 12 2015 02:58 deconduo wrote: I noticed a couple of people finding fault with this read. I agree that RS's opening posts are enthusiastic, and though I don't know if the rest is true ("Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum"), no one has contradicted this yet, including RS, that I have seen. I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Yes this is a rant, and is mostly just filler  However this I really don't like. I understand the whole WIFOM thing, but really we want to limit this sort of information as much as possible. I don't see how it benefits us, whether its a lie or not. :/ you said pretty much nothing with this post, condor eh, ftr truffle is right about my not enjoying scum so much? but i can fake most things lol >< especially anger | ||
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why it mattes is clear why it's alignment indicative...is not | ||
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On August 12 2015 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote: Decon you really think the most alignment indicative thing in the thread is me jokin gabout my hurricane name? LMAO LMAOOOOOO LMAO -squints at- | ||
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On August 12 2015 03:46 VisceraEyes wrote: I thought it was funny. A lot. Sup? Like we all have names and EVEN IF I'm telling the truth, what benefit is that for mafia? What benefit is it for town? Me joking about my name is hilariously not alignment indicative and Decon was very specific in clarifying that "the only thing that REALLY bothers me is VE joking about his name"....like for real dude? you're very all capsy in odd places, seems forced | ||
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On August 12 2015 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: as a sidenote if you guys would be kind enough to also put your votes here when you do vote it would be nice. he's definitely topping my list, taskmaster lol >< | ||
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chez lol >< is chopping wood a euphemism for something? like rolling scum and not wanting to play? lol >< i dunnae, rayn, i think ruxx is probably town, actually. that reads post just now, for just one example...it's weird he's not more bubbly but i'm inclined to believe that he's more likely to be demoralized from desert than suddenly capable of being this fluid as scum heh | ||
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not a fan of the condor >< lol and really that's about all i got from the arguing @.@ | ||
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hopeless, condor, prp unlynchables damdy rayn vivax and now i'm gonna sleep off this headache | ||
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On August 12 2015 14:30 Trfel wrote: How are you so certain on Damdred? + Show Spoiler + For the record, at this point in the thread I don't have a good read on Damdred at all. lol i find it amusing that you think that because you don't have a good read on him, one of the best players on the site at reading the damdy (damdy!whisperer) shouldn't xP he just sounds like a damdy and not a robot hm, i dunnae how to read the chez and i'm not gonna pretend i do, but ego-centrism is generally a town trait and he's shown it to the max? (i'm also not sure if there's a way on this site to log players' views, but if he was really doing that, that's actually interesting lol ><) >> @ prp showing "proof" of splitting wood why you so lost, boyo? palmar, what you think of the condor? (i'm not sure if he's an old player or what lol prob should look that up) but i kinda wonder why he's already hyper-focused on the mechanics. tbf the last "oldie" i thought was scum was also hyper-focused (kinda) on the mechanics so what i'm really asking whether or not you think that could just be an oldie thing, or if it's really the smokescreen it looks like also, why you no like the damdy? :/ | ||
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answer so unsatisfying (deconduo is obviously who i keep calling the condor lol >< heaven forbid i make myself easily understood. it would give tl mafia players a coronary! \o/) | ||
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okies, here's my beef rayn, artie, palm, prp even maybe? y'all have been around long enough i think obv he's got nothing and mechanics are easy to hide behind, but more interesting to me is i'm not sure why town would already be thinking about how mafia could get information out of storm votes/narrow down storm names to assassinate how natural is that, really? | ||
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On August 12 2015 20:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar what posts are your reads on those three people based on? lol the palmar has no idea good mooooorning rayn. talk to me about the condor -beats with a wet noodle- | ||
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![[image loading]](https://pigeonchess.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/crickets.gif?w=869) well, whenever y'all feel like not ignoring me, let me know zzzz | ||
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On August 12 2015 22:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not gonna go read deconduo's past games because the game was really really different back then. Like i think the thread at this point of the game would be like my & your filters combined in length. I kinda get that it will (would) be hard to adapt to this new "more spammy" style people play, but i agree with the fact if he doesn't do anything and only sits on his mechanics read on VE who i think is really likely to be town we can murder him. ye...i don't mind mechanics so much as only mechanics i'm just a little more hesitant to pull the trigger on it cause igrok was somewhat similar? real intent on sticking to his LaL (lurkers or liars depending on which post it was xP) policy in desert, so i dunnae if it's just this thing old players do or what? | ||
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On August 12 2015 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: ugh what the fuck.... I realyl want to lynch between ruxxar, hopeless, Palmar and deconduo, in that order. Trfel goes back to townpile and so does rsoultin. Chezinu is pure null and i am pretty sure i get his alignment right at last on N1. :/ i still say ruxxy's posts don't look stiff/constructed like his scum game usually looks. there's a different flavor to his posting here, admittedly, and he definitely knows how i read him given all the noise made last game, but knowing how to change and being capable of that significant a change in so short a time are very different things? agreed on hopeless and condor palmar's a complete null for me though i actually like chez a little better and give him a smidge of an inkling of a townlean maybe on the disclaimer that i have no clue how to read him lol >< i just find his posts entertaining what are your thoughts on prp? he has a non-existent scum game heh >< i had a minor doubt though and i wonder if you saw the same thing since he didn't make your list? | ||
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On August 12 2015 23:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: basically yes. most people were quite bad in reading motivation back then and even the good one's weren'ty really "challenged" because there was so much bad.  .... and people were generally not posting much so it was hard.lol ick >< they're all gonna have trouble with me then and this newfangled subjective reads thing we do ^^ | ||
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On August 12 2015 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: i totally forgot purplehaze is in the game. There is something he'll probably do if he is mafia. I don't think he has done anything alignment indicative yet. I am amused how can people trust a tone read over actual post-based evidence that a guy is clearly just fucking pulling shit out of his ass. I am sad. i know what you're keying in on, rayn you're saying how can the guy have different reactions to the same post, whether he's forgotten it or not? and as i said, the whole flavor of his posting is somewhat different this game so i'm not as sure on it here as i was in desert, but i still wouldn't lynch him today. lol i call it tone but it's actually behavior/personality-based and yes i do tend to put more value on a read that considers overarching play over one or two consistencies especially when being inconsistent isn't outside the norm for ruxxy :/ | ||
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or prp lol >< | ||
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On August 12 2015 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: My case i posted is in fact 50% bullshit just because i just realized i misread one of his posts where he says "a post about artanis" into "artanis' post". So what he is doing is he is agreeing that i am right when he SHOULD know i am pushing something he hasn't even actually said or done. Like rsoultin, if someone now made a case on you based on "you called rayn town then now you suddenly call him mafia for no reason" would your response be: 1) "i have not called rayn mafia" or, 2) "yeah i did woopiedoo" ???? o.0 this happened? where? that's not at all what i remember from y'all's argument, though i guess i was kinda reading the thread with a headache yesterday and wishing you all would just choke on bile lol >< | ||
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On August 12 2015 23:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Deconduo is weird. His posts haven't had any focus. Actually he might be my preferred lynch candidate for today but something really silly is making me hedge, which is this: The arrogance in that even when he hasn't really done much leads me to believe he actually believes he's contributing, so meh. Prp is still null to me. yes. heh. kinda weak, artie if you two just yes and no back and forth you'll be beaten with more than just a wet noodle | ||
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On August 12 2015 23:28 prplhz wrote: maybe you're scum for not immediately getting that "a post about artanis" into "artanis' post"? reads would be amazing. much as i adore assholes, with your ton of nothing this game, you're wearing my patience | ||
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On August 12 2015 23:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: My argument was literally this: I bolded and underlined the parts that did not actually happen. That's what my argument has always been, yet ruxxar's answer was: he has never in fact "missed order of things". He has only made two conclusions on a same post. Like if you are town why the fuck would you not correct this to people? why? whywhywhy? nh unless he's basically just ignoring you and not really reading your posts anymore, i have no answer for that i assumed you were pushing him for what he actually did lol >< bad me | ||
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okay, well, i'll do what i practically never do d1 and actually read his filter when i get back from my optometry appt ciao | ||
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On August 13 2015 00:22 ruXxar wrote: Welcome to my town game. I would've thought you'd have a better read on me after 3 games. When I'm scum I spend up to 30 minutes composing a simple post, making sure I don't blotch what I'm about to say, proof reading, polishing, re evaluating my word usage. Rsoul can attest to this. I hate that way of playing. I have to be mr el logico, all the time. Fuck that's boring. I enjoy being able to say whatever I want and don't case for the consequences. I'm not afraid to get lynched by you rayn. I don't have any scum mates to let down when I die. And even if you manage to do it, It'll haunt you even more knowing you're wrong yet again. You should listen to the people that know me better. They're making your job real easy. ye this is true -_- i had to wait an obscenely long time for him to respond and continue with buss rsoul part # nth degree in gaiden lol >< and by the time he got around to posting it...it was basically the same old song note to self: never double-buss with ruxxy again <3 gotta say, ruxxy...it's rather unbelievable that you know so little about what you yourself have said that you didn't notice the discrepancy sooner. what gives? | ||
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On August 13 2015 01:34 ruXxar wrote: It irked me that Artanis was taking such a hard defense on me when he barely knows my meta at all. It felt kind if unnatural, but I don't know Artemis meta either so maybe that's how he plays. Trying to evaluate it objectively I think it's a subra mafia play. The fact that he's also trying to push VE is going to make him look doubly ass if VE flips town. That puts attains in a really bad spot and would be a great risk to undertake as scum. not really sure how much sense this makes? | ||
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the push on vivax looks fine to me | ||
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On August 13 2015 02:01 Trfel wrote: Please do provide examples. I'm not scumreading you, but I'm suspicious of you (pending your explanation of your ruXxar read). I also didn't really like your VisceraEyes push, and these are the two most noteworthy things you've done this game (as of this point in the thread). truffle wuffle...from what i can make out of ruxxar's post on artie, he came to the exact opposite conclusion you did. watcha think about that? | ||
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you were in gaiden, and it sounds like you just read it again...this really look like his scum game to you? | ||
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then what was the votecount about? | ||
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i'd say hope is more than a coinflip, though. he was pretty eh as cop this last game, too, but he had reads right out the gate. not so here palmar i refuse to read when he's doing nothing -_- i have enough trouble when he's actually posting prp also is more of a scumlean for me cause doing nothing for him is actually alignment indicative not sure what damdy's up to but i'm sticking to my earlier read on him lol >< wouldn't be the first time he afkd | ||
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On August 13 2015 02:26 Vivax wrote: I considered that already, and I also considered that in Gaiden he was in an entirely different situation, remaining unsuspected until the end of the game. This game I have been trying to force him to go guns blazing with whatever he says, he can't just timidly add little bits like he did at the start of gaiden. How am I supposed to townread him if most of what he says doesn't make sense to a point where he seems like he wouldn't believe it himself, and on top of it me and rayn have to pull the bits of information out of him he doesn't seem to want to share? That was especially evident at the beginning of our conversation. except that he was quite fluid before you two started hounding him? | ||
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On August 13 2015 02:30 Trfel wrote: By itself, that doesn't feel important. It's natural for ruXxar, regardless of alignment, to praise Artanis's read and townread him for it. Why do you ask? you seem entirely unconcerned that he has a different read to yours? | ||
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On August 13 2015 02:34 rsoultin wrote: essentially, truffle, even if you think that has no bearing on his alignment (and that would make sense, it being ruxxy lol ><) shouldn't you be trying to convince him of your point of view? or are you not interested in lynching artanis today? | ||
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i'm still at hopeless/condor/prp @artie so...ye any of those you want to lynch, truffle? i don't think i've ever seen artanis' scum game so i've no clue if he's just being super!scum here, but frankly his reads line up with mine enough that i've no interest in lynching him today | ||
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On August 13 2015 02:39 Vivax wrote: Hopeless, prplhz, Chez and Deconduo are the guys I often end up scumreading when mafia isn't among them and simply does stuff. They are extremely lurky and give very little information as both alignments. Chez you can read to some extent cause as town he will try to solve the game in one way or another, mixed in with some of his notorious trolling, as opposed to the pure trolling and chaos from mafia chez. prplhz and hopeless deserve their own category. If they're town they're good lynch bait. As mafia they have the advantage of that reputation and are allowed to stay under the radar without raising much suspicion. RASPUTINA. You have been pushing these two lynch baits. Hopeless earlier and now prplhz. Do you want the day to be a policy lynch day? Deconduo seems more readable this game, I actually look forward to him giving us a more complete view of the accusations on ruxxar, and I would like an explanation from him regarding VE's overraction to his soft claim being called out as a reason for him being mafia. neither are policy lynches. just cause you can't read a player doesn't mean the rest of us can't lol >< i'm actually pretty good at reading prp (see down under 2 and ignore the idiocy of the last-minute vote change to get a read on palmar >>) and i already said why this doesn't look like hope's town game besides which, i think i was one of the first ones trying to get people to comment on condor/lynch him, if not the first? | ||
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whenever y'all get around to settling on a lynch ftr, if y'all lynch ruxxy i'm not gonna be very happy -_- | ||
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i still don't get this umbrella thing :/ | ||
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but mostly i don't want to lynch ruxx lol >< | ||
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On August 13 2015 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: if ruxxar turns out to be mafia in this game i have a lot to talk about with certain ppl. if ruxxar turns out to be town in this game i will just vig him whenever i have a chance because he is too bad. lol not a winning strat just get better at reading him xP | ||
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On August 13 2015 04:42 prplhz wrote: does he make reads as scum? like hopeless isn't really playing so i'm trying to figure out if that's because he is scum or because of something non alignment indicative not sure the game i just came out of with him he was town and making reads (while barely playing) though | ||
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On August 13 2015 04:49 prplhz wrote: can we randomly lynch someone who isn't hopeless? there are other people in this game you or condor ^^ | ||
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On August 13 2015 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am sorry i am trying to be nice to everyone and shit but it is just so hard when people do this shit..... brrrrr....... well if we don't vig gb every game, or sl every game, or oneg every game...get the point? -beats with a wet noodle- | ||
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On August 13 2015 04:51 prplhz wrote: what about VE i don't remember him being so under the radar? do you have an actual scumread or are you just throwing names out? | ||
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On August 13 2015 04:53 prplhz wrote: isn't VE usually the guy who talks a lot and asks stuff of everybody and this game he's had weird reads that no one else have had. the trfel thing fell apart and now he's just doing the deconduo thing even though people aren't really into that either and he seems perfectly content. i liked his read on truffle? i don't want to lynch truffle, but that read on truffle by ve is the only reason i don't want to kill him lol >< i don't recall a particularly active ve? what game are you even referring to here? | ||
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On August 13 2015 04:53 deconduo wrote: Some top quality posts by VE: lurker alert | ||
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which games are you referring to damdy? | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: wh yare you this nonsensical Damdred? Why? ughhhhhhhh.... he's being reasonable. cool your jets -flicks- | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar 100% town. -_- this is unreasonable how the hell do you come up with this read? | ||
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god you don't even realize when you're doing the associative thing, do you? | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: because damdred is being fucking weird and idk... robotic. instead of finding mafia. no that reaction wasn't robotic at all o.0 | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:03 Damdred wrote: I've been really polite and haven't called anyone bad or gotten upset to this point, so please show me the same respect. I have a really small lynch list like condor, ve maybe prp. Hopeless is a good big target but a lynch id say do one of the others. how is this robotic? | ||
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@rayn if you realize it then stop being bad ^^ | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: you and your tone reads rsoultin..... they're awesome, i know lol ^^ complain all you want, but they're usually right, boyo | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:10 ruXxar wrote: Because you're the one with all the answers, who determines what is the one and only absolute correct way to play mafia. All hail rayn our overlord. hey productive this is not productive | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:11 prplhz wrote: this isn't really getting anywhere my vote's on chez and i'm leaving 4srs? >< | ||
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just answer him, rayn ruxx, this isn't helpful. stop it bueno, ye, damdy's right, he had reads in ff at least so that's not a good metric | ||
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i think i prefer prp just cause i know what his games look like, and condor's just objectively scummy to me, but really i'd be happy with either | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:17 Damdred wrote: I was in the shower and remembered those games, so maybe not such a good lynch. The rest is poe and idk if I want to lynch palmar I don't think so i think if we lynch palmar we make a day of it...he can do this as either alignment, and it should be easier to tell which if he's got a fire lit under his ass. not today's lynch for sure | ||
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-beats with wet noodle- i just said why not hopeless. if you think the lurkers come out of the woodwork because hopeless is on the block, why not them? | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:23 prplhz wrote: because i think the most scummy thing he's done is being inactive but it seems like he doesn't really play scum like this, it seems like he's just genuinely not here. ... lol prp >< not here but kinda here, huh? | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin i am going to tell you this: if i manage to lynch Hopeless as i am planning to and you are not supporting it, the last couple of posts will get you 100% lynched on D2 because i am going to fucking push it as you are stupid. I do not care if you/me are right or not. Yo uare just being stupid and ignorant because you - instead of commenting on what i have said - just bring up "how about's". can you see why this is terrible? yes. i see that instead of wanting to lynch him for his play you want to lynch him by association which, btw, you have such a great track record with any more threats you want to throw my way, sweetcheeks? | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: so, why is hopeless town? the point is this no reads thing isn't normal for him for either alignment -_- | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Finally done with poker. I'll lynch Hopeless I guess. ##Vote Hopeless1der lol okay artie >< did everyone take a dumb pill or something? | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: ruxxar if this is your way of playing mafia and you are town here i dunno what to tell you. I have already gone against what i think and given other people room to work and not just mindlessly tunnel you. Instead of taking this as a breathing break and scumhunt, you decide to fuck me over again and again for no fucking reason. Please, if you are town, FUCKING FIGURE out why what you are doing is insanely stupid. I want to lynch Hopeless because meta says he is mafia. His posting says nothing -> mafia. All the lurkers suddenly get active when i call Hopeless mafia (see prplhz and deconduo - without no real arguments at all). Kill with fire. fu ruxxar. the italicized is wrong because of what damdy pointed out, which you apparently aren't even following up on because? the bolded is the association am i wrong? what "meta" evidence are you referring to? | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: fuck fuck fuck i kinda wanna sheep Palmar on Damdred. fuck fuck fuck you're awful ^^ get it through your thick skull that people disagreeing with you doesn't make them mafia -_- | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:32 ruXxar wrote: I think either hopeless is scum and scum people are trying to redirect his lynch. Or he's town and mafia are trying to jump ship / disassociate from the push. It's only town pushing hopeless atm. would be more helpful if you actually said who you thought was scum here ruxx -_- | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have quoted the meat i have pointed out to you TWICE. twice rsoultin.... TWICE........dsaönädfsblj-as read. th. thread. i have read it as far as i'm aware it's only based on last game and none of his scum games. i saw it, too. damdy's right about his scum games, though, so unless i'm missing something YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO READ | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:36 Damdred wrote: Lynch me art do me the favor of getting out of getting out of this game. town damdy town damdy town damdy emo damdy is town damdy | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: wrong. go away. i am not really in a mood of this. then just show me how i'm wrong? obviously i don't understand if you have more than what i've said | ||
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with him they're defending town and with hopeless they're defending scum xD | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:41 ruXxar wrote: Most likely are prpl and hopeless. Scum by association is a very weak read, so I won't lynch anyone just for that before a flip. eh, i'd go into why it's dumb to bring it up in the first place if you thought it was a weak read that didn't mean anything, but frankly i don't think it makes you scum, so whatever -_- | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: the post you are using as evidence. see bold. if you read my post about him this is really an assholish thing to say in the first place for you. no respect. bold o.0 the bolded is my point? are you trying to tell me that he makes no reads in his scum games when he demonstrably does? @.@ check fantasy football for yourself. that's what made me remove my vote | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Artanis. If i am alive on D2 i am going to make a big case on why rsoultin is mafia and i am going to be right. I can't do it on D1 though. yeah sure lol >< keep up the streak go chill or actually talk to me, cause clearly you're not englishing properly again | ||
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On August 13 2015 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: go away. please jsut go away and do something else for like an hour okay? you | ||
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meh whatever -_- i'm here all night. if there's something i'm actually not understanding maybe you'll get around to explaining it to me sometime before EoD gonna go do laundry | ||
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the games damdy was referring to, rayn: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=Hopeless1der http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/378069-acme-mini-mafia-inc?user=Hopeless1der and i'll readily admit that i didn't read the second lol >< i dunnae, this could be prp's town game actually, sad as that is heh i'd prefer a condor lynch but will lynch hopeless as a yolo? also@ruxx good to know you're not reading, dude -_- | ||
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On August 13 2015 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: i have legitmately no idea what you are trying to say here man. he says you're being hypocritical by hyper focusing on a townread for focusing on a townread -_- | ||
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On August 13 2015 06:45 VisceraEyes wrote: OH TINA WHY DO YOU TEMPT ME EVIL TEMPTRESS?!?!?!?!? lol because condor's the better lynch? unless rayn has something i'm just not seeing :/ | ||
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^ and that's the best you'll get, chez xP | ||
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why do you tell me not to do things? lol | ||
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On August 13 2015 06:53 Palmar wrote: I still think damdy is mafia. i still think you're wrong ^^ | ||
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i'm generally righterer ^^ artie, i think you were the one saying that you thought decon was town, though? not that i mind people sheeping me <3 | ||
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On August 13 2015 07:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I did as you can see in the table, but it was for a weak reason and I feel the more global view such as ver has described in one of his analysis posts is fairly incriminating on him, as well as going through his filter again due to rereading for the schematic I drew I felt he was pretty scummy in general. hm, okay, i can see that. the reason was definitely weak | ||
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On August 13 2015 07:27 prplhz wrote: it's just as weird that no scum called him town for towncredit. hmm. maybe we should lynch him based on stuff he did rather than based on general thread sentiment? did he do anything scummy? he didn't do much and this setup focus and afkness just seems like how people who used to play a long time ago but had a long break and now they just came back for their first game in a while usually play like. yea that's probably weird coming from someone who sheeps people all the time. might even sheep you. eh, i could see this, but i think even people who haven't played in a long time will have some sort of opinion about something rather than just pinging a player for suboptimal play? besides which, if he's smart enough to make one connection i fail to see why he didn't make the other | ||
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that was shitty play >< and no, i'm way more confident on damdy than i ever was on you, prp, plus i don't think palmar is known for being able to read damdy like he's known for being able to read you anyway? it's mostly just his reaction to things. like i could go into him having the correct mindset approaching his reads or whatever but the reason i'm sure is the emo lol >< damdy's shit at faking emotion as scum | ||
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On August 13 2015 09:27 Damdred wrote: Cause ve isn't trying at all I guess. Do you tr him trfel? bad reason says no lynch ^^ | ||
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On August 13 2015 09:50 Damdred wrote: Trfel who are all your scum reads? well i know he said that he didn't want a "lurker" lynch today, but this is still a good question why is palmar town, damdy? i don't have a read on him one way or the other currently | ||
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On August 13 2015 09:54 Damdred wrote: He's pushing my lynch, sscum Palmer thinks I'm good as town. Wouldn't push me in a simplistic reasoning -squints at- if scum palmar thinks you're good as town...why wouldn't he push you? i'm not sure i get this reasoning | ||
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On August 13 2015 10:03 Damdred wrote: Do you think I'm an easy or a hard target to push RS? well, given the way the day has gone...rather easy lol >< but that's ego-bruising, isn't it? | ||
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On August 13 2015 10:35 Damdred wrote: but really before this part of the day I was mostly town read but palmar scum read me out the gate? that's true. to start the push...you have a point | ||
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On August 13 2015 10:36 Trfel wrote: I feel like rsoultin.... I posted that to communicate a few different ideas. If you think about it critically, you can figure them out. >> dangerous what do you mean you feel like me lol >< | ||
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On August 13 2015 10:39 Trfel wrote: Refusing to give a straight forward answer to a simple question XD @.@ i only do that when the answer is as clear as the nose on your face, though | ||
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that may just be a function of the deadline -_- i'm not really a fan of one too late for the euros to participate in, but i wasn't paying close enough attention during sign-ups lol >< | ||
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On August 13 2015 10:52 Damdred wrote: No clue pro maybe, trfel piling on with most of his null scum reads instead his town reads. and also look at the vote count RS, I hope it is scum but scum team has to have 0 prescrnse if he is nh :/ he was scumreading condor earlier but i see what you mean. the vote's pretty close | ||
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On August 13 2015 10:54 Trfel wrote: Hard claiming mafia Come and lynch me!!! -flicks- why don't you just answer the question instead of being a troll | ||
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On August 13 2015 10:56 Trfel wrote: Which question? damdred's why voting condor over hopeless? the votecount you posted doesn't really clear that up any @.@ | ||
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On August 13 2015 07:38 prplhz wrote: maybe! but really, this is really just how i think these people play. they come in and don't exactly know the current meta (for lack of better expression) so they do something (mostly setup speculation or deference to kenpachi/chezinu/whatever rules) and then they sort of disappear. sometimes they just disappear. i don't really think it points at scum. at the same time i don't see why scum would push decon unless they have to and that's sort of it. artanis keeps saying that a strong scum team would push decon, but why would a strong scum team not but, say, palmar? or you? like think i see where artanis is coming from but i don't really buy it. what's this damdred town read you have anyway? are you going to lynch him anyway just to get a read on palmar? On August 13 2015 07:57 prplhz wrote: yea maybe it's a bad idea? On August 13 2015 08:11 prplhz wrote: dunno maybe saying i was defending deconduo is wrong. it was more like i disagreed with your case (that happened to be on him). On August 13 2015 08:26 prplhz wrote: okay lets go for decon then ##Vote deconduo On August 13 2015 08:44 prplhz wrote: i'm rolling with this decon thing mainly because rso and artanis look townie enough. personally i think it's a shot in the dark but it seems like it's the best we can do today. oh, heh -_- this did come well before that whole thing. i was going to say that it looked like his vote changed because of my read on you, but then i ctrl+f'd your name just to be sure On August 13 2015 07:03 prplhz wrote: dunno what that means but this is the post i'm sort of townreading damdred for looking at the post in question i'm not really sure why that merits a townread anyway @.@ pretty confusing | ||
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On August 13 2015 11:28 Damdred wrote: I don't have hopeless as town just if there's a vig shoot him tonight. We lynch prp tommorow then go from there ye, hopeless best vig shot for sure | ||
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On August 13 2015 08:41 marvellosity wrote: Vote Count Trfel (1): Chezinu, Hopeless1der (2): ruXxar (0): VisceraEyes (1): deconduo (4): Damdred (2): Palmar, Chezinu (0): Not Voting (3): Trfel, Damdred, Hopeless1der Currently deconduo is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends on August 12 02:00 GMT (+00:00) in that was the votecount right after his switch? but honestly, looking at that i'm not sure -_- it would help if i knew why he was scumreading you to start with | ||
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On August 13 2015 11:41 Damdred wrote: Like chain of events, we are pushing off hopeless a bit for a different lynch and I leave thread. Thread sentiment starts to form I might be scum so so opposition to the idea. I believe 3 or 4 willing to go. Another target is introduced and everyone flocks to it during this time 0 opposition. prp flips over nothing my wagon disperses rayn, palmar move to hopeless everyone else consolidated on condor. I think a couple possibilities here 1) I'm scum and scum used there thread prwscrnse to move the wagon off me. This just isn't true but its something we have to talk through 2) Hopeless is the scum counter wagon and the scum moved to consolidate on condor because was the easiest wagon to hide in. Prp would be the second partner in this case. Me personally I really hope we have a vig to shoot hopeless. But yeah the third scun is a bit harder to find and I believe the hopeless wagon is completely town. read the op lol >< i don't know how wise it is to openly talk about it but... yes best vig shot is hopeless i really want prp to explain this scumread he had on you and honestly i didn't have a problem with truffle's explanation, but if hopeless is scum it definitely looks bad -_- i think i'm gonna hit this again after i've slept some, though @.@ | ||
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On August 13 2015 11:44 Damdred wrote: But art is a possibility here to I have to read him a bit but I seem to remember he didn't want to lynch condor and then came back and pushed lynching him but could of hopped on my wagon to so that's a bit hard to determine. ye he did push the condor wagon hard. i didn't want to lynch a null read over a scumread, but if i remember correctly i was all on my lonesome >< would be kinda obvious, though, i think? | ||
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rayn says "hope is scum because he has no reads. this is meta" i say "wait, did he actually have reads in down under? i don't remember -goes to check- okay yeah, hopeless is scum" damdy says "wait a second, hopeless had reads when he was scum? -cites games-" i go "well blah -_- that's nai then -unvotes-" how is this so difficult to understand? and what i mean by saying ruxx wasn't reading is i kept pushing for the hopeless lynch until damdy brought that information? so this "changing as soon as thread sentiment shifted" thing is bogus, like most of his statements are lol >< first off, hopeless hasn't flipped yet second off, if he is scum, you're telling me i bussed him exactly until he was the lynch, opposed the ruxx and damdy lynches who are both probably...almost definitely...town btw...and then parked my vote on condor with very little chance of actually saving hopeless -_- you guys just keep assuming i have a brain the size of a peanut i swear @.@ | ||
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On August 13 2015 22:25 prplhz wrote: eh why did you want to lynch me yesterday rso? or like why did you suggest me and decon and not someone else instead? you don't play much as scum. the more you posted the less sure i became on that read lol >< and as for condor, i just thought the way he stayed glued to the mechanics discussion was scummy? especially since his only push was just someone not playing the game the way he thought they should be @.@ | ||
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On August 13 2015 22:38 Vivax wrote: Alone the fact that your heuristic turned out to be whether he has reads or not based on what Damdred said makes your decision look pretty bad tbh. So who are you scumreading now rso? What about VE being tempted by that something you wrote ye well, i don't know how to read hopeless as either alignment. i thought rayn had a way; he didn't. at least not in any way that he could explain. it was as simple as scumread over null read, and as i said when i changed votes, i didn't mind a hopeless lynch? i just preferred condor or prp...later just condor it's not exactly the rocket science y'all are making it out to be lol >< and chez is almost definitely scum regardless of hopeless' alignment, btw he spends all day pushing truffle, having no other reads that i can discern, and then voting with truffle on condor as for ve, why should it surprise me that he wants to vote condor with me when he wanted to vote condor before? why should it surprise anyone? it doesn't make him town, but it certainly doesn't make him scum, either @.@ | ||
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On August 13 2015 22:43 prplhz wrote: so we good now or you still wanna lynch me? what's your read on palmar? you're probably town given your posting (not your behavior lol ><) and i have no clue how anyone has a read on palmar. his read on damdy is awful @.@ for such a "great" tonereader, when damdy is one of the easiest players on the site to toneread (not to read, mind you) i find it mind-boggling he thinks damdy is scum if hopeless is scum...it's more likely he's town probably but i have to review the votes and see if he could still be scum with chez? probably not | ||
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On August 13 2015 22:53 Vivax wrote: I figured now that hopeless posted reads, you'd actually have a reason to scumread him? I don't see what other argument has been brought up for him being mafia that could have convinced you to vote for him early in the day other than him not having reads. Then you see that he can have reads as mafia and put him down the priority list. Now that he actually posted reads, you're back to null or what? It just doesn't make sense to me how you don't even try to consider him for scum any more after what you said yesterday. let me make this simple for you vivax hopeless always looks scummy to me. yes he had reads later. yes damdy demonstrated that not having reads at the beginning is nai therefore he was a null read what don't you get? | ||
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On August 13 2015 22:55 prplhz wrote: just because i post more than you think i would as scum? you should go check up on me in i can't believe it's still not themed mafia http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486819-i-still-cant-believe-its-not-themed-mafia?user=prplhz where i actually tried to post as scum (and actually managed to win a game for once) i don't care at all for your chez scum read btw seriously chez does weird shit all the time and sometimes he plays and sometimes he don't and you haven't a clue how to read him and if you base all your reads around a scum read on him that's not very good what's your read on palmar? seems like you haven't a clue how anybody has a read on him while saying that his sole contribution so far is mind boggling (in a bad way). rayn seems to have a rather strong read on him, what you make of that? rayn either can read palmar better than me (not surprising, honestly) or he's just wrong again? and i don't care if you care for my chez read or not. bite me. town doesn't play that way btw it's not about how much you post, prp | ||
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On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote: then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me? you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves. this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum. so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp | ||
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On August 13 2015 23:06 Vivax wrote: Yeah rso has a preference for low hanging fruit this game. Except now she doesn't try to pick hopeless based on something Damdred said. Checking hopeless games properly without using the given lense would have revealed to her that hopeless just plays differently across games, and it seems too gullible/unbelievable to me she would use such a simple heuristic to make her decision. Can't get rid of the feeling she put hopeless into her scumreads for convenience, and removed him from them for convenience. okay so all of you think chez is town? why? ^^ | ||
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On August 13 2015 23:08 Vivax wrote: I tunneled Ruxxar most of the day and voted with him, so how is that an argument? that wasn't your only read, now was it, dumbass? | ||
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On August 13 2015 23:11 prplhz wrote: have you never played with chez before or something just once in ippo, i think so basically you're saying there's no possible way to read chez, ever? the same way you people told me there's no way to read slam? lol >< | ||
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what, is he clinically retarded? plays with a magic 8 ball? | ||
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On August 13 2015 23:16 prplhz wrote: i'm saying it's very difficult to read chez and him changing his opinion doesn't justify a clear scum read. it doesn't justify anything. + Show Spoiler + can you read slam? -_- not perfectly, but better than most, prp | ||
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On August 13 2015 23:18 Vivax wrote: Okay, and what about VE? Only read Trfel, votes with him based on what you said. Yet you feel more comfortable going after Chez, I can figure out why you're blind on the Viscera eye. i'll review VE but i'm pretty sure you're already wrong because i'm pretty sure he was scumreading condor so maybe you should review your facts, ye? | ||
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On August 12 2015 13:10 VisceraEyes wrote: Yo I changed my mind. ##Unvote ##Vote: deconduo His read on me was way out of left field, based on a throwaway comment in my opening post. It would have been fine if left at that, but he actually goes on to try and defend his laughable reasoning. He's mafia. yeah review your facts, viva -_- | ||
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On August 13 2015 23:24 Vivax wrote: I'm not reviewing anything, I think VE is mafia and you are mafia, you can split hairs all you want but making your argument used on somebody like Chez so narrow and then deflecting the accusation that other people have been doing the same with some little deviations from what Chez did, who has the benefit of being chez, is ridiculous. So far all you've been pushing are literal lynch baits. VE's switch to hopeless didn't even make sense at all considering the post you quoted. okay, viva you're so correct, viva scum is always the most prominent (what ve what?) players, viva i never play by poe at all, viva you're just the best player in existence, viva no need to ever check yourself or actually make sure what you think is really correct, viva -hands viva the king of town crown- someone like chez? if you can show me chez pulling this shit as town then i'll let it go. i'm sorry that i don't buy he's completely worthless as a player ^^ | ||
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On August 14 2015 02:19 Damdred wrote: Don't be obtuse rux its quite possible two people are pushing two mafia and mafia have to de IDE which one is better to keep for a night it happens all the time. So a bus is possible in that situation And I never called hopeless town during the day just that he was a better big shot than he was a lynch so we could get other information. But given the last few minutes of information a hopeless lynch would of been fine but myself and RS couldn't seit h or we would of no lynched I believe. this i saw what he was talking about, but we weren't enough to lynch hopeless and frankly i wasn't sold on that lynch anyway? also @ rayn if that wasn't what you were saying you should have corrected me ages ago. maybe the twenty fucking something times i asked you to clarify? but noooo you'd rather scream and get mad at me and tell me to fuck off -_- | ||
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On August 12 2015 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Look man if you are town you need to try to get your reads out no matter how good/bad they are, because that's what you do as town. If people (like i do) scumread you for it then they do, who cares. If you are scum please feel free to continue acting like you don't give any fucks and just hide behind smartass questions which is what you do as mafia. I have actually never tried to meta you (because i usually don't remember what you have posted the game before when the next game begins) until now, 15mins ago. maybe i misinterpreted what you were saying. i will readily admit that but you never corrected me and when i tried to get you to you just call me scum for being obtuse? well, fuck you, rayn -_- i'm tired of you constantly scumreading me for being "stupid" or whatever when you're the one who can't communicate, or just sit here and scream something over and over without reading what others are saying /rant | ||
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On August 14 2015 03:41 ruXxar wrote: Why does damdred keep referring to you as if you're a couple? Same thing when I said earlier than town was scum was deflecting off hopeless and he immediately drew the conclusion that I was scum reading the both of you. -_- i dunnae, ruxx we're both town, though so...i don't really care -_- | ||
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On August 14 2015 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: I never really read Damdred's post because i was in the middle of something else at the time and i focus on one thing at the time. Then i fell asleep later which is also why this lynch happened. It does not pardon you from what you did rsoultin. You blindly trusted Damdred over me without even reading the game he quoted (hint: in that scumgame of Hopeless he doesn't really lay out a single thought process regarding his reads so i don't even know what the fuck is Damdred reading). okay...see i get what you're saying now and it actually makes more sense than what you were saying before? that the reads had no reasoning behind them. that's not what you were saying before, though lol >< and i did read the first one he mentioned, not the second one was enough to prove that what i thought you were saying wasn't true @.@ i'm really going to laugh so hard if hopeless is town this game, btw, given all the time we've wasted here ^^ | ||
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meh i wrote that before i saw your response i apologize -_- it's just been happening a lot lately you really pissed me off yesterday and it's a recurring theme | ||
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On August 14 2015 03:43 ruXxar wrote: You don't find it strange at all that he has you as an automatic include in a lot if his posts? um...what? that he mentions me a lot? no? i'm one of the only players on the whole damn site who can reliably read him and we work together a lot in-game cause our styles are compatible but we don't always see the same things why should it bug me? i don't know what you're even getting at @.@ the only person's alignment in this game i'm more certain of than my own is damdred's, so i'm not very interested in wherever you're trying to push this until you actually start making some sense | ||
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On August 14 2015 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: How can you even say this? Like you read the towngame from Hopeless and you didn't think he was giving out reads in that game but now your conclusion is "yeah i agree with you rayn" when i am saying "Hopeless tries to get his point across as town" which literally means he is giving out reads as town. LIKE WTF?? what? -_- of course it makes no sense cause that's like the opposite of what i said -_- | ||
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On August 14 2015 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you do not think Hopeless is mafia? i don't know rayn ^^ i think he's scum when he's town so sure. why not? regardless he's the best vig shot cause i can't fucking tell and it makes the vote make more sense | ||
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On August 14 2015 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin, what did you find out in the game you read from Hopeless? which one? i saw that he started out making reads in the down under game where he just started out joking around here and not really doing that, thought that was what you meant, and saw that he started out with reads as scum in final fantasy then you flipped your lid because i apparently misunderstood you -_- and wouldn't elaborate. just told me to fuck off so it's nice that you've elaborated now but it's a bit late, isn't it? | ||
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On August 14 2015 04:05 Vivax wrote: I just wanted to say that I really think Damdred is mafia and you're still wrong ^^ | ||
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On August 14 2015 04:05 Vivax wrote: And that we give rso a dunce hat or a noose for not seeing it. sure if damdy flips scum this game, lynch me. hell, i even promise not to post the entire phase and vote for myself, so it's especially easy for you scrubs to pull it off ^^ | ||
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it's simple miscommunication but rather than rayn realizing there's probably something wrong with how he's delivering his message if multiple people aren't getting it, he assumed we're mafia for it -_- and i really cba'd to fight with him a third game in a row where he insists i'm being stupid and since i'm not stupid i'm scum | ||
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meh -_- fantasy football doesn't really on a cursory look but that's not really the point. i misunderstood you. can we move on? like i don't know if i even care whether hope is mafia or not cause we should be killing him tonight lol >< so i could put in the work to do a meta read on a player i don't know but it's not something i generally trust myself with anyway | ||
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ruxx asked how i read damdy that is how i fucking read damdy -_- among other things but i have never seen him get demotivated like this because people are calling him stupid when he's scum. why should he? he's bad at faking emotion and there's no reason to be upset when you're not town and people are calling you an idiot -_- | ||
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you two need to stop. damdred and i were the only ones except truffle near EoD. nothing we did would have changed anything. his vote meant literally nothing. he either votes decon, hope, or some random player and in every single case decon is still lynched i don't even know what point you guys are trying to make? if rayn had been more specific on his meta, maybe, maybe hopeless would have been worth a scumread but as we saw it he was basically a coinflip and saying he'd rather have hopeless vig shot when he's not playing is not stupid. it's fucking how you play the game -_- | ||
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what possible use is what you two are doing if he's town? tell me that. is this really giving you any information about his alignment? you can't even be bothered to look at the circumstances of his vote >< i don't even know what's wrong with the two of you right now, but i do know that this will never get what you want out of damdred if you're so fucking sure he's scum, just vote him next phase and eat crow. stop antagonizing him for no fucking reason based on faulty logic and poor information | ||
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On August 14 2015 04:58 Vivax wrote: Like, he ninjavoted, appeals to emotion, often doesn't keep pursuing what he's talking about (VE for example, but I saw another instance of that somewhere, will try to find it againon request), and generally approaches the game with a frustrated mindset in my opinion? What does that tell us about his alignment? For me it means he's utterly unmotivated to play the game, and I associate that with scum unless people can bring up a good reason. betcha i can find more than a handful of games where this happened for exactly the reason it's happening now when damdy was town ^^ wasn't in any of them so i can't name them off the top of my head, but one was the game onegu was scum in where gb was being bad as usual and tunneling damdy for days for shit reasoning deja vu? | ||
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your point? that's when i really figured out how to read him | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485325-generic-boring-mini-mafia?user=Damdred the game i'm referring to viva | ||
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On August 14 2015 05:11 Vivax wrote: Looks like an entirely different damdred than in this one if you ask me. uh huh -_- this is why you're not a tonereader...which is fine, cause i can't really imagine a playstyle that's more frustrating than mine, frankly why do you think this is like his game in mmm2 viva? | ||
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On August 14 2015 05:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: No it fucking isn't. It's like someone says "there is exactly one mafia between X and Y". When X flips mafia they start yelling "WHERE DID I FUCKING EVER SAY Y IS TOWN???". You should maybe take some logic classes. lol it is though yes literally if someone says that x's flip gives the least info then by default every single other flip in the game gives more info, but how is that even important? which means it's just semantics that you're arguing | ||
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On August 14 2015 05:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: It is important because: - Damdred was LITERALLY against lynching Hopeless because it doesn't give any informaton - He was not against lynching deconduo for the same reason - So that should give him at least some information Instead of processing this and scumhunting (which he hasn't basically done all game long - he's been more keen of calling people's cases bad with no alternatives to present) he goes all demotivated and still doesn't do anything smart. I don't care if he calls same people scum than i do. I don't care if his reads are the same that other people's are now. I care about the fact he isn't doing anything that is productive in the slightest. yeah, he plays day ones like i do...town hunting and then poe -_- i just...blah he's town, okay? like none of this matters cause he's town just like it doesn't matter when gb makes no fucking sense or ruxx sits there and talks out his ass...it's just...not important? and because he's fucking town sitting here and calling him stupid isn't going to get him to do what you want him to do i've said my piece. i'm never lynching damdy this game. and if y'all want to keep handling it this way, fine, but you're still wrong and it makes me not want to play either because i just look at three townies beating on each other and want to pretend this game doesn't exist -_- | ||
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it's that if you knew damdy from adam you'd know, you'd have to know, that if he's town this game this is the exact wrong way to go about getting him to show that he's town just do me a favor and give him room to breathe? if he still hasn't come up with anything by the next phase or two, fine, whatever, can't stop y'all anyway. but at least give him the room to work if he's town. you're just shutting him down by behaving this way, and it's partly his fault for letting it get to him, but it's partly y'all's, too, cause you've played with him enough to know that this is ineffective by now -_- it's like threatening me to do shit. i'll oppose you out of pure obstinance | ||
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On August 14 2015 05:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Okay, I'm here and actually paying attention now. What's been going on? meh townies fighting -_- | ||
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hm? nah just viva and rayn tag-teaming damdy | ||
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On August 14 2015 05:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Yeah I kinda glossed over that. Damdy does seem quite emo this game. Most unfortunate. yeah :/ eh, i'll post before EoN but i think i need a break from this game myself | ||
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On August 14 2015 07:07 ruXxar wrote: It's a simple question: Who are your scumreads. Give names. nope ^^ if you'd read you'd know that i don't like chez and i'm not sure on palmar, but that's dependent on hopeless' alignment but you haven't | ||
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On August 14 2015 07:08 ruXxar wrote: I don't want you to review anything. Just give me the names at the top of your head that you feel is scum right now. i don't care what you want? | ||
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On August 14 2015 07:11 ruXxar wrote: So I'm correct in saying you think chez and hopeless are scum? i'm not sure on hopeless either ^^ | ||
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On August 14 2015 07:16 ruXxar wrote: No it's a fact. If you're town you should want to try solving the game, not resist when asked to help solve it. me spewing scumreads at you before reevaluating is not helping solve the game ^^ if they weren't good enough for you the first time off the top of my head, they won't be the second time, and frankly i could give a rat's ass what you think the best way to play is i'm not beholden to you and i don't have to bark on command | ||
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On August 14 2015 07:18 ruXxar wrote: This is why I also like VE as town since he responses to my questioning was immediate and natural. There was no hesitation in his answers. cool story | ||
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On August 14 2015 05:38 rsoultin wrote: yeah :/ eh, i'll post before EoN but i think i need a break from this game myself ^ for those poor at englishing to be clear, ruxx, i don't think you're scum, but i have a method and i don't find what you're doing helpful. you can wait | ||
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On August 14 2015 07:27 ruXxar wrote: You spewing scumreads shows me that you actually have scumreads instead of just fabricating scum-reads later by reading peoples filters. Everyone who's town has some thoughts about who they think is scum, whether they are strong or weak reads. If you can't produce those reads on demand or are hesistant to give them it's an indicator that you're scum afraid to commit, or that you're playing anti town on purpose. Either way you're not helping. So how about you actually answer my questions and stop acting like a stuck up self-entitled snob huh? ye you still can't read ^^ bye | ||
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i already answered your question, ruxx, and clearly you think i should answer you to satisfy your own delusions as to how townies should behave so that you can get a read on me well, newsflash, sweetcheeks. i'm town. i already answered you and insults are not going to make me answer any differently. if you're not satisfied with it, that's your problem and not mine | ||
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On August 14 2015 07:32 ruXxar wrote: I don't care what you think about me, I care what your scum reads are. I'm trying to determine your alignment and you're not helping your own case here. If you are town you should want me to town-read you asap so I can focus my effort elsewhere instead of wasting time trying to wrangle answers out of you. still already already answered still already haven't reevaluated still don't give a flying fuck just like you don't ^^ see the bolded take your hypocrisy somewhere else and btw, the point was a whole shit ton of people here are basing their reads off hopeless being scum, so if he is town which i honestly don't think is impossible, we're wasting our time playing scumreads by association i'm going to chill with someone whose company i enjoy now ^^ ciao | ||
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On August 14 2015 08:02 ruXxar wrote: Why are you so waffly on hopeless? Either you want to lynch him or you don't. Since he's the only other name you mentioned besides chez, I'm going to assume you want him lynched. cause i don't care about hopeless? we're storm voting him ^^ | ||
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damdy and i were literally the first people to say this -_- | ||
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damdred - toneread. suck it boys rayn - partially toneread and partially just obv as hell lol viva - cuz horrid scum xP super obv Townish ruxx - toneread yay! artie - <3 if you're playing me this game, wet noodle time trfel - tone says town, but there's an itch i can't scratch :/ Maybe town? prp...just feels like it. voting makes sense with read progression ehhhh ve - read progression is fine but nothing really i don't think he couldn't do as scum? palmar - can't tell -_- don't like his read on damdy + voted for hopeless when if chez is scum, hopeless can't be lynched Scum hopeless1der - votecount and silence strongly indicates scum (should soon find out! \o/) chezinu - get prp's argument, still don't like his timing and i don't think he's a moron ^ not much time but i wanted to get what i had out before deadline @.@ | ||
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On August 14 2015 22:13 Palmar wrote: hey rsoultin. Let's make a list. List of people who voted mafia yesterday: Palmar List of people who didn't vote mafia yesterday: rsoultin. See last game, the only reason I wanted to lynch you was that you were interfering with my plans of lynching OWS ![[image loading]](http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/Boxing-Fisticuffs-Kensington-Park-Toronto-01.jpg) Come at me! palmar, let's make a list 1. palmar is mafia 2. palmar is a retard \o/ i r the chaaaaampion! | ||
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-kicks damdy in the ankle- the passive aggression is real >> so when did prp get a hard-on for lynching chez, anyway? did i miss something? | ||
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On August 12 2015 18:19 prplhz wrote: anyway i'm up to date and what can i say, i got nothing. this thread is just a whole lot of words. maybe since last time i played i sort of forgot everything i knew about playing mafia but i don't really have any reads. would probably actually lynch chez? funny that's not why i voted him. but i might lynch him just because i can't make sense of him anyway. most other players i think can redeem themselves but i just don't understand chez and his umbrella analogies. i forgot he took this stance d1 -_- that actually makes it stranger though this was before he decided to berate me for scumreading chez lol >< | ||
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On August 14 2015 22:50 Damdred wrote: Its ok partner palmar I'll hard carry the game foe you when I bus you tommorow. But your post doesn't make sense with the sense that's in my post(?) RS. Just don't know how prp says basically opposite things about chez meh lol that's why it stuck out to me when i was looking for what changed his mind i'd completely forgotten that opening push on chez he made :/ | ||
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On August 15 2015 00:16 ruXxar wrote: What? How does this make sense? You do know hopeless is scum? this is viva if you are not scumread by viva by the end of the game (often by the end of the first day lol >>) he is not doing his job ^^ but in all honesty it doesn't even matter. ticking timebomb ticktick lol >< | ||
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On August 15 2015 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well Palmar is going to etiher die because he is blue or he's gonna be mafia so noone should care about it right now. ninja'd :/ i prefer my ticking timebomb joke though -beats with wet noodle- | ||
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On August 15 2015 00:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't believe in a Chez/Prp scumteam. If Chez doesn't flip scum I'm open to the idea though. i'm with damdy and mostly just want him to answer cause it doesn't make sense o.0 but why? | ||
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On August 15 2015 00:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: You are Prplhz. You hate playing mafia. You join the game, get a role PM. It contains a link to your scum QT. You sigh. You open it and after the mod post, you see these two posts: Chezinu: Tropical Storms are fascinating phenomena. Though very lethal on the outside, if you stay within the eye of the storm, it is practically harmless! Hopeless1der: I'm just gonna go post some random shit then afk, peace You HATE playing mafia. Your buddies are under suspicion and a bit of dirt is thrown on you as well. Do you... A) Afk and give up B) Try a little bit with very little enthusiasm, then give up once it's not immediately successful C) Ask to be replaced out D) Accuse your scummates in an attempt to get credit for the lategame that you hate, argue a lot about a scenario in which your scummate is town, approach things in a very reasonable way and put a lot of effort in without pushing any real agenda whilst also appearing genuine and being more active than half the towngames you've played I just don't think Prp is capable of D. I just don't think he could bring up the motivation if his scumteam was that shit, he'd just wave the white flag. lol ye that makes sense okay | ||
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On August 15 2015 00:53 ruXxar wrote: He said he was just gonna afk all day. How is that not an easy target? it's palmar | ||
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i don't understand why we're still talking about this -_- much as i poke fun at him, palmar's a good player and all you're doing is insulting him to what, prove a point? talking about something you know nothing about? he's not an easy lynch. end of story | ||
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On August 15 2015 02:03 Vivax wrote: The way suspicion builds up on Chez for the cop business is pretty shitty. who is scum, then? | ||
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On August 15 2015 02:07 Vivax wrote: Likely one of the people chiming in on the choir of suspicion. I want to hear from Damdred (and not from rayn) why a VE NK makes Chez scum. nh, that's most of the game is the problem viva -_- | ||
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i was one of the first people saying i didn't like chez this game @ruxx...rayn thinks chez is town because chez isn't posting anything that would have any chance in hell of getting him out of the noose and rayn thinks that means he's not scum? it's not great reasoning but he was still fairly clear on it | ||
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On August 15 2015 19:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like this is the post i am talking about. There is so much wrong in this post. the don't like to lynch lurkers -> let's lynch a lurker, progression? | ||
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On August 15 2015 22:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: My point is you haven't really done anything to solve the game whilst you have been posting. Coupled with the fact that I've felt your heart hasn't been in the game to begin with it leads me to believe that you are in fact mafia. Saying you're not is not the strongest argument in your favour. lol i don't think you've ever seen me play mafia, have you? eh, really don't care? if any of chez/prp/palmar are scum you can apologize profusely to me then cause i've literally done the most in this game do you have any other theories you could actually be right on? cause this looks a lot more like people getting antsy close to a lynch than actually thinking chez is town to me | ||
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On August 15 2015 22:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think I've seen you play mafia but I haven't been in a game you were mafia in until now. I believe you're playing very differently from how you play town though in the games that I have played with you, and that leads me to believe you're likely to be scum. Your presence is just too weak and you haven't been quite as arrogant as you usually are. lol >< well that's nice when you can actually make a case that i have a weak scum presence or i'm not arrogant as scum, come back with this drivel | ||
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though personally i think it's rather interesting that you decide to start a counterwagon on someone who 100% is not going to be lynched today (or ever, really, but lol >< that's beside the point) and your version of a case is not only weak as shit but demonstrably untrue you don't actually look into my scum play you don't actually try to push your scumread and you completely ignore the one player that you know (because we had this conversation pre-game) who actually can kind of read me and yes i say kind of because i've yet to see anyone consistently read me correctly as both alignments on this forum ^^ just know that if chez flips town i'm gunning for you artie <3 this half-assed attempt to push scum on me doesn't smack of someone really that convinced that the main wagon is town and he's found scum lol >< | ||
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most everyone here has seen it and what you described is not it, to anyone with eyes at best, you're applying an overarching heuristic to me blindly | ||
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On August 16 2015 00:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Mostly because Rayn seems to think he's town, I'm still unsure about him and I've had suspicions about you for a while now that I hadn't expressed or looked into, so when Rayn started looking for alternatives it seemed like the best time to bring you up. suspicions you haven't bothered to voice? based on...what? not playing that much? lol >< yeah, cause i'm a real inactive scum player if you're town, do the legwork. otherwise feel free to continue to spout idiocy ^^ | ||
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On August 16 2015 00:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote: You don't have to, but if you think I'm town then you want me to not vote for you, surely. lol >< wow if you actually think you can get me lynched today, especially off this, you must be delusional as either alignment. frankly, that's why i'm beginning to think that you're not town | ||
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On August 16 2015 00:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote: You haven't been inactive though. You've still got plenty of filter pages. My problem is that you're not doing much with them. You haven't impacted the thread in a significant way. zzz people say this every game i play. try again | ||
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you're trying to lynch someone who won't be lynched today while saying that you're not sure about chez' alignment ^^ hell, you won't even commit to saying that you think i'm more likely to be scum than chez despite voting me you're laying it at rayn's feet, saying that he seems to think chez is town and then you bring me up? out of the blue? this will end with chez being lynched. you're also ignoring who rayn wants to lynch, but apparently his opinion is good enough for you to sheep off chez? call it omgus all you want, but this push accomplishes nothing while looking busy and attacking a player who isn't "low-hanging fruit" well, sweetie, i just attacked hf in gaiden lol >< don't assume i'm gonna sit here and pull a palmar and go "well anyone who attacks me must be town cause they'd be insane to do it as scum" | ||
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On August 16 2015 00:12 Damdred wrote: It just another thing this game, RS isn't getting lynched today. Of we entertain RS being scum (which I'm pretty sure she isn't) we have to entertain the idea that rayn is scum with how he's jumping forgetting scum reads etc. Truffle stopped playing and hasn't cared since the flip tbh, he even goes to question chez and afk. Though I think its more telling prp is doing jack shit today then trfel. So maybe pro is scum chez is town and we have a sleeper mafia do you think i'm omgusing damdy? cause i don't think i am at all >< | ||
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i'd be down for a prp or truffle lynch i dunnae about chez -_- like i don't think rayn's reason for townreading him is any good? but at the same time i don't like the idea of one huge uncontested wagon. it gives us nothing if he flips town but this everyone going every which way that lex is promoting is even worse really -_- | ||
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On August 16 2015 00:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Why are you pretty sure that RSoul isn't scum? Also, which scumread did Rayn forget about? I'm not following. Also, why do you bring up Trfel and Prpl both as suspicious, but then end up just on Prp/? ? what do you think about truffle? you just ignored it when rayn brought it up ^^ | ||
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On August 16 2015 00:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm not trying to downplay it, I think you're omgusing for shitty reasons. I don't have a good read on Chez. Rayn, a person I value highly and am fairly certain is town, says he's pretty sure Chez isn't scum. He brings up Trfel, but I have a reason to think Trfel isn't mafia. I don't really have one for you. This push accomplishes that more people give their opinion on you, and allows me to get a better read on you. lol >< sure and that reason is? | ||
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On August 15 2015 19:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote: The Hopeless/Trfel interaction still bothers me though, it seems like a small point but does scum really focus their attention on responding to another scum when they barely post at all? oh this bit of nothing? you're right -_- you have really shit reasons behind your reads this game, you know that? | ||
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On August 16 2015 00:19 Vivax wrote: I'm also slightly paranoid about rayn tbf eh pretty sure rayn is town his scum game looks more like him trying to beat everyone over the head with a lynch. he's actually interacting, and that's usually a good sign that he's town | ||
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On August 16 2015 00:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Apparently you think I'm mafia for trying to push you when you can't be lynched today, which is a shitty reason. You also think I'm scum for it being presumably shitty reasons, which is basically OMGUS. eh, honestly if you really don't have much an opinion on chez it doesn't much matter. i still don't like it because it looks like you're just doing something to appear productive, but if you don't have a hard townread on chez then just throwing out suspicions that won't go anywhere is whatever | ||
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On August 16 2015 00:26 Vivax wrote: When I reread D1, what caught me was his snap vote on hopeless after some replies, wich was explained as hopeless having no reads and giving smug answers. You notice it'll bounce from voting hopeless and more or less telling him what he should do to me having to explain the artanis meta to him, to him joining in with me on ruxxar. What irks me here is that he voted hopeless rather agressively, but then he didn't really seem convinced he was scum. I can see room for that to be done by mafia (not only so it's not a nail in the coffin), but I'd rather not consider even lynching rayn until later days after the NKs tell us more. nh...i could see that? it's worth asking him about, anyway the impression i had was he had two scumreads (ruxx/hopeless) and reverted back to hopeless once it was clear we wouldn't lynch ruxx. not bad play if you're bussing lol >< but tonally i'd still say this looks a lot more like his town game? | ||
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On August 16 2015 00:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: If you honestly think this is how I try to appear productive as mafia then our opinions on eachothers play this game are on par. lol >< careful artie; it looks like you're admitting that i'm town here. gonna make it hard to push me | ||
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well, i didn't. lol >< not sure how that makes me scum, though | ||
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i'm not as sure chez is scum, though that's more because of how everyone else is acting and has nothing to do with him prp/truffle definitely could be, especially if chez is town artie's at best misguided, but i wouldn't put it past him to be scum this game ruxx prob town still have strong townreads on you, damdy, and rayn and yeah, i'm pretty much ignoring palmar for obv reasons ^^ he's done if he's scum anyway. just a matter of time | ||
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hopeless talked to truffle therefore truffle is town why is prp town, artanis? | ||
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but i'm mafia okay artie lol >< it holds no water whatsoever. the bit on prp is decent, though. it's what had me waffling on him | ||
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On August 16 2015 00:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I find it ironic that you say that my observation holds no water whilst claiming I should read you as town because your reads overlap with mine. You do realize that's not relevant at all right? if you're going to claim that i've had no impact on the game then come in with the same reads (kind of because for whatever reason you seem to think that you have reasons to townread other people you're suspicious of but not me lol ><)...where is your head actually at? if this is a true, good way to evaluate a player, you're scum by your own heuristic or are you claiming that you've had more of an impact on this game somehow? btw this has nothing to do with your truffle townread being weak as shit. if there's a reason to townread truffle (and there is), it's not that. it's because his town this game has been pretty light and he's not good at replicating that as scum but what you're focusing in on is hopeless talked to him? lol >< do you even realize how fake that sounds? | ||
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On August 16 2015 01:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I was the driving force behind the Deconduo lynch, however misguided it might've been. I've been more influential in the game. That we have similar reads doesn't matter shit; it matters how much we've changed the course of the game, and I'm certain I've done that a lot more than you have. Anyway, I went through Carnaval a bit and I think I picked something up. I'm not interested in pursuing you right now. As for Trfel, I was pointing out something that was on the top of my head and something I had noticed that I figured other people wouldn't. You can keep repeating that it doesn't mean anything, that's okay. You may have that opinion. lol your argument is that i parked on condor when it looked like hopeless was an inevitable lynch and your rally behind the spreadsheet argument that ultimately saved scum!hopeless was a bigger impact on the game and that makes you town? you're great at this artie yes, you're right ^^ i didn't push hard to save my scum buddy while not taking credit for his lynch. must be scum | ||
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-rolls eyes- didn't i say it was obvious to anyone who has read those games that your argument was weak as shit? though kudos for bothering to actually look the game up -golf claps- who are we lynching artanis? | ||
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though the point really was that arguing that making an impact is relevant to begin with is fallacious eh i don't really care if you tell me or not, artie. i'm town. by definition anything you find or don't find is wrong -shrugs- keep looking, though, if it makes you feel better | ||
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On August 16 2015 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: guys... guys.... guys...we should really lynch Trfel. rayn...rayn...rayn...i have issues with him but i'm trying to understand what it is about that post that you hate so much? is it just that condor was a lurker when he said he didn't want to lynch lurkers? | ||
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the second bit is really strong actually...i know i've seen hopeless around, but not condor at all, and truffle's the type to do the footwork rather than just say shit as for ruxxar, given how many people i've had to fight with the last couple games, i dunnae that that's a good argument. you'd definitely think he'd be paying more attention to his own scumread, though @.@ | ||
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On August 16 2015 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: the thing is ruxxar DID actually push Hopeless, and while being illogical he pushed Hopeless over Vivax. Scum don't usually push their mates over town, AT LEAST with illogical arguments. ye, and he pushed the shit out of the storm vote thing, too | ||
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On August 16 2015 02:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Like Rayn case. Will sheep. Prp's ninja vote is worrying but seems stupid to do as either alignment. ##Unvote ##Vote Trfel so rayn's case is better than hopeless spoke to truffle? @.@ what about it makes you want to switch? | ||
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On August 16 2015 02:16 Damdred wrote: This whole thing just makes me tear my hair out. Like 100% what Vivax has said speaks ot me about rayn, hes somewhat forgotten his ruxxar scum read during the night phase. I mean I think rux is town, but his play was really similar to last game, and the d1 vote switchto hopeless and rayn never considering rux super bussing or anything past n1 is just weird in a sense. I think hes town still at this point but it just bugs me a bit. Because Prp is more prone to just not do shit as mafia even when he needs to, which is alignment indicative. However truffle being afk isnt' as alignment indicative. i agree lol he'll just disappear for huge chunks of time, especially lately. he also will just not read for huge chunks of time still, i really like rayn's second point, and the hey talk to me about...nvm i'm just gonna vote and afk thing he pulled today bugs me -_- what does prp gain from ninja-voting truffle? | ||
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On August 16 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Funny because i jsut went into his filter in Gaiden and i actually had to double check i am not accidently reading this game... he was town in gaiden? o.0 | ||
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On August 16 2015 07:26 ruXxar wrote: What reason did prpl have to vote for chez? He couldn't understand him: But then when rsoul calls chez scum for the same reason? Oh snap, suddenly its fine for chez to do weird things. yeah i pointed this out ages ago, and it makes no more sense now than it did then :/ | ||
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On August 16 2015 03:26 Trfel wrote: Please explain. The difference between deconduo and Hopeless1der for me on Day 1 is that I've played with Hopeless1der before. I haven't played with deconduo before. The fact that deconduo has a ton of experience playing mafia suggests that he actually enjoys it, meaning that it's very likely that he enjoys actually working with people and solving the game. Deconduo seemed to be fairly active (aside from the late start) and trying to be helpful. The fact that, despite this, he didn't bother to try and work with people or change his reads based on what people shared, is extremely suspicious. As to raynpelikoneet's other point, I have terrible memory, which is why I generally spend way too much time playing mafia and constantly rereading everything. You can clearly see this in my better towngames. However, since I'm home for the summer, I have much less time to play mafia because my family always comes first. I can't remember everything. Raynpelikoneet, I think we have a different definition of "scumread". This is simply nonsense. Yes, you can tell this from my grand total of TWO scum games (one of them half a year ago). I'm not used to seeing such ridiculous statements from Damdred. this :/ and lol >< again with your associative scumreads | ||
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On August 16 2015 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't care rsoultin. Go lynch town again. I don't care. I don't care because i am not being listened to and i don't know how the fuck i can be more clear than i have already, on EVERY point of this game. But at some point i just lynch the people who lynch town over scum when both are on the line. Do what you have to, it's possible i am wrong, but i am not. yeah well, if you were always right over my tonereads maybe that would be enough for me @.@ | ||
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y'all are gonna have to find another target after you mislynch me though lol >< toodles | ||
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On August 16 2015 19:35 Chezinu wrote: So, what do you think about the Chezinu Rule? should i have an opinion? i'm one of the few here who doesn't really know it -shrugs- | ||
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nope lol i'm saying i'm not very familiar with it like my post said amazing how that english stuff works | ||
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On August 16 2015 19:40 Chezinu wrote: alive.. I see... So are you a killer storm? A killer of all other storms? mhm, the killer storm everyone's gonna lynch tomorrow before they realize there's always a bigger, badder storm out there lol >< | ||
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i'm kind of tired of fighting lynches after lylo with onegu @.@ and then i had a leg to stand on. i've been wrong too often this game. it is what it is | ||
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i was gonna be quite mad if it didn't say "you're a girl" after that many spoilers ^^ keep me company, chez? i like to play ^^ | ||
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On August 16 2015 19:58 Chezinu wrote: So, who was your coach in your first mafia game? lol gb was my first coach ^^ i've also been coached by eden and marv | ||
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On August 16 2015 20:01 Chezinu wrote: Interesting.. I suspected much.. gb shadows.. he is learning little from me this game. >> heh not sure if that's a comment about him or you right now -rolls around the thread- | ||
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On August 16 2015 20:05 Chezinu wrote: So what do you think about Damdred. How does his play compare to the first game you played with him? What was his role in the first game? damdy's town only player i'm 99.9999999% sure of i'm always right on him ever since i nailed down my toneread lol >< | ||
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i'm sure you do lol >< but i'm not good enough or experienced enough with a chezy to know what that is :/ | ||
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rasputin, rasputin...but i lynched the scum ^^ | ||
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On August 16 2015 20:10 Chezinu wrote: I've been playing with some people for 7 years.. and they still struggle. They don't advertise my player Guides... heh i'm arrogant enough to think i might be able to crack the code ^^ as long as you don't disappear and not play with the rsoul | ||
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it's tone and meta only other thing was his waffling on d1 and not voting for hope, really -shrugs- he's clearly not playing for towncred/survivability? like, rayn says scum won't buss! but when the writing's on the wall, not sure how true that is, really :/ rayn's way of playing catches scum but he makes bad assumptions sometimes inb4 he gets mad at me when i've been wrong both lynches lol >> it's just being objective | ||
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On August 16 2015 20:51 ruXxar wrote: Because the only thing holding me back from lunching trfel was a meta read, and I just learned that faking your own town meta is not so hard as you might think. Try to imagine that you don't have a meta read on damdred, and just look at his play this game, his votes, his logic. Do you still think there's 0% chance he's scum? there's the remotest, slightest, he fooled me for the first time ever since i solidified my toneread on him in mmm2 chance he's scum? but it's so unlikely that it's not worth considering, in my mind lol >< | ||
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On August 16 2015 20:57 ruXxar wrote: Don't see how you can say that when you voted on trfel for the same reason I did. And if you recall I also suspected trfel. it means that obviously i've always been way more certain of damdy than truffle? | ||
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On August 16 2015 21:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm on a holy quest to point out all your strawmen until you stop making strawman arguments. can't be a strawman if it's not an argument are you gonna do something useful? | ||
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On August 16 2015 21:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I already did. I want to lynch you, then lynch Damdred if you're not mafia. A better question is; when are you going to? okay, and after we both flip town? ^^ | ||
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On August 16 2015 21:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I already did. I want to lynch you, then lynch Damdred if you're not mafia. A better question is; when are you going to? tbh i'm probably not going to i don't really feel like it once y'all lynch me maybe you'll listen about damdy; maybe you won't | ||
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On August 16 2015 21:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I presume I'll be NKed by that point already. And we'll see by that time. lol >< considering final scum is prob you or palmar...outside chance of chez we'll see | ||
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On August 16 2015 21:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Simple: If you're not mafia, you can find the last mafia and then we lynch that person. Or you can go and be an emo after contributing fuck all to the game and get lynched. <3 you too | ||
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i know better than to think that a lynch rayn and art are both screaming for based on rather poor assumptions is going to go through. and yeah, i could fight it and probably even get out of it, if we're being honest, cause i'm good at that. but honestly? saying i've contributed nothing to this game doesn't really make me inclined to continue to waste my breath | ||
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On August 16 2015 21:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote: If you really think I can be mafia this game you have no clue how to read me. lol that may be so >< but i really think you can, yes ^^ | ||
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On August 16 2015 21:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote: This post makes me think you're mafia even more. If you believe I'm likely to be mafia, the fact that I'm tunneling you and saying you contributed nothing should make you motivated to catch me, especially given that town lynched two mafia already. The fact that you're not leads me to believe you already know that I'm town which is the real reason for your demotivation; your scumteam fell apart, you look terrible and you don't have any kind of foothold. tunnel | ||
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my lack of motivation stems from a certain argument and things that have nothing to do with this game, which is funny because it was part of your original "scumread" that you now seem to have forgotten? | ||
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On August 16 2015 21:30 ruXxar wrote: ?? Then I lynch the rest of he people in order of scummy ness. lol >< ye, fine not gonna say i think damdy's scum just to get out of a lynch enjoy your days of failure /out | ||
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i love this story. i really do "rsoul is demotivated" somehow she got demotivated well before the truffle lynch, but her demotivation is definitely related to it keep telling it to yourself and blame me for the mislynch. i'm fine with that. i was wrong enough i deserve it, really, but it still doesn't change my role pm, and changing y'all's scumreads, taking shit out of context and pretending like i didn't stop really playing long before truffle was lynched or even was one of the wagons to suit your little convenient scum world also doesn't change my role pm i know i've played like shit. lynch me and be done with it | ||
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On August 16 2015 21:39 ruXxar wrote: That hurts coming from you rsoul. Hit me right in the feels meh -_- i'm not trying to be mean, but seriously? how is it better for y'all to lynch my top townread than me? if i'm right on anyone this game it's fucking damdred seriously if anyone's paying attention after i flip never lynch damdred | ||
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On August 16 2015 21:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Or you're, you know, demotivated because you rolled scum again after rolling scum last game where you had to work for it all the way into and including lylo. ... are you seriously this obtuse? i was town that game. keep selling the lies damnit does no one even see this shit? >< | ||
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On August 16 2015 21:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I was talking about Carnaval, the last game in the database. I just noticed from your profile page you've played one game in between though, didn't know that. -_- ye, you fucking know i was town, you fucking know i was in lylo, we talk on skype, you fucking know that onegu and i just won after lynching obi, while onegu trolled me for nearly two days bs lynch artie when i'm dead, rayn. promise >< | ||
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the demotivated bit doesn't work for the truffle lynch? now you have to find a reason for me to be generally demotivated that makes me scum | ||
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but then they'll get you and i'll be laughing from the qt the whole time getrekt | ||
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1. there are actually two games in there since carnaval 2. it's still missing the one i just finished rekt! | ||
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okay artie everyone, lynch artie when i flip town, plzthx -drops mic- | ||
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On August 16 2015 22:05 ruXxar wrote: Ok I'm done crying. Rs what would you say is your most meaningful contributions to this game? Just curious, no flamerinos pls mostly just protecting my townreads, unfortunately -_- until y'all lynch artie anyway there's no reason for me to do that as scum. they can say all they want about me being demotivated, but fighting your lynch and damdy's lynch and getting the asswipes to stop shitting all over him is one of the towniest damn things in the thread -_- not that it matters lynch artanis after i flip if by some crazy chance he's not scum, it's palmar but he's probably not the lynch tomorrow regardless, even if he's still alive chez...stopped a no-lynch so i don't think it's likely he's scum | ||
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why doesn't scum who is present buss their scummate when they've got lord knows how many mislynches they have to get to win? y'all are stupid to be looking at the prp wagon at all unless the player was afk during the lynch palmar is just obviously scum if he's not blue. that'll play out soon enough but i really think if you lynch art you hit scum here | ||
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On August 16 2015 22:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I didn't believe the way you played made sense for scum at all, and tonally it just wasn't the way scum acts. I wasn't involved in the argument so it was easy to have an unbiased view on it. I'm not sure how that feels off. Directing a lynch off mafia doesn't make someone mafia. It just makes them wrong. "Crawling up rayn's ass" also does not make someone mafia. I think Rayn is very town and I trusted his reads in this instance. "keeps throwing things at me that deliberately misrepresent me" - Nope. Just shitty memory. I believe that we've talked about it and I vaguely remember it, but when I went to look at your latest game I went to the database and took my info from that. " because he switched back over to truffle when the writing was on the wall" What? I could easily have switched to prplhz and guarantee his lynch. I waffled so hard it would've been to no one's surprise whatsoever, and I don't play scum for the lategame ever. I always go for the fastest win possible because fuck playing scum. I was a major deciding vote in getting Trfel lynched and if I had switched over to prpl he was likely to die. Your case is shit. ^^ it's okay they'll listen once i flip | ||
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buddying is a thing...you can have a townread without playing kissass yeah try to back out of it wifom wifom wifom if y'all don't lynch artanis before the game is over i'm beating you all with wet noodles >< maybe even something harder lol ^^ | ||
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well you'll probably be dead by the time the decision rolls around, at least lynch me tomorrow. hell i'll vote for myself (i think i'm allowed?) then lynch artanis. it's not just some inconsistency why aren't you reading my whole case >< promise you'll read it when i flip town | ||
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On August 16 2015 22:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote: So basically you've got no arguments left and now you're just yelling. I gotcha. nope ^^ you're still scum, my arguments are still awesome, and if town is smart they'll lynch you once i'm dead | ||
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On August 16 2015 22:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Your arguments are all refuted, you have literally nothing. Pls go die asaply. demonstrably not refuted lynch artanis ^^ | ||
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On August 16 2015 22:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Demonstrably refuted since all you could say is "it could be scum" "wifom" and "back out of it". One: It could also be town, plus I've been more right than you are so that should apply more to you than to me. Does not make me mafia. Two: Town can and does buddy just as hard as mafia does. Does not make me mafia. Three: Says absolutely nothing. Does not make me mafia. Four: "Wifom" says nothing. Does not make me mafia. Nothing you've said even approaches a case. nothing you said refutes it. all you've said is why it could come from town newsflash anyone can do that, pretty ^^ by your standards i've already refuted your case. guess that means i can't be scum and can never be lynched! yay! lynch artanis | ||
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yeah, most everyone else has good reasons to be town? chez is prob town for lynching truffle instead of allowing a no-lynch to go through i trust my initial read on viva...i don't think his scum game is this good. only doubt is that vote that brought it to a no-lynch -_- rayn still town, still hard-headed (and i guess i can't blame him in this case @.@) palmar is a don't touch till later...i dunnae how to read him right now and don't really care prp brought attention to truffle early...it's possibly that was a scum v. scum wagon but then why the early switch off chez onto truffle? he couldn't have known that it would gain momentum that fast as scum i'd think...scum should be later on the wagon ruxxy/damdy are tonereads and damdy i'm especially sure of you're it, artie. i'm sorry if it's palmar, but on the bright side...if it's him town has already won lol >< artie is scum | ||
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On August 16 2015 22:45 Palmar wrote: stop calling me mafia rsoultin, it's annoying. don't care ^^ promise you'll lynch artie after my flip and i'll call you town the rest of the game? | ||
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i'm not a case-maker, rayn. i can sit there and pick out a bunch of shit and say hey this looks scummy, but the long and short of it is i think the others are town no one has a case on me, either. it's pure poe. people want to lynch me because i've been wrong and i haven't really been playing since you guys started in on damdy. don't pretend it's anything else lol >< well, once i flip you'll have to poe someone else. ruxxy i can possibly maybe be wrong on but i have never been wrong on damdy since mmm2...that's when i cracked the code. don't lynch damdy :/ viva i guess i could be wrong on too, but i really doubt it the thing is nothing artie has done in this game couldn't come from scum. yes, i was wrong. but what was my end goal? afk off the scum lynch and not push the mislynch? that's retarded. he pushed it. he saved hope what was my end goal with truffle? yes, i was wrong, but i was here for EoD (if kinda tipsy lol ><) i knew that he was getting lynched. why would i push him with you as a counter to chez, then switch to prp, and not switch back? i could have lol >< i wasn't very sure on either of them. instead i was on the wrong wagon when truffle is 100% going to flip scum but then there's artie waffling not knowing what to do? yes we both waffled, but one end point is what happens when you have complete info and one is what happens when you're just wrong -_- | ||
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he never ever ever says just randomly oh truffle's town, oh wait that case is good enough i'll sheep -_- your case was decent but like none of his shit is ever explained? it doesn't make sense? he just has to be scum, rayn, i don't know what else i can tell you >< if you have to lynch me first to get there, fine, but please please please lynch artie >< he's scum | ||
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i really just don't know how to explain it any better rayn, i'm sorry. i try to feel good about my play but how can i after last game? why do you want a case from me? i've proven i'm great at making kick-ass cases on town; it means nothing just...lynch artie later okay? i don't know what else to say or how to make it any clearer | ||
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On August 16 2015 23:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: why? why is he mafia? goddamn it rayn what of what i've already said don't you understand?! i don't know how to make it any clearer! | ||
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artie is blatantly misrepresenting my play trying to make it look like i'm demotivated because 1. oh both scummates are dead (i haven't been really playing since the thing with you, damdy and viva, oops!) 2. oh must be the team is weak (was truffle really a weak team? he had a great scum game last game and did a ridiculously good job imitating the lighter tone this game >< if not for your case, hell, even if he'd been around i think he prob wouldn't have been lynched yesterday) 3. oh well, if not that, it must be she just rolled scum (wait, i didn't -_- but he just "forgot"?) truffle is getting lynched. scum will be on his wagon unless they're afk. that's it. like, to think otherwise is to think the last scum didn't know that truffle was dying (afk) or is a pure retard the ones who look worst on the wagon are viva and artanis...artanis had no reason to switch just sheepled. viva caused a no-lynch if chez didn't move. chez moving practically clears him...and i really have a hard time seeing a scum viva this game it has to be art :/ | ||
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On August 16 2015 10:08 geript wrote: [/s][/s]Vote Count Chezinu (0): Trfel (5): raynpelikoneet, prplhz, rsoultin (0): Artanis[Xp] prplhz (5): Damdred, Not Voting (0): Currently No One is set to be lynched. Day 2 ends on August 16 02:00 GMT (+00:00) in this right here, rayn...vivax' vote put it at 5v5 which is a no-lynch chez switched his vote specifically to prevent that from happening, as far as i could tell...no scum motivation to do that lol >< especially when switching his vote ends in a scum lynch and pls ignore the man behind the curtain in the voting thread lol -_- | ||
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i'm not saying viva is scum lol >< it was mostly a "this is why chez is town" actually though i hadn't really thought it out that far; i've just never seen a solid scum game from viva...i don't think this is the game he breaks the curse | ||
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On August 17 2015 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like are all the people who are not on prplhz at this point unallowed to vote for Trfel? Or is the first one to do that scummy just because "hey deadlocking people is scummy as no-lynch"? i'm confused -_- | ||
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On August 17 2015 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: your and damdred's argument is that vivax is scummy because he made the vote into 5-5. It does not make any sense because what is vivax supposed to do if he thinks Trfel is mafia and prplhz is not. Like he cannot vote? You just made that argument. What is the townie move for Vivax in the situation where Trfel is at (4) and prplhz is at (5) and he thinks Trfel is mafia? Tell me. -_- yes my argument is viva is scummy when i'm townreading him good job, rayn i said it looked bad for that reason | ||
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awww nah, it'd be because if i could shoot myself in the face this game i would lol @.@ | ||
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On August 17 2015 10:53 Chezinu wrote: You say something this game that Chezinu would never say. Do you know what you said? what's that? | ||
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you're such a troll, chez <3 | ||
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On August 17 2015 10:56 Damdred wrote: RS is a pro well RS what do you think of arts responses to me? lol of course he's town damdy the only real question here is how many of y'all i guessed right lol >< i didn't have any motivation to play this game, just as artie said >> (btw, damdy...i <3 you too much to take advantage of you, even as scum. a major weakness of mine. you should never townread me for that, lovely. though i think i did a fair job of imitating my d1 toneread day lol) YOLO! \o/ | ||
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-shrugs- maybe he'll tell me later yeeeah we staged that opening play around thing fairly well i think | ||
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i was framer and didn't bother to frame myself...this was a yolo move anywho daaaamdy ise sorry :/ and yeah kinda to everyone really. i should have kept playing but...eh i just had no oomph :/ it's not been a great week for my feels also ruxx <3 please don't take anything i say personally, especially when i'm scum lol >< artie had me pretty dead to rights ^^ good show from him | ||
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On August 17 2015 11:08 Damdred wrote: I played so horribly overall I had ok town reads besides RS, I just wanted to lynch trfel or prp d1 and big hopeless. D2 was meh I had plesant distractions keeping me away from game. Then errands around eod. Still I played pretty badly oh well just wasn't in a good enough rhythm lol >> you made me feel dirty boyo | ||
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^^ tina's my actual name people have problems with rsoul cause it sounds like they're cursing at me i guess? i'd really like to play a town game with you chez btw ^^ | ||
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On August 17 2015 11:13 Chezinu wrote: So do you guys know who Henri is now? i imagine it's you? | ||
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beyond that i just...guessed a lot but yeahgeript, you misogynist you >> | ||
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i also don't typically concede as scum but ye it's been kinda a...depressive?...week for me and i couldn't really stomach this game right now :/ i didn't know it would be like that when i signed in or i wouldn't have subjected y'all to it | ||
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you're saying i talk too much? lol i only have that in my sig cause va complained that the only reason i wasn't lynched/my scum team won in gaiden was i was a girl and people don't like to vote for me ^^ i'm probably going to change it soon cause i think people take it as a taunt/challenge/invitation lol >< | ||
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damdy only recently stopped referring to me as a he >> despite knowing i'm female for some time | ||
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On August 17 2015 11:49 MoosyDoosy wrote: oh yea, LightningStrike called Trfel/rsoul during Night 1/early Day 2. Man's a boss. I'm scared of him now. -_- ls didn't call us i told him lol >< he assumed i was town xP he cannot keep a seeeeecret | ||
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i was on a 3-game win streak...one in 3-man-lylo but...eh yeah, this just wasn't a good time for me i actually was drinking most of d2 lol >< | ||
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On August 17 2015 11:55 Chezinu wrote: WHAT IS UP WITH THAT!?!? Rayn was drinking others was drinking.. them shadows be drinking... http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/ZnPxcVMXV2Y2 eh it's not very normal for me rayn drinks a lot, though. so does gb ^^ | ||
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On August 17 2015 11:55 MoosyDoosy wrote: Chezinu rating is 10/10. You did well m8. Although I'd advise you not to get frustrated over ruXxar so easily. Despite at least 3(?) previous people telling him you do this every game, it took Vivax as the 4th(?) person for him to understand. XD It's just ruXxar. And I was quite disappointed at the drop of character. lol i <3 ruxxy you both will always be my coachees ^^ ahemdon'tclaimdocahem >> | ||
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On August 17 2015 12:08 MoosyDoosy wrote: l0l0l I got a BM post from geript who said he hates my initials MD. -.- rsoul ur play was good too. The thing was that in D1 u were very waffly in ur voting although that could have been excused as town. Then you hard pocketed Damdred which was what actually first gave me alarm bells. (bad memories of Wave hard pocketing me in my very first game o-o) D2 was empty which is never good. -.- Yeah, I guess you're right when you say you have no direction as scum. o-o -takes notes- lol the funny part is i actually "pocket" players as town, too. damdy in particular ^^ i'm dreading the day i get mislynched for "tmi" again lol >< i tend to have odd reads quite frequently d1, and being waffly isn't outside the norm d2 was horribad -_- it's kind of hard to get a good idea about the difference between town and scum games without actually seeing both? i'd recommend not metareading specific people until you know them pretty well i'm going to be right on damdy early most games...truffle, too lol >< also rayn, ruxx and viva but yeah, people posting without direction is a pretty good scum tell in general? | ||
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again, apologies to everyone who expected a better game. i don't usually concede and next time i won't lol >< i personally find it to be rude, generally, but i wasn't up for much other than continuing to be lurky so i figured i could just end it now | ||
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palmar <3 i have to say...it felt like you were starting a rivalry with me xP which was kinda fun ^^ also >> hts' sig made me smile eh, geript...i dunnae. i've been working on it and it's hard to say what it would have looked like if i wasn't playing such a shit game in general. i'm aware of the issue, though lol >< | ||
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if i was over the line somewhere please point it out? i've been generally trying to cut back on that lol >< | ||
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On August 17 2015 14:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: nah you did fine geript. I personally don't care if i get insulted and i try to keep it low. I am sorry for all the people who feel like insulted by me. :/ lol you actually made me cry but um i think i'm just kinda messed up right now and it wasn't anything mean/insulting you said i...wasn't lying about not being in a good headspace for this game :/ | ||
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^^; ye i dunnae that wasn't a good thing for me to say, ruxxy it's not really okay. i don't think you're stupid...you remind me a little of other players who have intuitive reads but problems articulating them? regardless it was unnecessary -_- i've been better about keeping comments to people's posts/thoughts and not directing them at them and yeah i don't know why i did that really | ||
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On August 17 2015 15:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: i dnu rsoultin. It was at certain points super annoying to talk to you in this game. Maybe it's because you were mafia. Like whatever whoever said it ended up in a dumb argument over nothing and it would never go anywhere. I know i have done it once before on another forum. It's not even like you (or in this example i) did say anything "insulting", i just trashed on everything anyone said and called all the cases bad and made the thread unreadable. Yeah it can be a good scum strategy but a decent town should lynch that. i wasn't doing that this game? i don't think? you really don't like it when i disagree with you, which is a recurring theme regardless of alignment? it's sad cause i enjoy playing with a town rayn but for whatever reason, if i disagree with you things start getting nasty -_- | ||
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usually for tonereads lol >< which i guess would be considered bad reasons i've just had way more luck with them? and yeah when i have a strong, tone-based scumread i always push it d1...that's pretty rare. i'm usually right too :/ is the thing | ||
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On August 17 2015 16:40 justanothertownie wrote: For srs? Unless there is really bad rl shit happening to you this means you need to take mafia far less seriously and I know that it is quite ironic how this advice is coming from me ^^ If someone asks you the same question over and over again then you probably did not really answer it even if you think you did. If you strive for perfection you need to work on answering questions more directly regardless of your alignment because it is not very likely that someone intentionally tries to tilt you by repeating them (he probably just wants it answered). Even though they are annoying when you have to deal with them in the end flaws like that are what makes a person likable though. For example rayn wouldn't be rayn if he didn't unnecessarily rage from time to time. One day you tell him how proud you are that he has been very reasonable and calm since he returned and the next day he tells someone to go die irl. eh thanks? i guess? you do realize you basically just told me when i said that i don't know how to be clearer/make myself understood...to be clearer? @.@ but no i'm pretty sure it's not the game. i haven't done that before and much crazier shit than being asked a question a dozen times has gone on lol >< | ||
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On August 17 2015 20:12 ruXxar wrote: I'm disappointed you didn't manage to read me town rayn after our last games together. I'm partly responsible though, since after the abrupt stop of the last game I felt empty inside. This game was actually the first game where I wasn't overexcited to be town. It was weird. I don't get the same high anymore. I need to roll scum again so I can remember how good it feels to play town. mmm honestly ruxxy some games you just don't feel it? i dunnae what to say lol >< usually it's cause town is poisonous or i'm stuck trying to explain the same thing over and over with no one understanding...for me but sometimes it can be the game before? it can be just that you need to take a break. i'll probably be taking at least a short one myself lol >< | ||
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it's just what i'd do as town lol...i was trying to get my d1 closer to my town d1 cause i know that damdy is super familiar with my town play and i know that if he wants to vote me and people are paying close enough attention, i'm done. he's one of the few players on this site that reads me well enough to be a real threat? as for the vivax/rayn thing with damdred...eh i was just being all bleeding heart i should be capable of being more ruthless and capitalizing on certain openings but...ye :/ like i have no trouble putting hf on tilt cause he's hf and he wouldn't hesitate a nanosecond but damdy's a nice guy and i don't like to see people making him feel like that @.@ lol i'm such a girl sometimes -_- | ||
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