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bring those votes! \o/ | ||
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just finished my chem class and you bitches can wait a few hours | ||
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townreads teehee has some won't share pfffftt @ igrok | ||
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town town now we can both be lazy <3 -fades into the ether- | ||
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On August 06 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote: well you did say they were going to be bad reasons so I guess I can't complain. rsoul if you have no emotes at all does that make you super town? lol nope it makes me scum forgetting to emote xP this question is silly, though ooooh yes and damdy is like town squared? or don't touch him town...ooooorrr i'm probably right as hell but i'll definitely be right as hell by the time d1 is through lol >< damdy!whisperer | ||
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the preaching, it is absent | ||
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bad coachee, bad -slaps hands- | ||
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On August 06 2015 06:38 ruXxar wrote: careful about town reading me too hard or I might start tunneling you ![]() i'm a goddess ^^ it's prelim, though...lol | ||
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the activity fixation is real and now drumroll please! engage lazy!rsoul mode -poofs- | ||
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i can actually he's taken something arbitrary and is hounding it like a bulldog...super easy thing to hide behind if he's scum the reasoning may be sound but lol >< how he's going about it makes me twitch a little capice, rayn? @ruxx...just finished and blew it away lol...a sane, healthy person would be celebrating :/ i'm here talking to y'all let me be lazy ;o; | ||
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it's cool. the soul thing is an art ksc ksc ksc no anger, no growl, no one stupid enough for your wrath yet? | ||
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no soul it is soulless o.0 no+soul = soul+less = less a soul = demon! grab your torch and pitchfork! or is it garlic? | ||
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without filters we have to try not to run away with the thread, ye? bueno, yeah igrok whenever you stop lecturing and actually playing, let us know? k? k ^^ | ||
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On August 06 2015 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: well ruxxar is mafia. ##vote ruxxar think you're wrong fite me! | ||
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On August 06 2015 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: not for a second do i believe that. hi rsoultin, you scum? hi rayn, you gonna ask a question that has more than one answer? | ||
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On August 06 2015 07:13 iGrok wrote: @rayne, even if he is, he isn't lurking. Right now I still think Tina is an excellent lynch. People who haven't posted at all have the excuse of perhaps not even knowing the game has started. If there's someone who hasn't posted at all by tomorrow, I'll definitely move to lynch them, but for right now Tina the "active lurker" is the best target. lynch lurkers tina so lurky lolol >< | ||
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On August 06 2015 07:16 Damdred wrote: I'm like 89% that ruxxor is town. Rsoultin I kinda think might be town need more time on that but I wouldn't lynch her today anyway. igrok igrok talk to me about igrok/ksc rayn prob town dunnae bout scott but don't really care right now lol >< | ||
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damdy is my name for him ;o; -slaps ruxxy's hands- find your own name! | ||
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On August 06 2015 07:18 KelsierSC wrote: why wouldn't you just start at the beginning you also gave scott a big town read as your first point so how did you jump in 3 pages and land on random things ...then give the first post in the game a town read. not reading in order or ignoring me ;o; | ||
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On August 06 2015 07:19 iGrok wrote: ruXxar, can you please try to consolidate your posts? You've had a triple post on every page since you joined the game. It makes things needlessly difficult to read through, particularly while filters are down. coaching alert | ||
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On August 06 2015 07:20 Damdred wrote: I think ksc I'm more suspicious of than igrok currently. Grok I have no clue how to read yet so I'm needing a bit more, I don't like soley focusing on activity nor do I know why hrs focusing on you specifically when you have been activish. I don't like it but I'm not sure if its scum motivated. Ksc might be a bit to agreeable and accepting of everything going on he keeps asking questions that get answered and its like he doesn't have the curiosity to push for that extra information he normally would. lol same mind same mind <3 ksc/igrok not my favorite people this game :/ which is sad. ksc usually one of my favorites | ||
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On August 06 2015 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Damdred if you think Kelsier is mafia you basically have to think i am mafia. not really you acting townie, probing he acting...not angry grr hate stupid, super sharp sarcasm ksc of win who makes me laugh | ||
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On August 06 2015 07:21 iGrok wrote: What about myself and KSC? What are your reasons for finding rayne town? ye, reading is a skill ^^ | ||
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On August 06 2015 07:26 KelsierSC wrote: some people have posted smart things this game ruxxar has also posted. Nothing to really get angry about ye we'll see ise waaaaaatching you ksc ignoring me >> dangerous to ignore me | ||
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read reasoning think grade C why? that's not why he's reading iGrok scummy why? so what about townreads? why? so what if he's not doing what he "should" why? why does rayn have to be scum if igrok could be scum C- actually try again ^^ | ||
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On August 06 2015 07:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: I also kinda think Damdred is mafia because he fails to realize this. and rsoultin. lol i'm not going to agree with you just because you think you're smart and therefore all other smart people must always agree with your reads you can be wrong #dealwithit | ||
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apparently this is a real thought of his...watch this, watch this i can't trust your damdy read cause it's ASSOCIATIVE and you obviously can be wrong because you're wrong on ME so i trust me more watch watch this is where he freaks out lol | ||
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damdy!whisperer lol >< but that's not as rayn!rage inducing | ||
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WE WILL AS TOWN DESTROY THE MAFIOSOS! THE SCUMMY THING IS THIS!! TOWNIES SHOULD DO THIS!! yadayadayada this is ruxxar as town: -bouncyoffthewallyeverywhichwayyay!!!- >> given ruxx's way of playing mafia, can you guess why he doesn't like igrok? can you? can you? more seriously, rayn, you're assuming that ruxx will play this game "ideally" according to your rules. that's a poor assumption to make, especially when it comes to newbies | ||
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i like your reads damdy you should play for me so i can be lazy ^^ | ||
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ksc under review rayn, dude...i hope you don't mean what i think you mean -_- i can joke as either alignment. you need to learn control a bit i think | ||
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he's reading my mind today <3 ciao folks LURKERTINAENGAGINGLURKERBUTTON!!! | ||
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it reminds me of young frankenstein <3 but honestly i'm still deciding if i like you this game or not | ||
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On August 06 2015 09:03 CopCake wrote: I don't like when people makes captain obvious to me and I don't like how he is saying my first post is bad when I wrote another thing that was catching up etc but didn't get posted, I'm learning to use this site and asking for reads is a way for me to read people and it helps me with my reads in general since I will see things differently as most of you. It's kinda cheap and annoying what kelsier was doing. get over it ^^ | ||
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On August 06 2015 09:06 The Shining wrote: Damdred town. Clear clear thought processes and a willingness to revisit a question/topic he already discussed because Cake asked again makes it look like he has nothing to hide. I don't like Cop feeling it necessary to point out that he's a gem, as well as giving us his own chosen example of his scum meta. It shows he's very weary of his play, and how he looks at himself as scum, and trying to influence us in that direction instead of giving us the opportunity to do so on our own. Unless that is literally his only scumgame on this site. interesting could come from town and, and, and SHINING!! <3 ^^ you're alive! | ||
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nh...i dunnae about cake. i've played with her once in forum and she was mafia there...never seen her town play. inclined to just trust rayn on her, really, i think, at least insofar as i ever trust rayn lol ff and yama pending | ||
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On August 06 2015 17:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: i can't talk about that either yet. ![]() he thinks i'm town for bad reasons that don't actually make me town lol >< and, in fact, the same with scott. there are reasons to read scott town and this is not one of them like, rayn, i don't even mind you tunneling the shit out of me, but you need to drop this line of reasoning because it's objectively awful as for the ruxx/igrok thing eh there are two castes of players the caste that actually reads my posts closely enough to see that the content is everywhere, and that i'm doing things with it and the caste that just skims over the posts and dismisses them as fluff the second is much larger than the first igrok calls me an "active lurker" but people who understand my posts when i read them find that stupid. so i can see both sides there. to me, the biggest mark against igrok is all he's doing is going lynch lurkers lynch lurkers lynch lurkers here's some yummy coaching lynch lurkers some more things on how to play the game igrok isn't actually doing anything that isn't very easy for scum to do and i've yet to see him really start playing this game also, ftr, i agree with damdy on shining...i think that read of yours is wrong as well, rayn | ||
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On August 06 2015 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah then don't talk about ongoing games. Damdred. Why is shining town? Full elaboration would be nice. Also i am actully pretty sure cake is town. ye there's no way to productively pursue this conversation you done goofed man lol >< mmmm i'm not 100% on shining by any means but i liked his reads. they felt like a shining ^^ i don't want to lynch him today | ||
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On August 06 2015 21:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: So okay, let's not consider you town for "bad reasons" then rsoultin. So far you have - mocked me - mocked iGrok - said weird stuff. Which of Shining's reads are good in your opinion and why? I will help you out, he actually has one read. ;o; you know, rayn, you claiming that you actually want to play with me and talking about how smart i am and how excited you were to play with me... i don't think you actually understand how i play this game at all what's funny is i don't actually remember his reads at this point? i remember seeing the two in his little paragraph and going oh...that's actually insightful shining could be town this game -shrugs- i responded to it when he posted it. see for yourself | ||
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On August 06 2015 21:55 Rels wrote: It's super cool you two thinks Shining is town, but could you comment on the actual things rayn said ? Is it a good case or not ? honestly, rels...most things aren't good cases this early because they're based on very little i could break it apart like i did when i coached you, but if something had caught my eye as particularly damning i would have mentioned it? none of what he said was awful but it doesn't really make shining scum, is the thing, and i've played with shining more than he has, plus other players are more interesting, anyway | ||
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On August 06 2015 22:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not going to work with you if you mock me. I am not gonna get visibly mad but you, as everyone, knows i will get mad when people throw shit at me. So if you are going to work with me then please do, instead of calling me shit. You don't have an opinion on Edgar, you say the other lynch targets (Shining & Ruxxar) are town, for reasons you don't either remember or i think are not good. You want to lynch iGrok but you have no desire to tell me why what i just said about him and his motivation, and how it points more towards town than to mafia, is wrong. Like i have no idea what you are doing!?!?!? Except for being here. iGrok's case is not bad tbh. rayn, i'm not mocking you i was being playful lol >< ruxxy and damdy being town this game made me giddy i've seen ruxxar's scum games okay? as both alignments, i'm intimately familiar with his scum game. they're super constructed. he sounds like an inspirational poster lol >< and yes, kinda robotic. i was trying to say that him focusing on what he considers to be "constructed" posts makes all the sense in the world given how he plays scum, and him relaxing enough to play this way actually is town indicative what you said about igrok isn't wrong? i'm not voting for him, if you haven't noticed. it is a risk for scum to say he's going to lynch all lurkers, forcing him into a corner if one of his teammates is lurking. but you're assuming here that 1) none of his scummates are lurking/there won't be enough lurking town to still get a mislynch off 2) he even thought that far ahead let me try to be more articulate about what i don't like about him iGrok is simply focusing in on one thing (lurking) to the exclusion of everything else. beyond that all his posts are "helpful" posts trying to tell people how to play the game. he has no actual reads his case is just paraphrasing my posts and calling them all shit. in passing, okay. i post differently. he's also new to me. but if he's taking the time to read everything i'm saying, it's a little hard to believe he's daft enough to not see the points i'm making. i'm willing to entertain the thought that it's possible, though edgar's post was eh to me. another reason i'm not voting on iGrok, tbh. it looked very...stiff/unnatural when i first read it and ye the phrasing was awkward, i agree. i'm actually inclined to vote him over iGrok at the moment...but no i'm not townreading iGrok and i think it would be foolish to at this point | ||
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i spend the first bit of d1 threshing out my reads, and a lot of times that ends up being town-hunting and then rack-and-stacking the people i don't have a townread on to determine who i want to lynch. the only time this isn't the case is when i'm fairly certain someone is scum, but that's usually the exception on d1 i'm not a rayn ![]() | ||
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posts like that, give me the cheerleading but not really doing anything vibe maybe this is how you play town, iGrok, but if it is i can't say that i'm a fan | ||
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us, us, us vs. them, them, them line that he is reinforcing with this post he is hard-aligning with you, rayn, which if i were you would make me instantly wary, but i don't know how well you know this guy. and town will want to start cozying up to townreads, too, so it doesn't make him scum. doesn't keep the subtext from making me itch, though | ||
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rels is right you're doing nothing do something it's laughable that you think this is you "carrying town" | ||
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if your issue is you can't english and don't understand what's in my posts, there's little i can do to help with that until you bother to be more specific | ||
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i'm not an active lurker | ||
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he's saying my posting is useless, but he won't ask me what i mean on the posts he doesn't understand others are clearly finding my pushes and points, but he's not, yet he doesn't have the curiosity to see what he is that he's missing? or prove to them that they're wrong and he's right and my posts really are nothing but fluff? | ||
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On August 06 2015 23:08 Rels wrote: rsoul how sure are you on your ruxxar townread ? And is it 100% based on meta ? sure enough i'll actively try to obstruct a d1 lynch on him? it's...god how do i even begin to explain these things >< people here will call it meta. i usually call it tone in reality it's a hybrid of meta/tone and actually speaks to what i know of his personality and what mindset/thoughts i believe are natural for him. scum usually has a very hard time replicating the thought process they'd have as town this is the same way that i'm reading damdy, btw, but my track record on damdy is very, very good. i'm most confident of my damdy read as a result | ||
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On August 06 2015 23:20 iGrok wrote: To post this here, what you just said was: Obvious bullshit. that's because the reasons were already in the thread thus the "reading is a skill ^^" post if you don't understand what i was saying about them, say so. i'm not going to sit here and repeat myself half a dozen times because you can't be bothered to read speaking of which, did you find what i was talking about while paraphrasing my stuff, cause you should have lol >< | ||
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On August 06 2015 23:29 iGrok wrote: @Rels: I play more mechanically than most people. I'm not going to be nice and cutesy, and I'm going to take the by-GOD truth and run with it. Let me very clearly explain my initial actions: I see that the setup is Mountainous (all-vanilla). This implies that Day 1 has absolutely no information to base any cases off of. In non-mountainous games, at least one townie has information that others don't - their power role. This further implies that only Mafia have non-public information. Together, these mean that mafia can be found by analyzing their actions between other people, comparing how they act to how people with 0 information would likely act. In order for this strategy to work, all players need high activity, so that their interactions with each other can be analyzed. This implies that lurking is actively anti-town Day 1. This implies that pressuring lurkers is pro-town. This implies that a Lynch-All-Lurkers policy (which iirc TLMafia desperately needs anyways) is pro-town. A LAL policy will pressure lurkers into posting, or will eliminate them. Town lurkers who are posting will do one of two things: A) Come up with a read and reasoning, even if the reasoning is bad. This lets us establish relationships, and is good for town. B) Sheep someone else's reads because they are lazy. This is bad town play, and deserves a lynch. Scum lurkers who are posting will do one or more of the following four things: A) Come up with a read and reasoning, even if the reasoning is bad. This lets us establish relationships, and is good for town. B) Sheep someone else's reads because they are lazy. This is bad scum play, and deserves a lynch. C) Post fluff. Fluff is a post that contributes nothing to scumhunting/relationship building, or actively detracts from those. D) Lie about their activities outside of the game. A townie has no reason to mislead town about their activity levels. Tina sheeped Ruxxar's reads, posted fluff, and lied about her activity. Does it sound stupid? Petty? Then you need to play better. This is why I'm still voting on Tina, and I will continue to as long as the remaining lurkers wake up and start posting like good townies. There are other people who did some combination of things, but Tina was the biggest offender. Tina's probably 50% likely to be mafia, and that's the best possible read so far in the game. There isn't enough activity for good scumreads yet. We have 3 mislynches this game. I'm more than happy to use one early to kill a null-read lurker over a weak scumread, but right now Tina's the scummiest read assuming all the lurkers start posting. We'll get more information from the scummy player than the null one, and maybe we'll even hit a scum lurker. Again, if that sounds stupid/scummy/anti-town, play better. If anything, I've strayed too far from the Lynch-all-Lurkers plan because of Tina's reaction, and I need to go harder on the lurkers. ye you're awful we get it what are your reads on anyone else? | ||
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tunneling me is lovely and all, but people are not going to be content with just that one read you've managed to post quite a bit and still say nothing new this isn't helping with those of us uncertain about your alignment | ||
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not lynching: damdy ruxx rayn rels ksc shining yes those are in order of relative certainty preferred lynch currently is edgar | ||
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hey damdy, i think we got the wrong role pm at the start :/ join me in our qt or we could just talk about nks here so ruxx, what do you think about...hmmm rayn? rayn's always a good nk! \o/ cause it's totes brilliant to hard-align early as a scum team #epicplayz | ||
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i've invited you to several times do you disagree with my reads? do you not understand them? how am i supposed to read you if all you do is preach and try to lynch me? | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:10 iGrok wrote: When I try to talk to you, you evade, usually by calling my play bad/preachy. So that's pretty much a lost cause. @Rels: I'm going back over your stuff now. i've made several overtures toward you to get you to explain what it is about my posting that you think is "fluff" your behavior toward me makes me think that you don't actually care if you're wrong give me something to read you on. explain why you're scumreading me in a way that actually makes sense to me, because i know that my posting isn't fluff. i can't understand your perspective if you never attempt to explain it stop saying that it's a "lost cause" and actually engage with me what don't you understand? | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: I wanted to leave early today so I just got home. Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go. iGrok is not mafia. First; rsoultin: Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean? Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining. third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town? first, rayn, for people who actually care and value my reads (rels, for instance) relative certainty does mean something. and the second quote means i'm about equally certain on you and ruxx being town secondly, i already responded to the shining question? i can go back and look at the specific reads, but it was a gut reaction to what he said. i liked the thought process behind the reads and i thought he could be town for them | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: And for all of the people; If you think iGrok is mafia make a fucking case and vote for him then. Otherwise let him do what he does. There is no way for rsoultin (or anyone) to defend her against iGrok unless rsoultin does shit. If iGrok still acts the same and rsoultin clearly does shit on D1 then we lynch iGrok at the EoD1. It is simple. Rgiht now you all are making him, and yourself, running in circles. right now all i want is for him to explain his read. you're going to let me do that | ||
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On August 06 2015 09:08 rsoultin wrote: interesting could come from town and, and, and SHINING!! <3 ^^ you're alive! ye now i remember lol >< i had some of the same feelings on cake when she came into the game also, he's reading damdy town for the right reasons | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: to the second part; okay so what do you find good on these reads? - a townread on Damdred, for the same reasons basically everyone else townreads him? A good read? Points towards town? - a scumread on Cake, for the reasons ruxxar should be a scumread awell. Funnily enough he apparently has read ruxxar's posts before this but for some reason this is not a reason to scumread ruxxar (they both gave examples of how they would play as mafia - in fact ruxxar overplayed it way more than Cake did. Cake was bragging, ruxxar was like "look at me how town i am because i don't do this stuff as mafia"). why is this a good read? - he literally has no other reads it's not the same reasons on damdred? and iGrok? what do you call his LaL thing? by the same reasoning, why aren't you scumreading cake and igrok since you're scumreading ruxx for it? this isn't a good argument, rayn ye, there's a reason i'm least sure on him, but i still don't think he's the scummiest player in all honesty, i haven't been a fan of cake's play this game. i don't think she's doing anything productive either why are you townreading her? all you've said is you don't agree with people's scumreads, but i have a hard time seeing why anyone thinks she's actually town. can you explain it to me? | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes it is. i am not scumreading cake because of what i just explained. cake brags, ruxxar overplays it. but Cake is town. because of moonlogic in one post. ye i must've missed it and i still can't find it -_- what is moonlogic? eh, rayn... so you think that shining can't have some sort of "this is town-motivated and this isn't therefore they're different" reason, too? cause you have it. i have it. we may not agree on which players those line up on but clearly it's possible to see these things differently when compared to how the player is playing overall i think you're a bit too quick to decide "bad" is "scummy" and i'm not even sure i completely agree with you on what actually is bad lol >< i'm not going to play like you do because it doesn't work for me why must everyone play like you do, rayn? | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin i have to say one thing. when i have a read, please never anymore discredit my read based on something completely irrelevant to the read. i was contesting your reasoning because it was faulty, and demonstrating how it was faulty by giving you an example of your own play. that is not discrediting. please try not to be so sensitive i have no issue with you pressuring shining | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: first of all you have no idea if my reasoning is faulty or not and i have demonstrated why this is the case. second, i have explained why MY actions are not the same. agree/disagree? i disagree? you're assuming he's not doing it for the same reasons you are and are calling him scum for it? i have no issue with you pressuring him, as i said. i don't view cases as pressure, though, and maybe that's where the disconnect is; you saying someone is scum for x,y,z looks to me fundamentally different than you actually pressing him to elaborate | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: could everyone just post a list of three mafia? ruxxar shining edgar edgar top scum anyone not on the town list you mocked i don't care if we lynch or not today. that's the purpose for the list lol >< | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: omfg. I have the exact opposite conclusion he does and you say "you're assuming he's not doing it for the same reasons you are"..... Jesus christ... ![]() lol >< rayn. bear with me will you i'm saying you're assuming that he isn't looking at ruxxar's play and looking at cake's play and seeing the context of ruxxar's bouncy saying he thinks scum is more likely to be robotic differently than cake's...well let's be honest, blatant self-meta i see a difference between the two quite clearly so i see no problem with him not treating them the same? ruxxar's scum is stiff while demonstrably not being stiff is actually a lot closer to igrok's town should be active while demonstrably not being inactive you're looking at details and i'm looking at the overall reality that someone can find an action scummy for one person and not for another depending on the context | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: srsly i don't know why i have to make you play for some reason but you have six people in your scumlist. Let's say all the people you think are town are town. Why? Why don't you want to find mafia? Like i know you are proud of your reads like i am, do something about it and find which of the people you called scum are town then, and help us lynch mafia. i'm working on it -_- leave me alone rayn | ||
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On August 07 2015 00:57 iGrok wrote: @Rels, went back through your conversation with Rayne. Personally, TS feels like Town-Stupid to me. Ordinarily that's enough for me to be ok with lynching them, but he's mentioned enough people that, as long as he keeps posting, he's worth more alive than dead. The RX case basically makes itself. If I didn't think I'd get more information out of leaving him alive, I'd lynch him today. Those were my two takeaways, anything else you specifically wanted to know about? @rsoultin: As you apparently cannot read properly formed sentences, I'll let someone else summarize my initial case against you: Every time I pressure you, you come back to defend yourself even though you say you are too lazy/busy/afk. Only two types of players do this. Mafia and bad town. Either one is worth lynching. You're literally sheeping so hard that you're agreeing with contradictory points. this isn't explaining what your issue is and this isn't pressuring me -_- i still fail to see what the problem is. what is contradictory? | ||
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so i guess i'm down to who? cake edgar scott igrok ff yamato yeah of those i think edgar is most likely to flip scum i think cake is the very definition of igrok's active lurker thing and i'm still not seeing this town thing rayn's talking about speaking of lambs, wolves, cute dog, what? lol >< i'd forgotten that i was curious about that post, cake it's kinda like pulling teeth trying to get reads from her igrok is being...obstinate. i don't know if he behaves this obstinate as scum? but he's not being particularly helpful. i dunnae that i want to lynch him, but admittedly that's more crappy association with the guy voting him than based on his actual play scott i'm just gonna ignore for now. plain null yama...yama could be scum. he lurks as both alignments but his scum game is distinctly more lurky, plus ogi says he actually had the time last night as opposed to now where i think he's working, but i haven't actually popped into ts today and can't remember his work schedule exactly as for ff...it's more i'm just not sure. i've seen things i liked and didn't like. he can go with scott so to answer the rayn question (though i actually want to probe into these people more and they actually have to be here for me to do that) edgar/yama/cake in that order are my preferred lynches igrok could be scum or just...well yeah -_- and scott/ff i don't have enough info on | ||
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On August 07 2015 01:10 iGrok wrote: Ok, so you're saying, "Do you find it interesting that RS has the same read of TS as you?" I don't really, because RS's reads seem to be mostly sheeped off other people. which ones? some of them i'm pretty certain i made first, and regardless, how does it make me scum to have the same reads as others? is my reasoning the same as theirs? | ||
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On August 07 2015 01:19 CopCake wrote: Hey rsoultin, you keep saying I am mafia and shit. Why? As in, elaborate, why am I mafia? It seems I'm going to fight you. lol i have no reason to townread you. it's not the same thing i don't recall you contributing anything this game really other than reads on the two you played with before which (i think?) you were asked for in the first place while complaining that you hadn't played with anyone else you've only played with me when you were scum and i barely had time to play anyway lol >< anyway, can you explain the lambs wolf dog thing? | ||
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On August 07 2015 01:35 CopCake wrote: Lambs = town Wolves = mafia Rsoultin = odd lamb or dog is like, you are just posting funny things, is what i meant :p you are all over the place. Also you are playing different, I guess is because you know people here and feel more comfortable? but all your posts are pro town so okay lol you can join my not lynch list for today ^^ but actually not so much for this post (i kinda figured it was a really oddly stated null read >>) but for the one you just made on igrok and the three...that and i kinda understand the approach now that you explained it yup ^^ | ||
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grok why do you not answer me -_- you're talking around me | ||
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On August 07 2015 01:53 iGrok wrote: I don't need any more information from you today. Well, I do, I just don't expect to get any. And before you ask why, ye, reading is a skill ^^ ask i'll work with you ^^ see, i can be nice? | ||
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hey rayn...do you really think igrok is going about his scumread correctly? i can't read him this way -_- | ||
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On August 07 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like rsoultin in this case i think you are enabling him if he is mafia, and you are giving him wrong signals if he is town. Back off for a while, and we'll see what he says. lol >< he's just not even working with me when i've been trying to get him to since last night but okay if you really think that my behavior (which has been fairly reasonable imo all things considered) is enough to justify his lack of play, then i can let it go for a little bit | ||
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On August 07 2015 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: he thinks you are mafia. why should he work with you? i never work with people i am sure are mafia. he is saying you are not doing shit. It was imo reasonable earlier. Now you two are in a "no you" contest. I suggest you both let it go, if either of you think the other one is mafia by the eod then it is a different story. Right now discussing it goes nowhere. for the record your vote on Edgar was really townie. Thank you. ![]() edgar is my top scumread you goof lol >< don't thank me. it's called playing the game i'm just discussing other reads now, but i don't have to discuss grok for awhile hrum | ||
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On August 07 2015 02:22 The Shining wrote: Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts. ye it's meta i think it's solid, though. for examples of what scum ruxx looks like, there's himalayas and gaiden. in himalayas i caught him before anyone else did. in gaiden we were scum together. and before that i coached him i feel i've got a fairly strong grasp on his thought process? don't really blame people for not just blindly trusting that, though. if you want to look at the games, be my guest. the things that get me is how constructed his posts were...he didn't engage with people (until after i called him out on it) in himalayas and still struggled a bit with the engagement thing in gaiden though had gotten a lot better at it but overall there was just this we are town! town members should do this! we as town should behave in such and such a way and so and so is not therefore he is bad or scum let's lynch! which is not what i see here so...ye, take that as you may. i think it would be beneficial to read those two games though to get where damdy and i are coming from. we were both in both those games | ||
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On August 07 2015 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: or rsoultin, if you do not think ruxxar is mafia then who is? i do not accept scott as an answer. you have my list? i don't really have scumreads outside of edgar/yama and even yama is more null-leaning-scum cause he's pulled this shit as town, too, just being a lazy ass lol >< i've removed cake from it for the time being (i liked her post but lol...not really that familiar with her) scott...i really just don't think your approach there is very solid for reasons i won't go into on top of the simple fact that posting that in gen is like...super easy? but i can agree to not lynching him d1, more because he's shown some level of interest at least ff...i'm not sure why he's being townread? some of his posts i've liked and some i haven't, as i said...all in all it hasn't met my threshold for him yet | ||
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On August 07 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: no in fact she caught bugs, not you. i in fact caught him, rayn please don't undermine me | ||
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On August 07 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to. If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it. i'm fine with you explaining it? he could be playing us...he's actually a good player from what i've seen lol but i don't think he is? what makes you think he is? just because he townread us quick? | ||
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On August 07 2015 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: it was his first scumgame, and don't even try to tell me that bugs read noone else had was not influencial to that. ![]() lol true it's easier to see scum in players who replaced players you were already scumreading >> or at least suspecting to be fair i kept waffling on bugs but i caught him because he said it was easier to not engage with the thread as scum and just post analysis in his newbie post game...and that's exactly what he started doing as soon as he replaced in. i knew he hadn't played scum before. even felt bad about the read a little cause...he completely goofed and gave himself away there but look at ruxx's posting toward the end of the game with hf...i know you're not really a tonereader but the tone there is very forced and he was also pretty forced in gaiden | ||
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On August 07 2015 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: no, because he is not "being stupid or irrational or whatever". he is ACTING like he is. ??? okay, prove it? | ||
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eh ye well i get your point of view...just think we're gonna have to agree to disagree at this point lol >< i understand you think the tone is easy to replicate, too, but i don't necessarily agree with that even if i can see why you'd think so | ||
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On August 07 2015 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: If i am right here you should never ever do tonereads anymore. ![]() but then i wouldn't be able to godread damdy even when he can't play much! lol >< no deal that said, i'm probably right anyway and it doesn't even matter ^^ if you want to bet me something for lolz we can do that...maybe another drunk "piano man" session? ![]() | ||
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##vote EdgarAllenPoE and a certain host better double-check cause this hasn't necessarily been working well for everyone -_- | ||
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On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters. I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse. ##vote iGrok I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. this is a general sheeple post yes i agree with rayn that it's awkward wording, "impasse" but you vote on grok why do you single me out, since we're asking why questions today? you managed to sheeple the opinion of ruxx who you're also wary of, didn't present a read on me, cited reasons: coatchingesque <- my read, and bad case <- ruxx's read...but didn't go into how that made him scum? hint: bad cases don't make people scum how as his case bad? what was coatchingesque and how does that make him scum? and you also incorporated two excuses into your one and only post 1. don't blame you for being awful cause no filters 2. not going to be active | ||
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it's okies. if he really thought we were "dumb" he'd ignore us -pokes at a rayn- and not constantly try to read us by how intelligent we're playing, for that matter lol | ||
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On August 07 2015 04:18 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: None of that answers my question rsoultin. Please respond. i did. what don't you understand? | ||
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to be clear, i described all the things i didn't like about your post and asked you questions that you have yet to answer your assumption that just because you point out things i already said should make me townread you is faulty at best if there's something you don't understand, i'll answer, but i already have responded to your question lol >< | ||
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On August 07 2015 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##unvote ##vote ruxxar rsoultin i assure you he is mafia. i'm okay with being wrong d1? i'm sure if he's really mafia it'll become clear to me too before like...i die lol >< edgar is prob mafia. let's kill him ![]() | ||
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On August 07 2015 04:51 CopCake wrote: I disagree with kelsier, he is like 80% scum, he is tunneling me for like shitty reasons instead of trying to find scum. It's like, look this is some new person that is scum because she doesn't do shit or knows how to do shit and her entry post is bad and stuff. ksc is town the way you guys do things is different from how we do things c'est la vie | ||
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On August 07 2015 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: it is the fact that when i die on N1 noone is gonna say "hey ruxxar is mafia". rayn, if you trust i'm town and you trust damdy is town, trust us to be able to reevaluate a game; we're not scrubs also... lol@yama now what are your actual reads? lol >< | ||
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On August 07 2015 05:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: i generally do not trust people. i do trust me in my reads. i think you both are wrong. and i think you're wrong? so um...yeah lol >< | ||
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On August 07 2015 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: did you read what i wrote about ruxxar? i've been reading all your posts about ruxxar, rayn -_- | ||
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On August 07 2015 07:38 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: I applaud you for being able to summarise my post with a longer word count than the original post but this does not answer my question in the slightest and I honestly do not know how you think it does. If you town read ruxxar and the first post I made in this game is sheeping both your town read's reasons and your own then how do I end up as your top scum read. Furthermore, you cite that I put inactivity excuses into my "one and only post" but then that entirely validates the excuse when it's my only post, yet, you treat Yamato who actually has no excuses for being afk and in fact said he'd play as a "meh, dunno he's probably at work" read. The difference between those two reads in the original post I quoted is quite astonishing. okay, let's try this again how is igrok's case bad? what was "coatchingesque" and how does that make him scum? and, again...i love repeating myself...just because you parrot ruxxy and myself doesn't give you a free town pass. it means you can parrot. whoopdeedoo yamato is right there with you in my preferred lynch club answer the questions | ||
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i do hate that for whatever reason people absolutely refuse to talk straight with me this game am i speaking swahili again, damdy? | ||
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i don't think that's what he meant, ruxx, but maybe he should answer that also...the plunge was taken beware the girl with filters ![]() | ||
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not ready to stop poking at edgar yet talk to me more about scott? he's one of the few players i've played with before that i've never really gotten a good feel for | ||
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but yeah...i'm not concerned about that vote unless he demonstrates it's serious? if yama's scum it's for not playing at all despite having the time to, not the vote on me | ||
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i kinda halfway remember him being sorta actually playing in gaiden but i don't remember clearly tbh, damdy | ||
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On August 07 2015 09:05 CopCake wrote: I have always seen rsoultin as an easy lynch tbf, at least she was the first game i played with her. Those who have league on NA add me: cakeleesi Yamato, edgar are scum btw. lol i'm not an easy lynch in my world ^^ on your site i was easy pickings because no one knew me, you all play differently, i had no time and you and rayn were scum -_- | ||
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mostly cause rayn kept yelling she's better than this! she's better than this! in their secret skype circle jerk that had been infiltrated by two scum lol >< | ||
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On August 07 2015 10:58 yamato77 wrote: My Thoughts on Mountainous Setups In another time, my best contributions in any given game were my analyses of the setup and the best way to play such a setup. Many of these posts went ignored. This one probably will too, but hey, I feel like writing it. Mountainous setups present a unique challenge for town. Unlike many other setups, town has no roles to fall back on should they play horribly. Therefor, it is important every day to take the lynch as seriously as possible, using it in the best possible way to continue to figure out the game. How is this different from the typical mini mafia game, you ask? I'll be glad to answer. In the average game, town wastes at least one lynch killing a player who has disrupted the game by being an idiot. In this game, this sort of lynch is really, really bad because the town gains little information, as these players are often town and often incredibly misguided in everything they are saying. It is imperative, then, that these ragey sort of player be kept at bay and summarily ignored if they go off the handle in a genuinely town way (*cough* rayn *cough*) One advantage of this setup having no roles is that none of you noobs can claim like retards and fuck up the game! :D So at least in that regard, town has a safeguard against fucking itself over, hahaha. I would expect mafia to be forced to be relatively active in a setup like this as being lurky and lazy is just going to make them too easy to single out. Outside of a particular meta-activity read on a player, I'd generally be wary to just go "lurker = scum" given that many town players are quite lost when they don't have informative roles and don't understand how to play D1. I'll give my thoughts on the game by skimming for opening posts I find interesting, and looking at player interactions and reactions that feel forced or contrived. -squints at- so much wisdom all hail yama play now plzthx ^^ | ||
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On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: I don't know if there is somehow a breakdown in English which you quite clearly can read but how does any of that answer my question at all? You have simply repeated questions towards me that are irrelevant since you and ruxxar are the people I was "parroting". I will make this as plain and simple as I can for you. Since my post is just a parrot of YOUR points and your town read's points, why am I your top mafia read? Apparently you think having the same reads and sheeping does not make people mafia so why is it different for me? Furthermore, why am I the top of your scum reads when all I've done is parrot you but Yamato isn't when you say he's playing exactly like his mafia meta? There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon. ... you are basically asserting two things: 1. mafia cannot use other people's reasons that they've read in the thread to make reads - do i really have to explain how this isn't true? 2. i should townread anyone who has the same opinions i do - uhhhh, no. i can be wrong. mafia can buss your line of thinking is bad. your push/argumentation in this direction is irrelevant, because you keep repeating that i should for whatever reason not be scumreading you based on these two false! assertions i did not spell it out because i generally assume (especially given the pretty, long words you've been using) that people aren't morons until proven otherwise. if you're halfway intelligent you should already get what i'm saying i do not find it townie for someone's one and only post to express that much uncertainty while blatantly sheeping not just a read but the exact reasons for a read you proceeded to do it again with your pretty "false dichotomies" bit, which focused in on rayn's questioning of igrok's reasoning the next time i have seen nothing original from you except for the assertions toward me that i highlighted above where you keep insisting that i should be townreading you and somehow miss that yamato is my second preferred lynch...you are acting like i'm townreading him lol >< which is clearly not the case i asked you the questions because you parroted ruxxar and myself and i want you to explain: 1. why the case that you said was bad is bad 2. what exactly he said was "coatchingesque" and why that makes him scum because i want to see if you actually believe these things. i want to know your thought process when you made these blanket statements to see if they're anything but just blatant plagiarism it's amazing that you don't understand what the problem is and that you keep dodging something this simple to answer. you said the words. why can't you elaborate? | ||
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the only actual original thought i've seen that isn't blatantly stealing others' ideas is a horribly fallacious assertion that tina should townread anyone who agrees with her, which is a ridiculously stupid point to not only bring up but continuously push answer why you're saying what you said so i can judge whether any part of those reads were made independent of other players posting in the thread ^^ | ||
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On August 07 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: okay now i gtg. see you guys on sunday and occasionally before lynch edgar, or yamato. ye i'm still onboard with this @ruxx what exactly is good about edgar's posting? | ||
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i have a hard time...how to phrase this? words like "dichotomy", "impasse", "applaud", "cite", "validate", "appease", "formulaic" i see words like this and they make me think that either he is quite intelligent but still drawing conclusions that should be obviously awful to people of the intelligence he's trying to project or he's prettying up his posts to seem more reasonable by using words like these there's a chance he's town trying to play up his intelligence by using big words, but why? what's he actually saying or pushing with it? dunnae it makes me itchy. the pieces don't match. not sure how to explain this any better @.@ | ||
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On August 08 2015 00:31 ruXxar wrote: I liked his rebuttal against rsoultin because it makes sense. rsoultin shouldn't try to lynch people that agree with her opinion. If she's confident in her ability to find scum, then she shouldnt want to lynch those that agree with her because they're helping her push through her lynches. So what if it's a bus? a dead mafia is a dead mafia, bus or no bus. ... this does not make sense ruxx -_- have you ever as scum agreed with another player? even on a scumread on your teammate? we both know you have not to mention i've made it clear i'm not sure that grok is scum...his obstinance puzzles me. it's so bad i'm not sure scum would even hold on to it this long -_- | ||
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On August 08 2015 00:34 ruXxar wrote: he's a smurf. does his style remind you of someone you know? dichotomy is not a common word and i know i've seen it somewhere before, but i can't place who i'm not terribly interested in smurf hunting...i tend to figure out smurfs just by playing with them because i'm a tonereader anyway but it's not something i go out of my way to uncover | ||
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On August 08 2015 00:47 ruXxar wrote: Mm, yeah that's where my doubts come in, because I don't feel like you were actually hard scum-reading igrok, so edgars argument falls a bit apart i suppose? It's like he agreed with your opinion, but you werent pushing for an igrok lynch so it doesn't really work out in his favor too much. i thought he was weird and i was trying to clear up any miscommunication if there was any. i didn't like his approach. and i agree with damdy that his subsequent poofedness (lol yay |o/ for made up words ^^) doesn't look good at all given his lal policy thingamajig but i never even voted him and people paying attention would notice how i kept trying to get him to talk to me or talk about other reads so i could get a read on him -shrugs- even if i was balls to the wall lynch igrok, though, that doesn't make his argument good. i might ignore him for the day phase as you said, but it wouldn't make me townread him by any stretch lol >< | ||
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he said what we said then he came back and said what rayn said i dare you to find an original thought in his posts ^^ | ||
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On August 08 2015 00:57 Damdred wrote: Idk something just feels off to me I guess but I can't quantify it off about what damdy? | ||
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tbf as i said, the vote was related to a joke? the rest i take no issue with | ||
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i already mentioned that i said in ts before this game started that no one lynches me d1 lol >< he said he accepted the challenge...and made reference to it in the post where he voted me | ||
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On August 07 2015 09:05 rsoultin wrote: eh, yama was referencing a joke where i challenged him to lynch me d1 lol...i said that no one lynches me d1 (rayn excepted of course >> fuck rayn) but yeah...i'm not concerned about that vote unless he demonstrates it's serious? if yama's scum it's for not playing at all despite having the time to, not the vote on me why should i be concerned about the vote, ruxx? it's nai is there some reason you take issue with me saying i think yama's scum but don't care about the vote? | ||
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we both think he's scum for almost identical reasons and this argument is pointless if you want me to change my vote, convince me (or enough other people) that edgar could be town. i'm assuming that's the real purpose behind your aggression xP | ||
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damdy, try to explain your gut to me? i know it might be hard but i'll probably get it if you try ^ in all honesty, damdy being unsure does give me pause i may end up shifting to yama for that reason alone, but yeah...really do want to get him to try to articulate it for me, cause i'm having trouble seeing town in edgar | ||
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On August 08 2015 01:56 Rels wrote: Simple tl search suggests Marv or vivax. For the "I've read dichotomy recently", GB used it in an answer to you in hts game. gb used it o.0 lol well that's definitely not a gb smurf it's not marv i don't think could be viva but if it's viva that's actually support for his being scum, not evidence against ruxx...none of that really makes him town 1. agreeing with you while suspecting you is eh 2. i push back as mafia when being scumread 3. if you don't notice the difference between sandwiching his vote between two excuses and disappearing...and me saying i'm not gonna play and doing it anyway, i don't know what to say, ruxx 4. flatout wrong. i'd made it well before he ever posted 5. he explained rayn's questioning ye that's not a town case the lack of push back from anyone i find questionable, though, makes me feel like the edgar lynch may be too easy. is that what you're referring to, damdy? you can blame me for last night, kyle, but you can't blame me for the whole day phase ^^ | ||
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i know your angle and your desire; you don't need to keep screaming it lol >< nh reads yama andale | ||
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his read is essentially parroting - mine - ruxx's - rayn's and then...ye he apparently has no other reads | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:37 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: This post is also an extremely flagrant attempt to discredit what my original post said completely. At no point did I not know what to think. I was having an external monologue to display what I thought about the Ruxxar and iGroK predicament and to display my cursory attempts at a brief read through of the thread (It is not, as Rels said, "A post that took a long time to think of"). Then there is this post: + Show Spoiler + On August 07 2015 22:24 rsoultin wrote: ... you are basically asserting two things: 1. mafia cannot use other people's reasons that they've read in the thread to make reads - do i really have to explain how this isn't true? 2. i should townread anyone who has the same opinions i do - uhhhh, no. i can be wrong. mafia can buss your line of thinking is bad. your push/argumentation in this direction is irrelevant, because you keep repeating that i should for whatever reason not be scumreading you based on these two false! assertions i did not spell it out because i generally assume (especially given the pretty, long words you've been using) that people aren't morons until proven otherwise. if you're halfway intelligent you should already get what i'm saying i do not find it townie for someone's one and only post to express that much uncertainty while blatantly sheeping not just a read but the exact reasons for a read you proceeded to do it again with your pretty "false dichotomies" bit, which focused in on rayn's questioning of igrok's reasoning the next time i have seen nothing original from you except for the assertions toward me that i highlighted above where you keep insisting that i should be townreading you and somehow miss that yamato is my second preferred lynch...you are acting like i'm townreading him lol >< which is clearly not the case i asked you the questions because you parroted ruxxar and myself and i want you to explain: 1. why the case that you said was bad is bad 2. what exactly he said was "coatchingesque" and why that makes him scum because i want to see if you actually believe these things. i want to know your thought process when you made these blanket statements to see if they're anything but just blatant plagiarism it's amazing that you don't understand what the problem is and that you keep dodging something this simple to answer. you said the words. why can't you elaborate? I never mentioned that mafia could not do those things, that is a fallacy that I pointed out from YOUR own thinking here: Your post is extremely poignant to this situation because: A) You use this argument for your own defence. B) You then use this same logical fallacy to paint my posting in a negative light to your own benefit. Your second point is extremely incongruous with what a town thought process should be. In most cases people that are using your own reads and acknowledging those points are not their own are overwhelmingly likely to be town. Furthermore, in no instance have you EVER elaborated (still after my repeated questioning) why I am your top scum read. Your second point references my qualm but instead of stating why you actually think I am mafia you try and bypass the whole quesion, yet again. You state that mafia "can" bus but how does this relate to why I am mafia in the slightest? You also state that I must be intelligent because of X, Y, Z but then ask me entirely redundant questions which, if you were town, would absolutely know would lead nowhere but a circular argument. What do you expect me to answer because it would be more than simple to just find where you mention "cheerleading" and "coaching" and just reference those points to appease you. If you are going to say that your mafia read is in that post where you mention my "uncertainty" can you show me where exactly I am uncertain of anything in the slightest? That is also, just like Raynpelikoneet, a gross misrepresentation of my post. I thought they were both capable of being mafia and any uncertainty was purely to hedge bets and vote for the "most" mafiaesque player. To close this piece, I think what you have been doing (I'm not particularly sure you have actually done anything) is leading the town nowhere when normally I think you would be much more forward in getting scum reads out of the active people instead of falling back to a Yamato and myself scum team read, ESPECIALLY when you have TL+ and have access to filters. I think you are likely mafia too. excuse you i have actual fucking reads and original thoughts. you do not. we're not comparable, and trying to intimate that we are is ludicrous wham bam thank you ma'am -drops mic- | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:41 CopCake wrote: Yamatto i go by facts but ok, fair enough with your answer, i voted you yesterday because you were like "omg im going to post tons" but you didn't gave shit nor posted at all, and rayn said you hate to be mafia and you avoid posting when you rol that. tbf we did start watching a movie right after he said that and he maaaaay have been drunk and i maaaay have distracted him for a bit >> lol | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:42 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: When did I mention that we were comparable in this post? I hold you to the metric that you display in a multitude of games and I feel that you are not achieving this metric, especially with this advantage that you have. Yes, you have reads but does that answer anything I wrote in my post at all? No, it does not. seriously? my scumread is you don't have any reads of your own you tried to say it was because you were sheeping others' reads. there is a world of difference between having similar reads, even sheeping them, and flatout doing nothing BUT sheeping others' reads. we're not comparable and the other bit is just shit if i read someone mafia i pursue it. doesn't fucking matter how "active" they are | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:49 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: Quite simply I am used to him making cases, making a lot of posts that probe into everything and also trying to get to the bottom of things as town. Here I have seen random defences of people, only stances when other people make posts and a lack of drive. Like I said, aloof. nh, could be he's had his moments but they've been less frequent than i'd usually expect | ||
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this and the scott case, though, say otherwise lol >< i don't think anyone's really been pushing scott but him? damdy mentioned him but it was a read rather than a case | ||
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ksc is a sarcastic poopy face who can't help himself <3 he makes me laugh when he's town | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:58 KelsierSC wrote: I still can't remember what I forgot well whyever not?!?! we all remember what we forgot, scum! ##vote edgar why are you certain igrok is town, yama? i get thinking this doesn't make him scum per se, but not the hard townread | ||
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well, kyle there's this thing called ew mafia ruxx posting town rally ideal townie blah de blah sounds like a politician posts and then this thing called town ruxx posting like a jumping bean ^ play matches town ruxx | ||
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fuck who is edgar i feel like i should know and if i knew i could suss this out better >< | ||
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i think edgar is artanis. what does that mean to you vets who have posted with him more? -throws things at yama, damdy- | ||
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it doesn't seem like marv/viva either fuck it who is it damdy you're not being ignored? | ||
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mmmm rayn was really sure scott was town but i know why and i think the reason is kinda awful | ||
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fuck it. he sounds too familiar and until i can place him it's gonna bug me | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:33 ruXxar wrote: Why doesn't edgar put any emotion into his posts He's like a fucking mechanical robot. lol no shit and that's what sounds kinda familiar :/ | ||
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this'll do if we're wrong rayn can just throw a fit at me later lolol >< | ||
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like i feel that i should know who eap is but i can't put a finger on it it's someone who posts with that hyper formality anyway though cause that's where the itch is not truffle...kinda like truffle blah :/ | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:41 yamato77 wrote: I don't know why people are not lynching edgar...? itches yamato, itches i'm not convinced he's not scum but the itch must be satisfied! \o/ and there isn't time to do that right now lol >< | ||
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no it doesn't | ||
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honestly rels i'm not sure >< lol i almost want to switch to grok i'm being all waffly | ||
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##unvote ##vote EdgarAllanPoE yolo! \o/ | ||
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yes, ruxxy, yes! | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:58 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: And with my flip I hope you all read my big post on why rsoultin is mafia. I really really hope you do this. lol still not mafia, even if i'm wrong | ||
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are you serious right now? op says 1500 CDT | ||
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On August 06 2015 04:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Day 1: Slam crashed while driving on I-10 to LA and the road collapsed. Role PMs and stuff should be out. If not, PM me and I'll send you it. You have to vote. -_- i'm done posting till hosts | ||
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bad reason to think excuse was true and it's d1 -done waiting on slam to pretend to actually host this game- | ||
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ye i'm so confirmed scum i have a town role pm #awesomehoststrats | ||
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On August 08 2015 07:19 Damdred wrote: I'm not trying to call you scum rs I'm trying to get you to tell,me why you worked against your hardest town reads basically. I still think your town though i told you? y'all were the ones who made me waffle in the first place...you more than ruxx...and then i ended up defaulting back to edgar like...eh the thought process was essentially...edgar reminded me of someone and i wanted to scratch that itch before lynching him, plus you thought something was off with the lynch but i had reason to believe scott's excuse might be real and it's d1 so there's time for him to pick up...plus now rayn's dma thing is stronger but uh...it's not like a get out of jail free card i asked about igrok but i didn't think i could get enough votes on him in time so ye, defaulted back to edgar :/ who i now kinda thing is bh meh | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:55 rsoultin wrote: mmm honestly rels i'm not sure >< lol i almost want to switch to grok i'm being all waffly except it's not? this was 5 mins before EoD lol >< three votes isn't enough, ruxx | ||
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On August 07 2015 04:30 iGrok wrote: I didn't call you horrible, I called your logic horrible. I try to refrain from personal attacks, but the amount of bullshit in this game is making it difficult to do that. On August 08 2015 05:28 iGrok wrote: STOP POSTING IN BLUE YOU FUCKING JACKASS, YOU AREN'T A MOD. On August 08 2015 06:22 iGrok wrote: Ok, I'm pretty pissed about how this turned out. First of all, you didn't lynch confirmed scum RS. Second, you let RX lead you into lynching EAP by forcing a split between me, YM, and EAP. Third, you didn't lynch me even though I went AFK for a long time. Fourth, EAP pulled some serious bullshit and I'll be pushing for his player's ban for a loooong time. Fifth, Alakaslam isn't acting like a host. I'll be around for 15 minutes, then I'm leaving for FNM. Anything you want to know, ask me. I've caught up on the thread. so he shows up right at EoD after doing nothing for over 24 hours, then complains about how everyone else handled the lynch while he was awol? and you have the gall to say we're not lynching igrok like he's done anything townie, yama? are you fucking high? | ||
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On August 08 2015 07:37 ruXxar wrote: Sigh, I'm confused rs. I don't think you're scum, but I'm really sad you didn't trust me about edgar. It still hurts. ??? i trusted you believed he was town, ruxxy. i don't know what else to tell you there | ||
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didn't think we'd get enough votes on igrok, wanted to give scott more time, thought edgar could be scum. what more is there to say? | ||
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dunnae bout scott...there's a chance he could be town nh i dunnae really i'm gonna have to reread in all honesty i liked some things from yama but this defense of igrok i do not understand | ||
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On August 08 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: You all are worse i have ever been. Edgar please never post to this for um agin or i will kick you in the head irl. I will fucking huntnyou down and do it. Peace. Not gonna play this shit anymore. I was town. seriously? | ||
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On August 08 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote: If you trusted me you wouldn't have voted for him. i said i trusted that you thought he was town, ruxx. trusting that you think something and trusting that you're right, especially when it's clear you really want to get igrok lynched (and you waffled quite a bit besides, boyo) is not the same thing? are you planning on yelling at me forever? :/ | ||
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why would you make this game more of a mess than it already is? -_- | ||
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ye i'm out i'll do things my way, damdy, you do things yours, we'll see where we line up? out, folks | ||
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i just have better self-control than most when odd things happen...though i don't know that it matters anymore cause so many people have spewed themselves town either in reaction to hf or through this little exercise here that the game is void anyway honestly, hf...rules and things aside (and i know i've shown myself to be a big proponent of the spirit of the law over the word of the law) you injected something in the game that people didn't know how to react to and caused several to give their alignments away before the flip could be verified as official, which is a modkillable offense in any game i'm really sorry if my play contributed to this in any way ^^; i've been trying quite hard to be less abrasive in general in my games as either alignment slam...slam the man, i <3 you, but yeah that giant post, man. if you're gonna do that just end the game? how you handled things was also insanely confusing and while i love your "persona" and you know i do, it didn't help when everything else was already so confused agreed that rayn's post is never really appropriate, though i understand why he reacted that way things got heated, everything snowballed, some key people contributed to an overall jumble of confusion can we all be friends now? ^^;;;;; | ||
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<3 xata it definitely had nothing to do with the votes! that's a cool tool...allowing for misspellings and nicknames would be helpful but honestly people should be able to manage it as it is now lol >< we're just fail!bots \o/ | ||
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but who knows if i'd keep those reads or not; i'm so waffly lol -stretches- if grok or hf want to talk to me i welcome it? i feel like i insulted y'all and as i said i thought i was being pretty good for me...no hard feelings i hope :/ | ||
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On August 09 2015 01:32 Rels wrote: ![]() lol i'm sorry that our first opportunity to play together, and my first opportunity to play together with ruxx as town, went this south ^^ we have to do it again sometime you're fun to play with | ||
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On August 09 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well played cake. -jumps on rayn- i am revoking your "can read rsoul" card officially today ![]() y'alright? | ||
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moral of the story: don't post after deadline everyone's happy ^^ bueno, damdy damdy damdy come entertain me ^^ | ||
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On August 09 2015 03:32 MoosyDoosy wrote: You did g00d. If anything else I've learned from the way you managed to defuse early arguments and avoid townie mudfights throughout Day 1. The only problem was that your play for all of Day 1 was centered around tone reads and then you sheeped that pretty bad Edgar case which someone posted (I forgot who tho). The case was one of those "contradiction cases" which are really just NAI and make for easy mislynches. I also understand it's difficult to nail something on someone D1 besides tone reads, but there were far better tone reads than Edgar imo like yamato and ruXxar. As a note ruXxar, you might want to calm down a bit with trying to stress your breezy tone. In this game I could tell it was rather forced and that it wasn't a really genuine reaction like in our second Newbie game together. -shrugs- Otherwise your play was okay although I could see the seeds of tunneling when you started focusing on scott, yamato, etc. eh hf and i are allergic to each other right now lol after gaiden in all honesty if i'd known it was him i might not have taken as much issue with his hyper focus...it's natural to be suspicious of someone who just rolled scum against you but i didn't know it was him so it was just strange >< | ||
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if you couldn't understand the reads, you should have asked. i said this multiple times and even asked you multiple times what you didn't understand. you insisted on calling my posts fluff and saying that you couldn't work with me i get that you have an ego. i have one, too. but notice the difference between us? i kept talking to people and listening to them (maybe not agreeing but at least entertaining their opinion). i kept trying to get you to interact with me even though, from my perspective, you calling all my posts crap was at least as obnoxious if not more than anything i said to you. i was town. i was doing something productive with my posts, even if you didn't understand them. if i'd allowed myself to just be offended and tunneled like you, i would have gotten nothing done such is life. there's a reason so many were scumreading you, and a big part of it is you went completely tunnel vision, listened to no one, and didn't give other reads on people you think you caught me in a "trap" but you weren't paying attention. i said i was going to be lazy and not post unless i was bored. there is no lie there -shrugs- i wasn't claiming i didn't have the time. i wasn't trying to "hide" if you want me to explain my methods or any of my posts, i'm still willing to. i'm actually a halfway decent player lol >< | ||
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those who know me would not find it strange at all really, the only real critique i have about your play...wrong is wrong we were all pretty wrong to varying degrees after all...is to approach the game with an open mind and engage more. you made up your mind really early and focused on only one thing -shrugs- without being willing to even probe for more information which i think was your main mistake really, apart from not really doing anything but tunneling me all day phase ^^ anywho! \o/ game is over. onward! | ||
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On August 06 2015 07:23 rsoultin wrote: not really you acting townie, probing he acting...not angry grr hate stupid, super sharp sarcasm ksc of win who makes me laugh i'd just posted this igrok granted, i get it's not "perfect" english, but i'd literally just posted it | ||
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but you were already in the "i'm not going to talk to rsoul" stage at that point lol >< | ||
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my ksc read actually started earlier than that, but ye that was the first rayn mention. my bad | ||
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On August 09 2015 04:54 iGrok wrote: You posted that after I asked my question. Like, I asked you a question, you answered by talking to someone else, and then quoted my question and essentially called me dumb for asking the question to begin with because you had already answered it. If I was in the "not gonna talk to RS mode", I wouldn't have asked you the question to begin with, nor asked you for clarity on what you meant by "talk about igrok/ksc" (which you never commented on either). oh, yeah, that's why i said reading is a skill you two were the ones i'd mentioned suspicions of and i was trying to get conversation going -shrugs- | ||
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do you get my point? i'm sorry that i was dismissive but lol...that doesn't really make anyone scum, you know? next time just ask what my posts mean -shrugs- | ||
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i make people angry i made rayn angry i made igrok angry i made hf angry part of it is people don't realize when i'm just being playful and part of it is i don't police myself. i think i'm clearer when i speak than i am, and players like damdred kind of enable me...damdred and ruxxar lol ><...because they understand me just fine so i feel like my posts are more comprehensible than perhaps they are i get frustrated and waspish easily when people don't understand. it's a personality flaw and angry people don't tend to think rationally. i don't blame igrok. objectively, if he'd done more than tunneled me and instructed everyone else how to play, he would have had an easier time getting townread. that's really the only takeaway here i can't promise i'll change unless i stop stream-of-consciousness and prod-based posting. but i'm a tonereader on d1 when there's not a lot of information yet and believe it or not, those prods and the playfulness is how i get my reads on the players i know. it's a method that works for me. sorry for the trouble it caused! | ||
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On August 09 2015 05:09 iGrok wrote: Except that I did ask you to elaborate, and all I got was that insult. I posted my case on you at least once, maybe twice before I started ignoring you, because it's a really short case. I set a trap, you got caught in it, that makes you scummy and a good D1 lynch. When literally rayne was the only person who recognized the trap, I reposted the case multiple times. You kept saying (and continue to say) that I never asked you for clarification, but I literally just demonstrated that I did. hun, let's take this to ts yes? | ||
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as i said. personality flaw i think i'm clear. it frustrates me when people don't understand ^^ i often think they're just not reading unfortunately or perhaps fortunately for my blood pressure, there are players who understand me perfectly ^^ | ||
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On August 09 2015 05:28 iGrok wrote: I didn't say sub-optimally, I said anti-town. Refusing to communicate or answer questions is actively anti-town. admittedly i didn't answer your question saying that i refused to communicate or answer questions on the whole is a gross misrepresentation of my play this game. if your only purpose here is to "win" by saying that it's not your fault for misreading me and it was my fault for playing that way, i've already accepted responsibility for the parts of my play that are subpar the fact of the matter, though, is your read wasn't good. there was a reason most of the game didn't agree with you and it wasn't just because they're all bad and you're the only good player here, i can assure you | ||
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On August 09 2015 05:32 iGrok wrote: I was responding to JAT. I'm not sure what you want me to respond to on your end, you've made your point actually clear. You think you're clear enough, and if you think someone doesn't understand you assume they're bad and not reading. I don't know how I'm supposed to respond to that. i think we need to take this outside this thread ^^ | ||
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this won't accomplish anything see y'all next game <3 | ||
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\o/ rsoul tonereads2real ![]() lol seriously man what did we agree on in our bet? you owe me <3 | ||
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