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EdgarAllanPoE
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EdgarAllanPoE
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I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse. ##vote iGrok I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 07 2015 01:12 rsoultin wrote: meh i'm about this far away from actually taking the plunge and going tl+ just for the filters; this is a bit irritating so i guess i'm down to who? cake edgar scott igrok ff yamato yeah of those i think edgar is most likely to flip scum i think cake is the very definition of igrok's active lurker thing and i'm still not seeing this town thing rayn's talking about speaking of lambs, wolves, cute dog, what? lol >< i'd forgotten that i was curious about that post, cake it's kinda like pulling teeth trying to get reads from her igrok is being...obstinate. i don't know if he behaves this obstinate as scum? but he's not being particularly helpful. i dunnae that i want to lynch him, but admittedly that's more crappy association with the guy voting him than based on his actual play scott i'm just gonna ignore for now. plain null yama...yama could be scum. he lurks as both alignments but his scum game is distinctly more lurky, plus ogi says he actually had the time last night as opposed to now where i think he's working, but i haven't actually popped into ts today and can't remember his work schedule exactly as for ff...it's more i'm just not sure. i've seen things i liked and didn't like. he can go with scott so to answer the rayn question (though i actually want to probe into these people more and they actually have to be here for me to do that) edgar/yama/cake in that order are my preferred lynches igrok could be scum or just...well yeah -_- and scott/ff i don't have enough info on Why am I your top mafia read when the only post that I've made in the entire game was an echo of your iGroK read 5 hours later? You said you dislike him because he wasn't posting anything and it's all cheerleading which is exactly what my post says, yet, I am your top mafia read in this game? | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 07 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote: this is a general sheeple post yes i agree with rayn that it's awkward wording, "impasse" but you vote on grok why do you single me out, since we're asking why questions today? you managed to sheeple the opinion of ruxx who you're also wary of, didn't present a read on me, cited reasons: coatchingesque <- my read, and bad case <- ruxx's read...but didn't go into how that made him scum? hint: bad cases don't make people scum how as his case bad? what was coatchingesque and how does that make him scum? and you also incorporated two excuses into your one and only post 1. don't blame you for being awful cause no filters 2. not going to be active I applaud you for being able to summarise my post with a longer word count than the original post but this does not answer my question in the slightest and I honestly do not know how you think it does. If you town read ruxxar and the first post I made in this game is sheeping both your town read's reasons and your own then how do I end up as your top scum read. Furthermore, you cite that I put inactivity excuses into my "one and only post" but then that entirely validates the excuse when it's my only post, yet, you treat Yamato who actually has no excuses for being afk and in fact said he'd play as a "meh, dunno he's probably at work" read. The difference between those two reads in the original post I quoted is quite astonishing. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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None of these things are a towny thought process. Coupled with his coaching and cheerleading earlier and his inablity to answer basic questions then he is an excellent lynch. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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My vote on igrok was because: A) I was not sure if I'd be around or want to play at all with no filters since I work the entirety of the cycle and catching up does not particularly work for me. B) my read on ruxxar was based on other people's opinions and my read on igrok was based on mine + ruxxar's opinions and so I picked the person that made the read on the other. I can still think both are scummy and pick one though, how would that make me mafia either way? | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 07 2015 08:08 rsoultin wrote: okay, let's try this again how is igrok's case bad? what was "coatchingesque" and how does that make him scum? and, again...i love repeating myself...just because you parrot ruxxy and myself doesn't give you a free town pass. it means you can parrot. whoopdeedoo yamato is right there with you in my preferred lynch club answer the questions I don't know if there is somehow a breakdown in English which you quite clearly can read but how does any of that answer my question at all? You have simply repeated questions towards me that are irrelevant since you and ruxxar are the people I was "parroting". I will make this as plain and simple as I can for you. Since my post is just a parrot of YOUR points and your town read's points, why am I your top mafia read? On August 07 2015 01:14 rsoultin wrote: which ones? some of them i'm pretty certain i made first, and regardless, how does it make me scum to have the same reads as others? Apparently you think having the same reads and sheeping does not make people mafia so why is it different for me? Furthermore, why am I the top of your scum reads when all I've done is parrot you but Yamato isn't when you say he's playing exactly like his mafia meta? There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 07 2015 07:46 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: I do not care why you are voting me. We are going to lynch igrok today. Every post he makes contains things that look like he is a person that is trying his hardest to formulate coherent reads to fit in but instead they look really flawed and based on silly things where he pushes false dichotomies such as someone being silly-town or mafia but we should lynch them anyway. None of these things are a towny thought process. Coupled with his coaching and cheerleading earlier and his inablity to answer basic questions then he is an excellent lynch. Made it quite clear here. His posts simply aren't coming from someone looking to solve the game but rather give opinions on people in a formulaic way that is not congruent with someone in the dark that has to think about things. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 07 2015 16:43 Rels wrote: It doesn't make sense. 1 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is scummy 2 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is right though: igrok is pushing for rsoul's mislynch Edgar is voting igrok based on ruxxar's read, which is that igrok is pushing rsoultin's mislynch: He reaffirmed here that was part of the reason of his vote: 3 - Edgar thinks rsoul is happy pushing for his mislynch And now he's saying rsoultin may be mafia pushing for a mislynch: So he believes at the same time: - ruxxar is scummy - ruxxar is right, igrok is scummy for pushing rsoul's mislynch - rsoul is pushing for edgar's mislynch This guy is mafia. This is exactly what my first post says and what I think, yes. Every game that I have seen Ruxxar in he was quite happy to bus his team anyway and so I simply did not discount that they could be both mafia together since independently they were scummy. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 07 2015 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: like the fact that he said he doesn't know what to think and then he votes for iGrok in the next sentence is pure mafia. This post is also an extremely flagrant attempt to discredit what my original post said completely. At no point did I not know what to think. I was having an external monologue to display what I thought about the Ruxxar and iGroK predicament and to display my cursory attempts at a brief read through of the thread (It is not, as Rels said, "A post that took a long time to think of"). Then there is this post: + Show Spoiler + On August 07 2015 22:24 rsoultin wrote: ... you are basically asserting two things: 1. mafia cannot use other people's reasons that they've read in the thread to make reads - do i really have to explain how this isn't true? 2. i should townread anyone who has the same opinions i do - uhhhh, no. i can be wrong. mafia can buss your line of thinking is bad. your push/argumentation in this direction is irrelevant, because you keep repeating that i should for whatever reason not be scumreading you based on these two false! assertions i did not spell it out because i generally assume (especially given the pretty, long words you've been using) that people aren't morons until proven otherwise. if you're halfway intelligent you should already get what i'm saying i do not find it townie for someone's one and only post to express that much uncertainty while blatantly sheeping not just a read but the exact reasons for a read you proceeded to do it again with your pretty "false dichotomies" bit, which focused in on rayn's questioning of igrok's reasoning the next time i have seen nothing original from you except for the assertions toward me that i highlighted above where you keep insisting that i should be townreading you and somehow miss that yamato is my second preferred lynch...you are acting like i'm townreading him lol >< which is clearly not the case i asked you the questions because you parroted ruxxar and myself and i want you to explain: 1. why the case that you said was bad is bad 2. what exactly he said was "coatchingesque" and why that makes him scum because i want to see if you actually believe these things. i want to know your thought process when you made these blanket statements to see if they're anything but just blatant plagiarism it's amazing that you don't understand what the problem is and that you keep dodging something this simple to answer. you said the words. why can't you elaborate? I never mentioned that mafia could not do those things, that is a fallacy that I pointed out from YOUR own thinking here: On August 07 2015 01:14 rsoultin wrote: which ones? some of them i'm pretty certain i made first, and regardless, how does it make me scum to have the same reads as others? Your post is extremely poignant to this situation because: A) You use this argument for your own defence. B) You then use this same logical fallacy to paint my posting in a negative light to your own benefit. Your second point is extremely incongruous with what a town thought process should be. In most cases people that are using your own reads and acknowledging those points are not their own are overwhelmingly likely to be town. Furthermore, in no instance have you EVER elaborated (still after my repeated questioning) why I am your top scum read. Your second point references my qualm but instead of stating why you actually think I am mafia you try and bypass the whole quesion, yet again. You state that mafia "can" bus but how does this relate to why I am mafia in the slightest? You also state that I must be intelligent because of X, Y, Z but then ask me entirely redundant questions which, if you were town, would absolutely know would lead nowhere but a circular argument. What do you expect me to answer because it would be more than simple to just find where you mention "cheerleading" and "coaching" and just reference those points to appease you. If you are going to say that your mafia read is in that post where you mention my "uncertainty" can you show me where exactly I am uncertain of anything in the slightest? That is also, just like Raynpelikoneet, a gross misrepresentation of my post. I thought they were both capable of being mafia and any uncertainty was purely to hedge bets and vote for the "most" mafiaesque player. To close this piece, I think what you have been doing (I'm not particularly sure you have actually done anything) is leading the town nowhere when normally I think you would be much more forward in getting scum reads out of the active people instead of falling back to a Yamato and myself scum team read, ESPECIALLY when you have TL+ and have access to filters. I think you are likely mafia too. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 08 2015 03:40 rsoultin wrote: excuse you i have actual fucking reads and original thoughts. you do not. we're not comparable, and trying to intimate that we are is ludicrous wham bam thank you ma'am -drops mic- When did I mention that we were comparable in this post? I hold you to the metric that you display in a multitude of games and I feel that you are not achieving this metric, especially with this advantage that you have. Yes, you have reads but does that answer anything I wrote in my post at all? No, it does not. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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Can somebody explain why they think otherwise? | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 08 2015 03:47 yamato77 wrote: So now you follow up with an explanation of the kelsier read. I will say, he seems rather disconnected with the thread currently. You say your general impression of him is that he has a "drive"? Could you elaborate? Quite simply I am used to him making cases, making a lot of posts that probe into everything and also trying to get to the bottom of things as town. Here I have seen random defences of people, only stances when other people make posts and a lack of drive. Like I said, aloof. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 08 2015 03:49 ruXxar wrote: ++. Edgar give other reads besides rsoiltin. What do you think of Yamato? Inactivity and misplaced caps lock post earlier suggest mafia (his giant mechanics post too). His last post quizzing me about Kelsier seems entirely out of place and robotic from a Yamato who just doesn't care (as town). I think he's quite likely to be mafia but it wouldn't entirely shock me if he wasn't for this moment. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 08 2015 03:58 KelsierSC wrote: I still can't remember what I forgot I'm pretty sure it was you that gave a list of people that you would like to lynch but either missed out myself or someone that was a big point of contention. On August 08 2015 03:53 CopCake wrote: You know edgar tbf to have same reads is something common with people but the fact you are focusing on rsoultin is quite bad like you didn't have posts on your own also and only posted like twice and then you come almost end of the day to deffend yourself and then you focus on rsoultin who is a universal town read just because she is PUSHING YOU and calling out your shit. I think when you are town you can accept town people calls you scum but try to explain why you aren't and say who is, not just call out the one who is voting you. Why is my push on Rsoultin bad? You are saying I have no reads of my own but then miraculously treat my mafia read of Rsoultin as if it didn't exist. I have a busy work schedule and kept the thread quite well informed that I would not be around till just before deadline, she also posted a big wall of text that I just said she was mafia for while I was gone to respond to. Also, Why is this post "so bad". Yamato can be inactive as either alignment but his return posts speak more to me than his inactivity. His catch up posts are just that, catch up posts with no actual reads in them, just likes and dislikes about posts. It is a classic mafia trait to go through the thread and comment on individual posts like he did. His caps lock post was also super out of place and didn't really make sense for the context of the thread which is reminiscent of someone who is trying to fake an emotion that they should be feeling. His post in regards to me questioning my Kelsier read is not something I'm used to from a town Yamato, I normally see him make numerous quips and comments instead of questioning in such a fashion. So, please, elaborate on how it is bad? | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 08 2015 04:12 yamato77 wrote: edgar, I'm beginning to think your horrible meta of me is actually alignment indicative unless you've never played with me (or rarely done so), I'm really inclined to just lynch you And in what way is it alignment indicative? If I am mafia I am speaking from my opinion of your meta knowing your alignment and in that case it would make you mafia too and if I am town I am speaking from my opinion of your meta and it's either wrong or right. If you are going to call me mafia then I hope you are prepared for the consequences. | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:17 yamato77 wrote: What consequences, exactly? If you're mafia, you're posting bullshit and none of it means anything about my actual alignment If you're town you're fucking bad and no one is going to listen to you I have no intention of lying, everything I have said is the truth. You are welcome to stop the ad hom in your previous posts and actually attack the statements that I put forth and state why they are incorrect though. I truly wish more people would do this but it seems Mafia on this site has devolved recently. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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I can see your case Kelsier but I would still like to see the entirety of his posts to make my own read on him since posts can be misconstrued. | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:28 CopCake wrote: lol edgar why dont you ask ruxxar why he also sees your post bad? because he aint voting for you and is your scum pal? Why are you circumventing my questions? It just slipped my mind that he had posted the same thing when I was responding to other people. Please elaborate on your reasoning because regardless of if I get lynched this is a setup where every read needs to be fleshed out and if you are on my wagon for no reason then you will be next. I would appreciate you fleshing out those reads now, thank you. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 08 2015 04:10 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: I'm pretty sure it was you that gave a list of people that you would like to lynch but either missed out myself or someone that was a big point of contention. Why is my push on Rsoultin bad? You are saying I have no reads of my own but then miraculously treat my mafia read of Rsoultin as if it didn't exist. I have a busy work schedule and kept the thread quite well informed that I would not be around till just before deadline, she also posted a big wall of text that I just said she was mafia for while I was gone to respond to. Also, Why is this post "so bad". Yamato can be inactive as either alignment but his return posts speak more to me than his inactivity. His catch up posts are just that, catch up posts with no actual reads in them, just likes and dislikes about posts. It is a classic mafia trait to go through the thread and comment on individual posts like he did. His caps lock post was also super out of place and didn't really make sense for the context of the thread which is reminiscent of someone who is trying to fake an emotion that they should be feeling. His post in regards to me questioning my Kelsier read is not something I'm used to from a town Yamato, I normally see him make numerous quips and comments instead of questioning in such a fashion. So, please, elaborate on how it is bad? Please talk about this Cake. I want to know why you say these things instead of you continually skirting around it. | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:41 CopCake wrote: skirting around what? Your case on rsoultin is bullshit because she is/was pushing you and now because I am doing it you are also doing the same, dont you see? People who suspect you are basically your mafia reads. GO YOU! This is a silly argument. Why does it matter if a person is pushing me? The entirety of the game was pushing for my lynch at one point, am I not supposed to make a case on any of them? Of course I will be suspicious of people that push me more so because I am town and an easy mislynch with my lack of activity so when I see somebody whose points I am using calling me mafia for using her points (which was acknowledged) then I will be incredibly suspicious of that person. Not to mention all of my points are fully elaborated, and have nothing to do with her actually pushing me and everything to do with the way she is pushing me. I suggest you rethink your way of finding mafia if you think your points mean anything. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 08 2015 04:49 CopCake wrote: Ok Edgar who are your mafia reads? What do you think of ruxxar who is the one hard deffending you? iGroK, possibly Kelsier (although waning a bit), Rsoultin, Yamato (waning a bit) and then there are a lot of null people like Scott, FecalFeast etc. Ruxxar hard defending me is giving me the creeps but I am not inclined to call the person saving me mafia at this point in time (I dislike that he was super trying to hedge his bets when he said he disliked my posts at the same time you did). I still have not heard any response from you as to why my Yamato post is bad at all. I would very, very, very much like to lynch iGroK today but I think people are just going to default to Scott which I dislike. | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:55 The Shining wrote: Wait am I coming off of Edgar then or what? Fucking work got hectic over here and I've missed the last few pages, idk how the Scott wagon got traction. All I can say about him is I remember being in a newbie game with him once where he had little to no posts d1, we lynched him, he flipped VT. Feels like that again. And that game, scum was pretty active. Bahhhh Switch to iGroK. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 08 2015 04:56 yamato77 wrote: I'd really rather not have some yolo switch on to iGrok At this moment I prefer edgar for reasons I've stated. You have not stated reasons. You have somehow transitioned from my meta read on you being possibly alignment indicative to somehow super alignment indicative to being your most preferred lynch all over everything despite not once saying why my read was wrong in the slightest. If you want to play the game of Mafia then I'm all for it. Hit me with your best shot. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 08 2015 04:57 rsoultin wrote: fuck it ##unvote ##vote EdgarAllanPoE yolo! \o/ And with my flip I hope you all read my big post on why rsoultin is mafia. I really really hope you do this. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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Lynch Rsoultin. Read my post on her. It is the most legitimate case in this game. Good day. ##unvote ##vote EdgarAllanPoE | ||
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Night 1 A bridge exploded. There was one fatality. EdgarAllanPoE the VT has been lynched. Day 1 Final Votecount rsoultin (1): iGrok, ruxxar (1): EdgarAllanPoE (8): Rels, scott31337 (3): KelsierSC, Damdred, ruXxar Not Voting (0): | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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Only votes in the correct format will be counted, I have let this slide for now and will edit your vote into the vote count but in future do not let this happen as the automatic vote counter is very strict. Votes must be in the format ##Vote: ExactPlayerName or ##Vote ExactPlayerName I will be acting as interim host until Alakaslam or Sentinel return. If you do not like it that is unfortunate for you unless you would prefer to wait for an unspecified amount of time with the possibility of it being indefinite. | ||
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On August 06 2015 04:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Day 1: Slam crashed while driving on I-10 to LA and the road collapsed. Role PMs and stuff should be out. If not, PM me and I'll send you it. You have to vote. ^ this post has the real countdown in it, ignore slam's. We will also be following the OP's time (as sentinel was) which was 36 minutes ago. I have flipped. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 08 2015 05:19 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: Only votes in the correct format will be counted, I have let this slide for now and will edit your vote into the vote count but in future do not let this happen as the automatic vote counter is very strict. Votes must be in the format ##Vote: ExactPlayerName or ##Vote ExactPlayerName I will be acting as interim host until Alakaslam or Sentinel return. If you do not like it that is unfortunate for you unless you would prefer to wait for an unspecified amount of time with the possibility of it being indefinite. If you wish to preserve the integrity of the game instead of whining then you should follow both the OP's time and the day post's countdown, both of which ended 39 minutes ago and has subsequently been posted. | ||
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EdgarAllanPoE
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On August 08 2015 05:42 Alakaslam wrote: HEY. I AM IN THE CHINESE EMBASSY IN LOS ANGELES. I APOLOGIZE THIS HAPPENED SO OFTEN. HAVE A MITE OF PATIENCE. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491051-desert-center-mini-mafia?page=65#1293 I have done the flip and night post for you + votes, feel free to just copy and paste it if you wish to make it "official" as some people seem to have qualms that me doing it is somehow game altering for some God awful reason despite me being confirmed dead. People seem to have incredibly warped views on what constitutes "cheating" since in no way have I altered the game (make sure to check Alakaslam) | ||
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