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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 22 2015 22:11 GMT
#22
/in
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 23 2015 17:25 GMT
#37
Saying pregame, regardless of what I actually roll: I wanna try a different posting style this game than I did before. More reading, less but way bigger posts.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 24 2015 10:56 GMT
#75
/confirm
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 24 2015 20:20 GMT
#112
On July 25 2015 04:40 Xatalos wrote:
Everything seems to be working now with the votecounter (doesn't show any votes currently because I deleted all the test votes, but both of those bugs should now be resolved! - tested both with the same thread just now and no problems):

https://mafia-votecount.herokuapp.com/#490855-mini-mafia-down-under-3-voting-thread

Let me know if it still doesn't work when the game starts.

Wait, this is hosted in Heroku? Haha :D

It's funny because I'm a Salesforce Software Engineer and Heroku is associated or (afaik) even owned by Salesforce.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 24 2015 20:22 GMT
#113
1 There are no notifications unless absolutely necessary.
I was wondering if I should really ask this. What actions does this rule include?

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 24 2015 20:26 GMT
#115
Are 4 pages of filter a solid measure for posts? I mean, are always 20 posts on 1 page of filter or does it also depend on the post size?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 24 2015 21:29 GMT
#128
On July 25 2015 06:16 Xatalos wrote:
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On July 25 2015 05:20 boxerfred wrote:
On July 25 2015 04:40 Xatalos wrote:
Everything seems to be working now with the votecounter (doesn't show any votes currently because I deleted all the test votes, but both of those bugs should now be resolved! - tested both with the same thread just now and no problems):

https://mafia-votecount.herokuapp.com/#490855-mini-mafia-down-under-3-voting-thread

Let me know if it still doesn't work when the game starts.

Wait, this is hosted in Heroku? Haha :D

It's funny because I'm a Salesforce Software Engineer and Heroku is associated or (afaik) even owned by Salesforce.


Apparently it was acquired by Salesforce... Didn't even know that lol

It's only using the free Heroku hosting though. Barely enough to host this app.

(By the way I was once in a job involving managing Salesforce information of a company too :D haha)

hahah this is really cool! I'm just a code monkey though, doing lots of apex/visualforce work. also java. and angularjs. and jquery. fuck me. im a nerd.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 24 2015 22:28 GMT
#147
On July 25 2015 07:16 KelsierSC wrote:
vt again, great


Like, really?

16) KelsierSC (filter) False Lead modkilled Night 3 in Gaiden.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 24 2015 22:42 GMT
#151
Well I'm going to bed, won't have much time to play tomorrow, will be there in the evening hours and catch up. So see ya then.

On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am also a cop.


On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read.


Rsoul how is Kelsier's thing "too obvious" but this is not too obvious but a scumslip?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 24 2015 22:45 GMT
#152
Hmpf, I just now see the "lol more seriously" part of your post, so nvm I guess.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 25 2015 07:50 GMT
#191
Kelsier, I couldn't find a game where you roll VT and claim it D1, though you have had "VT 3 times in a row" games before.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 25 2015 08:01 GMT
#192
Rayn still claiming?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 25 2015 10:53 GMT
#201
On July 25 2015 19:21 KelsierSC wrote:
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On July 25 2015 16:50 boxerfred wrote:
Kelsier, I couldn't find a game where you roll VT and claim it D1, though you have had "VT 3 times in a row" games before.


Seems like a really important use of your time.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/489370-lost-but-not-forgotten-mini-mafia?user=KelsierSC











Haha, apparently I suck. I checked the statistics thread, not the recent ones. Okay, let's go on. Snickers is strange. Also the cop claim is strange.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 26 2015 01:00 GMT
#379
On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote:
This is kinda scummy.

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On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am also a cop.


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On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read.


The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling.

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On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:
On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes

but guys, guys, guys...

rayn is scuuum ^^


he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^

guys!

guys! guys!

listen to me...

lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think?

-fades back into the ether-


This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something.

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On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote:
OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME!

Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu


This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know.


I agree with this post, although I don't like the last part, it's just too weak and I cannot reproduce it.
GlowingBear gave me a hard time with this:

On July 26 2015 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:
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On July 26 2015 02:02 rsoultin wrote:
On July 26 2015 02:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2015 01:50 rsoultin wrote:
okay, you can be town lol ><

now learn to sarcasm xP

On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:
On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes

but guys, guys, guys...

rayn is scuuum ^^


he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^

guys!

guys! guys!

listen to me...

lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think?

-fades back into the ether-


^ it's partially an inside joke and you speak Portuguese so you're somewhat forgiven, but i actually haven't been defending myself because there's nothing to defend myself from apart from idiocy

as for the hopeless thing...i'm willing to lynch him, there's nothing more to be said about him

and i don't like clarity

now, if you're town, find another tree to bark up ^^ talk to me about clarity, actually


Ok, it could be sarcasm, but what do you do of his joke?
It's odd.

Lemme see clarity


lol, it is sarcasm. what are you asking? what do i do of whose joke what?


Dear, Rayn's cop claim was a joke. He even said "oh no it's detective OP's are hard to read". I felt this joke was a bit off. But it could be town trying to generate discussion, and that's okay. But he came to the thread and said his plan was to stay in the shadows? How come he expects that he will stay in the shadows when he does a controversial joke claim in the beginning of the game? It doesn't make sense


Like, one the one hand, he doesn't get the sarcasm in rsoultin's post. On the other hand, he identifies Rayn's cop claim as a joke. Why is that? The sarcasm was way easier to identify as sarcasm than the claim as a joke. Why is he so sure the claim is a joke? When I saw the claim, I was thinking "nahh, probably not cop, this op thingy is totally try-hard dumbtelling". However, seeing it as a dumbtell or as a lie - neither of that is an actual joke. Also, if that was a joke, that wouldn't just have been "a bit off", but instead a really really bad!

_____________

Snickers - I don't understand him, don't understand the shitfight he kinda got into with rsoul (rsoul blocked it rather quickly, thankfully so). Would be fine with a lynch, he's causing too much trouble without actually contributing. I don't like that style at all, especially in a post restricted game - the goal for post restriction is to increase post quality and lots of his posts are just useless.

_____________

On July 26 2015 05:42 GlowingBear wrote:
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On July 26 2015 05:39 KelsierSC wrote:
simple reason why rsoul is angry? probably the same reason i appear "annoyed"

idiots and snickers. but i repeat myself


Whining is 90% of what you're doing. Maybe you should move you ass and explain what is stupid in people's play


Fun fact: he started off with a frustrated "I'm VT again fuck me" post. When he was scum in Gaiden, he was not whining at all. I can see town KSC do this. This, plus a tone thing which I cannot really get a grip upon as of now, make me think KSC is town.

________________

On July 26 2015 06:42 Onegu wrote:
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On July 26 2015 06:38 Snickers wrote:
clarity why the fuck is onegu on ur do not lynch list.



Because I am the uncounterclaimed named town, who claimed in my first post. No way in hell does scum onegu do that as it is suicide if I am CC. And I enjoy playing scum and dont want to get lynched day 1 or 2...


This feels genuine and legit. Not lynching Onegu.


________________

As for scott:

On July 26 2015 01:20 scott31337 wrote:
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On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.

He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all.


Not sure how this didn't make any sense - KSC posted about how he had to waste a post on replying to my post and seemed angry about it - so I gave him five posts. Does that make sense?

Rsoul gets a slight townlean for now, her second list is slightly better than the first one I wasn't really caring for though.

Not lynching Rayn today, probably not Onegu either -
Obi's question to me was weird but I don't see any scum motivation for it.

If GB doesn't show up today we can lynch him - Firm and Hopeless are on that list too.

This doesn't make sense. Onegu's claim is way stronger than Rayn's claim.

On July 26 2015 07:13 scott31337 wrote:
Scotty's shitty spreadsheet at the moment -

1 KelsierSC null - questioned me on the VT claim, but it felt weird how he did it.
2 FirmTofu null/scumlean - little posting, nothing sticks out.
3 Onegu named town no CC, going after rsolutin for being angry too early, but she doesn't seem that angry (scummy angry) YET.
4 Snickers others like him but I don't see why? (notably Clarity, rsoul) Calls me mafia - suspicious
5 raynpelikoneet Started off good but has faided, slight town lean
6 Clarity_nl null / slight scum? Wants to lynch me
7 boxerfred Nothing special, six posts of meh - scumlean
8 ObiWanShinobi Didn't see scum motivation from his post to me - little posting - null
9 rsoultin Slight townlean, not too angry - keep an eye to see if she does the magic trick if not just lynch D4.
10 GlowingBear second part d1 looking better, not too angry either - asking townie questions - townlean
11 Palmar townlean for a Palmar d1 day.
12 scott31337 town
13 Hopeless1der scumlean, first post was bad - but suspicious/scummy voters on him so need to watch for that.


Then he states one of the reasons why Onegu's claim is strong - no CC, doesn't townread him though? Then gives a town lean to rayn who "started good" - since when is a cop claim D1 good?

Earlier, there was this:

On July 26 2015 06:52 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 02:29 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2015 01:20 scott31337 wrote:
On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.

He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all.


Not sure how this didn't make any sense - KSC posted about how he had to waste a post on replying to my post and seemed angry about it - so I gave him five posts. Does that make sense?

Rsoul gets a slight townlean for now, her second list is slightly better than the first one I wasn't really caring for though.

Not lynching Rayn today, probably not Onegu either -
Obi's question to me was weird but I don't see any scum motivation for it.

If GB doesn't show up today we can lynch him - Firm and Hopeless are on that list too.


Your reads seems fabricated. You call Kelsier out but don't put him in your lynch list. You prefer to put me on the list for a reason that doesn't make me scum, and you follow thread sentiment on hopeless, and even brings firm to the table without a good reason behind it. Can you explain these things to me?



I called Kel on his VT claim and I thought that was scummy - but his responses have seemed okay.

Your reponses have been pretty good today, as that you are interested in solving the game.

I'm not seeing these magical townreads on Snickers - he requoted his huge ass vote post and that's half of his three page filter right there. The post I do like of his though
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 05:49 Snickers wrote:
the amount of people that got caught up on the kelsier bs and the post giving is unreal lol


And while writing this up, he goes and posts

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On July 26 2015 06:44 Snickers wrote:
okay so here is where i am at. I am not going to post who i think is town but im at 6 people who i feel are very towny. not including myself.

as for the rest of people i would say ur crazy if you dont want to see a lot more posting from onegu and obi.

lastly i will say i do have three mafia in mind but i only want to mention that scott is probably mafia so far.

no one talk about this last part of this post but i am prty sure one person is mafia and once i make a case everyone will agree.but this is for tomorrow.


He wants me as the lynch though - and doing the Kelsier thing - "There's three mafia, one of them is scott, I don't want to name the other two, ignore this post." - I'm not going to if you call me out on it when I'm town though, buddy, or waiting until tomorrow.


Okay, so what's the "Kelsier" thing? Because at first, you back off of the "are you really VT?" pressure you put on KSC, then you put out the other bolded part which does exactly what? It's hard to read, hard to understand, and does not have any real use. In the end, KSC appears in your list as a null read. I don't know why at all.

Concluding, I'm gonna put my vote on scott.

As for hope, I don't like his postsbecause as of now, he asks lots of questions but doesn't follow up. That might change during the next hours when he re-enters the thread. if he keeps lurking, I'm fine with a close-to-policy lynch. For now:
##Vote scott31337
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 26 2015 01:04 GMT
#380
I'm off again, it's 3 AM here and I'm kinda drunk.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 26 2015 19:15 GMT
#521
I'm here although tired as fuck. Anything brought up towards me besides snickers scumreading me? I actually don't want to bother with his huge post on me because it's like 90% shit.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 26 2015 19:28 GMT
#533
On July 26 2015 11:21 Snickers wrote:
Boxer is mafia. why? because everything he has done is to benefit himself and not town.His reads / posts are not helpful at all.

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On July 25 2015 07:42 boxerfred wrote:
Well I'm going to bed, won't have much time to play tomorrow, will be there in the evening hours and catch up. So see ya then.

On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am also a cop.


On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read.


Rsoul how is Kelsier's thing "too obvious" but this is not too obvious but a scumslip?


so he feels the need to share this information with us. but then I call him scum. and wow he pops into the thread a few hours later. and he never mentions something like.... "oh wow i got sick today and couldnt go to work" so he feels the need to share why he is gone but not why he all of a sudden shows up.


On July 25 2015 07:45 boxerfred wrote:
Hmpf, I just now see the "lol more seriously" part of your post, so nvm I guess.


This is one. ONE. Post after I asked rsoul for the "too obvious" thing. Makes your awesome "look he's lieing big time" theory look bad. Or stupid. As you prefer.


On July 26 2015 11:21 Snickers wrote:
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On July 26 2015 10:04 boxerfred wrote:
I'm off again, it's 3 AM here and I'm kinda drunk.


informs us again he is gone and assures us he is drunk probably he is trying to coast into the night be like "oh fuck i had such a bad hangover" extremely scummy for ur first serious post to have a fucking vote in it? why does he only have one serious post. well read his (5?) one liners and he also said he wants to focus on big posts in the pre game. Now here comes his big post at a fun time.


1. Me bringing up the post you for some reason missed makes your "LOOK HE'S DOING IT AGAIN" post invalid. But okay, I "pop in a few hours later" after you call me scum. Whoa, you caught me. Dude, it's normal to pop in to the thread "some hours later" and it's completely irrelevant if someone calls me scum or town or anything in that time.

2. Also I said I want to focus on big posts and look what I did, I did a huge post. You're just bullshitting about some weird timing things that are nonexistant.


there is so much shit wrong with this. Again first serious post = vote. Also just fucking looking at it before reading it made me fucking cringe cause i can post at least one other post that is so identical to this from another mafia. (the guy was also german and he had excuse galores too)

his first two points in the post is literally him commenting on the game. which is extremetly scummy. he is pratically asking us questions on what we think about this rather than him assertng anything. and holy shit he is just quoting people instead of picking up on something new.

now onto the part about me.

makes me looks worse and rsoul look better. its filled with a bunch of bs. snickers is wasting posts.... he doesnt even show an example and he does the dumbtell of snickers is wasting posts. well good job being less efficient with ur one post than i have with my w/e the fuck. I really think ur going to run out of votes at this fucking rate boxer.


he thinks ksc is town welcome to mafia down under 3

he is protecting onegu here but if u actually thought about onegu's original post and how he dodged my follow up questions it makes onegu look super fucking scummy if you want i will explain why onegu looks scummy if you dont see it.

says onegu claim is stronger than rains but back it up with no fucking facts. mind you hes still on stuff from what the first page of the game?

next part. rains claim was a fucking joke stop fucking talking about it. and this is a semi open game who the fuck cares onegu claimed named town. why did he claim it? to make himself look town which he isnt.

oh and he wants to lynch hopeless who is the easy lynch but probably wouldnt reveal shit. maybes hope is scum but there are many others comparable to his posts.

and he talks about no follow up = scummy except he doesnt know what a follow up is.

lynch him plz. and realize onegu claim is fake as shit


This whole paragraph is one big pile of shit. You're fabricating a weak as fuck case on me, including lies, not reading properly, making shit up, having a kind of ad hom tone. This is not even something I see as a "dumb town" move.

I'm fine with a scott or snickers lynch people.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 26 2015 19:30 GMT
#538
Gonna look into the Kelsier case next. Also gonna look into Clarity.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 26 2015 19:53 GMT
#580
so I make it short: I don't see KSC being scum, nor do I see GB being scum. Lynch clarity then?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 26 2015 21:04 GMT
#656
On July 27 2015 05:53 Palmar wrote:
Like technically I'm okay with you guys lynching FT so one of the following scenarios happen:

1) he flips mafia, yay!
2) he flips town, I can call all of you bad AND he gets punished for his shitty push on me.

This is pure bs, you know that?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 26 2015 21:05 GMT
#658
also i strongly suggest a snickers lynch by now because his contributions suck ass, he's causing more confusion than helping, and also I can see such play coming from scum.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 26 2015 21:58 GMT
#703
On July 27 2015 06:54 KelsierSC wrote:
although tofu just ninja votred him

On July 27 2015 06:54 KelsierSC wrote:
abort

this makes me really think ksc is town btw
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 26 2015 22:21 GMT
#720
Good job. That puts a really bad light on Kelsier now, given his last minute "let's get on scott" stuff.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 09:26 GMT
#768
not much time, but i noticed rsoul is at max so

##Give 10 posts to rsoultin

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 12:15 GMT
#771
On July 27 2015 15:03 rsoultin wrote:
81/90

i'd rather not continue spamming, so people, please read my entire post so you're not wasting my time with questions on things that have already been explained

bf is a townlean...it's in the post...i think that his reads on gb and ksc in particular look townie because of how they change with the info in the thread, but i don't have a strong reason to townread him in all honesty

i'll try to preserve posts or whatever and answer everything relevant at once

maybe y'all will notice what i noticed about clar but that's all i can say regarding the 3rd point

yeah I'm playing really low radar currently, need to step up. I'm aware of this.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 17:39 GMT
#785
I actually think we should go for someone who tried to stop the scum train:

scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu

That would include me.

So, regarding me:

- I'm town. Har har, I can tell from my role PM.
- I was the first on scott so technically, I didn't jump a train but instead stayed on who I chose to vote for.

Hopeless1ider:

On July 25 2015 08:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
Anyone interested in contesting the claims or are we going to just ignore that? For reference, my thoughts are onegu good, rayn indifferent.

I also don't get how Palmar literally claiming Mafia is conducive to being "blunt and to the point" as town.

Or kenpachI ruling people. Someone teach me how to kenpachI rule.


This is really a concerning post. Like "interested in contesting" - the usage of this word implies that the claim is not legit. Also while it appears like a proactive thing, trying to raise interest, there is no follow up to it when such thoughts didn't get much grip.

Reading his filter:
He says something on palmar, then on scott (casts his vote on him), a bit on Onegut ("Null/town lean") and a bit of blabla ("can't read him") on Rayn. Lots of flailing, nothing that's really helpful for town, not in the slightest tbh.

GlowingBear:

Well he did a huge case on Kelsier D1, biggest argument being

4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT

HE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity).
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!!


Well. That'd be a bit of way-too-hardcore bussing wouldn't it? Although I think KSC actually is capable of doing it, he bussed and double bussed in Gaiden, too. However how likely is it to role scum twice in a row? Not too likely. I know this is not bullet proof but it's another indicator of KSC being town.

However, his case doesn't get grip. But by that time, Tofu has 5 votes upon him and it becomes rather likely that he'd be the lynch! GB knows that, he already soft defends Tofu:

On July 27 2015 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:
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On July 27 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
@ GB

1. he's used his posts to contribute and make reads - point is wrong
2. could be if the point is the very last sentence...but i interpreted it as him saying that (scott? i think it was?) shouldn't be shutting down my reads just because he thought ksc was "scummiest"
3. yeah, null read is null here still - point is wrong
4. you're still stuck on "annoyance" meaning that ksc thinks you're scum - point is wrong

the only point that holds any water here, gb, is the second, just as rayn said, and frankly i can still easily see it coming from town so it doesn't outweigh all the things that i think makes ksc town this game


Well, I think point 2 is damning enough.

I can get what you're saying about the others.

But, as I stated, he repeatedly deflected pressure. It wasn't only on that post. He never answered my other pushes on him, he shut snickers down too.

I think it's very damning

I don't see the points on tofu. I do see the point on scott


On July 27 2015 05:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn we have so much information to deal with tofu tomorrow. Scott and clarity are way better lynches


Then, he joins the train:

On July 27 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Nah actually I'm voting tofu

I just saw that he is clearly voting every other wagon other than him.

##vote: FirmTofu


He does that, being the 6th vote. He brings up a totally NEW reason though, like as if he had to justify why he jumps the train on Tofu. However 20 minutes later, he again starts soft defending Tofu, indirectly:

On July 27 2015 05:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, lynch Scott
Or, if you want to do the correct thing, lynch keksier


On July 27 2015 05:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Town isn't bad, any of these options are okay lynches, I just think we have better targets other than tofu (I.e. Scummy lurkers)

The possibility of having a Mafia between one of those is high

Also, note how he says "scummy lurkers" without any follow up though. Like, 0 follow up.

Next up, scott:

On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
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On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?

So the guy he wants to hang (of course along with KSC) says something about an obscure feeling and GB simply asks who scott is referring to? Well, GB (as quoted above!) actually says quite a lot of times that Tofu is not a good lynch. That clarity is better. Kelsier is better. Scott is better. How is he so sure?

He then goes on with some words on mafia trying to get another train than tofu running. And BOOM, GB tries to get another train starting:

On July 27 2015 06:28 GlowingBear wrote:
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On July 27 2015 05:40 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I thought scott was scummy, I posted a quote of his that was scummy.

Yes superb evidence, it really makes me look "terrible"

can we lynch tofu already.


Why do I get this feeling we are right on Tofu and mafia are trying to get us to swap?


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On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


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On July 27 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?


I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.)


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On July 27 2015 06:14 scott31337 wrote:
I have just re-read Clarity's filter, never mind it's really bad - a vote on me and a comment on Hopeless's post (although Hopeless did a bit better) and nothing much else.

I could vote for him too.


Thought process does not compute.

You think Tofu is Mafia
Then you say Mafia is trying to take people out of the tofu wagon.
The alternate wagon is clarity. I suppose you may think Mafia could be there.
But you call Mafia people that were in other wagons and does not consider people that moved to the clarity wagon.
You even raise suspicions on me but you don't call me Mafia (?), what's the point then?
Then you dive clarity and suddenly he is bad? What about Mafia protecting tofu by forming another wagon?????

Your thought process makes no sense and it completely fits Mafia perspective

GUYS VOTE SCOTT PLEASE


On July 27 2015 06:35 GlowingBear wrote:
I mean, if you THINK Mafia is trying to take votes off of Mafia!Tofu you MUST consider they are forming the alternate wagon INSTEAD of ignoring people forming the alternate wagon and placing votes somewhere else. There is no other option

EVEN if you believed in what you just said, it would make me completely Mafia, and not just something you would say "I don't know you're Mafia". Then other Mafia are boxerfred (?) and PROBABLY A VET? Why a vet, which vet, why not me.

Then you simply say you could lynch clarity, man. You just said Mafia was taking votes off of tofu.

You can't me town.

PEOPLE PLEASE, SCOTT CAN'T BE TOWN


On July 27 2015 06:45 GlowingBear wrote:
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On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.

Let's go with that.


This is bullshit, we only need 3 more votes on scott


On July 27 2015 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:
God!!! It's so clear his thought process is fabricsted!!!!! Fucking vote him!!!!!



So yeah. I'm pretty convinced that GB is scum.

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 17:42 GMT
#788
tl;dr:

GB pushed some people, soft defended the scum lynch quite a lot of times, tried to get another train rolling. I think that's scummy.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 18:40 GMT
#792
mostly disinterest in actually proofreading, was feeling people were just fine and didn't read him towny anyways so why bother with a defense/more pressure.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 18:41 GMT
#793
like, thread was on him, why should I add to this if I don't have anything new to add.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 18:42 GMT
#794
if I die in the night, read my GB case. I have a feeling I hit something.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 20:45 GMT
#805
huge post on gb

noone cares
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 22:05 GMT
#818
On July 28 2015 06:58 Snickers wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 26 2015 06:44 Snickers wrote:
okay so here is where i am at. I am not going to post who i think is town but im at 6 people who i feel are very towny. not including myself.

as for the rest of people i would say ur crazy if you dont want to see a lot more posting from onegu and obi.

lastly i will say i do have three mafia in mind but i only want to mention that scott is probably mafia so far.

no one talk about this last part of this post but i am prty sure one person is mafia and once i make a case everyone will agree.but this is for tomorrow.



On July 26 2015 10:00 boxerfred wrote:
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On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote:
This is kinda scummy.

On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am also a cop.


On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read.


The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling.

On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:
On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes

but guys, guys, guys...

rayn is scuuum ^^


he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^

guys!

guys! guys!

listen to me...

lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think?

-fades back into the ether-


This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something.

On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote:
OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME!

Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu


This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know.


I agree with this post, although I don't like the last part, it's just too weak and I cannot reproduce it.
GlowingBear gave me a hard time with this:

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On July 26 2015 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2015 02:02 rsoultin wrote:
On July 26 2015 02:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2015 01:50 rsoultin wrote:
okay, you can be town lol ><

now learn to sarcasm xP

On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:
On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes

but guys, guys, guys...

rayn is scuuum ^^


he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^

guys!

guys! guys!

listen to me...

lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think?

-fades back into the ether-


^ it's partially an inside joke and you speak Portuguese so you're somewhat forgiven, but i actually haven't been defending myself because there's nothing to defend myself from apart from idiocy

as for the hopeless thing...i'm willing to lynch him, there's nothing more to be said about him

and i don't like clarity

now, if you're town, find another tree to bark up ^^ talk to me about clarity, actually


Ok, it could be sarcasm, but what do you do of his joke?
It's odd.

Lemme see clarity


lol, it is sarcasm. what are you asking? what do i do of whose joke what?


Dear, Rayn's cop claim was a joke. He even said "oh no it's detective OP's are hard to read". I felt this joke was a bit off. But it could be town trying to generate discussion, and that's okay. But he came to the thread and said his plan was to stay in the shadows? How come he expects that he will stay in the shadows when he does a controversial joke claim in the beginning of the game? It doesn't make sense


Like, one the one hand, he doesn't get the sarcasm in rsoultin's post. On the other hand, he identifies Rayn's cop claim as a joke. Why is that? The sarcasm was way easier to identify as sarcasm than the claim as a joke. Why is he so sure the claim is a joke? When I saw the claim, I was thinking "nahh, probably not cop, this op thingy is totally try-hard dumbtelling". However, seeing it as a dumbtell or as a lie - neither of that is an actual joke. Also, if that was a joke, that wouldn't just have been "a bit off", but instead a really really bad!

_____________

Snickers - I don't understand him, don't understand the shitfight he kinda got into with rsoul (rsoul blocked it rather quickly, thankfully so). Would be fine with a lynch, he's causing too much trouble without actually contributing. I don't like that style at all, especially in a post restricted game - the goal for post restriction is to increase post quality and lots of his posts are just useless.

_____________

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On July 26 2015 05:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2015 05:39 KelsierSC wrote:
simple reason why rsoul is angry? probably the same reason i appear "annoyed"

idiots and snickers. but i repeat myself


Whining is 90% of what you're doing. Maybe you should move you ass and explain what is stupid in people's play


Fun fact: he started off with a frustrated "I'm VT again fuck me" post. When he was scum in Gaiden, he was not whining at all. I can see town KSC do this. This, plus a tone thing which I cannot really get a grip upon as of now, make me think KSC is town.

________________

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On July 26 2015 06:42 Onegu wrote:
On July 26 2015 06:38 Snickers wrote:
clarity why the fuck is onegu on ur do not lynch list.



Because I am the uncounterclaimed named town, who claimed in my first post. No way in hell does scum onegu do that as it is suicide if I am CC. And I enjoy playing scum and dont want to get lynched day 1 or 2...


This feels genuine and legit. Not lynching Onegu.


________________

As for scott:

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On July 26 2015 01:20 scott31337 wrote:
On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.

He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all.


Not sure how this didn't make any sense - KSC posted about how he had to waste a post on replying to my post and seemed angry about it - so I gave him five posts. Does that make sense?

Rsoul gets a slight townlean for now, her second list is slightly better than the first one I wasn't really caring for though.

Not lynching Rayn today, probably not Onegu either -
Obi's question to me was weird but I don't see any scum motivation for it.

If GB doesn't show up today we can lynch him - Firm and Hopeless are on that list too.

This doesn't make sense. Onegu's claim is way stronger than Rayn's claim.

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On July 26 2015 07:13 scott31337 wrote:
Scotty's shitty spreadsheet at the moment -

1 KelsierSC null - questioned me on the VT claim, but it felt weird how he did it.
2 FirmTofu null/scumlean - little posting, nothing sticks out.
3 Onegu named town no CC, going after rsolutin for being angry too early, but she doesn't seem that angry (scummy angry) YET.
4 Snickers others like him but I don't see why? (notably Clarity, rsoul) Calls me mafia - suspicious
5 raynpelikoneet Started off good but has faided, slight town lean
6 Clarity_nl null / slight scum? Wants to lynch me
7 boxerfred Nothing special, six posts of meh - scumlean
8 ObiWanShinobi Didn't see scum motivation from his post to me - little posting - null
9 rsoultin Slight townlean, not too angry - keep an eye to see if she does the magic trick if not just lynch D4.
10 GlowingBear second part d1 looking better, not too angry either - asking townie questions - townlean
11 Palmar townlean for a Palmar d1 day.
12 scott31337 town
13 Hopeless1der scumlean, first post was bad - but suspicious/scummy voters on him so need to watch for that.


Then he states one of the reasons why Onegu's claim is strong - no CC, doesn't townread him though? Then gives a town lean to rayn who "started good" - since when is a cop claim D1 good?

Earlier, there was this:

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On July 26 2015 06:52 scott31337 wrote:
On July 26 2015 02:29 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2015 01:20 scott31337 wrote:
On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.

He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all.


Not sure how this didn't make any sense - KSC posted about how he had to waste a post on replying to my post and seemed angry about it - so I gave him five posts. Does that make sense?

Rsoul gets a slight townlean for now, her second list is slightly better than the first one I wasn't really caring for though.

Not lynching Rayn today, probably not Onegu either -
Obi's question to me was weird but I don't see any scum motivation for it.

If GB doesn't show up today we can lynch him - Firm and Hopeless are on that list too.


Your reads seems fabricated. You call Kelsier out but don't put him in your lynch list. You prefer to put me on the list for a reason that doesn't make me scum, and you follow thread sentiment on hopeless, and even brings firm to the table without a good reason behind it. Can you explain these things to me?



I called Kel on his VT claim and I thought that was scummy - but his responses have seemed okay.

Your reponses have been pretty good today, as that you are interested in solving the game.

I'm not seeing these magical townreads on Snickers - he requoted his huge ass vote post and that's half of his three page filter right there. The post I do like of his though
On July 26 2015 05:49 Snickers wrote:
the amount of people that got caught up on the kelsier bs and the post giving is unreal lol


And while writing this up, he goes and posts

On July 26 2015 06:44 Snickers wrote:
okay so here is where i am at. I am not going to post who i think is town but im at 6 people who i feel are very towny. not including myself.

as for the rest of people i would say ur crazy if you dont want to see a lot more posting from onegu and obi.

lastly i will say i do have three mafia in mind but i only want to mention that scott is probably mafia so far.

no one talk about this last part of this post but i am prty sure one person is mafia and once i make a case everyone will agree.but this is for tomorrow.


He wants me as the lynch though - and doing the Kelsier thing - "There's three mafia, one of them is scott, I don't want to name the other two, ignore this post." - I'm not going to if you call me out on it when I'm town though, buddy, or waiting until tomorrow.


Okay, so what's the "Kelsier" thing? Because at first, you back off of the "are you really VT?" pressure you put on KSC, then you put out the other bolded part which does exactly what? It's hard to read, hard to understand, and does not have any real use. In the end, KSC appears in your list as a null read. I don't know why at all.

Concluding, I'm gonna put my vote on scott.

As for hope, I don't like his postsbecause as of now, he asks lots of questions but doesn't follow up. That might change during the next hours when he re-enters the thread. if he keeps lurking, I'm fine with a close-to-policy lynch. For now:
##Vote scott31337



On July 28 2015 02:39 boxerfred wrote:
I actually think we should go for someone who tried to stop the scum train:

scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu

That would include me.

So, regarding me:

- I'm town. Har har, I can tell from my role PM.
- I was the first on scott so technically, I didn't jump a train but instead stayed on who I chose to vote for.

Hopeless1ider:

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On July 25 2015 08:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
Anyone interested in contesting the claims or are we going to just ignore that? For reference, my thoughts are onegu good, rayn indifferent.

I also don't get how Palmar literally claiming Mafia is conducive to being "blunt and to the point" as town.

Or kenpachI ruling people. Someone teach me how to kenpachI rule.


This is really a concerning post. Like "interested in contesting" - the usage of this word implies that the claim is not legit. Also while it appears like a proactive thing, trying to raise interest, there is no follow up to it when such thoughts didn't get much grip.

Reading his filter:
He says something on palmar, then on scott (casts his vote on him), a bit on Onegut ("Null/town lean") and a bit of blabla ("can't read him") on Rayn. Lots of flailing, nothing that's really helpful for town, not in the slightest tbh.

GlowingBear:

Well he did a huge case on Kelsier D1, biggest argument being

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4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT

HE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity).
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!!


Well. That'd be a bit of way-too-hardcore bussing wouldn't it? Although I think KSC actually is capable of doing it, he bussed and double bussed in Gaiden, too. However how likely is it to role scum twice in a row? Not too likely. I know this is not bullet proof but it's another indicator of KSC being town.

However, his case doesn't get grip. But by that time, Tofu has 5 votes upon him and it becomes rather likely that he'd be the lynch! GB knows that, he already soft defends Tofu:

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On July 27 2015 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
@ GB

1. he's used his posts to contribute and make reads - point is wrong
2. could be if the point is the very last sentence...but i interpreted it as him saying that (scott? i think it was?) shouldn't be shutting down my reads just because he thought ksc was "scummiest"
3. yeah, null read is null here still - point is wrong
4. you're still stuck on "annoyance" meaning that ksc thinks you're scum - point is wrong

the only point that holds any water here, gb, is the second, just as rayn said, and frankly i can still easily see it coming from town so it doesn't outweigh all the things that i think makes ksc town this game


Well, I think point 2 is damning enough.

I can get what you're saying about the others.

But, as I stated, he repeatedly deflected pressure. It wasn't only on that post. He never answered my other pushes on him, he shut snickers down too.

I think it's very damning

I don't see the points on tofu. I do see the point on scott


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On July 27 2015 05:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn we have so much information to deal with tofu tomorrow. Scott and clarity are way better lynches


Then, he joins the train:

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On July 27 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Nah actually I'm voting tofu

I just saw that he is clearly voting every other wagon other than him.

##vote: FirmTofu


He does that, being the 6th vote. He brings up a totally NEW reason though, like as if he had to justify why he jumps the train on Tofu. However 20 minutes later, he again starts soft defending Tofu, indirectly:

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On July 27 2015 05:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, lynch Scott
Or, if you want to do the correct thing, lynch keksier


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On July 27 2015 05:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Town isn't bad, any of these options are okay lynches, I just think we have better targets other than tofu (I.e. Scummy lurkers)

The possibility of having a Mafia between one of those is high

Also, note how he says "scummy lurkers" without any follow up though. Like, 0 follow up.

Next up, scott:

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On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?

So the guy he wants to hang (of course along with KSC) says something about an obscure feeling and GB simply asks who scott is referring to? Well, GB (as quoted above!) actually says quite a lot of times that Tofu is not a good lynch. That clarity is better. Kelsier is better. Scott is better. How is he so sure?

He then goes on with some words on mafia trying to get another train than tofu running. And BOOM, GB tries to get another train starting:

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On July 27 2015 06:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:40 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I thought scott was scummy, I posted a quote of his that was scummy.

Yes superb evidence, it really makes me look "terrible"

can we lynch tofu already.


Why do I get this feeling we are right on Tofu and mafia are trying to get us to swap?


On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


On July 27 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?


I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.)


On July 27 2015 06:14 scott31337 wrote:
I have just re-read Clarity's filter, never mind it's really bad - a vote on me and a comment on Hopeless's post (although Hopeless did a bit better) and nothing much else.

I could vote for him too.


Thought process does not compute.

You think Tofu is Mafia
Then you say Mafia is trying to take people out of the tofu wagon.
The alternate wagon is clarity. I suppose you may think Mafia could be there.
But you call Mafia people that were in other wagons and does not consider people that moved to the clarity wagon.
You even raise suspicions on me but you don't call me Mafia (?), what's the point then?
Then you dive clarity and suddenly he is bad? What about Mafia protecting tofu by forming another wagon?????

Your thought process makes no sense and it completely fits Mafia perspective

GUYS VOTE SCOTT PLEASE


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On July 27 2015 06:35 GlowingBear wrote:
I mean, if you THINK Mafia is trying to take votes off of Mafia!Tofu you MUST consider they are forming the alternate wagon INSTEAD of ignoring people forming the alternate wagon and placing votes somewhere else. There is no other option

EVEN if you believed in what you just said, it would make me completely Mafia, and not just something you would say "I don't know you're Mafia". Then other Mafia are boxerfred (?) and PROBABLY A VET? Why a vet, which vet, why not me.

Then you simply say you could lynch clarity, man. You just said Mafia was taking votes off of tofu.

You can't me town.

PEOPLE PLEASE, SCOTT CAN'T BE TOWN


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On July 27 2015 06:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.

Let's go with that.


This is bullshit, we only need 3 more votes on scott


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On July 27 2015 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:
God!!! It's so clear his thought process is fabricsted!!!!! Fucking vote him!!!!!



So yeah. I'm pretty convinced that GB is scum.



boxer followed me to the scott train. and boxer kept calling me scum trying to defend himself but now he has never mentioned me as scum to follow it up. also check my filter i am not repeating myself but his day one was trash. 1. his big post 2. he takes a lot longer to defend himself rather than try to lynch the right fucking person

now in the night he has all of a sudden started playing ???????????????????????????????????????

now i dont want to talk about too much but lets look into obi



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On July 27 2015 22:34 Snickers wrote:
On July 27 2015 22:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm inclined to agree with Palmar's current list.
The only things I'd change would be moving hopeless down and moving kelsier up.

Hopeless currently fits into the same heuristic as FT did - someone who posted a case for the sake of posting a case. The scenario is slightly different, considering hopeless was under pressure and FT wasn't, but it still holds because hopeless basically threw his vote down and fucked off completely after people left him alone.
If we're lynching off the FT wagon, that's where I'd look.


lol


so obi told the cop the check me or rso and maybe clarity i think but they he says that i m in his top tier of two and rso right below that tier but still town. yea that makes perfect sense.

and lol again at boxer saying we are ignoring his big posts on gb. yea i guess a few lines is big compared to one liners.


1. i didn't "follow" you on scott.
2. i didn't say you're scum I said I'm fine with lynching you. That is because you're stupid af and throw out such a huge pile of bull shit that I will ignore you.
3. you ignored my post where i even brought up reasons why you are wrong. gtfo


also


1/80
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 22:06 GMT
#822
On July 28 2015 07:05 GlowingBear wrote:
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On July 28 2015 03:42 boxerfred wrote:
if I die in the night, read my GB case. I have a feeling I hit something.


A tree, probably. Check if you have any internal bleeding

God I was waiting until day post to make the joke

Are you a TB smurf?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 22:08 GMT
#827
On July 28 2015 07:07 Snickers wrote:
boxer cause ur defense is trash lol

okay you're right. all your very logical and decently thought out points on me are straight up right. My defense is shit. I bow to your argumentation, your reasoning and your wisdom.

3/80 and the last post on this bullshit.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 22:08 GMT
#828
On July 28 2015 07:07 GlowingBear wrote:
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On July 28 2015 07:06 boxerfred wrote:
On July 28 2015 07:05 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 28 2015 03:42 boxerfred wrote:
if I die in the night, read my GB case. I have a feeling I hit something.


A tree, probably. Check if you have any internal bleeding

God I was waiting until day post to make the joke

Are you a TB smurf?


Who's TB?

TotalBiscuit. Shame you didn't get the reference.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 22:13 GMT
#829
also I'm kind of confident in my GB read, especially since there wasn't anything constructive that would make me not think he's scum.

##vote GlowingBear
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 22:14 GMT
#831
Why is there an edited out vote from scott?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 28 2015 08:22 GMT
#997
I'd say we lynch between Palmar and rsoultin since they are most likely to have opposite alignments from what I've read now. Also lateron I'd suggest a snickers lynch because he's just spamming up the thread without giving genuine arguments to follow up on.

Clarity... still need to look into. However there is so much information coming up this day (and clarity completely disappeared, too) that we might actually consider a policy afk lynch.

Fun fact. rsouls's xP rate is low as fuck so she probably town :>.

On July 28 2015 12:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
It meant I want to lynch clarity and hopeless.


Obi why ninja Palmar then?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 28 2015 16:38 GMT
#1031
Palmar's currently putting a lot of effort in. But those posts really seem like "you know, on the one hand, can be this way, on the other hand, can be that way." That feels really wishy washy, opposing the "you're scum as fuck" push on rsoultin.

I re-read rsoultin's stuff on Clarity and it feels reasonable and townie to me. Palmar on the other hand makes a meh defense of clarity, mainly "look he got irl stuff so I believe it so don't lynch". After the lurker experience of Gaiden I'm actually fond of the idea of policy lynching afk's, namely Clarity and Onegu (although I still think the claim is genuine).

On July 28 2015 09:17 rsoultin wrote:
2/80

...

meh -_-

i really don't think he's scum, is the problem. like, i still think this is unlikely to come from a scummate as soon as ft enters the game?

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On July 25 2015 11:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't think you're playing?


^ GB should have known FT was playing if they were scum together?

i kinda think maybe he's a miller? cause i kinda think palmar doesn't fake-claim cop here?


This is the post Palmar scumread rsoul for after his fake cop claim. Tbh, I had the same thought, so go ahead and read me scum if you want to. My second thought was "Hm, unlikely given that there's a framer in already" but hey, who knows.

I think this post is NAI. I can see the possibility of town palmar vs. town rsoultin here. Thought of that already when I said that they are probably not the same alignment, however I think that was a false prerequisite. I have no indicators that they have opposite alignments.

So what I would suggest is that we lynch into Clarity instead of choosing between those wagons. The fact that both wagons started rolling rather quickly seems to me as if scum would be fine with lynching any of those two.

Also I want to point out that my scum read on GB still stands. I think he soft defended so often, directly and indirectly, that he's still my top scum read. So if anyone wants to get aboard a GB wagon, just let me know.

##unvote
##vote Clarity_nl
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 28 2015 16:39 GMT
#1032
EBWOP:

On July 29 2015 00:04 Palmar wrote:
Althought the hate does sound kinda townie

meeehhhhhhh~~~~~~~~


"RSOUL IS FUCKING SCUM LOOK AT THIS"

into

"meehhhhhhhhhh~~~~~~~ probably town"

This is what I really don't like.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 28 2015 16:43 GMT
#1033
10/80

EBWOP #2:

Either way, with lynching between rsoul and Palmar we lynch between the most active players and I don't like that idea D2.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 28 2015 17:08 GMT
#1036
On July 29 2015 01:59 GlowingBear wrote:
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On July 29 2015 01:38 boxerfred wrote:
Palmar's currently putting a lot of effort in. But those posts really seem like "you know, on the one hand, can be this way, on the other hand, can be that way." That feels really wishy washy, opposing the "you're scum as fuck" push on rsoultin.

I re-read rsoultin's stuff on Clarity and it feels reasonable and townie to me. Palmar on the other hand makes a meh defense of clarity, mainly "look he got irl stuff so I believe it so don't lynch". After the lurker experience of Gaiden I'm actually fond of the idea of policy lynching afk's, namely Clarity and Onegu (although I still think the claim is genuine).

On July 28 2015 09:17 rsoultin wrote:
2/80

...

meh -_-

i really don't think he's scum, is the problem. like, i still think this is unlikely to come from a scummate as soon as ft enters the game?

On July 25 2015 11:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't think you're playing?


^ GB should have known FT was playing if they were scum together?

i kinda think maybe he's a miller? cause i kinda think palmar doesn't fake-claim cop here?


This is the post Palmar scumread rsoul for after his fake cop claim. Tbh, I had the same thought, so go ahead and read me scum if you want to. My second thought was "Hm, unlikely given that there's a framer in already" but hey, who knows.

I think this post is NAI. I can see the possibility of town palmar vs. town rsoultin here. Thought of that already when I said that they are probably not the same alignment, however I think that was a false prerequisite. I have no indicators that they have opposite alignments.

So what I would suggest is that we lynch into Clarity instead of choosing between those wagons. The fact that both wagons started rolling rather quickly seems to me as if scum would be fine with lynching any of those two.

Also I want to point out that my scum read on GB still stands. I think he soft defended so often, directly and indirectly, that he's still my top scum read. So if anyone wants to get aboard a GB wagon, just let me know.

##unvote
##vote Clarity_nl


I'm starting to not believe you're town. You agree that palmar looks scummy, you agree that clarity is a good lynch, and you still scumread me? You think I'm double bussing?
You've made a huge case on me but never fully went against me. Why?

Dude, my vote was on you until I switched to clarity. I said in the post you quoted that you're still my top scum read. However I can't get a wagon going on you, so I switch.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 28 2015 17:09 GMT
#1037
I should add that you're still my top scum read but only skimmed your stuff D2, so that might be subject to change, yes. I think my case is quite good though.

12/80
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 28 2015 17:42 GMT
#1039
Oh, good catch! Missed that.

Hm, I read your post on Palmar with a "oh GB's a scumread of me, don't care too much" mindset. Hm. After rereading, I think those are strong points. However, my case on you is strong, too.

Okay. So for today and for me, it's clarity or Palmar lynch, nothing else. If Palmar flips town though, I'd go after GB in an instant.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 28 2015 17:43 GMT
#1040
I'm not too sure on a Palmar lynch however. Would still prefer Clarity. The flip would probably give us a lot of information.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 28 2015 17:45 GMT
#1041
15/80

boxerfred

I've said multiple times in mafia that the players I ignore tend to be mafia. If this is true, boxerfred is always mafia. I can hardly remember anything he has posted this game, which means it's been mostly boring and/or useless.

This is gonna be a really good filter for me to read


This is bullshit, Palmar. I did two huge posts that should be at least memorable.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 28 2015 18:03 GMT
#1045
well I'm around and will look in the thread for the next 3-4 hours, so let me know if there's something

16/80
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 28 2015 20:25 GMT
#1058
On July 29 2015 04:46 Onegu wrote:
You are all Dumb or me and rayn were the only town this game. YOU WANT TO FUCKING LYNCH ME?!!! LYNCH FUCKING ONEGU? THE CONFIRMED TOWN. YOU EVEN ALL SAY YOU BELIEVE MY CLAIM BUT WANT TO LYNCH ME ANYWAY. THE GUY WHO WAS THE FIRST TO SAY HE DIDNT LIKE FT AND THE SECOND PERSON TO VOTE HIM?

end rant

I guess palmar looks ok, not good for putting it out there

BF looks terrible for agreeing with it.



"im confirmed town and won't bother playing the game now and simply lurk"

gtfo, back to your lurk grounds.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 28 2015 20:28 GMT
#1059
this is game is not fun to play at all with onegu and snickers involved.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 28 2015 20:34 GMT
#1062
On July 29 2015 05:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Onegu I don't even know why you want to lynch rso anymore.
iirc she made a bunch of posts and you haven't even commented on them or anything. Afaik you've ignored her for almost two days.

He also missed that I'm not agreeing with Palmar on lynching Onegu but instead am saying that I'm fine with a policy afk lynch on people, namely Clarity. Huge pile of shit.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 28 2015 20:34 GMT
#1063
On July 29 2015 05:33 Onegu wrote:
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On July 29 2015 05:28 boxerfred wrote:
this is game is not fun to play at all with onegu and snickers involved.



Nope onegu is awesome. <3

No. Bye.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 29 2015 08:04 GMT
#1148
On July 29 2015 12:55 Snickers wrote:
GLOW BEAR IS MAFA

gb is mafia because he hard defended firm tofu day one and did not push scott. if you asked gb he would say snickers is a fucking dumbass and he pushed scott but lets look at the details.

gb comes with an interesting time with his kelsier push. it could be seen as a time to start a kelsier wagon in order to protect firm tofu. but thats not too scummy.

as the day goes on gb votes fly everywhere from keslier to firm tofu to scott. he also talks about wanting to lynch clarity.

at the end of the day here are the final votes

On July 27 2015 07:05 Half the Sky wrote:
Night 1

(edited for vote tracker)

Final Day 1 Vote Count


FirmTofu (6): raynpelikoneet, Onegu, KelsierSC, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, scott31337, GlowingBear, Palmar
scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu
clarity_nl (1): rsoultin, Palmar, rsoultin, Snickers
Hopeless1der (1): raynpelikoneet, Clarity_nl, scott31337
boxerfred (1): Snickers, Snickers
KelsierSC (0): Snickers, GlowingBear, FirmTofu
raynpelikoneet (0): Palmar
rsoultin (0): Onegu, Snickers
palmar (0): FirmTofu

As the wind blows, FirmTofu is staring death in the face.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
The live voting tracker is located here.
Please FORMAT YOUR VOTES CORRECTLY in the voting thread or the script will not pick your vote up!


before the final votes gb claims he pushed scott hard but in reality he defended firm tofu. Why?

because this is a list of the people he asked to not vote firm tofu and to go to scott.

Rayn, Palmar, kelsier

he also told rayn to vote clairty earlier and he told palmar to vote kelsier earlier. all over the place with who to lynch but not who to not lynch.

ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY

he never asks me, clarity or rsoultin to switch are votes to scott. Why wouldnt he if he wanted scott to be lynched?

gb also claims kelsier can not be scum because firm tofu pushed him. but firmtofu also pushed scott.
i think this was a way to not seem like for it to be scummy to ask kelsier to switch to scott. cause why ask scum read from day one (who you posted a huge post on) to go to scott.


Like, really? Not like that is what I brought up earlier.

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On July 28 2015 02:39 boxerfred wrote:
I actually think we should go for someone who tried to stop the scum train:

scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu

That would include me.

So, regarding me:

- I'm town. Har har, I can tell from my role PM.
- I was the first on scott so technically, I didn't jump a train but instead stayed on who I chose to vote for.

Hopeless1ider:

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On July 25 2015 08:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
Anyone interested in contesting the claims or are we going to just ignore that? For reference, my thoughts are onegu good, rayn indifferent.

I also don't get how Palmar literally claiming Mafia is conducive to being "blunt and to the point" as town.

Or kenpachI ruling people. Someone teach me how to kenpachI rule.


This is really a concerning post. Like "interested in contesting" - the usage of this word implies that the claim is not legit. Also while it appears like a proactive thing, trying to raise interest, there is no follow up to it when such thoughts didn't get much grip.

Reading his filter:
He says something on palmar, then on scott (casts his vote on him), a bit on Onegut ("Null/town lean") and a bit of blabla ("can't read him") on Rayn. Lots of flailing, nothing that's really helpful for town, not in the slightest tbh.

GlowingBear:

Well he did a huge case on Kelsier D1, biggest argument being

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4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT

HE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity).
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!!


Well. That'd be a bit of way-too-hardcore bussing wouldn't it? Although I think KSC actually is capable of doing it, he bussed and double bussed in Gaiden, too. However how likely is it to role scum twice in a row? Not too likely. I know this is not bullet proof but it's another indicator of KSC being town.

However, his case doesn't get grip. But by that time, Tofu has 5 votes upon him and it becomes rather likely that he'd be the lynch! GB knows that, he already soft defends Tofu:

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On July 27 2015 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
@ GB

1. he's used his posts to contribute and make reads - point is wrong
2. could be if the point is the very last sentence...but i interpreted it as him saying that (scott? i think it was?) shouldn't be shutting down my reads just because he thought ksc was "scummiest"
3. yeah, null read is null here still - point is wrong
4. you're still stuck on "annoyance" meaning that ksc thinks you're scum - point is wrong

the only point that holds any water here, gb, is the second, just as rayn said, and frankly i can still easily see it coming from town so it doesn't outweigh all the things that i think makes ksc town this game


Well, I think point 2 is damning enough.

I can get what you're saying about the others.

But, as I stated, he repeatedly deflected pressure. It wasn't only on that post. He never answered my other pushes on him, he shut snickers down too.

I think it's very damning

I don't see the points on tofu. I do see the point on scott


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On July 27 2015 05:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn we have so much information to deal with tofu tomorrow. Scott and clarity are way better lynches


Then, he joins the train:

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On July 27 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Nah actually I'm voting tofu

I just saw that he is clearly voting every other wagon other than him.

##vote: FirmTofu


He does that, being the 6th vote. He brings up a totally NEW reason though, like as if he had to justify why he jumps the train on Tofu. However 20 minutes later, he again starts soft defending Tofu, indirectly:

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On July 27 2015 05:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, lynch Scott
Or, if you want to do the correct thing, lynch keksier


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On July 27 2015 05:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Town isn't bad, any of these options are okay lynches, I just think we have better targets other than tofu (I.e. Scummy lurkers)

The possibility of having a Mafia between one of those is high

Also, note how he says "scummy lurkers" without any follow up though. Like, 0 follow up.

Next up, scott:

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On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?

So the guy he wants to hang (of course along with KSC) says something about an obscure feeling and GB simply asks who scott is referring to? Well, GB (as quoted above!) actually says quite a lot of times that Tofu is not a good lynch. That clarity is better. Kelsier is better. Scott is better. How is he so sure?

He then goes on with some words on mafia trying to get another train than tofu running. And BOOM, GB tries to get another train starting:

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On July 27 2015 06:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:40 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I thought scott was scummy, I posted a quote of his that was scummy.

Yes superb evidence, it really makes me look "terrible"

can we lynch tofu already.


[red]Why do I get this feeling we are right on Tofu and mafia are trying to get us to swap?


On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


[red]Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


On July 27 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?


I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.)


On July 27 2015 06:14 scott31337 wrote:
I have just re-read Clarity's filter, never mind it's really bad - a vote on me and a comment on Hopeless's post (although Hopeless did a bit better) and nothing much else.

I could vote for him too.


Thought process does not compute.

You think Tofu is Mafia
Then you say Mafia is trying to take people out of the tofu wagon.
The alternate wagon is clarity. I suppose you may think Mafia could be there.
But you call Mafia people that were in other wagons and does not consider people that moved to the clarity wagon.
You even raise suspicions on me but you don't call me Mafia (?), what's the point then?
Then you dive clarity and suddenly he is bad? What about Mafia protecting tofu by forming another wagon?????

Your thought process makes no sense and it completely fits Mafia perspective

GUYS VOTE SCOTT PLEASE


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On July 27 2015 06:35 GlowingBear wrote:
I mean, if you THINK Mafia is trying to take votes off of Mafia!Tofu you MUST consider they are forming the alternate wagon INSTEAD of ignoring people forming the alternate wagon and placing votes somewhere else. There is no other option

EVEN if you believed in what you just said, it would make me completely Mafia, and not just something you would say "I don't know you're Mafia". Then other Mafia are boxerfred (?) and PROBABLY A VET? Why a vet, which vet, why not me.

Then you simply say you could lynch clarity, man. You just said Mafia was taking votes off of tofu.

You can't me town.

PEOPLE PLEASE, SCOTT CAN'T BE TOWN


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On July 27 2015 06:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.

Let's go with that.


This is bullshit, we only need 3 more votes on scott


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On July 27 2015 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:
God!!! It's so clear his thought process is fabricsted!!!!! Fucking vote him!!!!!



So yeah. I'm pretty convinced that GB is scum.


boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 29 2015 08:06 GMT
#1149
On July 29 2015 14:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On July 29 2015 13:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 29 2015 13:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
Snickers, keep whatever posts you want in a notepad file, i'll give you a couple posts tomorrow so you can avoid spamming the thread with your usual garbage. One concentrated dose that we can easily ignore would be just great though.



No pls.

How the fuck is this productive in any way? Are you kidding me?




##vote: boxerfred

+ Show Spoiler [reasoning] +

I am certain that one of boxerfred/GB are mafia, if not both. I'm much more inclined to lynch boxerfred atm.
On July 27 2015 07:05 Half the Sky wrote:
Night 1

(edited for vote tracker)

Final Day 1 Vote Count


FirmTofu (6): raynpelikoneet, Onegu, KelsierSC, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, scott31337, GlowingBear, Palmar
scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu
clarity_nl (1): rsoultin, Palmar, rsoultin, Snickers
Hopeless1der (1): raynpelikoneet, Clarity_nl, scott31337
boxerfred (1): Snickers, Snickers
KelsierSC (0): Snickers, GlowingBear, FirmTofu
raynpelikoneet (0): Palmar
rsoultin (0): Onegu, Snickers
palmar (0): FirmTofu

This is very good reasoning, I'm almost inclined to vote myself now. Almost as good as Onegu's reason to vote me.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 29 2015 08:11 GMT
#1150
I missed the Hope wagon starting but I joined it.
boxerfred
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July 29 2015 09:30 GMT
#1157
On July 29 2015 17:51 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 17:06 boxerfred wrote:
On July 29 2015 14:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
On July 29 2015 13:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 29 2015 13:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
Snickers, keep whatever posts you want in a notepad file, i'll give you a couple posts tomorrow so you can avoid spamming the thread with your usual garbage. One concentrated dose that we can easily ignore would be just great though.



No pls.

How the fuck is this productive in any way? Are you kidding me?




##vote: boxerfred

+ Show Spoiler [reasoning] +

I am certain that one of boxerfred/GB are mafia, if not both. I'm much more inclined to lynch boxerfred atm.
On July 27 2015 07:05 Half the Sky wrote:
Night 1

(edited for vote tracker)

Final Day 1 Vote Count


FirmTofu (6): raynpelikoneet, Onegu, KelsierSC, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, scott31337, GlowingBear, Palmar
scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu
clarity_nl (1): rsoultin, Palmar, rsoultin, Snickers
Hopeless1der (1): raynpelikoneet, Clarity_nl, scott31337
boxerfred (1): Snickers, Snickers
KelsierSC (0): Snickers, GlowingBear, FirmTofu
raynpelikoneet (0): Palmar
rsoultin (0): Onegu, Snickers
palmar (0): FirmTofu

This is very good reasoning, I'm almost inclined to vote myself now. Almost as good as Onegu's reason to vote me.



You are jumping on easy lynches for no reason. Get rekt

Hahahahahaha yeah EVERY SINGLE LYNCH THAT HAPPENED SO FAR WAS ME JUMPING ON EASY TRAINS

wow /ignore

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 29 2015 09:31 GMT
#1158
wtf onegu like you ignore pretty much everything in the thread for the sake of your rsoultin thing. when that doesn't take off, you go for me. holy crap you're a shitty af town or a genius scum
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 29 2015 09:31 GMT
#1159
bah im outta here again
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 29 2015 09:33 GMT
#1160
also my fucking points on GB are valid bras but hey noone cares so why should i, got enough for this cycle already

##give 40 posts to whoever cares bye
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 29 2015 09:33 GMT
#1161
what a huge pile of shit, not fun at all.
boxerfred
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July 29 2015 09:34 GMT
#1163
oh yeah and #vote gb
boxerfred
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July 29 2015 09:38 GMT
#1164
On July 28 2015 02:39 boxerfred wrote:
I actually think we should go for someone who tried to stop the scum train:

scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu

That would include me.

So, regarding me:

- I'm town. Har har, I can tell from my role PM.
- I was the first on scott so technically, I didn't jump a train but instead stayed on who I chose to vote for.

Hopeless1ider:

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2015 08:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
Anyone interested in contesting the claims or are we going to just ignore that? For reference, my thoughts are onegu good, rayn indifferent.

I also don't get how Palmar literally claiming Mafia is conducive to being "blunt and to the point" as town.

Or kenpachI ruling people. Someone teach me how to kenpachI rule.


This is really a concerning post. Like "interested in contesting" - the usage of this word implies that the claim is not legit. Also while it appears like a proactive thing, trying to raise interest, there is no follow up to it when such thoughts didn't get much grip.

Reading his filter:
He says something on palmar, then on scott (casts his vote on him), a bit on Onegut ("Null/town lean") and a bit of blabla ("can't read him") on Rayn. Lots of flailing, nothing that's really helpful for town, not in the slightest tbh.

GlowingBear:

Well he did a huge case on Kelsier D1, biggest argument being

Show nested quote +
4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT

HE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity).
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!!


Well. That'd be a bit of way-too-hardcore bussing wouldn't it? Although I think KSC actually is capable of doing it, he bussed and double bussed in Gaiden, too. However how likely is it to role scum twice in a row? Not too likely. I know this is not bullet proof but it's another indicator of KSC being town.

However, his case doesn't get grip. But by that time, Tofu has 5 votes upon him and it becomes rather likely that he'd be the lynch! GB knows that, he already soft defends Tofu:

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
@ GB

1. he's used his posts to contribute and make reads - point is wrong
2. could be if the point is the very last sentence...but i interpreted it as him saying that (scott? i think it was?) shouldn't be shutting down my reads just because he thought ksc was "scummiest"
3. yeah, null read is null here still - point is wrong
4. you're still stuck on "annoyance" meaning that ksc thinks you're scum - point is wrong

the only point that holds any water here, gb, is the second, just as rayn said, and frankly i can still easily see it coming from town so it doesn't outweigh all the things that i think makes ksc town this game


Well, I think point 2 is damning enough.

I can get what you're saying about the others.

But, as I stated, he repeatedly deflected pressure. It wasn't only on that post. He never answered my other pushes on him, he shut snickers down too.

I think it's very damning

I don't see the points on tofu. I do see the point on scott


Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn we have so much information to deal with tofu tomorrow. Scott and clarity are way better lynches


Then, he joins the train:

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Nah actually I'm voting tofu

I just saw that he is clearly voting every other wagon other than him.

##vote: FirmTofu


He does that, being the 6th vote. He brings up a totally NEW reason though, like as if he had to justify why he jumps the train on Tofu. However 20 minutes later, he again starts soft defending Tofu, indirectly:

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, lynch Scott
Or, if you want to do the correct thing, lynch keksier


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On July 27 2015 05:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Town isn't bad, any of these options are okay lynches, I just think we have better targets other than tofu (I.e. Scummy lurkers)

The possibility of having a Mafia between one of those is high

Also, note how he says "scummy lurkers" without any follow up though. Like, 0 follow up.

Next up, scott:

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On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?

So the guy he wants to hang (of course along with KSC) says something about an obscure feeling and GB simply asks who scott is referring to? Well, GB (as quoted above!) actually says quite a lot of times that Tofu is not a good lynch. That clarity is better. Kelsier is better. Scott is better. How is he so sure?

He then goes on with some words on mafia trying to get another train than tofu running. And BOOM, GB tries to get another train starting:

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 06:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:40 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I thought scott was scummy, I posted a quote of his that was scummy.

Yes superb evidence, it really makes me look "terrible"

can we lynch tofu already.


Why do I get this feeling we are right on Tofu and mafia are trying to get us to swap?


On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


On July 27 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?


I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.)


On July 27 2015 06:14 scott31337 wrote:
I have just re-read Clarity's filter, never mind it's really bad - a vote on me and a comment on Hopeless's post (although Hopeless did a bit better) and nothing much else.

I could vote for him too.


Thought process does not compute.

You think Tofu is Mafia
Then you say Mafia is trying to take people out of the tofu wagon.
The alternate wagon is clarity. I suppose you may think Mafia could be there.
But you call Mafia people that were in other wagons and does not consider people that moved to the clarity wagon.
You even raise suspicions on me but you don't call me Mafia (?), what's the point then?
Then you dive clarity and suddenly he is bad? What about Mafia protecting tofu by forming another wagon?????

Your thought process makes no sense and it completely fits Mafia perspective

GUYS VOTE SCOTT PLEASE


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On July 27 2015 06:35 GlowingBear wrote:
I mean, if you THINK Mafia is trying to take votes off of Mafia!Tofu you MUST consider they are forming the alternate wagon INSTEAD of ignoring people forming the alternate wagon and placing votes somewhere else. There is no other option

EVEN if you believed in what you just said, it would make me completely Mafia, and not just something you would say "I don't know you're Mafia". Then other Mafia are boxerfred (?) and PROBABLY A VET? Why a vet, which vet, why not me.

Then you simply say you could lynch clarity, man. You just said Mafia was taking votes off of tofu.

You can't me town.

PEOPLE PLEASE, SCOTT CAN'T BE TOWN


Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 06:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.

Let's go with that.


This is bullshit, we only need 3 more votes on scott


Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:
God!!! It's so clear his thought process is fabricsted!!!!! Fucking vote him!!!!!



So yeah. I'm pretty convinced that GB is scum.


How is Onegu not damning GB for that but only me? ASKDHALSKDHSALDKHSALDKASHJDLKASHDLKSAHSA Seriously Onegu scum

bye
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 29 2015 09:39 GMT
#1165
lynch gb + onegu, probably we'll be fine then
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 29 2015 18:01 GMT
#1244
##give 20 posts to Snickers

I like the "lynch GB" direction and strongly suggest that my case on him gets re-read. I'll be here from now until EoD.

Onegu, until you do something useful apart from scumreading me, I'll just ignore you.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 29 2015 18:05 GMT
#1249
My town reads are scott for the palmar claim reaction, hopeless for the un-cc-ed claim, kelsier for a tone thingy (feels really different from the scum games i played with him).

Given Onegu's behaviour, I'd suggest a cop check if possible or probably a vigi shot if possible. We don't need lurkers that do not contribute at all, not now, not later, not in lylo.

Top scum read is GB, as before. Clarity gonna be modkilled and I feel it's not a bad thing to happen. Last minute replacement would suck ass tbh.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 29 2015 18:06 GMT
#1252
I just got host-sniped.

That really sucks, such a late replacement. Like I feel GB is town but also Clarity was playing really horrible which I'm not seeing him do anytime soon as town. However his IRL reasons were legit then, so it might've come from this. Bah!

If Ala is now gonna hardcore lurk I'll be frustrated as fuck.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 29 2015 18:07 GMT
#1257
OWS, why is your vote still on the un-cc-ed cop?
boxerfred
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July 29 2015 18:08 GMT
#1258
36/60.

boxerfred
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July 29 2015 18:10 GMT
#1260
Boom, another thought on scott: why did he insta-believe both cop claims? Is that a scum tmi slip? In both cases he did not wait for a possible CC. Makes me re-think my town read.

37/60
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 29 2015 18:11 GMT
#1262
On July 30 2015 03:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 03:07 boxerfred wrote:
OWS, why is your vote still on the un-cc-ed cop?


I'm not voting the uncc'd cop?

My bad, just saw it. Messed up. 38/60
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 29 2015 18:11 GMT
#1264
On July 30 2015 03:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
you can only donate up to 10 posts total.

my bad

##give 10 posts to snickers

39/70
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 29 2015 18:18 GMT
#1270
Late replacement into "not gonna be there anytime soon"

so cool

40/70
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 29 2015 18:27 GMT
#1277
On July 30 2015 03:23 Alakaslam wrote:
See, boxer thinks whining about me coming late is a legit excuse to waste a post and snickers also feels this is just A-OK when he has a wealth of posts now, versus explaining his shit and chilling out on the posts- nope, he goes wasting them

Classic mafia post restriction game play, prove me wrong I dare you

Yeah and I played in 100 post restriction games already so this is exactly my tactic. Read the fucking rest, I've been pissed the whole day.

You know what I don't like?

1. "I'll be back next day and read up"
2. "Those two guys are scum because I just read two posts of them"

This is a great way to come back in a game when you just replaced a scum player who was under pressure anyways.

I can see clarity/GB scum team.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 29 2015 18:51 GMT
#1289
What I dislike about hope is that he still has his vote on me. There are way better lynches.
boxerfred
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July 29 2015 18:53 GMT
#1290
so please let's lynch between GB and clarity.
boxerfred
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July 29 2015 19:29 GMT
#1293
that's bullshit obi

go lynch gb
boxerfred
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July 29 2015 19:30 GMT
#1294
literally noone ever really commented on my case though snickers stole it. i can't even.
boxerfred
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July 29 2015 19:57 GMT
#1303
On July 30 2015 04:44 rsoultin wrote:
47/80

lol at least prof cancelled lab

wth are you people running around like chickens with your heads cut off? we have over 2 hours left before the lynch

order of business:
- hopeless claimed cop. if you are the real cop and you're not ccing him, you are wrong
- scott could be gf but statistically the chances are higher he's town assuming hope isn't cc'd. off the table in a 2 hr crunch
- slam needs to hard claim jailer/banisher if he is one. he's getting shot tonight if he's town and doesn't claim it anyway, and it removes the ridiculous ambiguity snickers started in the first place

i am not lynching gb
i'm not scum

if slam doesn't hard claim, i'm sorely tempted to lynch him, but will consider leaving it another day for him to get caught up

we need to discuss the lynch, be organized, and consolidate

i'm thinking bf but it's more poe than anything. what does everyone got?

scum has 1 kp and you say they kill the not-claimed jailor over the claimed cop? that's a highly scummy post, as the fact that you're not willing to vote GB this openly is.
boxerfred
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July 29 2015 20:43 GMT
#1328
On July 30 2015 05:26 rsoultin wrote:
53/80

i think scum is between

bf/scott/palmar/slam

i'm really not sure on which of these 4 are mafia but i have decent reasons to townread everyone else

you said like 2 min ago that slam is dead next night. scott is as green as it gets. check by uncced cop, reactions to claims, voted by ft. leaves palmar and me. your reads are bullshit rsoul
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 29 2015 20:51 GMT
#1333
why exactly would GB/clarity not make sense, kelsier?
boxerfred
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July 29 2015 21:14 GMT
#1353
On July 30 2015 06:11 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 06:10 Palmar wrote:
[b]##unvote
##vote rsoultin[b]

Reasoning is mostly PoE.

I don't want to lynch GB because he's been such an asshole. I have already at length discussed why I didn't want to lynch my strong townreads (scott and snickers) and the lurkers (onegu and slam). Hopeless is an unccd blue when we have none except the named townie so far so there is no reason to doubt it.

This leaves

Kelsier
Boxer
rsoultin
OWS

They all have good shots of being mafia.

Boxer because I don't notice him (and I haven't had time to re-read him). Rsoultin because of her reaction to my fakeclaim (and rayn scumread her for some reason). OWS because he's been completely shit and useless throughout the game and just agrees with whatever the common sentiment is at that time (or at least I feel that way) and kelsier because he is somewhat lacking in effort and was way too annoyed at the beginning of the game.

Kelsier is the one I'd first remove from the equation, the remaining three I will support a lynch on all of them with a slight preference for rsoultin and OWS over boxer mostly because I don't feel I have anything scummy actually on boxer.


63/80

bullshit

bring a fucking case or consolidate on the player who will protect your townread. it's that fucking simple. your vote is doing nothing

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 29 2015 21:47 GMT
#1388
like really, train on me?

k have fun bye
boxerfred
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July 29 2015 21:48 GMT
#1389
like, go ahead and lynch the guy who actually made sense the whole game, brought out a decent case on gb and gave no indicators of being scum over like the 5 people that are more likley to be scum than me.

seriously retarded town, didn't expect that switch from kelsier

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 29 2015 21:50 GMT
#1393
so what to keep in mind when I flip:

- case on gb
- onegu's shit vote on me
- kelsier making my train relevant
- rsoul yolo'ing me without reasons

so much OMGUS
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 29 2015 21:50 GMT
#1394
im not even gonna claim shit now because this is just retarded. look at onegu's "HE'S SO FAKE RAGING". lynch the fucking lurker with fire. just for the sake of it. bye.
boxerfred
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July 29 2015 22:38 GMT
#1445
On July 30 2015 07:22 Onegu wrote:
Like I really thought I saw a snickers scum slip day 1 but think I just misread and didnt bring it up...

But BF is final mafia I am like 90% sure.

you're completely ignoring that i was willing to switch to clarity

and i'm close to sure that you're the last scum.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 29 2015 22:39 GMT
#1446
though I'm still not willing to abandon my GB case. w/e gnite
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 29 2015 22:44 GMT
#1451
which is "don't get pissed if Onegu bullshits on you"?
boxerfred
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July 29 2015 22:45 GMT
#1452
On July 30 2015 07:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 07:39 boxerfred wrote:
though I'm still not willing to abandon my GB case. w/e gnite


I almost died trying to shenannies out of you. Wtf

sorry for consequently trying to lynch my top scumread
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 30 2015 08:12 GMT
#1464
I'm fine with lynching me, just so town can concentrate on scum. I'll explain as much as I can if I'm asked specific questions.
I rolled VT, that's all.

Also if I'd be scum, I'd concede by now.
boxerfred
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July 30 2015 11:03 GMT
#1473
snickers what about your shitty "clarity is medic" thing now?
boxerfred
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July 30 2015 17:22 GMT
#1482
fine with snickers, love the case . arguably I'm a good lynch for reasons so if someone would bother asking me questions, I'm here.

60/70.
boxerfred
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July 30 2015 17:25 GMT
#1483
Now really, even if I'm mislynched this game, I don't exactly understand what makes me scum. Is it my voting outside of the scum wagons only? I'll ask that again post-game.
boxerfred
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July 31 2015 08:25 GMT
#1544
On July 31 2015 15:34 GlowingBear wrote:
6/80

Slam votes Snickers:

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 30 2015 03:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 02:57 Snickers wrote:
GIVE ME MORE FUCKING POSTS AND ILL FUCKING EXPLAIN IT FOR THE SECOND TIME IN FUCKING DETIAL AND I ALREADY EXPLAINED IT ONCE IN SMALL DETAIL

HE WAS ALREADY TALKING ABOUT SAVING ME EARLY IN THE FUCKING DAY AND THEN HE PUT HIS LIST POSTS DOWN AND TITLED IT TOWN AND FUCKING SAID "SNICKERS (LOL)" ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR HIM TO FUCKING DO THAT. ALSO HE KNEW HE COULDNT PLAY AND WAS TRYING TO AVOID BEING LYNCHED. SO HE TOLD THE VIGI TO SHOOT HIM THAT WAY PEOPLE WOULD LEAVE HIM ALONE FOR TWO DAYS EVEN WITHOUT HIM TYPING. HE WAS PLANNING TO RETURN TONIGHT BUT I THINK MAYBE SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS HAPPENED AND HE WILL ACTUALLY GET MODKILLED THAT WHY I STARTED TALKING ABOUT HIS ROLE CAUSE IT WILL BE USELESS WHEN HE GETS MODKILLED. I THOUGHT THE SCUM TEAM WOULD BE SMART ENOUGH TO REALIZE THAT HE IS A ROLE IF I PUT IT INTO THE THREAD BUT NOT SMART ENOUGH TO REALIZE IF HE GETS MODKILLED THEY WASTED THIER FUCKING KILL. ITS PRTY FUCKING OBVIOUS.

GG COME AGAIN THANKS FOR PLAYING

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On July 30 2015 02:57 Snickers wrote:
GIVE ME MORE FUCKING POSTS AND ILL FUCKING EXPLAIN IT FOR THE SECOND TIME IN FUCKING DETIAL AND I ALREADY EXPLAINED IT ONCE IN SMALL DETAIL


FUCK DUCK SHIT ASS SHOT BITCH MORE POSTS I CNAT EXPLAIN SHIT BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH POST

##Donate: 10 posts Snickers

I am coming to call your bullshit. You have posts now.

BUT HOW ABOUT THIS

UOU STOP SHITTING UP THE THREAD AND CONSOLIDATE ONE LONG, CLEAN, LOWERCASE POST MAKING USE OF SPOILERS SO THAT IT LOOKS CLEAN AND READABLE AND EXPLAIN WHATEVER SHIT UOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

this way you will be readable, and get your point across.

For now, since it looks like a big emotional act to look like you should be excused for shit,

##Vote: Snickers

Man up, be town, perform. Or my vote stays because I have an exam tomorrow and barely have any time.

See you all in depth tomorrow afternoon!


Notices boxer, calls him possible mafia with snickers, does not drop a vote on boxer who was my counterwagon:

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On July 30 2015 03:23 Alakaslam wrote:
See, boxer thinks whining about me coming late is a legit excuse to waste a post and snickers also feels this is just A-OK when he has a wealth of posts now, versus explaining his shit and chilling out on the posts- nope, he goes wasting them

Classic mafia post restriction game play, prove me wrong I dare you


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On July 30 2015 03:21 Alakaslam wrote:
And I see bitching/whining from boxer and dismissal from snickers.

Sea, did I just find the team without even reading the thread?


Votes me, boxer's counterwagon, out of bullshit

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 30 2015 03:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 03:38 Palmar wrote:
Hey slam, can you fix the game please? These people broke it.

Apparently not.

And fuck.

I need to give this more thought when it's not 40 minutes before my final prep class. This really bites.

Be back after some hours.

Voting Glowingbear because he was the other one arguing madness and is the current wagon. My excuses are actual excuses, hence no time to read much (even had to duck out. I am playing purely from the toilet due to need to study) and apparently the blue shit is already out of the can. Whoever tipped it needs to think about whether it really actually advances the game versus hindering it.

Thanks.

Note: I claim nothing; I am not telling who or what I am. Period.


Basically, if boxerfred wasn't mafia, slam could've just wasted his vote on Snickers. He preferred to vote me exactly when boxerfred's wagon was getting traction (see timestamps [14:51] - Hopeless claimed and boxer was gathering votes)

Well I think you can't count the vote on you as AI.

I mean he pushes me pretty hard which would be bussing if I'd be scum. Then, he votes you, which too could be bussing.
TBH I have no idea where to locate scum. I know I'm not but I do agree that I'm a decent lynch. However as I know that I will flip town, I really want to get you guys to use, and not waste this cycle! I don't think snickers is scum. He's been so active in a dead/replaced scum team. More attention, more area that he can be attacked from? Scum actually can rely on a lot of active players to draw attention to: rsoul, snickers, GB, also I'll never be off the radar because I voted outside of both scum trains.

I strongly suggest to look into Onegu and OWS this cycle, make them talk! Even if you end up lynching me or snickers. As for me, I can tell you that I'm not scum but VT. I think apart from my voting, my filter does not have too many scum indicators but instead shows that I am town:

1.

I placed my vote D1 and did not let go of it. I was on the scott train, as the first(!) person to do so. Yes, Tofu joined that train but he had to to try to avert himself being lynched. Clarity in the meantime voted Hopeless. Why wouldn't he just place his vote on scott, too, as scum me did? He was long enough in the thread to do so, or to check scum qt where Tofu and me would've told him to vote the scott train.

2.

While my vote reasoning D1 might be questionable (just as any D1 vote potentially is), my vote reasoning D2 was actually good. My case on GB wasn't something stupid or made up, no. It was good reasoning, pointing out lots of soft defendings towards Tofu and people said that it was a good case! Given that I am not the most experienced player and also tend to go emotional and make wrong calls, do you think mafia boxerfred is able to construct such a case? Rsoul, step up and judge this, you played Gaiden with town me, as scum.

3.

I am not believing the Onegu claim. As a scum member, why shouldn't I just follow thread sentiment and say "well he's confirmed town"? Instead I am doubtful. As rsoul already pointed out: Onegu is doing absolutely NOTHING for town. However people let him lurk and lurk and lurk. I pointed that out several times.

4.

I even switched to the clarity train for some time, with decent reasoning D2. Basically it was "look, we're not sure on Hopeless, so let's go for a policy lynch on afk/lurkers". At this point, Clarity hadn't been replaced yet. This didn't take off, so I went back to - my ORIGINAL vote. I could've jumped the Hopeless train at ANY point but I didn't do it.

5.

Wenn Slam replaced, he INSTANTLY went at me and snickers, favouring me for his vote. Please check my reaction there, it was genuinely emotional. I was pissed. AND I read that as scum behaviour, which was correct!

On July 30 2015 03:27 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 03:23 Alakaslam wrote:
See, boxer thinks whining about me coming late is a legit excuse to waste a post and snickers also feels this is just A-OK when he has a wealth of posts now, versus explaining his shit and chilling out on the posts- nope, he goes wasting them

Classic mafia post restriction game play, prove me wrong I dare you

Yeah and I played in 100 post restriction games already so this is exactly my tactic. Read the fucking rest, I've been pissed the whole day.

You know what I don't like?

1. "I'll be back next day and read up"
2. "Those two guys are scum because I just read two posts of them"

This is a great way to come back in a game when you just replaced a scum player who was under pressure anyways.

I can see clarity/GB scum team.


When Kelsier started shennanies, I didn't do ANYTHING to stop it! Wouldn't I at least try if I was the remaining scum member and around at that time? I didn't do anything AGAINST the D1 lynch, only left my vote on scott. I didn't do anything AGAINST the D2 lynch, only left my vote on (I think) GB.

So much for defense. I'm down to a snickers lynch simply to stay alive.




Please use the day. I'll flip town, don't waste a cycle. We can still make people post, get information.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 31 2015 08:29 GMT
#1545
EBWOP:

Why should I vote the counterwagon to scum D1 but not D2 when it was even more important?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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July 31 2015 08:33 GMT
#1546
Also I think snickers and me actually shouldn't fight each other over who gets lynched now. We should both take it like men and instead do something useful. :x
boxerfred
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July 31 2015 08:34 GMT
#1547
4/80
boxerfred
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July 31 2015 08:45 GMT
#1548
Also I killed no lion so don't pull a Walter P. on me.

+ Show Spoiler +
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boxerfred
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July 31 2015 09:14 GMT
#1550
On July 31 2015 18:11 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 17:33 boxerfred wrote:
Also I think snickers and me actually shouldn't fight each other over who gets lynched now. We should both take it like men and instead do something useful. :x

I think you're both town.

I kinda wanna stick with my GB read. 6/80
boxerfred
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July 31 2015 09:18 GMT
#1551
Or wait, GB joined the shennanies. I'm actually being stupid here. Obi is the thing.
boxerfred
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July 31 2015 17:46 GMT
#1555
I mean it's even possible for scum to hardcore bus via voting early on since it wasn't clear if there'd be a replacement at all for clarity for a long time. I don't want to greenread GB yet.
boxerfred
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August 01 2015 08:23 GMT
#1613
What the hell snickers
boxerfred
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August 02 2015 05:25 GMT
#1639
for all I know, I'm not scum. For all I guess, scum is most likely to be palmar. For my flip, prepare your false acts of "damn we were wrong"
boxerfred
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August 02 2015 05:26 GMT
#1640
Basically I repeat what I said last day: instead of "lynch boxer/snickers because they voted off the scum wagons" you might actually consider to do something useful and read the thread. the day cycle was completely wasted. people like palmar and kelsier are making it way too easy for themselves.
boxerfred
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August 02 2015 05:27 GMT
#1641
I think I'm a great vig shot target btw, if there is one in. would make town people play the game again.
boxerfred
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August 02 2015 10:31 GMT
#1643
I expect apologies once I flip green.
boxerfred
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August 02 2015 17:46 GMT
#1656
well i concede

boxerfred
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August 02 2015 18:18 GMT
#1662
nah guys I'm not conceding since I'm not fucking scum -.- I don't even know if that was a legit play so I apologize in advance.
boxerfred
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August 02 2015 18:23 GMT
#1664
Apart from my voting, there is no reason to scumread me. Seriously.

Also apart from rsoultin, noone explained why they'd vote me. Noone asked me a single question. I mean okay, great, but if you'd actually have to provide reasons why I'm scum, and force EVERYONE to do it, you guys would at least have some information once I flip.

Also vigi fucking shoot me and no, this is not a bad or scummy post. A vigi shot would be the best way to make town actually think about who the fuck is scum and remove the easy lynch opportunity that scum has in me.
boxerfred
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August 02 2015 18:34 GMT
#1667
On August 03 2015 03:28 rsoultin wrote:
you know, bf...i am going to laugh so hard if you're scum this game

"i concede"

"jk"

boxerfred the mafia xxx has been lynched

lolol ><

stop pretending you don't know I'm town. I'm not believing you and ironically due to your post - I think you're the last scum.
boxerfred
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August 02 2015 19:41 GMT
#1673
On August 03 2015 03:41 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2015 03:34 boxerfred wrote:
On August 03 2015 03:28 rsoultin wrote:
you know, bf...i am going to laugh so hard if you're scum this game

"i concede"

"jk"

boxerfred the mafia xxx has been lynched

lolol ><

stop pretending you don't know I'm town. I'm not believing you and ironically due to your post - I think you're the last scum.


in fact trying desperately to call rsoultin mafia based on that post confirms to me that you are desperately trying to find other people to call scum now.

vote bf tomorrow.

wanna do a sigbet?
boxerfred
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August 02 2015 19:43 GMT
#1674
On August 03 2015 03:57 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2015 03:34 boxerfred wrote:
On August 03 2015 03:28 rsoultin wrote:
you know, bf...i am going to laugh so hard if you're scum this game

"i concede"

"jk"

boxerfred the mafia xxx has been lynched

lolol ><

stop pretending you don't know I'm town. I'm not believing you and ironically due to your post - I think you're the last scum.


i've been very clear about what i think throughout this game. i think you're the most likely to flip scum of those still in the game, for all the reasons i've outlined

pretending i don't know you're town? lol >< the only way i could possibly know you're town if you really are town would be if i were scum

way to circular reason

you play down the voting thing, you ignore the part about desperately trying to find scum anywhere but you instead of narrowing down your scumreads to one lynch. if you're town this game your contribution is null

trying to find out if anyone but palmar would lynch me? palmar and onegu will, and maybe not oneg...can't really tell with him right now, though he'd jump at the chance most games just for lolz. look how helpful i'm being ^^ does that help you plan your nks?

Well time for some martyring. I asked you to use the last day already, you guys didn't, not at all. you have two mislynches, namely snickers and me, and then you have 2 cycles with zero additional information. great job, town.

blah im out.
boxerfred
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August 02 2015 20:30 GMT
#1677
On August 03 2015 05:06 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2015 04:43 boxerfred wrote:
On August 03 2015 03:57 rsoultin wrote:
On August 03 2015 03:34 boxerfred wrote:
On August 03 2015 03:28 rsoultin wrote:
you know, bf...i am going to laugh so hard if you're scum this game

"i concede"

"jk"

boxerfred the mafia xxx has been lynched

lolol ><

stop pretending you don't know I'm town. I'm not believing you and ironically due to your post - I think you're the last scum.


i've been very clear about what i think throughout this game. i think you're the most likely to flip scum of those still in the game, for all the reasons i've outlined

pretending i don't know you're town? lol >< the only way i could possibly know you're town if you really are town would be if i were scum

way to circular reason

you play down the voting thing, you ignore the part about desperately trying to find scum anywhere but you instead of narrowing down your scumreads to one lynch. if you're town this game your contribution is null

trying to find out if anyone but palmar would lynch me? palmar and onegu will, and maybe not oneg...can't really tell with him right now, though he'd jump at the chance most games just for lolz. look how helpful i'm being ^^ does that help you plan your nks?

Well time for some martyring. I asked you to use the last day already, you guys didn't, not at all. you have two mislynches, namely snickers and me, and then you have 2 cycles with zero additional information. great job, town.

blah im out.


no because i'm not 12

bullshit

reconsider your vote, at least TRY to contribute. I mean I loved your slam shenannies but now you're doing absolutely nothing helpful. I will flip town. I made a big post why. I voted outside of both scum wagons, fine. I think I showed already in Gaiden that I am not a good player. Start using your freaking brains this game will not be over in 24 or 48 hours if I'm the lynch.
boxerfred
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August 02 2015 21:49 GMT
#1689
Could Kelsier pull a "I'll lynch my scum teammate slam" play for town creds over 9000?

I'll locate scum at scott, obi, gb.

Since I've been totally wrong thus far, I 180 this and say I locate scum between kelsier, rsoul and palmar. #yolo
boxerfred
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August 03 2015 11:15 GMT
#1746
are you guys saying you're all greens or what
boxerfred
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August 03 2015 11:26 GMT
#1748
How am I bluehunting if the two power roles are known in Onegu who claimed and a cop? Could you stop subtly making up reasons to lynch me?

Rsoul imagine I was dead and I flipped green. Who would you scumread of all players alive?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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August 03 2015 11:29 GMT
#1749
If I remember correctly, Kelsier scumread rsoul for a tone thing, didn't he? He dropped that totally, in favor of me and snickers. So wouldn't a scum rsoul pick a kelsier NK? I mean it would be awesome, people would think that I'm scum since kelsier just voted snickers and I had to fear that he'd vote me the same way, eh? Plus it would kill the person who'd probably go for a rsoul lynch, too.

boxerfred
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August 03 2015 11:29 GMT
#1750
Like, everyone, just answer this: without taking me into consideration, who are your top scum reads and why? This is the question you guys gotta answer once I'm dead anyways.
boxerfred
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August 03 2015 11:49 GMT
#1753
On August 03 2015 20:41 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2015 20:15 boxerfred wrote:
are you guys saying you're all greens or what


what is the purpose of this question, bf?


it's a rethorical question since I did not have the idea that everyone is VT at this point. I was fond of the idea of having a GF around but I'd expect another blue role then besides a named town.
boxerfred
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August 03 2015 11:50 GMT
#1754
On August 03 2015 20:40 rsoultin wrote:
-_- you do realize that gb, ows and i are all voting for palmar?

are you reading at all? i made a case on palmar. care to comment on that? care to comment on your own scumreads? ksc has been reading me town practically all game cause he's not a moron, and i've been confirmed town to him ever since d2. if you think i'd nk him...i don't even know -_- but that's wifom and i don't generally use shit like that to defend myself

you do realize that i'm about as confirmed town as ksc was? i find it mind-boggling that people would even consider that i'd start shenanigans on a partner when i could have just insisted on you instead since snickers was insisting he was blue and so few people seemed to want to lynch him

tbh I didn't check the voting thread. I'm posting from work, and I'm stuck at "let's lynch bf". while I caught up on the thread, I didn't expect people to actually vote palmar :x.

Okay, I'll be back later, actually playing the game instead of just shitting up the thread which I am admittingly doing right now.
boxerfred
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August 03 2015 18:26 GMT
#1772
Final Day 2 Vote Count


Alakaslam (5): KelsierSC, KelsierSC, KelsierSC, rsoultin, GlowingBear, Hopeless1der, rsoultin, GlowingBear, Palmar
GlowingBear (4): boxerfred, scott31337, Snickers, boxerfred, scott31337, KelsierSC, Alakaslam, KelsierSC
boxerfred (2): Onegu, Hopeless1der, rsoultin, KelsierSC, ObiWanShinobi, GlowingBear, GlowingBear, rsoultin
Hopeless1der (0): Palmar, KelsierSC, ObiWanShinobi, rsoultin, boxerfred, scott31337
scott31337 (0): ObiWanShinobi
KelsierSC (0): GlowingBear , ObiWanShinobi
Snickers (0): Alakaslam
Palmar (0): GlowingBear, Snickers, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, GlowingBear
rsoultin (0): Palmar, scott31337, Onegu, Palmar

Posting this as a note. Gimme a sec to follow up.
boxerfred
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August 03 2015 18:33 GMT
#1773
So. I say we are not lynching between rsoul, GB and Palmar. One vote was enough to get GB lynched so scum MUST be amonth the guys that did not vote Slam.

Snickers is dead. That leaves me, scott, OWS, Onegu. Right? Right?
Given that I am town (expect my voting apart from the train, there's no freaking way I'm scum. I dare you guys to point out any scum indicators that are not fabricated), we're down to OWS, Scott and/or Onegu. Scott got a lot of town things going for him. Onegu claimed and since then never gave a fuck about the game.

So you guys have a "close-to-lylo" vote here. You can lynch me - I made a case on GB which admittedly I think is wrong by now, but hey, I put in effort. It's a decent case, not constructed at all, and I think people can easily go back to that post and analyize it. I even re-quoted my case. Also, if you guys remember, town snickers had the same thoughts at some point so it couldn't have been that wrong.

Next up, Scott. I townread scott for reasons that were named already. I think I'm not alone with that read.

Then, Onegu. Onegu claimed. Given that it seems reasonable that we have 2 blue roles only and no blue role did claim by now, I think his claim is legit and believable. Plus, he voted Tofu D1.

That leaves it to OWS. What has OWS done in this game? I don't think too much. So here's my suggestion: lynch OWS. I'll place my vote on him.

Also, if you see this:

On August 04 2015 00:29 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 4 Vote Count


Palmar (3): rsoultin, GlowingBear, ObiWanShinobi
rsoultin (1): Palmar
boxerfred (0): ObiWanShinobi

Not Voting (3): Onegu, scott31337, boxerfred,

As the wind blows, Palmar is staring death in the face.
Day 4 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
The live voting tracker is located here.
Please FORMAT YOUR VOTES CORRECTLY in the voting thread or the script will not pick your vote up!


You see that OWS started with a vote on me - the guy who was the most likely lynch this day. Then, he wents on Palmar. On PALMAR! The guy that swung the vote on the scum, being the 5th guy to hammer scum, being the deciding vote. He could've hammered GB. Easily.

So, guys, please lynch OWS and the game is most likely to end IMHO.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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August 03 2015 18:40 GMT
#1776
On August 04 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 03:33 boxerfred wrote:
So. I say we are not lynching between rsoul, GB and Palmar. One vote was enough to get GB lynched so scum MUST be amonth the guys that did not vote Slam.

Snickers is dead. That leaves me, scott, OWS, Onegu. Right? Right?
Given that I am town (expect my voting apart from the train, there's no freaking way I'm scum. I dare you guys to point out any scum indicators that are not fabricated), we're down to OWS, Scott and/or Onegu. Scott got a lot of town things going for him. Onegu claimed and since then never gave a fuck about the game.

So you guys have a "close-to-lylo" vote here. You can lynch me - I made a case on GB which admittedly I think is wrong by now, but hey, I put in effort. It's a decent case, not constructed at all, and I think people can easily go back to that post and analyize it. I even re-quoted my case. Also, if you guys remember, town snickers had the same thoughts at some point so it couldn't have been that wrong.

Next up, Scott. I townread scott for reasons that were named already. I think I'm not alone with that read.

Then, Onegu. Onegu claimed. Given that it seems reasonable that we have 2 blue roles only and no blue role did claim by now, I think his claim is legit and believable. Plus, he voted Tofu D1.

That leaves it to OWS. What has OWS done in this game? I don't think too much. So here's my suggestion: lynch OWS. I'll place my vote on him.

Also, if you see this:

On August 04 2015 00:29 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 4 Vote Count


Palmar (3): rsoultin, GlowingBear, ObiWanShinobi
rsoultin (1): Palmar
boxerfred (0): ObiWanShinobi

Not Voting (3): Onegu, scott31337, boxerfred,

As the wind blows, Palmar is staring death in the face.
Day 4 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
The live voting tracker is located here.
Please FORMAT YOUR VOTES CORRECTLY in the voting thread or the script will not pick your vote up!


You see that OWS started with a vote on me - the guy who was the most likely lynch this day. Then, he wents on Palmar. On PALMAR! The guy that swung the vote on the scum, being the 5th guy to hammer scum, being the deciding vote. He could've hammered GB. Easily.

So, guys, please lynch OWS and the game is most likely to end IMHO.


...

it is so obvious you're not reading it's painful. at the same time, you didn't read last game either, so i don't know where that leaves me -_-

i wrote the case on palmar. read it. stop saying ows is scum for voting on palmar (what about me and gb) or onegu voted tofu (what about ows?) like...seriously -_-

I read it. There's still nothing that would make me vote someone who hammered scum, being the deciding vote.
boxerfred
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August 03 2015 19:01 GMT
#1779
point 2 is fabricated. that's it.
boxerfred
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August 03 2015 19:05 GMT
#1781
Nah I do understand it but I used it incorrectly. It's constructed although not fabricated in terms of "made up because you're scum". I feel like you're trying to make reality match your thoughts. You're thinking in a very complicated way. I do not think that the game is that complicated tbh, sometimes it's the easy things.

Given that Palmar is your top scum read, would you mind lynching OWS and if he flips town, Palmar?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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August 03 2015 19:12 GMT
#1784
Well go ahead, lynch Palmar. I mean it's win/win then. If Palmar is the last scum, great. if he flips town, we lynch OWS.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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August 03 2015 19:13 GMT
#1785
I'll keep my D1/D2 tradition. If I'm wrong on OWS too, well then I missed 3/3 scum wagons which will be great for my future scum meta.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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August 03 2015 20:13 GMT
#1787
I do care Oo. It's just that you say "Palmar" and I say "OWS".
boxerfred
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August 03 2015 20:52 GMT
#1789
On August 04 2015 05:19 rsoultin wrote:
you have no good reason to lynch ows -_-


On August 04 2015 03:33 boxerfred wrote:
So. I say we are not lynching between rsoul, GB and Palmar. One vote was enough to get GB lynched so scum MUST be amonth the guys that did not vote Slam.

Snickers is dead. That leaves me, scott, OWS, Onegu. Right? Right?
Given that I am town (expect my voting apart from the train, there's no freaking way I'm scum. I dare you guys to point out any scum indicators that are not fabricated), we're down to OWS, Scott and/or Onegu. Scott got a lot of town things going for him. Onegu claimed and since then never gave a fuck about the game.

So you guys have a "close-to-lylo" vote here. You can lynch me - I made a case on GB which admittedly I think is wrong by now, but hey, I put in effort. It's a decent case, not constructed at all, and I think people can easily go back to that post and analyize it. I even re-quoted my case. Also, if you guys remember, town snickers had the same thoughts at some point so it couldn't have been that wrong.

Next up, Scott. I townread scott for reasons that were named already. I think I'm not alone with that read.

Then, Onegu. Onegu claimed. Given that it seems reasonable that we have 2 blue roles only and no blue role did claim by now, I think his claim is legit and believable. Plus, he voted Tofu D1.

That leaves it to OWS. What has OWS done in this game? I don't think too much. So here's my suggestion: lynch OWS. I'll place my vote on him.

Also, if you see this:

Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 00:29 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 4 Vote Count


Palmar (3): rsoultin, GlowingBear, ObiWanShinobi
rsoultin (1): Palmar
boxerfred (0): ObiWanShinobi

Not Voting (3): Onegu, scott31337, boxerfred,

As the wind blows, Palmar is staring death in the face.
Day 4 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
The live voting tracker is located here.
Please FORMAT YOUR VOTES CORRECTLY in the voting thread or the script will not pick your vote up!


You see that OWS started with a vote on me - the guy who was the most likely lynch this day. Then, he wents on Palmar. On PALMAR! The guy that swung the vote on the scum, being the 5th guy to hammer scum, being the deciding vote. He could've hammered GB. Easily.

So, guys, please lynch OWS and the game is most likely to end IMHO.

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 03 2015 21:45 GMT
#1792
your vote is a joke. you're voting me over your scumread.
boxerfred
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August 04 2015 05:34 GMT
#1799
On August 04 2015 06:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Boxer what do you think about us lynching you to get the doubt out of the way in LYLO so people can proper reevaluate their townreads?

I mean, nobody will be comfortable to lynch their townreads when they have you on the back of their heads.

Do we have enough lynches for OWS AND Palmar or only for one of them?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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August 04 2015 08:06 GMT
#1801
Just promise me to lynch ows after me. It you guys need to lynch palmar first, okay. Do we have two mislynches left?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
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August 04 2015 13:31 GMT
#1811
This game is actually winnable for scum. Seriously, Hammer ows. I even see more scum in scott than palmar at this point.
boxerfred
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August 04 2015 21:18 GMT
#1864
You guys need to watch OWS. He has done nothing over the last days. He's only asking questions without leading to a point. He didn't hammer on scum. He votes on literally any wagon that's available, being fine with any lynch.
Yet for some reason, you guys are voting me. Rsoul you're "this game sucks ass" shit is exactly that, shit. You're not doing jackshit, you're tunneling on Palmar who was the DECIDING VOTE on slam. You're voting me for the same exact reasons that you voted snickers for. That's plain bullshit. The only way to win this game IMHO is to lynch OWS. If that does not work, go for Rsoul/Palmar.

Please, GB, put some effort in and re-read what OWS has done ever since Slam got lynched. Look at his votes D1 and D2.

I'm outta here.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 04 2015 21:22 GMT
#1871
On August 05 2015 06:20 rsoultin wrote:
the rsoul is finally happy ^^

also, bf confirmed not reading \o/

You're responsible for a mislynch, partially for the snickers lynch as well. Shut up.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 04 2015 21:23 GMT
#1872
whoa fuck this lynch me already.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 04 2015 21:25 GMT
#1875
So great how you guys are lynching me for "he didn't vote any scum" only

#sickplays
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 04 2015 21:28 GMT
#1876
I bussed the shit out of my scum teammates in my first and only scum game ever you tards. #justsaying

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 04 2015 21:28 GMT
#1878
On August 05 2015 06:28 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 06:25 boxerfred wrote:
So great how you guys are lynching me for "he didn't vote any scum" only

#sickplays

So next game you should try to vote some scum to avoid this situation!

This is so frustrating right now that there probably won't be a next game anytime soon.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 04 2015 21:50 GMT
#1888
You guys are pure shit with one genius scum OWS.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 04 2015 21:52 GMT
#1889
"Let's lynch a player without reasons although we'd lynch someone else" GB?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 04 2015 21:52 GMT
#1890
ah screw it

HEY THERE PEOPLE I'M BOBBY BROWN
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 04 2015 21:52 GMT
#1891
THEY SAY I'M THE CUTEST BOY IN TOWN
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 04 2015 21:52 GMT
#1892
hahahaha now I concede for real
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 04 2015 22:18 GMT
#1908
LOOK HOW I CONCEDED

gg rofl #rsoultinSickPlays
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 10 2015 22:45 GMT
#2453
While I sucked at scumhunting, I didn't think too much at establishing myself as town. I was really surprised to be lynched in that position.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 18 2015 12:46 GMT
#2498
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 19 2015 09:47 GMT
#2504
Re-watched the fluff. I'm a fully qualified aussie now.
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