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On July 16 2015 04:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 04:17 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I wouldn't have posted about Grokken if he wasn't the scummiest person on my list. Don't spin it as "just because I couldn't pick anyone else". There's nothing that I said that should make you discount the argument. I'm keeping my vote there for a reason. What I disliked about that post was how you did everything that you criticized Grokken for.
Not so. My main criticism was that he voted for me as soon as he saw a good case was being made against me, and then decided that a short paragraph was enough to constitute that vote. If he started the argument I wouldn't really bother about it, and if he waited until Fidei himself had decided that I was guilty enough to vote, I wouldn't have noticed it either. What he did to me was see an opening and be proactive about it to protect himself and his filter. He looked like someone who was just waiting for someone to hop off of his Scumbuddy TJ's bandwagon. I've voted for you and Grokken, and at the time I voted those, nobody was talking about either of you. You in particular had been investigated before, but the argument had more or less been put to rest.
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On July 16 2015 02:30 Tictock wrote:
Pretty sad that there has been such little posting since I went to bed.
You don't have to like it, but if you think Ghandi/TJ is the likely scum team, then you can't really be too surprised that the thread died. It would mean that all 9 of the Town votes had been stacked up on scum. Ghandi makes some effort to make another player or two look bad (so that maybe they will emerge as a lynch candidate in the place of himself and TJ) but every time he says something, people tell him it just makes him look worse, and not better. So not too shocking that he went silent for a while. TJ might be so butthurt about Moosy's self-vote not counting that he can't even be bothered to defend himself at all.
On July 16 2015 02:30 Tictock wrote:Also TJ has effectively disappeared from the game...
So he's got suspicious behavior during Day 1, followed by low activity and unfulfilled promises on Day 2? That sounds like someone I'd be excited to lynch.
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@Ghandi:
1) If possible, please elaborate on what made you so confident in Scott being Town.
2) If possible, please explain why you said you weren't sold enough yet to vote against Moosy, and then voted against him (in the same post).
3) If possible, please explain what you dislike so much about my filter, which causes you to rank me as a neutral read, even though I posted the vote that buried Sulfurus.
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On July 16 2015 04:33 n00bKing wrote:
@Ghandi:
1) If possible, please elaborate on what made you so confident in Scott being Town.
2) If possible, please explain why you said you weren't sold enough yet to vote against Moosy, and then voted against him (in the same post).
3) If possible, please explain what you dislike so much about my filter, which causes you to rank me as a neutral read, even though I posted the vote that buried Sulfurus.
1) What made me confident that Scott was town is because he was an experienced mafia player (supposedly; Onegu kind of ballsed up the list). To me, it would seem like an experienced mafia player would want to, in some capacity, play the game. If he were picked as scum, he'd almost definitely be more engaged, but if he got a role like Vanilla Town, I could understand him more or less AFKing out of disinterest. Honestly I can't see someone noticing that they're mafia and just deciding that they'd rather not post than actually try and win the game. Why sign up at all if you don't want to play?
2) That was just a failure to communicate. I meant to say that I didn't want to lynch Moosy, but I was ok with keeping a vote on him if it got him to talk and act like an actual member of the town.
3) Just vague vibes on the way you were posting. I didn't write a lot about it because there wasn't much of substance there, just gut. It's similar to the way you said
On July 13 2015 07:53 n00bKing wrote:, I am also randomly townreading GhandiEAGLE for some reason or other.
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On July 16 2015 05:01 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
1) What made me confident that Scott was town is because he was an experienced mafia player (supposedly; Onegu kind of ballsed up the list). To me, it would seem like an experienced mafia player would want to, in some capacity, play the game. If he were picked as scum, he'd almost definitely be more engaged, but if he got a role like Vanilla Town, I could understand him more or less AFKing out of disinterest. Honestly I can't see someone noticing that they're mafia and just deciding that they'd rather not post than actually try and win the game. Why sign up at all if you don't want to play?
Have you played any other games with Scott that you can reasonably make that conclusion about him? Because there are plenty of people that lurk as scum on this forum that have way more experience than he. In fact you'll find in a number of veteran games a number of people will just not play as scum, or try in some difficulty before the team busses them. How are you rationalising that one faction would be more motivated than another, let alone a specific player if you don't have experience with him?
Most town are more motivated by solving the puzzle than trying to deceive, though some do the latter pretty well.
You also are wanting Grokken to be lynched. Who do you think is his teammate and why?
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On July 16 2015 05:01 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
1) What made me confident that Scott was town is because he was an experienced mafia player (supposedly; Onegu kind of ballsed up the list). To me, it would seem like an experienced mafia player would want to, in some capacity, play the game. If he were picked as scum, he'd almost definitely be more engaged, but if he got a role like Vanilla Town, I could understand him more or less AFKing out of disinterest. Honestly I can't see someone noticing that they're mafia and just deciding that they'd rather not post than actually try and win the game. Why sign up at all if you don't want to play?
Scott was lynched (as Mafia Roleblocker) on Day 1 of Newbie X, largely because he was AFKing. But maybe you didn't know that. Well, there's an example of Mafia AFK'ing in THIS game too. Sulfurus was lynched (as Mafia Godfather) on Day 1, and had all of 5 posts when he flipped Red. 5. Five. Five posts, I said. Additionally, "Why sign up at all if you don't want to play?" was all I could think, when watching Moosy in this game. But you were okay with voting against HIM, while randomly townreading Scott. I just feel like your reads are determined more by game circumstances than they are by post content.
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In the off chance that we are on the complete wrong track here I have a tinfoil hat theory that might become relevant later.
1 Hour to go and still no sign of TJ...
Are we all happy with the choices we have made today?
Also... that mind-meld from Hts and n00b. Exactly my thoughts on GE's post there so I'm thankful for not having to articulate them ^.^
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On July 16 2015 05:59 Tictock wrote:
In the off chance that we are on the complete wrong track here I have a tinfoil hat theory that might become relevant later.
1 Hour to go and still no sign of TJ...
Are we all happy with the choices we have made today?
Also... that mind-meld from Hts and n00b. Exactly my thoughts on GE's post there so I'm thankful for not having to articulate them ^.^
^this 
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I am formulating some tinfoil hat theories as well but I really hope we don't have to go down that path. Yet.
I am treating TJ's absence as NAI, and really only taking his gameplay up to the point he went AFK into consideration btw.
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Still nothing from TJH.. He either doesn't feel the need tot defend himself or is really afk.. Ghandi and Scott are still the most scummy to me. (Posting from mobile)
##unvote
##vote GhandiEagle
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FYI
GhandiEAGLE(4): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior
TJHuggins(4): Noobking, MoosyDoosy, WonnaPlay, scott31337
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE
scott31337 (1): Tictock
Not Voting(1): TJHuggins
Per tiebreaker rules TJH most recently had more votes, so he gets lynched regardless of warning.
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Annnnnnnddddddd ninjaed.........WP just hammered.
GhandiEAGLE(5): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay
TJHuggins(4): Noobking, MoosyDoosy, scott31337
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE
scott31337 (1): Tictock
Not Voting(1): TJHuggins
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On July 16 2015 06:24 Half the Sky wrote:
Annnnnnnddddddd ninjaed.........WP just hammered.
GhandiEAGLE(5): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay
TJHuggins(4): Noobking, MoosyDoosy, scott31337
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE
scott31337 (1): Tictock
Not Voting(1): TJHuggins
TJ is actually at 3 votes. I'll be around at the deadline to countersnipe, if needed. But I won't break my back trying to talk anyone into switching off of Ghandi and onto TJ. Ghandi is a pretty good lynch, I think. And if he flips Town, we won't have to feel TOO sad about it, because it's so likely we would have lynched him sooner or later anyway.
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Ehh clearly nobody was into my shenenigans play.
##Unvote
##Vote: GhandiEagle
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Day 2 Vote Count
GhandiEAGLE(6): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay ,Ticktock
TJHuggins(3): Noobking, MoosyDoosy, scott31337
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE
Not Voting(1): , TJHuggins
Reminder Voting is done here.
It is mandatory to vote. Not doing so will result in a warning a second non vote will result in a modkill and action taken against you in the Mafia ban thread.
Currently GhandiEAGLE is set to be lynched with 6 votes.
Day 1 ends in
PLEASE REMEMBER THAT IT IS MANDATORY TO VOTE.
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IF GE is town then this will get harder but not terrible yet. I still think that D1 wagon is pure based on the timing and speed of the wagon and now that we know KSC is confirmed. I'm more concerned about some of the earlier nullish reads I had if this is a mislynch.
Unless scum n00b or Fidei decided to yolo d1......nah I'm not going down that road yet 
/tinfoil
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To be fair even if GE is scum, I will have a tougher time deciding between Scott and TJH because there are associations for both.
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Be sure to use correct voting format
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On July 16 2015 06:47 Half the Sky wrote:
To be fair even if GE is scum, I will have a tougher time deciding between Scott and TJH because there are associations for both.
I won't have a tougher time. But if GE is scum, it won't really matter. We should have time to hang them both. And silentwarrior too, even. If GE is scum, we have to be REALLY far off base to still lose somehow.
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Night 2
GhandiEAGLE the Vanilla Town has been lynched
Please submit your night actions to all hosts.
Night ends in
TJhuggins have been warned for failing to vote.
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EPT
