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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
July 15 2015 22:00 GMT
#561
Day 2 Final Vote Count


GhandiEAGLE(7): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay ,Ticktock, MoosyDoosy
TJHuggins(2): Noobking, scott31337
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE


Not Voting(1): , TJHuggins

Reminder Voting is done here.

It is mandatory to vote. Not doing so will result in a warning a second non vote will result in a modkill and action taken against you in the Mafia ban thread.

Currently GhandiEAGLE is set to be lynched with 7 votes.

Day 1 ends in



PLEASE REMEMBER THAT IT IS MANDATORY TO VOTE.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 22:03 GMT
#562
GGs GE.

We'll sort this out.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
July 15 2015 22:07 GMT
#563
Ugh.. that really sucks.

GE you said it yourself that you were being scum read for playing badly, so you should have fought more to explain to us your reads and try harder to prove you are town. Not just semi-roll over and make one post pushing your scum read. You never bothered to respond to why we didn't like your case on Grok, you never answered the questions I posted to you, and the point you made about your scott read was weak for the reasons HtS and n00b pointed out.

TJ is in no way off the hook, and now Scott looks much worse and needs to really step it up if he is town.

I kinda get what WP was saying about swapping off TJ to GE, it was kinda my thinking as well. Still you guys probably shouldn't just write off our vote switches.
I can take that responsibility.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 22:09 GMT
#564
Assumptions - Sulfurus wagon was a pure wagon.

Starting point VCA

Day 1

Sulfurus(4): Half the Sky, Fidei86, Kelsier SC, Noobking <--------likely pure wagon
MoosyDoosy(3): Grokken, TJHuggins, Sulfurus
NydusHerMain (1): silentwarrior
Fidei86(1): NydusHerMain

Not Voting(4): WonnaPlay, scott31337, GhandiEAGLE. MoosyDoosy

Day 2 <4h to EoD

GhandiEAGLE(4): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior
TJHuggins(4): Ticktock, Noobking, MoosyDoosy, WonnaPlay
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE

Not Voting(2): scott31337, TJHuggins

Day 2 <40m to EoD

GhandiEAGLE(5): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay
TJHuggins(4): Noobking, MoosyDoosy, scott31337
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE
scott31337 (1): Tictock

Not Voting(1): TJHuggins[/QUOTE]

Day 2 EoD

GhandiEAGLE(7): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay ,Ticktock, MoosyDoosy
TJHuggins(2): Noobking, scott31337
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE

Not Voting(1): TJHuggins
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
July 15 2015 22:11 GMT
#565
Oh MD ninja voted did he?

MD we need to start hearing about your reads man. You've been a terrible & unhelpful all game long and now it looks like you setup a last minuet vote switch to GE.

Actually MD is probably the best lynch tomorrow if he does not explain himself in solid detail. I would never bring him into MyLo or LyLo with the way he's been playing.

Scott is in that same boat, so between the 2 of them.

TJ at least had decent content D1.
I can take that responsibility.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 22:13 GMT
#566
On July 16 2015 07:07 Tictock wrote:
TJ is in no way off the hook, and now Scott looks much worse and needs to really step it up if he is town.

I kinda get what WP was saying about swapping off TJ to GE, it was kinda my thinking as well. Still you guys probably shouldn't just write off our vote switches.


Scott could have tried to distance himself from that vote given that a lot of people were scumreading him. He is experienced enough to know this. But it's realllllyyyy wifomy though and extremely high risk (assuming TJH is scum) given that scum are already down a player and he wouldn't stand a chance if he was the last scummer.

I think Scott is actually LESS likely to be scum here from a VCA standpoint. He could be, yes, but less likely.

Of course if TJH is town then Scott looks significantly worse.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 22:18 GMT
#567
On July 16 2015 07:11 Tictock wrote:
Oh MD ninja voted did he?

MD we need to start hearing about your reads man. You've been a terrible & unhelpful all game long and now it looks like you setup a last minuet vote switch to GE.

Actually MD is probably the best lynch tomorrow if he does not explain himself in solid detail. I would never bring him into MyLo or LyLo with the way he's been playing.

Scott is in that same boat, so between the 2 of them.

TJ at least had decent content D1.


Wrong, WonnaPlay hammered. What do you mean by MD set him up?

Ninjavoting is shite though.

But in your world, if MD is scum, it means he set up his own teammate Sulfurus to be lynched d1. Do you think he was faking his breadcrumbs and Sulfurus wanted to bus him d1? Why would a scum player purposely act scummy (referring to MD here)?

If MD and Sulfurus were scum, why would Sulfurus slip like he did d1? He could have just said nothing.

And TJ had content but some of it was questionable.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
July 15 2015 22:21 GMT
#568
On July 16 2015 07:13 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 07:07 Tictock wrote:
TJ is in no way off the hook, and now Scott looks much worse and needs to really step it up if he is town.

I kinda get what WP was saying about swapping off TJ to GE, it was kinda my thinking as well. Still you guys probably shouldn't just write off our vote switches.


Scott could have tried to distance himself from that vote given that a lot of people were scumreading him. He is experienced enough to know this. But it's realllllyyyy wifomy though and extremely high risk (assuming TJH is scum) given that scum are already down a player and he wouldn't stand a chance if he was the last scummer.

I think Scott is actually LESS likely to be scum here from a VCA standpoint. He could be, yes, but less likely.

Of course if TJH is town then Scott looks significantly worse.


Ehh, I see where you are coming from here, but to me Scott looks worse than TJ right now.

He has made several promises to us to give us more , and has failed to do so. The only decent posts he made where the ones where he was talking about D1 VCA stuff, which I think WP or n00b pointed out was an easy post to make as that was the general sentiment at the time.

What do you think about MD now HtS?
I can take that responsibility.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 22:24 GMT
#569
Assumptions - Sulfurus wagon was a pure wagon.

Starting point VCA

Day 1

Sulfurus(4): Half the Sky, Fidei86, Kelsier SC, Noobking <--------likely pure wagon
MoosyDoosy(3): Grokken, TJHuggins, Sulfurus
NydusHerMain (1): silentwarrior
Fidei86(1): NydusHerMain

Not Voting(4): WonnaPlay, scott31337, GhandiEAGLE. MoosyDoosy

Day 2 <4h to EoD

GhandiEAGLE(4): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior
TJHuggins(4): Ticktock, Noobking, MoosyDoosy, WonnaPlay
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE

Not Voting(2): scott31337, TJHuggins

Day 2 <40m to EoD

GhandiEAGLE(5): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay
TJHuggins(4): Noobking, MoosyDoosy, scott31337
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE
scott31337 (1): Tictock

Not Voting(1): TJHuggins[/QUOTE]

Day 2 EoD

GhandiEAGLE(7): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay ,Ticktock, MoosyDoosy
TJHuggins(2): Noobking, scott31337
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE

Not Voting(1): TJHuggins

Alright, give me some time to figure this out....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 22:27 GMT
#570
On July 16 2015 07:21 Tictock wrote:
He has made several promises to us to give us more , and has failed to do so. The only decent posts he made where the ones where he was talking about D1 VCA stuff, which I think WP or n00b pointed out was an easy post to make as that was the general sentiment at the time.

What do you think about MD now HtS?


Yeah the VCA post there was pretty easy, as for MD, I'd have to assume right now no change from the vote alone, because his vote had zero bearing on the outcome, it wouldn't help or hurt as either alignment.

Ninjavoting sucks so it's not a point in his favour but I'm more concerned about the timing of the vote with anyone because you can trace timing to motivation.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
July 15 2015 22:30 GMT
#571
On July 16 2015 07:18 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 07:11 Tictock wrote:
Oh MD ninja voted did he?

MD we need to start hearing about your reads man. You've been a terrible & unhelpful all game long and now it looks like you setup a last minuet vote switch to GE.

Actually MD is probably the best lynch tomorrow if he does not explain himself in solid detail. I would never bring him into MyLo or LyLo with the way he's been playing.

Scott is in that same boat, so between the 2 of them.

TJ at least had decent content D1.


Wrong, WonnaPlay hammered. What do you mean by MD set him up?


Ninjavoting is shite though.

But in your world, if MD is scum, it means he set up his own teammate Sulfurus to be lynched d1. Do you think he was faking his breadcrumbs and Sulfurus wanted to bus him d1? Why would a scum player purposely act scummy (referring to MD here)?

If MD and Sulfurus were scum, why would Sulfurus slip like he did d1? He could have just said nothing.

And TJ had content but some of it was questionable.


I never said any of the bolded line, think you misread something.

Well MD effectily wasted his vote D1 and now D2 ninja voted (and not in the voting thread mind you...) onto someone who confirmed town.

... ehh Thinking back on D1 your right Sulf did make that post where he basically said he didn't care if MD got lynched. I also get what you mean by his play, but that doesn't mean we should accept him continuing that level of play.

Still my point was that MD needs to start giving some real reads, because I'm not comfortable bringing him into late game with what we've seen from him thus far. I suppose we still have plenty of time before that's an issue though.
I can take that responsibility.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 22:30 GMT
#572
Offhand

More likely scum from vote analysis alone:
Grokken - AFK vote
WannaPlay - hammered him
scott31337 - possible distancing if TJH was town

Less likely scum
Tictock - tried separate wagon

not sure
Silentwarrior - doublecheck reads d1
TJHuggins - afked without voting. Could be tactical since he did acknowledge that people could get away with one no-vote at EoD1
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 22:39 GMT
#573
DT, if any should check any of SW, Grokken, WP or Scott.

If the vig did not shoot N1, I would shoot either Scott or TJH.

Going to think harder.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
July 15 2015 22:43 GMT
#574
Sorry just lurking and thinking atm...

On July 16 2015 07:30 Half the Sky wrote:
TJHuggins - afked without voting. Could be tactical since he did acknowledge that people could get away with one no-vote at EoD1


I'm also remembering that you made a big post early on in D2 about how it was bad to make policy lynches D2. Kinda leads into your point, but I'm also not sure if that makes him more or less likely to be scum here.
I can take that responsibility.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 15 2015 22:44 GMT
#575
I did not ninja vote and I did not change my vote. Please change your list before you raise all hell against me Half the Sky. Go the goddamn voting thread for the rest of you people to confirm this. I did not change my vote off TJHuggins.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 15 2015 22:46 GMT
#576
On July 16 2015 07:24 Half the Sky wrote:
Assumptions - Sulfurus wagon was a pure wagon.

Starting point VCA

Day 1

Sulfurus(4): Half the Sky, Fidei86, Kelsier SC, Noobking <--------likely pure wagon
MoosyDoosy(3): Grokken, TJHuggins, Sulfurus
NydusHerMain (1): silentwarrior
Fidei86(1): NydusHerMain

Not Voting(4): WonnaPlay, scott31337, GhandiEAGLE. MoosyDoosy

Day 2 <4h to EoD

GhandiEAGLE(4): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior
TJHuggins(4): Ticktock, Noobking, MoosyDoosy, WonnaPlay
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE

Not Voting(2): scott31337, TJHuggins

Day 2 <40m to EoD

GhandiEAGLE(5): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay
TJHuggins(4): Noobking, MoosyDoosy, scott31337
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE
scott31337 (1): Tictock

Not Voting(1): TJHuggins


Day 2 EoD

GhandiEAGLE(7): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay ,Ticktock, MoosyDoosy
TJHuggins(2): Noobking, scott31337
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE

Not Voting(1): TJHuggins

Alright, give me some time to figure this out....
[/QUOTE]
Yeah why the hell am I on GhandiEAGLE. Like go read the voting thread buddy or look at the mod list...
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 15 2015 22:47 GMT
#577
On July 16 2015 07:30 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 07:18 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 16 2015 07:11 Tictock wrote:
Oh MD ninja voted did he?

MD we need to start hearing about your reads man. You've been a terrible & unhelpful all game long and now it looks like you setup a last minuet vote switch to GE.

Actually MD is probably the best lynch tomorrow if he does not explain himself in solid detail. I would never bring him into MyLo or LyLo with the way he's been playing.

Scott is in that same boat, so between the 2 of them.

TJ at least had decent content D1.


Wrong, WonnaPlay hammered. What do you mean by MD set him up?


Ninjavoting is shite though.

But in your world, if MD is scum, it means he set up his own teammate Sulfurus to be lynched d1. Do you think he was faking his breadcrumbs and Sulfurus wanted to bus him d1? Why would a scum player purposely act scummy (referring to MD here)?

If MD and Sulfurus were scum, why would Sulfurus slip like he did d1? He could have just said nothing.

And TJ had content but some of it was questionable.


I never said any of the bolded line, think you misread something.

Well MD effectily wasted his vote D1 and now D2 ninja voted (and not in the voting thread mind you...) onto someone who confirmed town.

... ehh Thinking back on D1 your right Sulf did make that post where he basically said he didn't care if MD got lynched. I also get what you mean by his play, but that doesn't mean we should accept him continuing that level of play.

Still my point was that MD needs to start giving some real reads, because I'm not comfortable bringing him into late game with what we've seen from him thus far. I suppose we still have plenty of time before that's an issue though.

OMFG I DID NOT NINJA VOTE. Lol plz read the voting thread ya'll. Ugh Half the Sky why did you have to start this shit. Are you trying to kill me or something?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
July 15 2015 22:47 GMT
#578
On July 16 2015 07:39 Half the Sky wrote:
DT, if any should check any of SW, Grokken, WP or Scott.

If the vig did not shoot N1, I would shoot either Scott or TJH.

Going to think harder.


I support this post.

I would personally check either Grok or Scott myself.

If we have a Vigi they should absolutely shoot tonight. I feel like it was silly to hold the shot N1, but maybe not that bad.
I can take that responsibility.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 15 2015 22:48 GMT
#579
On July 16 2015 07:00 Onegu wrote:
Day 2 Final Vote Count


GhandiEAGLE(7): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay ,Ticktock, MoosyDoosy
TJHuggins(2): Noobking, scott31337
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE


Not Voting(1): , TJHuggins

Reminder Voting is done here.

It is mandatory to vote. Not doing so will result in a warning a second non vote will result in a modkill and action taken against you in the Mafia ban thread.

Currently GhandiEAGLE is set to be lynched with 7 votes.

Day 1 ends in



PLEASE REMEMBER THAT IT IS MANDATORY TO VOTE.

Yeah Onegu go fix this since you're mod. I did not vote on GhandiEAGLE. Plz go read the damn voting thread.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 22:49 GMT
#580
On July 16 2015 07:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I did not ninja vote and I did not change my vote. Please change your list before you raise all hell against me Half the Sky. Go the goddamn voting thread for the rest of you people to confirm this. I did not change my vote off TJHuggins.


On July 16 2015 07:00 Onegu wrote:
Day 2 Final Vote Count


GhandiEAGLE(7): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay ,Ticktock, MoosyDoosy
TJHuggins(2): Noobking, scott31337
Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE


Not Voting(1): , TJHuggins

Reminder Voting is done here.

It is mandatory to vote. Not doing so will result in a warning a second non vote will result in a modkill and action taken against you in the Mafia ban thread.

Currently GhandiEAGLE is set to be lynched with 7 votes.

Day 1 ends in



PLEASE REMEMBER THAT IT IS MANDATORY TO VOTE.


Moosy, I pulled my counts STRAIGHT FROM THE MOD. Look at the top of the page.
Then the mod made an error. I am sorry, I looked at the top of the page of this thread.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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