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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 15 2015 21:38 GMT
#6981
Whatever I'm going to the gym bye.
Reread ebh and tell me that's someone that's not trying to be obstructive and obtuse for no reason at all.
Retired.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 21:39 GMT
#6982
On July 16 2015 06:31 boxerfred wrote:
EBH's filter is decent but short as fuck. I actually like it. I'm not voting him today.

Another thought that came to my mind:

We had 3 NK's this night, all on town:

Marvellosity the DLME Investigator has been killed!
Scott31337 the DLME Investigator has been killed!
Harkon the Lieutenant has been killed!

I assume that the Harkon shot came from scum. Pretty much confirmed blue. How many shots can scum pull off with 2 members left?

MOD QUESTION: Was Kelsier able to submit a night action? Was that night action executed or was it nullified since he was killed before EoN?

Then, I assume that someone who was handed a gun by LightningStrike shot. Most likely, the target was scott because he was scumread quite heavily. The other kill would've been a scum kill on marv then.

What is the thought process between killing marv and not LightningStrike? Recognizing him as an experienced player who's capable of finding scum? I'd say HtS and HF could think that way.

Since the gun LS handed out was a 1-shot, I think it's safe for him to say who he gave the gun to. Also, I want the gun bearer to tell who he shot and why. That would make it clearer which targets where shot by scum and it would confirm two people as town.

Or, LS + the one who claims having received the gun are the last two scum members.
That is only possible if there is another blue that is able to shoot in the game.

At this point, we have 5 dead blues and 1 more claimed blue, LS. That makes six blues vs. four reds. I lack experience in that game so please tell me, is that a valid and balanced setup that is likely to be used by Blazinghand?

Okay, so tl;dr:

LS, who received the gun? Confirm one more townie please. Guy with gun, tell us who you shot.
Also, is 6 blues vs. 4 reds okay and a "normal" setup?


Read the OP. Read the thread. Just read all the things.

LS said he gave a gun to marv, scum quite clearly did not shoot scott, there are 5 scum in the game.

And yes, night actions go through even when you die the same night.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 15 2015 21:39 GMT
#6983
On July 16 2015 06:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 06:33 boxerfred wrote:
EBWOP: I assume that there are four reds. I don't know for sure. How do people know that for sure? Experience?


Holy shit.
Read the thread.
It says it in the OP.

Thefuck?! Couldn't find it. I even went to the model post that BH provided just now. I searched via CTRL+F "4" and "four". Can you show me please?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 21:40 GMT
#6984
On July 16 2015 04:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly I feel like the thread is too stagnant for this to be a 100% mafia lynch. I keep looking for reasons to not jump on this lynch but I can't find any aside from that.
So I'm thinking I look for mafia outside of this lynch or in the people that are jumping on it.
I can't find any.

Bleh.


i'm aware of what you said

i'm saying the reasoning's faulty -shrugs-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 21:40 GMT
#6985
On June 19 2015 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Player List
1) Marvellosity (filter) DLME Investigator Shot Night 3
2) Scott31337 (filter) DLME Investigator Shot Night 3
3) WaveofShadow (filter)
4) Clarity_nl (filter)
5) ruXxar (filter)
6) Vivax (filter)
7) Bill Murray (filter) Ministry Obliviator Lynched D1
8) ritoky (filter) 1-Shot DUMBLEDORE Shot Night 2
9) geript (filter) Private Detective Shot Night 2
10) boxerfred (filter)
11) Meapak_Ziphh (filter) DLME Investigator Shot Night 2
12) Trfel (filter)
13) LightningStrike (filter)
14) Palmar (filter) 2-Shot Auror, Special Victims Unit Shot Night 1
15) ObiWanShinobi (filter)
16) KelsierSC (filter) False Lead modkilled Night 3
17) milo109 (filter) 2-shot DUMBLEDORE lynched Day 3
18) Breshke (filter)
19) Oatsmaster (filter)
20) Damdred (filter) False Lead Lynched D2
21) rsoultin (filter)
22) Half The Sky (filter)
23) Harkon (filter) Lieutenant Shot Night 3
24) Holyflare (filter)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter)


Replacement List
1) GlowingBear
2)
3)
4)
5)

11 of 20 Working with DMLE Precinct 16 Remaining
3 of 5 Obstructors of Justice Remaining

+ Show Spoiler [flips] +

Bill Murray (filter) Ministry Obliviator Lynched D1
Palmar (filter) 2-Shot Auror, Special Victims Unit Shot Night 1
Damdred (filter) False Lead Lynched D2
ritoky (filter) 1-shot DUMBLEDORE Shot Night 2
geript (filter) Private Detective Shot Night 2
Meapak_Ziphh (filter) DLME Investigator Shot Night 2
milo109 (filter) 2-shot DUMBLEDORE lynched Day 3

FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 15 2015 21:41 GMT
#6986
Ouch, that hurts.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 15 2015 21:44 GMT
#6987
okay, #tinfoil before I go to bed:

What if 3 scum roles with KP are alive and LS is lying about how he gave it to marv?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-15 21:50:24
July 15 2015 21:48 GMT
#6988
On July 16 2015 06:31 boxerfred wrote:
MOD QUESTION: Was Kelsier able to submit a night action? Was that night action executed or was it nullified since he was killed before EoN?


When KSC was modkilled, he and his role were removed from the game immediately. If he were nightkilled, he'd still be able to use his actions. Just as a modkilled player doesn't vote, a modkilled player doesn't user powers.

The flip happened at end of ngiht, but any abilities or items he may have had were removed when he was modkilled, so he wouldn't be able to take actions
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 21:50 GMT
#6989
On July 16 2015 06:44 boxerfred wrote:
okay, #tinfoil before I go to bed:

What if 3 scum roles with KP are alive and LS is lying about how he gave it to marv?


Two scum KP are accounted for - Harkon/marv
Third KP is marv on Scott

Fourth death is modkill.

And I claimed the shot on MZ.

In your world, the real gunsmith hasn't claimed or a town LS gunsmith would lie on whom he gave it to. Why would either ever happen?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 15 2015 21:51 GMT
#6990
On July 16 2015 06:31 boxerfred wrote:
EBH's filter is decent but short as fuck. I actually like it. I'm not voting him today.

Another thought that came to my mind:

We had 3 NK's this night, all on town:

Marvellosity the DLME Investigator has been killed!
Scott31337 the DLME Investigator has been killed!
Harkon the Lieutenant has been killed!

I assume that the Harkon shot came from scum. Pretty much confirmed blue. How many shots can scum pull off with 2 members left?

MOD QUESTION: Was Kelsier able to submit a night action? Was that night action executed or was it nullified since he was killed before EoN?

Then, I assume that someone who was handed a gun by LightningStrike shot. Most likely, the target was scott because he was scumread quite heavily. The other kill would've been a scum kill on marv then.

What is the thought process between killing marv and not LightningStrike? Recognizing him as an experienced player who's capable of finding scum? I'd say HtS and HF could think that way.

Since the gun LS handed out was a 1-shot, I think it's safe for him to say who he gave the gun to. Also, I want the gun bearer to tell who he shot and why. That would make it clearer which targets where shot by scum and it would confirm two people as town.

Or, LS + the one who claims having received the gun are the last two scum members.
That is only possible if there is another blue that is able to shoot in the game.

At this point, we have 5 dead blues and 1 more claimed blue, LS. That makes six blues vs. four reds. I lack experience in that game so please tell me, is that a valid and balanced setup that is likely to be used by Blazinghand?

Okay, so tl;dr:

LS, who received the gun? Confirm one more townie please. Guy with gun, tell us who you shot.
Also, is 6 blues vs. 4 reds okay and a "normal" setup?

Again I had given my gun to Marv who died last night so he most likely shot Scott.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 21:54 GMT
#6991
there's no vig type mafia role in the op

lol bf you're way behind here ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 21:55 GMT
#6992
I would say he's being disruptive but he's not actually interrupting anything.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 21:56 GMT
#6993
I already had a townread on bf and it's a bit wifom but I do think that scum!bf wouldn't do this like ever.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 21:57 GMT
#6994
true, he isn't...maybe looking for a way to push ls?

bf, i'm assuming you have a reason to think ls is scum and that's why you're doubting his claim? problem is i see no reason to doubt his claim unless you think the real gunsmith hasn't outed and hts and ls are like fooling us all blind -_- which i guess is possibly but not terribly likely xP

now, ls giving a gun to scum is more likely but they'd use it just as hts did unless they have onegu-sized cahones so...not sure where you're going with this?

can you explain?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 21:57 GMT
#6995
On July 16 2015 06:55 Clarity_nl wrote:
I would say he's being disruptive but he's not actually interrupting anything.


Not intentionally. I'm aware of how suboptimally he plays as town and he AFKs long enough to be quite behind every time he re-enters thread. NAI, it is what it is.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 15 2015 21:58 GMT
#6996
@EBH:

You had a confident scum-read on Vivax early on that you thought was a bussing attempt by vivax onto geript.
What are your thoughts on vivax now that geript has flipped?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 21:58 GMT
#6997
On July 16 2015 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I already had a townread on bf and it's a bit wifom but I do think that scum!bf wouldn't do this like ever.


if you're talking about "dumbtells", he's making them up the ying-yang...i maybe could get behind that. but i guess it depends on why he's pushing this line of thinking
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 15 2015 22:00 GMT
#6998
On July 16 2015 06:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 06:44 boxerfred wrote:
okay, #tinfoil before I go to bed:

What if 3 scum roles with KP are alive and LS is lying about how he gave it to marv?


Two scum KP are accounted for - Harkon/marv
Third KP is marv on Scott

Fourth death is modkill.

And I claimed the shot on MZ.

In your world, the real gunsmith hasn't claimed or a town LS gunsmith would lie on whom he gave it to. Why would either ever happen?


Hm thinking deeper into that, LS is pretty much confirmed, yep. I actually really like your post since it sets me back on trail, points out to the facts and is really a good reminder for me to not go totally crazy right now. That's highly unlikely for a scum member to do. Moving you to town lean. God, good night now.

Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 22:02 GMT
#6999
On July 16 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I already had a townread on bf and it's a bit wifom but I do think that scum!bf wouldn't do this like ever.


if you're talking about "dumbtells", he's making them up the ying-yang...i maybe could get behind that. but i guess it depends on why he's pushing this line of thinking


I don't think bf, who is in no danger to get lynched would go "hurr do how many scum are there" as scum to get some kinda wifom towncred. The much simpler explanation is that he just can't read and he's town

The problem I have with this game is that if either you or hts is scum you're not gonna get caught cause you're like the only reasonable people that post consistently, and it's very easy to be reasonable when town is flailing.

Btw LS is gunsmith there's like 0% that he's not, he gave a gun to hts and hts confirmed it. So even if hts is scum and shot MZ that doesn't make LS any less confirmed town.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 15 2015 22:03 GMT
#7000
On July 16 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I already had a townread on bf and it's a bit wifom but I do think that scum!bf wouldn't do this like ever.


if you're talking about "dumbtells", he's making them up the ying-yang...i maybe could get behind that. but i guess it depends on why he's pushing this line of thinking

I was thinking of a scenario of 3 scum members alive carrying KPs and LS claiming to only give guns to dead people, thus justifying the third KP. I'm completely backing off of that on second thought though.


alsdkjsaöldkjsaöldk good night.
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