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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 15 2015 22:44 GMT
#7021
On July 15 2015 05:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 05:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:36 Harkon wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:30 Harkon wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:22 Harkon wrote:
On July 15 2015 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
I said ows/oats because it was lazy poe but obi actually being serious is so out of character that he's probably mafia. Oats is probably town for not nking or rbing geript after the whole tmi shit and that whole argument was towny anyway for thinkint along those lines.

This is a very bad read and HF knows better. No matter what Obis alignment is he has been serious as town before and it is absolutely not out of character for him-
On July 15 2015 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
VA (and expert smurf hunter me says it's va) is probably mafia because he dislikes killing me, a jat shot is so shit in any game that it must be because jat was hinting at being blue and va likes hunting blues.

Ruxxar, you watching? Needless shitflinging once again. Not to mention that HF has killed me as scum multiple times and I basically always get shot if I am town.
On July 15 2015 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
From your perspective, is there anyone who as scum think they can keep you alive and then try to mislynch you/get you shot by town?

There is noone who would keep HF alive because he thinks he can mislynch him.
On July 15 2015 03:23 Holyflare wrote:
lol @ obi criticism of VA not doing anything, that's just flat out hilarious and major ++++++ scum points


Further shitflinging. Very productive.
On July 15 2015 03:34 Holyflare wrote:
Like seriously this is the most fake push I've ever seen someone do. Not only is VA a CHRONIC lurker and Obi absolutely knows that to be the case but this post:

On July 15 2015 03:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly if you get lynched at this point then you have nobody but yourself to blame. We've given you plenty of opportunities to try to make sense of things and all you do is come up with excuses to not explain things or not post.

Maybe I'm actually mafia and your meta case will break the entire game open.
Maybe I'm actually town and finding the people that agree with a maybe weak case would expose them as mafia.
Maybe you can bring real insight into the game, despite your case.

You're literally not doing any of that and I'm tired of trying to probe you for even the most basic of explanations. I'm voting you tomorrow unless you can produce SOMETHING that makes me think better of you.


just screams that obi thinks VA is actually town??? Everything he says is mafia indicative but it's phrased in such an "i know you're town so do something or i vote you" kind of way it's ridiculous

Complete and utter bullshit. It is normal to talk to people like they are town like this and HF knows it.
On July 15 2015 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2015 04:26 ruXxar wrote:
Well he seems dead-set on shooting you so there's that :/.
I don't feel good about it but in a way it sort of clears up things.
LS said that he's fairly confident there's 1 mafia between you and rsoul, so if you flip green then we're probably going to lynch rsoul I hope.


if you believe that ls gave obiwanshinobi his gun then you might actually be mafia

Absolutely nonsensical statement.
On July 15 2015 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

i don't see how that's a lame argument at all, your filter is littered with defences of people multiple times at points where i don't think it was apt to defend people


It is lame and you know it.
I hard defend people literally ALL THE TIME in yet now, in THIS game, it's scummy, because ???


how do i know that? i don't read your posts ever because they are largely useless 1 liners that appear randomly at times i don't care about and just poe a team around you, this time you've been poe'd into the scum team and looking at your posts they seem largely unintuitive

i've also already said clarity's list is largely interchangeable with his null reads too so there's that which is quite apparent since it was like what? 2 posts ago? then there's the fact you're far far far too aggressive to people scum reading you for no reason whatsoever, it's a colossal overreaction on every account.

Further needless shitflinging while HF knows that Obi harddefends people as town all the time.


HF is probably mafia.


Good to know I'm not completely alone in thinking this scumread makes no sense.

Just let it be known that I don't actually townread you. What HF says just isn't true/makes no sense.


I'm trying to follow. I've liked HF's push on OWS but I don't have any meta on either player, You're saying HF is scum for pushing OWS for the wrong reasons?

Yes. He is pushing OWS for reasons that HF knows aren't true. If I had to decide I would say Obi is town btw. I just don't want to.


Deadline is soon, I expect you to die tonight, doubly so if HF is scum. My strong townread is calling my other strong townread scum sooooo I'd like you to try and convince me.

Seriously though I think HF is totes town.


I literally just told you that Hf does every single thing you said makes him town as mafia.
He is on record as doing so and your points on him being town are bad.

Why is he so town to you, like really?


^ this is the exact point i'm making basically
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 22:44 GMT
#7022
Honestly HF I just don't care at this point. I brought up that I cba and then I did work anyway

On July 16 2015 07:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
But I guess being negative doesn't do anything.

I've reread EBH and despite all the "woe is me, nobody listen" I do have a townlean on him now.

Harkon and marv both thought vivax was town (or had a townlean) so I guess I'm keeping that..

I don't see what HtS is talking about in regards to breshke, he looks like someone who has a decent chance of flipping scum to me.

I can't wrap my head around ruxxar, but I'd be up for lynching him at some point.


Like it's low effort but it's effort. Your martyring really made me stop caring all that much about the game.

FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 15 2015 22:56 GMT
#7023
Vote Count


Holyfare (7): Holyflare, LightningStrike, Clarrity_nl, boxerfred, WaveofShadow, Trfel, Oatsmaster
Breshke (1): XEliteBlueHunter69X
XEliteBlueHunter69X (1): ObiWanShinobi


Not Voting (5): ruXxar, Vivax, Breshke, rsoultin, Half the Sky

Currently, no one is set to be lynched. With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. Day ends at Thursday, Jul 16 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .

Voting is Mandatory! Voting is done in the voting thread: (link)

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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 22:56 GMT
#7024
On July 16 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote:
But boxerfred played his first newbie game as scum by pretending to be really dumb the whole game, no?

I don't think that his not knowing how many mafia there are is alignment indicative.


o.0 oh i wasn't aware of that, truffle
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 22:58 GMT
#7025
Are you gonna post more? It's late and I wanna go to bed.

A couple of thoughts:
I can't explain my townread on your properly by quoting a bunch of posts. It's combination of having the same thoughts as you, liking your approaches to things (even your screaming at rsoulting for getting in the way of your scumhunting) and general tone.

Part of your push on OWS relied on meta, part of it didn't. The thing made sense as a whole to me. I have since eased up on OWS and prefer a breshke lynch, but I'm perfectly fine with lynching you at this point.

I simply do not have the energy to go read an entire different game that I haven't played in for meta purposes unless I absolutely have to, it's hard enough keeping up with a game that's going on in real time, I've tried reading games that have finished on multiple occasions and it's just not the same, reading filters ignores all context which leads to bad conclusions.

FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 23:00 GMT
#7026
Basically you gave me an excuse to just lynch you and not spend 2-3 hours reading meta and I'm happy taking it. Kinda the same thing as that I would have been happy if you got shot last night and flipped town.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 23:03 GMT
#7027
lol it's an hf sighting ^^

eh i haven't really touched clarity's filter much either @.@ we were basically posting identical responses (with different wording) for awhile, though, which generally gives me a good feeling about people. i'll pop back into his filter when i'm looking over ows (va is saying it now, too?) and probably hts/bresh cause i've ignored them a lot lol ><

who am i kidding? i just need to reread things in general. anyway, yeah...i'm here if you're ready to play, hf
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 15 2015 23:04 GMT
#7028
Obiwan is probably also mafia for my case and the fact that he's super hedged on me despite calling me scum all the time last night and seeing me "clearly misrepresent his meta" and he's only not voting me because there's a wagon on me? That's super bs too. Don't listen to HtS his filters are lies.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 23:04 GMT
#7029
On July 15 2015 04:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
Breshke - I've read him as town based on his d1 for most of the game but I cannot recall a single thing he's done or said since then. In looking through his filter he immediately sheeped my post regarding milo and claimed that lynching damdred over milo would be bad even if damdred is RB, seems like a weird kind of logic to take. Scum obviously would love a milo lynch over damdred even if damdred is afterwards. He complains about the HF/milo interaction which I get, but then he calls milo confirmed scum which I do not. He showed no hesitation towards the end of d3 which I think makes him scum as milo started looking really townie near the end.


Breshke actually said this? Ugh I need to go to bed, but when was this?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 23:06 GMT
#7030
On July 16 2015 08:04 Holyflare wrote:
Obiwan is probably also mafia for my case and the fact that he's super hedged on me despite calling me scum all the time last night and seeing me "clearly misrepresent his meta" and he's only not voting me because there's a wagon on me? That's super bs too. Don't listen to HtS his filters are lies.


You're basically telling me not to use the Aperture 4 filter to make a read on him either way?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 23:07 GMT
#7031
On July 16 2015 08:04 Holyflare wrote:
Obiwan is probably also mafia for my case and the fact that he's super hedged on me despite calling me scum all the time last night and seeing me "clearly misrepresent his meta" and he's only not voting me because there's a wagon on me? That's super bs too. Don't listen to HtS his filters are lies.


o.0 lol his filters are lies, what?

yeah i agree that it's strange that as soon as you could be the lynch he started poking everywhere else
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 23:07 GMT
#7032
I just find it really poor that people are clamouring to policy vote HF today when another nightfall would reveal what is going on...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 23:08 GMT
#7033
I didn't fully understand the "his filters are lies" comment either.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 23:08 GMT
#7034
On July 16 2015 08:07 Half the Sky wrote:
I just find it really poor that people are clamouring to policy vote HF today when another nightfall would reveal what is going on...


I mean it appears he's somewhat playing. I'll reconsider in the morning.

Please read up on breshke, his filter isn't that long.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 23:09 GMT
#7035
On July 16 2015 08:04 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 04:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
Breshke - I've read him as town based on his d1 for most of the game but I cannot recall a single thing he's done or said since then. In looking through his filter he immediately sheeped my post regarding milo and claimed that lynching damdred over milo would be bad even if damdred is RB, seems like a weird kind of logic to take. Scum obviously would love a milo lynch over damdred even if damdred is afterwards. He complains about the HF/milo interaction which I get, but then he calls milo confirmed scum which I do not. He showed no hesitation towards the end of d3 which I think makes him scum as milo started looking really townie near the end.


Breshke actually said this? Ugh I need to go to bed, but when was this?


presumably during the jk claim, but i'd have to verify

it makes sense from the perspective that everyone was saying their alignments were linked...obviously erroneous now...eh actually that's not a bad point at all cause even if it kinda makes sense from town valuing jk over cop if bresh knows their alignments it also "clears" damdy lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 23:10 GMT
#7036
On July 16 2015 08:07 Half the Sky wrote:
I just find it really poor that people are clamouring to policy vote HF today when another nightfall would reveal what is going on...


don't say this -_-

like seriously, hts, if he really just up and quit the game, he's either scum skating by and thumbing his nose at us for being morons, or town that scum is definitely going to leave alive. a policy lynch on him if he hadn't come back isn't "really poor" at all
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 23:12 GMT
#7037
On July 16 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Basically you gave me an excuse to just lynch you and not spend 2-3 hours reading meta and I'm happy taking it. Kinda the same thing as that I would have been happy if you got shot last night and flipped town.


Why would you policy lynch anyone today when another nightfall would reveal more potentally? We don't go to mylo/lylo tomorrow.

Trfel and BF are legitimately scumreading HF (and maybe others are too I forget offhand) but the policy voters....come on.

11:3 now
10:3 ML
8:3 NK
7:3 ML
5:3 mylo
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 23:13 GMT
#7038
On July 16 2015 08:10 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 08:07 Half the Sky wrote:
I just find it really poor that people are clamouring to policy vote HF today when another nightfall would reveal what is going on...


don't say this -_-

like seriously, hts, if he really just up and quit the game, he's either scum skating by and thumbing his nose at us for being morons, or town that scum is definitely going to leave alive. a policy lynch on him if he hadn't come back isn't "really poor" at all


Hmmmm, alright. I'm just a little upset atm at how this game is going tbh.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 23:19 GMT
#7039
HtS who do you wanna lynch? You've done a lot of analysis lately but you haven't really reached any conclusions from what I can tell. Obviously you don't agree with the policy lynch, so what's the alternative?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 23:20 GMT
#7040
I want to say ruXxar or EBH actually. I would need time to re-read ruXxar and re-review Trfel's case but that is where I'm at.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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