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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 23:20 GMT
#7041
Actually I'm going to bed.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 23:21 GMT
#7042
On July 16 2015 08:13 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 08:10 rsoultin wrote:
On July 16 2015 08:07 Half the Sky wrote:
I just find it really poor that people are clamouring to policy vote HF today when another nightfall would reveal what is going on...


don't say this -_-

like seriously, hts, if he really just up and quit the game, he's either scum skating by and thumbing his nose at us for being morons, or town that scum is definitely going to leave alive. a policy lynch on him if he hadn't come back isn't "really poor" at all


Hmmmm, alright. I'm just a little upset atm at how this game is going tbh.


nah, i get it. i've been kinda expecting him to poke his nose back in, frankly lol >< but if he hadn't...(and if this is just a drive-by, too, in all honesty but i'm kinda hoping it's not) then yeah i'd be on that wagon, too, if only to prevent town from having to make the decision in lylo
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 15 2015 23:21 GMT
#7043
I fully intended to absolutely not post again.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 23:23 GMT
#7044
On July 16 2015 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
I fully intended to absolutely not post again.


lol xP good thing you can't help yourself

okay, guys. i'm out but i'll be back with some things later tonight
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 23:25 GMT
#7045
I'm not happy with my play to some extent (and I'm not even going to touch the n2 vig shot) but independent of n2, I am pretty frustrated.

But like I said, where my head is at - ruXxar/EBH, some of the others I also have to re-evaluate. And double check on Breshke and Clarity.

And I'm hoping I stumble on something important before next day cycle because I fly to NYC Friday >_<
I can still play, but the time will still be more limited. But will be on US East time so I just need to not fuck up EoDs >_<
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 23:26 GMT
#7046
I'm out for the night. <3s
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 15 2015 23:27 GMT
#7047
Man I just read obi's filters from his other games and this is exactly like his mafia game? There is no way he defends so many people so many times in his town games, he's super unsure and lost and a lazy pile of crap in town games and free town reads, silly defences and questions in mafia games. Just like here.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 23:30 GMT
#7048
On July 16 2015 08:25 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm not happy with my play to some extent (and I'm not even going to touch the n2 vig shot) but independent of n2, I am pretty frustrated.

But like I said, where my head is at - ruXxar/EBH, some of the others I also have to re-evaluate. And double check on Breshke and Clarity.

And I'm hoping I stumble on something important before next day cycle because I fly to NYC Friday >_<
I can still play, but the time will still be more limited. But will be on US East time so I just need to not fuck up EoDs >_<


ruxx can definitely be scum with how little his reads seemed to have changed (before i've reread his filter, mind you) and i dunnae i don't think it's a bad idea to review ows at all, but that's because i'm kinda leaning town on ebh and i have some respect (not blind respect after last game lolol ><) for his reads. i know what you said about ows' game but hf/vivax (i think?) have a good point on his wishy-washy approach to hf today

like this whole "thread is stagnant therefore hf must be town" is pretty horrible reasoning, tbf
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 23:33 GMT
#7049
Alright I will take your points on OWS into consideration considering what I drew in his defence was based on tone (which is weaker than the points you two have raised).

Now I'm out for the night.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 23:33 GMT
#7050
On July 16 2015 08:27 Holyflare wrote:
Man I just read obi's filters from his other games and this is exactly like his mafia game? There is no way he defends so many people so many times in his town games, he's super unsure and lost and a lazy pile of crap in town games and free town reads, silly defences and questions in mafia games. Just like here.


on my list of things to do -_-

but if hts is right about how small/outdated a pool we have to work with there i don't think it's enough to push ows on, not without a little more certainty. ksc getting modkilled was a windfall lol >< but we're running out of lynches pretty quickly here
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 15 2015 23:36 GMT
#7051
i think it's certainly enough, keep defending your mafia partner though! defending town and soft pushing his mafia partners all game and just sheeping along and dodging afk town lynches seems pretty mafia to me
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 23:38 GMT
#7052
On July 16 2015 08:36 Holyflare wrote:
i think it's certainly enough, keep defending your mafia partner though! defending town and soft pushing his mafia partners all game and just sheeping along and dodging afk town lynches seems pretty mafia to me


ah so i'm mafia again in hf-world ^^ good to know. do you want me to bother looking into your case or not? xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 23:39 GMT
#7053
On July 16 2015 08:33 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 08:27 Holyflare wrote:
Man I just read obi's filters from his other games and this is exactly like his mafia game? There is no way he defends so many people so many times in his town games, he's super unsure and lost and a lazy pile of crap in town games and free town reads, silly defences and questions in mafia games. Just like here.


on my list of things to do -_-

but if hts is right about how small/outdated a pool we have to work with there i don't think it's enough to push ows on, not without a little more certainty. ksc getting modkilled was a windfall lol >< but we're running out of lynches pretty quickly here


HF admitted prior when I debated this point with him that his read on OWS is more offhand (paraphrasing).

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.....and I counted....only 2 MLs left. :/

I agree....we got very lucky with KSC. He would have never gotten lynched.

Third time's a charm....now I really need to sleep.

And if I come back, someone should just dayvig me >_<
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 15 2015 23:40 GMT
#7054
On July 16 2015 08:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 08:36 Holyflare wrote:
i think it's certainly enough, keep defending your mafia partner though! defending town and soft pushing his mafia partners all game and just sheeping along and dodging afk town lynches seems pretty mafia to me


ah so i'm mafia again in hf-world ^^ good to know. do you want me to bother looking into your case or not? xP


you actually always have been i just lied so people wouldn't be whiney bitches about me clogging up the thread about you, I don't think you've done anything at all for the past 3 cycles but comment on people's posts and do nothing
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 23:44 GMT
#7055
On July 16 2015 08:40 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 08:38 rsoultin wrote:
On July 16 2015 08:36 Holyflare wrote:
i think it's certainly enough, keep defending your mafia partner though! defending town and soft pushing his mafia partners all game and just sheeping along and dodging afk town lynches seems pretty mafia to me


ah so i'm mafia again in hf-world ^^ good to know. do you want me to bother looking into your case or not? xP


you actually always have been i just lied so people wouldn't be whiney bitches about me clogging up the thread about you, I don't think you've done anything at all for the past 3 cycles but comment on people's posts and do nothing


-snorts- if i need to put you on mute again, i will. this push of yours is retarded, baseless, clearly demonstrates you're not actually reading any of my posts, and at best just plain wrong ^^ and i've no interest sitting here fighting with you

you think that you should get special treatment "oh don't say bad things about me, don't scumread me, don't you see it just antagonizes me?" yeah. i'm done treating you with kid gloves, prima dona

and if you start your sniping shit whenever i try to do anything again, i will lynch you ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 15 2015 23:52 GMT
#7056
On July 08 2015 06:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also clarity is mafia.

On July 08 2015 11:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm inclined to agree that sparing MZ was the correct play.
Someone who defends themselves is always more valuable than someone that doesn't play.

Anyhoezels.
I can back a Clarity lynch tomorrow.
EBH should be on the list as well.
I have my doubts about Harkon.

The cop claims are likely to resolve themselves with time, so who cares even.

On July 08 2015 13:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I have literally 0 interest in even discussing MZ anymore.
I don't care. You can resolve it amongst yourselves.

Clarity is mafia. Discuss.

On July 08 2015 14:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Ruxx, talk to me about someone else for now.
Talk to me about clarity or EBH.

Even if rso is mafia she isn't getting lynched tomorrow just by virtue of her being active so surely you have other scumreads/alternatives you want to explore.

On July 08 2015 14:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly I was going to go for Clarity because the reasoning behind almost all of his votes was completely awful.
I guess that works too.

Show me where it happened and why it's scummy?

On July 15 2015 04:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Clarity, I literally cannot be fucked listening to a person who doesn't read the thread.
Don't even waste my time if you're going to call Hf town for reasons that you full-well know don't exist.

On July 15 2015 05:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 05:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:36 Harkon wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:30 Harkon wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:22 Harkon wrote:
On July 15 2015 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
I said ows/oats because it was lazy poe but obi actually being serious is so out of character that he's probably mafia. Oats is probably town for not nking or rbing geript after the whole tmi shit and that whole argument was towny anyway for thinkint along those lines.

This is a very bad read and HF knows better. No matter what Obis alignment is he has been serious as town before and it is absolutely not out of character for him-
On July 15 2015 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
VA (and expert smurf hunter me says it's va) is probably mafia because he dislikes killing me, a jat shot is so shit in any game that it must be because jat was hinting at being blue and va likes hunting blues.

Ruxxar, you watching? Needless shitflinging once again. Not to mention that HF has killed me as scum multiple times and I basically always get shot if I am town.
On July 15 2015 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
From your perspective, is there anyone who as scum think they can keep you alive and then try to mislynch you/get you shot by town?

There is noone who would keep HF alive because he thinks he can mislynch him.
On July 15 2015 03:23 Holyflare wrote:
lol @ obi criticism of VA not doing anything, that's just flat out hilarious and major ++++++ scum points


Further shitflinging. Very productive.
On July 15 2015 03:34 Holyflare wrote:
Like seriously this is the most fake push I've ever seen someone do. Not only is VA a CHRONIC lurker and Obi absolutely knows that to be the case but this post:

On July 15 2015 03:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly if you get lynched at this point then you have nobody but yourself to blame. We've given you plenty of opportunities to try to make sense of things and all you do is come up with excuses to not explain things or not post.

Maybe I'm actually mafia and your meta case will break the entire game open.
Maybe I'm actually town and finding the people that agree with a maybe weak case would expose them as mafia.
Maybe you can bring real insight into the game, despite your case.

You're literally not doing any of that and I'm tired of trying to probe you for even the most basic of explanations. I'm voting you tomorrow unless you can produce SOMETHING that makes me think better of you.


just screams that obi thinks VA is actually town??? Everything he says is mafia indicative but it's phrased in such an "i know you're town so do something or i vote you" kind of way it's ridiculous

Complete and utter bullshit. It is normal to talk to people like they are town like this and HF knows it.
On July 15 2015 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2015 04:26 ruXxar wrote:
Well he seems dead-set on shooting you so there's that :/.
I don't feel good about it but in a way it sort of clears up things.
LS said that he's fairly confident there's 1 mafia between you and rsoul, so if you flip green then we're probably going to lynch rsoul I hope.


if you believe that ls gave obiwanshinobi his gun then you might actually be mafia

Absolutely nonsensical statement.
On July 15 2015 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

i don't see how that's a lame argument at all, your filter is littered with defences of people multiple times at points where i don't think it was apt to defend people


It is lame and you know it.
I hard defend people literally ALL THE TIME in yet now, in THIS game, it's scummy, because ???


how do i know that? i don't read your posts ever because they are largely useless 1 liners that appear randomly at times i don't care about and just poe a team around you, this time you've been poe'd into the scum team and looking at your posts they seem largely unintuitive

i've also already said clarity's list is largely interchangeable with his null reads too so there's that which is quite apparent since it was like what? 2 posts ago? then there's the fact you're far far far too aggressive to people scum reading you for no reason whatsoever, it's a colossal overreaction on every account.

Further needless shitflinging while HF knows that Obi harddefends people as town all the time.


HF is probably mafia.


Good to know I'm not completely alone in thinking this scumread makes no sense.

Just let it be known that I don't actually townread you. What HF says just isn't true/makes no sense.


I'm trying to follow. I've liked HF's push on OWS but I don't have any meta on either player, You're saying HF is scum for pushing OWS for the wrong reasons?

Yes. He is pushing OWS for reasons that HF knows aren't true. If I had to decide I would say Obi is town btw. I just don't want to.


Deadline is soon, I expect you to die tonight, doubly so if HF is scum. My strong townread is calling my other strong townread scum sooooo I'd like you to try and convince me.

Seriously though I think HF is totes town.


I literally just told you that Hf does every single thing you said makes him town as mafia.
He is on record as doing so and your points on him being town are bad.

Why is he so town to you, like really?

On July 15 2015 05:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I probably should have probed at clarity harder night 1.
I knew the points he was making on other people day 1 were garbage then too.

Oh wells. I'm heading to work. I'll try to check in as much as I can until later but I don't suspect that I'll be able to.

On July 16 2015 04:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly I feel like the thread is too stagnant for this to be a 100% mafia lynch. I keep looking for reasons to not jump on this lynch but I can't find any aside from that.
So I'm thinking I look for mafia outside of this lynch or in the people that are jumping on it.
I can't find any.


Bleh.


So he scum reads clarity all game and see's clarity hard defending me but there's evidence against me that points to me looking scummy that clarity ignores. For all the reasons obi should be scum reading clarity still but does he? no, it's completely disappeared and the ONLY scum read he has is EBH? After saying he can't find mafia too!




After having absolutely no read on me, I pointed out previously how obi's scum read on me randomly appears out of nowhere. Then all of these posts happen:

On July 15 2015 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2015 03:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 03:34 Holyflare wrote:
Like seriously this is the most fake push I've ever seen someone do. Not only is VA a CHRONIC lurker and Obi absolutely knows that to be the case but this post:

On July 15 2015 03:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly if you get lynched at this point then you have nobody but yourself to blame. We've given you plenty of opportunities to try to make sense of things and all you do is come up with excuses to not explain things or not post.

Maybe I'm actually mafia and your meta case will break the entire game open.
Maybe I'm actually town and finding the people that agree with a maybe weak case would expose them as mafia.
Maybe you can bring real insight into the game, despite your case.

You're literally not doing any of that and I'm tired of trying to probe you for even the most basic of explanations. I'm voting you tomorrow unless you can produce SOMETHING that makes me think better of you.


just screams that obi thinks VA is actually town??? Everything he says is mafia indicative but it's phrased in such an "i know you're town so do something or i vote you" kind of way it's ridiculous


I'm working under the assumption that he could be town, not the fact that he is town.
Try harder.


If you say so. You also haven't called me mafia the entirety of the game. I've searched your filter for hf/holyflare/holy etc and i've only ever come up for you to say nothing towards you and no it's suddenly "hf is scum so who gives a shit" and "hf is possibly mafia" and "hf is mafia"????

none of this is logical in the slightest, reading through your filter is actually enlightening because this is the first time i've actually been bothered to do it all game and it's absolutely littered with defences of people, little bits of unintuitive tmi in regards to people's alignments and reactions that don't quite make sense with the information you can see

i'll probably make a case on you at some point but i'm fairly sure you are mafia


You might want to get that out before the end of tonight because I'm shooting you.

On July 15 2015 04:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
How has Hf been useful, exactly?
It's such an excuse to read someone as town I swear.

On July 15 2015 05:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 05:00 Holyflare wrote:
man you guys calling the guy giving the TOWN COP a chance scummy while everyone else did shit all and afk'd

:D :D :D :D :D

get gud guys


I can be reasonable but you throwing scum at me for lame reasons (like tmi) is not going to work.
If I'm not mafia, who is?

On July 15 2015 05:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:00 Holyflare wrote:
man you guys calling the guy giving the TOWN COP a chance scummy while everyone else did shit all and afk'd

:D :D :D :D :D

get gud guys


I can be reasonable but you throwing scum at me for lame reasons (like tmi) is not going to work.
If I'm not mafia, who is?


i don't see how that's a lame argument at all, your filter is littered with defences of people multiple times at points where i don't think it was apt to defend people


It is lame and you know it.
I hard defend people literally ALL THE TIME in yet now, in THIS game, it's scummy, because ???

On July 15 2015 05:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:00 Holyflare wrote:
man you guys calling the guy giving the TOWN COP a chance scummy while everyone else did shit all and afk'd

:D :D :D :D :D

get gud guys


I can be reasonable but you throwing scum at me for lame reasons (like tmi) is not going to work.
If I'm not mafia, who is?


i don't see how that's a lame argument at all, your filter is littered with defences of people multiple times at points where i don't think it was apt to defend people


It is lame and you know it.
I hard defend people literally ALL THE TIME in yet now, in THIS game, it's scummy, because ???


how do i know that? i don't read your posts ever because they are largely useless 1 liners that appear randomly at times i don't care about and just poe a team around you, this time you've been poe'd into the scum team and looking at your posts they seem largely unintuitive

i've also already said clarity's list is largely interchangeable with his null reads too so there's that which is quite apparent since it was like what? 2 posts ago? then there's the fact you're far far far too aggressive to people scum reading you for no reason whatsoever, it's a colossal overreaction on every account.


I'm sure acting like I don't play off of omgus like I literally always do (and you know it's a thing because you even mentioned it in your scum QT in that newbie game) and acting like it's scummy now is complete garbage, because you KNOW how much it pisses me off when people write me off/scumread me for shitty/nonexistent reasons.

On July 15 2015 05:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On July 15 2015 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
I mean i don't think i've ever mentioned that you're omgusing people as a way to call you scummy this entire game, where does that feature in my read and why are you mentioning it?


Because that's why it seemed like you were calling me scummy. -.-

Anyhoezels.
I can say very similar things as to why you called me scum your filter (which I actually have read, btw) right up until this very moment, and these reasons still don't fly with me at all.

It's like you're expecting me to accept the fact that you're scumreading me (which I won't ever fucking do, knowing how hard and how aggressively you'll push that read as either alignment) and that's complete garbage.

And your point on defenses is garbage.

On July 15 2015 05:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On July 15 2015 05:22 Harkon wrote:
On July 15 2015 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
I said ows/oats because it was lazy poe but obi actually being serious is so out of character that he's probably mafia. Oats is probably town for not nking or rbing geript after the whole tmi shit and that whole argument was towny anyway for thinkint along those lines.

This is a very bad read and HF knows better. No matter what Obis alignment is he has been serious as town before and it is absolutely not out of character for him-
On July 15 2015 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
VA (and expert smurf hunter me says it's va) is probably mafia because he dislikes killing me, a jat shot is so shit in any game that it must be because jat was hinting at being blue and va likes hunting blues.

Ruxxar, you watching? Needless shitflinging once again. Not to mention that HF has killed me as scum multiple times and I basically always get shot if I am town.
On July 15 2015 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
From your perspective, is there anyone who as scum think they can keep you alive and then try to mislynch you/get you shot by town?

There is noone who would keep HF alive because he thinks he can mislynch him.
On July 15 2015 03:23 Holyflare wrote:
lol @ obi criticism of VA not doing anything, that's just flat out hilarious and major ++++++ scum points


Further shitflinging. Very productive.
On July 15 2015 03:34 Holyflare wrote:
Like seriously this is the most fake push I've ever seen someone do. Not only is VA a CHRONIC lurker and Obi absolutely knows that to be the case but this post:

On July 15 2015 03:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly if you get lynched at this point then you have nobody but yourself to blame. We've given you plenty of opportunities to try to make sense of things and all you do is come up with excuses to not explain things or not post.

Maybe I'm actually mafia and your meta case will break the entire game open.
Maybe I'm actually town and finding the people that agree with a maybe weak case would expose them as mafia.
Maybe you can bring real insight into the game, despite your case.

You're literally not doing any of that and I'm tired of trying to probe you for even the most basic of explanations. I'm voting you tomorrow unless you can produce SOMETHING that makes me think better of you.


just screams that obi thinks VA is actually town??? Everything he says is mafia indicative but it's phrased in such an "i know you're town so do something or i vote you" kind of way it's ridiculous

Complete and utter bullshit. It is normal to talk to people like they are town like this and HF knows it.
On July 15 2015 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2015 04:26 ruXxar wrote:
Well he seems dead-set on shooting you so there's that :/.
I don't feel good about it but in a way it sort of clears up things.
LS said that he's fairly confident there's 1 mafia between you and rsoul, so if you flip green then we're probably going to lynch rsoul I hope.


if you believe that ls gave obiwanshinobi his gun then you might actually be mafia

Absolutely nonsensical statement.
On July 15 2015 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:00 Holyflare wrote:
man you guys calling the guy giving the TOWN COP a chance scummy while everyone else did shit all and afk'd

:D :D :D :D :D

get gud guys


I can be reasonable but you throwing scum at me for lame reasons (like tmi) is not going to work.
If I'm not mafia, who is?


i don't see how that's a lame argument at all, your filter is littered with defences of people multiple times at points where i don't think it was apt to defend people


It is lame and you know it.
I hard defend people literally ALL THE TIME in yet now, in THIS game, it's scummy, because ???


how do i know that? i don't read your posts ever because they are largely useless 1 liners that appear randomly at times i don't care about and just poe a team around you, this time you've been poe'd into the scum team and looking at your posts they seem largely unintuitive

i've also already said clarity's list is largely interchangeable with his null reads too so there's that which is quite apparent since it was like what? 2 posts ago? then there's the fact you're far far far too aggressive to people scum reading you for no reason whatsoever, it's a colossal overreaction on every account.

Further needless shitflinging while HF knows that Obi harddefends people as town all the time.


HF is probably mafia.


Good to know I'm not completely alone in thinking this scumread makes no sense.

On July 15 2015 05:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On July 15 2015 05:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:30 Harkon wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:22 Harkon wrote:
On July 15 2015 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
I said ows/oats because it was lazy poe but obi actually being serious is so out of character that he's probably mafia. Oats is probably town for not nking or rbing geript after the whole tmi shit and that whole argument was towny anyway for thinkint along those lines.

This is a very bad read and HF knows better. No matter what Obis alignment is he has been serious as town before and it is absolutely not out of character for him-
On July 15 2015 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
VA (and expert smurf hunter me says it's va) is probably mafia because he dislikes killing me, a jat shot is so shit in any game that it must be because jat was hinting at being blue and va likes hunting blues.

Ruxxar, you watching? Needless shitflinging once again. Not to mention that HF has killed me as scum multiple times and I basically always get shot if I am town.
On July 15 2015 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
From your perspective, is there anyone who as scum think they can keep you alive and then try to mislynch you/get you shot by town?

There is noone who would keep HF alive because he thinks he can mislynch him.
On July 15 2015 03:23 Holyflare wrote:
lol @ obi criticism of VA not doing anything, that's just flat out hilarious and major ++++++ scum points


Further shitflinging. Very productive.
On July 15 2015 03:34 Holyflare wrote:
Like seriously this is the most fake push I've ever seen someone do. Not only is VA a CHRONIC lurker and Obi absolutely knows that to be the case but this post:

On July 15 2015 03:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly if you get lynched at this point then you have nobody but yourself to blame. We've given you plenty of opportunities to try to make sense of things and all you do is come up with excuses to not explain things or not post.

Maybe I'm actually mafia and your meta case will break the entire game open.
Maybe I'm actually town and finding the people that agree with a maybe weak case would expose them as mafia.
Maybe you can bring real insight into the game, despite your case.

You're literally not doing any of that and I'm tired of trying to probe you for even the most basic of explanations. I'm voting you tomorrow unless you can produce SOMETHING that makes me think better of you.


just screams that obi thinks VA is actually town??? Everything he says is mafia indicative but it's phrased in such an "i know you're town so do something or i vote you" kind of way it's ridiculous

Complete and utter bullshit. It is normal to talk to people like they are town like this and HF knows it.
On July 15 2015 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2015 04:26 ruXxar wrote:
Well he seems dead-set on shooting you so there's that :/.
I don't feel good about it but in a way it sort of clears up things.
LS said that he's fairly confident there's 1 mafia between you and rsoul, so if you flip green then we're probably going to lynch rsoul I hope.


if you believe that ls gave obiwanshinobi his gun then you might actually be mafia

Absolutely nonsensical statement.
On July 15 2015 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 05:00 Holyflare wrote:
man you guys calling the guy giving the TOWN COP a chance scummy while everyone else did shit all and afk'd

:D :D :D :D :D

get gud guys


I can be reasonable but you throwing scum at me for lame reasons (like tmi) is not going to work.
If I'm not mafia, who is?


i don't see how that's a lame argument at all, your filter is littered with defences of people multiple times at points where i don't think it was apt to defend people


It is lame and you know it.
I hard defend people literally ALL THE TIME in yet now, in THIS game, it's scummy, because ???


how do i know that? i don't read your posts ever because they are largely useless 1 liners that appear randomly at times i don't care about and just poe a team around you, this time you've been poe'd into the scum team and looking at your posts they seem largely unintuitive

i've also already said clarity's list is largely interchangeable with his null reads too so there's that which is quite apparent since it was like what? 2 posts ago? then there's the fact you're far far far too aggressive to people scum reading you for no reason whatsoever, it's a colossal overreaction on every account.

Further needless shitflinging while HF knows that Obi harddefends people as town all the time.


HF is probably mafia.


Good to know I'm not completely alone in thinking this scumread makes no sense.

Just let it be known that I don't actually townread you. What HF says just isn't true/makes no sense.


I'm trying to follow. I've liked HF's push on OWS but I don't have any meta on either player, You're saying HF is scum for pushing OWS for the wrong reasons?


The reasons you are townreading Hf for are bad specifically because he can do everything you said makes him town as mafia.
Hf is on record knowing that I play exactly the way I'm playing now in yet he's trying to sell it now as a scumtell.

It is mostly based on meta, yes, but this push is garbage to anyone who knows both of us.

On July 15 2015 06:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rso go read the scum qt of my most recent newbie game to see that Hf is lying through his teeth.

On July 15 2015 07:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Ebh or Hf today.
Pick one.

On July 15 2015 08:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On July 15 2015 07:54 Holyflare wrote:
no maybe you've misread, it's almost entirely out of game reasons that i am mad and people are just needlessly antagonizing me and it's making it worse so i'd rather you kill me before i flame the entire game's worth of players

also, it should be obvious i'm town from obi's point that ksc's read on me was really forced and that only comes from mafia finding it hard to town read a towny because they have to come up with unintuitive reasons

anyway last last post


lol as if ksc reading you town for bad reasons has anything to do with either of our alignments. Flail more lmfao.



For someone that says i'm flailing/lying out of my teeth/posting bull shit/misrepresenting etc etc which would make me outrageously MAFIA over EBH who he scum reads for... doing what VA does every game lol???? Why is he quite content to NOT vote me?

On July 16 2015 04:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly I feel like the thread is too stagnant for this to be a 100% mafia lynch. I keep looking for reasons to not jump on this lynch but I can't find any aside from that.
So I'm thinking I look for mafia outside of this lynch or in the people that are jumping on it.
I can't find any.

Bleh.


like it doesn't make a single bit of sense in the slightest other than dodging another town lynch and is completely ass backwards from what he should be thinking in his mind about me
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 15 2015 23:54 GMT
#7057
On July 16 2015 08:44 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 16 2015 08:40 Holyflare wrote:
On July 16 2015 08:38 rsoultin wrote:
On July 16 2015 08:36 Holyflare wrote:
i think it's certainly enough, keep defending your mafia partner though! defending town and soft pushing his mafia partners all game and just sheeping along and dodging afk town lynches seems pretty mafia to me


ah so i'm mafia again in hf-world ^^ good to know. do you want me to bother looking into your case or not? xP


you actually always have been i just lied so people wouldn't be whiney bitches about me clogging up the thread about you, I don't think you've done anything at all for the past 3 cycles but comment on people's posts and do nothing


-snorts- if i need to put you on mute again, i will. this push of yours is retarded, baseless, clearly demonstrates you're not actually reading any of my posts, and at best just plain wrong ^^ and i've no interest sitting here fighting with you

you think that you should get special treatment "oh don't say bad things about me, don't scumread me, don't you see it just antagonizes me?" yeah. i'm done treating you with kid gloves, prima dona

and if you start your sniping shit whenever i try to do anything again, i will lynch you ^^


i don't particularly care, you ARE doing exactly what I said, it's not a snipe

if you think the opposite can you give me the work that you've done the past 3 cycles and how it has affected the game?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 23:57 GMT
#7058
On July 16 2015 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 08:44 rsoultin wrote:
On July 16 2015 08:40 Holyflare wrote:
On July 16 2015 08:38 rsoultin wrote:
On July 16 2015 08:36 Holyflare wrote:
i think it's certainly enough, keep defending your mafia partner though! defending town and soft pushing his mafia partners all game and just sheeping along and dodging afk town lynches seems pretty mafia to me


ah so i'm mafia again in hf-world ^^ good to know. do you want me to bother looking into your case or not? xP


you actually always have been i just lied so people wouldn't be whiney bitches about me clogging up the thread about you, I don't think you've done anything at all for the past 3 cycles but comment on people's posts and do nothing


-snorts- if i need to put you on mute again, i will. this push of yours is retarded, baseless, clearly demonstrates you're not actually reading any of my posts, and at best just plain wrong ^^ and i've no interest sitting here fighting with you

you think that you should get special treatment "oh don't say bad things about me, don't scumread me, don't you see it just antagonizes me?" yeah. i'm done treating you with kid gloves, prima dona

and if you start your sniping shit whenever i try to do anything again, i will lynch you ^^


i don't particularly care, you ARE doing exactly what I said, it's not a snipe

if you think the opposite can you give me the work that you've done the past 3 cycles and how it has affected the game?


nope ^^ you can read my filter instead of pretending that you have

i'm busy with something that actually matters
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 00:00 GMT
#7059
Well it's quite a simple question that deserves an honest answer. Not an argument or anything, if you're town then I am simply wrong on you and I have actually read your filter to get to that comment. I feel like my statement is correct. If you think the opposite can you please just tell me what you think you have pushed and what you have achieved in the past 3 cycles?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 16 2015 00:05 GMT
#7060
you clearly haven't, and frankly, if you think i haven't noticed that you're perfectly fine with me until i disagree with you and then you turn into a gremlin, calling me mafia instead of just arguing the point, you're grossly mistaken

i don't have to explain or defend myself to you. i've been involved in every major thing, literally every major thing that has gone on in this thread, and i realize that i haven't been at the forefront but y'all already knew i wouldn't be. you completely ignored context to concoct some bs case on me that i frankly ignored because even attempting to address it made me irrationally angry

so no. i am not going to defend my play to you. whenever you feel like getting off your ass and actually attempting to make a genuine read on me that isn't informed by ego, be my guest
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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