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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 22:04 GMT
#7001
On July 16 2015 07:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On July 16 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote:
On July 16 2015 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I already had a townread on bf and it's a bit wifom but I do think that scum!bf wouldn't do this like ever.


if you're talking about "dumbtells", he's making them up the ying-yang...i maybe could get behind that. but i guess it depends on why he's pushing this line of thinking


I don't think bf, who is in no danger to get lynched would go "hurr do how many scum are there" as scum to get some kinda wifom towncred. The much simpler explanation is that he just can't read and he's town

The problem I have with this game is that if either you or hts is scum you're not gonna get caught cause you're like the only reasonable people that post consistently, and it's very easy to be reasonable when town is flailing.

Btw LS is gunsmith there's like 0% that he's not, he gave a gun to hts and hts confirmed it. So even if hts is scum and shot MZ that doesn't make LS any less confirmed town.


lol the solution to reasonable people possibly being scum is always just to lynch us at lylo xP we won't make it that far

of course, clar i was asking because i wanted to see what got bf on this tangent in the first place? i don't think anyone who has kept up with the game would be doubting ls at all right now
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 15 2015 22:06 GMT
#7002
On July 16 2015 07:03 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote:
On July 16 2015 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I already had a townread on bf and it's a bit wifom but I do think that scum!bf wouldn't do this like ever.


if you're talking about "dumbtells", he's making them up the ying-yang...i maybe could get behind that. but i guess it depends on why he's pushing this line of thinking

I was thinking of a scenario of 3 scum members alive carrying KPs and LS claiming to only give guns to dead people, thus justifying the third KP. I'm completely backing off of that on second thought though.


alsdkjsaöldkjsaöldk good night.


yeah not possible with the setup

not calling you dumb, btw...a "dumbtell" means saying something that kinda telegraphs you're town because scum should already know it. some players do it on purpose, but i had the same thought as clarity when i saw your posting lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 22:07 GMT
#7003
Anyway this game sucks if HF is town because he's literally ruined the entire day phase in which we did not have a lynch lined up.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 15 2015 22:07 GMT
#7004
But boxerfred played his first newbie game as scum by pretending to be really dumb the whole game, no?

I don't think that his not knowing how many mafia there are is alignment indicative.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 22:09 GMT
#7005
But I guess being negative doesn't do anything.

I've reread EBH and despite all the "woe is me, nobody listen" I do have a townlean on him now.

Harkon and marv both thought vivax was town (or had a townlean) so I guess I'm keeping that..

I don't see what HtS is talking about in regards to breshke, he looks like someone who has a decent chance of flipping scum to me.

I can't wrap my head around ruxxar, but I'd be up for lynching him at some point.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 22:10 GMT
#7006
On July 16 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote:
But boxerfred played his first newbie game as scum by pretending to be really dumb the whole game, no?

I don't think that his not knowing how many mafia there are is alignment indicative.


Well if he really doesn't know how many mafia there are then that IS alignment indicative. So if he is scum that means he is faking this whole thing, does it look like he's faking to you?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 22:11 GMT
#7007
Newbie scum tend to overplay their newbieness, but newbie scum does not go "DAE not know how many scum there are?!?"
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 15 2015 22:14 GMT
#7008
What really aggravates me about this game is that all of the red flips have been due to other circumstances than people being convinced that they're scum.

We've been robbed of the whole dynamic where towards the lynch the mafia pop-up trying to defend their scum mates and divert the lynch onto someone else.

Without this it's hard to see the true alignment of people and it's pretty frustrating because the flips don't really tell us all that much.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 15 2015 22:17 GMT
#7009
Honestly Geript thought Damdred was scum before he tracked Damdred to ritoky.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 15 2015 22:18 GMT
#7010
Thinking about it I'm not sure if it's the majority vote rule or simply the nature of this game that has prevented it from happening.

I must say that a lot of the lynches has been pretty much auto and this is really the first day where we have no real clear target that we want to lynch if it wasn't for HF quitting.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 15 2015 22:20 GMT
#7011
On July 16 2015 07:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly Geript thought Damdred was scum before he tracked Damdred to ritoky.


Multiple people had scum-reads on damdred, but he was never in danger of getting lynched.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 15 2015 22:21 GMT
#7012
On July 16 2015 07:20 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 07:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly Geript thought Damdred was scum before he tracked Damdred to ritoky.


Multiple people had scum-reads on damdred, but he was never in danger of getting lynched.

True because we thought we had better targets Day 1.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 15 2015 22:25 GMT
#7013
On July 16 2015 07:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 07:20 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2015 07:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly Geript thought Damdred was scum before he tracked Damdred to ritoky.


Multiple people had scum-reads on damdred, but he was never in danger of getting lynched.

True because we thought we had better targets Day 1.


Exactly.
You get the most relevant information out of vote logic and people's stances when a scum is actually in danger of getting lynched.
Other than that it's not so useful.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 15 2015 22:29 GMT
#7014
ITT people complaining about their own policy lynch while qqing that nothing else is happening

btw clarity is mafia
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 22:30 GMT
#7015
Sigh
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 22:33 GMT
#7016
I can't even begin to imagine how you're going to explain that one. "Yeah I basically agree with all his reads but him policy lynching me when he thinks I have a good chance of flipping town makes him scum"

But hey if you're going to make a case, good for you.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 15 2015 22:34 GMT
#7017
On July 16 2015 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
ITT people complaining about their own policy lynch while qqing that nothing else is happening

btw clarity is mafia


Why?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 15 2015 22:36 GMT
#7018
Your whole "fuck you holyflare" was totally blown out of proportion and silly, you are complaining that nothing is happening "because of hf" yet you aren't actively trying to do anything yourself. You have silly impossible town reads on people (me) while people are constantly telling you otherwise, in fact JAT told you that my scum read on Obi was entirely fictitious and you didn't bat an eyelid and still called me towny. You keep saying i'm town based on nothing and won't ever look at my mafia games to tell you otherwise and are constantly saying you'll check but never do. You have a lot of questions and stuff saying "gj" but not much content yourself other than little side remarks on people.

Despite JAT saying my read on Obi was fictitious and HtS telling you otherwise you still made a scenario where you would base your read on Obi on my flip. That is both irrational and silly (scummy) because you can just go "oh look what hf said must be true let's lynch obi!" A lot of your play has been similar to all the things I have just mentioned.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 15 2015 22:38 GMT
#7019
On July 16 2015 07:36 Holyflare wrote:
Your whole "fuck you holyflare" was totally blown out of proportion and silly, you are complaining that nothing is happening "because of hf" yet you aren't actively trying to do anything yourself. You have silly impossible town reads on people (me) while people are constantly telling you otherwise, in fact JAT told you that my scum read on Obi was entirely fictitious and you didn't bat an eyelid and still called me towny. You keep saying i'm town based on nothing and won't ever look at my mafia games to tell you otherwise and are constantly saying you'll check but never do. You have a lot of questions and stuff saying "gj" but not much content yourself other than little side remarks on people.

Despite JAT saying my read on Obi was fictitious and HtS telling you otherwise you still made a scenario where you would base your read on Obi on my flip. That is both irrational and silly (scummy) because you can just go "oh look what hf said must be true let's lynch obi!" A lot of your play has been similar to all the things I have just mentioned.


I was gonna do work but then you martyred so now I'm just policy lynching you. Are you gonna play? There's plenty of time still.

JAT said the case was wrong but I disagree *shrug*
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 15 2015 22:42 GMT
#7020
On July 16 2015 07:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 07:36 Holyflare wrote:
Your whole "fuck you holyflare" was totally blown out of proportion and silly, you are complaining that nothing is happening "because of hf" yet you aren't actively trying to do anything yourself. You have silly impossible town reads on people (me) while people are constantly telling you otherwise, in fact JAT told you that my scum read on Obi was entirely fictitious and you didn't bat an eyelid and still called me towny. You keep saying i'm town based on nothing and won't ever look at my mafia games to tell you otherwise and are constantly saying you'll check but never do. You have a lot of questions and stuff saying "gj" but not much content yourself other than little side remarks on people.

Despite JAT saying my read on Obi was fictitious and HtS telling you otherwise you still made a scenario where you would base your read on Obi on my flip. That is both irrational and silly (scummy) because you can just go "oh look what hf said must be true let's lynch obi!" A lot of your play has been similar to all the things I have just mentioned.


I was gonna do work but then you martyred so now I'm just policy lynching you. Are you gonna play? There's plenty of time still.

JAT said the case was wrong but I disagree *shrug*


How does me martyring excuse you from playing the game? This is the second time in a row that you have used this excuse to dodge doing anything productive and the last time that happened the town cop milo died. A locked in martyr policy lynch does not stop you from getting scum reads and playing the game, especially as you have telegraphed that I am going to flip town numerous times.

How can you simply disagree with JAT when my case was partly based on meta which JAT said Obi does as town? HtS has also given you games to compare it in and you STILL maintain that you like it? I don't believe that in the slightest. It's simply another case of you disregarding actual facts from other games and meta for no reason and it's pretty scummy.
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