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On July 16 2015 07:02 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I already had a townread on bf and it's a bit wifom but I do think that scum!bf wouldn't do this like ever. if you're talking about "dumbtells", he's making them up the ying-yang...i maybe could get behind that. but i guess it depends on why he's pushing this line of thinking I don't think bf, who is in no danger to get lynched would go "hurr do how many scum are there" as scum to get some kinda wifom towncred. The much simpler explanation is that he just can't read and he's town  The problem I have with this game is that if either you or hts is scum you're not gonna get caught cause you're like the only reasonable people that post consistently, and it's very easy to be reasonable when town is flailing. Btw LS is gunsmith there's like 0% that he's not, he gave a gun to hts and hts confirmed it. So even if hts is scum and shot MZ that doesn't make LS any less confirmed town.
lol the solution to reasonable people possibly being scum is always just to lynch us at lylo xP we won't make it that far
of course, clar  i was asking because i wanted to see what got bf on this tangent in the first place? i don't think anyone who has kept up with the game would be doubting ls at all right now
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On July 16 2015 07:03 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I already had a townread on bf and it's a bit wifom but I do think that scum!bf wouldn't do this like ever. if you're talking about "dumbtells", he's making them up the ying-yang...i maybe could get behind that. but i guess it depends on why he's pushing this line of thinking I was thinking of a scenario of 3 scum members alive carrying KPs and LS claiming to only give guns to dead people, thus justifying the third KP. I'm completely backing off of that on second thought though. alsdkjsaöldkjsaöldk good night.
yeah not possible with the setup
not calling you dumb, btw...a "dumbtell" means saying something that kinda telegraphs you're town because scum should already know it. some players do it on purpose, but i had the same thought as clarity when i saw your posting lol ><
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Anyway this game sucks if HF is town because he's literally ruined the entire day phase in which we did not have a lynch lined up.
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But boxerfred played his first newbie game as scum by pretending to be really dumb the whole game, no?
I don't think that his not knowing how many mafia there are is alignment indicative.
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But I guess being negative doesn't do anything.
I've reread EBH and despite all the "woe is me, nobody listen" I do have a townlean on him now.
Harkon and marv both thought vivax was town (or had a townlean) so I guess I'm keeping that..
I don't see what HtS is talking about in regards to breshke, he looks like someone who has a decent chance of flipping scum to me.
I can't wrap my head around ruxxar, but I'd be up for lynching him at some point.
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On July 16 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote:
But boxerfred played his first newbie game as scum by pretending to be really dumb the whole game, no?
I don't think that his not knowing how many mafia there are is alignment indicative.
Well if he really doesn't know how many mafia there are then that IS alignment indicative. So if he is scum that means he is faking this whole thing, does it look like he's faking to you?
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Newbie scum tend to overplay their newbieness, but newbie scum does not go "DAE not know how many scum there are?!?"
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What really aggravates me about this game is that all of the red flips have been due to other circumstances than people being convinced that they're scum.
We've been robbed of the whole dynamic where towards the lynch the mafia pop-up trying to defend their scum mates and divert the lynch onto someone else.
Without this it's hard to see the true alignment of people and it's pretty frustrating because the flips don't really tell us all that much.
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Honestly Geript thought Damdred was scum before he tracked Damdred to ritoky.
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Thinking about it I'm not sure if it's the majority vote rule or simply the nature of this game that has prevented it from happening.
I must say that a lot of the lynches has been pretty much auto and this is really the first day where we have no real clear target that we want to lynch if it wasn't for HF quitting.
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On July 16 2015 07:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly Geript thought Damdred was scum before he tracked Damdred to ritoky.
Multiple people had scum-reads on damdred, but he was never in danger of getting lynched.
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On July 16 2015 07:20 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 07:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly Geript thought Damdred was scum before he tracked Damdred to ritoky. Multiple people had scum-reads on damdred, but he was never in danger of getting lynched.
True because we thought we had better targets Day 1.
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On July 16 2015 07:21 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 07:20 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2015 07:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly Geript thought Damdred was scum before he tracked Damdred to ritoky. Multiple people had scum-reads on damdred, but he was never in danger of getting lynched. True because we thought we had better targets Day 1.
Exactly.
You get the most relevant information out of vote logic and people's stances when a scum is actually in danger of getting lynched.
Other than that it's not so useful.
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ITT people complaining about their own policy lynch while qqing that nothing else is happening
btw clarity is mafia
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I can't even begin to imagine how you're going to explain that one. "Yeah I basically agree with all his reads but him policy lynching me when he thinks I have a good chance of flipping town makes him scum"
But hey if you're going to make a case, good for you.
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On July 16 2015 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
ITT people complaining about their own policy lynch while qqing that nothing else is happening
btw clarity is mafia
Why?
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Your whole "fuck you holyflare" was totally blown out of proportion and silly, you are complaining that nothing is happening "because of hf" yet you aren't actively trying to do anything yourself. You have silly impossible town reads on people (me) while people are constantly telling you otherwise, in fact JAT told you that my scum read on Obi was entirely fictitious and you didn't bat an eyelid and still called me towny. You keep saying i'm town based on nothing and won't ever look at my mafia games to tell you otherwise and are constantly saying you'll check but never do. You have a lot of questions and stuff saying "gj" but not much content yourself other than little side remarks on people.
Despite JAT saying my read on Obi was fictitious and HtS telling you otherwise you still made a scenario where you would base your read on Obi on my flip. That is both irrational and silly (scummy) because you can just go "oh look what hf said must be true let's lynch obi!" A lot of your play has been similar to all the things I have just mentioned.
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On July 16 2015 07:36 Holyflare wrote:
Your whole "fuck you holyflare" was totally blown out of proportion and silly, you are complaining that nothing is happening "because of hf" yet you aren't actively trying to do anything yourself. You have silly impossible town reads on people (me) while people are constantly telling you otherwise, in fact JAT told you that my scum read on Obi was entirely fictitious and you didn't bat an eyelid and still called me towny. You keep saying i'm town based on nothing and won't ever look at my mafia games to tell you otherwise and are constantly saying you'll check but never do. You have a lot of questions and stuff saying "gj" but not much content yourself other than little side remarks on people.
Despite JAT saying my read on Obi was fictitious and HtS telling you otherwise you still made a scenario where you would base your read on Obi on my flip. That is both irrational and silly (scummy) because you can just go "oh look what hf said must be true let's lynch obi!" A lot of your play has been similar to all the things I have just mentioned.
I was gonna do work but then you martyred so now I'm just policy lynching you. Are you gonna play? There's plenty of time still.
JAT said the case was wrong but I disagree *shrug*
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On July 16 2015 07:38 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 07:36 Holyflare wrote:
Your whole "fuck you holyflare" was totally blown out of proportion and silly, you are complaining that nothing is happening "because of hf" yet you aren't actively trying to do anything yourself. You have silly impossible town reads on people (me) while people are constantly telling you otherwise, in fact JAT told you that my scum read on Obi was entirely fictitious and you didn't bat an eyelid and still called me towny. You keep saying i'm town based on nothing and won't ever look at my mafia games to tell you otherwise and are constantly saying you'll check but never do. You have a lot of questions and stuff saying "gj" but not much content yourself other than little side remarks on people.
Despite JAT saying my read on Obi was fictitious and HtS telling you otherwise you still made a scenario where you would base your read on Obi on my flip. That is both irrational and silly (scummy) because you can just go "oh look what hf said must be true let's lynch obi!" A lot of your play has been similar to all the things I have just mentioned. I was gonna do work but then you martyred so now I'm just policy lynching you. Are you gonna play? There's plenty of time still. JAT said the case was wrong but I disagree *shrug*
How does me martyring excuse you from playing the game? This is the second time in a row that you have used this excuse to dodge doing anything productive and the last time that happened the town cop milo died. A locked in martyr policy lynch does not stop you from getting scum reads and playing the game, especially as you have telegraphed that I am going to flip town numerous times.
How can you simply disagree with JAT when my case was partly based on meta which JAT said Obi does as town? HtS has also given you games to compare it in and you STILL maintain that you like it? I don't believe that in the slightest. It's simply another case of you disregarding actual facts from other games and meta for no reason and it's pretty scummy.
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