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On July 16 2015 22:45 Holyflare wrote:
Uh the only time i bring up my own meta is when people say i only do x as scum and i show them i do it as town too. It's hardly a defence to say something is shit and wrong meta especially when it's their sole reason for reading me as mafia.
I like how you ignore the last sentence though. I simply was in no position to think clearly about the game and now i am. This is the most bull shit opportune vote of the century though. I stake my reputation on you being mafia. Have fun after my flip because people will 100% afk sheep me.
I have no reason to believe or disbelieve it, so I'm simply choosing to ignore it.
You were playing the game just fine prior to today.
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On July 16 2015 22:47 Holyflare wrote:Somehow the hard town read turned into a spite vote which turned into a solid mafia read all while all i did was post content that clarity liked! You guys be the judge 
It's not a solid mafia read, but I'm fine with your lynch now, make of that what you will. I've given my reasons.
If you are town reread me and make damn sure you're happy with your scumread because if you're town then you are losing us the game.
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On July 16 2015 22:52 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 22:49 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 16 2015 22:47 Holyflare wrote:Somehow the hard town read turned into a spite vote which turned into a solid mafia read all while all i did was post content that clarity liked! You guys be the judge It's not a solid mafia read, but I'm fine with your lynch now, make of that what you will. I've given my reasons. If you are town reread me and make damn sure you're happy with your scumread because if you're town then you are losing us the game. Actually I'm not losing anyone the game. Why does me being wrong on you change a read? I think my reasons are entirely legitimate and besides that why would it matter anyway? I've just posted my thoughts all cycle and you have said nothing about any of it other than it could be a bus. Ok clarity mr not do anything for 3 solid lynches and blames the guy actually giving solid reasoning for his reads.
This is true, but it doesn't mean anything.
And yes you are losing the game if you're town and you somehow convince people to lynch me after you.
Suddenly I've done nothing all game? I guess our reads n3 just lined up by sheer luck, seeing as you told people to sheep me after you got lynched?
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You know this whole saying you're gonna afk from now on doesn't work if you come back every time after you say it?
But you know what, yes my vote on you started mainly as just anger at your martyring for no reason, I'm still kinda angry at you. So I'm gonna take a break now and reread some stuff and see if I can change my mind.
fwiw I think your 180 on me has decent reasoning, but the timing is super suspect. The fact that you're playing on my emotions more than my rational thoughts actually makes it more likely you're scum I think.
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On July 16 2015 23:03 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul I think it is unfair to say HF has been shitting up the thread since he came back from his most recent matry i agree he has been fairly resonable like at least towards me the way he dissasembled my attempt at POE was rather useful and he was the only person to actually like interact with me about that. Im not saying it makes him town because he would probably do that as mafia aswell because i dont see how he would think coming back to the thread and shitting it up would help him if he was mafia at this stage.
Also HF i really think rsoul is town like i know it was ages ago but i really feel like that read I gave on her was legit and the like one thing this game i feel really confident about other than HTS being town.
It is really strange obi just left like that IDK i get if he is town where the frustration comes from but i don't get why it was so intense so fast. urghh i don't even know if i want to lynch clarity there is seriously like noone i have strong feelings about lynching cant we just kill wos he will probs get modkilled anyway
No, that's a terrible idea.
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On July 16 2015 23:15 boxerfred wrote:
Im considering unvoting hf
And who is your alternative?
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On July 16 2015 23:23 boxerfred wrote:
My reasoning behind voting hf was sheeping ls and the idea of high risk high reward. Not lynching him since by now i feel like there is too much new information to work with, also due to hfs posts over the day. However it he flips scum in a Situation where i unvoted him ill probably be lynched next day. So i actually Think im gonna trust and even sheep hin. Off to the voting thread it goes. I committed now, lets see it it changes anything for good.
Okay so, first off, I would stay clear of sheeping LS ever.
Second, you shouldn't be doing or not doing things because you fear you might look like scum, unless you know, you're scum.
Third, Let's just assume you aren't made of paper-mache, who do you want to lynch instead?
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So you think trfel is scum for voting for confirmed town, because only scum would do that?
And you think WoS is scum for being completely afk, because only scum would do that?
And you're okay with my lynch becauseeee?
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Okay so to get this straight:
Me
trfel
WoS
rsoultin
HtS
You think there's 3 scum in these 5 people?
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On July 16 2015 23:35 boxerfred wrote:
Whoa clarity youre annoying with your wuestions that dont have a point. Ill Do What you do, which is saying "take it or leave it "
I'm pointing out how all the things you're saying are baseless, that's my point.
Explain why you're okay with lynching me.
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On July 16 2015 23:38 boxerfred wrote:
Its so fun how you interpret a "im fine with a lynch " as a "Top scumread hang the guy ". Hit a nerve?
Yes. You hit a nerve.
So you're saying you are okay with my lynch but you have no reason?
On July 16 2015 23:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
So you think trfel is scum for voting for confirmed town, because only scum would do that?
And you think WoS is scum for being completely afk, because only scum would do that?
And you're okay with my lynch becauseeee?
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So much sigh in your responses, how hard is it to answer questions?
You didn't say that actually, until just now. You just gave 5 people you would lynch over HF yet you don't want to unvote HF in case he's scum??? How does that make ANY sense.
Not only that, but you have no reasons for any of the names on your list (except for me) and you somehow had a hard time admitting that you were sheeping HF.
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On July 16 2015 23:52 boxerfred wrote:
ah screw it
##vote Clarity I really think I hit something there.
Hurr durr Clarity asking me questions and not checking the voting thread.
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Because scum are full of doubt when everyone else jumps on a single wagon, right?
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On July 17 2015 00:07 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Because scum are full of doubt when everyone else jumps on a single wagon, right? You sure wanna go down this thought process when you're on the HF train, right?
I think HtS and rsoultin are town, so yes.
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Like even if you're right and HtS is scum (I don't think you are) then it's not because she hasn't voted yet. It's an absurd reason.
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On July 17 2015 00:09 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:07 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Because scum are full of doubt when everyone else jumps on a single wagon, right? You sure wanna go down this thought process when you're on the HF train, right? I think HtS and rsoultin are town, so yes. If you wouldn't mind to stop asking pointless questions (I know that you think my read is plain bull shit) or point out already known things (your town reads on HtS and rsoultin), you could actually read Ruxxar's huge post and start arguing how your town read, rsoultin, is actually town and not scum.
I have a hard time figuring out ruxxar's post. He's made several huge posts today but they all feel like "look at how much work I'm doing!". Like yeah, HF has done a lot, I agree. Rsoultin has done less than HF, I agree with that too. However her thoughts seem natural and they align with mine a lot.
I still think you're town. I think your reasoning for things, especially in the last two pages, has been especially atrocious and I'm pointing out why but you're ignoring me and just going full steam ahead anyway.
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On July 17 2015 00:10 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like even if you're right and HtS is scum (I don't think you are) then it's not because she hasn't voted yet. It's an absurd reason. I am not saying that I think she's scum for that reason. It just fits the picture that I have, that's it. Your picking the worst things to disprove them, do you know that? Also how can you so hardcore townread rsoultin when Ruxxar just made a very informative post on her?
This is absurd. Yeah I can say "in my world where X and Y are scum this all fits" and then point at a ton of NAI things. It just doesn't mean anything. Point out why you DO think they're scum, rather than why a bunch of things fit. I literally have no idea why you think HtS is scum
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On July 17 2015 00:17 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:12 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:09 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:07 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Because scum are full of doubt when everyone else jumps on a single wagon, right? You sure wanna go down this thought process when you're on the HF train, right? I think HtS and rsoultin are town, so yes. If you wouldn't mind to stop asking pointless questions (I know that you think my read is plain bull shit) or point out already known things (your town reads on HtS and rsoultin), you could actually read Ruxxar's huge post and start arguing how your town read, rsoultin, is actually town and not scum. I have a hard time figuring out ruxxar's post. He's made several huge posts today but they all feel like "look at how much work I'm doing!". Like yeah, HF has done a lot, I agree. Rsoultin has done less than HF, I agree with that too. However her thoughts seem natural and they align with mine a lot. I still think you're town. I think your reasoning for things, especially in the last two pages, has been especially atrocious and I'm pointing out why but you're ignoring me and just going full steam ahead anyway. Yet you hard town read her. Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 19:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
HF I kinda want to lynch you out of spite now, and the fact that I'll feel really really dumb if you're scum and I didn't lynch you. But I'm still liking your push on OWS
Decisions decisions.
Oh btw if you flip scum now I will entertain the thought that you're bussing OWS. Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 22:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
I actually think HF has been contributing useful stuff. Like I like his push on OWS and I like his reasoning for townreading oats for starters.
However I struggle to see how he martyrs, and then when he comes back he 180s on me. Like he goes from "clarity's thoughts align with mine, sheep him when I'm dead" to "clarity confirmed scum for believing in my OWS push and never wavering in his townread of me" when I did in fact waver quite a bit, I gave harkon plenty of opportunity to explain to me why he thinks HF is scum and I was going to read up on HF, however HF martyrs and suddenly I just don't give a shit. I was dreading having to go through HF's meta of games I wasn't in but I would have done it, but this is just dumb.
HF by the time you started getting milo to talk I was convinced he was scum, he had practically given up and was not trying to defend himself nor was he scumhunting. I believed in my case and all my townreads were calling him scum.
Only in the last hour or two did he start sounding like town but I think that's the easiest bit to fake "woe is me I'm so sorry guys I should have played better"
I have not been disruptive at all so you are clearly misrepresenting me. So you're not even providing decent reasons to lynch HF. You're just saying "well I like him but I vote him". Then, you feel stunned due to him 180'ing you but do not even realize that I town leaned you before and now you're my top scum read? How does that not bother you, wtf? Sorry, so much inconsistency in so little time. Your whole day feels like you're trying to get HF lynched without making the impression to actually want to lynch him.
HF is a better player than you. Also you have no incentive to change your read, he does.
Also right after the phrase you bolded I explained my townread on rsoultin.
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