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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 02 2015 23:32 GMT
#357
On July 03 2015 05:10 ComaDose wrote:
sorry for the fluffy post that was my first post and i'm really new to mafia but yes i did not support asmo as mayor

I legit have no history to read into in mafia and it seems like a lot of people know how others play from the past so i feel at a disadvantage and dont want to put myself out there too much making hard claims

who do i support for mayor... hmm... well LT, mordek, cixah, and asmo seem inclined to vote for plot. I dont know how common it is for someone to fake a claim but if he is on the level then a "neutral" mayor would probably lynch the most popular pick at the time in the thread which seems probably good.

I agree that soniv and wave seem to be doing good town work and maybe that would be an okay place to bestow the mayor mantle as well. might even stretch to include LT in this group because i feel like his statement about HF was more for bait than an actual clumsy scum move.

cixah was a proponent for asmo and only said plot would be an okay choice too but a few people are leaning toward thinking he is scum: soniv, VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, and wave seemed pretty set on voting for someone who would lynch him


Coma, there are a lot of words here, but you're not saying a whole lot. You're largely just summarizing what other people have said, and adding a bit of speculation. Do you have any soft reads? Any leanings?

On July 03 2015 06:00 Holyflare wrote:
vote me or dandel

[image loading]


Oh man that's super tempting actually.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 03 2015 16:09 GMT
#403
On July 03 2015 23:13 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2015 06:52 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On July 03 2015 06:50 ComaDose wrote:
i think you just voted cixah for mayor tho


ty based Coma we bros now

help me find the sinister mods

I have always been, and will continue to be, an anti-mod activist + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

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On July 03 2015 08:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 03 2015 05:10 ComaDose wrote:
sorry for the fluffy post that was my first post and i'm really new to mafia but yes i did not support asmo as mayor

I legit have no history to read into in mafia and it seems like a lot of people know how others play from the past so i feel at a disadvantage and dont want to put myself out there too much making hard claims

who do i support for mayor... hmm... well LT, mordek, cixah, and asmo seem inclined to vote for plot. I dont know how common it is for someone to fake a claim but if he is on the level then a "neutral" mayor would probably lynch the most popular pick at the time in the thread which seems probably good.

I agree that soniv and wave seem to be doing good town work and maybe that would be an okay place to bestow the mayor mantle as well. might even stretch to include LT in this group because i feel like his statement about HF was more for bait than an actual clumsy scum move.

cixah was a proponent for asmo and only said plot would be an okay choice too but a few people are leaning toward thinking he is scum: soniv, VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, and wave seemed pretty set on voting for someone who would lynch him


Coma, there are a lot of words here, but you're not saying a whole lot. You're largely just summarizing what other people have said, and adding a bit of speculation. Do you have any soft reads? Any leanings?


The shit storm seems to be revolving around VE and Cixah as the most likely lynches presently. I don't understand why people are mad at VE so much, and interestingly Cixah is the one who pointed the finger there first. He just seemed frustrated by the shit storm. before that he was legitimately leaning on people which appeared to me to be in good faith detective work. Im not sure if freaking out after getting fingered (heh) is really scummy or if its just frustrated townie. If I recall Cixah and Req reacted with the same frustration last game and both flipped town. I'm not clearing them by any means but its consistent with what i said at the time. On the flip side I havn't really seen Cixah contribute as most of his finger pointing has just been at who ever is not participating at the moment.


You're not wrong that 6ah is acting similarly to how Req acted in the last game (although definitely less...extreme). And the reason I think 6ah is scum now is still similar to why I thought Req was scum. He is acting/reacting scummily. He got very defensive immediately when any shadow of doubt was pointed to him. I agree with VE that early D1 soft blue claiming is really terrible.

It is concerning to me that the trend seems to be to give some of the more veteran players a free pass to do fuck all for D1. BM, HF, VE (although less than the others), Dandelion, even Wave isn't really trying much. It's not a "try hard" game, but that doesn't mean it's not a "try" game. But they have done fairly little and I'm not really able to form any real read on them yet. Of them, my thoughts seem to be most in line with VE's at this point.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 03 2015 16:17 GMT
#405
Also, at this point, I'm not terribly opposed to plotspot winning mayorship. My brain just still doesn't know how to think about/accept about the 3p claim. I don't if I've ever actually seen someone just come out and claim that so early lol
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 03 2015 16:45 GMT
#421
On July 04 2015 01:35 GlowingBear wrote:
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On July 04 2015 01:31 Lord Tolkien wrote:
aka, while I accept that GB has valid reasons for not voting for pol, I have no clue why he wants to make Wave mayor.


I explained why I think Wave is most likely town


You also said I'm town. Pretty sure you think I'm more townie than Wave. I also have a scumread on 6ah. Why Wave over me?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 03 2015 17:06 GMT
#429
On July 04 2015 02:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
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On July 04 2015 01:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:49 ComaDose wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:26 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Wave of Shadow

You DO realise that voting the guy that doesn't even know his alignment will make the flip way less informational, right? Because he doesn't even have motivation behind his votes

I think this is a good point. If the one who is lynched flips mod, we can be reasonably sure that the mayor was not mod. If they flip town well... people make mistakes but based off of how many people agree with the decision it could still be telling.
if we choose someone who doesnt know their alignment then they could pick mod but then still end up being mod themselves.

Yeah except Tolk has openly stated he now thinks me and 6ah are scum together, so he's set himself up to be able to still push me/further discredit things I say.

I'm so tempted just to vote Tolk to watch him mislynch just so I can lord it over him but that's shit play and also might be exactly what he's going for. I truly can't tell if he's just being an ass or if he has scum motives on this.

I said it was interesting, not plausible or believable.


Then why say it at all? Random conjecture like that is sketchy - it makes you able to say what you want, but no one can hold you accountable for it? "It's just a prank, bro"
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 03 2015 18:32 GMT
#456
On July 04 2015 03:10 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Again, You're only on the list of people to lynch because at this stage I can't advocate lynching lurkers because no info on them right now (aka mordek and BM and co.), so it's flipping a coin, and I do like some of your recent posts after the vote post.

Still,

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On July 03 2015 05:10 ComaDose wrote:
Your right im always scared to point fingers too hard because at this point its all speculation and being wrong sucks and makes me look bad. I do think summarizing who pushed where like i did is valuable and know i will reference it later. I'll be completely honest instead of forcing anything and summarize what I'm thinking.

I'm wrong all the time, and that doesn't phase me.

Who cares if you're wrong at any given moment, as long as you make the most of the information you have, or are actively trying to fish for more information for town.

Also, summaries are generally eh. They're an easy way for people to gain town-cred without actually contributing any new insight to town.

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Lots of leanings pretty similar to what i wrote above. you wave and LT seemed to be doing town work but we will have to see if that continues today and i def wouldn't call it a hard read. Glowing bear leans town for me too but thats just because he has put some work in, even if he did incorrectly suspect me. Asmo leans town for me too saying things like "it would be bad for town for me to be mayor" and we bros now and im only bros with OT posters.

You are correct in that I'm confirmed town, but this isn't too useful as a whole. Specifically, Asmo hasn't actually said or done anything particularly useful, since the "asmo for mayor" thing was mostly to test reactions. Also I'm fairly certain everyone's said this before, so this isn't really new reads or leanings (aka easy for scum to piggyback off other peoples' reads).

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The shit storm seems to be revolving around VE and Cixah as the most likely lynches presently. I don't understand why people are mad at VE so much, and interestingly Cixah is the one who pointed the finger there first. He just seemed frustrated by the shit storm. before that he was legitimately leaning on people which appeared to me to be in good faith detective work. Im not sure if freaking out after getting fingered (heh) is really scummy or if its just frustrated townie. If I recall Cixah and Req reacted with the same frustration last game and both flipped town. I'm not clearing them by any means but its consistent with what i said at the time. On the flip side I havn't really seen Cixah contribute as most of his finger pointing has just been at who ever is not participating at the moment.

One thing I will point out is that you yourself seemed as eager to vote for asmo as cixah for the same logic. Nothing wrong with that as it was the start of D1 but lots of people were mad at cixah for the random push. But now he is calling for asmo's lynch and is doing a 180 really a scum thing to do if they know who is scum already? I don't actually know.

pls no soft defense. You generally don't want to defend people up for lynches D1, since you want them to defend themselves. And if you're going to defend, go all out, because soft defending someone is scummy, especially D1. It's an easy way for scum to go "oh hey I knew he was town" but not actually stop the lynch.

This is the section which I really don't like.


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If i had to say who i thought was leaning mod I'd say BM, Dandel and HF for just abstaining for the most part from actually playing/contributing. BM has a serious asmo for mayor agenda I also don't understand. Mordek gets a pass cause he is on vacation i believe but need to hear more from him when he gets back. Sorry this is still just more speculation, hopefully letting you know what I'm thinking will help.

Calling lurkers scum is easy, but not necessarily true in this level of play. Doesn't add anything of note. And Dandel isn't actually lurking.

Also,
#vote: Dandel Ion
Getting a really strong town read, and I trust his judgement.

My order of preference:
Myself=Dandel>pol>>>everyone else


Ugh, LT, this post...I don't know what to think.

For most of the day, I've gotten fairly town readings from you. But there are certain things (ie. strutting around that you're "confirmed town") that I really dislike about your play.

I find myself nodding along with a lot of the things you say in the above post. But I don't understand how you have a solid town read on dandel. He may not be lurking, but he's not contributed tons, and I'm not sure how you can have a strong read on anyone at this point.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 03 2015 19:23 GMT
#487
On July 04 2015 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
man do i actually have to explain it real logic like
ugh

I would real talk probably like 75% lynch asmo for
1)
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 21:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Just so I'M not accused of doing nothing, [...]

2) His frankly puzzling stance on plotspot mayor - pushing a survivor/traitor based on his claim while caveating always a "oh but we should really try to find a townie!"
3) does not try to find a townie
4) pushing Cixah* like he did

Other options to contemplate are imo VE for getting baited* and then going full emo and pissing off
And Coma for not having opinions and instead doing summaries and captain obvious posting. real men admit when they don't have opinions and post memes. just look at hf. he is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
That's just from what I'm thinking, realistically I would never actually lynch coma today, if I was that desperate I'd just lynch the claimed traitor easy pickings ggyo real #dank

*I'm thinking cixah is noob town scumbait atm
as such not inclined to d1 lynch him personally
but if somebody else gets elected and killa him i would not shed tear 0/10


I'm beginning to think they both might be noob bait, tbh. I'm getting similar feelings to last game when I tunneled Req. Yes, the way both of them have been acting is scummy. It's the same thing I read on Req. But I was also wrong then.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 03 2015 20:13 GMT
#502
On July 04 2015 04:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 04:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
man do i actually have to explain it real logic like
ugh

I would real talk probably like 75% lynch asmo for
1)
On July 02 2015 21:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Just so I'M not accused of doing nothing, [...]

2) His frankly puzzling stance on plotspot mayor - pushing a survivor/traitor based on his claim while caveating always a "oh but we should really try to find a townie!"
3) does not try to find a townie
4) pushing Cixah* like he did

Other options to contemplate are imo VE for getting baited* and then going full emo and pissing off
And Coma for not having opinions and instead doing summaries and captain obvious posting. real men admit when they don't have opinions and post memes. just look at hf. he is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
That's just from what I'm thinking, realistically I would never actually lynch coma today, if I was that desperate I'd just lynch the claimed traitor easy pickings ggyo real #dank

*I'm thinking cixah is noob town scumbait atm
as such not inclined to d1 lynch him personally
but if somebody else gets elected and killa him i would not shed tear 0/10


I'm beginning to think they both might be noob bait, tbh. I'm getting similar feelings to last game when I tunneled Req. Yes, the way both of them have been acting is scummy. It's the same thing I read on Req. But I was also wrong then.

You might be right, but again explain why if 6ah is noob bait that his play was exceptionally better last game?
(Also how did ranked go )


No, I mean, that's the issue. Although, to be frank, I don't remember his play last game being much of anything remarkable. But I do think he should know better, at least.

But I'm honestly starting to think LT is town (as much as I hate the arrogance). He is playing fairly similarly to the way you did last game - talk a lot, be aggressive, look at a lot of stuff. But the worst thing right now is the bullshit associations he's throwing everywhere.

On July 04 2015 04:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:16 Cixah wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:05 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 03:58 Cixah wrote:
Reasons why you shouldn't lynch me.

1) In 100% games of mafia I have rolled town, and in 100% of games I have played with Asmo he has been Mafia.
2) Asmo's play is very similar to his previous game mafia play. Lots of poking and deflecting rather than saying anything that hasn't been echo'd or otherwise overly town.
3) While a non tryhard game, there are people who have contributed nothing to the game at all other than dank memes and were still looking to not lynch them? How is that even cool yo.

In response to each.

1) Asmo wasn't scum in the last OT mafia, bro.
2) See above.
3) I do agree, but the lurkers are either 1) mordek and on vaca apparently, 2) Holyflare and Bill Murray, who are experienced at mafia (I can only assume with BM since I've never played with him), and are not viable D1 lynches (because you can generally assume if they live long enough, they're scum).

You're not a guaranteed kill, because Dandel wants to lynch VE (which...I'm iffy for flip info reasons but I can totally get behind), and I'm sure some people are thinking of lynching me D1 as usual, but eh. Try to not tunnel on Asmo.

What are your reads outside of Asmo?


Stupid pen icon. Confusing it for OWB.

Outside of Asmo, My town circle consists of Soniv, Dandel, and Coma right now. Scum reads go for Wave, Asmo, and BM right now. Less so on BM, but I don't recall hearing from him in awhile.

Explanation for the bolded why


To be honest, the increasing lack of pushback on a 6ah lynch up until dandel posted his asmo case, with everyone just ambling towards it, is very fishy.

This is never good evidence.
I've made this exact post as scum before.

It indicates one of two things.

1) easy lynch on town that scum is content on
2) + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Given how early the case on 6ah started to form, and, let's be honest, the fact that the game was suppose to be "not-tryhard", I doubt scum-team would bus 6ah this early.

Also, I do buy dandel's reasoning on asmo, though keeping in mind that asmo is also nub. Then again, he is Austrian, so this may lead to World War Two all over again if we elect him mayor. Still, my strongest town read.

WIth 4(?) hours to go it indicates absolutely nothing.
You also forget there are a shit ton of people not even here.

There are 3 people. HF, BM, and mordek, who lurked and has offered no opinion on 6ah.

As for everyone else, there has been some degree of "lynch 6ah now" from you/asmo/VE, to I'd be fine with lynching him/he's leaning scum (everyone else). Only 1 person "soft" defended them (Coma).

No counter-current whatsoever outside of coma who was lol.


I agree with you. Although Wave is partially right, with 4 hours left, janky things can happen with counter pressure. But the lack of resistance thus far is giving me pause as well.

On July 04 2015 04:03 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote dandel ion


Did you no longer wish to be mayor? Cuz yesterday, I said tomorrow.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 03 2015 20:35 GMT
#511
On July 04 2015 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 05:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
man do i actually have to explain it real logic like
ugh

I would real talk probably like 75% lynch asmo for
1)
On July 02 2015 21:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Just so I'M not accused of doing nothing, [...]

2) His frankly puzzling stance on plotspot mayor - pushing a survivor/traitor based on his claim while caveating always a "oh but we should really try to find a townie!"
3) does not try to find a townie
4) pushing Cixah* like he did

Other options to contemplate are imo VE for getting baited* and then going full emo and pissing off
And Coma for not having opinions and instead doing summaries and captain obvious posting. real men admit when they don't have opinions and post memes. just look at hf. he is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
That's just from what I'm thinking, realistically I would never actually lynch coma today, if I was that desperate I'd just lynch the claimed traitor easy pickings ggyo real #dank

*I'm thinking cixah is noob town scumbait atm
as such not inclined to d1 lynch him personally
but if somebody else gets elected and killa him i would not shed tear 0/10


I'm beginning to think they both might be noob bait, tbh. I'm getting similar feelings to last game when I tunneled Req. Yes, the way both of them have been acting is scummy. It's the same thing I read on Req. But I was also wrong then.

You might be right, but again explain why if 6ah is noob bait that his play was exceptionally better last game?
(Also how did ranked go )


No, I mean, that's the issue. Although, to be frank, I don't remember his play last game being much of anything remarkable. But I do think he should know better, at least.

But I'm honestly starting to think LT is town (as much as I hate the arrogance). He is playing fairly similarly to the way you did last game - talk a lot, be aggressive, look at a lot of stuff. But the worst thing right now is the bullshit associations he's throwing everywhere.

On July 04 2015 04:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:16 Cixah wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:05 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 03:58 Cixah wrote:
Reasons why you shouldn't lynch me.

1) In 100% games of mafia I have rolled town, and in 100% of games I have played with Asmo he has been Mafia.
2) Asmo's play is very similar to his previous game mafia play. Lots of poking and deflecting rather than saying anything that hasn't been echo'd or otherwise overly town.
3) While a non tryhard game, there are people who have contributed nothing to the game at all other than dank memes and were still looking to not lynch them? How is that even cool yo.

In response to each.

1) Asmo wasn't scum in the last OT mafia, bro.
2) See above.
3) I do agree, but the lurkers are either 1) mordek and on vaca apparently, 2) Holyflare and Bill Murray, who are experienced at mafia (I can only assume with BM since I've never played with him), and are not viable D1 lynches (because you can generally assume if they live long enough, they're scum).

You're not a guaranteed kill, because Dandel wants to lynch VE (which...I'm iffy for flip info reasons but I can totally get behind), and I'm sure some people are thinking of lynching me D1 as usual, but eh. Try to not tunnel on Asmo.

What are your reads outside of Asmo?


Stupid pen icon. Confusing it for OWB.

Outside of Asmo, My town circle consists of Soniv, Dandel, and Coma right now. Scum reads go for Wave, Asmo, and BM right now. Less so on BM, but I don't recall hearing from him in awhile.

Explanation for the bolded why


To be honest, the increasing lack of pushback on a 6ah lynch up until dandel posted his asmo case, with everyone just ambling towards it, is very fishy.

This is never good evidence.
I've made this exact post as scum before.

It indicates one of two things.

1) easy lynch on town that scum is content on
2) + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Given how early the case on 6ah started to form, and, let's be honest, the fact that the game was suppose to be "not-tryhard", I doubt scum-team would bus 6ah this early.

Also, I do buy dandel's reasoning on asmo, though keeping in mind that asmo is also nub. Then again, he is Austrian, so this may lead to World War Two all over again if we elect him mayor. Still, my strongest town read.

WIth 4(?) hours to go it indicates absolutely nothing.
You also forget there are a shit ton of people not even here.

There are 3 people. HF, BM, and mordek, who lurked and has offered no opinion on 6ah.

As for everyone else, there has been some degree of "lynch 6ah now" from you/asmo/VE, to I'd be fine with lynching him/he's leaning scum (everyone else). Only 1 person "soft" defended them (Coma).

No counter-current whatsoever outside of coma who was lol.


I agree with you. Although Wave is partially right, with 4 hours left, janky things can happen with counter pressure. But the lack of resistance thus far is giving me pause as well.

On July 04 2015 04:03 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote dandel ion


Did you no longer wish to be mayor? Cuz yesterday, I said tomorrow.

It scares me that you and I are on the same page.
I often get bad feels when a lynch goes like this as well, but I don't see a reason not to lynch 6ah here other than 'welp, there's no resistance.'

OH WAIT a minute.
We don't even truly decide the lynch, so the fact that people are 'content' with things one way or another means even less in this part of the game because ultimately it's up to the whims of whoever is being voted in. That ONE person, not an entire town, can change his mind in a heartbeat and change the whole course of the day so there's no reason scum should feel unsafe even if they're being pointed out today.



I suppose that's true. I keep forgetting mayor is choosing. Now I don't want to vote either you or dandel in for mayor though, I hate yolo plays.

On July 04 2015 05:21 Lord Tolkien wrote:
GB is leaning town.

Fk no.


GB started to contribute, enough that I was starting to consider him town, you gave him your seal of approval, and then he disappeared. You seem so set on getting some good info with this lynch, but I'm not really sure what you're after. If you're hoping to validate one of your association theories, it feels like you're still aiming for a long shot.
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July 03 2015 20:40 GMT
#517
also, wave, we're allowed to be on the same page somtimes

we don't always have to fight bb
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#518
On July 04 2015 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 05:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 05:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
man do i actually have to explain it real logic like
ugh

I would real talk probably like 75% lynch asmo for
1)
On July 02 2015 21:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Just so I'M not accused of doing nothing, [...]

2) His frankly puzzling stance on plotspot mayor - pushing a survivor/traitor based on his claim while caveating always a "oh but we should really try to find a townie!"
3) does not try to find a townie
4) pushing Cixah* like he did

Other options to contemplate are imo VE for getting baited* and then going full emo and pissing off
And Coma for not having opinions and instead doing summaries and captain obvious posting. real men admit when they don't have opinions and post memes. just look at hf. he is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
That's just from what I'm thinking, realistically I would never actually lynch coma today, if I was that desperate I'd just lynch the claimed traitor easy pickings ggyo real #dank

*I'm thinking cixah is noob town scumbait atm
as such not inclined to d1 lynch him personally
but if somebody else gets elected and killa him i would not shed tear 0/10


I'm beginning to think they both might be noob bait, tbh. I'm getting similar feelings to last game when I tunneled Req. Yes, the way both of them have been acting is scummy. It's the same thing I read on Req. But I was also wrong then.

You might be right, but again explain why if 6ah is noob bait that his play was exceptionally better last game?
(Also how did ranked go )


No, I mean, that's the issue. Although, to be frank, I don't remember his play last game being much of anything remarkable. But I do think he should know better, at least.

But I'm honestly starting to think LT is town (as much as I hate the arrogance). He is playing fairly similarly to the way you did last game - talk a lot, be aggressive, look at a lot of stuff. But the worst thing right now is the bullshit associations he's throwing everywhere.

On July 04 2015 04:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:16 Cixah wrote:
[quote]

Stupid pen icon. Confusing it for OWB.

Outside of Asmo, My town circle consists of Soniv, Dandel, and Coma right now. Scum reads go for Wave, Asmo, and BM right now. Less so on BM, but I don't recall hearing from him in awhile.

Explanation for the bolded why


To be honest, the increasing lack of pushback on a 6ah lynch up until dandel posted his asmo case, with everyone just ambling towards it, is very fishy.

This is never good evidence.
I've made this exact post as scum before.

It indicates one of two things.

1) easy lynch on town that scum is content on
2) + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Given how early the case on 6ah started to form, and, let's be honest, the fact that the game was suppose to be "not-tryhard", I doubt scum-team would bus 6ah this early.

Also, I do buy dandel's reasoning on asmo, though keeping in mind that asmo is also nub. Then again, he is Austrian, so this may lead to World War Two all over again if we elect him mayor. Still, my strongest town read.

WIth 4(?) hours to go it indicates absolutely nothing.
You also forget there are a shit ton of people not even here.

There are 3 people. HF, BM, and mordek, who lurked and has offered no opinion on 6ah.

As for everyone else, there has been some degree of "lynch 6ah now" from you/asmo/VE, to I'd be fine with lynching him/he's leaning scum (everyone else). Only 1 person "soft" defended them (Coma).

No counter-current whatsoever outside of coma who was lol.


I agree with you. Although Wave is partially right, with 4 hours left, janky things can happen with counter pressure. But the lack of resistance thus far is giving me pause as well.

On July 04 2015 04:03 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote dandel ion


Did you no longer wish to be mayor? Cuz yesterday, I said tomorrow.

It scares me that you and I are on the same page.
I often get bad feels when a lynch goes like this as well, but I don't see a reason not to lynch 6ah here other than 'welp, there's no resistance.'

OH WAIT a minute.
We don't even truly decide the lynch, so the fact that people are 'content' with things one way or another means even less in this part of the game because ultimately it's up to the whims of whoever is being voted in. That ONE person, not an entire town, can change his mind in a heartbeat and change the whole course of the day so there's no reason scum should feel unsafe even if they're being pointed out today.



I suppose that's true. I keep forgetting mayor is choosing. Now I don't want to vote either you or dandel in for mayor though, I hate yolo plays.

On July 04 2015 05:21 Lord Tolkien wrote:
GB is leaning town.

Fk no.


GB started to contribute, enough that I was starting to consider him town, you gave him your seal of approval, and then he disappeared. You seem so set on getting some good info with this lynch, but I'm not really sure what you're after. If you're hoping to validate one of your association theories, it feels like you're still aiming for a long shot.

I will vote you if you lynch 6ah then.


nvm, I guess we're not on same page lol
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Profile Blog Joined January 2010
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July 03 2015 20:55 GMT
#524
On July 04 2015 05:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 05:40 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 05:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 05:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
man do i actually have to explain it real logic like
ugh

I would real talk probably like 75% lynch asmo for
1)
On July 02 2015 21:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Just so I'M not accused of doing nothing, [...]

2) His frankly puzzling stance on plotspot mayor - pushing a survivor/traitor based on his claim while caveating always a "oh but we should really try to find a townie!"
3) does not try to find a townie
4) pushing Cixah* like he did

Other options to contemplate are imo VE for getting baited* and then going full emo and pissing off
And Coma for not having opinions and instead doing summaries and captain obvious posting. real men admit when they don't have opinions and post memes. just look at hf. he is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
That's just from what I'm thinking, realistically I would never actually lynch coma today, if I was that desperate I'd just lynch the claimed traitor easy pickings ggyo real #dank

*I'm thinking cixah is noob town scumbait atm
as such not inclined to d1 lynch him personally
but if somebody else gets elected and killa him i would not shed tear 0/10


I'm beginning to think they both might be noob bait, tbh. I'm getting similar feelings to last game when I tunneled Req. Yes, the way both of them have been acting is scummy. It's the same thing I read on Req. But I was also wrong then.

You might be right, but again explain why if 6ah is noob bait that his play was exceptionally better last game?
(Also how did ranked go )


No, I mean, that's the issue. Although, to be frank, I don't remember his play last game being much of anything remarkable. But I do think he should know better, at least.

But I'm honestly starting to think LT is town (as much as I hate the arrogance). He is playing fairly similarly to the way you did last game - talk a lot, be aggressive, look at a lot of stuff. But the worst thing right now is the bullshit associations he's throwing everywhere.

On July 04 2015 04:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
[quote]
This is never good evidence.
I've made this exact post as scum before.

It indicates one of two things.

1) easy lynch on town that scum is content on
2) + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Given how early the case on 6ah started to form, and, let's be honest, the fact that the game was suppose to be "not-tryhard", I doubt scum-team would bus 6ah this early.

Also, I do buy dandel's reasoning on asmo, though keeping in mind that asmo is also nub. Then again, he is Austrian, so this may lead to World War Two all over again if we elect him mayor. Still, my strongest town read.

WIth 4(?) hours to go it indicates absolutely nothing.
You also forget there are a shit ton of people not even here.

There are 3 people. HF, BM, and mordek, who lurked and has offered no opinion on 6ah.

As for everyone else, there has been some degree of "lynch 6ah now" from you/asmo/VE, to I'd be fine with lynching him/he's leaning scum (everyone else). Only 1 person "soft" defended them (Coma).

No counter-current whatsoever outside of coma who was lol.


I agree with you. Although Wave is partially right, with 4 hours left, janky things can happen with counter pressure. But the lack of resistance thus far is giving me pause as well.

On July 04 2015 04:03 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote dandel ion


Did you no longer wish to be mayor? Cuz yesterday, I said tomorrow.

It scares me that you and I are on the same page.
I often get bad feels when a lynch goes like this as well, but I don't see a reason not to lynch 6ah here other than 'welp, there's no resistance.'

OH WAIT a minute.
We don't even truly decide the lynch, so the fact that people are 'content' with things one way or another means even less in this part of the game because ultimately it's up to the whims of whoever is being voted in. That ONE person, not an entire town, can change his mind in a heartbeat and change the whole course of the day so there's no reason scum should feel unsafe even if they're being pointed out today.



I suppose that's true. I keep forgetting mayor is choosing. Now I don't want to vote either you or dandel in for mayor though, I hate yolo plays.

On July 04 2015 05:21 Lord Tolkien wrote:
GB is leaning town.

Fk no.


GB started to contribute, enough that I was starting to consider him town, you gave him your seal of approval, and then he disappeared. You seem so set on getting some good info with this lynch, but I'm not really sure what you're after. If you're hoping to validate one of your association theories, it feels like you're still aiming for a long shot.

I will vote you if you lynch 6ah then.


nvm, I guess we're not on same page lol

Wat
Well then who do you want to lynch? I thought it was 6ah up until now


I don't know man. Both 6ah and Asmo feels like noob bait.

I feel like scum team has largely been not present this game. Like, some pressure on Asmo, then it gets thrown on 6ah, some minor resistance, but nothing huge. I suppose the 6ah "swing" could've been early scum influence, but I'd be surprised if they bothered that early on.

From what I see, main candidates are Dandel, plots, and HF. Dandel and plots seem to think VE is scum, but I don't think VE deserves to die right now. HF the mememaster doesn't want to be mayor anymore and is on board with Dandel yolos.

Of the suspects, 6ah is, I suppose, the scummiest, but there are likely scummers sleeping in AFK land. And I don't think shooting into AFK land is a good strategy.
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July 03 2015 20:55 GMT
#525
On July 04 2015 05:49 ComaDose wrote:
[image loading]


holy shit I'm saving this
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July 03 2015 21:11 GMT
#537
##unvote
##vote Dandelion


Lol LT, ok.

You're right, I don't know what I want today. And let's be honest, you're not super confident in today either. Dandel, if you get rid of me, so be it. It would be unfortunate, but I trust that there is a better option than a yolo.
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July 03 2015 21:13 GMT
#539
On July 04 2015 06:12 Dandel Ion wrote:
what the fuck is this roll-over-and-die-day or what

at least get salty


sry bro, all my salt is consumed by SG
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July 03 2015 21:21 GMT
#547
On July 04 2015 06:14 Lord Tolkien wrote:
reading through his filter, he's been on cruise control this entire game. Being too nice and all, and his opinions are bland. Oh and trying to pick a fight with a bear, despite the obvious townie things he's doing.


I already explained how I feel about GB. He did some townie seeming stuffs, and then disappeared once he had your approval.


Like being the first one to go against the plotspot for mayor train which I was leading.


You're right. I was, and still am skeptical of plotspot. I've also explained that I'm not opposed to him getting mayor, but I don't support his desires to kill VE.

On July 04 2015 06:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 06:11 jcarlsoniv wrote:
##unvote
##vote Dandelion


Lol LT, ok.

You're right, I don't know what I want today. And let's be honest, you're not super confident in today either. Dandel, if you get rid of me, so be it. It would be unfortunate, but I trust that there is a better option than a yolo.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


now now, I put my pants on one leg at a time, just like you

On July 04 2015 06:17 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 06:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
On July 04 2015 06:14 Lord Tolkien wrote:
reading through his filter, he's been on cruise control this entire game. Being too nice and all, and his opinions are bland. Oh and trying to pick a fight with a bear, despite the obvious townie things he's doing. Like being the first one to go against the plotspot for mayor train which I was leading.

Also his main objection to me is that I say that I'm confirmed town for shitz and gigglez.


If we're going yolo, I'm not opposed to Sonib. I'd rather see other people go down, but eh.

? that's basically his only good point lol

i may be relying on meta


and what, praytell, is my meta, LT?
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July 03 2015 21:21 GMT
#549
On July 04 2015 06:18 Dandel Ion wrote:
also yeah i wasnt really planning on yoloing soniv (if i was i wouldnt have said anything about it) i was just pissed off by his post

but instead of giving me a reaction he decides to have his balls cut off
i cant work with that shit


it's called the ragdoll method
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July 03 2015 23:35 GMT
#585
Ok, so, dandel, are you going to collaborate on a yolo? Are you going to get consensus on a lynch? Gonna use a dartboard?

[image loading]
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July 04 2015 00:10 GMT
#594
hey HF

[image loading]

On July 04 2015 08:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
who knows!
it'll be a surprise
or maybe not
the real surprise is if there will be a surprise


T_T

I'm not really a fan of yolo plays

LT, if elected mayor, who would you lynch at this point? I'm losing confidence in dandelion yoloswag
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July 04 2015 00:16 GMT
#596
[image loading]
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