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I agree with GB that LS is town. On June 17 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote: Hi guys I finally rolled town and I hope bugs had rolled town too since he played really good in the last game I played with him when I was scum vs his town :o This post gives me good townie feelings | ||
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On June 17 2015 08:00 KelsierSC wrote: it's his bullshit defence of you, his weird fucking "oh be careful i've got my eye on you" crap and then his stupid fucking vote. since then he read the thread backwards which is usually mafia and he asked some stupid question about how good nydus is on a scale...which is totally pointless and serves no purpose. He is mafia and you should all vote him. Like read the post again from the point of view of someone who thinks they are top tier and a lot of other people are shitters. It doesn't seem as scummy. | ||
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Him asking how bad nydus is, also the thing he directed toward mig who i assumed he has played with before and thinks is good. Also felt fine jumping to this conclusion because of last game. | ||
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On June 17 2015 08:07 wherebugsgo wrote: have you played with any of these players much? what do you think of LS's posts this game so far? Some but I wouldn't say I can judge who is good and who is bad nor would I really want to. I assume thats why you are asking me this question. I really liked his opening. I find it hard thinking that LS could make that first post as scum idk it just feels really genuine. Also the rest of his posts don't really seem forced which I think is one of the biggest giveaways for scum LS and is something that would be hard to change. On June 17 2015 08:08 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm not going to speak for him, but given that he played with me in the previous game while you were busy being scum, and he actually uses his head (unlike you) you should consider thinking a bit more like him and a little less like you Also relax with this. GB coached me a bunch when I first started, I honestly don't understand why you are acting like him since he was scum last game so any reasoning you thought was bad from him doesn't mean shit because he was scum. | ||
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On June 17 2015 08:08 GlowingBear wrote: Breshke, let's lynch Onegu! But you arn't even voting him. Is this a trap? | ||
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On June 17 2015 08:26 wherebugsgo wrote: nah I'm not sure GB gleaned anything useful about anyone's play from the last game given that he was scum if he is town this game he should probably consider that at the very least, given that it is his only exposure to my play SO you think GB should try meta read you off of one game? | ||
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On June 17 2015 08:33 wherebugsgo wrote: I would expect him to at least consider my last game, yes. Your question comes off as really leading though, there's not some sort of binary extreme between being incapable of reading someone and having to autoread them after one game. Not all players fall into that, although some tend to be very easily distinguishable. But I'm probably biased given that I think I am pretty easy to read as town. Yeah it was leading because I have a problem with how you consider yourself. I know you say you are a much better scum player than town player right? Yet you also think you are an easy townread which doesn't make sense if your scum play is better than your town play. Does it not mean people should be wary of you even if they are reading you town. | ||
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On June 17 2015 08:48 wherebugsgo wrote: I think I'm a better scum player than town but I would rate my town play like 2 on a scale of 1 to 10 and my scum play as a 5 I think it's fairly obvious when I am town because I personally put in far more effort when I am town. For example in the last game I must've read at least half a dozen of LS's games over the space of day 1 just to make sense of his posts. It's actually a point of frustration for me when the only serious lynches I've had to deal with were all as town because normally I take almost no suspicion at all when I am scum. I think I've been lynched twice as scum and both times I felt it was not really my fault and more a fault of my lazy teammates. Also people have said what you have said before and I welcome people to scrutinize my reads and my play. It'll help me get better at least, but I find it odd that most people call me town when I am scum and scum when I am town. hmm. I assumed your self rating of your scum play would be higher since in witch you said you were 90% sure you were better than me as scum. I guess this fits in with your other opinion that 99% of people on this forum are bad at playing scum. But moving on. If you think it is obvious that you are town because of the effort you put in how do you think GB would read you town when you havn't shown to be putting in this extra effort yet this game. Not that you havn't been putting in effort but I wouldn't say it compares yet to last game. This has a lot to do with being two hours in but still I don't follow how you think GB should have that read on you. This also isn't really going anywhere because I don't think it makes you scum I just think it shows that you want to call GB bad. | ||
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On June 17 2015 09:45 ritoky wrote: when you're scum you're like oprah with your reads. ![[image loading]](http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/3186960/you-get-a-car-o.gif) i think your hesitancy to hand me a gumball is more town indicative. deall wif it. 10/10 | ||
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On June 17 2015 10:20 rsoultin wrote: -pokes bresh- so you think that's true? i'm terrible at judging myself lol i left i cause yeah...if you can't tell if something holds water you can't tell  hffffffffff -flops on- please tell me you're town hf I think it is true that you give town reads easier as mafia than as town. I say this with hindsight though because ive never noticed it in game when you were scum. The 10/10 was more directed at him calling scum rsoul oprah. | ||
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On June 17 2015 10:34 rsoultin wrote: jat may have said something similar lol fair enough breshke-chan scummish idiocy or smarting ego, you think? (yes i trust you to know what i'm talking about ^^) I honestly don't know yet. He looked like he was going to pursue nydus early but im fairly sure that is because he though he was a smurf and he likes pushing smurfs. The rest of his play is what i expect and I didn't really see any scummy stuff from it which makes me townread him but i know thats jsut because I like town reading people so it is kinda null. I think it will become more obvious later in the day like he said with the effort he put in last game with so many people he hasn't played with im interested what he comes up with from diving old games which he seemed to like to do and seemed to have success with. That's a lot of words for a null read but meh . Also I 100% knew you two would rub each other the wrong way. | ||
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On June 17 2015 10:45 GlowingBear wrote: Oh, Bill Murray confirmed? ##Vote: Bill Murray GB pls no Was your list listed from like most scummy to least scummy? If not who do you think is most scummy? | ||
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On June 17 2015 10:54 GlowingBear wrote: It wasn't, and I have a tie between Onegu and boxerfred right now. I think Onegu is a better lynch, actually I'm really wary of Kelsier now, btw. Why for kelsier? | ||
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Rsoul used to think she had a good read on LS because she caught him scum in her first game but then basically townread him almost every game after that. She was obviously wrong eventually and realized her read was either wrong or LS changed his play. She still gets those frequent townreads on LS so when she was reading LS town this game she was hesitant about it but then because many others were also reading him town she felt less bad about it. Now explain if the above thing is scummy or not because i ceebs you and rsoul going at it because she explained it in an rsoul way and you reacted to it in a bugs way | ||
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On June 17 2015 11:17 wherebugsgo wrote: bravo, what an uplifting strategy. Let's ignore a player until literally the last possible moment, when if you are wrong you fucking lose the game. Bugs pls you said you were going to ignore half the players last game. Tell me about damdreds alignment. | ||
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On June 17 2015 11:26 GlowingBear wrote: Like, Bugs, I want first to actually form a read on you. And for that I need to know how you're approaching the game. Opinions on other players, for example, help me with that. I wouldn't lynch her day one solely for activity. So talking about her NOW is a waste of time. And talking ABOUT you is also. But talking WITH YOU is important to me. I think we have much better targets. This fight between you two actually feels very weird. Yes yes yes this. The fight isn't going to go anywhere either because I think you are both too stubborn and 20 posts later you are still going to be going on about the same thing. So let's move on and come back later if need be. | ||
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On June 17 2015 11:06 GlowingBear wrote: I think his attempt of rediscuss LS was actually an attempt to disrupt town ("let me raise suspicions on a guy I can raise suspicions so town doesn't actually make a good PoE list") Just how I felt. Of course I need other evidence, but it was enough to take him out of the town list I missed this but good point I kind of think your reason for scumming onegu is weak. I get that the way he worded the VT claim was awkward but I think thats townie if it is alignment indicative at all. I feel he would be more like careful of the post as scum. | ||
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On June 17 2015 12:58 GlowingBear wrote: By the way, trust the tone read rsoultin gives on damdred and me I've been discussing games with her for a long while and he does that every time. And she does it correctly. Like, I told her I was freezingfoot last game and she said: you're scum right? you don't feel like town gb I trust her tone reads as genuine What is rubbing me the wrong way is the shitfight she entered and the refusal to get off of it. I agree the shitfight is not helping town but I don't think it is alignment indicative. Even before they interacted i knew her and bugs would not get along no matter their alignment unless they were mafia together. That is like the only thing I got out of that shitfight the fact that they i think they can not be mafia together. But yeah I don't think you should judge them on the shitfight because it is jsut their personalities and yeah its boring as fuck but it is because they are both stubborn. They both seem likely town to me now another reason the shitfight is boring as hell. GB why are you sheeping HF? Wheres the townread come from you might have said but i missed it. | ||
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On June 17 2015 13:15 ritoky wrote: What about each of their play outside of the shitfight gave you these town reads then? Bugs is very similar to last game and is acting exactly how i expect him too as town for example almost started going after nydus because he thought he was a smurf, continued to hunt for good players to try and get their opinions. I also liked the effort he out in when i asked him to dive damdred. Rsoul i wont count the most recent thing i said because that was after i posted that. I don't actually remember the reason I think it was a gut thing or because she was being difficult. | ||
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On June 17 2015 13:47 ritoky wrote: have you ever played with bugs when he was mafia? No. I understand the failures of the read but I don't care | ||
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On June 17 2015 13:51 ritoky wrote: So you're saying you have town reads on them outside of their fighting and the reasons are: -incomplete meta read -i don't remember ?????? wat? Yeah that sums it up fairly well. | ||
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I currently have three people I would lynch. boxerfred bill Murray shockey Boxer for his one post on a joke then leaving. Makes me think he isn't intrested in people allighnments Bill murray for HF's thing. I can see him confirming and then not being bothered to play it out if he rolled scum again after last game. and shockey because he disagrees with basically everyone on LS yet didn't seem to enquire with anyone about it. Which also makes me think he didn't really care about his read. All 3 of these are obviously very inactive which is probably a bad thing. I do however think GB and rsoultin are both really town. GB for his general play and how he has been treating bugs and how fluid his reads have been and rsoultin for how she claimed to get a read on me this game. I also still think LS is town for all earlier reasons and it doesn't change my read that he hasn't been around. Damdred is also in my town pile even though I havn't looked into him much at all but i trust rso's read and I like it even more because my other top town gb said to trust rso's read. I also like this post for ritoky On June 17 2015 13:52 ritoky wrote: content wise this is such trash mafia crap. but tone wise your defiance gives me a town chub. fuck you for sending mixed signals. Because I think it would have been so easy for him to shit on me there but he didn't. | ||
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GB my scum list is like the top of your lynch list is it bad that they are all afk's | ||
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I don't have a problem with you not having that much time to play but when you have a read that is the oppisite to the thread I find it not townie that when you are around you don't try to discuss this read and either work out if you are wrong or try and convince people they are wrong. On June 17 2015 23:31 ShoCkeyy wrote: Nah, people are talking about having lurkers post more and LS even said he wish I would post more. Either way, we still are on day 1, there still a lot of time to build a case and gather better reads. I'm not to worried about coming off as scum atm, cause when I lay the hammer, people will see how serious I am about winning for town. When i first read this it felt really genuine but on re read "lay the hammer" is really awkward wording and feels forced. I don't agree with damdreds thing on shockey ebcause when shockey said "do you think this has any value" or whateve i don't think he was calling damdred scum more like is this useful to talk about. Would also still lynch BF because of the HF stuff. Although im fairly sure it is based off a misunderstanding but that doesn't really make me think it is not scummy because it shows that BF most likely went into it wanting to scum HF. I could be wrong tell me if I am but yeah so BF says that HF knows his own meta so can't use it to defend himself or whatever but this was never actually what happend. What actually happened was that rsoul said "this is your meta you arn't doing this" and then HF said "no this is actually my meta i am doing this". While still kind of using his meta in defense he wasn't the first to bring it up so he isn't saying he is town because he is following his meta he is saying rsouls accusation is bullshit. @BF can you tell me if what i wrote above changes your views on anything i get i didn't express it very well | ||
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On June 18 2015 10:03 Fidei86 wrote: Breshke - So his first substantive post is here, and it makes absolutely no sense to me. What LS wrote is about as NAI as I've seen in mafia. Saying you've rolled town is what everyone would say, if asked. Saying it unprompted doesn't mean anything - some people who prefer town might want to revel in it, whereas scum might use it as a tool to start subconsciously planting the idea that they're town. Basically the post gives me no "townie feelings" whatsoever, and I'm not sure why Breshke would say it did. He then gives a soft-town meta read on LS, (which we should think about for later, because it could be a deflect). I really hate this. He starts off by saying something pretty nasty about WBG (that he is self-important), and he says it in a snide offhand way. Moreover, the whole post just seems to amble around in search of a point, without ever finding one, and concluding that he does not have a read. His final set of posts are all just asking questions of people. I don't think this is necessarily bad play (and I guess I'm not one to talk about bad play ^^), but it feels kind of lazy - particularly because people in the thread haven't been very good at actually answering questions. It's sort of a good way to look like you're town, without actually saying anything, IN PARTICULAR because he never then follows up on any of his questions with follow-ups. It looks like pure filter-filler to me. I do agree with him that the rso/WBG fight was tedious as fuck. All his three "would lynch" candidates were mostly AFK, so they were pretty non-controversial. That's not really AI though, because I kinda agree that town is better off lynching lurkers who don't contribute, rather than someone who some people read as scum but who is posting consistently. His final two posts show a little more leg, but feel a bit light. Ritoky was right, I think, his reasons for his rsoult/WBG read was really lacking. However, I also agree with Ritoky that his response was honest, if not very impressive. If he was mafia, I would have expected him to protest a little more. Then again, if he felt he was caught in a trap, he might have recognised the best thing to do was move on. Finally, I should say that I HATE posts that are just "I don't like this". Scott did it all last game and he was town, but TT also did it and he was mafia. So it's not AI, but at the same time it's just annoying and it clutters up the thread. Say why you don't like something, or don't say anything at all. After all that, I give him a null read. Maybe on the slight scum side, only because he has been so reactive. The first thing about LS was early so yeah generally it is pretty baseless. I still think it shows some townie mindset because the way he refers to bugs came off as really upfront to me and was far to obvious if he was trying to actually buddy bugs. It has nothing to do with him saying I am town. The bugs thing is a misunderstanding. Feel free to get bugs to confirm this but I didn't intend it to be snide nor do i think he took it that way. In our last game bugs said he was 90% sure he was better than me as scum (which he deffs is) which made me think he rated himself highly as a scum player. So when he said he is a 5/10 scum player it didn't make sense to me. Also the point of that post was to stop BUGS from going at it with GB which I did not think would be useful for the thread because it would have been about Bugs thinking GB was bad not scum. Don't have much tto say about anything else you said but the i don't like this stuff is bad yeah if ive been doing it ill try stop and just come out with the reason right away | ||
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Yet LS just claiming then not doing anything but defending himself with his blue claim feels really scummy. Can you do stuff man, if you are town I know you have it in you. | ||
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On June 18 2015 10:42 Holyflare wrote: i've made that quite clear to him about 5 times and he ignored it I thought I would try one more time. Also im doing this ##Vote Boxerfred | ||
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On June 18 2015 11:26 LightningStrike wrote: People been pressuring non stop what else was I suppose to do -_- Does repeating "im blue" do anything? They know you claimed. Talk about other stuff | ||
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I want you to convince me why I should lynch shockey | ||
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On June 18 2015 13:25 LightningStrike wrote: TLDR Case on Shockeyy: 1. His list post was rather shitty in terms of reasons 2. He been making excuses for his poor play 3. Some of posts seemed forced I will to vote Boxerfred if Shockeyy doesn't appear to be the lynch today but I think Shockeyy is worse than Boxer atm. Could you quote the posts which you think seem forced. | ||
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On June 18 2015 13:37 GlowingBear wrote: Breshke, what is your read on Kelsier? Lean town I liked his list post a while back, reads felt good. Seems fairly tunneled on LS but when you read over it it feels fairly townie because LS hasn't really given him a reason to get out of that tunnel other than claiming blue but i understand why this would not change ksc's opinion. You could also look at it that ksc is jsut trying to push ane asy misslynch but when i read his posts i feel real frustration from him when LS doesn't really give him any answers. So i think it is much more likely to be a townie thing. How about yourself? Other than the length of his filter. | ||
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On June 18 2015 13:42 LightningStrike wrote: These: Context of that post: He haven't posted for a little over 1 hour and seemed kinda forced to give a list of reads plus I felt like his reads weren't as insightful as his last game like when he was around he was pushing shit more than did this game. Outside the questions in that post it seemed much more fluff than anything. So your three reasons for scumming him were 1 bad list post 2. makes excuses 3. posts seemed forced But 3 is actually just 1 and 2 because the posts you said seemed forced are the list post and him making an excuse. Frankly i don't think shockey saying shit about not posting much is alignment indicative for him since he did it in witch (might have been post game) but he did do it so it is something he would complain about as either alignment. I don't know what to say to you LS it doesn't feel like you really think he is scum. | ||
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On June 18 2015 13:50 GlowingBear wrote: Never really bothered to read him. Feels townie. What do you think of that thing I said before about KSC trying to raise suspicions to disrupt town? I felt it was applicable at the time but now that he has followed through and i think LS looks considerably less townie like the only thing he has going for him for me is Bugs thing about his blue claim. So I don't really think that read applies anymore. | ||
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On June 12 2015 04:59 ShoCkeyy wrote: Well, if it's like that, I'll just bounce. I have a lot of business I should be dealing with, but I thought this would entertain me in some way outside of business. I can't really provide the effort and time that most of you put into this. Sorry if my reads are "worthless", but they're my honest opinions on people after reading through the thread. Remember, I'm playing from a town point of view, any of you can be mafia to me still. I rather have many coinflips than many town players and end up getting fucked. On June 13 2015 10:15 ShoCkeyy wrote: See like right now is perfect for me to play, no gf at home, all my business is taken care of and I actually have time to post. Activity is what really kills me and my posting ;\ Both of these are from witch LS and i see both of them as him talking about not being able to post much. The second one is from post game i think | ||
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On June 18 2015 13:54 rsoultin wrote: lol rereading ksc's filter i actually have him as one of my strongest townreads i just don't see that level of play likely to be replicated by scum at all like i told mig, the strangest reaction to ls' blue claim would be a sudden read change -shrugs- Are you agreeing with me here? Because yeah the bolded is what i was trying to express but i did it in a more confusing way. Wait that means i was probably agreeing with you then. Cool | ||
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Ive shown you he talked about not being able to post a lot in a game where he was town. So why do his excuses this game make him scum? | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:01 ritoky wrote: real life shit and LS' posting. i am about to say some fucking anti-town shit and i don't give a fuck. unless LS gets to a place where i can town read him for the remainder of the game today or there is slam dunk mafia i am probably voting on him. and i actually somewhat believe his blue claim is real. the problem is the guy keeps spewing anti-town sentiment every time he posts, seriously....he is going to be left alive all fucking game on this question mark of a claim and every phase we are gonna do the "whooaaaa should i lynch him today? dance" and it will probably cost town the fucking game. oh an if you're gonna fucking claim masons with damdred instead of your named VT shit, just do it. you're not subtle in the slightest. since you already claimed blue, if you don't do it now never gonna believe that shit. the state of this game angers me because i think the two people playing the most anti-town are likely town and we are in terrible trouble. | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:13 LightningStrike wrote: I wasn't trying to discredit you GB I was just finding it odd that's all  ##Unvote ##Vote Lightningstrike | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:18 GlowingBear wrote: Breshke, why exactly you are reading shockey for? I assume this is meant to say town reading. I'm not. But he is LS's biggest scumread and instead of convincing me he is scum LS decides respond to random stuff that doesn't matter. | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:21 GlowingBear wrote: And why do you need LS to convince YOU that SHOCKEY is scum? He doesn't. But he was in the thread not doing anythign other than saying "im blue" so im trying to give him something we can talk about so I can advance my read on him other than his blue claim. | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:22 LightningStrike wrote: I been trying to but you convince you but you just wont listen -_-.......... Why do I have to face brick walls bigger than GoT. I feel like rage quitting now and might just make a damn document of my reads tomorrow. I am not trying to treat you like an ass, im not actually voting you it never made it to the vote thread. The problem is i feel like you fabricated your read on shockey. I don't think you think his posts seemed forced I think you jsut said that because it is something that is attributed to him ebign scum. I do also realize that it is possible for a town to do this when they are under suspicion liekt his because you wanted your read on shockey to seem fuller. Anyway who are your top 3 towns LS? | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:40 GlowingBear wrote: TBH i prefer to lynch Lohengrann over shockey Why is boxer so far down. | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:44 rsoultin wrote: o.0 that is pretty weird rit good catch meh :/ ppl making me doubt my reads on them = sadface What is weird about it rsoul | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:49 rsoultin wrote: shitfight nai townreading us? those two don't compute, and i don't expect you to contradict yourself in the same post Ohh i thought you meant the spaces. | ||
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On June 18 2015 15:00 rsoultin wrote: eh it's like 1am my brain's not working bresh explain that post don't just ooohhhhhh at me this filter dive isn't getting done tonight so i'm just gonna park where i'm at i agree with hf on bf...with the addition that him scumreading hf for hf's read on me without having a read on me and saying he'll read me later...makes no earthly sense. how can he know it's "bad" if he hasn't even checked it? the meta thing is whatever (don't care about that) but the logic isn't there and also there's the coming back to the thread much later to just talk about the same read i don't know why hf of everyone else. not gonna worry about that right now lohen i could lynch tomorrow easily, is the best way to put it i'd currently lynch bf lohen va in that order i'm not ready to hard townread hf and damdy's fallen off for me a bit, too...both of which worry me. not today's lynches though by a longshot bresh...i kinda feel like i can read him but i need to filter dive him to stop the doubts you started rit xP so, there's that eeeeehhhhhh i think that's it liking gb a little better again >> now that he's stopped hyperfocusing on everyone else's reads on him. kinda like how he pushed in like screw you guys (i'm weird; so sue me) I already explained it. Well explained the lack of explanation. I had very small if not shitty reasoning for townreading you both there. I could even say that it was a bid to make the fighting between you look dumb (because it was) but i don't know how well i thought that through. I can't explain saying i townread you and bugs there more than I have already and if that makes you doubt im town thats a shame but there isn't anything more to add about it. | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:53 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not really worried about his "meta read" on bugs. I can see him doing that as town too. What worries me, for example, as that he quickly defended me in the beginning of the game. I felt it was townie but now, after reevaluating it, I was scum last game and he was calling me town there. I think if he got an impression on how bugs plays the game based on the latest game they played together, he would be wary of me today. But he isn't. Also there are these little not-very-alignment-indicative things in his filter but I you add them up, they gain scum-body. I love neologism. I didn't really defend you from bugs calling you scum if ir ecall it was more me defending you from him calling you bad. I also was one of the only ones to back Bugs in his initial scumread of you last game and yes i did end up townreading you but I don't really see how that is relevant. Do you think your play this game has been similar to witch? Someone is probably going to ask for it so do you want to show what the little not every alignment inductive things are. | ||
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On June 18 2015 15:10 rsoultin wrote: now i remember that post lol >< simple question then. were your reads related to the shitfight at all? all i need to know I assume you mean the townreads on you and bugs. If so then no | ||
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On June 18 2015 15:12 Breshke wrote: I didn't really defend you from bugs calling you scum if ir ecall it was more me defending you from him calling you bad. I also was one of the only ones to back Bugs in his initial scumread of you last game and yes i did end up townreading you but I don't really see how that is relevant. Do you think your play this game has been similar to witch? Someone is probably going to ask for it so do you want to show what the little not every alignment inductive things are. I'm guessing you missed this GB and its fairly dissapointing because right now you scum read me for exactly 0 reasons which are obvious to the thread. Like little NAI things that add up yet you failed to point anything out when im not being scumread by anyone else. Yet you are now asleep and by the time you wake up i will most likely be asleep so there is no chance of you conversing with me until like EoD if I am awake for it. Bleh | ||
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On June 18 2015 17:17 Fidei86 wrote: @Breshke did you see my post on you? I'd be keen to get your thoughts on what I said.. On June 18 2015 10:49 Breshke wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 18 2015 10:03 Fidei86 wrote: Breshke - So his first substantive post is here, and it makes absolutely no sense to me. What LS wrote is about as NAI as I've seen in mafia. Saying you've rolled town is what everyone would say, if asked. Saying it unprompted doesn't mean anything - some people who prefer town might want to revel in it, whereas scum might use it as a tool to start subconsciously planting the idea that they're town. Basically the post gives me no "townie feelings" whatsoever, and I'm not sure why Breshke would say it did. He then gives a soft-town meta read on LS, (which we should think about for later, because it could be a deflect). I really hate this. He starts off by saying something pretty nasty about WBG (that he is self-important), and he says it in a snide offhand way. Moreover, the whole post just seems to amble around in search of a point, without ever finding one, and concluding that he does not have a read. His final set of posts are all just asking questions of people. I don't think this is necessarily bad play (and I guess I'm not one to talk about bad play ^^), but it feels kind of lazy - particularly because people in the thread haven't been very good at actually answering questions. It's sort of a good way to look like you're town, without actually saying anything, IN PARTICULAR because he never then follows up on any of his questions with follow-ups. It looks like pure filter-filler to me. I do agree with him that the rso/WBG fight was tedious as fuck. All his three "would lynch" candidates were mostly AFK, so they were pretty non-controversial. That's not really AI though, because I kinda agree that town is better off lynching lurkers who don't contribute, rather than someone who some people read as scum but who is posting consistently. His final two posts show a little more leg, but feel a bit light. Ritoky was right, I think, his reasons for his rsoult/WBG read was really lacking. However, I also agree with Ritoky that his response was honest, if not very impressive. If he was mafia, I would have expected him to protest a little more. Then again, if he felt he was caught in a trap, he might have recognised the best thing to do was move on. Finally, I should say that I HATE posts that are just "I don't like this". Scott did it all last game and he was town, but TT also did it and he was mafia. So it's not AI, but at the same time it's just annoying and it clutters up the thread. Say why you don't like something, or don't say anything at all. After all that, I give him a null read. Maybe on the slight scum side, only because he has been so reactive. The first thing about LS was early so yeah generally it is pretty baseless. I still think it shows some townie mindset because the way he refers to bugs came off as really upfront to me and was far to obvious if he was trying to actually buddy bugs. It has nothing to do with him saying I am town. The bugs thing is a misunderstanding. Feel free to get bugs to confirm this but I didn't intend it to be snide nor do i think he took it that way. In our last game bugs said he was 90% sure he was better than me as scum (which he deffs is) which made me think he rated himself highly as a scum player. So when he said he is a 5/10 scum player it didn't make sense to me. Also the point of that post was to stop BUGS from going at it with GB which I did not think would be useful for the thread because it would have been about Bugs thinking GB was bad not scum. Don't have much tto say about anything else you said but the i don't like this stuff is bad yeah if ive been doing it ill try stop and just come out with the reason right away You might have missed it cos i put your quote in spoilers to try make the post shorter | ||
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On June 18 2015 17:17 ritoky wrote: mig is probably more actively scummy to me because he provided content and then went back on his own content over basically nothing. BF, while i see him as scummy i can kinda see a little bit of his perspective from bad town. skimming thread until strange interaction -> read more on thing you find strange -> give reads on thing you find strange -> defend your bad reads because you think highly of them. that is a progression that bad town can go through, but it is still shitty. that said the above probably still isn't enuf to get me to not vote on LS lol mmm I think GB said the same thing about BF how saw it could have come from a mafia or town perspective but with your explanation I kind of understand that some more now. Lynching LS is going to be shit | ||
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On June 18 2015 17:50 ritoky wrote: when he tells you "cuz named VT has no powers and is worthless, so why not claim it"; i will probably be asleep so make sure you ask him "then why didn't you claim it the moment the game started?" for me. i am relying on you for this. don't dishonour me or i will lynch you. but if he isn't here in like 4 hours ill probs be asleep as well. This burden is too heavy | ||
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On June 18 2015 17:55 ritoky wrote: 1 of us has to lose sleep for this great cause. i vote you. I guess you have to get all the sleep you can before your baby is born. How about we agree you call it Breshke and ill agree to stay up. + Show Spoiler + Shitposting is fun | ||
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Lohen you say the blueclaim comes from town ls more likely than mafia ls. Why does town LS claim blue there | ||
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Anyone wanna give me cliffnotes or should i just try skim | ||
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On June 19 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote: the vote is definitely bad, yeah so is the bf one i agree with gb that there's no reason even to make up a reason when it's obviously just survival why bother justifying? I think a new player is more likely to do this tbh | ||
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I don't think BF is AS scummy anymore because of bugs post about him being combative with HF. Even with him returning just before lynch like its whatever ive done the same thing. I want to lynch GB but i don't know how much of it is me being pissed that he flipped his read for no fucking reason over shit ive already explained or stuff he is misrepresenting like me trying to get LS to talk about actual reads. | ||
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There was two reasons GB thought BF was scum in that post. 1 (some shit about kelsier) 2 (His first post)That post occured first. HF then made a case on BF which involved point 1. GB then said no thats not right point 1 doesnt make him mafia anymore. Therefore GB only had point 2 to call BF scum about since he no longer agreed with point 1. Now I have no idea if this is all true iirc it is but you are misunderstanding what he is trying to say | ||
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GB who is your top scumread as of now? Has your read on me changed at all? Also not sidetrack anything but On June 18 2015 22:46 LightningStrike wrote: Just woke up and had a question: I was tired of being pressured to the extreme from KSC so I claimed there...... Why does one person pressuring you make you claim when you know that is a bad play? One person alone can not lynch you and many others were townreading you. | ||
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On June 19 2015 08:05 LightningStrike wrote: Because honestly I really dislike pressure on me esp when it was hardcore pressure (See Metal Mini and Newbie LX where I claimed VT under pressure) and felt like KSC was hardcore pressuring me. But there is a difference between claiming VT and claiming blue. Even when the blue role is named VT. If you're town why do you care about being pressured especially when heaps of people thought you were town. | ||
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What changed your read on me? | ||
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On June 19 2015 08:12 GlowingBear wrote: Nothing, actually. I just think that Shockey's wishy washy thing and his vote on me was weird Mig not voting me was weird Bugs not inquiring Mig for not voting me is weird. You see, bugs is too comfortably tunneled But why am I not mafia anymore. All the things you said still stand and you seemed to still scumread me even after people reacted to your case. I don't see what has changed now. I don't see how having 3 other scumreads makes you drop your read on me who was your biggest scumread. | ||
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On June 19 2015 08:19 GlowingBear wrote: Content of the question is different. I will review my case on him later to see if it really holds water or if I was being bad again Wtf are you doing you just said you didn't think i was scum anymore now you are saying you need to review your case again. Did you not review the reasons you thought I was scum when you just told me you thought I was no longer scum. | ||
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On June 19 2015 08:08 LightningStrike wrote: I just don't respond to pressure well and you know this -_- So you would rather not be pressured which is a natural thing to happen in the game and instead have people flame you about claiming blue? I think the later is worse and I don't understand why your dislike of being pressured is greater than your dislike of people saying your play was bad and getting angry at you. | ||
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On June 19 2015 08:26 wherebugsgo wrote: sup dude. do you actually think LS is scum or just bad? I'm trying to figure out why you are grilling him on this pressure thing and it doesn't quite make sense to me. Also who do you think is scum right now? What do you think in particular of the later BF voters, e.g. NHM, Onegu, Mig, ShoCkeyy? I have no idea about LS. I feel like he is probably town but something about the claim really irks me because he did it because he dislikes pressure but he knows people will get pissed at him and fairly sure he would dislike that more. It is probably a case of being rewarded in the short term (stopping the ksc pressure) and not thinking about the later consequences (people getting pissed at him) if he is named VT so I'll probs drop it. Ive missed a lot of pages because EoD is early morning here so idk about nydus i rememebr thinking he was pretty townie and liked his question to all BF voters even though it gor ignored I dont care about onegu I think mig is still scummy based off of the ritoky post. (same opion as last night) Shockeyys question to GB the "why shouldnt i lynch you?" and then getting pissed he didnt answer is ridiculous and I think his switch to BF was the most weird. Would lynch. I also think GB is still scum and that he most recent flip then not flip on me makes no sense | ||
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I also want you to hardclaim that you are VT. No going back on this. | ||
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On June 19 2015 08:42 rsoultin wrote: yeah ls/gb doesn't make much sense hf blah i keep saying i'm going to get food i need to i'm out unless i have questions later...not gonna post again until i actually review the thread, eat your heart out wbg Why does LS/GB make no sense? GB flipped his read on me when I was trying to get LS to talk about shockey. This obviously could mean jack shit but I don't see reasons why ls/gb doesn't make sense. | ||
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On June 19 2015 08:44 Breshke wrote: Why does LS/GB make no sense? GB flipped his read on me when I was trying to get LS to talk about shockey. This obviously could mean jack shit but I don't see reasons why ls/gb doesn't make sense. Derr cos of the votes, nevermind | ||
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On June 19 2015 08:46 LightningStrike wrote: I am VT this game and I unclaimed because everyone questioned my claim I didn't really expect to much on and decided enough was enough. I prob just replace out because I just can't play this game as last Friday a friend of mine from High School died in a Car Accident and I only found out after I signed up. I thought that I can play but then with the shit happening this game I can't play it anymore and will commit Sudoku. Dude this is just a game no one actually cares about anyone making bad plays literally everyone has done it no matter what people say. There is no reason to replace out or not play you just needed to explain your thought process behind why you did stuff and people will most likely understand even if they play wasn't optimal. Im extremely sorry about your friend and my condolences go out to you and his family. | ||
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On June 19 2015 08:44 wherebugsgo wrote: Yeah I agree for the most part. I can potentially see one or two of Mig/Onegu/Shockeyy with GB being scum, I think they all look pretty bad. The thing though is each has some favorable points, e.g. Shockeyy actually had that post re GB's meta but then he ended up unvoting him and hammering boxerfred. Like if he legitimately thought GB was scum why the fuck would he hammer BF? If GB ends up being scum then I think Shockeyy is also very likely to flip scum for that reason cause that voting pattern makes very little sense. And then there is Onegu who wasted his vote until the last moment on one of his supposed town reads. I'm not sure how more useless one can be. idk why but it almost feels as if the way he is taunting is in a sense like pushing the boundary of how much he can get away with. I didn't get this impression from him when I played with him in Witchcraft which is rather strange. There he seemed a bit trolly and self important but nothing like he is here. My concern with Mig is kinda similar to Shockeyy in that he said he was going to vote for GB but then ended up voting BF. At the time he seemed to rationalize it fine but looking back it's pretty shady. He did ask me for opinions which I think as scum he'd probably be a bit wary of doing because I'm pretty sure he knows I can read him pretty well. So that is at least a positive, but I am looking for him to talk with me more tonight at the very least or I'd consider him scum if I end up dying tonight. I gotta reread after this LS unclaim shit though.. Yeah I didn't know that about shockey so that is extra bad. Especially considering he is now nowhere to be seen. Onegu did claim he had been townreading GB since early in the game. If that is true or not who knows since he seemed to not want to actually participate much which is a shame. Did you see the thing ritoky had on mig? What was your reaction to it? | ||
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So I was pressuring your blueclaim. Why did you unclaim? Noone had counterclaimed you so you knew it was fairly safe that there wasnt an actual named VT. You don't like pressure so why did you think unclaiming blue would take away pressure from you? | ||
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On June 19 2015 08:58 Holyflare wrote: then ignore everyone calling you scum literally just don't acknowledge any of their posts and start quoting posts that you think make people scummy and the reasons why they are scummy for now take a break from the thread since you're clearly not in the right headspace to say or do anything and then come back with a clear mind and start spewing reads Okay this is probably better than what i said LS | ||
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On June 19 2015 07:46 NydusHerMain wrote: Sorry BF. For the people who didn't vote on GB, what are you thoughts on GB being potential scum? Curious. I know RS said he was town, but I want to know what other people think as well. The people who voted on him have large filters presumably on why GB is mafia. I just want to know where people stand before the day starts. So I just want to post this again because I think its a good question and a bunch of the people who voted on BFarn't around but should answer this when they get back. I also hope nydus is planning on answering this himself. | ||
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On June 19 2015 09:26 ShoCkeyy wrote: Sorry guys, was driving/eating dinner, going to catch up. I saw BF flipped town. So brings me back to this: You bitch about me switching to GB, then now bitch about me switching off, which one did you want? I switched to GB due to reasons mentioned. I would of stayed there, but BF's filter was scummy too. BF disappears before vote ended while GB kept defending himself, which made me second guess the vote and I switched to BF. what do you think about GB now? Also bugs what information should people gather from you and ritoky discussing who is better than who? | ||
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On June 19 2015 09:36 wherebugsgo wrote: they can gather whatever information they want, really most people in this game don't seem to have the ability to comprehend what they read anyway Yeah but you can see where VA is coming from. You said last game (i think?) that your main problem was not forming reads but convincing others of those reads.It doesn't help if your filter has splattering s of posts which arn't that useful and are tiresome to read again and again. | ||
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On June 19 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote: <3 bresh i'm gonna bounce my thoughts off you later; you plan on being around yeah? Should be, I have work in like 8 hours (which will go for 5 hours) But I assume you mean before then | ||
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On June 19 2015 10:21 LightningStrike wrote: I will be in about a half hour because I playing Liquidlegends.net inhouses atm but you can drop by the claim question stuff now if you want to talk about it. Yeah im just wondering why you unclaimed. Since the original reason for claiming was to get rid of pressure so isn't that pressure jsut going to come back? Also you claim was fairly safe since you hadn't been CC'd and you didnt have any abilities that you had to prove. This is like fringe stuff though so if you want to talk about your reads like ritoky said that is fine and probably better. | ||
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On June 19 2015 11:02 rsoultin wrote: for anyone wondering... i'm just gonna come right out and be blunt about it (sorry if i offend you ls) lightningstrike, who barely can scratch together the motivation to play under normal circumstances, has been trying way too hard for scum given circumstances that he'd have to be a complete asshole to make up. and he's not a complete asshole <3 simply, if he rolled scum, he would definitely have replaced out much earlier and i sincerely doubt hts doesn't prioritize his request all things considered like the only way this isn't true if he's lying about what happened which i refuse to believe he'd even consider doing he's basically confirmed town in my eyes, and really should be to any players who know him more than passingly that's my spiel damnnn this read feels dirty. What if after last game he decided to try and step it up. | ||
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On June 19 2015 11:14 rsoultin wrote: dirty in what way? like, there are things about lightningstrike that i simply don't say cause it's not my place, but this comes from a place beyond meta or tone and goes right to his personality. i've talked to him extensively and we've spent time together outside this forum. personally, and i understand if people don't accept this judgment but i'm pretty confident of it, i think it is completely beyond him to do this as scum. he's been criticized multiple times for being lazy as scum and not playing simply because he's not "motivated". if he ever does overcome that, i sincerely doubt this is that first time Like dirty as in it can't be argued with if that makes sense? Maybe more like scum will be pissed because there goes a misslynch they could have gotten and there is nothing they can really do about it because it is based not on what LS has provided for the game but on who he is as a person. Dirty was definitely the wrong word but I think that jsut comes from the fact that I will probably never vote on LS because of it. | ||
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On June 19 2015 11:12 NydusHerMain wrote: Only fidei answered and I didn't like it very much since his entire game right now hinges on "inactivity due to spam." Same as his reason for not voting on GB? I'm thinking that GB could very well be mafia but I'll tell you my opinion on him when the day starts. We're going to start a good scum hunt when the day starts boys. I can feel it in my bones. Hmm. I find this very intresting but im happy to wait for the day to start. I disliked that when fidel was talking about how he came about his town read on GB he talked more about his last game than this game. I get he was trying to find a parallel but it felt very rushed considering he apparently just read the guys entire filter and that he is going against what is thread consensus | ||
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On June 19 2015 11:22 rsoultin wrote: lol sorry >< i wasn't trying to manipulate anyone really, just...i don't think after coming to that conclusion that i can easily avoid tearing into people for going after him so i figured it best to just post it now nah it isn't manipulative idk where you got that from.\ the read is fine the read is good. It is a necessary thing to post and it makes sense and it prevents town from going down a bad path. | ||
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On June 19 2015 11:28 rsoultin wrote: my one just trust me read hahaha that isn't going to work so well but we will see how stuff turns out. What about damdred do you still have the same toneread? | ||
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On June 19 2015 11:50 rsoultin wrote: he's one of the players i particularly want to take another look at, because i think i may have been wrong on him. i'm actually doing schoolwork right now, but i'll flesh that out one way or another tonight if you're patient Nah its fine I need to relook at him or maybe take my first look at him is better phrasing but I can wait I should probably do some more exam study anyway. | ||
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On June 19 2015 12:16 LightningStrike wrote: Quoting my answer to make it easier for you to see since it was at the bottom of the page: Me sheeping rsouls most recent read makes me questioning you about any of your claim stuff redundent Basically what it was going to amount to is I don't understand how you thought unclaiming would make the thing you dislike, being pressure, stop occurring. I eagerly await your reads thingo though. | ||
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I'm fairly sure it is the same reason why bugs seems to not call me bad and what not because im shit at forming reads often so rely on others to point out stuff to get me going. Saying this makes me sound like I think im an expert on the guy but I think bugs likes it when people show they understand and agree with what he is saying. If you read witch and pay attention to our interactions you will hopefully get that feeling. So while you could be right rso based of an entire ONE GAME of meta i'd say it is easily a town bugs thing to do aswell | ||
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On June 19 2015 13:07 rsoultin wrote: nh so basically my instincts are probably right that he likes ls cause ls agrees with him but this doesn't necessarily make him scum @.@ eh i don't have anything constructive to say about that i'm trying to do a vote analysis that is less vote analysis and more...vote+read analysis if you remember, bresh, that's how i came to the conclusion you were town in student v despite everyone scumreading you, and what they ultimately mislynched me for >< is why i'm asking ls to do different legwork. don't have the time for it all before EoN do you do similar analysis? i'd be interested to see what you thought, but if it's not your cup of tea, that's fine This isn't what i meant to be honest. It is more like he has an affinity to like LS because their play styles can work better together. I think he gave a good reason why he though LS was town for the role claim so saying he only likes LS because LS agrees with him is selling it short. I'm not sure what you mean to be honest but the votes don't really give me that much other than like if there is mafia voting on GB who is it? Like I can justify a town read on all those people other than VA. So either there is mafia in yamato/ritoky (im currently townreading ritoky) or mafia had a vested interest in getting BF lynched over GB. | ||
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On June 19 2015 14:34 GlowingBear wrote: Ok I've revisited my case on Breshke and it has good logic but it's weak. I admit it. Yet I have two problems with you Breshke, that I would like to understand: 1) You called me town on a game I was scum. You called me town again here. What is different from that game that made you feel comfotable enough on early game? 2) You only started being aggressive when LS blue claimed. Yet, last game you've cast your vote on me very fast to apply pressure. Can you explain to me why your gameplay is differing from that game? Why you only started scum hunting after like the first 3 quarters of day1? I didn't consider your play last game when reading you this game. Was I applying that much pressure last game? I seem to remember I kind of just voted you and piggy backed off of WBG's push. But yeah I find it easier to be more forceful in threads where there isnt as many experienced players. If you look at like any of the newbie games ive played in I think I play more aggressive/involved there. | ||
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On June 19 2015 15:34 GlowingBear wrote: You voted more easily last game and you clearly showed what you did dislike there. I've seen you defending or at least deflecting pressures much more in this game than in that one. About number (1), I didn't actually implied that you should be comparing those games. But if you called me town there and I was scum, shouldn't you be more paranoid/cautious before giving me a town read? When you say I have deflected pressure do you mean on myself or on others? Where have I done this? It also comes under the same thing that I felt more comfortable doing that last game there nothing else i can tell you about that. Also yeah i know what you are trying to say but yeah I havn't been comparing you at all but I did think your early play was really townie. Like i could follow your reads so easily and it felt natural. So I was fine with townreading you then. | ||
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Fidel - cos ya know I probably think ritoky is more townie than you do because I understand his viewpoint when he wanted to lynch LS even though he thought LS might be town. It was more of a "town won't get past this if everyone doesn't agree he is town" kind of thing. Also iirc he was the first person to ping out mig and it was a really good pickup since I still think mig is scummy. Obviously still disagree on GB and if you look at the votes like where all your town are it looks fairly bad. Maybe VA is mafia he is a coinflip but if he isn't I really think the GB wagon is all town and while it could happen with town GB i don't see why it would have. I also have the filthiest of wifom on why yamato and GB could be mafia together but it's fairly bad so its kinda a meh thing and shouldn't/probably wouldn't change anyones read. My lynch order is actually the same as yours except with Gb at the front. I also really like your like non read yet town on nydus because i think im picking up on the same stuff | ||
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Also rso you keep saying people keep telling you bugs is good and this is nitpicky as fuck but im fairly sure only LS has done that so I don't see why you keep harping on about it. | ||
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On June 19 2015 23:04 rsoultin wrote: Bugs keeps telling us he's good and he was the driving force behind both scum lynches in witch as I understand it? So yes overall impression and unless you don't think he's good or thinks going after the players he did makes sense brush that is nitpicky as fuck XP I think a lot of players are good rsoul i don't really get your point but that's might be because it is late. I'm just failing to udnesatdn where bugs saying he is good or other people saying bugs is good comes into your read. Like you arn't seeing this "good" play so you think he is scum? | ||
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On June 19 2015 23:08 rsoultin wrote: Lol that wifom is possible actually...I remember gb complaining about bm to me something awful when it was going down Yeah it is possible but it is also not possible like i don't think it should affect anyones read but I felt like it needed to be out there | ||
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On June 19 2015 23:21 rsoultin wrote: I should explain better. Mig read and ignoring him bugs me if mig is scum Lots of finger pointing last night and sanding reads while giving nothing new himself and shot fights over nothing at all like with rit He does that only pick one thing from a post shot i've seen mafia do a lot, the better ones You really shouldnt use the term "bugs me" when talking about bugs it is really confusing haha Ill take a look at bugs next phase remind me if i forget, ill probs be going to bed soon and i feel like ive been posting too much this night phase without doing very much. | ||
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On June 20 2015 09:58 VayneAuthority wrote: nightkill means pussies are playing mafia, pretty useful to know On June 20 2015 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote: kinda reinforces the fact that GB is probably scum, he talks a lot in QT and has weird commitment issues on nightkills and actions. likes to second guess. A clear protection dodge on the nightkill. Nah this is deffs a weird view point in my opinion because if you come to the conclusion that GB is scum like you did there was 3 players i would say were pushing him the hardest. HF Bugs KSC Bugs replaced out so why kill the replacement who is a newbie and called GB town. KSC dead And how do you know HF wasnt targeted by mafia and someone got a save or succesfully roleblocked mafia. I don't really get your viewpoint VA | ||
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On June 20 2015 12:26 VayneAuthority wrote: im not even going to respond to that when KSC didnt even vote GB yesterday. just LOL Yes he did? | ||
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On June 20 2015 12:26 VayneAuthority wrote: im not even going to respond to that when KSC didnt even vote GB yesterday. just LOL So can you actually respond to it since he did vote GB | ||
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On June 20 2015 12:26 VayneAuthority wrote: im not even going to respond to that when KSC didnt even vote GB yesterday. just LOL On June 20 2015 12:27 VayneAuthority wrote: if you guys are gonna call me a lurker at least know what you're talking about eh? I actually read the game. | ||
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Can you explain why you don't want to lynch GB do you have him as town? Or do you just think shockey is scummier | ||
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How can you say you see a good move from a survival standpoint but not a mafia standpoint when surviving is mafias wincon. Could you make your next filter dive shockeyy please ruxxar. | ||
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On June 20 2015 22:07 rsoultin wrote: This is where i'm at too. GB looks town to me the vote doesn't make much sense if he's town. If y'all want to lynch him first I won't block it but i'd rather lynch mig or shockey lol And where did nydus and damdy go? Damdy has seemingly been busy. Do you think it is weird he seems to have the same unexplainable read on fidel you do? Idk about nydus. I thought he would be around near start of day since he said he was waiting till then to give his reads but guess not. I don't think that is scummy though | ||
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I'm honestly fine with lynching either shockey or GB today. Maybe shockey more than GB just because of the way he treats GB after the lynch like he doesn't seem to reconsider on him at all after a vote where a misslynch happened and GB was the counter wagon. So like Shockey can be mfia and GB could be town but I don't think GB can be mafia and shockey can be town. I feel like that's shit reasoning though so i'm going to vote GB anyway ##Vote Glowingbear | ||
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I don't think if the bugs/ruxxar slot is scum that when ruxxar replaces in he flips his read on GB. I think this holds up no matter what GB's allighnment is because if GB is mafia then they would probs tell him they (his partners) were bussing and he would keep that up and if GB is town then his partners tell him to continue the push on GB. I'm shit with replacements. | ||
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On June 20 2015 22:42 Holyflare wrote: no idea how va can say these were pussy nk's when one of them didn't even go through btw unless he knows the other one somehow He also changes what he was trying to say about the NK's later on aswell. To saying that killing KSC was bad because he would just get modkilled. | ||
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It also probably happend because I felt like I had to explain BUGS play to people like rsoul for example because she had never played with him whereas most people here know your meta. | ||
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On June 22 2015 06:19 GlowingBear wrote: Because if he was Mafia, bugs should be too Why? Also I'm not saying a check on me would be omgus and I also think checking someone who was under heavy suspicion not great because of the possibility of a framer but that's meh logic I'm not really buying this to be honest but could still see myself lynching Yamato today to see how it plays out | ||
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Im not resisting? Im saying if you are alive tomorrow it isn't a reason to lynch you. | ||
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Im going back to bed, not sure if i will be around much this night phase. | ||
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Why did you prefer mig here GB if you had a green on him? | ||
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On June 22 2015 13:37 Breshke wrote: Why did you prefer mig here GB if you had a green on him? Never mind its answered a couple posts later | ||
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On July 04 2015 09:57 rsoultin wrote: no worries bresh lol i'm not a paranoid person i was actually very surprised to see in the mafia qt that bugs' tunnels were deliberate and meant to discredit lol >< i just thought they were super weird choices but didn't think beyond that I feel like if you two were town you would have thought anyway though but it was still bad. Especially after ritoky asked me for my read on you two and i couldn't explain it AT ALL | ||
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On July 04 2015 10:05 rsoultin wrote: mmm we do seem to think differently but i don't know how often i actually clash to that extent with strong town players? like legitimately most of the strong town players i play with, we can get along just fine -shrugs- no way to know for sure with bugs though since i haven't seen his town play yeah good point OH WELL ya live ya learn | ||
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