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WBG trying to sniff out the smurfs. It is like it's a holy crusade.
I agree with GB that LS is town.
On June 17 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote: Hi guys I finally rolled town and I hope bugs had rolled town too since he played really good in the last game I played with him when I was scum vs his town :o
This post gives me good townie feelings
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WBG is trying to hunt for who the good players are again and it doesn't necessarily make him mafia it just makes him big headed
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On June 17 2015 08:00 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 07:58 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 07:56 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 07:55 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 07:51 GlowingBear wrote:On June 17 2015 07:42 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 07:35 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 07:32 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 07:31 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] Really anyone can just claim town you know -_- On June 17 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote: Hi guys I finally rolled town and I hope bugs had rolled town too since he played really good in the last game I played with him when I was scum vs his town :o derp. LOL good old LightningStrike he used :o already but I imagine if he rolled scum he'll be more careful this time to not get caught by me. Take this as your warning, you know that I know your meta. You better help me out this game or I hope for your sake that you are scum, cause you'll be dead before you know it. anyway, come out and play, Mig. You better not have rolled scum this game or I'll be disappointed I have no one good to talk to ##vote Mig lol that has to be the most fabricated, weak shit i've ever seen. Actually he does know my meta and in fact he made a meta case on me in Witchcraft III when I rolled scum and here was the case: On June 09 2015 05:35 wherebugsgo wrote:##vote LightningStrikeI think Lightning is like 95% scum. At first in my notes I had Lightning as having a scummy entrance, focusing a lot on asking people questions but using a tone and posting style that is very non-confrontational. This causes LS's posts to come off as forced and I find it hard to piece together his logic if he were town. e.g. this post: On June 08 2015 08:49 LightningStrike wrote:On June 08 2015 08:44 Breshke wrote:On June 08 2015 08:35 LightningStrike wrote: So Breshke any thoughts on Wherebugsgo right now? not really. Do you? On June 08 2015 08:36 wherebugsgo wrote: [quote]
I think they would be more likely to reveal themselves as town.
Granted, a smurf does not have to reveal themselves to be useful to town. I have smurfed myself, and the reason I do it is often quite simple-most people don't ask, and those who do can be placated by providing opinions and good reads. I have never had the luxury of rolling scum while smurfing, but if I ever did I do not doubt it would be one of the easiest ways to achieve victory.
It is plainly obvious why smurfing is far more advantageous to the individual player than the team as a whole. The town only benefits if the player who is smurfing is a high caliber town player, rolls town, and escapes getting shot night 1 due to being a smurf. Otherwise, town stands to gain nothing from a mediocre townie or a bad townie smurfing other than a lack of insight into the player's behaviour.
You should always hold smurfs to a higher standard because if they refuse to reveal their identity then you have no background to be working with. You have no expectation of their play, and an ordinarily good townie has rolled scum on a smurf you have no way of knowing. Yeah I understand this but that doesn't make not revealing who you are to be alignment indicative. If someone has chosen to smurf they have chosen pre game that they probably don't want to reveal who they are. I feel like saying, reveal yourself or get lynched, is a waste because it depends on the player on how they will act so you can't really get much from that. Also to talk about this now instead of when mafia will be trying to hunt roles. I think it is best in at least the first phase that a lot of the chosen powers are information type roles specifically scrying I kinda dislike his pressure on FreezingFoot since FreezingFoot could be a smurf and him calling him out so early just seems like it's a preplanned motion from him regardless of his alignment so null. Notice the qualifications I've bolded here. He doesn't like it, but goes back and says oh I guess it could be preplanned. So it's null. Null is not a read. There's also this that follows: On June 08 2015 08:50 LightningStrike wrote: Also sure it would be nice knowing FreezingFoot's aka but it's not as important as finding scum. Notice LS says it's not as important as finding scum but LS doesn't actually ever attempt to find scum. Half of LS's posts focus on "hey I'll be back later" and are also seemingly very self-aware. e.g: On June 08 2015 09:02 LightningStrike wrote: Well guys I going to get some dinner and when I come back I will check everything that goes on after this post! Townies don't generally do this so freaking often. You don't need to announce to everyone that you're going to do your job as a townie, unless you are very new or scum. So at first I ignored LS because I thought, maybe I'm wrong and this dude is new. I needed more info, however, so I posted this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?page=14#262 while looking into LS's past games. TL Mafia database has a LOT of games for LS. So he is NOT a new player. This instantly made me more suspicious, but I wanted to see if as town LS was more confident and helpful. Turns out, LS is one of those players I would say has a very clear cut difference between town and mafia. I would suggest you all to skim over some of LS's past games, but in particular the ones that stand out are: Jack of All TradesHorn of AfricaStudent Mini Mafia (although this one is from when LS was newer) XXX Mini MafiaCompare these quotes in the spoilers: + Show Spoiler +1. LightningStrike wrote:I'm back and I finding Geript pretty townie this game but than again I never played vs his Mafia yet but so far I feel he's pushing and asking a ton of questions is pretty much him being town. Slam is thinking logically so far although I hate how he suggested a RNG shot Blazinghand style but he been pushing out ideas and not being boring like he was in Slytherin and Student IV when he was Mafia so I giving him a town read by meta. HTS looks really shakey and starting to look a tiny bit like her Void and Newbie LX Mafia games so possible Mafia by meta. rsoultin I love you and all but I need some extra time on you from the fact that I just coming off of 2 games of you being Mafia and might get some paranoia which I might have still on HTS because I not completely forgiven her for lynching me in Newbie LX. But you being very cheerful so far but idk if that is alignment indicative. Tubesock I hated the No Shoot idea but the logic behind it seems townie but I have yet to see him play as Mafia. Breshke is asking some questions and also reconsider his own thoughts and looks townie. Damdred you need to bleed town this game to me because the last time I played with you in Titanic you were Mafia yet you looked so townie in my eyes I just couldn't really play right Your Mom and Sepulchre are both smurfs and idk their other ids but I finding Sepulchre pretty townie on his large post and asking questions with some good explanations for why he thought of stuff like HTS making them intentionally bad or bait and his thing on OBS but I remember OBS having bad Day 1s as town so I would give OBS some extra time to see if he bleeds town. Your Mom haven't posted much either and got Null on him simply because he got very short questions and posts so far so I might need more posts from him to see where he lies for now. vs 2. LightningStrike wrote: Town: Eden: Played with before when he was Mafia and Town but we he seems to be town this game. Geript: Toneread says town he seems to ask some good questions. Snickers: Being extremely serious and giving his thoughts freely it kind of reminds me of a more serious me. Oatsmaster: Trying to get discussions going with pms and stuff but also he just being himself as town this game. Liancourt: He seems interested this game which is a good sign for him being town although I never him play as Mafia before. Null: Koshi: 1 post from him this game and it isn't really alignment indicative. sicklucker: I can't read him anymore on Day 1 after playing with him when he was Mafia and I was town. Also his Day 1 is bad. VisceraEyes: 1 post and wasn't alignment indicative need more posts from him.
Both summary posts, early in the game. Answer: + Show Spoiler +1. LightningStrike wrote: I don't disagree for now on the Eden read. Rsoultin just seems to happy to be Mafia given she played as Mafia twice in a row into Town with me lol. I'm sorry I was Mafia in that game Damdred it just hurt when you called me Mafia but Geript carried me till he died and did a hilarious bus on Sandroba when sicklucker got lynched lol........ vs 2. LightningStrike wrote:Okay what reasoning you got for voting Damdred because I don't see anything but just the vote onto him without a explanation. Answer: + Show Spoiler +1 LightningStrike wrote: I agree with you on kita Rayn considering a lot has happened since his last post and not really commenting anything relevant except for the shot ideas. Also I remember Toad being mostly carefree early in Hammertime when I was a Cohost when he was Town and he coming across the same way so I incline to think he's town. Rayn you know how to read Sicklucker from my past experience with you and him together any thoughts on Sicklucker so far? vs 2 vs 3 LightningStrike wrote:Sorry I was playing LoL game and HF's case on JAT is legit now that we seen HF flip Town and he made many good points on JAT and honestly the bully behavior that JAT displayed this game when people were voting is consistent with his behavior in Void mafia where he bullied people off him in the entire game as scum. Here's his filter from that game although he just was smurfing in that game that is why the name might be off His scum game in Void: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475749-the-void-mafia?user=Wile E. Coyote answer: + Show Spoiler +1. LightningStrike wrote: I'm back and sicklucker is fighting Breshke instead of the other cell mates o.o Also Geript being mad at Kita too and Tube fighting Geript this is interesting stuff going on here and personally I never played in a Cell Setup before so this interesting. Also Geript claimed he got Vig powers and claimed to had shot Sep but yet Sep survived so most likely Ninja in Sep if what Geript was saying is true. I will admit I guarded the Button since we don't know what the button does I thought it was safe play since it kind of like the presents in Carol where we gotten random Presents 1 from a Mass Murderer when unwraped instant kill the person 1 with a Cop power for the Night and 1 with a Vig Shot for the Night and since it prob pure rng what we get I really don't want to give Mafia extra powers or extra powers for ninjas either and weighed it in myself and decided to guard the button. vs 2. LightningStrike wrote: Sorry for not posting much and a update on reading Sandro's past games and will come up with stuff for tomorrow and sicklucker paranoia went through my head sorry and now seeing some light that you are more likely town than Mafia. Tomorrow I will present my findings on Sandro's past games as both alignments and present everything I have on him. vs 3. LightningStrike wrote: I was just wating for more posts to get some better reads that why I haven't posted much because there was really much for me to ready. I still waiting for alakaslam, Dicksmash McIroncock, and Meatpudding to post. My reads are atm the following Town: Oatsmaster, sicklucker, Damdred, kushm4sta, Trfel Null: Half the Sky, Breshke, Alakaslam Scum: Dicksmash McIroncock, Meatpudding. Dicksmash didn't post anything after his first post for the day and Meatpudding is either trolling us with the stuff he posted earlier or he scum but time will tell. Alakaslam at least gave a good explanation for his posts. Breshke gave a explanation on why he voted for sicklucker Half the Sky made some decent posts but it reads null in my eyes but I still kind of new to TL Mafia (2nd game in TL mafia). vs 4. LightningStrike wrote: Guys fyi I wont be here from about 11:45 am to at least 4:30 pm CST and I still think Sandroba is Mafia based on meta and Oats I getting him as Town as he playing like he did in Office, Void, and New Years Eve Party where he was a little lazy but he seemed a little motivated now to play the game although I wished he had played on Day 1 but he's here now. 5. On March 08 2015 22:39 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up and will answer your question. Tubesock I thinking some resemblances of her last game in Titanic now and Day 1 I had paranoia because before Titanic when I played her she was Mafia and rolled Mafia in another game too. The reason I seeing some resemblances from this game to Titanic because in that game she also was confused on setup stuff esp on the fact we had 2 Jail Keepers ( Nigella in Carol) and she having some confusions this game on setup stuff too. So a slight Town meta read on her. Onegu since you confirmed town by the Cop Check I will do as you ask just promise me you shoot Geript okay? HTS Happy Birthday Girl I assuming you going to party for a bit ##Unvote ##Vote: Onegu Answer: + Show Spoiler +LS's scum play is very very non confrontational and he generally gets away pretty well with just asking questions and making excuses for not having strong opinions or posting much. Tends to be very self-conscious in the thread when he rolls scum, which makes it very easy to recognize him ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) He knows me inside and out :o But now you're self aware of it and it can't be used anymore I was just making a point to KSC as to why I didn't think it was fabricated stuff from bugs that's all. I see that he made a good case on you in a previous game. that wasn't what was fabricated. The content of the post i quoted was weak and fabricated. my mafia sensor went red alert. Is the vote on Mig by him that making it go red alert or are you sure it's not yellow alert? it's his bullshit defence of you, his weird fucking "oh be careful i've got my eye on you" crap and then his stupid fucking vote. since then he read the thread backwards which is usually mafia and he asked some stupid question about how good nydus is on a scale...which is totally pointless and serves no purpose. He is mafia and you should all vote him.
Like read the post again from the point of view of someone who thinks they are top tier and a lot of other people are shitters. It doesn't seem as scummy.
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On June 17 2015 08:06 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:03 Breshke wrote: WBG is trying to hunt for who the good players are again and it doesn't necessarily make him mafia it just makes him big headed How did you reach this conclusion?
Him asking how bad nydus is, also the thing he directed toward mig who i assumed he has played with before and thinks is good. Also felt fine jumping to this conclusion because of last game.
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On June 17 2015 08:07 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:03 Breshke wrote: WBG is trying to hunt for who the good players are again and it doesn't necessarily make him mafia it just makes him big headed have you played with any of these players much? what do you think of LS's posts this game so far?
Some but I wouldn't say I can judge who is good and who is bad nor would I really want to. I assume thats why you are asking me this question.
I really liked his opening. I find it hard thinking that LS could make that first post as scum idk it just feels really genuine. Also the rest of his posts don't really seem forced which I think is one of the biggest giveaways for scum LS and is something that would be hard to change.
On June 17 2015 08:08 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:06 GlowingBear wrote:On June 17 2015 08:03 Breshke wrote: WBG is trying to hunt for who the good players are again and it doesn't necessarily make him mafia it just makes him big headed How did you reach this conclusion? I'm not going to speak for him, but given that he played with me in the previous game while you were busy being scum, and he actually uses his head (unlike you) you should consider thinking a bit more like him and a little less like you
Also relax with this. GB coached me a bunch when I first started, I honestly don't understand why you are acting like him since he was scum last game so any reasoning you thought was bad from him doesn't mean shit because he was scum.
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On June 17 2015 08:08 GlowingBear wrote: Breshke, let's lynch Onegu!
But you arn't even voting him. Is this a trap?
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On June 17 2015 08:26 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:15 Breshke wrote:
Also relax with this. GB coached me a bunch when I first started, I honestly don't understand why you are acting like him since he was scum last game so any reasoning you thought was bad from him doesn't mean shit because he was scum.
nah I'm not sure GB gleaned anything useful about anyone's play from the last game given that he was scum if he is town this game he should probably consider that at the very least, given that it is his only exposure to my play
SO you think GB should try meta read you off of one game?
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On June 17 2015 08:33 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:30 Breshke wrote:On June 17 2015 08:26 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 08:15 Breshke wrote:
Also relax with this. GB coached me a bunch when I first started, I honestly don't understand why you are acting like him since he was scum last game so any reasoning you thought was bad from him doesn't mean shit because he was scum.
nah I'm not sure GB gleaned anything useful about anyone's play from the last game given that he was scum if he is town this game he should probably consider that at the very least, given that it is his only exposure to my play SO you think GB should try meta read you off of one game? I would expect him to at least consider my last game, yes. Your question comes off as really leading though, there's not some sort of binary extreme between being incapable of reading someone and having to autoread them after one game. Not all players fall into that, although some tend to be very easily distinguishable. But I'm probably biased given that I think I am pretty easy to read as town.
Yeah it was leading because I have a problem with how you consider yourself. I know you say you are a much better scum player than town player right? Yet you also think you are an easy townread which doesn't make sense if your scum play is better than your town play. Does it not mean people should be wary of you even if they are reading you town.
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On June 17 2015 08:48 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:36 Breshke wrote:On June 17 2015 08:33 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 08:30 Breshke wrote:On June 17 2015 08:26 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 08:15 Breshke wrote:
Also relax with this. GB coached me a bunch when I first started, I honestly don't understand why you are acting like him since he was scum last game so any reasoning you thought was bad from him doesn't mean shit because he was scum.
nah I'm not sure GB gleaned anything useful about anyone's play from the last game given that he was scum if he is town this game he should probably consider that at the very least, given that it is his only exposure to my play SO you think GB should try meta read you off of one game? I would expect him to at least consider my last game, yes. Your question comes off as really leading though, there's not some sort of binary extreme between being incapable of reading someone and having to autoread them after one game. Not all players fall into that, although some tend to be very easily distinguishable. But I'm probably biased given that I think I am pretty easy to read as town. Yeah it was leading because I have a problem with how you consider yourself. I know you say you are a much better scum player than town player right? Yet you also think you are an easy townread which doesn't make sense if your scum play is better than your town play. Does it not mean people should be wary of you even if they are reading you town. I think I'm a better scum player than town but I would rate my town play like 2 on a scale of 1 to 10 and my scum play as a 5 I think it's fairly obvious when I am town because I personally put in far more effort when I am town. For example in the last game I must've read at least half a dozen of LS's games over the space of day 1 just to make sense of his posts. It's actually a point of frustration for me when the only serious lynches I've had to deal with were all as town because normally I take almost no suspicion at all when I am scum. I think I've been lynched twice as scum and both times I felt it was not really my fault and more a fault of my lazy teammates. Also people have said what you have said before and I welcome people to scrutinize my reads and my play. It'll help me get better at least, but I find it odd that most people call me town when I am scum and scum when I am town.
hmm. I assumed your self rating of your scum play would be higher since in witch you said you were 90% sure you were better than me as scum. I guess this fits in with your other opinion that 99% of people on this forum are bad at playing scum.
But moving on. If you think it is obvious that you are town because of the effort you put in how do you think GB would read you town when you havn't shown to be putting in this extra effort yet this game. Not that you havn't been putting in effort but I wouldn't say it compares yet to last game. This has a lot to do with being two hours in but still I don't follow how you think GB should have that read on you.
This also isn't really going anywhere because I don't think it makes you scum I just think it shows that you want to call GB bad.
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On June 17 2015 09:45 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 09:42 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 09:38 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 09:32 ritoky wrote: dear rsoul,
i have a strange request for you. i don't want you to tell me what your read on me is, i just want to tell me if you have one or not.
sincerely, choppa 4 oooooooh strange requests! (nah. thoughts and glimmers but nothing worth posting about ^^) have you decided if i'm the big bad wolf who pocketed you last game again this game or not yet? ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif) you're probably town, cuz you have called your read on me shit in past games and past post games so the fact that you're not quick to arrive anywhere prob means you're hesitant town. -wrinkles nose at- except i used this last game we played, too that doesn't make me town ^^ filter length doesn't make me town being generally awesome (sorry sandy ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) ) doesn't make me town what concerns me right now is that i can say "i'd say rit was town if he hadn't fooled me badly before" in a scum game over and over yet you still use it to read me as town here for shame, rit when you're scum you're like oprah with your reads. ![[image loading]](http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/3186960/you-get-a-car-o.gif) i think your hesitancy to hand me a gumball is more town indicative. deall wif it.
10/10
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On June 17 2015 10:20 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 10:17 Breshke wrote:On June 17 2015 09:45 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 09:42 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 09:38 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 09:32 ritoky wrote: dear rsoul,
i have a strange request for you. i don't want you to tell me what your read on me is, i just want to tell me if you have one or not.
sincerely, choppa 4 oooooooh strange requests! (nah. thoughts and glimmers but nothing worth posting about ^^) have you decided if i'm the big bad wolf who pocketed you last game again this game or not yet? ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif) you're probably town, cuz you have called your read on me shit in past games and past post games so the fact that you're not quick to arrive anywhere prob means you're hesitant town. -wrinkles nose at- except i used this last game we played, too that doesn't make me town ^^ filter length doesn't make me town being generally awesome (sorry sandy ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) ) doesn't make me town what concerns me right now is that i can say "i'd say rit was town if he hadn't fooled me badly before" in a scum game over and over yet you still use it to read me as town here for shame, rit when you're scum you're like oprah with your reads. ![[image loading]](http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/3186960/you-get-a-car-o.gif) i think your hesitancy to hand me a gumball is more town indicative. deall wif it. 10/10 -pokes bresh- so you think that's true? i'm terrible at judging myself lol i left i cause yeah...if you can't tell if something holds water you can't tell ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) hffffffffff -flops on- please tell me you're town hf
I think it is true that you give town reads easier as mafia than as town. I say this with hindsight though because ive never noticed it in game when you were scum.
The 10/10 was more directed at him calling scum rsoul oprah.
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On June 17 2015 10:34 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 10:32 Breshke wrote:On June 17 2015 10:20 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 10:17 Breshke wrote:On June 17 2015 09:45 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 09:42 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 09:38 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 09:32 ritoky wrote: dear rsoul,
i have a strange request for you. i don't want you to tell me what your read on me is, i just want to tell me if you have one or not.
sincerely, choppa 4 oooooooh strange requests! (nah. thoughts and glimmers but nothing worth posting about ^^) have you decided if i'm the big bad wolf who pocketed you last game again this game or not yet? ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif) you're probably town, cuz you have called your read on me shit in past games and past post games so the fact that you're not quick to arrive anywhere prob means you're hesitant town. -wrinkles nose at- except i used this last game we played, too that doesn't make me town ^^ filter length doesn't make me town being generally awesome (sorry sandy ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) ) doesn't make me town what concerns me right now is that i can say "i'd say rit was town if he hadn't fooled me badly before" in a scum game over and over yet you still use it to read me as town here for shame, rit when you're scum you're like oprah with your reads. ![[image loading]](http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/3186960/you-get-a-car-o.gif) i think your hesitancy to hand me a gumball is more town indicative. deall wif it. 10/10 -pokes bresh- so you think that's true? i'm terrible at judging myself lol i left i cause yeah...if you can't tell if something holds water you can't tell ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) hffffffffff -flops on- please tell me you're town hf I think it is true that you give town reads easier as mafia than as town. I say this with hindsight though because ive never noticed it in game when you were scum. The 10/10 was more directed at him calling scum rsoul oprah. jat may have said something similar lol fair enough breshke-chan scummish idiocy or smarting ego, you think? (yes i trust you to know what i'm talking about ^^)
I honestly don't know yet. He looked like he was going to pursue nydus early but im fairly sure that is because he though he was a smurf and he likes pushing smurfs.
The rest of his play is what i expect and I didn't really see any scummy stuff from it which makes me townread him but i know thats jsut because I like town reading people so it is kinda null. I think it will become more obvious later in the day like he said with the effort he put in last game with so many people he hasn't played with im interested what he comes up with from diving old games which he seemed to like to do and seemed to have success with.
That's a lot of words for a null read but meh . Also I 100% knew you two would rub each other the wrong way.
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On June 17 2015 10:45 GlowingBear wrote: Oh, Bill Murray confirmed?
##Vote: Bill Murray
GB pls no
Was your list listed from like most scummy to least scummy? If not who do you think is most scummy?
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On June 17 2015 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 10:53 Breshke wrote:On June 17 2015 10:45 GlowingBear wrote: Oh, Bill Murray confirmed?
##Vote: Bill Murray GB pls no Was your list listed from like most scummy to least scummy? If not who do you think is most scummy? It wasn't, and I have a tie between Onegu and boxerfred right now. I think Onegu is a better lynch, actually I'm really wary of Kelsier now, btw.
Why for kelsier?
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WBG let me explain this for you.
Rsoul used to think she had a good read on LS because she caught him scum in her first game but then basically townread him almost every game after that. She was obviously wrong eventually and realized her read was either wrong or LS changed his play. She still gets those frequent townreads on LS so when she was reading LS town this game she was hesitant about it but then because many others were also reading him town she felt less bad about it.
Now explain if the above thing is scummy or not because i ceebs you and rsoul going at it because she explained it in an rsoul way and you reacted to it in a bugs way
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On June 17 2015 11:17 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:On June 17 2015 11:11 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:08 GlowingBear wrote:On June 17 2015 11:06 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:03 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 10:05 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 10:02 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 10:01 rsoultin wrote: [quote]
<3
how cute! it thinks it can lynch me
(if you think that's going to prompt me to make shit up to satisfy you, think again lovely)
is this supposed to be a fake strong response? I expect you to have reasons for reads. When I ask you for a reason and you literally quote a post of yourself instead of explaining I think there's a great chance you are bullshitting. So it's okay, you don't need to make MORE shit up, you already made up enough for me to call you scum. -yawns- didn't someone say you were supposed to be good? there's a world of difference between no reasoning and no reasoning you approve of Qualifying something as a tone read isn't a reason. It's a cop out. For anyone reading this, take a look at the following. Stuff like this s town but not town cause i'm bad about wrongly reading him town yay! i feel safer when others do it too, though! \o/ Is a great example of responsibility deflection. This is what scum do when they want to give the appearance of having reads but do not want to entrench themselves in any one position because they don't want to get held accountable for them. There's no reason rsoultin here needs to make any sort of statement on LS, but even so why qualify it like this? Let's say rsoultin actually thinks LS is town. This is not actually a reason to believe LS is town. All she is saying is that I think he's town now because other people think he's town, and providing a reason for not having a reason. "I think he's town but don't hold me to that cause I'm bad at reading him! hahaa but it's okay cause other people think he's town, right?" The last part is a great way for rsoultin to get further thread sentiment about LS. It doesn't make sense from a town perspective to say something like this because townies will make the read for themselves and will only qualify what other people say when necessary. Here it just feels forced. o.0 like...if we're taking a basic 3rd grade reading test you mean?
(he's beating out wbg though lol...
"you have no justification for your read" "it's right there" "no it's not" "here it is" "i think you're scum cause you quoted it" "well aren't you the sharpest tool in the shed"
for more paraphrases from rsoul, leave a message after the beep )
and this Yes, let's continue paraphrasing useless shit in an attempt to appear more townie. Repeating yourself by paraphrase is probably the worst way I've ever seen someone try to fake providing reads. You're digging yourself deeper every time you post. aw cutie, you're not reading me at all if you think i don't have reads -amused- narratives bore me. when you're done writing fairytales, let me know when you're done copping out I might consider unvoting you. however, you can just ask LS how hard I will tunnel you to death. And right now I can guarantee you will flip red once I'm done. Can you not tunnel for a minute and give thoughts on other players? nope give me a good reason we shouldn't lynch rsoultin. You could also comment on the post I just made on her motivations as well. Do you think she has a town motivation this game? What makes you think yes/no? I usually ignore her until LYLO. If she is alive we just vote her. I'm not really putting too much thought on her right now. Time will tell. bravo, what an uplifting strategy. Let's ignore a player until literally the last possible moment, when if you are wrong you fucking lose the game.
Bugs pls you said you were going to ignore half the players last game.
Tell me about damdreds alignment.
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On June 17 2015 11:26 GlowingBear wrote: Like, Bugs, I want first to actually form a read on you. And for that I need to know how you're approaching the game.
Opinions on other players, for example, help me with that.
I wouldn't lynch her day one solely for activity. So talking about her NOW is a waste of time.
And talking ABOUT you is also. But talking WITH YOU is important to me. I think we have much better targets.
This fight between you two actually feels very weird.
Yes yes yes this.
The fight isn't going to go anywhere either because I think you are both too stubborn and 20 posts later you are still going to be going on about the same thing. So let's move on and come back later if need be.
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