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On June 26 2015 06:27 rsoultin wrote: lol nope not gonna focus on bugs like an entire scumteam was afk 4 hours leading up to the day post it's okay, scum. keep yelling nonsense  How does it matter if the scum team were there if ruxxar had 0 posts. Stop skirting around the actual issue. | ||
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I haven't looked into damdred, shockey and NHM yet So what you're telling me is that when i made a case on damdred and you responded you did so without even giving a crap about damdred's filter?? | ||
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I recognise that there is a very minimal chance that HF is miller/was framed, but given that it's a red check from the confirmed cop, I think the odds are much better there than they would be with anyone else. You realise that this automatically loses us the game? It's not a "minimal chance" it's the actual fact of the matter. You need to reevaluate. I realise that having rsoultin in your qt is a detriment since she was so tunneled on wifom scenarios that she couldn't see the actual version of events that unfolded and repeatedly shut down any discourse for the correct version of events but still. I totally understand how hard it is to believe someone that has a red check on them but at least try what i did yesterday and make scenarios for the 2 eventualities that will unfold. "if hf is town mafia is x, y, z" "if hf is mafia then mafia x, y, z" because that way you won't be totally tunneled on the wrong situation | ||
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On June 26 2015 23:12 ruXxar wrote: HF, I'd be happy if you'd read the post I made about you here, and responded to it. Take it all into consideration and try to imagine it from my point of view. The chance that you aren't mafia is so small that I can't see a reason to believe that you aren't. Of course you're going to say that you're town if you're mafia. Anything else would just lose you the game. Like tell me, if you were a betting man, would you put money on you being mafia or not? Your reasons are silly and tunneled. I am clearly a miller or framed, stop judging by scenarios and judge by my actual play! Where have i pushed mafia things? I've only pushed what i believe to be the case. Gb said he checked lightningstrike but town read him on n1. He then checks me when he said all of my mafia reads that i had been pushing were his mafia reads? Then mig reveals he's tracker. I believed the sensible option and was wrong. See how that works? The most obvious is not always the case. I was supremely tunneled on gb being mafia and my vote was already on gb before mig claimed tracker. Like you said. Mig claiming gets a free cop death or ends in his death anyway. Gb said he had to go to school and then mig claimed without the resistance. It's not hard to reason that mig took that chance. Onegu could be mafia anyway and he didn't "need" mafia to do it and i'm not sure why you say mafia must be on it when the majority of the wagon was town. You yourself even started to believe the claim, are you saying you are mafia too? None of your reasons point to me being mafia. If i'm a tunneled towny and see the person i call mafia all game promote the shittiest reads and checks with bad reasons amd then i see something to convince me I'm right what would i do in that situation? The exact same thing. | ||
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So many situations and you only pick one | ||
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On June 27 2015 06:31 ruXxar wrote: On June 27 2015 04:04 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 26 2015 23:12 ruXxar wrote: HF, I'd be happy if you'd read the post I made about you here, and responded to it. Take it all into consideration and try to imagine it from my point of view. The chance that you aren't mafia is so small that I can't see a reason to believe that you aren't. Of course you're going to say that you're town if you're mafia. Anything else would just lose you the game. Like tell me, if you were a betting man, would you put money on you being mafia or not? Your reasons are silly and tunneled. I am clearly a miller or framed, stop judging by scenarios and judge by my actual play! Where have i pushed mafia things? I've only pushed what i believe to be the case. Gb said he checked lightningstrike but town read him on n1. He then checks me when he said all of my mafia reads that i had been pushing were his mafia reads? Then mig reveals he's tracker. I believed the sensible option and was wrong. See how that works? The most obvious is not always the case. I was supremely tunneled on gb being mafia and my vote was already on gb before mig claimed tracker. Like you said. Mig claiming gets a free cop death or ends in his death anyway. Gb said he had to go to school and then mig claimed without the resistance. It's not hard to reason that mig took that chance. Onegu could be mafia anyway and he didn't "need" mafia to do it and i'm not sure why you say mafia must be on it when the majority of the wagon was town. You yourself even started to believe the claim, are you saying you are mafia too? None of your reasons point to me being mafia. If i'm a tunneled towny and see the person i call mafia all game promote the shittiest reads and checks with bad reasons amd then i see something to convince me I'm right what would i do in that situation? The exact same thing. + Show Spoiler + On June 24 2015 06:42 Holyflare wrote: it doesn't matter, i'll flip vt or miller and then you make sense of his claim later really don't think mafia would frame me in this case On June 24 2015 23:04 Holyflare wrote: like seriously this is mafia's thought process if you think i was framed and gb is town: "yeh gb is fake cop or whatever cz that mig check totally bad, who should we frame guys since he's not the cop? OH that guy that looks pretty towny and shit and will probably never ever get checked?????????" On June 25 2015 00:21 Holyflare wrote: If you believe mig is mafia and GB didn't get rb'd or killed because they thought he was fake claiming, then they would never ever in their life frame me since GB is the only one that would ever check me. On June 25 2015 01:27 Holyflare wrote: but this doesn't matter, they'll see my flip and go straight for you btw to everyone else, if he ever ever ever claims that i must be framed, do NOT believe that bull shit Clearly you were not framed. So the *only* reason you were redchecked is that you're a miller. I agree that this didn't make much sense. The only reason there was so many town people on that wagon was because VA outed himself. If VA didn't confirm that he went to bugs, I doubt very few town people would've actually switched to GB. I know I would never even have considered it if it wasn't for VA. There is *no way* that mig could've expected that "support" from VA. Hence he needed support from other mafioso to even have a shot. Otherwise he would've just let you die. I already showed you why mig wasn't in danger. ----- Everything else aside, you want me to take the 1/13 chance that you are the miller? That is a 8% chance. I'm not taking those odds. If i get lynched the game is over. It is quite simple. This is not a game about "chance". You see my play which isn't mafia aligned in the slightest and judge me on that. The fact of the matter is that I am town, mig didn't "need mafia support" since almost the entire wagon is town anyway and it looks like tmi that you are ignoring onegu and still pushing this false scenario when my reasoning is solid for why I am not mafia. It's pretty hard to get me mislynched isn't it? I will fight you till the ends of the earth. I've only ever been mislynched once for a reason. | ||
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On June 27 2015 09:37 ruXxar wrote: I'm not ignoring onegu in the slighest. You'll say that you're town no matter what alignment you are so that point is moot. The fact of the matter is that you have a redcheck on you. Forget all the scenarios, speculations and roles. Occam's razor my friend. Either way I've presented my stance. People will have to judge for themselves. I'm going to focus my energy on finding the rest of the scum. If you can read my filter and tell me you are sticking with occam's razor because of the red check then you are definitely claiming mafia. | ||
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On June 27 2015 22:57 Damdred wrote: I think it's a fair point. I think,shockey is a good lynch past today. Oneg Idk it's a toss up. HF did you ever respond to,my response to you? Link it? I remember disliking it. | ||
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On June 27 2015 23:02 Damdred wrote: You don't like any thing I do this game HF, I can't link on,phone. Nah i remember why i disliked it. You said i asked you for reasons why rsoultin was town despite lying about my meta and then answered nothing about her lying about my meta and wrote that giant wall of text which bypassed everything. It was only asked because you left an unqualified "i think rsoul is town" read when i was pushing her. So for me to look at your filter, to me all you have done is defend people without talking about the points i raise. Defending rsoul bypasses the crap meta read she gave. Defending ls bypassing everything because you had no real reason to and then never actually defended him and then defended gb after afking for the entire cycle right at the deadline ignoring the entire 2 cycles of posting i did towards him and then only saying you are 70% sure on him into more afking. So tell me damdred why was i supposed to town read you? | ||
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On June 27 2015 23:33 Holyflare wrote: Nah i remember why i disliked it. You said i asked you for reasons why rsoultin was town despite lying about my meta and then answered nothing about her lying about my meta and wrote that giant wall of text which bypassed everything. It was only asked because you left an unqualified "i think rsoul is town" read when i was pushing her. So for me to look at your filter, to me all you have done is defend people without talking about the points i raise. Defending rsoul bypasses the crap meta read she gave. Defending ls bypassing everything because you had no real reason to and then never actually defended him and then defended gb after afking for the entire cycle right at the deadline ignoring the entire 2 cycles of posting i did towards him and then only saying you are 70% sure on him into more afking. So tell me damdred why was i supposed to town read you? And this is how the timeline went down: Rsoul says shitty meta is correct I say she's mafia because there's no way she can believe that meta when the past 3 town games with her I've done the same stuff You say she's town I say wtf are you smoking She posts big wall You post wall of text that had no reasons why she would lie about my meta I say she does look towny anyway because of big wall but acknowledge your super weird defence in the back of my mind | ||
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I am sorry about your rl stuff and I'd pm you if it wasn't regarded as cheating, you know that dude. I don't want you to quit if you're town and you know i grill things that don't make sense and that's never changed. | ||
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On June 25 2015 07:31 Holyflare wrote: this list contains most 4 mafia, if you are the town you need to step it up and make the game super simple If you're town in this list the game should be very easy | ||
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On June 28 2015 00:13 Damdred wrote: Obviously it was a rant at a few things and not directed at you specifically, mostly the pming thing was directed at shockey as he is inferring I'm crummy sine I won't five, my d3 excuse in thread. But if we go with just recent history on games and ignore the other games yes rs was wrong. If you ignore my past and just look at recent stuff I town hunt a lot. I mean d1 I'd mostly that. With odd defenses at the same time to. You also have scum reads though dude :/ I'm not saying that one instance of a lot of town reads make you scummy but in combination with ONLY town reading and ONLY defending when having not read the thread it looks pretty mafia motivated to me. | ||
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