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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 05 2015 20:06 GMT
#61
/confirm
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 05 2015 20:09 GMT
#62
On June 06 2015 04:52 Kickstart wrote:
/confirm

Also HoN is heroes of newerth, an old dota clone. It still has players but most people I know moved from it to dota2.


Dota 2 > HoN

I'm biased.

*runs*
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 05 2015 20:11 GMT
#63
On June 06 2015 04:45 Kickstart wrote:
Also, because im fucking terrible with timezone shit, eod and eon are approx 75 mins from now right?


Correct. EoD/EoN is 1700 EDT/1400 PDT.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
June 05 2015 20:23 GMT
#64
/chicken

Heroes of the storm is worth trying tbh
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
June 05 2015 20:23 GMT
#65
Ebwop: Damn Swype text op. /confirm
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 05 2015 20:24 GMT
#66
I'm got kind of burned out on mobas before dota2/LoL/heroes came out. Maybe I should try again. I had a lot of fun with dota and hon.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 05 2015 20:41 GMT
#67
Well, I also am biased and like dota2 most. To be fair, I have played 'most' "mobas" (my bias shows since I just call them dota clones :D). I disagree with heroes of the storm being worth trying, especially for someone like ensis cause he is tryhard and hots is so casual it hurts.

Also, pm me if u plai dota2, I need more friends!!!!!!! (to carry me :o).
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 05 2015 20:42 GMT
#68
and lol @ /chicken
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 20:57:59
June 05 2015 20:57 GMT
#69
On June 06 2015 05:41 Kickstart wrote:
Well, I also am biased and like dota2 most. To be fair, I have played 'most' "mobas" (my bias shows since I just call them dota clones :D). I disagree with heroes of the storm being worth trying, especially for someone like ensis cause he is tryhard and hots is so casual it hurts.

Also, pm me if u plai dota2, I need more friends!!!!!!! (to carry me :o).


You have a PM incoming. I'm EU but there are loads of NA players who play and I do play with a some of the NAers either late night or weekends. Both sides of the pond all are laid back, no one cares about MMR. Dota is better when you play with friends, win or lose.

EDIT: PM sent.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 05 2015 21:00 GMT
#70
Bats you need to play with the TLers. Yamato, Onegu are both on often. I can play US East pretty easily.
Need to get some 5 stacks going down again...
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 21:02:59
June 05 2015 21:02 GMT
#71
LoL, HoN, Dota2 and Dota are all basically identical. I'm always amazed at the people who have long arguments about the differences between them. There are like tiny differences like an extra boss monster in LoL, or the runes spawning differently, or powerups coming from creep camps, but basically it's the same maps, the same system, the same concepts. A decent League player can basically spend about an hour reading a couple guides and pick up HoN or DotA2 and crush it with no difficulty, and vice versa. Any time someone has some really strong opinion about one of these games being objectively better (barring things like noting that League's UI is cleaner, or Dota2 has smaller models, or has denies which they like or something) or substantially different I lose respect for them.

HotS is significantly different because of the way hero progression/exp works, the lack of items, and the different map. HotS is more of an arena-battler than a AOSC (Aeon of Strife Clone).
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 05 2015 21:12 GMT
#72
/.confirm
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Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 05 2015 21:45 GMT
#73
On June 06 2015 06:02 Blazinghand wrote:
LoL, HoN, Dota2 and Dota are all basically identical. I'm always amazed at the people who have long arguments about the differences between them. There are like tiny differences like an extra boss monster in LoL, or the runes spawning differently, or powerups coming from creep camps, but basically it's the same maps, the same system, the same concepts. A decent League player can basically spend about an hour reading a couple guides and pick up HoN or DotA2 and crush it with no difficulty, and vice versa. Any time someone has some really strong opinion about one of these games being objectively better (barring things like noting that League's UI is cleaner, or Dota2 has smaller models, or has denies which they like or something) or substantially different I lose respect for them.

HotS is significantly different because of the way hero progression/exp works, the lack of items, and the different map. HotS is more of an arena-battler than a AOSC (Aeon of Strife Clone).


Tend to agree, I just like dota/dota2 the most. Hon was really good at the start because it was quite fast paced and exciting, but as it went on I felt it got worse. I left around the time they released OP as hell heroes to people who payed to play them when they were first released, and they almost always nerfed said heroes when it was made available to everyone. Really didn't like that. Though to be fair some of the heroes s2 released were complete ass. LoL was alright but I only played it for a very short time before I got a dota2 beta invite. At the time I just saw it as less complex than dota, but that may just be because I know more about dota/dota2 *shrug*. I didn't like HOTS at all, been ragging on Blizzard for just making casual games but hey I can't fault them for targeting the audience that will give them the most money/support. HOTS was just so annoyingly casual compared to any of the other games in the genre; no last hitting, no items, a dumbed down skill system; I didn't like it.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 05 2015 22:09 GMT
#74
/confirm
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 05 2015 22:18 GMT
#75
If scum team I really wanna just shit up the thread in religion baiting flame wars. Maybe even if not scum, but then the arguing wouldn't be helpful as town so meh.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 05 2015 22:36 GMT
#76
also yay dota
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 05 2015 22:36 GMT
#77
On June 06 2015 06:02 Blazinghand wrote:
LoL, HoN, Dota2 and Dota are all basically identical. I'm always amazed at the people who have long arguments about the differences between them. There are like tiny differences like an extra boss monster in LoL, or the runes spawning differently, or powerups coming from creep camps, but basically it's the same maps, the same system, the same concepts. A decent League player can basically spend about an hour reading a couple guides and pick up HoN or DotA2 and crush it with no difficulty, and vice versa. Any time someone has some really strong opinion about one of these games being objectively better (barring things like noting that League's UI is cleaner, or Dota2 has smaller models, or has denies which they like or something) or substantially different I lose respect for them.

HotS is significantly different because of the way hero progression/exp works, the lack of items, and the different map. HotS is more of an arena-battler than a AOSC (Aeon of Strife Clone).


I thought LoL didn't have denies. I always found last hitting/denying kind of cathartic I think I would enjoy the game less without it. And I don't really like LoL's art style. Also doesn't LoL have some kind level up system where you have to play a bunch of games to unlock different bonuses? I sort of hate the idea of that.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 05 2015 22:38 GMT
#78
On June 06 2015 07:36 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 06:02 Blazinghand wrote:
LoL, HoN, Dota2 and Dota are all basically identical. I'm always amazed at the people who have long arguments about the differences between them. There are like tiny differences like an extra boss monster in LoL, or the runes spawning differently, or powerups coming from creep camps, but basically it's the same maps, the same system, the same concepts. A decent League player can basically spend about an hour reading a couple guides and pick up HoN or DotA2 and crush it with no difficulty, and vice versa. Any time someone has some really strong opinion about one of these games being objectively better (barring things like noting that League's UI is cleaner, or Dota2 has smaller models, or has denies which they like or something) or substantially different I lose respect for them.

HotS is significantly different because of the way hero progression/exp works, the lack of items, and the different map. HotS is more of an arena-battler than a AOSC (Aeon of Strife Clone).


I thought LoL didn't have denies. I always found last hitting/denying kind of cathartic I think I would enjoy the game less without it. And I don't really like LoL's art style. Also doesn't LoL have some kind level up system where you have to play a bunch of games to unlock different bonuses? I sort of hate the idea of that.

Yeh those are basically my main issue. The leveling up thing is minor but it is still an advantage no matter how you argue it. Also the whole not having all the heroes (or champions as they are called there) available is another thing I don't like. You either pay for them or have to grind out games to get them with game currency.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 05 2015 22:41 GMT
#79
I also think laning in general is more complex in dota, and I like that as any role if you are good enough you can just shit on the opposing lane if they are worse, dunno if that is true to the same extent in LoL because you really have no control over the lane dynamic other than what heroes you take to it.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 06 2015 00:55 GMT
#80
I finally got my chen challenge and my get a rax under 25 min challenge in same game

feels good man
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