[M][N]Holy Guardians Chapter 1

On June 04 2015 04:10 ritoky wrote:
1gu have you claimed VT yet this game?

On June 04 2015 01:50 Fidei86 wrote:
Damdred - I think our posts might have crossed?

On June 04 2015 06:46 Damdred wrote:
i'm not even going to read posts until I say this, how in the fuck can anyone in this game say that I don't have opinions stated?

I have literally given at least 3 town reads up to this point, have voiced opinions why 2 people are scummy and have stated why idon't like posts many times.

This is total shit.

On June 04 2015 05:14 Kickstart wrote:


Well me OMGUSing everything is a stretch. I went on milo and sl before they even mentioned me, and my read on GGT is the same with or without him directing anything at me. I am generally of the opinion that town reads aren't of much use D1, but I was pressured to name some earlier and I named yourself and VE, for basically the same reasons. I felt that you were both applying pressure when needed, you were both driving discussion, and both were being open and honest with your thoughts - all of which I think is helpful and thus I feel that you have been helpful for town up to this point. Does that mean I think you are both 100% town? No, but I feel confident in saying that I would not vote on either of you this cycle. To be honest the only other person I feel is slightly town atm is Nydus, but definitely not on the same level as you two. I have real issues with almost everyone else who I havent mentioned because I just feel their posts are void of strong feelings and I don't like that style of play. Namely I feel like Damdred, scott, Onegu, and Fideu (just off the top of my head) are not giving us anything to work with, their posts are void of reads and strong opinions, and while Damdred has asked a lot of questions and put a bit of pressure on at times, he is still guilty of not giving us his thoughts (though he said this is how he plays and that he will wait to make a stronger case when he is ready - which I intend to hold him too, if Day 1 ends and he is still guilty of what I outlined above I will have some real questions about him because he has been active enough and seems experiences and good enough to give some solid reads but has yet to do so). I think scott and fideu are new so I can understand the reluctance to stick their necks out on anything but I don't feel that is a real excuse, they still need to share their thoughts on things. Onegu seems to have arrived late on the scene but already his posting style is suspicious to me, much too much joking around; while this is normal and understandable at the start of the game, I feel like there is plenty of content to actually address, which he has not done. Can anyone tell me if this is normal posting from Onegu?

On June 04 2015 08:00 ritoky wrote:
it's official. #3rdtrimester has begun....bought a crib today instead of a new video card...getting older blows.

On June 04 2015 08:17 ritoky wrote:
i have no idea why i did this, but i google image searched onegu and this was a top tier image:



on a related note, 1gu, i need you to tell me something. who's filter should i be reading RIGHT NOW?

On June 04 2015 08:59 Fidei86 wrote:
Okay, so a lot of people have come out and said that they think what I'm saying is devoid of content. With that in mind, I've gone back over all the pages of the game and put together the below. Apologies for the wall of text, but I put it together as I was reading through, so it's going to be a bit stream-of-consciousness-y.

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@Kickstart - You said on your post on page 13 that you found some things scummy, but you were going to wait and see whether they changed. Can you now say what you were talking about?

@Damdred - In your post on page 14 you said that ritoky shouldn't be lynched and that you would "revisit him during the night to make sure". Am I missing a rule here, or did you just come out as the cop? Is it possible that there is even a cop, since Onegu has claimed VT (I assume that's veteran?)?

@Ritoky - You asked me a question on page 15 which I missed, I think. I got a poor read from your initial posts. My (admittedly newbie) view is that a mafia member wouldn't paint themselves all over the first two pages of a thread, especially with things as banal as you did. However, the obvious "next-level" play is to do it as mafia, relying upon everyone thinking that it would be far too weird a play for a non-mafia to make. One thing that struck me was that Kickstart changed his view on you when he said your posting style had improved, even though it hadn't by that point. That was strange to me. You were still posting gifs and one-liners, and I don't think you had really contributed anything of merit. It's not a lot to go on, but it all strikes me as a possible attempt for you to get yourself established as the harmless town clown, which naturally sucks all of the venom out of your accusers. Then again, later on I've already said earlier in the thread that Kickstarter's opening post was not to my taste. If I had to say, I'd say I have you both as slight-mafia reads. As to your question about VE and Chocolate, I think I answered that later. Sorry for not spotting your question until now.

@Onegu - Can you explain to me why you would claim the special town role (VT) so early on? Doesn't that just make you an easy take-out for the mafia, since nobody (except Damdred?) has counter-claimed you?

Having seen more of milo's posts, I'm leaning back towards null. We honestly didn't have that much to go on at the start, and I think his reference to being okay with lynching was probably just a slip. His recent posts strike me as the most genuinely typed things (ie don't read as being written with an agenda).

I've made a list of all of the positive and negative things that people have said so far, and the person I come out most closely aligned to is Nydus, which I guess would make him my biggest town read. Specifically, Nydus has voiced suspicions on Kickstart and ritoky, which I share. He has also been suspicious of Damdred, and I have to agree with that. Whereas Kickstarter is coming across more as a traffic cop, I think Damdred seems too keen to infuse his posts with a sense of "I am town, no arguing", which seems off to me. VE's posts have the same tone to me. When Damdred got pushed on page 28, he reacted very viciously ("this is shit!"), which doesn't read to me as frustration (which a townie would have), but more like faux-righteous anger (which is more scummy). I also, as I stated before, generally agree with Chocolate as well, which puts him more towards town for me.

However, after all of that, I see on page 27 that Kickstarter has the same view of Nydus as me, and also seems similarly critical of Damdred. So now I'm not sure what to believe.

On June 06 2015 10:52 Tictock wrote:


I... dont even... Trying to read that is hard enough, I'm not spending any thought making sense of it.

However, if Milo is no longer town yet Milo is still a type of chocolate where Onegu is from, then Chocolate is also not town.

Thus by Onegu logic Choco is scum.

Ok seriously now...
I'd like to lynch choco today like we should have done yesterday.

##Vote: Chocolate

On June 06 2015 10:58 Damdred wrote:
Why did both of you suddenly drop your scum reads on damdred?

tick built a case on me and oneg was so sure I was scum he single voted on me.

Neither of you are pushing me now when... Nothing had happened

On June 06 2015 10:58 Tictock wrote:


Your logic or the Chezniu stuff? I feel like the chezniu stuff is so arbitrary and doesn't take into account the variety of responses to a "Chezniu". Like I mentioned earlier, I tend to respond to trolly nonsense, with trolly nonsense. Whats the rule on that?

On June 06 2015 17:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
tl;dr

GGTemplar
Meta - Temp would read me early. "Couldn't", in spite of ritoky thinking I was pretty obviously town.
Behavior - Has over-justified his early reads imo, and has attempted to remain consistent with his previous reads rather than reevaluate the game. OMGUS on me reeks of desperation.

Doubts - He wasn't voting EoD, risking modkill.
My Bias/Hypocricy - I still think Chocolate is mafia, and Chocolate was the other wagon yesterday.

On June 06 2015 19:38 VisceraEyes wrote:

How about lynch Temp with me today and I swear I'll take a good hard look at S-word regardless of the outcome of the Temp lynch? I'm REALLY sure about Templar, and my case is really good.

On June 06 2015 20:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Also Damdred continues to look better than Onegu at this rate.

On June 06 2015 21:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


I should say 'RE-point' it out because I already did it once. VE just is practicing selective reading right now and Onegu is doing who the hell knows what.

On June 07 2015 14:11 Shendelzare wrote:
Well well, look who's here. I hope you aren't baked. Because I have a question or two to throw your way.

On June 07 2015 14:14 Shendelzare wrote:
Selective reasoning much? I read your games to see whether you posted the way you did all the time or whether it was alignment indicative.

On with the questions though.

First you put three of us on a list - Damdred, Templar and myself. You are scumreading us because we at some point have scumread you (correct?)

So tell me why you are leaving Chocolate off that list. He is criticizing everyone for giving you a free pass.

Why are you using that reasoning to scumread us when you are completely ignoring that for him?

Never mind how shit his play was for day one.

That's my first inquiry.

On June 05 2015 05:59 Chocolate wrote:
ok well in case I do die let me write some shit now

Onegu and SL need to contribute more (though I do see why SL isn't posting much) and if they don't then don't give a free pass because "meta lol"

VE and KS seem the most scummy to me, TT too maybe, Fidei or milo may be trying to pocket me so don't clear them upon my death

Onegu seems to have arrived late on the scene but already his posting style is suspicious to me, much too much joking around; while this is normal and understandable at the start of the game, I feel like there is plenty of content to actually address, which he has not done. Can anyone tell me if this is normal posting from Onegu?"
verbal diarrhea which confused me

Onegu has pretty much been a shitposter so far which I don't like and don't think is good for town

On June 04 2015 04:15 Onegu wrote:
So here we go.

In Thailand Milo is Chocolate powder. So that means Chocolate and Milo must be on the same team. Since chocolate is so tasty they must both be town.

On June 06 2015 04:31 Shendelzare wrote:
Alright, took more looking at Onegu's filter. Is he trolling or just posting just to post?

Chocolate and Milo being on the same team? really?

Calling Fidei as either blue or scum - why? And why out another blue as town? That really makes no sense when I see no other reason to scumread Fidei from his point of view?

He scumreads VE early on but votes Damdred? That is a jump in logic to me.

Onegu is probably scum.

Moving on to other people...

On June 07 2015 14:28 Shendelzare wrote:
Chocolate has not explicitly said "policy" or "scum" lynch either way so I could not tell.



Also I think that was a quote that Choclate used to respond to KS, that was KS's opinion on you I thought, not Chocolates.

On June 07 2015 14:37 Shendelzare wrote:
Okay, now that is making a little more sense why you don't like Damdred, fine. But what do you think of him after the lynch? He posted some large case or something. Or do you just look at people how they view you and ignore everything else?

On June 07 2015 21:21 NydusHerMain wrote:


Not good enough for an onegu town read at all... I still see him scummy.

P.S. I'm leaving in about 4 hours and I don't know when I'll be back. I'll make votes and small comments on my phone if I can but I might not be here for EoD.

On June 07 2015 21:39 NydusHerMain wrote:


The nydus rule just dictates that you're scummy.

On June 07 2015 21:45 Tictock wrote:




Don't throw your vote away again today please...

If you want to push Dam, you can put together something tomorrow...

I'm assuming you don't have anything other than him breaking your rule today.

On June 06 2015 15:08 Onegu wrote:



First my rule is different then the Chezniu rule. But it comes down to close to the same thing. I have caught scum using the onegu rule. The chez rule has caught many more scum. I am serious here. People wanting to lynch me today have a much higher chance to flip scum.

I am not trolling here this is a legit strat.

Damdred back me up here plz.

Also there is a diffenece in wanting to lynch me for policy early like scott who I think is town. And actually saying I am scum and wanting to lynch me.

Also if you look at Shendelzare and the games he said he looked up on me, I didnt troll half as much in those games. So how can he draw any conclusions from those games I ask you.

On June 07 2015 14:10 Onegu wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +


Damdred writes this in his big post. This is after I voted him for no reason. Like if you read my post it just says reasons. Like when ritoky asked me for a filter to read I wrote I rng'd damdred. How does he think I was pushing his lynch at all. Then the only reason he scum reads me is because I didnt push his lynch but voted him. He knows I do this shit all the time. Damdreds reason for scum reading me is complete BS.

S word Dude says he read my previous games and somehow came to some conclusions about them that relates to this game and that I am scum this game. Nope not possible with the games he said he read.

The onegu rule isnt arbitrary. Basicly I play bad and troll for day one. Then on day 2 see who wants to lynch me and why. If people want to policy lynch me then they are likely town. But if they are saying I am scummy for trolling for bad reasons then they are scum pushing a mislynch for shit reasons.

People are trying to shit on the onegu rule, but the people doing so are the scummy ones so dont listen to them listen to me. I already told you I am the best player in this game.

I wasnt lying when I said if I rolled scum that this game would already be over. The fact is if I am getting pushed for lynch in the first 3 days then guess what I am town with scum trying to mislynch me because they know the longer the game goes on the better my reads get. Like GoT mafia where scum couldnt get my mislynched and I won the game in lylo. Thanks HF for catching the rest of the team.

On June 07 2015 21:56 Tictock wrote:


I thought it was ok, according to the Onegu rule, to want to Policy Lynch you or lynch you in later days?

You know what, no I'm done with these rules for now. Give me something a little more solid and we'll talk tomorrow...

On June 07 2015 23:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
onegu can die too

On June 07 2015 23:47 Damdred wrote:
Anyway I won't sit here and argue about your suck team.

Tick has been towny, 've has vommited town all game. I'm town lead lynch d1.

You aren't trying to 're evaluate anything

On June 08 2015 02:10 Fidei86 wrote:
Onegu, could I ask what else you think about Damdred, other than your Onegu rule thing?

On June 08 2015 05:18 Chocolate wrote:
Actually I don't think Shen is mafia for this reason

If I were scum I'd never be as inactive as SL was the first day, even if I were about to get replaced
Shen being very active today tells me more that he is trying to do town more of a service than dispel the read people were getting on sl

He was also pushed moderately day1 before and after I brought it up which I don't have a good reason to feel suspicious but strikes me as fishy (though I do recognize that I was part of that crowd)

On May 29 2015 13:19 Onegu wrote:
Im going full OMGUS at this point. IF you are currently scum reading me I am scum reading you.

FF
Rsoul
NB

On June 08 2015 16:41 Fidei86 wrote:
@Onegu Honest question - if you were looking at your own posts objectively, what conclusion would you draw? Because the nagging feeling I get, particularly because I see you are running your own game elsewhere, is that you rolled mafia but perhaps didn't care that much, or had other things going on, or maybe just have played enough games that you're a bit jaded, and just thought "I'll keep trolling as hard as I can for as long as I can and see if they still won't lynch me". I know that you've stopped with the uber-troll now, but you're still only talking about this 'Onegu' rule, which I understand is a knock-off of the Chezinu rule? But it seems like a bunch of people in the thread already knew about that, which means that if they were scum, they wouldn't fall for it.

The issue I have with your entire approach to this game is that it's now too late for policy lynches. After the NK we're down to what, 6 town and 3 mafia? At some point - and you can see it already - the mafia team (if you aren't mafia) are going to start laying the ground work for a "lynch all lurkers" wagon, which townies, frustrated with all the MLs and the general sense of confusion in the thread, are going to jump on. Hell, I already feel like jumping on it now despite having literally just given my reasons for why it would be a bad idea.

So basically, all of the above is a plea - please, PLEASE, start taking this game more seriously and give us some actual reads and non-troll thoughts. Otherwise, if you're town, you're throwing the game. Obviously if you're actually mafia, then you're clearly one step ahead of the meta.

On June 08 2015 17:34 Tictock wrote:
@ Onegu

I'm just wondering, you listed 3 players who broke your rule.

Damdred
Shen
Nydus

Why is all your focus on Damdred?

On June 09 2015 17:22 Tictock wrote:
@ Onegu

Your still that sure of your rule?

Shen broke it as town...

On June 10 2015 18:30 Tictock wrote:
Bit disappointing that I napped for ~6hrs to get up and watch GSL yet nothing has happened in game...



Holding you to that Onegu. This game is a bit weird and def not easy, we need every towny we got to help weigh in.

On that note, I'm still pretty sure VE is town, but I'll be pretty angry with him if he doesn't do anything else today...

Gunna do some reading in Shen's filter just to see what her thinking was and then I think Scott is the last filter I still need to read. Starting to loose some steam myself so will do more summary and not as many quotes, maybe...

On June 10 2015 22:25 Fidei86 wrote:
I think you could plausibly swap out scott for Onegu in my theory, since Onegu has essentially contributed nothing to this game and has, in my view, thrown it to the mafia. I don't think he's mafia, but there's literally no point trying to give him a sensible read, because he hasn't contributed enough to make any such read worthwhile.

On June 11 2015 01:55 Fidei86 wrote:
@Onegu - I don't want to lynch you, I'm saying we *can't* lynch you. Nobody has a read on you at all, which makes lynching you a complete roll of the dice. What I'm upset about is that your totally failure to contribute anything useful at all means that we're in this dire situation where we can't lynch you but you could easily be lurk-y mafia.

On June 11 2015 02:01 scott31337 wrote:
How about at least a baby case Onegu on Damdred?

On June 11 2015 19:08 scott31337 wrote:
I mean TH

On June 11 2015 19:13 scott31337 wrote:
It's got to have a vet in there that's why Ritoky died - You can WIFOM all you want

On June 11 2015 22:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm down with lynching NydusHerMain next.

On June 11 2015 22:48 VisceraEyes wrote:

Is this still based on the Onegu Rule thing? Or have you advanced your read?


I don't want to filter you, but if you say you said why already I'll go look.

On June 11 2015 22:54 VisceraEyes wrote:

Like this just feels to me like you're trying to dissuade me from voting NHM and to vote Damdred. Which is fine I guess, but I have bias against voting for Damdred because he's one of the only people who still thinks I'm town, plus his activity has been better than I expect from a mafia Damdred.

Uuuuuggghhhh.

On June 12 2015 00:32 milo109 wrote:



This is inviting mafia to get a mislynch by choosing the world they aren't in, killing the person that indicates it.

On June 12 2015 07:40 Damdred wrote:
Firstly how can you say that he had any form of read on me when he just rngd me basically? He randomly selected who to vote on and has just stuck with that the entire game.

On June 03 2015 08:49 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky, Ritoky what is your read on me so I can just ask until,I break out who we are lynching today

On June 03 2015 10:57 Damdred wrote:
Ummmm idk if you know this or not but most wagons up to hour 12 in the cycle (12 hours left before end of day) generally don't get lynched.

Most serious cases are presented and pushed at that point when more information is I'm thread generally.

If you disagree with how I approach early game that's fine but I generally don't put weakass scum reads in the thread lol

On June 03 2015 11:02 Damdred wrote:
Don't discount my ultimate ritoky read now.

Who knows I'll figure out who I think is s um when I'm on a comp. Scotts up ij scum, you are slightly above scum undecided.

On June 03 2015 15:11 Damdred wrote:


Why?



Whats the point of this? You don't really seem to do anything with this or push your policy lynch. Why is it even a policy vote when you seem to feel like he has done something scummy? After you post this theres one more post that is closely behind but you don't interact with ticktock nor do you push the idea instead you mark other posts and don't really explain anything?

Your posts lack any form of concrete reasoning or thought and lack real thought process it seems. I don't think I like them

On June 05 2015 02:25 Damdred wrote:
If we policy lynch id rather lynch SL than oneg though because oneg has tl family things

On June 05 2015 05:39 Damdred wrote:
Scott, do you think I'm town.

Why don't you feel a ks lynch

Onegu is another one of those players I can't read well currently. Hes just another policy lynch until he does more things, he can not post much as either alignment but seems to care more as scum but also is more lurky as scum. Sooo just need more time with him.

On June 06 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Idk the SL vote looks the best to me I think at this stage because of how long he was gone from the thread before being replaced. It was before any wagons really formed at that juncture.

Onegs looks bad, nydus looks bad as well.

Oneg... I think is town I didn't even know about the onegu rule I don't think it holds weight like the chez rule though. Anyway.

On June 09 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
I still don't see how its pussy footing around.

If you look at the first pages of almost everyones filter you will see mostly soft reads due to the non information that has started in games.

My biggest read was Ritoky early. I have a way to 100% read ritoky most of the time tbh. So I held back to make sure I was right and gave it. I also had good feelings about several other people.

People give town reads early as hunting into your non town reads is just as good as hunting into scummy people for others. Its just a preference.

Just don't get why so many people are trying to scum read me for it however.

On June 12 2015 05:16 Damdred wrote:
This is the most useless I've ever seen you oneg so maybe you are scum idk, it would fit.

On June 13 2015 22:33 Damdred wrote:
I talk to rit like that a lot, he talks to me like that. Its just how we are doesn't make me scum.

How have I followed thread sentiment again? Because I havent

On June 13 2015 22:33 Damdred wrote:
I talk to rit like that a lot, he talks to me like that. Its just how we are doesn't make me scum.

How have I followed thread sentiment again? Because I havent

On June 13 2015 23:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
NHM and Onegu are borderline AFKing on Damdred. EBWOP

On June 14 2015 00:27 Damdred wrote:


Not true, you've afkd a lot as mafia lately

On June 14 2015 00:27 Damdred wrote:


Not true, you've afkd a lot as mafia lately

On June 14 2015 01:00 Damdred wrote:
Yeah your bad as all alignments. And just flailing now, you actually don't have anything that makes me scum.

Ok so here is the deal. I am the best player in this game. Yeah Damdred/VE are good, but no where near as awesome as me. So you guys are lucky I didnt roll scum or this game would be already over. Scum is lucky I didnt roll blue or this game would also already be over.

On June 14 2015 03:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's real easy. Onegu tries as Mafia. He's in here trying. The prosecution rests.

On June 14 2015 03:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm town. Are you and Scott both mafia?

On June 14 2015 03:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like your read hadn't developed since day one, the day you supposedly ONLY try on as mafia.

On June 14 2015 03:40 Damdred wrote:
How did I only follow thread sentiment again?

On June 14 2015 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
What are the actual reasons people want to lynch Damdred? Onegu if you can explain without referencing the rule then you are welcome to answer too.

On June 14 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
Now this is interesting why is oneg voting with scum read damdred

On June 14 2015 15:09 Tictock wrote:
@ Onegu

Who are you reading as scum now?



I don't understand this post. You've been so sure on your rule all game, even when Shen flipped town you claimed Damdred was complete scum based on your rule... Now that it's actually caught someone why are you doubting it?

Also since Nydus was also a violator on your rule, why did it take you so long to switch your vote to him?

I'm having an even harder time following your thinking through EoD than I have this whole game... Expect if I imagine you as Scum pushing your teammate in a last ditch effort for towncred...

On June 14 2015 16:39 scott31337 wrote:
It would be hilarious if they shoot me because I'm right and try to go after Onegu.

On June 15 2015 07:52 milo109 wrote:

......

On June 16 2015 00:50 milo109 wrote:

Town could also... freaking.. switch. That's the point of a separate voting thread. If that's the only argument for you being town... it sucks.

On June 16 2015 00:52 milo109 wrote:
That obviously scared you.

On June 16 2015 01:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
You did. Onto a teammate. Like a fool.

On June 16 2015 06:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ganges = games. You can't post the way you posted most of the game and expect to be listened to or even taken seriously end game.

On June 16 2015 06:20 VisceraEyes wrote:

Frankly as town I would elect you to bullheadedly stay on your target (Damdred) and scream at US about consolidation.

On June 16 2015 09:41 milo109 wrote:
No. There is no way as town that you don't change the lynch to someone voting on you. That's what truly proves you're scum. You might have been able to mislynch me, but that was the correct play.

On June 16 2015 09:57 milo109 wrote:
I am not losing this game.

On June 16 2015 09:56 milo109 wrote:

If you're town, you know that out of the four votes, one has to be mafia. More likely, it's two or three. So the odds of you hitting someone who is voting on you versus voting with you is much higher. And why NMH and not Onegu? He instantly with no hesitation picked NMH after Damdred vetoed Ticktock. A prearranged bus.

Honestly, I know you guys don't believe what you're saying but this is the world you have to push. I am proven not mafia with Chocolate, so my unvote makes no sense from a scum point of view. And then, right after Ritoky calls me -inno child- he dies. Like if I was scum I would kill someone who would never vote to lynch me.

On June 16 2015 10:59 milo109 wrote:


The fact he compromised when the game was at stake is insane, unless he knew that it wasn't a risk.

On June 16 2015 19:53 milo109 wrote:
When Damdred vetoed Ticktock, Scott should have at least fought him a little instead of going down the path of least resistance.

On June 16 2015 21:13 milo109 wrote:
Honestly. How perfect information is that post? Pretty perfect.

On June 12 2015 13:19 scott31337 wrote:
Tictock, so I just checked NYM's filter and he interacts extremely little with you, even though you have one of the biggest filters. What do you think about that and NYM?

VE I think it's off. We just have to keep the votes consistent - all the townies need to vote one person anyway.

I just am seeing Tictock and Damdred going after me now which from a town perspective seems strange - but from mafia they are like "Welp he's the lowest fruit now, let's GG it out!"

## Tictock/Damdred/NHM maybe?

Who do you want to lynch today?

On June 16 2015 21:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like how are you so sure it isn't scott Onegu? Why are YOU certain that he didn't bus his teammate? Personally it's the thing that's the most likely to me, and whether you think it's likely or not if you are town there's a chance given 2 people were AFK and we ended up lynching mafia ON A DAY WHEN ALL THE TOWN HAD TO VOTE TOGETHER....it doesn't strike you as even a little bit odd that we ended up lynching mafia with 2 AFK's on a day that all town had to vote together?

Further, Nydus was here - like you can say he was AFK until the vote switch, but when the vote switch DID happen, he was HERE to comment on it - that doesn't smack of premeditated to you Onegu?

But it doesn't - you're not seeing any of this because you're on the team that tried to perpetrate it. I won't let you get away with it.

On June 16 2015 21:53 milo109 wrote:
And why would NMH switch his vote like that unless he was with Scott/Onegu. There was no way one of you guys was going to switch back, and all it did was implicate Ticktock/me.

On June 16 2015 22:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
False - if you and scott are scum then me and Damdred were watching the thread like hawks for a vote-switch. It's not hard, you just keep f5 with a copy/paste of your revote and if it changes you switch it. EZPZ.

On June 16 2015 22:08 milo109 wrote:
That's not how it works Onegu. First of all, there was a pause between the day ending and Glowingbear posting the deadline. It would have been impossible to calculate that deadline perfectly.

On June 16 2015 22:10 VisceraEyes wrote:

But you're actually wrong - I was literally f5ing the vote thread the whole time LITERALLY WATCHING for a vote-switch. I CAN ASSURE you that you wouldn't have gotten it through.

On June 16 2015 22:10 milo109 wrote:
Then why did GlowingBear post deadline?

On June 16 2015 22:12 milo109 wrote:
Alright this is pointless. Make an actual case instead of relying on your supposed ability to copy and paste to win this game for you. I'm out for now.

On June 18 2015 04:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I will not let it go. I will hold this loss close to my heart for generations. It will serve as a reminder.