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On May 22 2015 12:54 rsoultin wrote: lol leaning town on va, too, though there may be some bias involved xP gonna hold off on sandy till i double-check the geript meta...can you elaborate on why you think the read may be contrived, bunnies? I'm unsure what you mean by this question rsoul. Can you explain a little bit more. @Geript, Okay, I actually like your post on Sand there. Though I'm unsure of the meta you are using. Curious though, why all the yelling. I mean i've seen you go ham in previous games, but not like this. How sure ar eyou on Sand being mafia? | ||
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On May 22 2015 22:31 rsoultin wrote: lol apparently not enough to actually vote him xP bueno the bolded portion implies that you think he may be making up his read on geript? do you have a specific reason to think that or is it just paranoia? It's mostly just paranoia and me viewing him as mafia. So as him being mafia, I can see why he would push pressure off of him and onto someone else. He was getting pressure for not having reads, then BAM. Just comes out with reads right after this pressure on him. I also just dont know how to read this now, because geript is pushing equally as much onto Sand. I feel like this is going to be a mexican standoff. Like if one gets lynched as town, we lynch the other. lol | ||
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On May 22 2015 23:04 sandroba wrote: I feel like you got this idea and now are biased. Why am I even mafia in the first place? You seem biased towards this idea and are not looking at the actual information. The fact that I said I had 0 town reads at one point should points towards town if anything. As mafia I'm pretty confortable giving random town reads for flimsy reasons or just not saying that I don't have town reads in the first place. Again, I don't know your meta. Nor how you play as mafia, though this jsut feels mafia to me. having 0 town reads is not townie. It shows you aren't even trying to figure out the game. It's not biases, it's accusations. It's reasons why I think you are mafia. I laid out several times as to why I think you are mafia. | ||
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On May 23 2015 04:04 ritoky wrote: I really really don't like this bolded part: seems like pre-emptively trying to push thread direction. Sorry, I guess I didn't explain this very well.. From the interactions between both Geript and Sand that I have seen, I believe there is one mafia between the two. I don't see them going so hard on each other being both town. Therefore, if one is town, more than likely the other is mafia. So yes, pre-emptively pushing thread direction in the direction I believe will get us a mafia. | ||
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I'll get to all of your questions shortly. Just got off of work. | ||
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Yes, there are a lot of holes in the sand read, but I don't post everything I think at the time. It's alll a jumbled mess in my head that I try and get on paper. Sand read- Mafia Why- Comes into thread complaining, has no town reads, when I call sand out on said reads and put pressure on Sand for not having any reads, Sand comes out with case on Geript. This seemed to me like Sand was putting pressure on someone else on because I was pushing pressure on him for no having reads. Geript Read- Possible Mafia Why- The initial reason why I called Geript mafia is for his read saying that I used two different entrances in two different games I am currently playing. While I think that this isn't alignment indicative, apparently Geript did so. I questioned and made a comment on it, geript (and someone else) calling it me being defensive, but I thought it was a genuine reaction. The reason why I switched Geript to neutral, maybe town, was because his read on Sand aligned with mine, I also liked the read he gave on Damdred and Rsoul. I know I'm town, and if he is thinking along the lines I am, he could possibly be town. But I didn't call him out right town. The 1maf/1town read- Usually in video mafia when people go against each other like Geript and Sand are, one is mafia one is town. I rarely see two town fighting as such. So yeah, they could both be town prp, but to me this seems highly unlikely. Like they are only focusing on each other, and not really looking outside of each other. It just seems very weird, so that is where my mind is at.. Other Reads HF-Town FF- Town Rsoul- neutral- seems like mostly filler stuff. Idk the meta here or why people are reading as town. Fuba- expected more out of, but would put neutral Mafia- Ritoky is leaning mafia for me, Onegu- I actually really like onegu. Not necessarily the best cases he has presented, but I think everything he has done comes from a townie perspective. | ||
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On May 23 2015 07:48 geript wrote: See even NB is getting into it. She seems to want to give Rsoul a penis. Kinky. Is rsoul a girl? | ||
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On May 23 2015 07:51 prplhz wrote: @27ninjabunnies Please expand on that Onegu read. You say it's not his best case + Show Spoiler + His entire case is: Onegu gut read? Or the fact that her Sandroba read points are bad. Who cares he doesnt have any town reads. I dont either. Doesnt make me scum. To be honest, I thought he made a read on rsoul, but I was actually remembering a different read on rsoul from someone else. He just voted rsoul. So, I don't have an actual basis for what he has done. His filter is actually mostly filler and I'm vt. He could be town, but idk. Hasn't done anything. I'll try and find that read on rsoul that I really liked and see who it was from tho. MY b. But I do have something to say about onegu.. Why did people jump on the bw for a gut read? That's curious to me. Like I don't care I'm being voted. But, why jump on the bw? Sand did it. You made atleast a case on me, I guess. | ||
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On May 23 2015 08:02 prplhz wrote: sandroba wrote a short case on you. What rsoultin read from who else did you think was made by Onegu? I want to see the case that could make you go from "He could be town but idk. Hasn't done anything." to "I really like Onegu". If im not mistaken, i went from i really like onegu to the opposite way... I'm looking for the read now. Im thinking it might be the geript read on rsoul, but that doesnt stick out to me. @Ritoky- you just mad cause i called you mafia  | ||
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On May 23 2015 08:05 prplhz wrote: You also seem to have a neutral read on rsoultin which is weird if someone wrote a case on her that you liked so much. The read was town if im not mistaken, based on meta. But I commented that I didn't know the meta. that much i remember. But it seemed like a good read at the time I was reading it. | ||
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On May 23 2015 07:53 ritoky wrote: bunnies keeping that incorrect read streak alive. I don't like your reads in the slightest. you don't acknowledge any of sandroba's points and why they are correct or incorrect, your little bit is mostly just conjecture and heuristics and tone. and you've never even touched on the really good point he made about geript trying to double dip on his read on you. how he implied it was sarcastic and fake yet wanted credit for it being real. you then spend more time and effort devoted to geript who isn't your scum read, and the majority of it doesn't feel like it is much about geript but a defense of yourself. you call it weird and say it is unlikely that they are both town, but I don't see a good justification as to why. you give town reads on FF and HF, maybe 1 of which deserves it. then you neutral and scum read the 2 largest filters in the game who did the most pushing early game. then you mention fuba and onegu....why fuba? why not VA, prp, etc. onegu a bit more understandable cuz you actually have a read. but why the hell fuba? you spewing him town? DO NOT LIKE You know you could just ask me what my reads are or further explain reads instead of going ham. I'd be more than happy to give them to you. I'm not sure which of sands points you are talking about. I havent even fully read through sands filter, just ping out the things i notice most while reading through. Geript is a good read for me. Of course im going to comment more on something i am sure about than something im not. I gave my justification about why they are both not town. read again. Which one out of HF and FF do you think deserves a tr? I'm honestly curious. And say why. More posting does not equal town. You know this from many of my previous games as mafia. Content= town. Reconsideration and evaluation of the game=town. Not mass posting. Just cause they are pushing and posting does not make them town. Easily done as mafia. Fuba- I definitely didn't say Fuba wwas town. I said neutral, as in neutrally dont have a read either way. Dont put words in my mouth. Says in thread he has been lurking,comes back basically 24 hours later with two questions that holyflare (I think?) answered yes to only, and hasnt said much yet.... NEutral VA- haven't read anything worthwhile on commenting from VA Onegu- I gave a read in an earlier post that I admitted to that was wrong Now that I've basically discredited your entire post, Ritoky, you want to tell me how you're town, and not mafia? | ||
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On May 23 2015 08:14 prplhz wrote: Yes. 1) Onegu wrote that case. I really like Onegu. 2) Onegu didn't write that case. He could be town but idk. Hasn't done anything. I want to see the case. Because the case, if attributed to Onegu, should make you go from reading him "meh" to "pretty town". It also seems like it should be a good case to make you have respond so positively, but apparently you're not even scum reading rsoultin. Weird that you should have such a positive reaction to a case on someone you're not scum reading. Sorry, had to yell at ritoky a bit. This entire post confuses me. Onegu wrote a gut read/case on me. That was it. By case, i thought there was a read on rsoul that wa sleaning town absed on meta. That was not from onegu. IT wasnt a case, but a read. I thought i made myself clear in a previous post? | ||
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On May 23 2015 08:21 Holyflare wrote: prpl/sandro/geript/va/damd??/ritoky?? all on my badish list, question marks are in flux Can I ask why you think Prp/VA are mafia? | ||
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On May 23 2015 08:28 ritoky wrote: not really, I just think all of your reads are bad. like...every single one. I think you are bad. Like, Im sure if a cop checked you, you would be red. I'm very disappointed that you probably won't live til tomorrow to fake green me this game. Well, that's if we don't lynch Sand first.... If we do, by all means, bring the green check on. | ||
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I will neither confirm or deny I am a role. I'll let mafia figure that out for themselves. + Show Spoiler + But oh MAN if I had a gun ![[image loading]](http://www.pd4pic.com/images800_/silhouette-cartoon-bunny-easter-gun-machine.png) | ||
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On May 23 2015 08:34 Fecalfeast wrote: 27nb: you give me a dumb townread for free, what have I done that makes me town? Also, what is your read on damdred? So you're not town then? On May 22 2015 09:01 Fecalfeast wrote: I think fuba admitting to actively lurking is funny. I don't have a good read on geript like you and HF seem to but I am willing to sheep the pressure. I know it's dumb to make associative reads, especially unflipped ones, but if geript is actually mafia I'm going to be very suspicious of Holybusing. Other than that I haven't really been reading, more staring blankly at the screen an hitting refresh. On May 22 2015 10:24 Fecalfeast wrote: ... I'm not sure I like what you're doing here ritoky, you're asking me to make a snap read on you based on how you interpreted a post that I find slightly scummy? I'm not sure what you want me to say. I'm just going to look at your filter. On one hand, it feels like you're trying to force me to fumble my words or something. Like you're waiting to prey on me... On the other hand, you're actually talking about ingame stuff and trying to get reads, rather than posting gifs. Yet it's still lighthearted enough. Yeah I could read you town for now. I just don't like this interaction we've just had. These are the posts that stood out to me most when reading the forum. I find they are very townie, especially the early read on ritoky. The case you make on Damdred is actually pretty convincing, and would make me switch to him if I wasn't already on Sand. I also like this post here+ Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485712-carnaval-do-brasil-mafia?page=16#301 (felt stupid linking the entire post) But here, questions prp lurking, fuba lurking, and questions other reads as well. You're not really pushing at the beginning fo the game, but now it seems like you are actually trying to figure out the game, and that's what I like. | ||
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