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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 31 2015 09:16 GMT
#2131
@ Plots

So what evidence did you see to make you think Bats claim was false?

Him vote switching is poor evidence.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 31 2015 09:17 GMT
#2132
Also Plots

Why did you block Bara N2?

Why did you think he was Mafia?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 31 2015 09:20 GMT
#2135
If I'm the only person who cares about these questions then Town does deserve to lose, imo.

I'm not impressed by your constantly dodging that question.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 31 2015 09:22 GMT
#2138
On May 31 2015 18:20 plotspot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2015 18:16 Tictock wrote:
@ Plots

So what evidence did you see to make you think Bats claim was false?

Him vote switching is poor evidence.


No, it is just in retrospect poor evidence because Bats was cop. A misslip is good evidence otherwise.


No, you have to actually explain your thoughts.

What did plots do that made you not believe his cop claim?

What misslip?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 31 2015 09:23 GMT
#2140
On May 31 2015 18:22 plotspot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2015 18:17 Tictock wrote:
Also Plots

Why did you block Bara N2?

Why did you think he was Mafia?


I told you before, I read the game he posted where he was mafia, and I thought my read about him before was wrong.


He posted a game where he played Mafia and you thought there were similarities?

Which ones? Do go on...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 31 2015 09:24 GMT
#2141
Like why are you holding back your thoughts giving such short responses?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 31 2015 09:49 GMT
#2143
@ Plots
Ok, that seems pretty flimsy to me but we'll go with it for now.

Given that he DID flip cop, what do you think about that sequence of events now?

Who do you think is scum today?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 31 2015 18:17 GMT
#2153
@ Dis
Do you really think I'm just tunneled here? My case has nothing of value?

I feel like I'm talking to people with hands over their ears.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 31 2015 18:33 GMT
#2154
One more time I'm going to say this, There is no RB left in the game.

Bara is the only person to have said he was roleblocked, and is flashing his greencheck around to keep people from questioning him.

How is plots so good at RBing the NK targets? 2/3 is more than just luck or random chance...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 31 2015 19:00 GMT
#2155
Why I read everyone else town. Spoilerd kus I think we should be focused on the plots & Bara scum team.
+ Show Spoiler +

27nb is godawful town. She keeps saying she will read stuff but doesn't. Clearly didn't think ahead and plan to put real time into this game. I find her to be almost exactly the same as BM. Bats said it best though...
On May 30 2015 06:58 batsnacks wrote:
shes here and doesn't give a shit. Mafia would give a shit.


SL is a stubborn mule, and for how many games he likes to claim he's played.. he's still a shit mafia player. He wont look past his own ego, and is the 3rd vet this game to clearly not be reading.

Dis is trying, hes a newbie who wants to do some good this game. His filter shows that he is willing to push people he thinks are scum till it is proven otherwise.

BF very similar to Dis. Has his own ideas he wants to explore and tries to push them. Tbh I haven't filter dived him in awhile but he seems more willing to keep an open mind than most.


Anyone else notice plots and Bara haven't shown much interest in casing scum today? They can't afford to start wagons now kus they don't know who they need on their side tomorrow. That's why they started to sheep town on the votes D3 they just want to blend as much as they can now.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 31 2015 22:03 GMT
#2161
Ok, I'm certain I've solved the game and made a clear case about it.

I can't do anything about Town being full of ostriches + Show Spoiler +
Everyones head is in the sand.


Nobody has a better case, nor good reasons why they don't agree with mine. Yet you are all willing to ignore my case, interesting. I'm learning a lot this game.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
June 01 2015 03:49 GMT
#2168
@27nb

I was, but stopped when people didn't want to listen to my ideas. Clearly town prefers to have no plan, than a solid case. Oh and good luck with plots, he's a dodgy one.

I'd like to lynch mafia, so even though my case is on plots RB role being fake, I'm fine going with Bara first. Idk why people want to keep the worst Town RB in history around, but w/e.

##Unvote

##Vote: Barakos


They both have
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
June 01 2015 03:49 GMT
#2169
Ignore the last line, format fail.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
June 01 2015 11:04 GMT
#2174
Actually 27nb asks a fair question. Why am I switching my vote to Bara?

Well, you guys were probably right. I may have been focusing plots too hard. So I will make this case under the assumption that plots is Town RB.

Greenchecked, but is he GF?

So rather than tunnel him, I decided to follow his thinking. N2 plots blocked Bara becuase he thought he saw scum tendencies in his play. Having reviewed some things, I agree. I think plots backed off too early, Bara claiming the RB could easily be a ploy to keep people from guessing he is GF. Remember how he said it?

On May 28 2015 07:57 Barakos wrote:
Just saw it now... I was roleblocked. Didn't see the pm at first.


Like an hour after Day phase had started. Remember the Day started with Bats claiming cop and stating his checks.
On May 28 2015 07:04 batsnacks wrote:
Alright. I'm the cop. Barakos and 27nb are town. We're lynching sulfur today.

##vote sulfurus


Whats to stop GF!Bara from seeing his PM and seeing he got greenchecked as well? This gives him the perfect opportunity to fool not just one, but 2 blue roles, just by stating that he got RB'd. I know that in it self isn't enough to prove much, but it IS possible.

Votes


Remember Bara's votes D1 and D2? He voted Dis and then SL and gave pretty decent cases on them.
Dis + Show Spoiler +
On May 22 2015 16:49 Barakos wrote:
Morning everyone!

I'm here now and almost done to catching up.

First thoughts:

I like breschke pushing/tunneling sl, to prevent him from being lazy. Makes breschke look town in my eyes.

What I didn't like was disformations filter.
All he has done so far is posting fluff and agreeing to people but not contributing in any form, except a very weak and non-commiting push on bm for lurking.

And then there are these 2 posts:

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 08:07 disformation wrote:

Uh... so let me try this...
The italic part says a good towny is up to talk about things happening in the thread and does not be too super defensive if someone else calls him scum. He is open and active and tries to get people to talk in order to find scum.
And the other part says that he should look at all the people and be open to reconsider his reads, otherwise he might tunnel super hard.


Still super cryptic stuff. At least I had something to think about for a bit. xD


Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 09:01 disformation wrote:
Uh. Didn't realize the Mafia QT would be open since 24h either. Otherwise I would have said something about his cheap read. xD
Still not seeing a lot to lynch sicklucker though. I kinda expected him to post "lol didn't read" stuff regardless of his alignment anyway. Though he was super eager to paint himself townie:

On May 22 2015 07:22 sicklucker wrote:
disinfo you gonna correctly read me town again?


Solid town read on Tictock for now. Asking all the questions I wish I had asked. xD
I agree that BM should explain his bunnies vote, if he is as serious as he claims.


In the bolded parts, he explains what good townplay should look like, and what he would like to have done.

And that is all he does... he explains and doesn't follow up with anything, that would be good townplay... he just shows, that he knows, what town should do but does actually nothing.
But since he shows, that he knows, what good townplay looks like, he is still "looking good" and tries to give the impression, that he is town but just hasn't had the opportunity to really do stuff.

So for now my vote is on him.

##vote disformation

That was his first post this game, and he never wavered from that logic. Bit odd right?
SL + Show Spoiler +
On May 26 2015 19:39 Barakos wrote:
soo... reread the thread...

one thing i found kinda funny:

I make a post about the votes not meaning much, because it may very well have been planned to vote for unmotivated scum-scott and a few hours after disformation (my stongest scum-read at that moment) makes a huge post saying he analyzed the votes and stuff... it is almost as if you try to antagonize me, disfo..
Anyways... I doubt scum-disfo would do this, since i was the only one pushing him really hard and scum would at this point try to not draw more of my attention by actively trying to argue with me... so for now, disfo moves down from the top spot of my lynch-list.

27nb:
looks not so good. was never under my suspicion, because I felt the exchange we had about sulfurus and her reaction to the case disformation made against her.
Starts to look worse now.
I like tictocks point, about her trying to draw attention to the people voting scott by asking, if there was mafia between them and her promising a big reads-post and not delivering also looks bad.

sl:
oh god, what a mess... it is almost as if he tries to confuse everybody...
"i may or may not have a green check on barakos"
"i may be cop or doctor"
"i am vanilla town"
Like wtf this play looks bad on so many levels.
If you are vanilla town it is like the worst possible play to claim you have a green check on someone whose filter you haven't even read and you actually say, you can't read him properly... ok... he retracted in the end... i get that.
Next thing, why this play was bad as it can be: He might very well have provoked a counter-claim by the real cop/doc... this is a newbie-game after all and if there were a actual cop/doc in the game an excited newbie might have very well counterclaimed right on the spot. So him going all "i am role x/y" and then after some hours of waiting and no counterclaims saying "lol, just kidding i trolled you all, i am a plain vt." looks very much like rolehunting and hoping someone actually bites and counterclaims. Also there is this quote by him going like "masons, i know who you are, you might as well come out and claim."... next occasion he is rolehunting. but when boxerfred has a theory about a cop having a redcheck and therefor trying to start a wagon, he instantly calls him out on in. So it's ok, when he does it... but only, when he does it.

Other things I don't like about his spammy, mostly oneliner-filter:
He trys to paint himself in a towny light with the most absurd reasons, like the votecount for example.
He puts himself in the spot of a town hero by saying it was his vote and him persuading batsnacks to vote scott that finally swung the vote to lynch scott and not disformation, and when he is confronted with a reasonable arguement, that invalidates this arguement (my post that those votes may very well have been preplanned), his reaction is "lol you know, what mafia says in their qt? you are mafia!"

You are not mafia for thinking about, what mafia would do in their qt, and what might be their plans... that's a natural thing for town to do - you try to figure them out and you are paranoid about everything that isn't actually confirmed.
And this is one point where sl contradicts himself... see this quote:

Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 14:44 sicklucker wrote:
Maybe I was right about barokos and sulp pre planning their entrances how awesome would that be. Like there giving 0 critical thinking here we probably wont here from them for another 48 hours


He refers to this post:

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 17:23 sicklucker wrote:


Did you guys just plan your list posts in the qt or something


Not only does he conveniantly forget, that he was throwing dirt at me for entering the thread at the same time as rels (a confirmed town, he also threw dirt at) and not sulfurus, he is also completely fine with speculating about mafia-qts, when it fits his agenda. Only, when it is not fitting for him, he devaluates it by saying the person speculating is mafia for knowing too much about the scum-qt.
Also him disregarding the possibility of a serialkiller to devalue votes vs him again lacks critical thinking on his part and ignoring the possibility of a townaction, that negated one kp at night. the chance isn't the biggest, i will agree to that, but there is still a possibility, that something like this happened.

So to sum it up:
SLs behavior looks very anti-town to me + he has double standarts, when it comes to certain behaviours and lacks town-trades like a certain amount of paranoia and critical thinking.
I am totally fine with lynching him today.

##vote sicklucker
Here Bara gives his own ideas as to why SL could be Scum, and this vote also stays. He actually does a decent job here not just sheeping stuff I'm tunneled on SL for this day. But...What happened to this case? He totally drops it, and we've never heard about it again.

I even asked Bara why D3 he was voting Sul. He clearly stated,
On May 29 2015 20:43 Barakos wrote:
Without any role-stuff I would still be onto sl/disfo, but that's not going to happen today... it's complete bs, to argue about what would happen without roles, when there are roles... you can argue, if they are valid claims or not, but pretending they don't exist and not using this information to your advantage is bad townplay... you need to use everything there is...

i am willing to speculate with you about fake-claims and stuff, because that is the reality the game takes place in, but to speculate, what would be without all the claims is just shutting your eyes and ignoring the major things that happend in the past 30 hours.

On May 29 2015 20:47 Barakos wrote:
I am not clearing them, but our claimed cop is onto sulfurus so why not do the same? I could of course waste a vote on sl again like last time but I got someone I can sheep atm.

And I am sheeping our claimed cop and not the confirmed mason, because the confirmed mason wasn't making sense with his vote. :p

So he has his own thoughts, but wants to sheep Bats? This seems odd from someone so attached to their own thoughts before. It makes sense if Bara is GF though, he wants to keep people thinking he's town and supports Bats to support his checks.

Now D4 again, we see Bara isn't targeting SL, why? He said D3 he still thinks he's scum. I'm wondering if this post had anything to do with it.
On May 30 2015 06:01 sicklucker wrote:
Your green check is garbage because there a gf in the game like 90%+ of the time and barkos is 95%+ town

Did he see SL town reading him and not want to piss him off? That's the only thing that makes sense to me.

I find Bara pretty scummy here, his votes and cases especially. I also know I'm not the only one, plots RB'd Bara N2 because he saw similarities in Bara's play this game to a scum game of his. I don't like meta reads, but Bara has been a little too sensible when talking to people and interacting. Yet his cases tend to fall flat, like he's not putting in the same effort.

So yea, Bara is a good lynch today.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
June 01 2015 11:05 GMT
#2175
And for those who hate to read, my TL DR version.

I find Bara pretty scummy here, his votes and cases especially. I also know I'm not the only one, plots RB'd Bara N2 because he saw similarities in Bara's play this game to a scum game of his. I don't like meta reads, but Bara has been a little too sensible when talking to people and interacting. Yet his cases tend to fall flat, like he's not putting in the same effort.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
June 01 2015 15:33 GMT
#2182
Dis raises some wonderful points about D4 activity, it's so Fing bad. Town has been clearly without clear direction the last 2 days, and this has been making it pretty easy for mafia to hide. Though maybe not as easy as it seems.

Anyone care to rescan the posts today? Notice if anyone is posting alot, but not offering a clear target.

In fact it might be fun to see how many possible scum targets people have suggested in the past 48hours or so. Scum will be trying to throw as much suspicion around as possible these last few days.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
June 01 2015 15:42 GMT
#2185
Also regarding 27nb. I said it before but I'll say it again.

Her not paying attn to the game is much more indicative of town at this point in the game, not a sign of scum. Bats thought so
On May 30 2015 06:58 batsnacks wrote:
shes here and doesn't give a shit. Mafia would give a shit.


Mafia is far more likely to be super involved now when they are only 2 mislynchs away from winning. Town on the other hand seems to be generally lost and confused. It would be no wonder then that Town might be de-modivated. After all there seems to be no clear direction for town to follow atm.

I've also mentioned BM before. BM showed clear signs he didn't care much about this game, but he flipped green.

Also I seem to recall Bara mentioning a few times D1 and D2 he doesn't like to lynch inactives. "it feels coinflippy" he said. Why was that not his opinion D3?

If Bara is willing to ignore the check on bunnies, I don't see it being so hard to disbelieve the check on him either...

Honestly, between Bara and Bunnies... who has more scum motivation in their play? Clearly they both were scummy enough to be checked by our Cop, but only one was also suspected by our Town RB as well as our Cop.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
June 01 2015 15:46 GMT
#2186
@ 27nb

What do you think about my points that Plots and Bara have spent most of the day deflecting and not looking for scum?

You keep promising to do reading and get back to us, care to make good on that offer?

Can you check how many posts Bara and plots have made today which offers no signs of scum hunting? And when they do mention people being potential scum... is it consistent, or is it all over the place, like everyone could still be scum?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
June 01 2015 15:56 GMT
#2189
I'm asking you to check kus I've already shown I'm doing a ton of reading into these guys today. Which most people seem to think is because I'm tunneled on them.

But if I've found scum, and have solid reasons that aren't shaken easily as to why they are scum, shouldn't I focus and push that?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
June 01 2015 16:02 GMT
#2192
@ Dis

Why do you have such a hard time with the green checks?

I'd rather focus on why Bara was being checked in the first place, since there is a decent chance the check itself could mean nothing.
I can take that responsibility.
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