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i'm gonna pretend i have no doubt that i meet the minimum requirements of being skilled and being a player people actually enjoy playing with :/ | ||
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On April 29 2015 22:23 Half the Sky wrote: LOL? I'm one of the worst town players on TL. If I'm in, I don't think you need to worry.  people don't like me much lately :/ i'm in an aggressive phase lol xP | ||
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<3 i found my day 1 lynch! xD | ||
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On May 08 2015 02:14 Damdred wrote: can i be really lazy this game or am i required to do things -sits on damdy's head- my turn for lazy game. you have to work xP | ||
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may 14-19 i have family in and will be out of town for part of it so...yeah, activity will be down course if we start tonight and i'm still alive by then you may want to lynch me anyway lolol >< (though maybe not with this player list xP) | ||
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lol? if anything, you're underrated xP your reads are better than people give you credit for ^^ | ||
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On May 09 2015 04:25 Vivax wrote: My town play is underrated when im town and overrated when im mafia. Kill me please. ![[image loading]](http://media.giphy.com/media/C7XaPdXaaKQNy/giphy.gif) | ||
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hay naku o.0 necesito usar los numeros como prp, ja? es mejor lol hi ^^ yay for game finally starting lol so much hype! \o/ towniest town who ever towned por supuesto, who is the next towniest?  | ||
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On May 10 2015 09:05 Onegu wrote: Im Town GRUMBLE GRUMBLE... My previous 46% is taking a hit. Im not happy about this one bit... ay! but don't you want to be the same alignment as me? since you think i can suss you out 100% of the time? lolOn May 10 2015 09:12 Half the Sky wrote: 1/10 Town here. Again. *happy dance* Excited for this game, particularly with some of the possible roles I've not seen yet in normal games (puppeteer, dreamflower, pardoner, nuker etc). mmmm happy dance doesn't seem too happy  town here. stop. again. stop. then happy dance? i dunnae hts we may be on opposing sides again :/On May 10 2015 09:12 KelsierSC wrote: you only know if you're town, you don't know how towny you are yet lol yeah? oh damn, you caught me xP shoulda read my pm! (the role changes how towny i am, does it? xP such odd ideas you have, ksc) hmmm try hard right from the start, ja? pero i don't know why you'd want to waste a post on saying my role pm changes my level of towniness, any more than why ls would waste a post saying hi before commenting on a geript student V style posting strategy On May 10 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote: Well I rolled town. I think Rs is likely town one post and i'm already your favorite person, net hubby? lol >< that's awfully quick, no? what makes you think so? (besides me saying so )On May 10 2015 09:37 yamato77 wrote: MAKE ME A MOTHER FUCKING DREAM FLOWER DO IT Yamato-kun! how happy are you today? lol...finally ending that scum streak maybe? | ||
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bueno, bats apparently has chosen not to participate in tonight's festivities :/ after something of a sermon about leadership/followership lol >< no idea why he'd choose that way to convey those ideas. too strange to really draw anything from (for me, anyway) -yawns at ksc- if i'm clear enough for others to figure out, i don't see what your problem is xP i'm a rackastack not a one-post scum-finding wonder but apparently truffle is the rsoul-whisperer...his coloring was correct on my leans with perhaps closer to null on you and ls (pink! yay!)...still deciding whether the aggression is misguided or deliberately focused on things that mean nothing ^^hrum, truffle-bby you talk of buddying while mirroring my obviously wonderful preliminary reads but lol >< you don't see the humor in that? xP i presume since you're suspicious of ksc and talking of buddying you find me town (another easy read and i already told everyone as much xP) what's with reposting the player list? | ||
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insomnia says hi! i lack the lust of the lustre of the stuff or something lol xP TalkingDead knows me >> this no me parece very fair :/ i like the TalkingDead entrance though hrm oneg looks like oneg lol >< what more is there to say about an oneg? but he's ignoring me ;o; as is oats so unloved. digame, is it like an oats to post just to complain and disappear?warming up to ksc some yes, truffle prob town cause he's truffle <3 hi truffle ^^ bats eh...gets townread for sarcasm stays sarcastic and obstructive = null otras cosas.... On May 10 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote: Well I rolled town. I think Rs is likely town meh damdy, why you lying? this after my first post? that's not just cause i posted first, and they're right...very null entrance post lol ADEMAS there is the bolding of yamato while calling it a bad read (scumread) from GB, but not the hts, yet later you say you like hts' tone lol >< which is fine if you were looking for someone to notice, but when people only say that you like my pushes while not liking my read, you praise them for thinking critically? eh :/ bill murray and blazhinghand maybe looking for reactions? bill murray's entrance uber scummy and too willing to give away the postehs so don't have to post, and blazinghand quite brazenly lying in an easily discoverable way xP gb dunnae, he's weird anyway. have a way to read him that isn't viable until later anyway if i've forgotten you you're boring and you should go slit your wrists <3 xoxoxo (disclaimer: an rsoul will not be held liable for inability to understand sarcasm :0) | ||
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hrum hrum hrum okay damdy <3 yes it looked very strange and implied you scumread hts...i assumed that was the contradiction you were referring to...pues...tentative townread for now o.0 why can't you read my posts, oats? i'm not familiar with this problem? | ||
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Hi  -radiates ksc's head some more so he has an excuse for poor reading comprehension- xP only town reads/town leans lol >< i refuse to bow to the man! \o/ and make pretty colored list posts. read, you boob, or stop talking about me bueno ls is right; hts can have wobbly entrances as scum which is why i go for the toneread early on her (and no, i do not intend to ignore everything else from her) you are kinda right, ls, in that my reason for the truffle read is weak. it's also not actually in the thread he's just one of the players i'm best at reading early lol and i'm not interested in going into something that only means something to mehmmm @ marv jat also gets a hmmm...the early commitment is nice but lol i doubt my hts toneread, awesome amazing-sauce as it is, is the only thing in this thread worth commenting on xP at least palmar doesn't even pretend to be contributing lolol stutters you make me ;o; like xata. will share why later. or someone else can tell me why xD -makes puppy eyes at the thread- | ||
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xP nope i have faith in you \o/ @.@ term paper writing time | ||
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ze awesome ones: hts - clear town after posting xP jat - missed his second post lol >< fail rsoul not quite so awesome but cool damdy truffle - lazy ass -_- xata - toneread based primarily on the below post (inclusive) On May 10 2015 23:30 Xatalos wrote: Not really except the really strict post restriction. I can't read the LS post TLDR / conclusions, if any?KSC: I can sort of agree with the fact that making weird plays (Damdred) more often comes from town. It's just that this assumes that it *was* in fact a prepared play and not to cover up questionable reads. In any case, how exactly did LS's post make you change your read? I at least couldn't really extract anything from it. ksc ve - see ve's comment on rol blah diddy blah diddy blah (i.e. nulls and slight leans not worth mentioning) marv - just ick bats stutters - eh, what's the point of posting at all? rol - see ve's reasoning >< bm onegu - get this trying too hard to hammer home that he wanted to be scum this game feeling, frankly bueno questions? ask there's my list for those with poor reading comprehension...things i haven't explained already or that changed got blurbs \o/ also, tbf got a "rayn" feeling of the TalkingDead as well lol >< | ||
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you can't read and bh is a moron ^^ yay morons! \o/ can we lynch marv now? | ||
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because the king of town is neither very kingly nor very townie and perhaps gb thereafter, though i can't decide if it was an excuse for the so-called "frightened vets" or just sheer stupidity/lack of reading comprehension | ||
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On May 11 2015 09:43 Blazinghand wrote: point out a flaw in my logic if you see it. GB tried and turned out he wasn't reading the host posts. unless of ocurse you got a scum pm and that's why I'm wrong? lol moronic is a state of being xP not dependent on any particular post of yours, but as for this particular game... sandy already pointed out what you failed to read, unless you think it makes sense for scum to sit there and choose their roles blindly independent of one another. i don't know that the hosts are such jokesters, and frankly i don't care, but obviously your list post was worthless anyway because according to you scum has already won not to mention you failed to read closely enough to even divide your categories properly bring something worth discussing or go away. tiresome one as for gb...if i'm really so difficult to understand let me make it clear. i think you may have been contriving excuses for our vaunted veterans often nk'd early...when there was no N0 night kill. that or you're just stupid xD i'll decide later talk to me about marv; he's the one i want to lynch today...or give me a better lynch | ||
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On May 11 2015 09:47 LightningStrike wrote: He only have 3 posts since the game started and Palmar had only 1 post saying Hi but it's the weekend I think it's easier to figure out Palmar's alignment and Marv once they start posting because they can read each other pretty damn well. palmar is palmar and will do as palmar does marv's silence is more alignment indicative, at least to me going to commit to anything this game, ls, or just wait for everyone else to tell you what to do, make your reads for you? hts, talk to me about who you want to lynch right now, mamacita <3 | ||
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On May 11 2015 09:56 Blazinghand wrote: The hosts literally said that scum get a pm that says "mafia" dude. like, look, maybe i screwed up in reading filters, but unless you think the hosts literally lied, you should be saying "balzinghand, the idea is right but you did it wrong, sandro is town" or something. Clearly you're not intelligent enough to understand me, so I'm going to ignore you until I see evidence otherwose lol the idea is by definition wrong if you have more scum than town it's okay though. i <3 morons (i also speak bh \o/) not everyone can be expected to understand simple logicwho should we lynch, tonto? | ||
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On May 11 2015 09:57 Half the Sky wrote: 3/60 If I had to make a decision right now, just based on what I have looked at, I'd say GB and LS second. (Particularly with GB's latest post.) I am querying a few others based on things I find don't add up (e.g. Marv) and still getting through Sandro's/Rayn's posts atm. eh...waffly on both of those :/ not sure why you're so sure i like sandy though ^^ and yes, think we should lynch marv bangbang bueno, that's all from me for now @Oats how is he not? xP if you've got one good reason to townread him i'll listen lol >< just one | ||
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bueno willing to compromise on a SCUM and not a NULL because i'm not null-reading marv despite oats' implication to the contrary mmmm honestly sandro td is just eeeeeeehhhh to me right now...i'm not a big fan of huge list posts with giant explanations and little worth in general, and while the town-town, scum-scum thing is odd i'm not sure how that makes him scum? unless you're implying (as you seem to be) that damdy and td are scum together, and that his linking damdy to gb and townreading gb is his way of implicitly protecting damdy... i don't really agree with you on the damdred scumread. i've recently played with him as scum...it's not really settling in the same way for me. the best way to put it is fluidity i think but lol...i'm terrible at explaining these types of things if you're basing td's alignment on damdy's i think you're on the wrong track ^^ | ||
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-facepalms at bm- perhaps the most idiotic part is you're probably actually town READ THE ENTIRE THREAD/ALL THE FILTERS BEFORE YOU START SHOOTING >< even if i'm actually wrong on truffle FOR ONCE (and no i don't expect you to know that i'm the shit at reading this kid) the way you went about this was completely retarded >< you don't read two filters and then shoot off a nuke, especially given it's Mother's Day and Day 1 has barely started wth -_- meh was gonna reserve posts for the morning until after the euros got in here, but that's too stupid -_- | ||
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On May 11 2015 14:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You guys thinking BM's nuke is real. :/ you think hapa's just trolling us? -_- or what is the purpose of this post? | ||
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)@.@ i slept waaaaaay too long and hts i'm gonna beat you with a stick if not posting in a 11 hour period (that includes sleepy time! \o/) becomes a we should pressure ras like we're pressuring vivax habit. actually....-beats with a stick anyway- >> onegu and his "obligatory" not-town read on me meh seems over-explained. whole post does even. i've seen him try-hard recently as town, but...yo, hts, i was scum that game and not paying much attention; does it read the same? i'm feeling like an oneg lynch right now! \o/ i kinda like marv better and not just for posting but also for being kinda an ass, and if you know what i'm doing, jat, shut up and let me do it mmmm bm is dumb -_- not sure this makes him scum. may lynch anyway if he's going to continue shooting off nukes like an idiot at people without thinking first still think truffle is town so it's hard for me to see scum saving a townie but at the same time...i didn't really like bh's reasoning at all. truffle got mad so he's town? then why ask truffle why he should save him, then base his reasoning not on the answer but on truffle's initial reaction? that's bugging me more than it should maybe >< i dunnae. how likely is it for scum to save town here for towncred? i'm assuming he has multiple anti-nukes... | ||
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lol now i'm not sure you have the faintest clue what i'm doing...but thanks for making me paranoid enough to have to go count posts -_- what precisely am i doing, jat? or better yet, why didn't you comment on anything actually relevant in my post? (hint: this is your opportunity to do so xD) | ||
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On May 12 2015 02:47 Vivax wrote: Really simple question dudes. What happened to BM here? ummm he's lynching bm? what's your point? @xata don't take this to the bank cause bad track record but i actually think ls could be town this game for the silly little smurf sidebar lol >< also for some of the phrasing used when he did it kinda more interested why this is the only thing you want to talk about, though. let me make it easy. not lynching ls right now. give me someone else you want to lynch | ||
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On May 12 2015 02:54 yamato77 wrote: talk to me tina you've been ignoring me and I had you as town >_> ??? i ignore scum buddies i'm not bussing, apparently lol xP so odd comment regardless not really sure what to make of you, frankly this song suits xP and i dunnae everyone doesn't like jat but i don't find him that bad? he strikes me as way more flamy when he's being scumread as scum, but since i'm not sure i was just going to let y'all pressure him and do my own thing trying to figure him out xP | ||
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On May 12 2015 02:55 Onegu wrote: Shes not town and you want to know why, she hasnt pushed a BH lynch yet. 14/60 i hope you're scum this game oneg xD i really had you as more intelligent than this | ||
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okay to be more clear why oneg is giving me the icks includes not just a similar take on his tone that marv got but also a couple things that naturally mean more to me than other people -_- - the overexplained everything...he's more the fuck you i'm gonna do what i want type, at least in most of the games i've played with him, though the one newbie game he was more serious which is why i'm trying to get hts' input (i pay less attention than i should when i'm scum lol) - secondly, i recently asked him why he always scumreads me every game. which actually isn't true; it just felt like it recently because of guardians where the twit fake-claimed mason with scum rayn while flaming me all game lol >< couple that with the "obligatory" and it almost seems like he's doing it just to ascribe to "meta" that actually isn't really true anyway, just me being sensitive xP - third, he genuinely believes i'm one of the best people at reading him, yet that's not part of his scumread. it was like the central point of his read when i was scum in student VII (and why he had so much trouble getting people to actually pay attention, i might add). not seeing the OMGUS you always get my alignment right but you're WRONG and therefore SCUM response here. if anything it should be stronger cause i actually did flip scum | ||
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On May 12 2015 03:12 Damdred wrote: Theres really not much to say? I think it was dumb of BH but I don't think him being dumb is really indicative... Anyway I actually like Yamato at this point, hes not useless per scum game. He seems to have actual thoughs behind what hes posting, I think he is an ok town lean presently. RS can you give me something to work with? Xata, I agree with you that LS still is scummy and that post is a good example. However, you used the post count restrictions the last time I caught you as well </3. Tell me what you think of Jat, Palmar and Marv. (11?) 16/60 what the living fuck? am i just posting for my health? either comment on what i'm actually talking about or go away -_- you're pissing me off. OR AT THE VERY LEAST if you think what i'm doing is that useless tell me what the hell you even want me to talk about give you something to work with my ass -_- @jat...ls' meta read is better than you think it is lol >< when we were scum together you had like the EXACT SAME argument with hf when he was town and you were scum, practically verbatim, and there is a bullying element to how you play as scum, whether you realize it or not -shrugs- eh you're probably right about yama...it's some of his one-liners that keep bugging me tbh...that and i remember him going ham earlier in his scum game so i'm not sure it's outside his scum range? he's not someone i want to lynch today by any means, though | ||
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On May 12 2015 03:26 Damdred wrote: Considering you ninja'd me on some of your posts while I was typing my post on my phone yea get your head out of your ass and stop jumping to conclusions. Seriously i'm one of your best friends this game where people are saying why are people town reading rs, and I stand by my read. So yea, now get back to work or you get the hose again. As such, are you officially scum reading oneg? Or is it just an ick feeling? (12) ...considering onegu may be literally my only consistent scumread all game yes i'm scumreading onegu -facedesks- next time i do a list i wont do the category and the >< category beneath the null reads because apparently common sense is difficult for people -_-gonna have to consider coloring fucking names just so people get that just because i don't do the formulaic so and so equals such and such alignment because such and such doesn't mean i'm not taking stances on people -_- sorry this is friggin irritating. it's probably my fault but i guess i don't feel the need to spoonfeed everyone my reads...posting lists at all is a concession in itself -_- bueno okay -_- could lynch rol palmar honestly though it's kinda plynch-level for me, not sure why bh is town hero though...you don't find how he did the anti-nuke thing weird at all? like literally i'm townreading truffle and STILL have problems with it lol >< maybe i'm way off-base dunnae but it's just so...weird. like bh isn't being like him at all...not sure if it's cause it's a ver game or what but the closest he got to what i'd expect from him is saying i'm too stupid to understand his mad plays \o/ -grumbles at ls- don't have to be nice -_- lol >< i'm really kinda tired of the constant "you don't do anything" feedback i've been getting over the last several games. color-coding may seriously become a thing; i'm not even kidding damdred prob town but stop pissing me off -_- | ||
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you're saying tmi you'd have to be braindead to think marv is scum at this juncture be useful vivax burning through posts -_- going to actually finish my term papers now...vote is on vivax, could change to bm with little persuasion just cause if someone that dumb has nukes don't really care if he's town or not -_- onegu would be a good lynch too but i don't expect that to fly over the others right now...i've stopped expecting people to pay the slightest attention to my scumreads unless they're wrong \o/ | ||
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On May 12 2015 03:52 KelsierSC wrote: I thought you called vivax town. after he posted good morning, what changed? o.0 dude are you serious? you think him posting good morning would merit a townread? i was being sarcastic i vaguely remember i think it was hts giving someone a townread for the good morning (prob ls?) but that's tonal. since he had it in all caps the commentary actually meant that just because ls got a townlean from hts for saying good morning didn't mean vivax could get towned for saying good morning -_- meh gonna color-code for realz...like it's super strange anyone would think i'd actually townread someone for that -grumbles- | ||
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On May 12 2015 04:49 Vivax wrote: Rso no that much of a pita in this game, what's going on? Actually explaining her reads all the time not just interfering with other people's. Might be she's aiming for the townie of the month award but then that's what's odd about all of that. Also she seems particularly attentive to stuff adressed to her, also feels unusual. Metatonish read, not the rso I'm used to who was always the townie one. of course you post this after i grudgingly unvote you -_- it's not really making me want to lynch you more though, ironically...lol >< (clue: post restrictive game meets spammy player meets you're not reading all my posts if you think i'm being all...sweet? lol ><) i want to lynch bh/onegu as scum right now. flat out. those are my scumreads. deal with it. like, onegu over bh right now but yeah bm i think is town but highly stupid -_- though i really, really liked what he pointed out about onegu and possibly softing (kinda) traitor...that was an interesting take there was something off about oats toward me but it might just be knee-jerk...it was when he - accused me of posting just cause i felt that i "needed" to react then a minute later - explained dud nukes to me it just felt off. it's like if you're scumreading me, why bother to explain the dud thing? i don't know that it makes him scum but i wouldn't cry if he was lynched; that's for sure ows/bats i just don't know about -_- nullish i guess PS: if you want to attempt to metaread me, you can look at the scum games in my profile (all linked) but i doubt you get far. people have successfully toneread me but i've yet to see an accurate metaread (as marv/damdy xP)...perhaps because my play is pretty fluid anyway, being somewhat new (6 months) to mafia in general | ||
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i should really f5...less inclined to lynch bh now :/ though i'd still like you to explain your thought process on truffle cause it's still hella weird and yeah probably literally not going to look at this game again until tomorrow morning gonna run out of posts blah | ||
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On May 12 2015 05:29 Half the Sky wrote: 17/60 Rasputin, since you asked me on Onegu: If I had to look at his read on you alone...overexplained.....I don't know if I could consider it "overexplained" tbh. If Onegu is scum, I don't think this read makes him scum. Part of this is a fear read on you (Student 7, where he replaced out) where he nailed you on your hesistancy when someone scumreads you, so when I read this again, my impression is that he tried to connect that with how he interpreted your reads (not so intense). I think this is earnest town Onegu here. It doesn't sound like he's taking your play out of context but I can see where he's getting the connection. I don't agree with the read given your subsequent posts though I am curious to see if he changes his stance on you. I might have a problem if he still says you're too soft. 22/60 could seriously be tunneling -_- please refer to all my points on him in the case-like post, though, and then get back to me. i mainly wanted to know if this try-hard seems like the student VII try-hard to you or not, cause it's definitely not the usual fuck-off gonna do what i want onegu that normally means town the over-explained thing was subjective, obviously, cause onegu isn't a huge poster anyway...other players obviously that wouldn't be over-explained i'm glad you quoted this though cause please explain to me how the final sentence matches the rest of the read? also this "not-town" theme is pretty stupid. i'm either scum or i'm not, and if you're going to list every reason to scumread me then soft a not-real read by accompanying it with a "mandatory" disclaimer it just doesn't match up not liking the <3s either but that's tonal | ||
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-_- thanks for your opinion? i feel like i'm beating my head against a brick wall, though, because you don't seem to be getting what i'm actually saying ABSOLUTELY NONE of the things in those quotes that he BELIEVES makes me scum, because the townie way to approach reading someone is to believe your way of reading them is correct if you were right on their alignment and see it again, are mentioned here i'm not sure how to make this any clearer -_- | ||
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bm, i think you're town, dude. so talk to me yeah? i know i've called you stupid but i actually can see your read on truffle pretty clearly (don't agree with it but that's more of a i really, really know truffle very well sorta thing), and while i don't quite get the marv nuke that's neither here nor there for me at this point i liked what you pointed out about onegu and i don't think we should lynch you or shoot you. what are your other reads? | ||
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On May 12 2015 06:53 GlowingBear wrote: Tell me you're kidding here. I have a town read on you but I might rescind if you really mean to push this 25/60 not the stupidest read ever and i'm not going into why xP just think and maybe you'll get it | ||
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##Give 5 posts to Bill Murray | ||
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hrum, how to answer that, damdy? like i'm aware that i can be wrong and it's one of the reasons i want to discuss it, but if i could make all the decisions in this game he'd already be lynched. he doesn't feel right to me at all >< | ||
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On May 12 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote: Rsoul serious scum, she just went from me scum to agreeing with BM? His only point is that I claimed traitor. How can she agree with those points? I didn't claim traitor, If I was going to claim traitor I would use some hidden BBCode to do it. NOT SAY I WISH I WAS GOING TO GET TRAITOR... And she knows I would do it that way thats how I handle my claims. So she is pushing me on false points agreeing with BM. That would be like the worse play ever. I maybe dumb but really not that dumb. I thought I could get a town PM and then get the role Traitor but then realized I cant... 33/60 gonna talk to me this game dipshit? saying i thought what he said about you was interesting DOES NOT mean i necessarily agree. it obviously says more about HIS alignment than yours i think you're flatout scum, and i've made that more than clear on multiple occasions prove i'm wrong | ||
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On May 12 2015 07:14 Damdred wrote: Let's say I don't want to lynch bm because I really don't. I would,like to lynch oneg but he's not my primary, xatalos Is high on my list and oats. I'm torn on vivax could lynch today maybe. Those are the four I'd like to be up for lynch/big. What do you think 34/60 i'd prefer oneg cause i'm more sure on him... won't lynch ls or vivax today...i'm not sold they're town but have reasons to think they could be xata and oats i'm fine with lynching, though. oats feels off cause of what i've said and i'm okay with sandy's points on him, too, and i dunnae xata just...eh. lol he can fool me easily. carol proved that. and i find it really difficult to believe he's already forgotten carol -_- and vivax going after him hard, cause i remember it quite clearly | ||
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On May 12 2015 07:14 Onegu wrote: This is you agreeing with him... His only point is that I have "claimed traitor". think think think why does scum go hunting for traitor? as i understand it, they don't know who it is, and so would have no way of knowing if you're trying to soft it, and frankly you'd have to be more bold about it anyway so that's a shit defense to begin with oooooneeeeegu he doesn't have to be right for me to like that he pointed it out all you're quoting is me thinking that push makes him look more townie. if i'm scum it's not because of that. grow some brain cells. or keep at it if you're scum xD it'll just make it easier for me to lynch you | ||
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okay lol >< that matches up with my feels on him...i liked the initial pulling stutters in post that i quoted but frankly i can't think of anything else that stands out to me that i actually liked about xata o.0 and right now i just want to kill onegu because he's pissing me off, so more time might not be a bad idea -_- -chunks virtual rocks at onegu's head- don't think i need to begin to explain how you seemingly not giving a fuck now when i said it was a towntell for you means ABSOLUTELY ZERO...and the <3s have like absolutely nothing to do with it since it's just a thing that i don't like i'd really like you to pull your head out your ass and be townie for me if i'm wrong but instead you're being a shit -_- ahem i'll lynch xata with you, damdy; let me just double-check his filter real quick in case there's something i'm not remembering? | ||
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(i'd lynch bh today xP kinda shelving oneg at least until tomorrow cause wanting to skin him = not objective) also, bm, if you're not going to use those posts, i'd like them back well tbh damdy i don't think i really know what a town xata looks like for sure (as ongoing game still ongoing), but i have no objections to a xata lynch looking back through his filter and you were right about him before? so i'm willing to sheep you on it lol >< | ||
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not wasting any more posts arguing with dumbshit up there so someone talk to him for me so i can get a good read, please and thank you? he's just gonna be an asshole to me anyway | ||
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\o/ looks like a mislynch day woot! guess i'll vote xata ##vote Xatalos yama i've decided on you now <3 mostly for the breakdown on the td post which i thought was actually pretty good lol (both posts really) @oneg move on. you couldn't get me lynched as scum and you definitely won't get me mislynched. i'll decide later how much i believe this is an excuse not to have to really give any other reads or if you're just being needlessly stubborn and wrong -_- i really, really would not complain about a blazinghand lynch at all. role speculation and its usefulness aside, reads on truffle and marv aside, if he wasn't anti-nuking his contribution to the thread would be 0...and it's practically that anyway | ||
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you could try to be something above shit tier that would help, bh <3 somewhere, deep inside, i actually do like you bh...you should feel honored that i think your skill level is above this crap. truly. thank me and kiss my feet xD like if anything at all is in your favor, it's that you were similarly lazy as mod-confirmed jk in titanic, but here you are not mod-confirmed and even there you were more productive despite the laziness | ||
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On May 12 2015 10:41 KelsierSC wrote: cos reasons....da fuq cause you apparently can't read an entire filter when you're filter diving <3 how many times have i said your reading comprehension needs work this game? | ||
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On May 12 2015 10:51 KelsierSC wrote: probably like 20 I don't know I have the ultimate database of doom, and reading between those posts I didn't see you mention xatalos so I was massively confused. so he's mafia now despite your town readssss and stuff so...preliminary townread based on just one post, and then my reason is in the post you quoted (but oddly didn't bold the reason) yet you can't figure it out? -_- i don't really know what to tell you, ksc. TRY to read everything maybe? it helps | ||
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On May 12 2015 10:59 KelsierSC wrote: ok, i just didn't think "eh he fooled me before" was a good enough reason to do a 180 on a read. i'm sorry -squints at- it's either not a good enough reason or it is? like why would me saying that is my reason if you already saw it and it wasn't a good enough reason then change your opinion? (newsflash: that's just part of what was in the post -_-) but yeah...i don't get it | ||
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On May 12 2015 11:07 KelsierSC wrote: I dunno I didn't think it was enough to cause a 180 on a read, but I have no idea which of your reads are real so i'm just going to watch girls eat food again. wtf? real? seriously, dude, if you're not actually a native english speaker you have got to let me know, because otherwise this makes no sense. since when does someone having "fake" reads mean you should be townreading them -_- i had a light tonal read on xata early in the game. he hasn't impressed me since. he's fooled me before and his conveniently forgetting carol and vivax's tunnel on him doesn't sit well with me. the only part of this that wasn't in my filter before is that it was a light tonal read, though that should be obvious from context -_- i talked to damdy about xata quite a bit and am admittedly trusting damdy on him because i know that damdred can read xatalos better than i can. how is this difficult? it's all in my filter -_- you have good reads sometimes gb lol please keep talking about them the reasons sometimes are odd but that doesn't mean you should stop sharing them | ||
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i don't really mind people not getting things or even calling me scum for it, cause i've been jumping around a lot more with the posting restriction than normal, but you dropped that read awfully fast for what seemed like very little reason...makes me itch -_- like if you legit didn't see the rest of the paragraph you bolded the sentence in cause you're skimming like a dolt, whatever, but what i said shouldn't have changed your mind, which is why i'm having trouble with it -_- meh. anyone else find that odd or am i just keying in on inconsequentials? | ||
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i'm going to assume that was meant for me and not ksc -_- not sure why you seem so damn timid around me, ksc, if you really think i'm scum. i really don't think i'm that scary a person. can tell you one thing, though...that half-assed bullshit isn't going to get me lynched any more than onegu's non-points lol >< | ||
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that like never happens i could just beat you over the head gb with the idiocy of me being your pretty scum team's chosen buss but whatever. i'd rather hear where your scumread comes from, frankly -_- | ||
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i'm getting an inordinate amount of scumreads, ls lol >< onegu...eh as either alignment it wouldn't surprise me, but i still want to lynch him, so not concerned about that ksc...his scumread is weird...the entire progression doesn't even look like a scumread...lol >< no one's commented on it, though, and i'd like them to >< could easily be scum just for not sticking to his guns or really committing to it when i'm in-thread but gb i'm pretty sure is town which makes me so it would be nice if he explained. especially considering he hasn't mentioned it before | ||
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On May 12 2015 22:46 justanothertownie wrote: Since when are you so abrasive towards LS? Wtf is wrong with you? o.0 so much this...normally when you disagree with him you post something along the lines of "have i told you how much you're my favorite player?" and he says something like "o.0 yes?" lol >< ... On May 12 2015 22:21 batsnacks wrote: ##vote Sandroba I found probable mafia. Unfortunately I can't explain it without claiming. It's weird though because sandroba did nothing last game as mafia and now he's talking a lot. i know what you're doing lol >< but my question to you is think about it...i don't think only one alignment would miss it for a pretty good reason, yeah? like, balancing probabilities sure i get it, but if you don't really think he's scum for any other reason... also, just to verify that i really do know what you're doing and not just assume that i know what you're doing, can you confirm your read on viva for me? preferably after a filter-dive plsthx | ||
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On May 12 2015 23:09 Palmar wrote: you're right that was a bit dick-ish, sorry LS But the point stands. Sandroba not posting as mafia in one game does not mean he cannot post in another, and because of the filter limitations it's not exactly hard to post 3 pages of stuff in one game. Same with RoL. He's lazy and shit as either alignment. But he did jump a dumb remark from me (apparently a lot of people here are literally sheldon). Like maybe I'm just wrong and bad about sandroba, projecting my own personality on him too much but he's now done two things this game where I just think "If I was towndroba in this situation I'd have reacted completely differently". Aside from my initial point about how him saying he'd keep an eye on marv was basically a pointless sentence that doesn't fit in (If he doesn't say that, can we then assume he's not keeping an eye on marv? Isn't the default position in all mafia games to always keep an eye on everyone?), there is more too. 1). Sandroba's reaction to me calling him scum. Dismissal. He doesn't defend against my point and he doesn't try to use it to pry into my own alignment. He just outright dismisses my stuff, only to come back later and say: Which implies he doesn't know why I think he's mafia, when I had already explained it then. Also 2). His reaction to the BM pardon. Sandroba literally just made this case on BM: And his primary scumread gets pardoned. This is fucking sandroba people. Not some random scrub who doesn't know jack shit about the game. Again, I may be projecting my own personality but I'd be so mad at this. Think how I would've reacted if anyone would've pardoned GB in mini mafia mini thing or someone had pardoned WoS in noir 3. I was mad enough with people just not listening to me. But someone actively shutting me down? Fuck that. I don't think sandroba cares, I think he didn't defend my case and instead chose to dismiss it and I think my initial point was very good. We should lynch sandroba. lol >< is this the game that i should sheep you? the not getting angry point makes a ton of sense to me -_- way more than anything else anyone has brought up on him, cause i have no clue how "good" sandy actually is as town but first...dude, are you like mad about something yourself cause...eh? nice you said sorry to ls and all but it's still out of character and i don't get it -_- i'm the bitch in these parts xP | ||
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... what sucks more is he's been pushing xata what sucks more is i'm not seeing a role in the op where this makes an ounce of sense ... so i don't know what you're doing, damdy, but it's not making me happy with you ^^ | ||
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On May 12 2015 23:56 justanothertownie wrote: You mean apart from the dayvig role? dayvig doesn't flip alignment -_- how long do you plan on staying retarded? what use is a shot like this without an alignment flip | ||
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On May 13 2015 00:00 justanothertownie wrote: If BM is/was mafia then it was very useful, no? And yes, that's exactly the reason I wanted to lynch BM instead of having a dayvig shoot him. But a certain someone made that impossble. Tomorrow would have been centered around bm again if you do not see that then you are the retarded one. who cares? like, legitimately, who gives a flying fuck if tomorrow is "centered around" bm again? that's just information in the thread. as opposed to no information and frankly, i don't think he is scum. i've made that very clear for a long time. sure, i could be wrong, but now we just don't know unless four scum flip and game is over \o/ that's brilliant. and that's assuming no 3p or whatever (not really sure what traitor roles even do lol ><) i will continue to call you retarded as long as you act that way like i don't get the problem with a normal lynch or further discussion on bm tomorrow. maybe i'm just too new at this but how is an UNFLIPPED VIG SHOT better than LYNCHING him, TOWN OR SCUM? like seriously -_- | ||
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On May 13 2015 00:20 justanothertownie wrote: This is the last thing I will say about this because it is wasting time and posts but if you think that this is what I am saying then you should work on your own reading comprehension. Let's say BM is mafia. In that case it is annoying that we do not have the information but at least it is a dead mafia. Maybe we have a coroner to fix this. Let's say BM is town. We would have probably lynched him tomorrow - that's 2 days wasted on him. Good thing he is out of the way. better hope we have a coroner -_- there's no guarantee we do i still don't agree with it, and it makes even less sense given damdred's push, which is why i've unvoted cause fuck damdy right now i'm not sheeping his reads -_- meh i've got shit to do you guys do whatever you want xD bunch of fucking cowboys at best | ||
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how does it make sense that when bm gets pardoned your fucking push becomes a primary lynch target and you choose to dayvig bm...if you're that worried about stagnation, why today and not tomorrow? i thought you were townreading him? like...wth? it doesn't add up so no, i'm not going to just sheep you on xata as i have been, and i really don't care if people think i'm overreacting or not | ||
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i'm done tired of beating my head against a wall. if people can't see why what damdred did was nonsensical i don't even know. it's less that he did it and that he did it WITH his current reads under THESE circumstances. whatever | ||
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wifom aside he doesn't make sense i can't trust what doesn't make sense. it's really that simple | ||
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On May 13 2015 01:13 Xatalos wrote: Back. Sorry about the long AFK streak but I simply haven't been able to catch up for a while and even now I missed an IRL event just to get some time to read these games. I still can't get quite over LS. Just as I yesterday thought that I might have misjudged him when he went on talking about meta reads etc., he posted this: It's... just... so sheepish/inconclusive. Like he's wanting to make friends and blend in rather than to progress the game. Dunno what rsoultin was going on about with the "conveniently forgot about Carol" or something. First I was a townread and suddenly scum for some nonexistent reason when people started doubting me? Frankly I can't remember most of my games too well and I only remember something like trying to antagonize marv, slipping in PM's and getting lunched in that game. I think jat was also in my team but that's about it. rsoultin might as well be scum for that rather convenient read progression. I don't think sandroba's lack of reaction to specific events really makes him scum. Did you see his last scumgame Palmar? It was abysmal. He's clearly trying here so that's enough to make me think he's not scum for now. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells wrong game. skim and remember then read the fucking thread or at least the filters of the people you're scumreading so it isn't so obvious how weak your reads are ^^ -shoos- | ||
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heh -_- i knew i was close but i didn't think i was this close give me posts and i'll talk to you. otherwise, read my filter. it's amazing how easy it is to find things i've already said in there -_- i may even, amazingly, be willing to do a list post in collegiate writing just for the people who constantly complain about brain cancer and have trouble with simple reading comprehension ^^ | ||
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On May 13 2015 01:27 rsoultin wrote: 61/75 heh -_- i knew i was close but i didn't think i was this close give me posts and i'll talk to you. otherwise, read my filter. it's amazing how easy it is to find things i've already said in there -_- i may even, amazingly, be willing to do a list post in collegiate writing just for the people who constantly complain about brain cancer and have trouble with simple reading comprehension ^^ more like i'm being a bitch xDDDDDDDDDDD because you either can't fucking read which amusingly what i was just complaining about, or you literally started asking me questions, trying to get a list post out of me when i had no posts...while not giving the posts i specifically asked you to donate if you wanted a conversation with me ^^ and given you're now trying to use it as the basis of your scumread, i'm definitely leaning toward the second option frankly, very few things irritate me as much as having to repeat myself, especially in a post restrictive game when i'm naturally spammy i'll address things in my own time | ||
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fine. i'll play ball, but only because i think there might be some random townie out there similarly incapable of reading my read progression on you isn't strong because my read on you isn't strong. i was sheeping damdred as a townread who has demonstrated in the past that he is much better at reading you than i am. my filter makes that clear a million times over, which is why i know you're not reading ^^ oh, that and you've shown an amazing ability to not read entire posts of people who are in the thread talking with you at the time you may think it's cute to sheep ksc's awful read, but i don't. he sits here and changes his mind based on little then thinks it's scummy for others to? a "180" on someone you don't have a strong lean on in the first place is not a "180" and if either of you genuinely believe that you're imbeciles ^^ as for ls... On May 12 2015 02:53 rsoultin wrote: 12/60 ummm he's lynching bm? what's your point? @xata don't take this to the bank cause bad track record but i actually think ls could be town this game for the silly little smurf sidebar lol >< also for some of the phrasing used when he did it kinda more interested why this is the only thing you want to talk about, though. let me make it easy. not lynching ls right now. give me someone else you want to lynch let me make this really, really simple for you. i have a tendency to read ls town. i'm aware of it. but him going out of his way to collect meta on anyone is usually a sign that he's town, and that he specifically said "and then i'll report back!" is specific phrasing i've only seen him use as town. could he imitate it, and could i be wrong again, sure. this is a lean. as in a WEAK read any more questions as to why reads that i say are weak or leans are "weak"? cause this is a stupid push | ||
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On May 13 2015 02:54 Xatalos wrote: Dunno when I have called your reads weak or actually pushed you? You could try reading yourself. I just said that your reads were near impossible to understand and that you might be scum for that and your convenient read progression on me (basically adapting to thread sentiment all too well). You wouldn't be my preferred lynch today by far though. I guess you might have your own way of reading LS, but it hardly warrants calling my read on him trash. It's mostly gut feeling, I admit, it's just that I've rarely gotten such a spider sense of someone being scum just from their all too vague / fluffy posting style. 63/76 this is literally the last post i'm wasting on this discussion. literally. the last. no you did not specifically use the phrasing "weak". you implied it. you implied my read progression doesn't make sense and called me scum for it. that is pushing me. perhaps we define it differently, but you are pushing suspicion in my general direction, a suspicion i might add that is practically word-for-word the same as ksc's...one of the patterns damdred was talking about about you iirc nor did i call your read on him "trash". i didn't like that it was THE ONLY thing you were pulling from the thread. ls could be scum. statistically and based on my light read he's more likely town, and he is an ALL TOO EASY mislynch, so you focusing on him and ONLY him is not a good sign for you, xata of course i'm not your "preferred" lynch today. i'm never getting lynched today, and certainly not for this nonsense. congratulations, though ^^ i'm almost at the point where i feel comfortable voting you based purely on my own read, mr. parrot. i'll readdress when i'm not as irritated -_- | ||
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i've wanted to lynch either blazinghand or onegu for over half the cycle it feels like lol >< but...and yes, but... marv...i'm not sure why you're more sure on bh than vivax? unless it's ego lol >< the literal only reason i have to hesitate on vivax is a poor one at best, but it's enough to make me not want to lynch him today (in part because i think a waiting game will reveal how true his claim about wanting to change his game truly is). i don't see a similar hesitance in you, and it seems strange that a meta read on vivax that has held true in his last several games would give way to the anti-nuker (who saved you) over a sandroba read? also...i'm just gonna stick with my gut on onegu, i've decided. yes, he's being obnoxious >< but the things that made me think he was mafia still exist, and frankly the <3 thing has crossed from obnoxious to flat-out taunting, which doesn't really make sense to me from a town perspective. even if he's town and 100% convinced i'm scum, why keep it up? if i'm scum it wouldn't even aggravate me...he's my mislynch, after all, in his mind, yeah? as for xata...meh. i have things i want to check that i don't have time for. don't really like him. could settle on him. would prefer onegu/bh in that order. ksc falls slightly behind xata, but i wouldn't lynch him today even as a compromise. onegu bh xata i will lynch or bring me a good case on someone not town. i think i've taken enough time to get as much out of the omgus mentality as i'm likely to get, so...eh | ||
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On May 13 2015 05:50 marvellosity wrote: This isn't a bad reason, it's one that I do agree with to an extent This is not a good case. His continual usage of hearts to annoy rsoultin may be dickish, and it may not be a "towny" thing to do, but it's definitely something a towny CAN do. Like is anyone, including you, Trfel, going to sit here and tell me townies aren't fucking annoying and dickish all the time? I'm usually significantly more dickish as town. I townread rsoultin in Ippo because I thought she was being a cow. Your final paragraph reads as "here's the mafia narrative". Ok, well maybe the town narrative is that he's angry at a rsoultin who he perceives as mafia, no-one else agrees with him, and she's antagonising him? There are 2 lynches that I just introduced where I find it hard to say "the townie motivation is kinda likely". Vivax's play is just SO far off his townplay, it's very very difficult to handwave away. BlazingHand saving me, and jumping on a weak case on sandroba while not entertaining the counterarguments is also very very difficult to handwave away with a town motivation. Note: I'm not trying to say Onegu is definitely town here, he may or may not be, but I think lynching him on conjecture is not the right play when we can lynch people with far clearer differentiations 65/76 i'd agree with you that i can be a royal pain in the ass, particularly towards my scumreads, and that alone explains onegu's bs, but frankly i left him alone specifically so i wouldn't turn it into a shit fest and he's still doing the same thing. if you can point out to me what i've posted since i backed off that would encourage him to keep it up, then i'll concede the point. i still think he's mafia for the case i brought against him initially before he turned into an ass so yeah | ||
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@marv On May 12 2015 03:11 rsoultin wrote: 15/60 okay to be more clear why oneg is giving me the icks includes not just a similar take on his tone that marv got but also a couple things that naturally mean more to me than other people -_- - the overexplained everything...he's more the fuck you i'm gonna do what i want type, at least in most of the games i've played with him, though the one newbie game he was more serious which is why i'm trying to get hts' input (i pay less attention than i should when i'm scum lol) - secondly, i recently asked him why he always scumreads me every game. which actually isn't true; it just felt like it recently because of guardians where the twit fake-claimed mason with scum rayn while flaming me all game lol >< couple that with the "obligatory" and it almost seems like he's doing it just to ascribe to "meta" that actually isn't really true anyway, just me being sensitive xP - third, he genuinely believes i'm one of the best people at reading him, yet that's not part of his scumread. it was like the central point of his read when i was scum in student VII (and why he had so much trouble getting people to actually pay attention, i might add). not seeing the OMGUS you always get my alignment right but you're WRONG and therefore SCUM response here. if anything it should be stronger cause i actually did flip scum it's right here. TLDR: - too much emphasis on NOT rolling scum (tone) - reads in one big read post overexplained (specifically, he goes on a litany of why i'm scum that amounts to weaker opinions, then ends with a "mandatory" not-town conclusion instead of a scumread) - his scumread does not incorporate the "meta-points" he used when he correctly identified me as scum in student VII; i'm contesting that if you make meta-points and are right on the alignment, you would assume your meta was correct - deliberate taunting (weakest point) frankly, he could still be town here. i'm aware of that. a lot of it is gut, but i really do believe he's scum i said i want to lynch bh? so that doesn't apply? viva...i just feel if he's town trying to change his meta he'll fail xP so more time seems fine to me. his buried claim is also weighing into this a little. i'm aware it could be faked. but i think it's more likely that it's not given the nature of the claim | ||
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On May 13 2015 06:06 Vivax wrote: I'm VT aka plebeian, you aren't losing much (besides I'd have to be afk the next 1 and a half/two days cause I go camping with a bunch of other people for a birthday party) You know my reads, I don't explain them much, and that's fine cause I've been trying to hard as town in the past. :/ i hope you're town. and then i hope that you feel ashamed of yourself when i'm trying to play things close to the vest -_- meh i obviously agree with marv that trying to change meta is fucking hard...i.e. my spamminess has already caught up with me, but i could see someone succeeding in the beginning -_- eh whatever | ||
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<3 was hoping to get a response back from marv but i'd be happy to lynch bh lol >< viva isn't acting like a scum about to be lynched imo | ||
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On May 13 2015 07:14 LightningStrike wrote: I just checked her filter and she didn't really speak much on what alignment she think Xata is and would prefer her to explain her exact position on Xata right now(The post I saw of her thing about Xata was she might end up voting him but who knows). Anyways I going to vote Xata I think KSC's case on him and other people's thoughts on him are pretty solid and would allow Vivax to live for another day just hope he will step it up. ##Unvote ##Vote: Xatalos i'm lynching bh i don't care about xatalos, really, though i said i could lynch him because i have more reason to believe he's scum than town with his way of just parroting others' reads. perhaps it had to take him literally plucking ksc's read on me up and running with it for me to notice, but whatever. i'd prefer to look through his filter and see if that's a general thing, this stealing of reads and presenting them as his own...i agree that generally speaking the thread sentiment sheepage is real, but his reads i'm more interested. i do not have and will not take the time to verify that before EoD. i'm not lynching xata over bh or onegu damdy, stop being emo. i will always take the opportunity to lynch a strong scumread over a weaker one. this isn't about you (anymore) -_- i don't understand why you did what you did given your reads, but i've been trying to figure out a scum motivation for it and can't come up with any -_- so you're probably just...i dunnae...being illogical as town. i suppose it happens...can't say it doesn't bug me but i don't think you're scum for it thanks for the response, marv. and yeah, i agree in general with what you're saying :/ fortunately. it hadn't really happened before just now which was kinda weird to me | ||
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frankly, unvoting sandroba when voting sandroba can't save you anyway isn't exactly impressive, bh neither is scumreading me based on emoticons. i can kind of believe you think that i have it out for you, because you haven't gotten that i just like to tease you in the past xP (the joke from last post-game, remember?) i find your arrogance amusing and try to mimic it for lolz...my own personal pleasure lol >< you were probably wrong on sandy. you're definitely wrong on me. the unvoting bit is boring; you'd do that anyway to try to avoid the lynch. trying to win...you'd do as either alignment. like nothing you're saying is particularly alignment indicative? i don't want to vote bats or vivax and i know that this means i'm potentially just a big sucker and naive but that's okay xat had a pre-game excuse for his activity...so i guess it's possible he's just sucking activity wise? but frankly, i don't see how having less time makes a player less insightful. just insightful about LESS things. anyway i dunnae bh. i'll be the first to admit i have trouble reading you. the jack-all on day 1 bit is bad play in general. can someone verify he does that in his town games who knows him better? | ||
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On May 13 2015 08:43 Blazinghand wrote: hahaha rsoultin cry all you want, I get to LIVE! You said you'd try to get me lynched no matter what in the next game D1, and guess what? you fuckin failed I hope you're scum 71/76 o.0 that was a joke? dude you have no sense of humor lol >< i told ls i'd never defend him again and multiple people i'm policy lynching them every game, yet i never actually do it? god you're an idiot lol >< | ||
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well, i guess we'll see now if mafia knew the vt flavor \o/ i still highly doubt scum uses that to try to get a read on ls, but whatever. y'all do what you want. i'm not voting for vivax | ||
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what i find remarkable is the batshit crazy people screaming about how quickly the lynch dissolved and reformed on blazinghand, seem perfectly fine with this sudden mass-switch to vivax lol at hts' bidding no less. i have a townread on her that i may have to revisit, but since when has she been the town rally player? | ||
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:/ eh well, i'll actually post something more coherent sometime between now and EoN two posts left so...questions/discussion just you know make it clear you're asking me...i'll address those in a separate post. and i'll try to even write more collegiate for y'all even though it'll look all...high-fluting uppity xP just cause you know...brain cancer accusations and the incessant questions to clarify my reads despite the explanations in my filter >> almost broke my heart there for a moment damdy bueno...random sidebar eden's gb meta that i kinda adore is how frequently he changes his vote as town...like a hyper-active jumping bean who can't make up his mind. i'll revisit his filter but that read has worked fairly well for me in the past and makes me inclined to think he's town here :/ -poofs for the night- | ||
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heh. i've been sitting on things -_- but i'm terrible at sitting on things. firstly, because once ksc explained his read progression on me it actually did make sense (drunk sarcasm/not wanting to engage) and yes I'm leaning town on him now in part because of trfel's meta case, i'll help out the lazy. and yes, i'm going to transition into real sentences for legibility now. what blazinghand is referring to: + Show Spoiler + On May 07 2015 04:53 Blazinghand wrote: /in I'll be bringing my A game as I did in Noir before I was accidentally mislynched. I'm not even starting a new job in the near future! PS: I won't RNG unless it's a good idea On May 07 2015 08:40 rsoultin wrote: lol >> <3 i found my day 1 lynch! xD On May 07 2015 09:44 Blazinghand wrote: bring it on sonny On May 07 2015 10:14 rsoultin wrote: \o/ Obviously I don't have it "out" for Blazinghand. I will say that I'm not a fan of his playstyle and that I have a hard time reading him. As for why I thought he was scum this game, a simple filter dive (which for some reason no one seems interested in doing?) shows my thought process pretty clearly. + Show Spoiler + On May 10 2015 15:50 rsoultin wrote: 4! insomnia says hi! [...] bill murray and blazhinghand maybe looking for reactions? bill murray's entrance uber scummy and too willing to give away the postehs so don't have to post, and blazinghand quite brazenly lying in an easily discoverable way xP [...] On May 11 2015 09:47 rsoultin wrote: lol moronic is a state of being xP not dependent on any particular post of yours, but as for this particular game... sandy already pointed out what you failed to read, unless you think it makes sense for scum to sit there and choose their roles blindly independent of one another. i don't know that the hosts are such jokesters, and frankly i don't care, but obviously your list post was worthless anyway because according to you scum has already won not to mention you failed to read closely enough to even divide your categories properly bring something worth discussing or go away. tiresome one [...] On May 11 2015 10:00 rsoultin wrote: lol the idea is by definition wrong if you have more scum than town it's okay though. i <3 morons (i also speak bh \o/) not everyone can be expected to understand simple logicwho should we lynch, tonto? On May 12 2015 02:25 rsoultin wrote: [...] still think truffle is town so it's hard for me to see scum saving a townie but at the same time...i didn't really like bh's reasoning at all. truffle got mad so he's town? then why ask truffle why he should save him, then base his reasoning not on the answer but on truffle's initial reaction? that's bugging me more than it should maybe >< i dunnae. how likely is it for scum to save town here for towncred? i'm assuming he has multiple anti-nukes... On May 12 2015 03:40 rsoultin wrote: 17/60 [...] could lynch rol palmar honestly though it's kinda plynch-level for me, not sure why bh is town hero though...you don't find how he did the anti-nuke thing weird at all? like literally i'm townreading truffle and STILL have problems with it lol >< maybe i'm way off-base dunnae but it's just so...weird. like bh isn't being like him at all...not sure if it's cause it's a ver game or what but the closest he got to what i'd expect from him is saying i'm too stupid to understand his mad plays \o/ [...] On May 12 2015 05:11 rsoultin wrote: 21/60 i should really f5...less inclined to lynch bh now :/ though i'd still like you to explain your thought process on truffle cause it's still hella weird and yeah probably literally not going to look at this game again until tomorrow morning gonna run out of posts blah On May 13 2015 08:42 rsoultin wrote: 70/76 frankly, unvoting sandroba when voting sandroba can't save you anyway isn't exactly impressive, bh neither is scumreading me based on emoticons. i can kind of believe you think that i have it out for you, because you haven't gotten that i just like to tease you in the past xP (the joke from last post-game, remember?) i find your arrogance amusing and try to mimic it for lolz...my own personal pleasure lol >< you were probably wrong on sandy. you're definitely wrong on me. the unvoting bit is boring; you'd do that anyway to try to avoid the lynch. trying to win...you'd do as either alignment. like nothing you're saying is particularly alignment indicative? i don't want to vote bats or vivax and i know that this means i'm potentially just a big sucker and naive but that's okay xat had a pre-game excuse for his activity...so i guess it's possible he's just sucking activity wise? but frankly, i don't see how having less time makes a player less insightful. just insightful about LESS things. anyway i dunnae bh. i'll be the first to admit i have trouble reading you. the jack-all on day 1 bit is bad play in general. can someone verify he does that in his town games who knows him better? I was actually reading him town initially, because he was flaunting the fact that he was lying in thread about a broken computer by posting in our Community thread about playing some sort of game. I forget which. Probably Dota. Thus I figured maybe he was looking for reactions to get reads on people. By the end of N0 he was in my nullish category for lack of anything to really read him on. Then he posted his town/scum lists based on the pretty queer hypothesis that scum didn't know each other yet. I can see where he got it from if he's town, given Hapahauli's post, however it defies logic and as such I didn't find it impressive (not to mention he clearly didn't read people closely enough, because his categories weren't even right by his own criteria), but notably I did not think he was scum for it, just being illogical. And yes, I called him a moron and started talking down to him as a joke, imitating his way of talking to people. As I've said before, I find it amusing how he talks and it's something of a guilty pleasure to posture to him while mimicking him. What's mafia without having a little fun? My first real suspicion of Blazinghand started when he used his anti-nuke on a townread of mine, ironically. Why? Because he took the time to ask Trfel why Trfel thought that he deserved to be saved, which implies that he was still trying to determine Trfel's alignment. Yet his reason for saving Trfel was simply that Trfel was angry about being nuked? Then why ask the question if he'd already decided that was enough to make Trfel town? It was strange, and although I asked Blazinghand about it (directly and indirectly) he never clarified. (Also, just going to put this out there: Trfel is someone I am exceedingly good at reading, and typically disagree with a lot of people on (i.e. Noir 3, Student Mafia V, Newbie Mini Mafia LXI, etc. in my profile, I tend to read him right and early). Perhaps it's arrogance, but I don't actually expect people to townread (or scumread) him as soon or as accurately as me, based on past experience. Objectively Trfel had done nothing terribly townie at that point. I read him on tone.) An explanation would not be complete without the moment of doubt. I had Blazinghand as scum in my mind and was ready to lynch him with the Marvellosity nuke, before he came in and shot that down, too. At first, that made me think that maybe he could be town, given some of Marvellosity's recent posting (namely the being dickish which he himself admits is a towntell of his) suggested town to me. As he continued to do nothing or weigh in on anything, however, I became increasingly convinced that he was scum riding that fun anti-nuke towncred. As I noted in the final post while he was flailing around in an attempt to avoid getting lynched, nothing he was saying at the time was really alignment-indicative. He wanted to "win", to "not get lynched". Okay? Scum wants the same things. He changed his read on sandroba. Okay? He needed to unvote sandroba anyway to save himself. He may have spewed a lot of words, but I fail to see what was so impressive about them. Bonus: Vivax was town for a few clear reasons. First, he knew the vanilla VT flavor. Yes, I am claiming vanilla VT because frankly it has to be damn obvious by now. Vivax first brought up that he was a "pleb" talking to LightningStrike, which to me looked like he was trying to get a read on LS...it definitely would mean nothing to anyone who wasn't VT, him claiming that. I even checked prior Ver games to be sure this flavor hadn't been used before. Since this didn't come at a time when a scum Vivax would be likely to ask the hosts for a fake claim, I accepted it on faith. Additionally, his reaction to being wagoned was excessively townie. He did not panic. He started dumping reads for after his flip. If there was a sense of panic with the reads dump, it would not have been alignment indicative, but he clearly wanted his thoughts in thread before he died and didn't care about the lynch itself. Anyone scumreading him after that, frankly, just cannot read tone or is scum. I would never, ever vote Vivax over Blazinghand Day One because of how sure I was that Vivax was town. Plain and simple. Now does everyone understand why I do not usually play this way? I am writing novels and people are unlikely to read novels. At least my thought process should be excessively clear this way. Now...because I need to finish my term papers and do not want to forget...I do have a crappy association element involved in my read on Blazinghand: Marvellosity did not react to being nuked. It took me awhile to really notice this, but Marvellosity, who flames people for scumreading him when he's town and loses his shit did not react to being nuked. That suggests to me that the nuke would not succeed. He also did not flame me for scumreading him early, but instead criticized (I believe) Oatsmaster (could be OWS if my memory is failing me) for defending him. This is a very rational response since he didn't look town at all early game however Marvellosity is typically not rational at all about being scumread. I've had a townread on Bill Murray for awhile. Some of it is tone. Some of it is I liked the thought process going into some of his reads (whether I agreed with it or not). That left Blazinghand. Why is Marvellosity not afraid of the nuke? Not angry about it? Blazinghand will anti-nuke it. And he did. Now, admittedly recently it occurred to me that Blazinghand possibly could be town (despite his complete lack of contributions to Day One while riding that towncred) and scum simply has an anti-nuke role, too. It is highly likely that scum could have such a role for obvious reasons. Add on to this that Marvellosity started a train on Blazinghand, then came back in and switched for very poor reasons back to Vivax, despite stating earlier that Vivax looked better than both Xatalos and Blazinghand. Even if we accept that a "baked" Marvellosity really thought that Blazinghand's posting looked so good at EoD, where did the Xatalos read go? Apparently it fell off the face of the earth. I still am highly suspicious of Marvellosity and Blazinghand for the above-stated reasons. I choose to post this now because I want to make sure this gets into the thread in case I don't have time for full reads, as I really need to get my schoolwork done. To round out my current scumreads, Xatalos looks terrible by association, and I think that Damdred's read on him is probably correct given past history (Carol). I also noticed how he seems to pluck up others' reads, not just thread sentiment. (KelsierSC's read on me is one example.) Lastly, Onegu. Independent of everyone else, on tone and familiarity with him (note his complete lack of presence at EoD?) I still strongly believe that he is scum. But honestly he probably is not high-priority compared to the others. I do not have a fifth scum. I have plenty of townreads or leans, but I imagine the fifth is somewhere in the lurkers that are currently impossible to read. lol! that was way too long a post >< please don't make me be all serious and wordy again ;o; i much prefer sarcasm | ||
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On May 13 2015 23:42 marvellosity wrote: rsoultin, are you suggesting that with a town-Vivax leading the votes by quite some margin, I decide to create and repeatedly push a wagon on my scumbuddy for some reason? 76/76 I wasn't going to use my last post for this but :/ meh. At least then I won't be distracted by the game lol. I'm more suspicious of you than Blazinghand, actually. I think your reaction to the nuke and your behavior around EoD is highly suspicious. Whether that's because I'm wrong on Bill Murray, Blazinghand is a scum anti-nuker, or there's another anti-nuker hiding somewhere in the ranks, doesn't really matter. The baked thing is kind of convenient but I've never seen you use that excuse before in any of the games we've played together. The Xatalos read flat-out disappeared when you returned to the thread. Quite simply, following a logical train of thought on the presumption that I am right on both you and Blazinghand, you pushed a lynch on your scum buddy to be able to say that you pushed a lynch on your scum buddy if he eventually flipped. You did not follow through. Now why could that be? Yes, that looks scummy. You usually do not do obviously scummy things as scum...you're usually aware of how you look. However, if Blazinghand flips scum you and Trfel will immediately come under suspicion. So yes, I think it's quite possible for you to both push him and then go out of your way to protect him, despite how bad it looks, if you are scum together. It is quite feasible and certainly not reason enough to clear either of you. Bats is town because Vivax is town. Filter dive him VE. Bats thought sandroba was scum because sandroba kept pushing him after the claim. I asked him how realistic that was because, obviously, not all town are vanilla town anyway. Sandroba is also likely town for many reasons. Sorry, Palmar...I'm leaning town on you but I don't agree on your sandroba read He also recognized what bats was talking about. Yes, I've been using bats and vivax to get some reads of my own lolThis was my last post. The sadness. GB Trfel Damdred HTS Bats Sandroba I'm pretty sure are town here. Town leans on Palmar Yamato (he's falling because I actually didn't really like his behavior around EoD either, odd as that sounds; he just seemed too sure. however there's a very good reason he might be sure, which would be the same reason i was sure, so i'll keep him in my town leans) OWS (tonal. i can't explain it. it's just a feeling and shouldn't be taken too seriously) LS (though honestly I'm a little disturbed by his lack of contribution lately and maybe he should be dropped back to null) those i haven't explicitly mentioned as scum and don't appear on this list are null...or i forgot them :/ which probably means they're null anyway. VE, I just don't know you well enough to read you, sorry | ||
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i forgot ksc in my pretty sure they're town list :/ now i feel ashamed VE, it was bats' filter i wanted you to look at, not vivax's also lol >< town!palmar pure tone he just makes me laugh >< marv, i don't really care if you don't think it's that likely that you and bh are scum together. that doesn't say why you're not scum or why he isn't, and i've already acknowledged that i could be wrong on him. i even could be wrong on bm but i just don't think so -shrugs- regardless you missed the part where even if bm is scum i still think you're scum xP -does the i caught a scumlet! dance- the thing about your xata read dear since you like using that word xP is that after you said you were feeling better about xata, you went on to say xata was a better lynch than vivax -shrugs- and no matter what you say the lack of reaction to the nuke is weird strange not town you knew it either wasn't real or wasn't going to hit okay okay last post probably don't want to like flood this place | ||
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On May 14 2015 01:30 marvellosity wrote: I caught a scum and he launched a retaliatory nuke at me. Usually I get mad at townies doing retarded things ^^ Plus I already knew BH was an anti-nuker, and if BH was going to shoot Trfel's nuke down and not mine, then I really would be speechless. And I think you can grasp that that doesn't even depend on BH's alignment, so it doesn't matter. Save your scumlet dance for when you actually catch a scum. Dear. dear. Oh dear. = no reaction at all cool xP if i'm wrong i'll apologize later but...not highly believable i'd still react i'd be like lol!fail \o/ and do little happy taunting dances at the scumlet shooting nukes at me granted, you're not as fun as me xP but you are a bit of a sarcastic one; i'd expect at least a snark noooooo reaction. not grrr. not taunt. not lol odd odd odd not going to argue with my scumread town!marv should find me the real scum though <3 | ||
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On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote: Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to... A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game. Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is... This isnt a LS town game. @rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point. 79/79 Someone bothered to read it! \o/ Blazinghand and to a lesser extent VE clearly didn't, but that's okay. I realize that um...reading is like, hard. And stuff. Apparently. Or I'm just boring when I'm not giving people head cancer. Why don't you actually give some reads? I'm bored with your wrong scumread on me, and I already have LS as my weakest townlean for practically the same reason you just cited, so that's boring, too. Do you have anything new? Lots of stuff happened, but you're not talking about any of it? Do you have any comments about the content of the novel I wrote regarding Marvellosity and Blazinghand, or are you just going to pick a random sentence to demonstrate that you read it? I'm willing to keep trying to figure out your alignment. I'm not convinced that you're trying to figure out mine at all. You may be a tunneled town (you've done it with me before) but if so...can you pretend for a moment that you might be wrong and discuss this game with me so that if I'm wrong I can move on to real scum? Please and thank you! | ||
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On May 14 2015 03:37 Onegu wrote: You dont know how I play yet I focus in on what I find interesting. Right now thats you and LS. LS looks much worse then you now though. 80/84 Yeah, I don't even understand your scumread on me, frankly xP It's like you decided at some point early on in the game that I was scum come hell or high water lol. Which is a little...okay, this isn't a nice word, but retarded, frankly. I know you suck at reading me sometimes, but this game you're taking it to an extreme. Onegu, dude, you can't just ignore 80% of the game and expect me to townread you for it when you claim to be actually trying. The majority of the world actually, you know, pays attention to what is going on and has opinions on it. If this is your genuine serious way of playing, you should probably consider approaching the game differently or sticking to the just playing around, because I can't find a reason to townread you beyond...well maybe he could actually be this bad -_- Which is not the way that I like to approach reads. Don't let me stop you from poking at LS, though. If you actually have questions for me I'd appreciate if you asked them, yeah? | ||
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On May 14 2015 04:02 Blazinghand wrote: 3/15 Table of Contents (with links!) (link) Calling out Rso (link) Batsnacks Convo (link) RE: Gb's read on BM (link) BASICALLY A MONDO CASE ON GLOWINGBEAR resoultin I read it. Your stated read is that scumread me because I was inactive, despite the fact that I shot down nukes that you thought were a good idea to be shot down. It was actually WAY more legible than your usual post, and I think you for putting effort into it. The fact that you were willing to produce a post that wasn't punctuated with weird emoticons makes me less likely to scumread you for intentional obfuscation of yrou posts. In regards to what you consider joking or not, the fact of the matter is that you're either bad or scum, and when you try to make yourself legible like this, the third possibility (which is that you're actually good) shines through. Keep up the good work. I haven't had time to read your filter, becasue reading your writing is actually pretty awful usually, but I'll get around to you. Keep on claiming you're joking, though. That's a classic. The fact of the matter is, your reads on me are shit. They've always been shit, and it looks like unless you are wililng to learn from experience, or like actually read meta when you make or accept meta reads, they always will be. I'm sure you're a capable player in your own way, though. Here's what I want from you, rsoultin. For the rest of your game, post in a way that's comprehensible to other players. Every time you write a post that's mostly waffling, "..."s and smileys, or trying to make your reads seem non-serious or generally nonsensical, I will ignore that post except to note that it seems scummy (in effect, this is how some players already treat your posts. I was talking to some guy earlier, I think KSC? who legit was almost scumreading you, becasue of how you strcuture things). If you communicate in a responsible way, you can expect responsible communication from me. Otherwise, if you act like garbage, I'll treat you like the trash you are and take you out. Batsnacks Given that sandro only got like 1 or 2 not-me votes, your question doens't seem relevant. When I vote people for survival purposes, I generally announce that I'm doing so (as I did with Vivax). For some reason people like to think this is a scumtell, and almost wagoned back on to me for being honest about it. I don't hide my motivations from the town about these things. In any case, I voted Sandro cause Palmar voted him, and that's basically it. Palmar is usually right. When Sandro actually investigated my meta and like, did reading (he was literally the only person who bothered) I unvoted him. There's no way scum would bother ACTUALLY doing research about the case when literally nobody else was researching my meta, just making stupid uninformed statements about it. He had no reason to do that as scum, so I unvoted him. I trusted my own read more than Palmar's. Palmar apparently is now townreading Sandro also, so I feel pretty good about that. Nice try dojjing my questions though. What's the deal with the Sandro read? THE PARDON and GB's thoughts on BM: Nothing suspicious here, just some obesrvations and questions Hey Stutters, I'm sure you've got a lot on your plate, but I'd like to hear a bit more on your thoughts about THE PARDON. Let's talk about the Pardon. note: GB Pardoned BM, in this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24247342 basically, he's like "BM is town, don't lynch him" and pardons him, after both nukes and anti-nukes. This is pretty fitting with his hard defense of Bill (link) though it's worth noting he wavers(link) before later making up his mind that he will save Bill (link) after there's an outpouring of people giving BM posts (an outpouring that was never given to me in my time of need; my warning and censure is a result of that. if you get mad that my posts are super consolidated / long that's because you didn't give me posts yesterday. Give me some at the start of D2 and I will be more conversational) I'd also like to note that this is pretty hilarious. You won't let the evidence get in yoru way GB???? Also, GB seems to have a major boner for getting me to give some kind of read on the essentially illegible BM: Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, after BM was pardoned D1, it may not have been the worst idea to kill him, just cause he'd be a pain in the discourse. The no flip, though. that fuckin noflip gets me good because even though BM was probably town, if he was scum I'd be on e-z street collecting all mah towncred GB's thoughts on Blazinghand and weird EoD activity D1 Ok, getting a bit off topic here. I guess GB really had a described townread on Bill Murray. GB, I'd be interested to hear more from you about this. Clearly you were townreading Bill Murray hard, then you said there's no way we're lynching him, then when we tried, you PARDONED him. So here's an interesting question for you, GB. You very accurately pointed out it's pretty much impossible that BM and I would be on a scumteam together. It would be the hieght of stupidity for hte scumteam to waste two nukes AND two anti-nukes in such a fashion. It seems that even after BM got no-flip vigied, you're pretty confident he's town (not that tehre's anything wrong with that). You pardoned him. You gave him votes. You fought for him. And when people pointed out the possbility of weird things with his alignment (like Oats' suggestion of a BM BH scumteam) you pointed out the various flaws there. That's all fine, but I'm confused in how that plays in with your read of me. Your only actual vote of me was literally because you didn't want to vote with Marv (link) and otherwise your posting about me has been a little confused, to say the least. You scumread me for a strange reason here: when, there was like 20 seconds of me hesitating to save marv. wtheck dude, I didn't actually ask Palm's permission, IWas like "hey palm what should I do" since he has good reads then I was like "fuck it, I'll save marv". Now maybe your theory is I saved marv because like, I'm scum with him. Sure. But why the weird Palm permission thing that's obviously literally false? Then, starting after the Pardon you keep on asking people to lynch me without writing a case (link) (link) before voting Oats for reasons that you don't super elaborate until like, tonight (link) though of course you mention the inconrguities earlier. So at this point, you've scumread me and made vague efforts to form a lynch on me, and scumread oats and voted him. Then the vivax wagon collapses and everyone starts voting me, who is one of your scumreads. At this moment, people are unvoting vivax and voting me. This is after you say, To marv, and This is all very strange. Let me summarize my confusion on GB: So, to be clear, your first mention of vivax is like "why are vivax or xat better lynches??". Half the Sky responds with a SUPER lackluster case (link) which you never respond to, and then you're like "I'm only voting Vivax or Oats" about 6 hours later with no explanation (link) AT ALL. Okay, fine, whatever. And then, when people jump off the Vivax wagon and onto me, your fllip the FUCK out (link) DESPITE the fact that your'e also scumreading me apparently, so I guess I'm town now? Or maybe you mistrust the shenannies, I guess. But then, when people move BACK onto Vivax, who you reallyw anted to lynch over me, your other scumread, you vote me, the guy who you were really mad people were wagoning onto, on the basis of "not voting with marv" (link). So, I'm really confused here, GlowingBear. It seems like the obvious explanation here is that you're scum and wanted to seem frantic and cause confusion around the deadline as town waflled between two townies. However, maybe there's some actual thought process that coudl explain your actions right a deadline? Maybe some reasoning as to why you flipped out when people moved off of your vivax scumread and onto me? Was I not a scumread of yours, or was I? When people voted me, you were worried, but then when they voted vivax, you switched to me, despite being only willing to vote oats or vivax. Before you make up a 81/84 Frankly, no. xD Some random townie once told me, I refuse to be intimidated or threatened! Do you realize how fucking ridiculous it would be for me to write posts like that constantly? The majority of this site can look at my meta and not be complete shit players and realize that I'm town despite the emoticons and the jumping around. This is how I play. This is my meta which actually, you should be quite familiar with given how many games you've hosted with me in them. I refuse...to do...what you...refuse...to do. I refuse...to play differently...just because...you're threatening...to lynch me. I wrote that post expressly for the purposes of making it easier for people to follow me that one time, and while I may consider changing how I play in the future, I will not be strong-armed. Threatened. Intimidated. You may lynch me, but you will just prove how scum or shit you are, and how little awareness you actually have of the thread. So bring it on. I'm graduating this weekend and I could care less for once if y'all mislynch me. You think you're good enough to get the world to follow you on a mislynch of a clear, obvious, practically confirmed (if you were reading at all) town? Maybe you are. You're great at bullshitting, and maybe you'd even believe it. However, if you're town and trying to win you'd drop this bullshit trying to force me to play differently and actually find scum. You yourself said that I am one of the most universally townread players on this site on a regular basis, a standard Night One (let me add Night Two/medic save xP) night kill because it's just so obvious. So are you now honestly admitting to being worse than practically the entirety of TL Mafia at identifying obvious townies? lolol >< Please. Do. Try to lynch me. 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-facedesks- I give up I'm just gonna go back to my regular play lol >< -dances on a table- bats is town! bh is dumb! (and when you see how dumb you are i will lolololol) gb is town! bh is dumb! bh is dumb or scum! talkingdead, of course my giant posts look different xP that's the point. i never post that way lol >< i am town! you all are dumb! and bh admits to wanting to lynch a tooooownie just because he doesn't like how she plaaaaaays -dances on the table some more- (legitimately, td, if i've got facts wrong you should bring it up...i did filter dive but a lot of that is from memory :/) | ||
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END OF NIGHT POST ##give last post to GB Please don't give me any more posts, guys lol >< OWS is right I'm just...well not shit-fighting with everyone; that's an exaggeration. But spamming and shit-fighting with BH definitely lol >< I'd like to say I have good enough self-control but obviously that's not the case. + Show Spoiler + On May 13 2015 23:38 rsoultin wrote: 75/76 heh. i've been sitting on things -_- but i'm terrible at sitting on things. firstly, because once ksc explained his read progression on me it actually did make sense (drunk sarcasm/not wanting to engage) and yes I'm leaning town on him now in part because of trfel's meta case, i'll help out the lazy. and yes, i'm going to transition into real sentences for legibility now. what blazinghand is referring to: + Show Spoiler + On May 07 2015 04:53 Blazinghand wrote: /in I'll be bringing my A game as I did in Noir before I was accidentally mislynched. I'm not even starting a new job in the near future! PS: I won't RNG unless it's a good idea On May 07 2015 08:40 rsoultin wrote: lol >> <3 i found my day 1 lynch! xD On May 07 2015 09:44 Blazinghand wrote: bring it on sonny On May 07 2015 10:14 rsoultin wrote: \o/ Obviously I don't have it "out" for Blazinghand. I will say that I'm not a fan of his playstyle and that I have a hard time reading him. As for why I thought he was scum this game, a simple filter dive (which for some reason no one seems interested in doing?) shows my thought process pretty clearly. + Show Spoiler + On May 10 2015 15:50 rsoultin wrote: 4! insomnia says hi! [...] bill murray and blazhinghand maybe looking for reactions? bill murray's entrance uber scummy and too willing to give away the postehs so don't have to post, and blazinghand quite brazenly lying in an easily discoverable way xP [...] On May 11 2015 09:47 rsoultin wrote: lol moronic is a state of being xP not dependent on any particular post of yours, but as for this particular game... sandy already pointed out what you failed to read, unless you think it makes sense for scum to sit there and choose their roles blindly independent of one another. i don't know that the hosts are such jokesters, and frankly i don't care, but obviously your list post was worthless anyway because according to you scum has already won not to mention you failed to read closely enough to even divide your categories properly bring something worth discussing or go away. tiresome one [...] On May 11 2015 10:00 rsoultin wrote: lol the idea is by definition wrong if you have more scum than town it's okay though. i <3 morons (i also speak bh \o/) not everyone can be expected to understand simple logicwho should we lynch, tonto? On May 12 2015 02:25 rsoultin wrote: [...] still think truffle is town so it's hard for me to see scum saving a townie but at the same time...i didn't really like bh's reasoning at all. truffle got mad so he's town? then why ask truffle why he should save him, then base his reasoning not on the answer but on truffle's initial reaction? that's bugging me more than it should maybe >< i dunnae. how likely is it for scum to save town here for towncred? i'm assuming he has multiple anti-nukes... On May 12 2015 03:40 rsoultin wrote: 17/60 [...] could lynch rol palmar honestly though it's kinda plynch-level for me, not sure why bh is town hero though...you don't find how he did the anti-nuke thing weird at all? like literally i'm townreading truffle and STILL have problems with it lol >< maybe i'm way off-base dunnae but it's just so...weird. like bh isn't being like him at all...not sure if it's cause it's a ver game or what but the closest he got to what i'd expect from him is saying i'm too stupid to understand his mad plays \o/ [...] On May 12 2015 05:11 rsoultin wrote: 21/60 i should really f5...less inclined to lynch bh now :/ though i'd still like you to explain your thought process on truffle cause it's still hella weird and yeah probably literally not going to look at this game again until tomorrow morning gonna run out of posts blah On May 13 2015 08:42 rsoultin wrote: 70/76 frankly, unvoting sandroba when voting sandroba can't save you anyway isn't exactly impressive, bh neither is scumreading me based on emoticons. i can kind of believe you think that i have it out for you, because you haven't gotten that i just like to tease you in the past xP (the joke from last post-game, remember?) i find your arrogance amusing and try to mimic it for lolz...my own personal pleasure lol >< you were probably wrong on sandy. you're definitely wrong on me. the unvoting bit is boring; you'd do that anyway to try to avoid the lynch. trying to win...you'd do as either alignment. like nothing you're saying is particularly alignment indicative? i don't want to vote bats or vivax and i know that this means i'm potentially just a big sucker and naive but that's okay xat had a pre-game excuse for his activity...so i guess it's possible he's just sucking activity wise? but frankly, i don't see how having less time makes a player less insightful. just insightful about LESS things. anyway i dunnae bh. i'll be the first to admit i have trouble reading you. the jack-all on day 1 bit is bad play in general. can someone verify he does that in his town games who knows him better? I was actually reading him town initially, because he was flaunting the fact that he was lying in thread about a broken computer by posting in our Community thread about playing some sort of game. I forget which. Probably Dota. Thus I figured maybe he was looking for reactions to get reads on people. By the end of N0 he was in my nullish category for lack of anything to really read him on. Then he posted his town/scum lists based on the pretty queer hypothesis that scum didn't know each other yet. I can see where he got it from if he's town, given Hapahauli's post, however it defies logic and as such I didn't find it impressive (not to mention he clearly didn't read people closely enough, because his categories weren't even right by his own criteria), but notably I did not think he was scum for it, just being illogical. And yes, I called him a moron and started talking down to him as a joke, imitating his way of talking to people. As I've said before, I find it amusing how he talks and it's something of a guilty pleasure to posture to him while mimicking him. What's mafia without having a little fun? My first real suspicion of Blazinghand started when he used his anti-nuke on a townread of mine, ironically. Why? Because he took the time to ask Trfel why Trfel thought that he deserved to be saved, which implies that he was still trying to determine Trfel's alignment. Yet his reason for saving Trfel was simply that Trfel was angry about being nuked? Then why ask the question if he'd already decided that was enough to make Trfel town? It was strange, and although I asked Blazinghand about it (directly and indirectly) he never clarified. (Also, just going to put this out there: Trfel is someone I am exceedingly good at reading, and typically disagree with a lot of people on (i.e. Noir 3, Student Mafia V, Newbie Mini Mafia LXI, etc. in my profile, I tend to read him right and early). Perhaps it's arrogance, but I don't actually expect people to townread (or scumread) him as soon or as accurately as me, based on past experience. Objectively Trfel had done nothing terribly townie at that point. I read him on tone.) An explanation would not be complete without the moment of doubt. I had Blazinghand as scum in my mind and was ready to lynch him with the Marvellosity nuke, before he came in and shot that down, too. At first, that made me think that maybe he could be town, given some of Marvellosity's recent posting (namely the being dickish which he himself admits is a towntell of his) suggested town to me. As he continued to do nothing or weigh in on anything, however, I became increasingly convinced that he was scum riding that fun anti-nuke towncred. As I noted in the final post while he was flailing around in an attempt to avoid getting lynched, nothing he was saying at the time was really alignment-indicative. He wanted to "win", to "not get lynched". Okay? Scum wants the same things. He changed his read on sandroba. Okay? He needed to unvote sandroba anyway to save himself. He may have spewed a lot of words, but I fail to see what was so impressive about them. Bonus: Vivax was town for a few clear reasons. First, he knew the vanilla VT flavor. Yes, I am claiming vanilla VT because frankly it has to be damn obvious by now. Vivax first brought up that he was a "pleb" talking to LightningStrike, which to me looked like he was trying to get a read on LS...it definitely would mean nothing to anyone who wasn't VT, him claiming that. I even checked prior Ver games to be sure this flavor hadn't been used before. Since this didn't come at a time when a scum Vivax would be likely to ask the hosts for a fake claim, I accepted it on faith. Additionally, his reaction to being wagoned was excessively townie. He did not panic. He started dumping reads for after his flip. If there was a sense of panic with the reads dump, it would not have been alignment indicative, but he clearly wanted his thoughts in thread before he died and didn't care about the lynch itself. Anyone scumreading him after that, frankly, just cannot read tone or is scum. I would never, ever vote Vivax over Blazinghand Day One because of how sure I was that Vivax was town. Plain and simple. Now does everyone understand why I do not usually play this way? I am writing novels and people are unlikely to read novels. At least my thought process should be excessively clear this way. Now...because I need to finish my term papers and do not want to forget...I do have a crappy association element involved in my read on Blazinghand: Marvellosity did not react to being nuked. It took me awhile to really notice this, but Marvellosity, who flames people for scumreading him when he's town and loses his shit did not react to being nuked. That suggests to me that the nuke would not succeed. He also did not flame me for scumreading him early, but instead criticized (I believe) Oatsmaster (could be OWS if my memory is failing me) for defending him. This is a very rational response since he didn't look town at all early game however Marvellosity is typically not rational at all about being scumread. I've had a townread on Bill Murray for awhile. Some of it is tone. Some of it is I liked the thought process going into some of his reads (whether I agreed with it or not). That left Blazinghand. Why is Marvellosity not afraid of the nuke? Not angry about it? Blazinghand will anti-nuke it. And he did. Now, admittedly recently it occurred to me that Blazinghand possibly could be town (despite his complete lack of contributions to Day One while riding that towncred) and scum simply has an anti-nuke role, too. It is highly likely that scum could have such a role for obvious reasons. Add on to this that Marvellosity started a train on Blazinghand, then came back in and switched for very poor reasons back to Vivax, despite stating earlier that Vivax looked better than both Xatalos and Blazinghand. Even if we accept that a "baked" Marvellosity really thought that Blazinghand's posting looked so good at EoD, where did the Xatalos read go? Apparently it fell off the face of the earth. I still am highly suspicious of Marvellosity and Blazinghand for the above-stated reasons. I choose to post this now because I want to make sure this gets into the thread in case I don't have time for full reads, as I really need to get my schoolwork done. To round out my current scumreads, Xatalos looks terrible by association, and I think that Damdred's read on him is probably correct given past history (Carol). I also noticed how he seems to pluck up others' reads, not just thread sentiment. (KelsierSC's read on me is one example.) Lastly, Onegu. Independent of everyone else, on tone and familiarity with him (note his complete lack of presence at EoD?) I still strongly believe that he is scum. But honestly he probably is not high-priority compared to the others. I do not have a fifth scum. I have plenty of townreads or leans, but I imagine the fifth is somewhere in the lurkers that are currently impossible to read. lol! that was way too long a post >< please don't make me be all serious and wordy again ;o; i much prefer sarcasm On May 13 2015 23:59 rsoultin wrote: 76/76 I wasn't going to use my last post for this but :/ meh. At least then I won't be distracted by the game lol. I'm more suspicious of you than Blazinghand, actually. I think your reaction to the nuke and your behavior around EoD is highly suspicious. Whether that's because I'm wrong on Bill Murray, Blazinghand is a scum anti-nuker, or there's another anti-nuker hiding somewhere in the ranks, doesn't really matter. The baked thing is kind of convenient but I've never seen you use that excuse before in any of the games we've played together. The Xatalos read flat-out disappeared when you returned to the thread. Quite simply, following a logical train of thought on the presumption that I am right on both you and Blazinghand, you pushed a lynch on your scum buddy to be able to say that you pushed a lynch on your scum buddy if he eventually flipped. You did not follow through. Now why could that be? Yes, that looks scummy. You usually do not do obviously scummy things as scum...you're usually aware of how you look. However, if Blazinghand flips scum you and Trfel will immediately come under suspicion. So yes, I think it's quite possible for you to both push him and then go out of your way to protect him, despite how bad it looks, if you are scum together. It is quite feasible and certainly not reason enough to clear either of you. Bats is town because Vivax is town. Filter dive him VE. Bats thought sandroba was scum because sandroba kept pushing him after the claim. I asked him how realistic that was because, obviously, not all town are vanilla town anyway. Sandroba is also likely town for many reasons. Sorry, Palmar...I'm leaning town on you but I don't agree on your sandroba read He also recognized what bats was talking about. Yes, I've been using bats and vivax to get some reads of my own lolThis was my last post. The sadness. GB Trfel Damdred HTS Bats Sandroba I'm pretty sure are town here. Town leans on Palmar Yamato (he's falling because I actually didn't really like his behavior around EoD either, odd as that sounds; he just seemed too sure. however there's a very good reason he might be sure, which would be the same reason i was sure, so i'll keep him in my town leans) OWS (tonal. i can't explain it. it's just a feeling and shouldn't be taken too seriously) LS (though honestly I'm a little disturbed by his lack of contribution lately and maybe he should be dropped back to null) those i haven't explicitly mentioned as scum and don't appear on this list are null...or i forgot them :/ which probably means they're null anyway. VE, I just don't know you well enough to read you, sorry I can't force people to read my posts, but please do if you want to know where my head's at. I even wrote them less cancer-y. Most of these reads are already explained in them. The names in the categories are in no particular order. Solid Town GB Trfel Damdred HTS KSC Bats Sandroba Town leans Palmar Yamato OWS lightningstrike Nullish (this one is in order from well nullish-town to nullish-scum) jat VE stutters ROL oats TD BH - i dunnae on this one lol i think he could react this way as either alignment, honestly, but he has a higher chance of being town than my other scumreads Scum Marv Xata Oneg woot \o/ I'm done lol (apologies for being so all over the place...even though i kinda always am :/ so i don't know that this will ever change) | ||
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Well, I'm bad. No surprise there lol >< re: Palmar Random sidebar comment...kinda getting a town vibe off Blazinghand now -_- because...eh. I'm a sucker for rational posting, basically. (Plus I think I misunderstood one of his posts where I went off on him hrumhrum). | ||
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On May 14 2015 10:52 TalkingDead wrote: Which is all the more reason to use it as a policy vig shot. KSC suggesting RoL as the execute is the most sensible thing he's said all game. If it came from town, then maybe they have more. Plus if it came from town then maybe they have more. Idk. Ether way policy shot is good. 2/60 agreed much as i'm like \o/ marv is scum! and i still believe he is, though i need to look at his interactions with palmar...i do remember them being kind of weird but i don't know if that was in a one is scum or both are scum kind of way :/ eh i'm being rambly marv could possibly maybe just slightly be town and until i revisit him i would not want to kill him because he's marv. that is the best way to put it and if anything i think blazinghand actually has a slightly better chance of being town than marv does the people who aren't posting and aren't contributing will always be question marks. it should probably be used as a regular vig shot | ||
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i'd ask bats why he doesn't want to kill jat first...personally i think it's very chivalrous of jat to stand up for obvious town rsoul but that doesn't make him town :/ | ||
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On May 12 2015 03:11 rsoultin wrote: 15/60 okay to be more clear why oneg is giving me the icks includes not just a similar take on his tone that marv got but also a couple things that naturally mean more to me than other people -_- - the overexplained everything...he's more the fuck you i'm gonna do what i want type, at least in most of the games i've played with him, though the one newbie game he was more serious which is why i'm trying to get hts' input (i pay less attention than i should when i'm scum lol) - secondly, i recently asked him why he always scumreads me every game. which actually isn't true; it just felt like it recently because of guardians where the twit fake-claimed mason with scum rayn while flaming me all game lol >< couple that with the "obligatory" and it almost seems like he's doing it just to ascribe to "meta" that actually isn't really true anyway, just me being sensitive xP - third, he genuinely believes i'm one of the best people at reading him, yet that's not part of his scumread. it was like the central point of his read when i was scum in student VII (and why he had so much trouble getting people to actually pay attention, i might add). not seeing the OMGUS you always get my alignment right but you're WRONG and therefore SCUM response here. if anything it should be stronger cause i actually did flip scum this is obviously pretty stale now...but all he really seemed to want to talk about last night was two reads and he hasn't been around today at all since the phase started...i dunnae, i'm kinda in a...i suck at life sorta mood so lol >< i think i need to filter-dive him again at some point just to make sure i'm not insane | ||
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<3? i did say they should wait for bats? you're in my null category. i'm sorry :/ i'm used to you having more of a thread presence as town but that's mostly feeeeeeels when apparently are not good things to rellllyyyyy on lol :/ | ||
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On May 08 2015 23:21 rsoultin wrote: yay pre-game excuses! may 14-19 i have family in and will be out of town for part of it so...yeah, activity will be down course if we start tonight and i'm still alive by then you may want to lynch me anyway lolol >< (though maybe not with this player list xP) 8/50 btw, this is now officially in effect. bro comes in in the next two hours, so yeah i'll be as present as is reasonable who should we lynch, jat? | ||
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On May 14 2015 23:06 justanothertownie wrote: I will just streeeetch my woooords toooo to get on your leeeeevel. One would expect you would be able to townread me. More thread presence in a post restricted game where I already went over the limit by a good margin. <3 my ass 9/50 yeah well lol that would require filter-diving and/or being a clearly better player than i am so \o/ i imagine bats has a reason and i imagine i know what that reason is however i don't recall specifically why he'd think that and i haven't double-checked yet :/ maybe i should. it's not happening right this second though lol | ||
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On May 14 2015 23:08 justanothertownie wrote: Why don't we start with you ungrateful one. 10/50 if you can get it rolling, have fun? it wouldn't help town win, though xP salty i'll check back later. more important things to do lol | ||
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On May 14 2015 23:12 justanothertownie wrote: I am pretty sure I can. Without a problem. 11/50 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz if you've got a real reason i'll address it. otherwise, whatever i'm more interested in you know actual possible scum you want to lynch or thoughts on my initial how the hell are there so many blue claims question but you know you can keep wasting your time that's fine xP it might well be your wincon to lynch me anyway if you can change your opinion that fast over nothing -salutes- | ||
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On May 14 2015 23:17 justanothertownie wrote: I want to lynch you = I want to lynch actual possible scum. 12/50 clearly not ^^ | ||
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On May 14 2015 23:24 justanothertownie wrote: That's all you have to say? I already know about my own brilliance. 14/50 what? you expected more? i think it's hilarious that you may have just shot a townie...and frankly i didn't have much time to play anyway so neener neener neener xP -shakes tail feathers at- | ||
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On May 14 2015 23:28 justanothertownie wrote: Ruuuuuude. Very unlikely that I shot town. I rarely do.I shot mafia 5/6 times as a vig. And that's not counting the one time I was roleblocked while gunning for mafia and the fake vigshot on mafia in aperture. So you are scum by probability. 15/50 except you know the small, perhaps insignificant -cough- fact that i got this lovely role pm that says otherwise xP apart from practically being confirmed town anyway...oh and like the only people who actually think i'm scum are like...onegu lol i hope you're scum and i hope they lynch you for shooting me and that i can laugh from the obs qt after i graduate...an awesome graduation present ^^ and if you're town well...then you're just more stupid than 90% of the players here. enjoy that | ||
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pssssst jat you do realize that pretending you're 100% sure i'm scum will not actually convince people you're not scum when i flip yeah? xP | ||
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i'm obviously town -yawns- you were so sure of it you were all white-knighting wonder! then you don't like that i'm not townreading you and grrrr ise gonna shoot you scum! yeah that's just silly lol | ||
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onto a much more interesting question than whether or not jat's scum or just an imbecile VE says "hey guys, i was in "town" qt with marv, sandy and palmar!" deaths last night - damdred - sandroba - palmar ...oh but marv is conf!town lolol town!marv claimed in qt to scum!palmar and he's not dead...not only is that ridiculously unbelievable, but that VE thinks this makes sense? | ||
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On May 15 2015 00:40 VisceraEyes wrote: Can you maybe sum that up paragraphically? I'm not sure what your problem with what I've posted is. What is unbelievable? 21/50 you know i really can't tell if i just think supremely differently than the rest of the world or i'm speaking swahili you claim that you were in a "mason" qt with marvellosity, flipped scum palmar, and flipped town sandroba, do you not? then scum apparently chooses to kill damdred and sandroba and the conclusion you draw from that is that marvellosity is confirmed town? palmar and marv weren't getting along in thread. palmar is not going to influence marvellosity that way. he should be dead if your story is true. or he's very likely scum yet the conclusion that you draw from it is that scum knows he's a mason and chose not to kill one of the best town players on the site xP | ||
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I don't care if you're scum or not. You could be town and just retarded. If your story is true marvellosity is probably scum. And if it's not marvellosity is almost definitely scum unless you're going for mad plays \o/ xD | ||
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On May 15 2015 00:52 justanothertownie wrote: lol, what's interesting about that? Why on earth would scummarv make a qt with scum Palmar in it? What is the point? Why would scum even have this role? 24/50 mafia assassin -> role claims and that's assuming VE is telling the truth | ||
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marv is awol xP you're also missing the whole, ve can be dumb town and marv can be scum thing | ||
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pppppleeeeaase shoot me so i can flip town and go hang with my family and not have to worry about this game and so maybe people will pay attention to how little sense you're making ve ^^ | ||
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And even td in obs ^^ It's nice to not be completely wrong though tbf td that was contradictions between qt and thrwas lol outside info | ||
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On May 11 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote: you can't read and bh is a moron ^^ yay morons! \o/ can we lynch marv now? First post day one xP | ||
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On May 17 2015 11:15 justanothertownie wrote: rsoul 05-14-2015 03:40 PM ET (US) o.o i find it hard to believe a town jat shoots me here but...eh...who the fuck knows with you guys. you seem to think my scum game is better than it is lol >< This made me laugh pretty hard btw. Lol XP I shoulda known but you know...lots of weird scumreads this game XP It amuses me that shooting me publicly is now a jat mafia suicide strat Lol | ||
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