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You're mad about something, you need to calm down and really think. If something is going on take a breather, and come back later. You will see how illogical and irrational you are being.
Regardless you just stated a bunch of reasons as to why I am town, so thank you for that! Like legit your earlier post you listed a bunch of stuff and I was like wow, that's so town. Then at the end you called me mafia for doing town things; so I am completely okay with everything you said because all of the actions you outlined are what make me town.
also you should give this a read sometime: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=ritoky
i make way more sense and have way more definitive targets as mafia. but keep trying to lynch town, that'll win you the game for sure bud
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the above link is me as town, not my antagonism, and nonstop calling myself confirmed town. it's whatcha call dat? a town tell?
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Looking back over y0su's filter.
He spends a decent bit of D1 questioning and going after -c- for his case against scott. Given how much support -c- has as town even that early in the game it seems like an odd move for scum to push on him, especially a newbie y0su scum.
Not much from him until he posts his list of reads TS quoted earlier. I don't think we should read too much from the order that he posted his reads in, if you look at the order he is clearly going down the list of player in the 2nd post of this thread. A lot of his reads are fairly short and don't have much backing them up, but they are pretty consistent with newbie reads.
y0su spends D2 doing some questioning and putting on a little pressure. Most of it is directed towards SL, who y0su has as more likely scum than stutters.
Spends a fair bit of time in WIFOM territory (in my opinion) trying to find logic behind why Super would have been roleblocked N1.
Rest of his filter is regarding ritoky's CC doc play.
So to follow up on TS's case here, I'm not that sold anymore. Your first point is larely about the order of his reads, unfortunately that is circumstantial, especially given he listed ppl in order of the list in the OP. The most solid link I found in your case about Stutters and y0su being a mafia team is the way that y0su drops his line of questioning. However he does this in other cases too, which doesn't help his case as town but it doesn't help solidify this association between the y0su and Stutters either.
His inactivity thus far today doesn't look great, but I'm not convinced he's the top target for today either.
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vote ritoky go for the sweep.
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tictock im here to answer all your wims and qeustions and to make you not vote town over scu
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ritoky sure isn't doing himself any favors today with the tone he keeps putting out there. I looked through today wondering if he's done much else other than call himself town, and yes he has.
On May 10 2015 10:32 ritoky wrote:I don't really see the big deal in it? Your point is that he is disengaged, has weak reads, not reading the thread, and lackluster? Meh. More interested in the fact that your read on me was so much longer, clear, and developed yet SL is the one who gets scummed...feel like the time devotion should have been the other way around? Let me go try shining's read on for size maybe his is better.
(It's hard to build up a lot over someone posted so little)
On May 10 2015 10:56 ritoky wrote:
just read shining's case on y0su, it is slightly better than TT's on SL. i especially like the part about the prompting stutters for his next target after prp into no follow-up on the matter.
where i run amuck with it is the part where y0su gives his reads. i get the whole part where he separates them in two and how he holds the 2 scum until his second post. there may be something to that, but then i look at the reads. as a new player he gives a full scum read and basically a null read to his 2 teammates? mind you prp probably encouraged bussing on himself in the QT at some point, but that....idk i feel like a newer player would be more apt to TR his other partner than null read them, especially since y0su doesn't seem like he has the capabilities to solo a game going forward. y0su's reads just leave me thinking those aren't his partners....
He is bothering to read what people are putting out there, and responds with fair reasoning. I want to throw scum on him for some of the way's he's acting but I keep looking at him and seeing towny stuff.
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SL what was your thinking behind this lynch order?
Actually I already have auto. kill yosu ritoky tictoc win the game. So ya im not gonna try im an easy townread if you wanna throw the game go for it
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And given ritoky's play today has that changed?
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Oh and kindly LINK me to where you gave us a read on y0su, I was unable to find it.
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Yea, that' it for now, lol. Sorry, it's been a long day and my thinking is a little scattered.
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On May 10 2015 06:49 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 04:54 Tictock wrote:
"Bullied prp into claim" reads alot differnt than saying " I read him as role or scum D1, and put the pressure on him D2"
However, claiming this read after the fact proves little as you never stated those reads untill late D2.
Tone and phrasing make a world of differnce. I also like the VT throwaway notion, I'm not sold that it is a solid plan given that VT is still needed to win, but maybe in that situation it has some merit.
Anyways, i still see you as town or at least my most towny scum, i just hate that you throw this " too towny to prove town" attitude at us.
What do you think about my read on SL? i get home in probably 4 hrs, so i will read it more thoroughly there. that said, my initial thoughts is that SL has been tunneled pretty hard on me for a lot of the game, which doesn't seem like a winning strat as the last mafia alive. he is high on the lynch list, tunneling me and me flipping town will only put him closer to the lynch so idk...doesn't seem like a winning line of play.
TT statistically likely town -c- pretty much town superbia conf town y0su considered my claim so might be town. which leaves shining and hts....so after i read your SL read, i should probably read those 2 filters.
I just looked through SL's filter and found 0 evidence of this claim. Care to enlighten us ritoky?
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On May 10 2015 14:55 Tictock wrote:SL what was your thinking behind this lynch order? Show nested quote +Actually I already have auto. kill yosu ritoky tictoc win the game. So ya im not gonna try im an easy townread if you wanna throw the game go for it
Everyone else is pretty likely town. Super and hts and pretty confirmed. Celestial consensus town and shining I personally likke. That means if we kill everyone else we win. I dont rly think your scum I would kill the other two first and expect the game to be over
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On May 10 2015 14:55 Tictock wrote:
And given ritoky's play today has that changed?
his posts were garbage barely read. apparently hes still reading my filter and has no read on me
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On May 10 2015 15:05 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 06:49 ritoky wrote:On May 10 2015 04:54 Tictock wrote:
"Bullied prp into claim" reads alot differnt than saying " I read him as role or scum D1, and put the pressure on him D2"
However, claiming this read after the fact proves little as you never stated those reads untill late D2.
Tone and phrasing make a world of differnce. I also like the VT throwaway notion, I'm not sold that it is a solid plan given that VT is still needed to win, but maybe in that situation it has some merit.
Anyways, i still see you as town or at least my most towny scum, i just hate that you throw this " too towny to prove town" attitude at us.
What do you think about my read on SL? i get home in probably 4 hrs, so i will read it more thoroughly there. that said, my initial thoughts is that SL has been tunneled pretty hard on me for a lot of the game, which doesn't seem like a winning strat as the last mafia alive. he is high on the lynch list, tunneling me and me flipping town will only put him closer to the lynch so idk...doesn't seem like a winning line of play.
TT statistically likely town -c- pretty much town superbia conf town y0su considered my claim so might be town. which leaves shining and hts....so after i read your SL read, i should probably read those 2 filters. I just looked through SL's filter and found 0 evidence of this claim. Care to enlighten us ritoky?
thats acualy the only ritoky post i like
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VOTE COUNT:
y0su (2) : The Shining, Half the Sky
ritoky (2) : sicklucker, -Celestial-
sicklucker (1) : Tictock
Not voting (3) : ritoky, Superbia, y0su
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On May 10 2015 15:17 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 15:05 Tictock wrote:On May 10 2015 06:49 ritoky wrote:On May 10 2015 04:54 Tictock wrote:
"Bullied prp into claim" reads alot differnt than saying " I read him as role or scum D1, and put the pressure on him D2"
However, claiming this read after the fact proves little as you never stated those reads untill late D2.
Tone and phrasing make a world of differnce. I also like the VT throwaway notion, I'm not sold that it is a solid plan given that VT is still needed to win, but maybe in that situation it has some merit.
Anyways, i still see you as town or at least my most towny scum, i just hate that you throw this " too towny to prove town" attitude at us.
What do you think about my read on SL? i get home in probably 4 hrs, so i will read it more thoroughly there. that said, my initial thoughts is that SL has been tunneled pretty hard on me for a lot of the game, which doesn't seem like a winning strat as the last mafia alive. he is high on the lynch list, tunneling me and me flipping town will only put him closer to the lynch so idk...doesn't seem like a winning line of play.
TT statistically likely town -c- pretty much town superbia conf town y0su considered my claim so might be town. which leaves shining and hts....so after i read your SL read, i should probably read those 2 filters. I just looked through SL's filter and found 0 evidence of this claim. Care to enlighten us ritoky? thats acualy the only ritoky post i like
gee, I wonder why...
I need to get to bed, it's only a little over 5 hours before I have to be at work. Hopefully I can get up early and figure out how to proceed into EoD. I wont have much time after work thanks to Mothers Day.
D3 is turning out to be a headache, town is making this harder than it should be.
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Well didn't fall asleep, might just be up all night at this rate...
Ended up back in SL's filter seeing what I had to build a full EoD case against him, and I ran into this.
On May 07 2015 02:10 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 02:02 Stutters695 wrote:On May 07 2015 01:56 sicklucker wrote:On May 07 2015 01:53 Stutters695 wrote:On May 07 2015 01:36 sicklucker wrote:On May 07 2015 01:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy at work (catering a shit load of luncheons today). Where in the blue hell are you getting 75% from?
Homeboy might be scum, but I'm not getting how you reach those odds. 50% chance theres a veteran in the game. Mafia will always roleblock ff last night incase hes a veteran so they dont lose a kp. This is just standard mafia play and the correct play. Maybe I should lower it a bit because it is a newbie game but I know super 100% makes this play. 0-25% added because super might claim rb as mafia even if theres not a veteran because he has won games doing it before (meta) thats how I got 50-75% Do you remember what game he claimed RB as scum in? 75% is a strong estimate. That looks real bad for you (like almost have to lynch you d3 bad) if he flips town so I want to see where you're coming from. Hts just linked it. Its not me to say if you should lynch me if im wrong or not. But making mathematical mechanical game decisions is kind of my town play style and im right more then im wrong I'll check it out when I have more time, but if you're wrong you've contributed next to nothing and will have caused a mislynch based on probability rather than anything really mafia related. I'll check out your previous games tonight/tomorrow (no rush on that really since it wouldn't be applicable until d3 in this case), but surely you can see how bad that would look. Im offering you a really good lynch math does not lie! This preflip blame is hella scummy
At first this looks like it pretty much confirms SL as town. It doesn't make sense that SL and Stutters on a scum team would carry on like this, much less Stutters poke holes in a teammates theory to get a Town lynched. ...But then if we assume SL is Town (and Stutters obv would know that) WHY would stutters poke at SL's idea? Wouldn't Stutters support this completely wrong notion to the fullest (knowing as scum that it is 100% untrue).
Does it make more sense that Stutters is bad Mafia and does not take advantage of town SL's incorrect play? or Is it probable that SL and Stutters per-arranged this exchange to give town cred?
I can't tell if I'm getting stuck in WIFOM or if I'm just tired.
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On May 10 2015 16:16 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 15:17 sicklucker wrote:On May 10 2015 15:05 Tictock wrote:On May 10 2015 06:49 ritoky wrote:On May 10 2015 04:54 Tictock wrote:
"Bullied prp into claim" reads alot differnt than saying " I read him as role or scum D1, and put the pressure on him D2"
However, claiming this read after the fact proves little as you never stated those reads untill late D2.
Tone and phrasing make a world of differnce. I also like the VT throwaway notion, I'm not sold that it is a solid plan given that VT is still needed to win, but maybe in that situation it has some merit.
Anyways, i still see you as town or at least my most towny scum, i just hate that you throw this " too towny to prove town" attitude at us.
What do you think about my read on SL? i get home in probably 4 hrs, so i will read it more thoroughly there. that said, my initial thoughts is that SL has been tunneled pretty hard on me for a lot of the game, which doesn't seem like a winning strat as the last mafia alive. he is high on the lynch list, tunneling me and me flipping town will only put him closer to the lynch so idk...doesn't seem like a winning line of play.
TT statistically likely town -c- pretty much town superbia conf town y0su considered my claim so might be town. which leaves shining and hts....so after i read your SL read, i should probably read those 2 filters. I just looked through SL's filter and found 0 evidence of this claim. Care to enlighten us ritoky? thats acualy the only ritoky post i like gee, I wonder why... I need to get to bed, it's only a little over 5 hours before I have to be at work. Hopefully I can get up early and figure out how to proceed into EoD. I wont have much time after work thanks to Mothers Day. D3 is turning out to be a headache, town is making this harder than it should be.
im the easy lynch...?
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So im here to interact with you. And you just ignore me and go through my filter?
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