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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 09 2015 17:42 GMT
#1821
y0su is still not back, so I'm throwing a vote on him. Let's see if he'll shake it up then.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 09 2015 17:46 GMT
#1822
But yeh sicklucker, those are some insights of ritoky those early pushes from town and mafia motivation. And the way he pushed Stutters though, that's a point in his favour. So I don't know what approach to take here.

If y0su flips town, all of ritoky's reads need to be under a microscope.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 09 2015 18:34 GMT
#1823
And back. Now to find the scum.

ritoky
Ok so ritoky is my weakest scum read between the 3 so I will start with him. His day 1 is pretty solid, but there is some pretty interesting stuff there. He points this out + Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2015 01:30 ritoky wrote:
y'know i gave prp a early town read cuz he made a quality observation, then i layed off him cuz he did a "fuck you" post, which always gives me the hots. but this kinda disengaged is kinda meh. you're falling on my list big boy.

stutters is also declining rapidly at this point.

place them both on the lynchable list.
having earlier defended prp (hadn't said much about Stutter before this point). This would be super early for ritoky to distance himself from these 2 scum if he was the final scum, I suppose it could be a good mafia play to create that kind of distance early but it reads fairly town to me given there was no pressure to call them out.

I noticed this a little after EoD D1. It's been hanging in the back of my head as odd, especially given that prp was the first to vote in thread. On further inspection, though, the timing shows that ritoky votes well after prp made that post. To me that looks like prp decides to push a 2nd wagon to earn some easy "not jumping on that ML" cred and wait to make sure someone else is willing to vote with him before voting himself. It makes more sense for prp to play a town ritoky this way, rather than ritoky and prp as scum starting their own wagon so late. Even besides this bit of logic, ritoky had clearly been scum reading HtS for several reasons D1 and he has been pushing for a second wagon, thus his vote here was completly town based.

ritoky's D2 stuff actually looks pretty good as I look at it today. I was focusing in a lot on his usage of "confirmed town" yesturday, but now that it's out of my system and I'm reading around it I see a lot of good town play. He weakly defends me in a push, even though he has clearly said since he still reads some scum on me. He actually pushes Stutters a lot for not being more forceful on prp.

His EoD2 and N2 stuff looks a little odd, trying to call out what prp is going to do with claiming then going for that double counter claim on doc. Both actions look strange and feel wierd, but boil down to NAI when you look at it. Prp had literally no chance UNLESS he claimed a blue role, a VT claim would never stop that train given his inactivity. So ritoky pushing him to do that or be mafia is legit pressure. The doc thing... super weak town play or ballsy mafia. In fact given HOW weak of a town play it is (I agree with -c-, no way does Mafia believe a claim like this from ritoky) and the fact that ritoky is telling us he's probably going to be MIA the rest of D3, I can completely agree with him being a viable lynch target.

Besides that last point though, ritoky does look fairly town. I wont vote for him today.

Sicklucker
I've given my reasoning on SL before and as others have said it's almost a policy lynch at this point given the general lack of reading. SL is also pushing pretty hard on ritoky right now after he posted his newest "sure win" idea.
On May 09 2015 09:57 sicklucker wrote:
Actually I already have auto. kill yosu ritoky tictoc win the game. So ya im not gonna try im an easy townread if you wanna throw the game go for it

Notice how he's pushing y0su first here? Then he jumps to ritoky super hard. I was interested why he put y0su first and dug up some interesting quotes. Working (newest post to oldest) I find these posts which mention y0su.
On May 09 2015 07:06 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 22:50 Half the Sky wrote:
On May 08 2015 11:09 The Shining wrote:
Yeah I was excusing the vote, not scumming him for it, and he comes back and tells me it's not alignment indicative. Felt like a defensive post, and unnecessary.

And I'd lynch him solely off of doing that more than once, while trying to direct blues without reading. I can't even begin to fathom where that town motivation would come from.


Shining he has done this as both alignments. If sicklucker is scum, it's not for this. What I'm more interested in, is how he knew he wanted to lynch Stutters and y0su earlier.

I asked him earlier who other than Superbia he wanted to lynch - he replied Stutters and y0su without any reasoning.

SL, what do you think on y0su now?


I have had answered this like several times?

On May 08 2015 04:38 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 00:03 Half the Sky wrote:
More to sicklucker - if sicklucker can elaborate on his scumreads on superbia and y0su, it will go a long way for me.


my yosu read was weak off one shitty post. My super read has been covered

... and that's it... I even used ctrl-f to make sure I wasn't missing anything. SOMEONE please verify this for me.

Honestly, unless someone can find a post I'm missing somehow I think we've got our last scum here guys.

##Vote: sicklucker


I can take that responsibility.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 18:39 GMT
#1824
Read some of hts whining about my alignment. I am pretty much confirmed town. She was whining about my read on her but neglected the post where I said I intentionally blew the read out of proportion to create an alternative wagon. She also neglects the part where I was one of the only people pushing on stutters all game and where I bullied pro into a claim. He'll even the play I made during the night phase was 100% but indicative. Not to even bring up how i am a mason with the vig.

Plus nothing I have done fits my scum meta. Go grab my self meta post and check for yourself.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 09 2015 18:39 GMT
#1825
HtS, what is making you lean more town on SL?

After reading my last post, do you still feel that way?
I can take that responsibility.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 18:40 GMT
#1826
Stupid auto correct on phone
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 09 2015 18:43 GMT
#1827
On May 10 2015 03:39 ritoky wrote:
Read some of hts whining about my alignment. I am pretty much confirmed town. She was whining about my read on her but neglected the post where I said I intentionally blew the read out of proportion to create an alternative wagon. She also neglects the part where I was one of the only people pushing on stutters all game and where I bullied pro into a claim. He'll even the play I made during the night phase was 100% but indicative. Not to even bring up how i am a mason with the vig.


I hate you for the bolded statements. Not sure what you mean with the italics, and agree with the rest.

That is all.
I can take that responsibility.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 18:45 GMT
#1828
Italics was "hell the play I made during the night was 100% vt indicative" but auto correct
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 18:46 GMT
#1829
Also why do you hate me for stating what I have done and how town I have been?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 18:49 GMT
#1830
Also idk if y0su is mafia will have to read more later, but didn't he actually consider my claim? That makes him less likely in my mind
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 09 2015 18:52 GMT
#1831
You are NOT confirmed town. I think your probably town but every time you state "I'm confirmed town" I cringe.

You did not pressure prp into claiming. He litteraly had no other moves, in fact had he done anything OTHER than claim it would have been a terrible night for Mafia. Prp claiming when he is for sure getting lynched like that gives mafia a blue target to go after.

Look at all the arguments people have made as to why your CC for doc looks bad. Try again, also this makes you look bad for not reading.

Ok, you can be masons with Super, I still don't like it... maybe I'm jealous ^.^
I can take that responsibility.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 09 2015 18:54 GMT
#1832
Idk about Masons anymore Ritoky. :D Need to reread you.
Minimal effort.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 18:57 GMT
#1833
Firstly, the doc cc during the night is 100% town indicative. Anyone saying otherwise doesn't know how to town or is flat lying. There's no response necessary. And absolutely I pressured prp into his claim. I made posts about him being role or mafia, and he even quoted my posts. Seems like you're the one not reading or comprehending. It's okay my overwhelming townieness can be blinding to some.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 09 2015 18:59 GMT
#1834
Hey ritoky post again.
I can take that responsibility.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 19:00 GMT
#1835
Hi?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 09 2015 19:00 GMT
#1836
On May 10 2015 04:00 ritoky wrote:
Hi?


See guys I pressured him into posting.
I can take that responsibility.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 19:04 GMT
#1837
That was legit the dumbest thing ever but I laughed.

I spit town fiyah and you can't handle it son
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 09 2015 19:07 GMT
#1838
Lol, sorry you had to wash your own logic off your face there.

Care to give an actual response to the arguments here? Or do you prefer to continue spitting?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
May 09 2015 19:12 GMT
#1839
I have to head out, probably for the rest of today. I'll check in as I can but wont be able to post much till near EoD.

ritoky spitting away all the town cred I patiently read into him... such a shame.
I can take that responsibility.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 19:15 GMT
#1840
I don't see any arguments. If doc claims and you're by you almost always try to eat the bullet, regardless of the quality of your claim. It is also a play that shows a degree of self abandon which is what TV have. Like I said anyone who tells you it is not a town play is lying or doesn't know how to town.

Outside of that what do you want me to address? That I had a cop, medic, or mafia read on prp after his 4th post so I defended him day 1 and then pressured him into death day 2? Yup cuz that isn't super town.

Or how about the part where I forced a second wagon day 1. Not town at all.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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