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On May 05 2015 04:39 The Shining wrote:
So if he doesn't know these things I've mentioned, how would he know I'm more relaxed and jokey as town? You either did read or didn't read. And if you only skimmed and have partial information i.e. reading only my entrances instead of skimming through different phases, how could you be confident enough to scum me for it?
because self perception is not always what others perceive. for example i have rolled scum in games, posted in the game and been like "i am town jesus here" and literal 0 people read me town. i have also rolled scum, thought i was shit and got universally town read. my point is that some of what he read and mentioned from your filters i also read. i also think the simple effort of reading someone's past game filters is more town indicative; it is a waste of effort on d1 as scum.
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Then maybe I'm in a tunnel. It doesn't matter. Super isn't getting lynched today and unless you or he pushes me, neither am I. This is the 2nd time in as many days I've been forced to defend/talk about Superbia and his scumread on me. Then you wonder why I'm "inconsistent" and giving effort reads to some, not others.
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On May 05 2015 04:40 The Shining wrote:
Effort read?
effort reads are things like x is town cuz he is posting a lot, reading shit, considering things, asking questions, and such similar things.
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Anyway, main reason I'm down for a scott lynch is his read on prpl. He has him as scummy then drops it to null when he still hadn't posted. If anything it should make him scummier. Additionally, leaving me off completely is weird when from someone who doesn't know me, I should be in the same boat as the other lurkers.
Not to mention unvoting his scum read and not having anything else in mind before bouncing.
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I know it's not too helpful but I'll be more around tonight as well.
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On May 05 2015 04:45 The Shining wrote:
Then maybe I'm in a tunnel. It doesn't matter. Super isn't getting lynched today and unless you or he pushes me, neither am I. This is the 2nd time in as many days I've been forced to defend/talk about Superbia and his scumread on me. Then you wonder why I'm "inconsistent" and giving effort reads to some, not others.
i am just really confused about your alignment, you're a very complex null read for me and i am trying to push you to give responses so that i can get a more solid read on you.
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On May 05 2015 04:46 ritoky wrote:effort reads are things like x is town cuz he is posting a lot, reading shit, considering things, asking questions, and such similar things.
Ohhhh, like my read on HtS VS my read on Super. Like the fact that Super had no proof he even read any of my past games, other than claiming I'm usually relaxed. Whereas HtS has been in games with me, and in her other posts not regarding me, uses quotes to illustrate her thought process.
Is that what you meant when you said I was inconsistent?
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On May 05 2015 04:48 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 04:45 The Shining wrote:
Then maybe I'm in a tunnel. It doesn't matter. Super isn't getting lynched today and unless you or he pushes me, neither am I. This is the 2nd time in as many days I've been forced to defend/talk about Superbia and his scumread on me. Then you wonder why I'm "inconsistent" and giving effort reads to some, not others. i am just really confused about your alignment, you're a very complex null read for me and i am trying to push you to give responses so that i can get a more solid read on you.
I almost always am before we get to D2 and I can actually do what I'm good at. Vote analysis, night reactions, association regarding first flip, etc. This is one of the main reasons I say I suck D1 and why I try not to play it. But there's no reason not to interact and at least put my reads into the thread.
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On May 04 2015 05:23 Tictock wrote:
Both Superbia and The Shining made some eyebrow raising early game plays, but they appear to be contributing now and I can easily see the early game stuff being sillyness or just attempts at pressure. No real reads on them.
I'm getting pretty strong town vibes from y0su, disformation, and ritoky. I really like disformation's attempts to poke and ask questions. y0su is my weakest read of these 3, but feels like a solid town.
Everyone else... well there simply isn't enough out of prplhz or sicklucker to really go off of. Not much to go off of Stutters695 either, another person who states he "doesn't do day 1" which is pretty meh but NAI.
Pretty much all I got for now.
On May 04 2015 16:16 Tictock wrote:
I left HtS out of my earlier reads due to just joining the thread. That was awhile ago and HtS did not provide much besides some suspicions against Superbia. Getting a scum read for now until there is something to show otherwise.
As for Superbia, I'm having a hard time getting a solid read now. I was getting a scum vibe from his play the first half of D1 here but he is looking more town here near the end of the day. I want to keep an eye on him but atm he doesn't seem like a good lynch.
prplhz is looking pretty scum to me right now too. He made one post with actual content and even that was mostly an excuse as to why he isn't posting.
Scott put himself in a position where he looked pretty bad, but lately he's bee making an effort and seems fairly calm given the suspicions around him. That feels town to me, he's not ignoring what ppl say about him but he's not focused on defending himself either.
prp and HtS really need to contribute, SL and Stutters are also barely active & have contributed nothing solid thus far.
I am really curious to see what Tictock has to say on Superbia particularly on the exchange between him and Celestial if he has any input or even between that and Shining. Both disinformation and myself are also headscratching on him at the moment, and one of my issues with Superbia is that particular exchange. I realise he's partying hard (happy birthday btw!) but look forward to a response when he returns.
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that is some garbage by stutters right there. 4 hours of catching up into absolute garbage. he says he will vote on the scott wagon, doesn't, and is now hedging off of it and not for a particularly amazing reason either. you might be the recipient of a vote soon.
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On May 05 2015 04:48 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 04:46 ritoky wrote:On May 05 2015 04:40 The Shining wrote:
Effort read? effort reads are things like x is town cuz he is posting a lot, reading shit, considering things, asking questions, and such similar things. Ohhhh, like my read on HtS VS my read on Super. Like the fact that Super had no proof he even read any of my past games, other than claiming I'm usually relaxed. Whereas HtS has been in games with me, and in her other posts not regarding me, uses quotes to illustrate her thought process. Is that what you meant when you said I was inconsistent?
no i meant you're giving effort based reads on HtS, yet you avoid giving effort based reads on say...me or ff. if you think x is town for doing y thing, and z and a are also doing y thing, why aren't z and a town for same reason? that's what i mean by inconsistent.
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On May 05 2015 04:51 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 05:23 Tictock wrote:
Both Superbia and The Shining made some eyebrow raising early game plays, but they appear to be contributing now and I can easily see the early game stuff being sillyness or just attempts at pressure. No real reads on them.
I'm getting pretty strong town vibes from y0su, disformation, and ritoky. I really like disformation's attempts to poke and ask questions. y0su is my weakest read of these 3, but feels like a solid town.
Everyone else... well there simply isn't enough out of prplhz or sicklucker to really go off of. Not much to go off of Stutters695 either, another person who states he "doesn't do day 1" which is pretty meh but NAI.
Pretty much all I got for now. Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 16:16 Tictock wrote:
I left HtS out of my earlier reads due to just joining the thread. That was awhile ago and HtS did not provide much besides some suspicions against Superbia. Getting a scum read for now until there is something to show otherwise.
As for Superbia, I'm having a hard time getting a solid read now. I was getting a scum vibe from his play the first half of D1 here but he is looking more town here near the end of the day. I want to keep an eye on him but atm he doesn't seem like a good lynch.
prplhz is looking pretty scum to me right now too. He made one post with actual content and even that was mostly an excuse as to why he isn't posting.
Scott put himself in a position where he looked pretty bad, but lately he's bee making an effort and seems fairly calm given the suspicions around him. That feels town to me, he's not ignoring what ppl say about him but he's not focused on defending himself either.
prp and HtS really need to contribute, SL and Stutters are also barely active & have contributed nothing solid thus far. I am really curious to see what Tictock has to say on Superbia particularly on the exchange between him and Celestial if he has any input or even between that and Shining. Both disinformation and myself are also headscratching on him at the moment, and one of my issues with Superbia is that particular exchange. I realise he's partying hard (happy birthday btw!) but look forward to a response when he returns.
wtf, this is way too diplomatic sounding. has damdred taken over your account and taught you the diplomacy voice?
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okay wtf deadline is tonight
i don't know about scot31337. i got a good feeling about him pointing out that the shining was joking when other people couldn't see it. i also don't feel like lynching into some new guy for hardly any reason, did that way too much in last student mini.
actually i'd much rather lynch hts. hts pointing out last game that it was obvious we were going in the wrong direction when we lynched a new guy for the third day in a row but now she doesn't mind continuing for a fourth day in a row? i don't know the cases on scot31337 don't speak to me at all and one of them is by celestial that i also have a bad feeling about (that people don't share for some reason).
also hts is scum reading me for saying shining's entrance was super odd, but she's not scum reading the people who felt the same thing about it? FF ritoky super felt the same way, why is she picking me out of all players?
##Vote Half The Sky
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On May 05 2015 04:51 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 05:23 Tictock wrote:
Both Superbia and The Shining made some eyebrow raising early game plays, but they appear to be contributing now and I can easily see the early game stuff being sillyness or just attempts at pressure. No real reads on them.
I'm getting pretty strong town vibes from y0su, disformation, and ritoky. I really like disformation's attempts to poke and ask questions. y0su is my weakest read of these 3, but feels like a solid town.
Everyone else... well there simply isn't enough out of prplhz or sicklucker to really go off of. Not much to go off of Stutters695 either, another person who states he "doesn't do day 1" which is pretty meh but NAI.
Pretty much all I got for now. Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 16:16 Tictock wrote:
I left HtS out of my earlier reads due to just joining the thread. That was awhile ago and HtS did not provide much besides some suspicions against Superbia. Getting a scum read for now until there is something to show otherwise.
As for Superbia, I'm having a hard time getting a solid read now. I was getting a scum vibe from his play the first half of D1 here but he is looking more town here near the end of the day. I want to keep an eye on him but atm he doesn't seem like a good lynch.
prplhz is looking pretty scum to me right now too. He made one post with actual content and even that was mostly an excuse as to why he isn't posting.
Scott put himself in a position where he looked pretty bad, but lately he's bee making an effort and seems fairly calm given the suspicions around him. That feels town to me, he's not ignoring what ppl say about him but he's not focused on defending himself either.
prp and HtS really need to contribute, SL and Stutters are also barely active & have contributed nothing solid thus far. I am really curious to see what Tictock has to say on Superbia particularly on the exchange between him and Celestial if he has any input or even between that and Shining. Both disinformation and myself are also headscratching on him at the moment, and one of my issues with Superbia is that particular exchange. I realise he's partying hard (happy birthday btw!) but look forward to a response when he returns.
I'll look into this, I thought it was strange that after that initial response from Tic regarding me, I don't see anything else regarding a read on me. I would like my no real read to become a real read, pls, I think I've done and said enough to get people to lean one way or another.
But I also quoted this for another reason. HtS, why is it important that both you and Disfo are head scratching at that? It seems really strange that you'd try to buddy with anyone that way D1, unless you're trying to pocket him.
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Still also curious to hear from sicklucker why I'm on his lynch list as well. Don't think he's posted since he last afked.
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i too am also interested in seeing where this goes. although i don't think scott is a bad lynch.
##vote: hts
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On May 05 2015 04:53 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 04:48 The Shining wrote:On May 05 2015 04:46 ritoky wrote:On May 05 2015 04:40 The Shining wrote:
Effort read? effort reads are things like x is town cuz he is posting a lot, reading shit, considering things, asking questions, and such similar things. Ohhhh, like my read on HtS VS my read on Super. Like the fact that Super had no proof he even read any of my past games, other than claiming I'm usually relaxed. Whereas HtS has been in games with me, and in her other posts not regarding me, uses quotes to illustrate her thought process. Is that what you meant when you said I was inconsistent? no i meant you're giving effort based reads on HtS, yet you avoid giving effort based reads on say...me or ff. if you think x is town for doing y thing, and z and a are also doing y thing, why aren't z and a town for same reason? that's what i mean by inconsistent.
Well FF's easy. I nailed scum FF in some game I can't talk about and I'm seeing a completely different FF here. That one was full of excuses and laziness D1, where FF here is relaxed, having fun but still pushing and engaging when here. I suppose I should've thrown that into the thread.
And as for you, I don't know you or your meta. As far as this game goes, you have a lot of one liners and posts questioning and engaging the thread, while opining on active things in the thread. The interaction with me and Stutters. The Cel - Scott stuff. HtS reads. I can find just about everyone in your filter, which feels like a strong town.
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reasons being: you're noticing the same things i am but reading them opposite, you have an overly diplomatic tone that also feels forced, you're interested in a lot of things but not pushing for them, you don't feel obviously town, and your early reads were primarily summary reads that others had already made.
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On May 05 2015 04:47 Stutters695 wrote:
I know it's not too helpful but I'll be more around tonight as well.
So after eod? =/
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On May 05 2015 04:54 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 04:51 Half the Sky wrote:On May 04 2015 05:23 Tictock wrote:
Both Superbia and The Shining made some eyebrow raising early game plays, but they appear to be contributing now and I can easily see the early game stuff being sillyness or just attempts at pressure. No real reads on them.
I'm getting pretty strong town vibes from y0su, disformation, and ritoky. I really like disformation's attempts to poke and ask questions. y0su is my weakest read of these 3, but feels like a solid town.
Everyone else... well there simply isn't enough out of prplhz or sicklucker to really go off of. Not much to go off of Stutters695 either, another person who states he "doesn't do day 1" which is pretty meh but NAI.
Pretty much all I got for now. On May 04 2015 16:16 Tictock wrote:
I left HtS out of my earlier reads due to just joining the thread. That was awhile ago and HtS did not provide much besides some suspicions against Superbia. Getting a scum read for now until there is something to show otherwise.
As for Superbia, I'm having a hard time getting a solid read now. I was getting a scum vibe from his play the first half of D1 here but he is looking more town here near the end of the day. I want to keep an eye on him but atm he doesn't seem like a good lynch.
prplhz is looking pretty scum to me right now too. He made one post with actual content and even that was mostly an excuse as to why he isn't posting.
Scott put himself in a position where he looked pretty bad, but lately he's bee making an effort and seems fairly calm given the suspicions around him. That feels town to me, he's not ignoring what ppl say about him but he's not focused on defending himself either.
prp and HtS really need to contribute, SL and Stutters are also barely active & have contributed nothing solid thus far. I am really curious to see what Tictock has to say on Superbia particularly on the exchange between him and Celestial if he has any input or even between that and Shining. Both disinformation and myself are also headscratching on him at the moment, and one of my issues with Superbia is that particular exchange. I realise he's partying hard (happy birthday btw!) but look forward to a response when he returns. I'll look into this, I thought it was strange that after that initial response from Tic regarding me, I don't see anything else regarding a read on me. I would like my no real read to become a real read, pls, I think I've done and said enough to get people to lean one way or another. But I also quoted this for another reason. HtS, why is it important that both you and Disfo are head scratching at that? It seems really strange that you'd try to buddy with anyone that way D1, unless you're trying to pocket him.
HtS, when you get a chance, pls <3
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