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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 04 2015 16:45 GMT
#661
Superbia was kinda defending him a bit before. But since scott seems to have even lost interest in defending HIMSELF...eh...

I can understand wanting a second target though.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 16:54 GMT
#662
superbia is probably town though. he actually read past game filters.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 04 2015 16:55 GMT
#663
Yeah, wanting a secondary target for voting logic makes sense to me.

Superbia is kinda meh to me. As I said in my earlier posts I got a bad vibe from him, but was able to find towny stuff from him (good push onto me, following up on the shining meta read.) So I don't want to lynch him right now.

I don't like Stutters and prplhz lurking around doing nothing, but not sure if I would right off lynch them of that. Maybe I could lynch Stutters because his whole "being here, but contributing 0" does annoy me a lot. Like I don't even see him trying.

Kinda suspicious of sicklucker. No idea how to read ticktoc. Maybe I'll look into these two for a bit.

Also I am kinda expecting the Mafia to bus scott at this point... if I was be mafia!scott I would tell my mates to bus me hard.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 04 2015 16:58 GMT
#664
I'm not actually expecting anyone to defend scott at this point either as either alignment honestly.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 16:59 GMT
#665
looked @ ticktock's filter:

On May 04 2015 19:40 Tictock wrote:
I'm having a hard time deciding who I want to vote for as well.

Scott is still the most appealing case, even though I have some doubts.

I'm tempted to make a case against prp but there just isn't enough to go on. I just don't like his dismissive post regarding how he "spams town" normally and says he isn't around. If he is legit too busy to play a town would likely replace, this seems more like a scum excuse to skate by day 1.

Unfortunately that's all I have as prp, as well as several other ppl, just aren't active enough to make real reads on.


this post strikes me as odd...he is having a hard time deciding who to vote for, yet he thinks 1 guy is scum and the other guy is inactive and that's his two top scum reads? seems like not a hard decision there. i don't really understand where his hesitancy is coming from here.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 17:04 GMT
#666
also stutters, it's been abt 2 hrs since you started "catching up". i expect posts soon.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 04 2015 17:20 GMT
#667
On May 05 2015 01:59 ritoky wrote:
looked @ ticktock's filter:

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 19:40 Tictock wrote:
I'm having a hard time deciding who I want to vote for as well.

Scott is still the most appealing case, even though I have some doubts.

I'm tempted to make a case against prp but there just isn't enough to go on. I just don't like his dismissive post regarding how he "spams town" normally and says he isn't around. If he is legit too busy to play a town would likely replace, this seems more like a scum excuse to skate by day 1.

Unfortunately that's all I have as prp, as well as several other ppl, just aren't active enough to make real reads on.


this post strikes me as odd...he is having a hard time deciding who to vote for, yet he thinks 1 guy is scum and the other guy is inactive and that's his two top scum reads? seems like not a hard decision there. i don't really understand where his hesitancy is coming from here.


Hmm. He posted:
On May 04 2015 16:16 Tictock wrote:
Scott put himself in a position where he looked pretty bad, but lately he's bee making an effort and seems fairly calm given the suspicions around him. That feels town to me, he's not ignoring what ppl say about him but he's not focused on defending himself either.


A bit earlier.
So I reconstruct his train of thought as follows:
1. scott looked really bad
2. he starts to look better now
3. well, he still looks the worst, but I am having some doubts because he was starting to look better for a while

Since he is a fellow newbie he might not be confident in his reads at all? Maybe he is not confident with bussing his teammate?
But his filter is also really short. Granted he has gained some attention for questioning the general town read on FF... but he really needs to give us more to work with. Could see him swinging either way right now. =/
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 04 2015 18:35 GMT
#668
just been out running, will read up after shower
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 04 2015 18:52 GMT
#669
oh right I haven't voted yet. Sorry was getting my ass handed to me in the TL open. Anything special? I see prpl is here
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
May 04 2015 19:08 GMT
#670
VOTE COUNT:


scott31337 (6) : -Celestial-, sicklucker, disformation, Half the Sky, y0su, FecalFeast
sicklucker (1) : The Shining (X), scott31337 (X), Superbia
-Celestial- (0) : Superbia (X)
Half the Sky (0) : Superbia (X)

Not voting (6) : prplhz, ritoky, scott31337, Stutters695, The Shining, Tictock

The cycle will end at Monday, May 04 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), <4 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in the voting thread.

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched!

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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 04 2015 19:24 GMT
#671
Still no Scott defense. Yeah, I could vote him, too. I'm sorry, I definitely avoided this game last night. I was a bit cranky and didn't want to let it get any worse. =/

Super's birthday excuse is valid but it really gives me butterflies that it just happened to excuse him for EoD. While he has a "pressure" vote on SL. How much pressure is pressure if you say it's pressure and then proceed to say you likely won't have a way of backing up your pressure or vote? It's wasted pressure, wasted vote and Scott at the time looked like the wagon that would gain traction. And it has.

As for Scott, I agree with the points made against him. And if it were any other player, I'd be worried about no one defending him but if he is in fact scum, it would mean he rolled scum every game he's played here. I could understand the lack of defense, lack of posting, possible lack of motivation as someone who is tired of rolling scum as a newbie.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 19:27 GMT
#672
@shining: you don't think super's reading of your past game filters is at all alignment indicative?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 04 2015 19:29 GMT
#673
Hopefully Prpl shows up before EoD after catching up, not after.

HtS showed up today, better late than never, I suppose. Last time I played with her, she was obviously and significantly town. This is a bit more subdued, but not neccessarily scummy. Her appearance today has been pretty active and analytical and looking into posts, but it had to be, as she was already under pressure for her slow first half of D1. Outside of sheeping and strengthening a case on Scott from Cel, she has engaged other players, shared reads and meta reads and taken stances. Looks like an active bid to solve the game.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 04 2015 19:30 GMT
#674
Sorry guys, busy day. I would still do Scott. Playing in 2 games is rough.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 04 2015 19:34 GMT
#675
On May 05 2015 04:24 The Shining wrote:
As for Scott, I agree with the points made against him. And if it were any other player, I'd be worried about no one defending him but if he is in fact scum, it would mean he rolled scum every game he's played here. I could understand the lack of defense, lack of posting, possible lack of motivation as someone who is tired of rolling scum as a newbie.


To be honest assuming he does flip scum I kinda feel bad for the guy. Its got to absolutely suck to roll it all the time. Just mentally exhausting. :-\
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 04 2015 19:34 GMT
#676
On May 05 2015 04:27 ritoky wrote:
@shining: you don't think super's reading of your past game filters is at all alignment indicative?


I do. I thought I scummed him somewhere for it, I might not have posted it, though. He claimed to have read my past games but I'm not sure I believe him, unless it was "these posts look about the same size and posted the same, good enough." He claimed my filter here looked those town filters. If that were the case, he'd know I opened this game exactly like my last town game. Name 3 random ppl who have alrdy posted, call them scumteam, gg. He'd also know literally any time I've been scummed, I defend myself tooth and nail. So scumming me for being bitter and sardonic when he's the reason I'm bitter(scumming me over an HtS slip that was clearly in her filter) instead of looking at it objectively just looks like trying to push me.

It felt more to me like he asked for those games, skimmed 1 or 2, claimed to read them for town cred(what scum would read games to figure out meta? they know alignments) and then let it go.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 19:38 GMT
#677
On May 05 2015 04:34 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 04:27 ritoky wrote:
@shining: you don't think super's reading of your past game filters is at all alignment indicative?


I do. I thought I scummed him somewhere for it, I might not have posted it, though. He claimed to have read my past games but I'm not sure I believe him, unless it was "these posts look about the same size and posted the same, good enough." He claimed my filter here looked those town filters. If that were the case, he'd know I opened this game exactly like my last town game. Name 3 random ppl who have alrdy posted, call them scumteam, gg. He'd also know literally any time I've been scummed, I defend myself tooth and nail. So scumming me for being bitter and sardonic when he's the reason I'm bitter(scumming me over an HtS slip that was clearly in her filter) instead of looking at it objectively just looks like trying to push me.

It felt more to me like he asked for those games, skimmed 1 or 2, claimed to read them for town cred(what scum would read games to figure out meta? they know alignments) and then let it go.


i read your filters too, and didn't think superbia was that far off. he was a bit hyperbolic at points, but i certainly understood the perspective. had he done quotes and whatnot i woulda been over the moon town on him. it is surprising to me that you give effort reads to certain people, but not to others. i don't really know what to make of it right now. i can't tell if you're just really inconsistent or if it is my desire to lynch you creeping into my head.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 04 2015 19:39 GMT
#678
So if he doesn't know these things I've mentioned, how would he know I'm more relaxed and jokey as town? You either did read or didn't read. And if you only skimmed and have partial information i.e. reading only my entrances instead of skimming through different phases, how could you be confident enough to scum me for it?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 04 2015 19:40 GMT
#679
Effort read?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 04 2015 19:41 GMT
#680
On May 05 2015 04:34 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 04:27 ritoky wrote:
@shining: you don't think super's reading of your past game filters is at all alignment indicative?


I do. I thought I scummed him somewhere for it, I might not have posted it, though. He claimed to have read my past games but I'm not sure I believe him, unless it was "these posts look about the same size and posted the same, good enough." He claimed my filter here looked those town filters. If that were the case, he'd know I opened this game exactly like my last town game. Name 3 random ppl who have alrdy posted, call them scumteam, gg. He'd also know literally any time I've been scummed, I defend myself tooth and nail. So scumming me for being bitter and sardonic when he's the reason I'm bitter(scumming me over an HtS slip that was clearly in her filter) instead of looking at it objectively just looks like trying to push me.

It felt more to me like he asked for those games, skimmed 1 or 2, claimed to read them for town cred(what scum would read games to figure out meta? they know alignments) and then let it go.


I tend to do it as either alignment, but scum read for meta pretty often. It's an easy way to avoid making up a case if you know someone is town but can find inconsistencies between their play.

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