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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 09 2015 01:03 GMT
#1781
The last mafia might have bussed the first mafia with tmi too. any ideas?

Im suspect of ritoky because of his buddying up and pointless posts. Buddying up to super makes alot of sense when you know hes a role and roleblock him dont you think?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 09 2015 01:05 GMT
#1782
On May 04 2015 02:00 ritoky wrote:
prp is town because i literally mind melded him here:

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY




insanely weak reason to tr a mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 09 2015 01:07 GMT
#1783
On May 05 2015 01:30 ritoky wrote:
y'know i gave prp a early town read cuz he made a quality observation, then i layed off him cuz he did a "fuck you" post, which always gives me the hots. but this kinda disengaged is kinda meh. you're falling on my list big boy.

stutters is also declining rapidly at this point.

place them both on the lynchable list.


the classic bad scumplay double bus tho LOL
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 09 2015 01:07 GMT
#1784
Speaking of tmi that ritoky vote is way to much information
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 09 2015 01:08 GMT
#1785
On May 09 2015 09:43 sicklucker wrote:
why should i do anything shining? the other 8 players in the game besides the likely mafia all think im town. I helped push scum on stutters he pushed scum on me


One of my recent posts said I dove your filter and caught you scumming Stutters. And that game you fakeclaimed vet as scum is proof you try as scum. I've already got you back at bad/lazy town.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 09 2015 01:10 GMT
#1786
Ya pretty sure its ritoky. hes not this good at finding scum. Thats a bus if I ever saw it. We know the two dead mafia bussed. bussing is like a flu when it starts everyone catches it. We lynch ritoky
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 09 2015 01:11 GMT
#1787
On May 09 2015 10:08 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 09:43 sicklucker wrote:
why should i do anything shining? the other 8 players in the game besides the likely mafia all think im town. I helped push scum on stutters he pushed scum on me


One of my recent posts said I dove your filter and caught you scumming Stutters. And that game you fakeclaimed vet as scum is proof you try as scum. I've already got you back at bad/lazy town.


damn straight and the fact your not trying to lynch me which has to be the win condition of any mafia makes me like you
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 09 2015 01:13 GMT
#1788
Thoughts on my Stutters-yosu association case, go go go.

Honestly, I'd lynch ritoky after yosu, as well. Inb4 I'm scum for scumming SL and now agreeing with him. Main problem was lack of reading and playing but filter diving and these last few posts make it pretty clear I'm off on SL.

That and I thought he had recently scummed Super/yosu, not Stutters/yosu. Damn S names.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 09 2015 01:15 GMT
#1789
Ya those are for sure the next two lynches. Ill reread yosu he might be too bad to be scum
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 09 2015 01:19 GMT
#1790
On May 09 2015 10:07 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 01:30 ritoky wrote:
y'know i gave prp a early town read cuz he made a quality observation, then i layed off him cuz he did a "fuck you" post, which always gives me the hots. but this kinda disengaged is kinda meh. you're falling on my list big boy.

stutters is also declining rapidly at this point.

place them both on the lynchable list.


the classic bad scumplay double bus tho LOL


Hm this is very interesting. But does scum Ritoky really make that doc cc in the night phase? Like he knows he's killing Dis if he's scum so his claim would look awful.

Then again, Super did make a point about scum probably being familiar with his style and meta and therefore figuring out he was vet due to not directing vig shot at eod(good to know for future games involving Super lol).

Y0su/ritoky. Any other wagons today need to have a slam dunk case attached.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 09 2015 01:20 GMT
#1791
On May 09 2015 10:15 sicklucker wrote:
Ya those are for sure the next two lynches. Ill reread yosu he might be too bad to be scum


Adding this into my last post, if y0su's play is too bad to be mafia, doesn't the night doc cc from ritoky fit that category?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 09 2015 01:23 GMT
#1792
No ritokys a confident mafia he can think thats a good idea in a newbie game. And what he did is null its just classic filler to have more posts.

Reading yosus filter all im sure of is that hes not afraid to post which is a town tell for a first time mafia. His logic is flimsy but he posts what he thinks. Not what his scum qt tells him
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 09 2015 01:27 GMT
#1793
On May 09 2015 10:19 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 10:07 sicklucker wrote:
On May 05 2015 01:30 ritoky wrote:
y'know i gave prp a early town read cuz he made a quality observation, then i layed off him cuz he did a "fuck you" post, which always gives me the hots. but this kinda disengaged is kinda meh. you're falling on my list big boy.

stutters is also declining rapidly at this point.

place them both on the lynchable list.


the classic bad scumplay double bus tho LOL


Hm this is very interesting. But does scum Ritoky really make that doc cc in the night phase? Like he knows he's killing Dis if he's scum so his claim would look awful.

Then again, Super did make a point about scum probably being familiar with his style and meta and therefore figuring out he was vet due to not directing vig shot at eod(good to know for future games involving Super lol).

Y0su/ritoky. Any other wagons today need to have a slam dunk case attached.


His claim was so bad no one gave it an extra thought. Which is why I think he was just aiming for fluffy filler and something to post without solving the game
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 09 2015 01:29 GMT
#1794
Like anyone whos played more then 3 mafia games knew ritoky was trying to take a rolebullet. But it was so poorly executed and unbelievable that a town ritoky cant possibly think it was worth the effort if that helps you.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 09 2015 01:35 GMT
#1795
Dinner is here and I want to take a break to eat and watch the last two matches of the League msi. I'll be back soon, preferably after rereading ritoky. Also would like to see others weigh in on the two possible wagons.

And nah, I originally had ritoky in my lynch list until HtS explained the possible town motivation for it. Yosu actually also defended it, when Cel and I found it suspect.

Hm. Scumyosu defending that move from a town ritoky doesn't quite make sense, either, unless ritoky flips town and he wants to distance from the ML. Yeah, I need a break LOL.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 09 2015 01:37 GMT
#1796
On May 09 2015 10:05 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 02:00 ritoky wrote:
prp is town because i literally mind melded him here:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY




insanely weak reason to tr a mafia


Thing is...Superbia was basically doing the same damn thing until everyone started jumping on prpl and I hammered him repeatedly pointing out how scummy prpl was looking. And Superbia is confirmed vig at this point.


In light of what I've seen from y0su myself plus Shining's post on the other page I think I'd be alright with a y0su lynch today. Pretty good chance of hitting the target I think. Probably do some more poking about in his filter before I decide for certain. Not doing it now though, too tired to concentrate.

ritoky isn't a bad call either. I still think that whole situation with CC on disformation's Doc claim is just weird as hell and if it wasn't for the fact that there's only one mafia left I'd be scumming them as a pair working together on some kind of weird gambit to confuse everyone. Those two in either order should probably get us the final scum lynch. I guess I'll decide which way around I'd particularly like to see it happen tomorrow.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 09 2015 01:38 GMT
#1797
On May 09 2015 10:29 sicklucker wrote:
Like anyone whos played more then 3 mafia games knew ritoky was trying to take a rolebullet. But it was so poorly executed and unbelievable that a town ritoky cant possibly think it was worth the effort if that helps you.


Ya that's why I refused to discuss it until day phase. I saw that, too. But you're right, it was badly executed and therefore picked apart.

K eating
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 09 2015 01:39 GMT
#1798
On May 09 2015 10:29 sicklucker wrote:
Like anyone whos played more then 3 mafia games knew ritoky was trying to take a rolebullet. But it was so poorly executed and unbelievable that a town ritoky cant possibly think it was worth the effort if that helps you.


It was also never going to work there unless the scum team had totally taken leave of their senses.

Again, in a no-PM setup there is no WAY that mafia buys that argument and shoots ritoky before they shoot disfo. No way. If you're mafia under those circumstances and you KNOW that it can't possibly have been a pre-planned gambit then you shoot the initial claim first.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 09 2015 01:44 GMT
#1799
I might do another full read on people tomorrow, just to make sure we're not overlooking anyone.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 09 2015 01:56 GMT
#1800
On May 06 2015 02:40 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm kinda souring on Rit. Is he always this all over the place?

That question to HtS about prp is really wtf.


your opinion is not very high on my list. and no i haven't been all over the place like this in a very long time. i also haven't rolled VT in over 10 games.

how is it wtf. she is posting giant posts about other people and really pushing them for info. i just don't see the conviction behind her push on prp. like she says lynch him with fire, but i don't get that sense. if someone votes on me EoD then fks off, i become a legit wagon, and he comes back makes 0 comment and moves onto a new target; i would be on him like white on rice. i was expecting more of a response.


On May 07 2015 02:45 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 02:40 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:25 ritoky wrote:
EBWOP: why did you do nothing d1

Go read any game I play lol. If you get 3 pages out of me d1 it's a miracle. Honestly, it's not the best in newbies, but it's very established for my meta. There is a reason HtS was on my side about it d1.

Anyway that's like the 7th time I've explained it. Eyes forward now, I'm done with that.

Why don't we lynch prpl?


i did read your filter,

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.

been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 03:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 03:39 prplhz wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:20 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.

been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


? we thinking of the same guy? prp is a low volume poster as both alignments. he is like a 9-11 page over course of an entire game kind of player from my experience.


He had 15 pages in NSM7.

if you want to lynch me for low post count then you should do it now because i'm going to post a lot less this game. that game (like many other games) i tried to spam myself town. that's also why i have joined out of time mafia, because i want to stop spamming so much. anyway the reason i haven't posted a lot is because i haven't been around.

@superbia @ritoky what do you think about celestial? he is coming on as super tryhard, like nothing i've ever seen before. he stands out a lot compared to the general relaxed atmosphere in the thread. didn't filter him yet (dunno how much i can get out of that this early anyway) but it's just something that been sticking out a lot.

also @superbia happy birthday!


Spam yourself town. LOL. Is that what you're calling that? You established yourself as pretty town d1 there, then went completely mia as town imploded. Then came back spamming bullshit. If that's your strategy as town you need to step your game up real bad.

So far this game you've less and I was even trying not to tunnel you after that trainwreck of a game. Yet somehow, you just have a very lynchable face yet again.

How about you read C's filter and give me a reason not to lynch you instead of just saying "that stands out"


Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 01:14 Stutters695 wrote:
Prpl still missing I see.



here are all of your posts before the flip on prpl. this is not him "being a good target since d1" or you pushing a lynch on him. yes you had a scum read, but for him to be a "good target" that means you have to push him as the lynch candidate and really make the case for him being scum. you made no cases, never called for his lynch, and instead did a lot of this:

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 04:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy day. I would still do Scott. Playing in 2 games is rough.


so sorry if i am not buying your revisionist history.



Ummmm...this doesn't fit with both being scum. At that point, arguing with eachother over the 3rd scummate is hella risky, especially with Stutters being the initiator. This feels more natural VS planned in scum qt. Not definitive, though, just reading filter. And the tone in the 2nd post from ritoky is strong and he was one of the people burying Stutters for his lack of push but strong scumread on Prp.

Also it should be noted that, including quoted posts that have his name, Stutters shows up 25 times in ritokys filter to yosu's 7 total Stutters appearances.
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