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I don't see why a town would want less information in thread at this point. | ||
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On April 07 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote: Serious turn? They were joking at each other. How can the "wambulance" gather useful information? The most serious post here was about HF teasing obi. You disagree with this? My post is the most serious. But you jumped in instead of seeing where it would go | ||
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On April 07 2015 13:48 GlowingBear wrote: Damdy, I made a joke. I didn't ask them to stop talking. You're nitpicking something that has no significance. You also avoided answering my question. Why? which part? How obi hash left the thread after you interjected and called hf mafia somewhat? We lost information idk what question I'm avoiding | ||
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I honestly don't know what question I'm not answering. If it is obi mafia idk hasn't looked the best but not much to go on in that regard. However you on the other hand are probably mafia. I'm not sure about RS one of his posts here give me the willies'. She says just going to let you guys go at it basically when she's a peacemaker as town meh. | ||
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of course I have reads but I don't bow to scum demands | ||
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As such I actually think Eden should be in the last bracket and RS might be better served marginally lower. Eden is actually probably second on my list as scum after GB. Bad entrance and hasn't been memorable or tried to do much at all at this point. Which is anti-town for Eden at best. I also think its highly unlikely that RS and Eden would be scum together though for bad reasons | ||
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Coupeled with your move to now soul read Rsoul when nothing has drastically changed from the early game in that regard has me left with mixed feelings that could be best described as you being scum, and now you are pushing on vivax without even commenting on GB I think?. | ||
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Ritoky is just a gut town read so far, hes pretty trolly and laid back which is a meta read. But you dread I like your posts, like you just calling me out trying to get more reads I like that. | ||
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On April 09 2015 06:24 Eden1892 wrote: Meh Koshi I see what you're saying on GB, I don't want to talk about it anymore until GB comes back because I feel like if I keep defending my position and I'm wrong I end up covering for mafia and not making them work to be inno. I still believe in GB but I want to make him prove it himself since he suddenly disappeared. I really hate this post, it totally is horrible. Then Eden pushes me again | ||
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Your opening was much worse the amount of waffles in your game so far has been tremendous. You night disagree but what GB did and subsequent postings were horrible for GB. Sic if you people think it's weak mafia is caught ! for Weak and strong things | ||
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That post reeks a lot, it feels like a waffle a bit as well. Its just a horrible post I see what x is saying but I don't want to say one way or another. It just looks and feels like saying things just to say things. Honestly you probably are Scum here that post is just ticking at me | ||
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In this regard I'd kind of like to lynch GB, but town big can just shoot him tonight, And I feel like Eden was being scummy so I called him out | ||
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while I have a small amount of distaste for meta sometimes when you have a lot of experience with peole it is valuable. If you look at how GB calls me scum and votes me without pushing compare that to fanfic mafia where GB did that as well you can see a general sameness to it. GB as scum has a hard time coming up reasons to scum read people for, palmar did a game where GB honed in on robik and did sorts the same thing. I know people say its weak but GB did interject himself into the obi hf starting of a shit fight and allowed it to go without us being able to gather anything from it, at the same time palmar is right about gbs motivation in saying what he did or lack of motivation. GB lack of reads currently while just looking like he's doing something is also another scum thing he generally does, he vanished here, vanished in fanfic mafia. Besides me being scum really hard to determine where GB stands on things to a point. Lynch GB with me people | ||
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I would like GB to be lynched today, consolidate with me | ||
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Idk why I wouldn't be there's still time to talk this out and decide but I think GB is the right lynch | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:25 Holyflare wrote: Because the points on gb aren't good and this dr guy is anti town as all kinds of hell and not following up anything and not even responding at all while the scummy people in the thread derail it to gb. Damdred also says there's sufficient pushback to his gb read but doesn't explain how this makes gb mafia in the slightest and is an incredibly weird way to ohrase a reason to scum read someone. In void mafia I refused to listen to you because of pride or hardheadedness' on Hts and it let mafia go for another day and you died during the night. I think I am right and even though you do not see my meta points I've pointed out or actual things that I've drawn connections to as valid I think they are and it really looks and feels like gbs scum game. | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:29 Holyflare wrote: Like damdred who are your scum reads? Your first page of your filter says rsoul and eden but that was not long into the game and your eden read should have completely changed from not posting to something else (it looks like you scum read him for... Changing his read on you?) so to say there's sufficient pushback against gb but not have scum reads to correspond with that is so so weird. I'm not sure why the read has to change when I've been gone necessarily on Eden. Eden did scummy things I left came back Eden was doing more scummy things like that post about defending GB I still hate that post. GB is my top scum read I want him lynched | ||
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On April 09 2015 11:40 Holyflare wrote: Your scum read on eden was that he had no posts with content which has blatantly changed so your read should have completely changed since the initial stance. I mentioned how his read on me changed when none of the facts changed at all for instance and slight waffling at places. Scummy is scummy, I'm not sure why it matters that scum a was doing x then scum a did y when I say both things are scummy | ||
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Why is DreadReturn so concerned with defending GB, and not with providing actual scumreads? It is a common mafia tactic to defend a scummy-looking townie that people want to lynch in an effort to appear active and to derail town's efforts at consolidating on lynches. Based on this, it isn't difficult at all to see mafia motivation in DR's posting. Plus, he's a fucking smurf. I think this is my favorite part of what I've read about DR,( I hate playing with smurfs and DR you should just claim honestly if you are town and care about the game going forward. ) One thing that I do like is the effort he puts in on some of his read posts, his Vivax read I disagree with and he says koshi already made a similar read and I'm trying to determine whether hes just parroting to look better as scum or hes actually doing things as town. I just don't see a lot of scum motivation going after Palmar like he did early or pushing Vivax when it was him on the block. | ||
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I hope the big does shoot me so that next time you ask me to consolidate to give you your lynch I'll quote this and say fuck you again. | ||
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Stop twisting things I've said hf my change on Eden was explained at least once and you still give wrong facts. I'm so glad that I can't be frustrated because once again nobody will listen to me and il scummy for it. I'm getting to work in a fee minutes after some coffee | ||
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Also why was it so important this game to get the Smurf to reveal? I know in the past you have tried to get them to claim but you never really just focused on them to lynch them quite to this extreme like me in the past | ||
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I'll be here roughly until eon if anyone has any questions I'll try to get my analysis done by then. | ||
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Personally I don't think your answer particularly on Eden holds merit particularly well for starters. For example my opening Scum read as has been previously stated started with the fact that he opened quite badly and did very little if anything to,change that while I was here, I leave come,back it doesn't change the fact the way Eden opened the game was bad or scummy in itself. Nor do I harp or continue saying Eden isn't doing anything at all in fact I do the inverse and call to attention a post that I really hate and explain why the read he gives in me doesn't make sense compared to what he said earlier. You are saying that my reads are stuck in time when that's just not the case at all and it is a clear misconstrued of what I said. Part of the next part is damned if I do for instance I remember I think it was void or horns I was Scum read for trying to interact with things that were to old in the thread here I'm Scum read partially for not interacting with people when I'm trying to get my target pushed when I'm here. I also interacted with a couple of people outside of eod so not sure this is completely factual. GB is scummy he hides in Alf land as Scum you know this and were Scum when he does this before. IDK how else to say it my points are solid meh | ||
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Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn Palmar (0) - GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar, Rsoultin (0) - ObiWanShinobi (0) - Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky, Koshi (0) - Damdred (1) - GlowingBear, Yamato77 (0) - DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892 0m 0s until deadline. Currently DreadReturn is set to be lynched. The first thing that i'm doing here is coloring in the confirmed town DreadReturn as green as he flipped. I am also going to color myself green because I am confirmed to myself even if my play has been spotty at points due to being out so much which I apologize for especially if vig shoots me tonight. Now to the heart of the matter Damdreds Analysis Of People In Case he gets Shot during the night by Town Vig for being Bad: (sorry townies) Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn Palmar (0) - GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar, Rsoultin (0) - ObiWanShinobi (0) - Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky, Koshi (0) - Damdred (1) - GlowingBear, Yamato77 (0) - DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892 My first green marks are Ritoky, Palmar and Yamato. They are my strongest town reads at this point in time going forward, Ritoky is partially a soul read/meta read. If you compare this game to Guardians of the Galaxy when he replaced in or Mafia Down Under you can see a sharp contrast, also you can look at Imperial Mafia or Season of a witch. It is a vast difference if you compare the games you see a stark contrast between the scum games and this game. He actually has good thoughts here for instance even though he was wrong on DR he picked out a great observation on that question he asked me and how it just didn't flow well with the posts. Compared to his scum game he really is missing the super angry list post and how serious he is as scum. Really strongly town read Ritoky. Palmar is really strong this game, he opened the game up and it reminded me of Horns of Africa where he sees something he thinks is scummy and goes after it quickly and hard. he is trying to push the thread towards what I consider to be a good place especially early when the game is still forming and its inbetween the serious and the silly and gives us something to actually talk about in this situation in GB. He really pushed his ideas forward in the thread and I like the direction hes going, his tone is good to me also and hes constantly re-evaluating his reads. Yamato is putting forward some of the best effort I've seen him put into the game in a long time. The case on DR even though it was wrong it felt really sincere and well thought out. He asked good questions and when people started pushing other candidates (namely myself and obi when he sheeped) Yamato kept calling attention to his case and specifically asked us both to answer him. When obi answered yamato specifically quoted the part of the case he wanted to talk about I believe and really wanted an answer. And going into the lynch near the end he wanted to jump off DR and lynch someone else he didn't want to go on someone he thought was an easy mislynch but someone he felt could be really scummy. Just because of effort and the way he went about the day left me thinking he was really towny. Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar, Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky, Damdred (1) - GlowingBear, DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892 Rsoultin I wasn't totally sure of early on just because i'm horrible about reading her. Rsoultin does really stick to her guns though in the thread to my eyes going towards end of day she really wanted his top two lynches to get attention and potentially get lynched and she showed an extreme wiliness to consolidate and not just afk and leave her vote fuck all near eod and reading through the only reason his vote is on Vivax is because shenanigans were possible at that point, she refused to vote GB and seemed to have doubts about DR at the time. I really dont' want to spend a ton of time on GB because I've talked a lot about him during the rest of the thread. Look in his other mafia games and compare then look at what I said and see if I have any points about whats going on, even if you think its way weak just see if I have points. I think GB is really scummy still to me his reads really don't have much going on. Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar, Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky, Damdred (1) - GlowingBear, DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892 ObiwanShinobi is a scum lean for me currently. I went into the night thinking that Obi was a town read for me because of his tone early on in the game and his wiliness to call my points on GB good. I have a really soft spot for people who call my posts good I suppose. however when I looked through his filter this post really caught my eye and sounds really superficial and fake to me On April 09 2015 13:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Should have stuck to the GB vote honestly. It just strikes me as weird because he seemed so sure and his quick jump off GB really strikes me as weird in this situation. Also a loto f his posts read antagonistic towards HF and others to a point. Early in the thread when he also got the chance he decided to afk and leave the thread instead of getting involved in the early talk which I know has been asked to me earlier and I think its scummy in retrospect. Pretty sure obis a bit more than a scum lean. I actually like Koshi this game, he seems to have a direction in his postings in my mind. Hes also revisiting his reads and explaining them, he pushes his thoughts and pushes people to answer his question specifically towards vivax at points. His cases really feel sincere and his tone is really good and towny. I'm really sold on him being town. Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar, Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky, Damdred (1) - GlowingBear, DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892 This will possibly be my most controversial read and I've read his filter three times almost. I went into the night/analysis phase thinking that HF was scum, however some things really changed my mind when I read his filter. He really pushes his own ideas during the night phase and tries to find answers to questions and figure out peoples reads going forward. Look at how he addresses me about my read on Edn trying to figure out where I am and trying to find out if my read is scummy and not changing or if I have a legitimate way. Though I still think the lynch on DR and HF lack of care especially at the end was concerning ive seen it before he has really good follow through and his response to being tunneled pushed I feel has been pretty good. Eden I am scum reading currently but I have some misgivings on another read through. Eden has his town anger going on that I generally pick up on and town read him for but there are some things that still really bother me. These things that bother me are the way that he came into the game and the way that his read develops on me for instance it bothered me, and his post on GB still reads sort of waffly to me. He does push what he thinks though and revisits his read on me and looks at it so honesty a bit of it is omgus granted and his revisit does ignore that i'm asking GB to show the question i'm avoiding which he doesn't take into account. Eden is probably the person i'm most wrong about at this time if i'm wrong. I sort of feel like i'm looking through a clouded view of Eden because of his scum read on me, I've never seen him this angry as scum when I confronted him early in the game. Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar, Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky, Damdred (1) - GlowingBear, DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892 Onegu- I am pretty null on Onegu right now, his list posts are kind of meh and he doesn't feel connected sometimes in the game. But i'm nto sure that makes him scum. Vivax- Originally going into near EoD I didn't see why Vivax looked so bad, DR pointed some things out to me when I asked about it and I reread his filter recently. If you compare it to Vivax recent town games its missing a lot of thoughts and explanations to a point, usually he has a lot more thoughts in what he posts. Look in guardians of the galaxy he pushes his thoughts and gives good explanations even if some of the theories don't pan out or ideas are wrong he still has them and shows them in the thread. I don't see that as much this game, he says something gives a really short explanation why maybe just a sentence and I don't feel the push or drive to get what he thinks into the thread or into the spotlight. Currently I have four scum reads/leans in Eden, Obiwan, Vivax and GB. Obviously one of these has to be wrong also I think its highly unlikely that we had three scum up for lynch at the same time. I'm sort of feeling like i'm the most wrong about Eden currently, so that leaves me in a world of GB, Vivax and Obiwan. I sort of like this team as GBs initial push on HF got obiwan the ability to escape the thread and vivax sudden appearance at eod right as he was being discussed. Plus his lack of anything during the night, DR said some really good things about him also. | ||
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any thoughts about it? questions? | ||
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I'm not sure that i'm wrong necessarily it reminded me a lot of Horns when he went after GB like he did, and when he went after you thinking town v town it looks a lot like how he went against Marv at points in XXX to me. I can see town Palmar doing this. | ||
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On April 10 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote: (i do not remember this horn palmar at all. i remember him basically announcing he wasn't going to read, sheeping marv, claiming mafia and trolololing to the point that when we nkd him people were like o.0 wtf?) Maybe i'm thinking of the wrong game, Eden claimed Miller d1 early to draw out the real miller (marv) and I reacted weirdly to him and questioned his claim rescinded and Palmar pushed me until I was almost lynched d1 then I was mod killed so idk what palmar did after that | ||
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On April 10 2015 11:57 rsoultin wrote: lol ^ shit tier reason to townread koshi to the end of time xP he was soooo certain there was only a mafia vig he argued back and forth about it...i remember facepalming half a dozen times doing it (this is for you onegu; i know most people aren't questioning koshi's alignment) also, rereading damdy's filter (before his voting analysis) started getting the feeling that even though i rarely see him tunnel, he really was pushing that gb lynch pretty strongly at EoD ppl started getting cold feet on dr and he demanded a switch to gb, then seemed to get pissed when ppl wanted to go other directions then the analysis wasn't terribad :/ might upgrade you to a townlean damdy, cause i can believe the sick could be hampering your play i expect proof on your gb metareads, though Yea I'll find examples from the games or do you want links to check out the filter yourself | ||
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Idk hf I could see town palmar saying that and believing that about you. Ok rsoultin give me just a little bit to pull it together, for reference game names are Arnie got a gun and fan fiction mafia for how he likes to afk and attack townies for meh reasoning and just tunnel. That is if you want to go look before I can get back on laptop | ||
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On April 10 2015 12:19 Holyflare wrote: If you're going to talk about palmar tunnel at least reference the flip side in guardians where he tunneled on toads "guyses" for ever and eternity. Actually yea this part is true but that was mafia on mafia as well | ||
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Like what? I'm so confused... Your afk with saying you will give reads but then dissapear is a scum tell. I made another post about what you were doing at eod if you have read my filter you would of seen it | ||
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Also idk if jk was being offensive or if was scum but was rb during the night | ||
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Yes that is true palmar doesn't normally hardbus like that, but at the same time what about what hf pointed out about guardians and him and toad double bussing in that situation? | ||
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SL I've already said that in not the vig. We already know I wasn't jk by oneg/you... So I'm not sure what you are getting at in your posts. | ||
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I'm kind of just going to ignore SL I think. | ||
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1) Palmar was jkd and scum/town big tried to shoot palmar. None has claimed a shot on palmar so in this case palmar is town. 2) Palmar is scum kp and he got blocked. I believe everyone has visited the thread at this point maybe not rit but since no big has claimed to have shot anyone this is improbable. 3) Palmar is town vigilante and was going to shoot GB and fot blocked. Possible. 4) We have another big who held the shot last night to gather more information and shoot tonight. This is also possible. I'm not ignoring palmar or the situation but I think it can resolve itself during the night. And I still dint understand why its one scum one town to you in this scenerio. It makes no sense, and GB is the scum wr should lynch here | ||
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I still think GB is scum the rb situation will resolve itself in the night | ||
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You still haven't answered anything | ||
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Has mafia damdred ever done that before? | ||
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On April 11 2015 02:26 GlowingBear wrote: I said I don't want to speculate on unreliable information, but palmar being scum vigi and being jailed and, therefore, not able to shoot, and scum roleblocker wasting his roleblock on one of the dead townies (mainly HF, who hinted he was JK but was also strongly scumread by a possible vigi) and you taking the chance to claim being roleblocked without a counterclaim and therefore distancing yourself from palmar. This looks very plausible to me Every person besides ritoky has been in the thread and nobody is town vig, this scenario is really unlikely | ||
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Here GB goes damdred narrative he's still scum regardless of effort. That struck me as interesting | ||
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I then go on to explain anything people ask me about it mostly HF at this point. You aren't interacting at all with my most indept post in the game you are just saying you will do things with it later but still call me scum for it. You are making up reasons without doing any work | ||
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2) you are pretty static make up reasons for Scum reading refusing to look at stuff. Won't interact with posts instead of just making things up, other things I mentioned. 3) because your not town? | ||
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So what do you think? | ||
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On April 11 2015 09:32 sicklucker wrote: theres acualy more mafia motivation because your list wont effect the votes or results of the gameday... Eh I kinda disagree but I'm from the marv way of thinking stone wall stone wall no information if you are about to die. | ||
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On April 11 2015 09:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Eden never really has anything backing the fact that he thinks I'm mafia. He thinks I'm mafia every time he rolls town so him including me in his lists for no reason at all is basically normal. Who's mafia Obi who would you lynch | ||
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So tell me your thought process into should of kept vote on GB to maybe gb for lack of everything else | ||
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I'm not sure that quotes accurate SL context wise since I didn't vote Dr and was trying to get people on GB and off dr | ||
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GB, Obi and then someone else I need to decide on good god. If I say person x is out then it doesn't change that much | ||
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Its lackluster at best, you can't find an actual problem with it or with the facts I am saying so you just are giving blanket statements and ignoring what others are asking you to do. | ||
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SL did you ever read my long post or just see long post | ||
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I really liked yamatos read posts and his activity day one and push felt really town to me. Ritokys absence so far today has been odd but I felt he had a few good observations and he didn't feel like his scum game. What do you see | ||
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Also can you explain the way your reading that post a bit? | ||
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Ritoky just reminds me of XXX in a lot of his posts though idk if you read him there or not sl | ||
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Second point is lazy I list his latest town game and his latest scum games. If you wouldn't be sp lazy you could see what I'm saying in this regard. HF asked about palmar two or three posts later and I gave an example of palmar re-evaluating I'm not sure what you are comparing this to. If you look at what I generally do I do spend a short amount of time in these things trying to spend a paragraph or so talking about eac person. You fail to even check if I do this as town or both alignments just laziness. I asked for questions about any reads and anyone who asked for a greater explanation which at the time was only hf. I don't put much merit into what you just did. Meh | ||
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I'd rather not policy lynch people though for lackluster activity on d2 though, when we have someone who has been pretty scummy in my eyes on the whole (GB). Who people have said they would be ok to lynch and then when people suggest others they flock behind them instead. I'm not going to make unflipped associations at this point until I see a mafia flip obviously. But I really think we should flip GB as it is directly linked to the cases and push that myself and Palmar did and i'm more than willing to be lynched myself for it if gb flips town. Obi, can you tell me why you would rather lynch ritoky now instead of GB? | ||
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Push GB, Obi goes ok I can lynch gb for lack of better options, questions obi, SL suggest Ritoky, well I could get behind a Ritoky lynch. Later in the phase well it just feels like we are destined to lynch ritoky, why would you lynch ritoky over gb obi?, I never said I wanted to lynch ritoky over GB and other things. It feels pretty weird | ||
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Who would you rather vote Vivax? Also do you think GB to my big post is enough since you asked him for that? | ||
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And vote GB. I'm not going to waste my vote though, i'd rather you guys move to GB. | ||
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Which btw, what do you think Vivax of Yamato hard defending people off of voting GB during shenanigans time necessarily? And him pushing back equally hard off palmar? | ||
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Yes you are right Koshi in that regard I do remember. | ||
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Eden you have to come back or else you might get lynched. Your posting about the nk and your theory that palmar carried the scum nk screams to me that you shot hf for some reason and know scum kp is missing. Also your softings make it realm clear you are ready to claim a role so please if you are big come back and stop jerking us around. | ||
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I'm not shoving off this close to deadline. I don't want vivax lynched here and idk why obis statement is scummy its in line with what he said earlier ie Yamato shows up does stuff don't lynch he afks does almost nothing lynch. we shouldn't negotiate with terrorists but we should lynch gb | ||
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I'm sorry GB if you flip town but I just don't see it especially the totally weird read flip on me, it just didn't feel natural after you trashed my posts | ||
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Idk how that's talking to someone like they are town especially as the phrase has conditionals In it | ||
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Leave reads if you are town like DR did. It gives town something to work from so we can tell things from people who pushed the lynch this is basic stuff eden | ||
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The final list of reads fb made is kinda bad and most of everything else GB did is meh. you should vote gb | ||
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That hurt his scum life survival at that point. That's interesting to me. | ||
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Vivax (1) - DreadReturn GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar, Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky, Damdred (1) - GlowingBear, DreadReturn (7) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892, Rsoultin, Next blue claims and i'm coloring myself green because confirmed to myself and I think my GB push and lynching mafia is pretty good ^_-. Just a couple of thoughts before I go to the day 2 vote count to see some things. I don't believe that the DR wagon can be entirely town based, I think at least one mafia was on that way. Like really sure that mafia was either in a position to afk or jumped off at some point after the wagon gained enough votes for them to shenanigans onto someone else without much consequence I'll come back to that thought and go into a bit more detail near the end. Koshi (1) - Koshi Vivax (1) - Yamato77 GlowingBear (3) - Palmar, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, Sicklurker Yamato77 (2) - Vivax, ritoky ObiWanShinobi (2) - Eden, GlowingBear Once again confirmed people colored in and I colored myself green. To start off my thoughts. Its interesting to me that Ritoky voted on Yamato like he did. The choices were (obi and myself were on Yamato at the time) help Palmar push GB when he wasn't in the thread, vote Vivax with Yamato (who ritoky was previously town reading) or vote Yamato with Vivax, Obi and Damdred. He says he really likes Palmars case the best out of all of this but decides to push Yamato ahead, as I mentioned before Ritoky had a hard hard town read on Yamato previously in D1 but decides to vote him d2 even though he has little to no interaction with him and even though he loves the GB case presented by Palmar and knows his town read Damdred would jump on a GB lynch he doesn't go that way onto confirmed mafia and instead he jumps onto Yamato pushing him ahead of Vivax 4-3 or 4-3-1 ahead of Vivax and GB at this point. He then goes back to afk land. I think this heavily implies that Ritoky who would normally go against the grain in this situation and vote his favorite case instead of one that he thinks just isn't bad is scum in this scenario. I don't see any other way after re-reading how the voting went down. I know its been pointed out before but the way Ritoky went about the vote D1 is strange as well, (and feeds into my above point) he was so strongly town reading yamato at that point he was following him wherever he went even if it meant not jumping onto GB who he admittedly wanted to at that point in time. Has to be Ritoky here I think based on association and his weird progression on voting Yamato. I also think if Ritoky is mafia it clears Yamato a bit since Ritoky hammered him basically and there was little to no push to move the vote off Yamato. This is a bit weaker at this point especially since he keeps fading in and out of afk land but I think it makes me not want to lynch him if Ritoky flips scum. Koshi (1) - Koshi Vivax (1) - Yamato77 GlowingBear (3) - Palmar, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, Sicklurker Yamato77 (2) - Vivax, ritoky ObiWanShinobi (2) - Eden, GlowingBear Now we get to the bit of a logical leap about what happened with the votes. There are only three partners that I think Ritoky/GB can potentially have with how the vote went down. The most likely due to how the votes spontaneously moved about would be Vivax. When myself and Obi moved from Yamato to GB at that point in time we effectively hammered Vivax with that move, even though votes are tied it switches from 4-3-1 (Yamato, Vivax, GB) to 3-3-2 (Vivax, GB, Yamato) if we hadn't of had GB start pushing obi at that point Eden wouldn't of moved to obi more than likely and Vivax would of been lynched. What is the motivation though to flip a lynch from town Vivax to town Obi if you lynch yourself? I don't think that there is motivation in doing this if you can't guarantee your own survival if both are town, I just don't see it. The only scenario that makes sense to me is that Vivax is a more powerful/important scum team member and GB was trying to save the RB at that junction of the game. It makes the most sense with how the vote went. The second partner that makes sense is Eden with the ferocity that he tried to hit the votes off of GB and onto Obi. It could very well be Eden was doing that, but I have a hard time that scum Eden would hard align himself with partner GB like that. The third scenario is that Obi bussed GB into the ground and GB was trying to give him as much cred as possible to take into the end game for the hard carry. This is slightly more likely than 2 especially with how fake the push from GB felt and how contrived it felt also. But I also don't want to give this much thought until we see what Ritoky/Vivax flip at this point without new information. Koshi (1) - Koshi Vivax (1) - Yamato77 GlowingBear (3) - Palmar, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, Sicklurker Yamato77 (2) - Vivax, ritoky ObiWanShinobi (2) - Eden, GlowingBear the green on Eden probably is the lightest and obi is probably the most tinfoil at this moment as a last resort that I don't really believe when he could of hammered Yamato over scum partner GB. | ||
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On April 13 2015 20:39 Koshi wrote: Can you explain me how this happened more in detail Damdred? Especially if we are looking between scum in Vivax/Ritoky/obi and yamato. Sure, Obi had put forward the idea that he was willing to lynch Yamato (this was after Ritoky had already voted Yamato and afk'd at that point) but he was ok with lynching GB and if Yamato came back and did things he would be a lot more willing to switch to GB. Yamato came back and did a few posts and then said he would be back later after deadline, obi threatened him with lynching him and I told him don't be a terrorist lets just lynch GB instead. So I switched to GB and obi followed me and this put Yamato at 2 votes and GB at 3 votes. But since vivax was at three votes first he would be lynched. So we asked Yamato to switch to GB but Yamato was back into afk. At that point GB came in (was currently voting the lynch leader in Vivax) and said Obi is really scum guys look how passive and other things. This is where it gets interesting GB says that everyone should vote Obi and hammers himself basically by moving his vote and getting Eden to move his. At that point in time the only way that anyone but GB was getting lynched was if GB and Eden moved to Yamato which didn't happen/couldn't happen as I believe they both had Yamato as town. They hoped SL would move to Obi I believe and I would move to obi to hammer him over GB but we didn't. Its just really strange that you would move off the vote leader in vivax if you are going to die yourself as scum. | ||
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Ok Koshi, can you tell me why you like an obi scum more than Vivax/Yamato at this point? | ||
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So whys it me out of those three | ||
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I have a thought but I'll save it until Yamato answers | ||
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You voted one of your top town reads because Vivax had an ok case. Limited time or not you usually make your mind up on your own and go your own way at points. The Yamato lynch was already pretty sealed if obi and I hadn't of jumped ship. What about the case brought him to a coin flip enough to not try to push GB at least a bit more than asking I believe it was SL where you should go? Also I want you to read my post and at least pay attention to the vote movement part I talked about and give opinions about that. | ||
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So how much of the game past/day have you caught up on at this point. Also when you conclude about Vivax do you think any of the people were bussing GB? | ||
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Vivax (1) - Yamato77, GlowingBear, Eden GlowingBear (3) - Palmar, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, Ritoky (1) - Sicklucker Yamato77 (2) - Vivax, ritoky ObiWanShinobi This is what the vote looks like before Eden and GB move onto obi. Does it change anything? Also your reads aren't that concrete at all i'm not sure if you actually called anyone scum in there besides hypotheticals | ||
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What do you make of everything ritoky is saying here Yamato? | ||
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Yamato whenever you can really want to know where your heads at on who is scum | ||
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On April 14 2015 12:05 yamato77 wrote: I'm okay with lynching ritoky. I will endeavor to find his partner in the mean time. Actually i'm curious now. What changed so much from the IDk from earlier? | ||
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You obviously read his filter as you pulled out so much and rit hasn't been super active. But Yamato went from idk. To being completely sure that ritoky is mafia without any additional explanation. It freaks me out a small bit | ||
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I don't like Yamato explanation why he's voting rit though feels really meh to me | ||
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but I'm kinda in a IDc mood, I think both are scum so I'm fine with lynching rit today | ||
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Yamatos responses have been worse than rits though especially about how he doesn't want to be questioned about his reads and his explanation on the rit vote is horrible | ||
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Basically though you are saying rits town... | ||
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And you then get upset because I'm trying to keep the thread on track and get more information out of you because btw you are on the list to lynch into. | ||
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But besides that vivax you have Yamato as mafia and I'm trying to engage and get you to focus and you won't. You have a chance to push scum!Yamato but you push scum koshi scenerio when he's not really on the table meh. Anyway I'm still at work for a few more hours. | ||
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I don't know if necessarily that's indicative at all, or a good heuristic. I'm pretty sure it's not hobestly | ||
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On April 15 2015 07:17 Palmar wrote: Damdy do you think Koshi's outrage earlier was genuine? It seemed real and genuine to me. | ||
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On April 15 2015 06:46 yamato77 wrote: If it was me I'd be proud of my play this game, but it isn't. My read of GB was bad but whatever, I lumped him in with Eden and that was obviously a mistake. Was this towards ritoky or toward the thread yamato | ||
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A bit, just a simple question | ||
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On April 15 2015 07:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't really think Yamato is mafia. Then what do you think obi | ||
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On April 15 2015 07:31 yamato77 wrote: there's always the chance he's town and just really playing awful I always play this way How big a chance he's town? | ||
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Obi what do you think of everything rit posted | ||
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What's up | ||
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Unless you think I'm mafia now obi? | ||
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I'm going to filter dive him and Yamato tommorow | ||
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Koshi (1) - Koshi Vivax (1) - Yamato77, Eden, GlowingBear Damdred (0) - Eden (0) - Palmar (0) - GlowingBear (3) - Palmar, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, Ritoky (1) - Sicklucker Yamato77 (2) - Vivax, ritoky 0m 0s until deadline. Currently Vivax is set to be lynched. If it wasn't for GB pushing obi you would of been lynched... | ||
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Vivax (3) - Yamato77, Eden, GlowingBear Damdred (0) - Eden (0) - Palmar (0) - GlowingBear (1) - Palmar Ritoky (1) - Sicklucker Yamato77 (4) - Vivax, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, ritoky ObiWanShinobi (0) - 0m 0s until deadline. Currently Yamato77 is set to be lynched. Heres the vote count before Me and Obi switched. (the vote count comes from look at the vote count thread..) Me and Obi switch that puts GB at 3 you at 3 Yamato at 2. An hour after we switch GB comes into the thread and pushes obi which causes Eden and GB to switch to Obi. Before GB pushes obi YOU were the one being lynched over GB. as you got 3 votes first | ||
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Why does it change nothing? If i'm JK'd by Eden i'm just as confirmed as Palmar is at this stage because of game mecahnics | ||
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On April 15 2015 23:36 yamato77 wrote: Either you were roleblocked by mafia, and can't be mafia, or you were jailed by town and can't be the vig, right? Yes, but I like the thought of Eden jailing me more | ||
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You and koshi are fighting I read your case it isn't bad. IDk if scum ritoky hard pushes Yamato in that case, usually when he busses the case isn't that good. So its a tough spot | ||
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First things first, Please go back and read my voting analysis of what happened during the GB lynch. I think I found something really important going forward. The first for whatever reason GB decided to let himself be lynched over lynching Vivax or at least staying on the lynch to help ensure his death. Once again I reiterate that this is super interesting, GB was going down in flames at that time the push on Obi looks really fake to an extent. The way that the lynch went is also important when talking about Yamato, mafia spent two days pushing for his wagon or afking on it. Ritoky pushed Yamato pretty heavily especially when he was at the end of his life in this game. I don't think i'd ever lynch Yamato at this point in the game. If hes alive in LYLO i'd have another look at him, but I think scum yamato would just concede in this spot like he did in the first game by this name. Palmar is obvious town, and hes most likely dying tonight or at most next night phase. Vivax is a really hard puzzle for me. Right now i'm leaning on him being the last scum here. I mentioned before about how GB moved off of him, at that point in the game Vivax was actually town read by a good majority of the players because of his push for the day. He has been looking at things constantly but it has felt at times hes wanted to be in fights and mess with the thread more than actually solving the game at points. The vote moving to me heavily implies that Vivax is the partner trying to carry the game at that point and his reluctance to lynch Ritoky and failure to push Yamato last cycle his only scum read and to try to push Koshi instead was pretty telling to me. I would lynch Vivax currently because I think hes the most likely scum in this scenario. Obi I think is really possible because the push by GB fees a bit fake and if vivax isn't scum I think its potentially to give obi a little cred at the time hew as falling pretty fast. The logic behind obis reads and how he went about things felt a little strange I think koshi quoted an exchange I had with obi about following thread sentiment. I think it still holds a little value and i'm suspicious especially with his falling activity when we had scum on the table. Also when he said he would give his thoughts they were really sparse and not much there when he got home. Really falling on obi, if hes in lylo have a long healthy look on him but he did lynch scum GB. I think Koshi is probably town here. He was pretty carefree d1 couldn't stick with his posting restrictions and his outbursts of anger read as town to me. Hes pulling things out of filters at this point looking at things and drawing some conclussions and asking questions. He might deserve a close rlook at lylo but it just looks like his town game. As always these are just my reads. don't take them for gospel I've been really good this game though. Theres only two suspects I think are really good shots at mafia. An outside third but I don't think its koshi currently. Ask all the questions you can to everyone dig up everything and figure this out. We just lynched two mafia in a row don't get lazy lynch the third. | ||
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However I will answer one thing, we were in the thread trying to decide if we wanted to switch to Yamato and you decided to push koshi instead of pushing Yamato and turned the thread to shit and insulted me instead of pushing your scum read. So no you didn't push Yamato at that point | ||
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On April 16 2015 10:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm kind of iffy on this Vivax lynch atm. Yamato's recent posting is more reminiscent of his scumgame, especially as a self-described thread destroyer. I'm not sure a town!Yamato would be trying to get under someone's skin like this. This is an interesting thought, but what changed from yesterday when you thought his postings were ok? He's been just as bad then as now? | ||
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On April 16 2015 12:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Ritoky's filter was small and he was unmemorable. Yamato's filter was less small and he was more memorable. why was Yamato memerable though. He played d1 and haphazardly showed up? Ritoky was about equal in that regard and it was his bad vote on Yamato that really shone through. So can you explain it a bit more | ||
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Yamato played day 1. Past that he showed up haphazardly. Makes much better sense. D1 I didn't think ritoky was that bad actually copied his town meta pretty well. | ||
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On April 16 2015 12:32 yamato77 wrote: Plus he's REALLY dropped off in activity/interest aside from coming in to say he wants to lynch the mafia everyone wants to lynch. Doesn't his recent postings though about how he thinks you are mafia sort of disqualify that last part of the statement? Seems to me you are someone the thread generally doesn't want to lynch though obi hasn't been concrete in that just that you are suspicious | ||
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Vivax lynching 0 mafia. Glad I'm the one who sucks | ||
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You just make baseless assumptions without even asking if any of my conclusions have changed after last nights conversation between obi/yamato. | ||
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Where do you want to go today then obi. Only on Yamato? | ||
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Do not get chippy or beligerant and you can copy paste if you want Vivax. But I want you to decide who you want to lynch today be it Yamato or Koshi and update your case if you need to be or just copy paste it if you think its 100% viable without any of the new information and I will listen and ask questions. | ||
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To answer your question Obi i'd rather everyone start getting there opinions into the thread about everyone else so we have a full night to talk about each other. I know i'm most likely to die tonight so i'd rather have that time to parse and give opinions about what people are writing if we switch off vivax we do but i'd rather we talk | ||
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Yamato what about d2 sealed the deal? Just they talked a lot Obi and GB that is. Obi what drastically changed your mind in detail please about Koshi. Vivax where do you want to go and why | ||
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Just make everyone talk as much as you can obviously and don't let people disappear when they start talking with the excuse reading the game pressure everyone. Don't pile up the votes and afk that's the sure way to lose this game. As such i'll start with some questions Vivax what do you think is the last scum in this situation? Could you also talk a bit more about this post and what you meant and gathered from everything? On April 18 2015 03:16 Vivax wrote: Also yamato the argument you apply to Obi for you being town also applies to you. But mafia Obi knows that if I don't get lynched it's not him getting lynched next, it's you. Whereas a mafia you has a good motivation to steer somewhere else cause he knows it's his life on the line after me, when he sees that Dam is wavering. It's really good play from Damdred on this part to not be decisive cause it baited a reaction you can expect from mafia. You also made mention of how you liked the talking but hated how everyone disappeared but then you basically stopped talking yourself, what was up with that. Obi, Who do you think is the most likely scum (obviously yamato needs to answer this as well) We will go from there when everyone answers | ||
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On April 19 2015 03:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote: This is the only time I've withheld my thoughts from anyone all game. I've asked a lot of things to you and got bare answers etc. a lot of times | ||
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Vivax when you get here why did you push yamato so much and then vote koshi with yamato? | ||
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On April 19 2015 04:38 Vivax wrote: I wanna see if Damdred dies this night. You can expect me to be super tryhard at lylo, I found the mafia in my last one I think I can do it again. We know i'm going to die though. I was rb more than likely by eden n1 or at least by mafia so i'm confirmed town meh. So explain this a bit more | ||
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I've started a post about four times today to try to put my ideas here when I die. But I keep ending up going i'm really torn and it sucks considering. I started the night thinking that it was like this Yamato>Vivax/Obi. Because I felt the read change between Obi Scum to Koshi scum and moving off of Vivax was really really strange. Obi also pointed out how big a thread destroyer you are as scum which is somewhat true. However I can't ignore the amount of effort that You(yamato have put into the game). While this isn't a perfect way to go about reading I go back to that read post D1 that I thought was really good. And you pushed your cases, because of this i'm sliding you up the town list currently. So that leaves me between Vivax and Obi, Vivax has amazing activity on his side while obi has he lynched mafia D2 and decided to stay on Ritoky d3. I'm leaning its Vivax here just because of the sudden read progression end of this past day on Koshi/Yamato. Yamato is scum vote him with me, wait no koshi is scum let me vote with yamato with no real explanation. Obi is a bit weird to me hes lost interest as the game has went along its felt. But i'm really leaning towards Vivax here tomorrow. | ||
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On April 19 2015 06:24 Vivax wrote: Thanks for that yamato btw. Anyway the tinfoil on Damdred starts cause I feel his questions are becoming redundant. It's like he just pokes randomly about things that to me seem super obvious. I don't wanna speculate too much since the NK is going to make the game easier. But if anyone besides him gets killed tonight you should start going full tinfoil. I think Eden jailed Damdred btw, and scum RB Palmar based on Eden's post N1 breadcrumb. I'm not sure how my questions are becoming redundant necessarily since i'm starting to quote things for a great explanation? meh | ||
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Feels that way obi. | ||
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But yea | ||
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Also tried to derail the ritoky lynch a bit that day 3. Lynch vivax and win I think. Make good decisions | ||
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. I just woke up ill be around | ||
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I think Eden jkd me n1, he says as much before he realizes oneg/sl are making plays, you also point out a post of fbs in your filter where it sorta reads to me that scum didn't rb me. Its circumstantial especially with the plays going on but I think its pretty solid especially with palmars block and him being hard for killing GB during the day. Vivax why do you call Yamato bad or scum and it seems you are leaning scum oj him buy then you try to convince him why his read is bad like you know he's town? | ||
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Also you pull out these posts about Dr but don't point out any interactions I had with mafia GB or mafia ritoky who I pushed lynches on. | ||
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So yea I'm trying to decide which of you is scum its honestly probably you for the way votes went d2 the way you talk to Yamato here when you should be suspecting him instead you talk to him why his read is wrong in your eyes rather than trying to push him as scummy you only push me who you have been hinting at pushing for the past cycle or so. Pretty sure you are the scum honestly | ||
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One post you dug up is without context, another is a complete narrative based on the assumption in not aware I looked bad d1. Then you completely stopped digging never presented anything from further or other interactions I had that were decent. Then you never presented anything on Yamato because you decided to just focus on me. Just like you decided that obi was never mafia that was a terrible post yesterday but meh. | ||
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There's nothing to refute honestly, I had good interactions and I had bad interactions d1 past that as I got better my days got better. And there is actually a decently strong argument for you being scum, heightened by the fact you really aren't doing work, you are just half adding it to make yourself look like you are. And you are trying to convince me I'm scum rather than looking at anything else in the game | ||
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We lynch Dr l, which btw I hard push GB eod hard as possible. N1 I get rb, Eden hints he rb me oneg/sl makes a play. You hold that scum faked a rb, GB tells the thread that he doubts scum rb me. You make a case on Yamato at this point (which you seem to be discounting now since I'm the only thing you have even talked about at this point). Rit votes Yamato afks, I go hey obi lets lynch GB. We switch to GB and get him lynched. To expond on this the only theory you have here is that instead of taking the mislynch here and put town at what effectively would of been mylo after d2 I instead tell people to lynch GB. We lynch GB and he flips scum palmar plays with the idea I'm mega bussing but concludes if you read his filter that I am town no tinfoil towards me at all. He quotes some of my interactions as proof. I make what I think is still the best post in the game where I call out according to you scum partner ritoky, where vig still has a bullet. I decide ritoky is scum during the night and begin to make associative reads. The day starts, me and obi instantly vote ritoky palmar says wherever I move he moves. Koshi says its my choice who we lynch. And your connection is that instead of lynching town Yamato to put us in mylo the next day I decide to hard bus my partner and lynch him? Tgis makes little sense to me you were hyper auspicious of Yamato throughout all of this and then you vote with him instead of against him on koshi and you blame me for not fighting against the koshi lynch. You said that obi can't me mafia in this scenario and it had to be between me and Yamato in a terrible post. You aren't looking for mafia within me and Yamato you are just looking for the easiest part of whoevers filter to tunnel and try to convince Yamato to switch to me. You are scum, the koshi vote you did looks horrid and switching to ritoky looks bad it always did. | ||
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Vivax ignores everything makes me scum | ||
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You didn't look at ANY of the other parts of the day. Or talk about Yamato whatsoever. All you did since before Obi died was start the shadow on me. | ||
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D1 isn't enough to make any decision on. Nor was my push on GB fake or weak. My day 1 was weak I'll admit that But it's what it is | ||
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I really disagree that I haven't been trying to find mafia after ritoky. I pressured people, I thought it was vivax or a side of Obi. I voted for vivax People went to Koshi. Then no shot happened | ||
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I mean I think,my analysis n2 was really good and nailed ritoky. | ||
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I guess we are lynching,me just on d1 stuff which sucks but I'll keep the stuff why I wanted out of this game in till after game | ||
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My d1 was horrible night1-3 was great I feel. N4 it was ok, past that I've sucked the truth is vivax started this throwing,things my way then and eliminating Obi from conversation. It sucks but it a true | ||
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I think vivax is mafia for a few reasons but give me a minute to,type,them up | ||
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1) Read my post after the GB lynch there were only two possibilities for GB surviving maybe three. The first was if myself and Obi moved back to Yamato which we refused. The second way was if Sl hammered Obi over GB which he didn't do, the third was to not nice from vivax. GB directly pushed against having vivax lynched when he moved his vote from him. If you have the towny nailed why in the he'll do you move off of him to lynch another towny in Obi. 2) Vivax pushed against a ritoky lynch in favour of a Yamato lynch and gave a bs reason when there was still a chance of Yamato getting lynch rd. 3) when vivax was being lynched instead of Koshi he made the thread cancer, pushed Yamato and then soon as people started talking about lynching Koshi h e jumped on Koshi with his Scum read to lynch him. 4) he removed Obi from the lynch conversation and started putting me forward as a lynch prior to lylo setting up for this. 5) has seemingly forgotten about his Yamato Scum read of the past only focusing on me. | ||
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Its the right lynch here. I did post my reasonings for thinking he's scum did you take a look at them? | ||
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it was fun I thought I got had for a bit | ||
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anyway, thanks for the game all. And hope to see you back soon ritoky, finally got some sleep yay | ||
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