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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 01 2015 23:12 GMT
#12
well at least the re-roll didn't change my alignment otherwise I would be fucking pissed.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 01 2015 23:16 GMT
#14
On March 02 2015 08:13 Palmar wrote:
Yeah shit guys I rolled mafia this time, so don't expect anything.


dam sson guess we should bote you

##boat: palm
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 01 2015 23:30 GMT
#17
On March 02 2015 08:22 Palmar wrote:
Why did you boat me instead of voting me ritoky, are you trying to be joking while making sure I don't become your enemy?


ascribe dem motives bOIIIII
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 01 2015 23:41 GMT
#22
On March 02 2015 08:37 Palmar wrote:
By the way if you want to actually make me consider you as a townie ritoky you should probably start posting more sensibly. When you get lynched you won't have an excuse for being the poor sod that wasted our day 1.


you realize how utterly stupid this post is right? like I really hope you do. you want to post more sensibly about the first 3 posts of the game? you realize the utter trash of that right? like I know you're not that bad of a player.

sod is a+ though, would have preferred tosser though.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 02 2015 00:05 GMT
#28
On March 02 2015 08:56 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On March 02 2015 08:37 Palmar wrote:
By the way if you want to actually make me consider you as a townie ritoky you should probably start posting more sensibly. When you get lynched you won't have an excuse for being the poor sod that wasted our day 1.


you realize how utterly stupid this post is right? like I really hope you do. you want to post more sensibly about the first 3 posts of the game? you realize the utter trash of that right? like I know you're not that bad of a player.

sod is a+ though, would have preferred tosser though.

The fact that I'm getting through to you and making you angry just reinforces my belief that I am right.


I just want to help you become a better player.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 02 2015 00:12 GMT
#29
for palmar:

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cheer up m8
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 02 2015 02:38 GMT
#51
On March 02 2015 10:59 Damdred wrote:
Because he said so silly goose.

I do think ritoky is town do far though


@damdred, what do you think of rsoul, trfel, superbia, and onegu and their subsequent reactions to my and palmar's little spat?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 02 2015 02:47 GMT
#53
On March 02 2015 11:41 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 11:06 rsoultin wrote:
On March 02 2015 10:59 Damdred wrote:
Because he said so silly goose.

I do think ritoky is town do far though


Lol, that's a different way to read Onegu's post xP May want to try again.

More seriously, I don't think I'd be trying to lynch any of the players right now :/ Maybe Truffle for lawlz. Yeah, Truffle for lawlz ^^
!!!

(whimpers on the floor, begging for mercy)

I agree with Damdred, Snickers feels most suspicious thus far.
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 09:27 Snickers wrote:
On March 02 2015 07:35 KelsierSC wrote:
i'm surprised this thread is necessary

User was temp banned for this post.


Why are we not lynching kelsier.

Also ff knows about this.
Reasoning is because there is almost no town incentive to ask for a lynch on a player who is physically incapable of posting. Especially this early into Day 1. While I can see it as a joke, I'm a bit suspicious.

I don't think that Palmar's opening is much more likely to come from mafia than town, but he still deserves a small hill to climb for it. And I am a tad surprised at someone complaining about nonsense three posts into the thread, while I actually found ritoky's posting to be (only slightly) more useful than the nonsense posting in the earlier game.


Firstly, I think the bolded is a double negative so I have no idea what you're trying to say; it seems to me like you think he is more town now?

If so, how did you get from here:

On March 02 2015 09:48 Trfel wrote:
Hey, I play Protoss, that's insulting.....

I'm liking a Palmar lynch right now.


to where you are now with 0 posts from palmar in between?

Also, what the hell is a hill to climb?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 02 2015 02:54 GMT
#58
On March 02 2015 11:51 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 11:38 ritoky wrote:
On March 02 2015 10:59 Damdred wrote:
Because he said so silly goose.

I do think ritoky is town do far though


@damdred, what do you think of rsoul, trfel, superbia, and onegu and their subsequent reactions to my and palmar's little spat?


How about prp's lack of reaction to....pretty much everything? lol



Not really interested in that at the moment, more interested in people lobbing around palmar is mafia reads like it is nothing; because I believe he is very much so the opposite.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 02 2015 03:47 GMT
#62
On March 02 2015 12:12 rsoultin wrote:
@ritoky

Okay, I get where you're coming from. His posts didn't strike me as anything deserving of a lynching, either.


Which part of them?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 02 2015 04:04 GMT
#64
On March 02 2015 12:48 Snickers wrote:
I am being ignored.


Because you aren't doing anything?

You didn't explain why you want to lynch kelsier (now damdred) so I have 0 clue what you're talking about and said:

On March 02 2015 11:48 Snickers wrote:
It wasn't a joke. But I feel like these players so far cannt tell what are jokes and what arnt


Which players, and what does that tell you about their alignment?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 02 2015 04:47 GMT
#68
On March 02 2015 13:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 12:47 ritoky wrote:
On March 02 2015 12:12 rsoultin wrote:
@ritoky

Okay, I get where you're coming from. His posts didn't strike me as anything deserving of a lynching, either.


Which part of them?


???

Are you seriously asking me which part of Palmar's posts don't look like they're coming from scum, or what? I could go into the WIFOM of the low likelihood of scum claiming scum then saying we should all be serious if you really want me to, but this is pretty duh xP


Why is it wrong to ask you to justify your position? You had a pretty negative initial reaction to his posts, and have now arrived at a position of him leaning or being town; I want to know what part of the posts changed your opinion or makes you believe isn't mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 02 2015 04:48 GMT
#69
On March 02 2015 13:45 Snickers wrote:
Whoa slow down.


okay, just for you.

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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 02 2015 04:55 GMT
#71
On March 02 2015 13:48 Snickers wrote:
Slower

Sped up turtles too fast.

Why are you wasting posts?


[image loading]

better?

is there such a thing as "wasting posts"? I suppose that is a question of the existential sort.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 02 2015 05:21 GMT
#75
meh dunno about that post, a little defensive and targeting low hanging fruit, but eh. dunno.

palmar is town because of these two posts:

On March 02 2015 08:55 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 08:40 rsoultin wrote:
Lol, this from the trolly disappearing Palmar posting in Icelandic (is that what the language is called)?

Are you trying to say that your scum claim was no-nonsense?

I let that one slide because I wasn't in the thread yet to establish my no nonsense stuff. It's only when ritoky continued that I felt like something shitty was going on.


On March 02 2015 08:56 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On March 02 2015 08:37 Palmar wrote:
By the way if you want to actually make me consider you as a townie ritoky you should probably start posting more sensibly. When you get lynched you won't have an excuse for being the poor sod that wasted our day 1.


you realize how utterly stupid this post is right? like I really hope you do. you want to post more sensibly about the first 3 posts of the game? you realize the utter trash of that right? like I know you're not that bad of a player.

sod is a+ though, would have preferred tosser though.

The fact that I'm getting through to you and making you angry just reinforces my belief that I am right.


regardless of how shitty his read is, he sincerely believes he has "caught me" with a lot of conviction and pushes forward with it. don't see mafia making posts like that especially this early on.

superbia is probably town for mind melding me about trfel.

no strong opinions on anyone else at this point, going to sleep.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 02 2015 22:30 GMT
#150
does anyone know prp's meta well? cuz his usefulness in this iteration of the game vs the last is a pretty large difference; is that alignment indicative for him?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 02 2015 22:46 GMT
#153
@robik

On March 03 2015 05:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Signup List
5 Trfel
6 prplhz
7 Onegu
8 Alakaslam
10 MysteryMeat1
11 Oatsmaster

People I could lynch today.

Trfel - weird content. I was able to clear in previous game. not able to this game
Prplhz - why me? fry me
Onegu - not sure why but would maybe lynch
Slam - not sure why but would maybe lynch
MM1 - don't want to lynch but lack of content is disturbing
Oats - i might just be bitter cause he was a meanie to me last game and tried tunneling me


trfelz - would lynch for unexplained flip on palmar read and this post:

On March 02 2015 12:03 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 11:47 ritoky wrote:
On March 02 2015 11:41 Trfel wrote:
On March 02 2015 11:06 rsoultin wrote:
On March 02 2015 10:59 Damdred wrote:
Because he said so silly goose.

I do think ritoky is town do far though


Lol, that's a different way to read Onegu's post xP May want to try again.

More seriously, I don't think I'd be trying to lynch any of the players right now :/ Maybe Truffle for lawlz. Yeah, Truffle for lawlz ^^
!!!

(whimpers on the floor, begging for mercy)

I agree with Damdred, Snickers feels most suspicious thus far.
On March 02 2015 09:27 Snickers wrote:
On March 02 2015 07:35 KelsierSC wrote:
i'm surprised this thread is necessary

User was temp banned for this post.


Why are we not lynching kelsier.

Also ff knows about this.
Reasoning is because there is almost no town incentive to ask for a lynch on a player who is physically incapable of posting. Especially this early into Day 1. While I can see it as a joke, I'm a bit suspicious.

I don't think that Palmar's opening is much more likely to come from mafia than town, but he still deserves a small hill to climb for it. And I am a tad surprised at someone complaining about nonsense three posts into the thread, while I actually found ritoky's posting to be (only slightly) more useful than the nonsense posting in the earlier game.


Firstly, I think the bolded is a double negative so I have no idea what you're trying to say; it seems to me like you think he is more town now?

If so, how did you get from here:

On March 02 2015 09:48 Trfel wrote:
Hey, I play Protoss, that's insulting.....

I'm liking a Palmar lynch right now.


to where you are now with 0 posts from palmar in between?

Also, what the hell is a hill to climb?
I don't find his statements particularly alignment indicative? Probably slightly more likely to be scum than town, but not that significant.

I like a Palmar lynch right now not because I think he is scum, but because he deserves it. Hence the "hill to climb", ie forcing a little bit of effort to make up for giving him a pass for his scum claim. And it's fun to do.

But he'd probably burn me alive if I voted for him while not calling him scum, and I'm not really eager to get wagoned on Day 1 after my experience last game.


That is not really a sentiment that comes out of a VT's mouth imo.

prp - being useless, want to know if uselessness is alignment indicative; could be convinced to lynch because of the disparity between this and last game.

onegu, mm1, oats - honestly don't remember a single post. probably not a good thing for them

slam - he isn't overwhelmingly town to me yet and if he isn't by the end of the day he is probably mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 02 2015 22:52 GMT
#155
also damdred is either town or pocketing me so hard with his soul read.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 00:20 GMT
#171
On March 03 2015 09:14 rsoultin wrote:
Slam lovely I'm sorry that you're not town this game :/


what made you arrive here from "boring boring boring" as your read on slam earlier?

also, why did you vote for slam when you did? you hadn't mentioned him in your filter up to that point.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 00:30 GMT
#174
On March 03 2015 09:27 Alakaslam wrote:
That is why I am now under suspicion Ritoky. Why you do this instead of answering palmar? Trying to distract me?


What haven't I answered from palmar?

I think you're under suspicion because the town is stagnating super hard because very few people have a high effort level right now and even fewer are actually trying to solve the game. And town slam is a sideline kinda guy, but he gets in the fray when things start stagnating, but you're still on the sidelines.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 02:16 GMT
#183
On March 03 2015 10:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 19:39 Palmar wrote:
I don't think we need any more explanation.

Just to add on top of it, ritoky's read is based on Palmar "sincerely believes he has "caught me" with a lot of conviction and pushes forward with it." and he hasn't come back to the thread since, so by default it's a terrible read.

Not to mention he apparently let my scumclaim slide and focused on ritoky, which makes no sense in the context. Except maybe he didn't want to start shit with me because I can be a pita



Who cares about scum claims in the first pages of a thread? Seen it done as both alignments, could give 2 shits about it.

He thinks my read is bad, well I think my read is good and his is bad.

All of this I believe I have said before, so what exactly did I not answer?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 02:20 GMT
#184
On March 03 2015 10:14 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 10:00 prplhz wrote:
12

On March 03 2015 09:58 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
On March 03 2015 08:22 Damdred wrote:
if you can explain why I would like to hear it.

MM is a total classic low hanging fruit, even if you roll mafia it doesn't change the fact he still fits into that. He looks like scum even as confirmed town to a ton of people. Theres nothing that can be done with that.


T.T


I like robik, snickers, and palmar for now.

WE should lynch the purple guy. Its annoying how he counts his posts.

What this guy is saying here is "hi, i didn't read the thread".

##Vote MysteryMeat1

Only scum don't read the thread.


Also can you elaborate on how exactly i didn't read the thread?


Because you seem completely uninvested in the game, aren't trying to push the game forward, gave reads that are sheeping a lot of other players' reads and your only justification for any of those reads is you don't like how some1 posts a counter for their posts in a post limit game.....so I suppose I can see why he thinks you are not reading, you've given no strong indication that you are.

MM1 what do you think of rsoul?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 02:53 GMT
#198
On March 03 2015 11:33 prplhz wrote:
14

@ritoky Do you really want to lynch me because KelsierSC isn't here to get me riled with him scummy nonsense?

@Snickers Why did you want to lynch KelsierSC?


dunno anymore at this point. earlier you were active and useless which was a stark contrast to the last game where you were active and useful; so i was interested in the difference leaning scummy on you. now you're doing more except i don't like this push on MM1 that much. back to null for now.

i think my lynches right now are 1) trf and 2) slam.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 02:57 GMT
#201
you realize you're talking to the guy who meta-read kelsier as mafia on like page 6 right?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 22:18 GMT
#336
@robik why prp over slam?

trf looks okay now, moved up from my top lynch spot, i said it earlier: if slam doesn't feel super town by the end of the day he is probably mafia. he doesn't feel super town. i read his recent post and said "is that it?" out loud.

##vote: slam
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 22:23 GMT
#338
On March 03 2015 13:56 Damdred wrote:
If you stopped complaining and just answering when people asked you a simple question you wouldn't have so many people annoyed at you in the game. I've read the thread theres not much to it, you have done an excellent job of shitting it up with avoiding simple questions. You have stone wall'd and made it an absolute chore to figure out what alignment either you or pr is.

So stop being an ass and talk instead of being bm


damdred is town for sure, he is far more diplomatic when mafia and doesn't do emotional outbursts like this; he saves that for the mafiaQT
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 22:56 GMT
#366
On March 04 2015 07:47 Superbia wrote:
prp looks like an okay-ish lynch. Ritoky looks a little better imo. Asks regarding prp's meta early on, seemingly questioning his alignment, but completely falls off. Doesn't want to vote him over slam, even though his vote on slam has a very weak reason.


i have the best read on slam of anyone who plays on these forums frequently, slam is mafia here. vote him.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 22:58 GMT
#370
On March 04 2015 07:58 Superbia wrote:
Vote for prp or claim scum. Pick one.


vote for slam or claim scum. pick one.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 23:07 GMT
#387
ARE YOU GUYS FUCKING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW YOU PIECES OF SHIT ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SHEEP MY FUCKING NEAR PERFECT SLAM READ

jesus christ. vigi shoot the shit out of slam if you exist, don't even think twice. send the action in right fucking now. 0 hesitation.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 23:11 GMT
#399
On March 04 2015 08:09 Palmar wrote:
I love how ritoky was calm and kept his words short only to flip out AFTER the fact.

100% mafia.


because slam was leading until 45 seconds out, you fucking twit.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 23:17 GMT
#409
you're right, saying vote slam or claim scum isn't pushing him.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 23:24 GMT
#413
On March 04 2015 08:22 Alakaslam wrote:
Palmar why did you not wisdom the people to ritoky?

You foolished them to Prp

I had no read on Prp so I speak from no authority but

Ritoky


just die, you're not town, quit pretending.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 23:35 GMT
#416
On March 04 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
Post-game cred scum team:

Alakaslam, Superbia, MM

And slam...dude, if you're town please play, cause otherwise you'll send us all down the wrong path. And by "us all" I mean mostly "me" but whatevs.


^^^^^

exactly where i am at.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 03 2015 23:36 GMT
#417
except for the part about slam, he is mafia regardless of his play in the coming night/day
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 04 2015 01:15 GMT
#427
i am still baffled as to why slam is alive....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 04 2015 01:24 GMT
#428
still upset.

ugh, there's probably 1 between rsoul and superbia.

rsoul why did you switch and then make this stupid post about regretting it and how you thought slam was mafia afterwards? why the hell would you switch if you felt that way?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 04 2015 02:47 GMT
#440
On March 04 2015 11:15 Snickers wrote:
They read me as town because If I am scum the game is alrdy over.

If u want the real reason it's cause I'm not a dumbass


you voted prp instead of slam, the 2nd sentence here can't be true.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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March 04 2015 02:53 GMT
#442
On March 04 2015 11:49 Snickers wrote:
Yea but look who cant convince people to vote who they are trying to get lynched.


I told someone at work earlier, "these idiots didn't lynch slam, I can't even comprehend it" she told me "i don't know what you're talking about, but dumb people listen to dumb people all the time"
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ritoky
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March 04 2015 05:34 GMT
#461
On March 04 2015 13:44 rsoultin wrote:
obviously my vote looks the worst xP explain to me why it's scummy, damdred. I mean even if slam is scum i'd have to be high or insane to make the play I did as scum. meh


you do realize that there was 0 opportunity to save slam until superbia moved his vote like 2 mins before the deadline, then you did and he was saved. so uhhhh it isn't that unreasonable of a play for mafia to make.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 04 2015 05:38 GMT
#462
On March 04 2015 12:03 Snickers wrote:
I dont get ur point.

And I dont want to know about your personal life.


I am saying you're deep in palmar and robik's pockets and you just mafia sided and missed scum.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 02:28 GMT
#553
thank you based truffle god.

good shot.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 02:29 GMT
#554
rsoul has already explained hers, but I would like an explanation from MM1 and superbia as to why they decided to move their votes onto prp.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 03:16 GMT
#564
town:
ritoky
damdred
trfelz

likely town:
rsoul

everyone else

figuring out the everyone else atm.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 03:19 GMT
#566
On March 05 2015 12:17 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky I tried to do vote analysis a bit and got yelled at, what do you think of what I did and conclussions on robik, onegu, oats and super if you don't mind.


i plan to look at it here in about 30 minutes, am leaving work on my way home so i could only give it a cursory glance before.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 04:24 GMT
#603
@damdred hrm i kinda agree with a lot of what you are saying in your vote analysis, it is kidna where i am at too except your priorities are different than mine.

like i think this crap that superbia is spouting is absolute nonsense. that there was no mafia on the prp wagon? it is hard as fuck for me to believe that a mafia was magically saved and it was all town. sorry not buyin them wolf tickets. i think it just comes down to the fact that he thinks i am mafia for no reason worth mentioning, and that i not only pushed for slam, said vote him or claim scum, but then called for a vigi shot on him

i think at least 1 mafia swapped so there is 1 between rsoul, mm1, and super

i think we should pressure robik, but if he is town he will invoke the never get mislynched as town mode and we will not go thru with it.

onegu deserves to be a question mark he seems like he could be mafia playing like how i play when i am mafia where i vote early on a teammate for a meh reason and don't move, but could be town.

i think we should be solving which of the 3 that swapped are mafia this phase because it is very very unlikely that none of them were mafia.
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ritoky
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March 05 2015 07:15 GMT
#659
On March 05 2015 15:44 Onegu wrote:
Night kills are wifom. A vet was killed the votes are much more interesting.


and that post was wifom.
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ritoky
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March 05 2015 07:17 GMT
#660
On March 05 2015 15:05 rsoultin wrote:
I still kinda think ritoky is town


what dropped you down to kinda?
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 07:19 GMT
#662
any1 else notice the distinct lack of robik in the thread?

robik, by your analysis of your own meta; as mafia you can't keep your activity up. you mafia bro?
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ritoky
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March 05 2015 07:58 GMT
#673
On March 05 2015 16:47 IAmRobik wrote:
superbia and rsoul look bad
mm1 also looks bad
damdred's vote timing is bad, but at least he kept his vote on slam
oats didn't vote and is basically afk as far as I can tell.

I think we should lynch those people


of superbia, rsoul, and mm1; which do you think is most likely scum for their vote?
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ritoky
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March 05 2015 08:03 GMT
#674
On March 05 2015 16:57 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 16:41 Snickers wrote:
Oh who should he give thanks too



Me obviously. First to vote slam and I gave the formula to tell if slam is scum or not. I gave the meta reasons multiple times.


your read is incomplete, you need to take chupazinomics 347 to complete your degree in reading slam.

my read is the true read.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
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March 05 2015 08:16 GMT
#676
On March 05 2015 17:07 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 16:58 ritoky wrote:
On March 05 2015 16:47 IAmRobik wrote:
superbia and rsoul look bad
mm1 also looks bad
damdred's vote timing is bad, but at least he kept his vote on slam
oats didn't vote and is basically afk as far as I can tell.

I think we should lynch those people


of superbia, rsoul, and mm1; which do you think is most likely scum for their vote?

super>mm1>rsoul

not sure if rsoul would make it that fucking obv as mafia


what makes you put superbia above mm1, considering their play too
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 08:37 GMT
#678
@oats, give me reads; who is town? who is mafia?

post more so i can get a read on you.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
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March 05 2015 20:29 GMT
#721
On March 05 2015 22:47 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 16:17 ritoky wrote:
On March 05 2015 15:05 rsoultin wrote:
I still kinda think ritoky is town


what dropped you down to kinda?


Your presence in the thread wasn't as strong as I remembered it, but it got better. Got a problem with that? Like, seriously, we can pretend I'm a viable lynch here but I'm really not. You're basically saying I have the IQ of a Brussels sprout if you're calling me scum -shrugs- I expect you to work with me after work to get this lynch settled, and have some ideas of your own. If you're getting reads right now that's fine but at some point it's time to take a shit or get off the pot.


work and recently married eats up a lot more time than i normally expect.

the reason i am so critical of you is because i think you're town but.... and there lies my problem. i want a town read on you like i have on damdred or tfelz, but in my head i keep arriving at "seems really town, but" area. and i don't think it is a low iq move at all. playing as mafia is a team game and saving a teammate if you have the option is almost always better than not saving a teammate. but that's all procedural semantics.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
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March 05 2015 20:30 GMT
#722
thank you robik for being robik, i don't want to lynch robik today.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 20:56 GMT
#724
On March 04 2015 04:14 OnceKing wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

Alakaslam (5): Onegu, rsoultin, Damdred, prplhz, Trfel
ritoky (2): Palmar, Alakaslam
prplhz (2): IAmRobik, Snickers
Palmar (1): Superbia
OatsMaster (1): MysteryMeat1
Snickers (0): prplhz, Trfel
MysteryMeat1 (0): Snickers, prplhz

Not voted (2): ritoky, Oatsmaster

As it currently stands, Alakaslam is slated to be deported.
The voting thread is located here.
Countdown:



hrm this is an interesting vote.

So it goes:
me -> slam, palmar from ritoky -> prp, mm1 from oats -> prp, superbia from palm -> prp, rsoul from slam -> prp

mm1 reason for oats vote:

On March 04 2015 03:38 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
##Vote: Oatsmaster

Hi oats, gimme some love


translation: vote on the lurker

mm1 reason for switch:

On March 04 2015 04:51 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Then I shall follow you robik and vote for prp, or would you have me keep my vote on oats?


sheeps robik even though robik has been on prp for a long time; does somewhat line up with his only read in the game though: that being robik is town.

superbia reason for palm vote:

On March 02 2015 09:22 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 08:35 Palmar wrote:
Btw, I'm going to suggest we keep a massively no-nonsense town atmosphere this game with strong emphasis on policy lynching people who refuse to take part in the game.

Every vote should be backed with reasons, there should be absolutely no trolling of any kind. Lying, fake claims etc should all be punished with a lynch. It's going to make for such a better environment to scumhunt in if we actively discourage shennies.


Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 08:13 Palmar wrote:
Yeah shit guys I rolled mafia this time, so don't expect anything.


Yeah, you're fucked either way.

##Vote: Palmar


joke vote? wonder why it took him so long to move it if this was a joke vote, especially seeing that palmar appeared to be his top town. obsessed with lynching me, but no real effort level put into it.

reason for switch onto prp:

On March 04 2015 07:47 Superbia wrote:
prp looks like an okay-ish lynch. Ritoky looks a little better imo. Asks regarding prp's meta early on, seemingly questioning his alignment, but completely falls off. Doesn't want to vote him over slam, even though his vote on slam has a very weak reason.


weak reason, moreso seems to just want to sheep palmar.

rsoul reason for voting slam:

On March 03 2015 09:34 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:20 ritoky wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:14 rsoultin wrote:
Slam lovely I'm sorry that you're not town this game :/


what made you arrive here from "boring boring boring" as your read on slam earlier?

also, why did you vote for slam when you did? you hadn't mentioned him in your filter up to that point.


tone read

boring slam is a scum slam

he contributed nothing and just randomly sheeped palmar (maybe y'all can tell if palmar's serious or not about lynching you but I sure can't)

this latest post was a bunch of nothing again. it wasn't a change in reads at all lol just reaffirming the one I already had; i'm not going to vote to lynch someone I don't think is scum


a form of a meta/thread presence read.

reason for switching to prp:

On March 04 2015 07:59 rsoultin wrote:
they may both be scum. palmar's reason is good enough

and ill get back to you after flip, super xP why you'd expect me to have a read on you right now is amusing


she went from having so much faith in her own read that she was telling others to vote slam to being so unconfident in her own read and instead sheeping palmar's read because it is "good enough" and he "probably knows better". like what is with this tonal shift and deference away from her own read? i don't think she is more likely mafia than the other two, but i can't shake that there is something amiss in this.

bonus material:

this is what keeps me having the "but" on rsoul, posts like this:

On March 03 2015 14:19 rsoultin wrote:
TRUFFLE

VOTE SLAM WITH ME IF YOU'RE TOWN

if not, please carry on and be dumb xP snickers obviously isn't the best lynch today


how did she get from this place to a place where she swaps to save slam? at this point she seems so adamant about slam...this kinda stuff just keeps giving me pause throughout her game.

conclusion:

i think superbia is the most likely scum here. i think he would have gladly left his vote jokingly on palmar the entire phase or placed it on me if he actually believed in his read, especially since palmar was willing to vote and push on me (at the very least early on). i think he saw an opportunity to tie the vote and potentially sway someone to saving a scum buddy and did so.

##vote: superbia
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 21:11 GMT
#733
to further that case since there isn't much to it:

supberia's day 1 doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

On March 02 2015 09:22 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 08:35 Palmar wrote:
Btw, I'm going to suggest we keep a massively no-nonsense town atmosphere this game with strong emphasis on policy lynching people who refuse to take part in the game.

Every vote should be backed with reasons, there should be absolutely no trolling of any kind. Lying, fake claims etc should all be punished with a lynch. It's going to make for such a better environment to scumhunt in if we actively discourage shennies.


Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 08:13 Palmar wrote:
Yeah shit guys I rolled mafia this time, so don't expect anything.


Yeah, you're fucked either way.

##Vote: Palmar


I am assuming this is a joke vote on palmar, because of the following:

On March 04 2015 07:33 Superbia wrote:
This game feels super slow, even though I haven't been playing at all. Palmar, where you at? Give me a nice, concise list pls.


He has a very long departure from the thread and rather than attempt to engage the thread in any way he just seeks out palmar (the person he is voting for) for reads and likely to get in his good graces. he then sits there and parrots palmar and his sentiments basically the entire rest of the day, with things like:

On March 04 2015 07:49 Superbia wrote:
Can we switch to ritoky?


and

On March 04 2015 07:48 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 07:45 Palmar wrote:
ritoky switch or I lynch you tomorrow.


K we're on the same page.


yet even through all of this he apparently doesn't have a strong town read on palmar even though he is basically sheeping his every word:

On March 04 2015 07:51 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I guess. I don't really have a solid read on anyone but Snickers. Snickers is town.

Also RSO probably mafia for OGI reasons.


beyond that if you read the end of the day phase to me it reads as superbia basically bullying and pressuring rsoul into a vote swap, especially after it becomes clear that i won't be budged through his threats.

to me his day 1 just doesn't make any sense from a town perspective. i think he doesn't believe in his read on me (which is the only thing he seems to have atm) or else he really would have pushed forward on it by now. he is the mafia who switched.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
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March 05 2015 21:16 GMT
#735
[QUOTE]On March 05 2015 12:02 Superbia wrote:
I think it's probably robik. Robik needs to claim PR or die.
[QUOTE]

if you're town, why aren't you pursuing this at all? like seriously, it isn't like robik isn't around right now. it isn't like robik hasn't had thread interactions.

you have 2 reads: robik = pr or mafia, ritoky = mafia. you're not even trying to push through either. i don't see you solving the game in the slightest. and now you're whining? w/e dude.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
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March 05 2015 21:16 GMT
#736
On March 05 2015 12:02 Superbia wrote:
I think it's probably robik. Robik needs to claim PR or die.


if you're town, why aren't you pursuing this at all? like seriously, it isn't like robik isn't around right now. it isn't like robik hasn't had thread interactions.

you have 2 reads: robik = pr or mafia, ritoky = mafia. you're not even trying to push through either. i don't see you solving the game in the slightest. and now you're whining? w/e dude.

fixed from above
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ritoky
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March 06 2015 03:58 GMT
#769
On March 06 2015 12:45 Snickers wrote:
So why do people think ritoky is town.


would you like the wifom truth reason?

cuz damdred is alive.
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ritoky
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March 06 2015 04:31 GMT
#771
On March 06 2015 12:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 12:27 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
You just give me the same feeling as hell in a cell, you also found it weird for me to vote for you when you hadn't posted for 40 hours. I also think its kind of weird that out of the three of us (robik, you, me) all believe theres a potential mafia between us.

Its weird when you dont follow up on it or actually convince anyone that Im scum.


^ kinda agree with this. like you accuse oats of being scum, then you say it is because he is similar to a previous game but don't give examples or push it/him for any more info?????
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
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March 06 2015 19:44 GMT
#798
why are there literally 0 other cases made this day phase?

I made one on super, and everyone just seems content with it....that makes me a bit uneasy.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
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March 06 2015 20:03 GMT
#799
Just read your filter, could you explain these two:

On March 06 2015 19:02 Onegu wrote:
I'd be ok with a super lynch. I'm 90% sure last 2 scum are in snickers, mm1, and super. With outside shots at robik and oats but I really really doubt it.


and why the mm1 vote over a super vote if you're not pushing mm1 and content with a super lynch?
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ritoky
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March 06 2015 20:20 GMT
#802
oh god, I am getting cold feet boys....having second thoughts here.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 06 2015 20:23 GMT
#804
yeah, I am not about that lynch robik lyfe, but I am less certain on superbia now...

also robik, why are you not voting for anyone?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
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March 06 2015 20:31 GMT
#807
can you read onegu and snickers for me.

also, why that feeling toward oats and not mm1 who is basically doing the same thing as oats but without the real pushing?
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ritoky
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March 06 2015 20:31 GMT
#808
well that post looks stupid now
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 06 2015 21:04 GMT
#813
robik, you have a vigi shot right now, you can shoot super, onegu, or mm1 who are you shooting?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 06 2015 21:12 GMT
#817
On March 07 2015 06:08 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 06:04 ritoky wrote:
robik, you have a vigi shot right now, you can shoot super, onegu, or mm1 who are you shooting?

why do you put me in these tough spots? I'd shoot rsoul because I think that her intentions could be impure and she will be hard to lynch and should could be mafia. The other 3 are probably easily lynchable.


because I don't know if mafia superbia makes that post he just makes with an impending lynch, and I have question marks about it and my alternatives atm are mm1 and onegu.

I really had no opinion of onegu until I read his filter and realized he had no strong opinions at this point in the game and hardly pushes anything.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 06 2015 21:59 GMT
#823
why does no1 seem to care????? jesus am I the only one trying to figure this stupid game out at the deadline?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 06 2015 22:01 GMT
#824
truffle, I am not as convinced on superbia as I was before...and I am really not a fan of a robik lynch right now...

I really want to shennanie onto mm1 or onegu, but I don't want robik to get lynched as a consequence.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 06 2015 22:33 GMT
#830
On March 07 2015 07:31 IAmRobik wrote:
90% chance super flips town at this point. Not willing to shenany because i'll end up getting lynched, but the fact that there's 0 opposition to the 2nd of 3 mafia getting lynch leads me to believe he's town.


pretty much where I am at too....fuck...where the shit is damdred?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 06 2015 22:35 GMT
#832
if it's you me and robik I think that's the majority at this point.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 06 2015 22:37 GMT
#835
4 super 2 robik, 1 on some other ppl
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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March 06 2015 22:37 GMT
#836
mm1 has a vote on him from onegu
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 06 2015 23:10 GMT
#862
that was my fault on both ends. fuck me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 07 2015 00:46 GMT
#877
On March 07 2015 09:44 rsoultin wrote:
bs damdred. 5 mins before. but regardless its tinfoil for a reason and i got oneg confused with mm as it is. the point is there was no way in hell anyone but super was getting lynched.


why were you unwilling to move?
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 07 2015 00:56 GMT
#879
On March 07 2015 07:55 Damdred wrote:
Everyone vote mm right now. If you are town vote mm with me go go


On March 07 2015 07:39 rsoultin wrote:
i'm here but will only switch to MM...I think Onegu is town for shit reasons, but i do and don't have the time to verify to change opinion


I did, why were you unwilling to move?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 07 2015 01:23 GMT
#882
On March 07 2015 10:06 rsoultin wrote:
And you just disappeared for half an hour because? Seriously, ritoky, don't you start that hypocrisy shit with me. You, me, Damdy and Robik still wouldn't have been enough to save Super, and that's assuming we all could actually switch in the last 5 mins.

Damdred only switched to MM after Onegu moved his vote. -_- Really, it's like you guys can't count.


I was here for an hour trying to convince people, and when 4 separate people told me it wasn't happening I went to take a shit. And when I came back I owned up to it being my fault.

I want to know why you were willing and then all the sudden "he had to die" and etc. It's a tonal shift.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 08 2015 05:46 GMT
#995
On March 07 2015 17:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Multiple people did nothing yesterday, so annoying right Robik.

Ritoky, why did you vote slam so late? You seemed pretty set on him.


i was away from the thread for like 20-24 hours i think.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 08 2015 05:58 GMT
#997
On March 04 2015 07:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

prplhz (6): IAmRobik, Snickers, Palmar, MysteryMeat1, Superbia, rsoultin
Alakaslam (5): Onegu, rsoultin, Damdred, prplhz, Trfel, ritoky
Palmar (0): Superbia
ritoky (1): Palmar, Alakaslam
Oatsmaster (0): MysteryMeat1
Snickers (0): prplhz, Trfel
MysteryMeat1 (0): Snickers, prplhz

Not voted (1): Oatsmaster


The following is the state of the day 1 lynch right before I vote on slam.

On March 04 2015 04:14 OnceKing wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

Alakaslam (5): Onegu, rsoultin, Damdred, prplhz, Trfel
ritoky (2): Palmar, Alakaslam
prplhz (2): IAmRobik, Snickers
Palmar (1): Superbia
OatsMaster (1): MysteryMeat1
Snickers (0): prplhz, Trfel
MysteryMeat1 (0): Snickers, prplhz

Not voted (2): ritoky, Oatsmaster

As it currently stands, Alakaslam is slated to be deported.
The voting thread is located here.
Countdown:




On March 07 2015 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 2 Vote Count

Superbia (6): Trfel, ritoky, rsoultin, Snickers, IAmRobik, Onegu, IAmRobik
IAmRobik (3): Damdred, Oatsmaster, MysteryMeat1, Superbia
MysteryMeat1 (1): Onegu, Damdred, IAmRobik
Damdred (0): Snickers

As it currently stands, Superbia is slated to be deported.
The voting thread is located here.
Countdown:


THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING STUFF!

If Onegu's claim is legit; which as of now it is uncc'd by ANY PR, then that means the vote on slam day 1 was 100% town. Every single player's vote who was on slam at the end of the day is town. It is 2 dead confirmed, me, and 2 uncc'd PRs.

Hold on, going to examine this a lot more closely, more to come!
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 08 2015 06:03 GMT
#1000
100% if there is another PR they should claim; are you even joking right now?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 08 2015 06:07 GMT
#1003
On March 08 2015 15:04 Snickers wrote:
........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Read my filter for today.


3 town sided PR in a 13 person game seems imbalanced to me.

also your filter is calling basically everyone in the thread scum today.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 08 2015 06:15 GMT
#1008
what are you smoking? look at the vote on slam day 1.

it is 2 uncc'd PRs, and 3 confirmed townies.

that means there is 2 mafia in robik, snickers, oats, rsoul, and mm1

mm1 and rsoul switched in the process of saving slam so there is probably 1 in between them.

the other is between robik, oats, and snickers. with robik being the least likely based on my reads.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 08 2015 06:18 GMT
#1010
On March 08 2015 15:16 Snickers wrote:
ur not that smart.


good for you, i am going to continue solving the game now, you can go sit in the corner some more.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 08 2015 06:21 GMT
#1013
well you contributed to two straight townie lynches and are voted on a town right now, so you can't really accomplish less if you're town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 08 2015 06:24 GMT
#1017
i have never played with this guy before so i have no idea about how he plays in other games.

robik if you are here, snickers isn't claiming a PR, you called him a PR, can he be VT playing like this?

i know i have played super combative/antagonistic as mafia before kind of similar to how he is being.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 08 2015 06:33 GMT
#1022
MM1, I want you to as extensively as you can, walk me through your read on robik; because I just went through your filter and holy fuck it makes absolutely no sense.

On March 04 2015 04:23 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Lol Robik has to be town. He begs me to play this game then calls me scum d1


On March 06 2015 12:13 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Mafia:
Robik, he usually reads me fairly well even with my shit play, I know i haven't been as active and he hasn't been really pushing on me, but he's a mafia sided lean.


On March 06 2015 12:20 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Neutral Mafia
Robik


On March 07 2015 05:31 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
##VOTE Robik


On March 08 2015 14:20 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
well then i think robik is town for what its worth
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 08 2015 06:44 GMT
#1025
On March 08 2015 15:40 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
As you know I have taken quite the haitus from playing forum mafia. It's a lot of fun but i'm really terrible and it takes waaay too much time to play during school. I work 15 hours a week, go to school full time (double majoring), do research for a professor, and volunteer. However robik messages me on skype and goes I wanna play mafia with you so i'm like aight. For Robik to come out d1 and says he has a scum read on me means that he actually thinks im scum and not a mafia pushing a ml. Thats why I initially townread him for it.

However as you know robiks play is usually a lot more involved which set off a few red flags for me. However I realized robik is a bastard and would totes mcgoats do that. Now I'm claiming ogi and saying robik is town.

If i had to judge on a scale of 1-10 how town robik is in each of those posts it would go.

8, 4, 5, 3, 8. It was a moment of weakness but i'm really basing my read off of OGI and the fact that i've played DM with robik a bit. It's basically a selfish read but I think he's town.


so why did you turn to a robik wagon when you decided not to vote superbia instead of pushing for an oats or onegu wagon, since they were in your mafia category and not your neutral mafia category?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 08 2015 06:53 GMT
#1029
On March 08 2015 15:45 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Cause at that point I thought robik was more scummy over oats


so what at that juncture had oats done to put himself above robik or robik done to put himself below oats?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 08 2015 07:05 GMT
#1035
MM do you have any non-gut/OGI reads? other than uncc'd PRs
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 09 2015 07:59 GMT
#1134
sorry about my inactivity this weekend, I just got home; I got married recently, and this weekend was my "honeymoon"
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 09 2015 08:01 GMT
#1135
why the hell does anyone think robik is mafia???????

the guy was willing to risk getting lynched to switch off of a target he thought was town at the last moment. when him and damdred move off of superbia, if superbia cares about living or is mafia there then he can move his vote onto robik and robik is at risk. like....that's a stupidly stupidly stupid play to make as mafia...why the hell would you put yourself at risk of being lynched like that over a pretty much consensus lynch....rsoul what the hell you doing?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 09 2015 09:13 GMT
#1139
how is the switchback shady? explain that to me. he switches thinking I am here and you will move since you said you would be willing to move to mm1. I am afk shitting at this point since they told me it wasn't happening. only damdred moves, it doesn't happen; he moves back. are you saying that level of self preservation is scummy?

also if you can make that play as mafia then you have more balls than I do as mafia.

also there was something robik said to me in the conversation where I was asking direct questions at him and then said I won't lynch robik today that I am pretty sure is a town tell that I have discovered of his. not really gonna share it though, since if it is true it is a baller read.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 09 2015 09:17 GMT
#1140
also the question isn't about your balls as mafia or my balls as mafia, it is about robik's balls as mafia. and robik doesn't give enough fucks to make that elaborate of a play as mafia imo.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 09 2015 09:24 GMT
#1142
wait what? he is getting modkilled?????

for the insults? fuck my life.....this game is depressing me right now.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 09 2015 19:43 GMT
#1155
i kinda prefer a mm1 lynch to a snickers lynch....he doesn't really have any reads this far into the game, he was one of those who swapped to save slam, and i am more interested in lynching into the world of people who saved slam than those who didn't.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 09 2015 19:52 GMT
#1157
is any1 around for that mm1 switch lyfe?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 09 2015 19:56 GMT
#1159
On March 10 2015 04:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 04:43 ritoky wrote:
i kinda prefer a mm1 lynch to a snickers lynch....he doesn't really have any reads this far into the game, he was one of those who swapped to save slam, and i am more interested in lynching into the world of people who saved slam than those who didn't.


I never voted for slam in the first place. I sheeped robik who i thought was town at the time and ended up being town.


okay, if you're not mafia then convince me that rsoul is. cuz i am certain that at least 1 of you is mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 09 2015 20:03 GMT
#1162
basically trfel it comes down to the fact that superbia, rsoul, and mm1 were the votes that came in to save slam on day 1. it is a near impossible world in my mind that a mafia was saved in those conditions and none of the 3 votes that saved him were mafia. so in my mind there is guaranteed at least 1 mafia between rsoul and mm1.

if we look at the play, mm1's is underwhelming as i explained earlier; rsoul to me has felt "town, but" pretty much all game. like she has never broken from my leaning town into my overwhelmingly town area which at this stage is causing me to tinfoil, esp with a robik flip. to me that is just the better world to lynch into.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 09 2015 21:30 GMT
#1170
???? you believe that no mafia saved slam on day 1????? you SERIOUSLY believe that?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 09 2015 21:40 GMT
#1172
that was directed at mm1 who just said his scum team is snickers + oats.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 09 2015 23:39 GMT
#1187
-.-

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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 09 2015 23:46 GMT
#1189
I said it once and I will say it again. Let me use more aggressive language this time.

MM1 has his scum team as OATS and one of ritoky or snickers; and has for some time now. Now I am confirmed town for a lot of reasons so he is just wrong, but let us try to consider if he could POSSIBLY be coming from a town perspective. In his world, Oats is CONFIRMED MAFIA. His list isn't 2 of these 3 people. It is OATS and 1 of 2. Yet he has made 0 fucking pushes all game on a guy he has listed as confirmed mafia, and you guys wanted to lynch snickers cuz he was being a dick???? Fucking sigh. Fucking robik. Now we're in fucking lylo.

Before this night is over, since both uncc'd PRs are alive you need to make legacy posts, cuz 1 of the two of you is dying.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 10 2015 00:04 GMT
#1191
trfel, you're confirmed vigi. you don't need to defend yourself lol.

let's assume that onegu is medic as claimed since there's been no PR CC and I am assuming we are looking at a 2 town PR game which is a standard setup. (should I tinfoil about an unorthodox setup? hrmmm) Also Onegu, don't try cute shit, if you're medic; just save the confirmed vigi.

so there's 4 people in the game who are not confirmed to you: me, rsoul, oats, mm1

so you need to leave legacy reads or get every bit of info you need from those 4 people before the end of the night.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 10 2015 00:13 GMT
#1193
that's cool that you seem content with losing. I am not. if you're my other townie amongst the 4 of us then you need to get in my backpack.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 10 2015 00:22 GMT
#1196
because it is lylo, so this is the point where you re-evaluate the entire game, throw your previous reads aside to some degree and really try to find who the mafia is. in you I know I have a 100% trustworthy source of information for reads coming from a town perspective. in onegu it is like 98-99% trustworthy source.

so when I am re-evaluating and coming up with my reads from reading the other 3 people's entire filters it will be nice to have basically confirmed townies to compare what they read from their filters to what i read from their filters.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 10 2015 23:29 GMT
#1208
gonna do an extensive filter dive on the other 3 players later tonight when i am at my desktop.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 11 2015 08:46 GMT
#1225
Starting first with MM1:

all relevant mentions of oats in his filter:

Pretty much immediately upon entry, MM1 prods Oats for his entrance trying to elicit some reaction out of him.

On March 04 2015 03:38 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
##Vote: Oatsmaster

Hi oats, gimme some love


There is 0 follow-up and oats pretty much ignores the prod altogether, MM1 makes nothing of it and does not push for info or a read from this in the slightest.

On March 04 2015 04:51 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Then I shall follow you robik and vote for prp, or would you have me keep my vote on oats?


After coming back to the thread late in the day, MM1 does not try to pursue his line on oats at all, instead he elects to sheep robik who I believe he is town reading at this point (it changed a lot) and doesn't even seek out robik's thoughts on oats in the process of sheeping him. He clearly has no interest in determining Oats' alignment at this point.

On March 06 2015 12:13 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
So funny story robik, I actually came into 1000$ in scam money, had to call the police and talk to them. It was pretty exhausting.

I voted on prplhz cause I didnt have a good read on slam, I also thought robik was softing a power role or something and probably didn't even know if snickers was town or mafia and tried to frame him for the lolz. Like I said earlier I thought it was weird that rsoul had told prp that he was lacking a reaction and then blew up out of no where really. I was going to place my vote on prp regardless but decided to place it on oats to see if he would say something, however I believe when i placed the vote there was only like 4 hours left and I realized that was too late to pressure someone so i switched it to prp. At the time i was reading snickers and robik as town.

As for town reads:
Snickers
trfel
ritoky
rsoul

Mafia:
Robik, he usually reads me fairly well even with my shit play, I know i haven't been as active and he hasn't been really pushing on me, but he's a mafia sided lean.

Onegu - Seems very lynch happy


This next section is pretty wifom: If i was mafia: I would probably push a lynch on me or robik. If you wanted to deal with robik then you could probably push on him for his activity and then the 'fake' yelling that he got a warning for. Even easier than that would be me, I've never been mafia and I suck at all town roles.

im going back to reading



Here MM1 re-visits why he did not push on oats in the slightest claiming that he wanted a reaction from oats but he came back to the thread too late to really turn it into anything. Now this could be a legitimate excuse, and I actually do buy it for this phase, but this shit is like day 2/night 1 area....You didn't have time then, what about...I don't know....the entire rest of the game where you still didn't push for it?

Also note here that the #1 person that has "bugged" MM1 from the start of the game has been oats; yet in his initial reads post here he completely neglects to add him anywhere or explain why he is mafia. Further the person who he was sheeping/convinced him to move off of his read in robik had now suddenly become mafia for calling MM1 mafia. But just 7 minutes later we get another post:

On March 06 2015 12:20 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
also the other people I forgot to mention, I'm fine with damdred and just doing a quick look through super's filter it seemed like there was justification for his vote on prp and then tried to not get slam shot. Oats is oats and could be mafia, I think the last game we played together was cell which was basically me and HF being bitches to each other for like 300 posts and he turned out to be mafia. Hwever in that game iirc he didn't really play that much and he hasn' been playing a lot this game so he's a mafia lean

I'd probably put robik in the nuetral with a very slight scum lean

so for the recap

Town:
Snickers
tfel
ritoky
rsoul

Neutral Town:
Damdred

Neutral Mafia
Robik

Mafia
oats
super


An addendum to his reads post for people he forgot previously, just 7 minutes later (did someone check their own filter and realize they were being inconsistent?) Suddenly oats makes a return appearance AHEAD OF ROBIK who got a full sentence explanation, and why? "Because oats is oats and could be mafia".

On March 08 2015 14:53 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
robik, oats, and I all thought that one of the other two were scum. I'm fairly certain robik is town so based on that I would put oats pretty high up on my scum list. BS reason but idc.

I'm suprised no one has really been hard pushing me after damdred died. From my perspective that nk was set up to get me mislynched.

I really didn't like the superbia lynch, for his logic when it came to oats, robik, and I. I also agreed with the gut read on snickers.

Fun Fact* The first game (maybe second game) I played with snickers I got lynched the first thing i did was mesage chairman ray on skype and was like you and snickers are mafia.

I think that there is at least one scum on the slam wagon day1, and oats didn't vote and at the moment my scum team would be oats, ritoky/snickers


Here is where we begin to get into the realm of why MM1 is very likely mafia. Remember that read earlier that he never pushed for a response? Well this is it on steroids and it is going to get repeated in the following:

On March 08 2015 16:16 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I would vote on these three today oats and then snickers/ritoky, I liked rsouls and onegus reasoning so I would be fine with a snickers lynch.


So what MM1 is saying here is that he has narrowed the game down to oats and 1 of snickers/ritoky. Which means to him, oats is 100% confirmed mafia. If he said 2 of oats, ritoky, snickers it is a different story. MM1 at this point in the game believes oats to be confirmed mafia for a reason that he has not really explained other than the following: oats is oats, and MM1, robik, and oats can't all get on the same page so 1 of them has to be mafia. That is the extent of his read to this point. Now having a confirmed mafia in his sights, what does he do? Lynches into the 1 of 2 world that he believes exists. Makes absolutely 0 effort to convince people of or develop his read on someone he thinks is confirmed mafia and places 0 pressure and 0 push onto him. If you place youself in MM1's shoes as town (regardless of how he got to this place) and you are sitting here honestly believing there are two mafia left, 1 is DEFINITELY oats and the 2nd is between snickers and ritoky, can you reasonably justify his passivity? From a town perspective, I cannot justify it.

all relevant mentions of rsoul in his filter:

Mentions of rsoul are a bit more sporadic and very much more unfocused in MM1's filter.

On March 03 2015 11:36 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
My phone is about to die but with a quick glance tHrough Rsoul filter I'm not a huge fan


Very early in the game MM1 reads rsoul's filter, says she looks scummy for a non-descript reason and no evidence.

On March 03 2015 11:38 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I didn't say the mafia word once iirc. To me it seems that rsoul was like prp isn't reacting at all. Now prp is going way over the top if we lynch prp and he flips mafia I'd probably lynch rsoul


He then says he wants to lynch prp, and if prp flips mafia then rsoul should consequently be lynched. This happens before any interaction with oats. Now excuse my next bit because I am going to potentially tinfoil and wifom out of control.

Let's imagine for a moment an MM1 + rsoul team is the remaining mafia. This seems like an extremely deliberate setup to town read someone for the duration of the game for. You come into the thread, scum read your partner for an inconsequential reason, tie your partner's alignment to that of a townie who you know is a likely lynch candidate saying associatively if this guy is mafia, then so is she. When that person flips as town, you flip the read and clear your partner for days to come. It seems like a VERY deliberate tying of 2 players' alignments together for someone who at this point has basically 0 input in the entire game.

I bring this up only because the remaining is all of MM1's mentions of rsoul:

On March 06 2015 12:13 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
So funny story robik, I actually came into 1000$ in scam money, had to call the police and talk to them. It was pretty exhausting.

I voted on prplhz cause I didnt have a good read on slam, I also thought robik was softing a power role or something and probably didn't even know if snickers was town or mafia and tried to frame him for the lolz. Like I said earlier I thought it was weird that rsoul had told prp that he was lacking a reaction and then blew up out of no where really. I was going to place my vote on prp regardless but decided to place it on oats to see if he would say something, however I believe when i placed the vote there was only like 4 hours left and I realized that was too late to pressure someone so i switched it to prp. At the time i was reading snickers and robik as town.

As for town reads:
Snickers
trfel
ritoky
rsoul

Mafia:
Robik, he usually reads me fairly well even with my shit play, I know i haven't been as active and he hasn't been really pushing on me, but he's a mafia sided lean.

Onegu - Seems very lynch happy


This next section is pretty wifom: If i was mafia: I would probably push a lynch on me or robik. If you wanted to deal with robik then you could probably push on him for his activity and then the 'fake' yelling that he got a warning for. Even easier than that would be me, I've never been mafia and I suck at all town roles.

im going back to reading



On March 06 2015 12:20 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
also the other people I forgot to mention, I'm fine with damdred and just doing a quick look through super's filter it seemed like there was justification for his vote on prp and then tried to not get slam shot. Oats is oats and could be mafia, I think the last game we played together was cell which was basically me and HF being bitches to each other for like 300 posts and he turned out to be mafia. Hwever in that game iirc he didn't really play that much and he hasn' been playing a lot this game so he's a mafia lean

I'd probably put robik in the nuetral with a very slight scum lean

so for the recap

Town:
Snickers
tfel
ritoky
rsoul

Neutral Town:
Damdred

Neutral Mafia
Robik

Mafia
oats
super


On March 08 2015 16:16 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I would vote on these three today oats and then snickers/ritoky, I liked rsouls and onegus reasoning so I would be fine with a snickers lynch.


2 one word town reads and him saying he likes rsouls justification for a snickers lynch. A lynch, as I explained earlier, that is not a lynch of someone he believes is CONFIRMED mafia. Why is he content with following her into lynching someone when he believes Oats is confirmed mafia? From that point when he makes the associative read and subsequently prp flips town, rsoul is lock clear with no explanation for the remainder of the game for MM1. Now I find this ignoring of rsoul relevant because I want you to go MM1's filter and look for any interaction at all with slam before slam gets lynched. Did you look? If not, you will find absolutely 0. He completely ignored slam. Had 0 interaction, and 0 read on the person leading the votes for much of the day. He was one of the deciding votes that saved slam, yet said 0 about him while he was alive. It bothers me that he has a similar approach to rsoul where for the vast majority of the game he has simply ignored her existence.

Conclusions:

This is purely from examination of MM1's filter, I will examine it from the other sides shortly as well.

Is an MM1 + Oats world possible: yes

Why?

1) Prod on oats early on with no follow-up could be indicative of trying to find easy way to town read partner
2) Has had scum read on Oats for a long time and never pushed it
3) Has had Oats as confirmed mafia for more than 1 phase and been content to lynch others

Is an MM1 + rsoul world possible: yes

Why?

1) Deliberate association/tying of alignements
2) Completely ignoring her for near duration of the game

How likely is it that MM1 was with slam? highly

1) They had 0 interactions at all in the thread, scum ignoring a teammate is a very common thing particularly in inactive scum.
2) He cast one of the deciding votes that switched the lynch off of slam onto prp, then subsequently scum read the person who convinced him to swap.

Ultimately after reading MM1's filter and MM1's filter alone; I am at a place where I see him as capable of being scum with both other players, having play (particularly surrounding his oats interactions) that make absolutely no sense, and being easily paired with slam. There is a high chance he is scum.

I might get to oats' filter tonight before I sleep, no guarantees. rsoul's is long so that one is tomorrow for sure.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 11 2015 10:01 GMT
#1226
Second is Oats' filter:

Let us first dispense with the easy part: rsoul and slam in regards to Oats' filter

Oats was not here for the vote and made a whopping 2 posts on day 1. He then followed it up by saying he would totally lynch slam and stuff like that. Take it with a grain of salt, was all post flip and I could care less since anyone as any alignment can say that shit with 2 day posts and missing the vote. Essentially it ends up being inconclusive or hard to tell if he could have been with slam because...he just wasn't here at all.

Next we move to the one and only mention of rsoul in Oats' entire filter:

On March 09 2015 22:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2015 21:23 Onegu wrote:
Thoughts on rsoult in being mafia? I doubt it but the push on robik seemed really weird... Also the read flip on me n2 was kinda odd without much reason. She did push slam but didn't end up voteing him... Idk I think she is town but meh snickers is best lynch for today.

meh maybe, but the push on robik felt real and i doubt she wouldve continued after the outburst by robik if she was scum, so obvious that hes town after that.


His only thoughts on rsoul over the entire course of the game first and foremost have to be provoked from someone else, thus he likely would have continued ignoring her if not directly asked. Secondly, it is a town read for essentially pushing someone to the point of ragequitting, and then using non-commitall language at the end.

I find it incredibly strange that both MM1 and oats essentially ignored the living hell out of rsoul for the vast majority of the game even though she, myself, and robik were probably the 3 loudest people over the course of the game. That complete ignoring of her into a sudden crappy explained town read has me tinfoiling to some degree, but then completely scratching my head because they BOTH do it.

That is all. Not much to work with on that front. However on the other front, we arrive at seemingly the only thing Oats has show interest in the entire game, interactions with MM1 and robik.

On March 05 2015 15:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 15:05 rsoultin wrote:
I still kinda think ritoky is town...and mm could be based on his play. like I think a wagon on him right now is mostly policy, which seems like a complete cop out. oats either was scum afk when slam was being wagoned or couldn't be bothered to give a shit...not about claiming credit or about saving slam. I kinda lean toward general afk though and want to put him at null. why specifically is this his town game, snickers?

I wouldve totally lynched slam guys.
Credits pls.


Robik and MM, why did you vote me when I had only made, 1 or max 2 posts and why did you guys drop the push??


Here we have oats pinging out mm1 as well as robik for not continuing their pursuit of the line of questioning, we saw this in MM1's filter earlier where he did not pursue it. Well it appears Oats wanted to know why and prodded for an answer to it again on multiple occaisons, as can be seen here:

On March 05 2015 17:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 16:34 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm town. I also never nk palmar and always nk snickers. I actually had to go back page by page to find out what happened at night because:

1) I left work early
2) I picked up food and went to my parents house because it was my mom's bday
3) Ate with them and hung out there for a bit
4) Went to play poker
5) Came home and opened this up.

Are you really trying to say that my activity is lacking? I have been stating my opinions and I have been open and honest about my reads. I thought prplhz was more scummy than slam so I pushed him. I was wrong. A lot of people look good for the slam stuff. I would look into the people who switched from slam to prplhz when they figured out that prplhz could be the lynch instead of slam who looked like he was going to be lynched.

Of the top of my head I think mm1 or oats would be a good lynch, but i'm not 100% sure.
Also, has someone claimed the slam shot?

your activity has been lacking.


Slam shot has been claimed.

Why dont you look into the switches instead of just giving 'advice'.
Also, what happened to you rpush on me?


On March 06 2015 12:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 12:27 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
You just give me the same feeling as hell in a cell, you also found it weird for me to vote for you when you hadn't posted for 40 hours. I also think its kind of weird that out of the three of us (robik, you, me) all believe theres a potential mafia between us.

Its weird when you dont follow up on it or actually convince anyone that Im scum.


Oats does not let the scum read disappear and kept pursuing an answer to the question but the answer was never delivered at least on MM1's front. Instead MM1 simply scum reads Oats for the duration of the game, never replies to the occaisions when Oats asks him about it, and Oats seems content to scum read him right back and nothing more. It would seem to me like if one of these two was town and this happened, they would flip the fuck out and make a much larger deal of this than it was. MM1 was actively dodging Oats' questions, Oats re-asked multiple times, MM1 still doesn't answer. Instead MM1 scum reads Oats. Oats scum reads MM1 back, and neither one makes a concerted effort to push on the other one. One of these two at this point should be furious or seriously pushing the other, yet both just seem content with the state of the game.

The only other interesting thing regarding Oats and MM1 is an interaction between Oats and Robik when Oats is developing his read on Robik:

On March 06 2015 02:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 02:05 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 03 2015 05:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Signup List
5 Trfel
6 prplhz
7 Onegu
8 Alakaslam
10 MysteryMeat1
11 Oatsmaster

People I could lynch today.

Trfel - weird content. I was able to clear in previous game. not able to this game
Prplhz - why me? fry me
Onegu - not sure why but would maybe lynch
Slam - not sure why but would maybe lynch
MM1 - don't want to lynch but lack of content is disturbing
Oats - i might just be bitter cause he was a meanie to me last game and tried tunneling me



On March 04 2015 04:16 IAmRobik wrote:
Mafia team is MM, Oats, prplhz

just wanted everyone to know



Please tell me how my reads are so different and are unjustified oats you lil b****. I can wait for years an you won't be able to answer this because your claim is fucking bullshit and you're just trying to fling shit my way and hope it sticks.

Also, it's 100% certain that as mafia I would kill snickers. Like I literally laid out how I think he's a power role and how he shouldn't be lynched because of it. 0 fucking percent chance I don't kill him. Unless you believe we're mafia together .... which is impossible because I'm town.

So you have MM and me as lynchees right?
But you never once in your filter explain why you think that way.

You mention our names MULTIPLE TIMES but NOT ONCE do you offer reasoning.



On March 06 2015 02:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 02:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2015 02:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
While I pushed a mislynch at least I was here and tried to do something. You can't come in here with a fucking high and mighty attitude while not doing dick all game. ..^..

Im sorry, can you show all of us where this "push" occured? I didnt see jack.

FROM THE VERY FUCKING BEGINNING WHERE I CALL HIM OUT FOR TRYING TO LOOK LIKE HE WAS PLAYING LAST GAME AS OPPOSED TO ACTUALLY PLAYING LIKE HE DID LAST GAME.

1 post doesnt make a push.
Its laughable that you are trying to portray it that way.


Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 02:16 IAmRobik wrote:

Because if MM1 is mafia, mafia loves to just throw their vote on their partner randomly and just leave it there so they can say "oh i voted mafia when everyone was voting town" or some bullshit like that. You were afk for the entire day 1. Didn't even fucking vote. Give 0 fucks about this game, and now all of a sudden you come in trying to fucking mislynch me. Get the fuck outta here

Thats not a fucking reason why MM is mafia. Apparently this is what it looks like when you try and play the game.

Again, thats not a reason why Im mafia. OMGUS is not a valid argument.



In these two posts, Oats seems insistent on not only finding out exactly why Robik is scum reading himself and attempting to invalidate it, but also strangely insistent on why robik is scum reading MM1. It just seems very odd that of all the things to be intensely particular about in a short filter that he is specifically asking about why robik is reading BOTH of them scum.

Conclusions

Overall Oats has been a large non-factor in the game. He has seemingly only cared about 1 thing the entire game and that was this interaction between Oats/Robik/himself on day 1 and that leaking over into later phases. Outside of that he has pretty much ignored every other occurrence of the game unless directly provoked to interact with it. We are also lacking crucial voting info on Oats in regards to the important vote on slam.

Is the Oats + rsoul world possible? yes

Why?

1) weak reason, but ABSOLUTELY IGNORED HER even worse than MM1 did

Is the Oats + MM1 world possible? yes

Why?

1) Only interaction in the thread Oats gives a damn about
2) Does not react very strongly to being completely ignored
3) Seems content to be scum read by MM1 after ignored and content scum reading him back but never directly pushing him

How likely is it that Oats was with Slam? Inconclusive (Moderate)

Literally nothing to draw from that is pre-vote; and 1 post to draw from that basically says "I would have voted slam" pre-flip on slam. I mean, he ignored slam, which I am citing as a potential reason for teams; yet he ignored basically the entire thread until day 2. I will leave it at moderate in parenthesis just because there is basically no content that exists to judge it.

Ultimately after digging through 2 filters I have a weak reason that both of these players could be with Rsoul and I feel like Rsoul's filter will give me the most information and clarity. I think from here all the pairs are possible between these 3. Currently I think the most prominent interaction I have seen is this no-push from both sides between Oats and MM1. MM1 never replies to Oats, scum reads him, lists him as confirmed mafia then never tries to get him lynched. On the other hand Oats finds MM1 and robik's reads strange, asks for an explanation, never gets one, gets scum read, scum reads him back, and never pushes fully back. To me, it feels like if one of them were town in this situation and the other one wasn't the town one would be going absolutely ballistic about this interaction. Yet both seem completely content with it as well as the game state.

Before reading rsoul's filter I think the most likely team is MM1 + Oats. Rsoul's filter is tomorrow, goodnight.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 11 2015 10:06 GMT
#1227
i am super tired but this just popped into my head and might be stupid, so bear with it.

possible explanation as to why both ignore rsoul:

perhaps mafia together and expected the opportunity to kill her before end game, but blue claims fuxxord them into leaving her alive?

w/e no more thinking for tonight, only sleeping.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 12 2015 06:40 GMT
#1241
blah this is really demotivating to dig through this filter lol it's so long, rsoul is antagonizing me, and mm1 can't be bothered to figure out the game. instead he is talking about classical music.....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 12 2015 06:41 GMT
#1242
antagonizing probably the wrong word...am tired, don't have good words right now.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 12 2015 07:09 GMT
#1243
This one is gonna be less formal than the other two, cuz I basically got through 6 pages and had my answer. Rsoul is my best bet at finding a fellow town. If she is mafia, she was the saving vote on her partner day 1 and played so well that she recovered from it and played more townie than basically any townie but me. If one of the two of you in oats and mm1 is my other townie then it's on you for fucking up so bad that it is impossible to town read either of you.

Let's start on whether or not rsoul can be with slam, there's too many posts for me to really quote this entire story. Essentially the wagon on slam was ORIGINALLY hers essentially. And not originally hers in the sense that she was the 1st vote and afk got cred while a wagon formed, she was the 2nd vote and did much of the convincing of people to vote on slam, that is a CRAZY bus. Did she get cold feet, lured to the dark side, and end up voting to save him? Yes. Could this mean she is mafia.....kinda, but probably not. She was 100% on board my call for a vigi shot on slam if a vigi was in the game, and emphasized it with me. Like there's an argument that the statistical play says there likely isn't a vigi so if you're mafia that is play is a wash, but that's some next level shit that if she did, kudos. Essentially I find it hard to place her in a team with Slam based on her play. So she can't really be mafia. BUT IN THE TINFOIL WORLD WHO WOULD SHE BE WITH?

Answer: MM1

Why? More complex interactions, attempts at town reading him and that weird point in the game where she said she was willing to switch to MM1 and then when the stars aligned she was gone. These things are displayed in the following quotes:

On March 04 2015 08:18 rsoultin wrote:
yes twit is an actual word o.0

Not looking back at the votes, but MM and Super seem most likely -rolls around the thread-

MM because he promised to sheep Robik, then didn't when the vote was on slam, which is interesting. And you because I think Palmar believed his lynch, but you're shit this game.


On March 05 2015 12:44 rsoultin wrote:
Meh, I think it's short-sighted to assume that no mafia is on prp there Super. I'm not sold on your alignment at all and just shelving it cause I know i'm biased. But you're sure MM is town, too? I find that hard to believe. You don't think Oats on his lonesome could possibly be scum?

I dislike this limiting options thing, especially when it encourages people not to look at you. And you really have no right to say anything to damdred when you were saying I chose to call attention to myself in the most moronic way possible by switching from one town wagon to another as scum. Talk about zero sense.


On March 05 2015 15:05 rsoultin wrote:
I still kinda think ritoky is town...and mm could be based on his play. like I think a wagon on him right now is mostly policy, which seems like a complete cop out. oats either was scum afk when slam was being wagoned or couldn't be bothered to give a shit...not about claiming credit or about saving slam. I kinda lean toward general afk though and want to put him at null. why specifically is this his town game, snickers?


On March 07 2015 07:39 rsoultin wrote:
i'm here but will only switch to MM...I think Onegu is town for shit reasons, but i do and don't have the time to verify to change opinion


The real standout moment is that refusal/not present to vote switch. Yes she detailed some math that may or may not be correct about the numbers of the swap; if she is mafia, she saved both of her partners and explained it away. And if she is mafia with MM1 it is for this.

Could she be mafia with Oats in a tinfoil world? Actually no. I find this world the absolute least possible world. Like I can visualize an MM1+oats world very clearly and an rsoul + mm1 as a faint image in my head but this one is just....no.

I can dig up the quotes but I sincerely doubt any1 is actually going to thoroughly read it at this point. Essentially what it boils down to is that rsoul has scum read oats for the longest fucking time, and tried to push him at times even more than MM1 who has oats listed as confirmed mafia. In fact I would say that in the game rsoul has attempted to get Oats killed the most of any1. So essentially that would have to mean she bussed both her teammates to the extreme since moment 1 of the game. She made the wagon on slam, saved him, echoed my call for a shot on him, and has tried to lynch her other teammate during the late days.....Like...that is too much bus. I know some huge bussers as mafia, and this is too much. She is not with oats.

Essentially I arrive at the opposite place of Rsoul. I think Rsoul is my fellow townie, if she isn't she fooled me and these other two have done so little to convince me they are town that it is essentially impossible for me to conclude they are town. In the crazy world where rsoul is mafia she is more likely with MM1 so I would like to hedge and vote MM1 (and she thinks the same for me + oats) before Oats but it is of little consequence to me. I am pretty much fully on board lynching MM1 + oats back to back as I think that is the team with about 98.65% certainty. Order is kinda irrelevant, but ya know....dat paranoia.

##vote: MM1

if trfel and rsoul feel an extreme desire for oats first then I will switch to join you, but I am pretty committed to you two as my townies going forward.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 12 2015 22:59 GMT
#1252
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 12 2015 23:03 GMT
#1256
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 12 2015 23:48 GMT
#1266
you're welcome for the carry team.

i feel i played quite well
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 12 2015 23:52 GMT
#1270
also, i swagged on damdred so hard again. called the shot before i did it. felt so bad.

idk i think if you would have tried harder rsoul, i would have sided with you, lynched oats, then i was afraid you or trfel would fear lynch me in f3.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 13 2015 00:04 GMT
#1277
I think the vast majority of the town was so inactive or anti-town that it took very little for me to appear to be one of the most pro-town people. Especially by killing those who were even remotely town. It kinda made the game slow and shit to play in terms of fun, but it was the clear path to the win considering my team being afk.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 13 2015 00:06 GMT
#1280
also i had snickers so fooled in obs QT :D
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 13 2015 00:19 GMT
#1288
yeah when i didn't give up and kept being serious after the robik kill cuz i realized it put us in lylo, should have been a red flag. i think it was, but i think we were all too deep in the rabbit hole at that point.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 13 2015 00:27 GMT
#1292
lol damdred knew cuz he opened my filter and saw i called my shot on him again.

let it be known: effort level in a low effort game can earn some1 free town reads for days
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 13 2015 00:41 GMT
#1297
technically swag is short for swagger. which by the book means exuding an aura of confidence, assuredness, and overall badassery

in terms of the internet and more colloquial usage it is commonly a meme used for someone saying they look cool/confident in a situation where they got lucky or is ridiculous or the like. usually it is also accompanied by swag shades.

in terms of the verb of "swagging on someone" it is moreso meaning doing something over the top and excessive to look cooler when you could have just done it simply or doing something to someone, having them know you're doing it and being unable to stop you. for example i swagged on damdred this game because i said in the thread at one point i was going to shoot him, then did just for style points and no1 realized it.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 13 2015 00:42 GMT
#1298
yolo stands for you only live once and is a word used to express doing something stupid/nonsensicle that normally wouldn't be done.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 13 2015 04:17 GMT
#1316
yeah i had a bad enough day 1 to where i should never have been a clear town read imo, but that random vote switch and me calling for the vigi shot on my teammate seemed to make every1 forget how bad i was day 1
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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