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KelsierSC
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Tronak
Spain217 Posts
On February 26 2015 23:52 KelsierSC wrote: Hmm..tronak I actually like that post. I'll have to check your filter when I get back home to see if it makes sense but you explained your actions pretty well. The thing I dont understand is you made some reply to artanis saying that you thought snarf was scummy. Like .."I alwabt to learn but there is no way he doesn't remember who you pushed" I cant remember exactly. but then you voted on wave so is it just because you liked the case on wave better. Hmm also Yamato and I.wanted to lynch snarf so that gave you pause. You're probably the T town Lol Kelser thanks for 2 things: your town read on me, and not calling me tapas  .Now to your question: Snarfs been scummy and towny several times to me: his openings were scummy, his investigation on Node for me is towny, his silence during must critic yesterday's hours are scummy, his "I am back and I vote Artanis because nothing plusI like these players and read scum on these others" post can be townie or scummy. I found Artanys defense to this post very solid and agreed, completly (Artanys had in facct tunneled tormented and yamato clearly whole game), however Snarfs fast answer made me think townie of him again. Finally, my suspicious on Artanis are still alive (explained in my wall of text posts and will push more next day probably), so Snarfs suspecting on him was usefull for me too, as long he provides enough reasoning behind his cases in the future. Wave had been all I already explained above, for me was a much better target indeed. And on another thing: Kelser last night, you freely pushed me saying I had said I "liked lyching Snarfs" can you admit now either you were wrong or you were being scummy to focus more eyes on me?. | ||
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Damdred
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On February 26 2015 08:58 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count WaveofShadow (7): Eden1892, Probulous, Damdred, _Tormented_, Tronak, snarfs, The Shining Snarfs (5): Node, Yamato77, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], KelsierSC KelsierSC (1): sicklucker Not Voting (0): Currently, WaveofShadow is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain. Had a long day at work figured before I went into anything else I would look at the final vote count and post some thoughts. The first vote is the official vote count where we ended with the 100% information that we have from the flip. From this vote it is highly probable that both Eden and Yamato are both town (a part from my earlier reads) which makes the vote look like this + Show Spoiler + On February 26 2015 08:58 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count WaveofShadow (7): Eden1892, Probulous, Damdred, _Tormented_, Tronak, snarfs, The Shining Snarfs (5): Node, Yamato77, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], KelsierSC KelsierSC (1): sicklucker Not Voting (0): Currently, WaveofShadow is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain. Personal Reads Incoming: I think that the vote was between two towns at this junction, Snarf left a reads post that convinced me even if it did not convince anyone else. There was not that much movement in the wagons at the time besides consolidation. Snarf voted to save himself which isn't alignment indicative granted. I still think the legacy post sways me a bit its obvious he was the lynch up to that point and wave had 0 momentum up to the final hour so no reason for mafia to give us any sort of information going into it. I also think that there is a good possibility that Kel is town in this scenario. He looked really good heading into the eod and put in a ton of work questioning people and pressuring people at points. + Show Spoiler + On February 26 2015 08:58 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count WaveofShadow (7): Eden1892, Probulous, Damdred, _Tormented_, Tronak, snarfs, The Shining Snarfs (5): Node, Yamato77, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], KelsierSC KelsierSC (1): sicklucker Not Voting (0): Currently, WaveofShadow is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain. Shining had a huge let down day one, but his somewhat catchup posts were ok. I'm leaning town on him but I don't think i'm ready to give him a full force town read but I think its more likely between two towns that a town would hammer in that situation. SL has a high chance of being mafia with how his voting went I believe. He was here at EoD was useless and used his vote by throwing it away instead of helping the lynch. His vote by itself stands out pretty highly to me + Show Spoiler + On February 26 2015 08:58 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count WaveofShadow (7): Eden1892, Probulous, Damdred, _Tormented_, Tronak, snarfs, The Shining Snarfs (5): Node, Yamato77, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], KelsierSC KelsierSC (1): sicklucker Not Voting (0): Currently, WaveofShadow is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain. This leaves me with Tormented, Tronak, Node, Artanis and Probulous Tormented I think is townish at this point, his post on snarfs goes against the grain at that point and his followup explanation was pretty good. His posts at EoD weren't bad either to me. Probulous has been a bit useless besides when hes talking about me granted, wave pointed this out but I think that what analysis he did do to me and his post during the night on the votes was pretty town so he is in a town pile. + Show Spoiler + On February 26 2015 08:58 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count WaveofShadow (7): Eden1892, Probulous, Damdred, _Tormented_, Tronak, snarfs, The Shining Snarfs (5): Node, Yamato77, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], KelsierSC KelsierSC (1): sicklucker Not Voting (0): Currently, WaveofShadow is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain. This leaves me with a pool of Artanis, Tronak and Node. Tronak had some decent posts during the night, hes more null for me currently. But I think some posts look towny Artanis has a really good shot at being scum, all day he thought that Yamato looked really bad and scummy but he decided to vote with his scum read and then after he voted he decided that Yamatos filter looked decent. He was somewhat useless today just focusing on tormented and yamato for the general portion of the day before deciding to vote with said scum read and suddenly reversing the read even when Yamato had been playing the same way the whole game. Node is probably the last scum, h was extremely useless all day. He was extremely defensive whenever he was confronted with not doing things in the thread. AFK'd his vote without any sort of followup or any new information taken into account whenever he was here, and just has decided to do shit all and be useless. + Show Spoiler + On February 26 2015 08:58 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count WaveofShadow (7): Eden1892, Probulous, [gren]Damdred, _Tormented_, Tronak, snarfs, The Shining Snarfs (5): Node, Yamato77, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], KelsierSC KelsierSC (1): sicklucker Not Voting (0): Currently, WaveofShadow is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain. This is the final visual representation of where my thoughts are currently. Any questions or want anything fleshed out more just ask and i'll talk more about it. | ||
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Tronak
Spain217 Posts
AFK 30mins, I'll re-read carefully again when I'm back. | ||
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Damdred
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KelsierSC
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KelsierSC
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I think its likely snarf could be town , id rather keep him alive tonight so vigi dont shoot him anymore. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
My d1 thing wasn't really good when you take out the artanis point. I think he played poorly but his play is different from void, I think you'd agree. | ||
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Damdred
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Damdred
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On February 27 2015 00:50 KelsierSC wrote: I dunno about sl to be honest. My d1 thing wasn't really good when you take out the artanis point. I think he played poorly but his play is different from void, I think you'd agree. I do agree it is different, and it is possible that two mafia are on one wagon at this point. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
Like in my mind sl mafia would probably vote wave there. He has a good excuse for himself. "I called snarf and damdred town early and they are voting wave, " "ksc is voting snarf and I think he is scum" " edens case is good and wave did scummy things." It would be easy for.him.to blend into the wagon rather than stick out as the non voter | ||
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Damdred
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Damdred
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On February 26 2015 07:43 _Tormented_ wrote: I am still not sure how Artanis can call Yamato's case against me weak and then continued to push me and then turn on yamato when he changed from me. This is just an example, but I kinda like this post from tormented it is insightful and shows a clear understanding of a town mindset looking for things that are a bit off. It just seems towny to me like his snarf case an push and then the reason he backs off of snarf and switches to art then wave seems decent to me. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
Snarf's legacy was not good enough to.convince that many people, maybe that combined with edens case was enough..i dont know. I'm in the world that snarf is town though I think id look at artanis,node,tormented... Id probably look at Yamato and Eden as well. Everyone else I think is town at this point, If you ned explanations for any reads then I can give them later when I'm at my pc and losing a game of dota | ||
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KelsierSC
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Damdred
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See what I said and comment when you can kel. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
I'm.starting to consider artanis and yamato as mafia though. | ||
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_Tormented_
United States157 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On February 27 2015 00:54 KelsierSC wrote: I think tormented probably replaces SL on your list. Like in my mind sl mafia would probably vote wave there. He has a good excuse for himself. "I called snarf and damdred town early and they are voting wave, " "ksc is voting snarf and I think he is scum" " edens case is good and wave did scummy things." It would be easy for.him.to blend into the wagon rather than stick out as the non voter Like I specifically. always target the non voters. I care more when im a mafia. And im always a target so not voting as mafia is not something I would never really do because I try harder. Another good read | ||
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sicklucker
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