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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 23:09:40
February 18 2015 22:58 GMT
#1
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Newbie Student Mafia VI


rsoultin is helping me co-host this game. Any questions can be directed towards rsoultin or myself.

Sun Tzu said, "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."

This is also true in rhetoric.

The best way to get a belief accepted is to fool people into thinking that they have already accepted it.

Let us play mafia.




Introduction:

Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win. The town's goal is to lynch all the members of the mafia.

The game is typically very active, so the thread may grow large quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play.


Rules:

Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
1. Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information.
2. Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town.
3. Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
4. Comparing role PM times to determine roles.
5. Posting screenshots of your inbox.
6. Posting any PM you receive from a host.
7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
8. Signing up more than once using smurf accounts.
9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits.
10. Sharing accounts with other players. Only you may post on your account.
11. You may not reveal or hint about the identity of your coach. You may not refer to any idea, course of action, etc. as something that was suggested by your coach.
If you feel that any action you are considering may be against the spirit of the game, it is best to contact a host and ensure it is allowed before proceeding.

Posting:

Host Color:
The color blue is reserved for the hosts of the game to make our posts easy to notice. Please do not use it.

Question Color:
The color green is reserved for questions by players for the hosts. Use it to ask the game hosts questions about the rules. Please do us a favor and read the rules before you ask anything.

Activity:
You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. Roughly speaking, this equates to a bare minimum of one post per 36 hours. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled or replaced.

Smurfs:
Smurfs must PM the host because TL doesn't allow multiple accounts otherwise. If the host is unaware of smurfs, you (and/or your smurf) can be banned for having multiple accounts

Spam:
Spam is not tolerated, nor is any off-topic material. Do not discuss Proleague here. Do not talk about Starcraft II here. Play Mafia here.

Editing:
Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a warning. After that, you will be modkilled. This is the one part of the site where it is okay to be double posting, even triple-posting. "Editing" includes indirect editing like linking an image, then editing the image. Editing your profile or signature are allowed, but if you edit them for any game-related reasons (ie, breadcrumbing, sending messages, etc) this will be considered out-of-thread posting and will be punished.

Inappropriate posts and use of the report post link:
If you want to post something insulting or inappropriate and know the TL mods would have a problem with it elsewhere, don't post it here. If you do, a host will warn you or modkill you and request that you be banned from future games. The hosts have the final say on what is inappropriate. If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM a host, Flamewheel, or Mig before involving the TL moderation staff or using the report post link. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can appeal to the TL staff normally.

Ban discussions:
Please wait until this game is over to talk about modkills and bans resulting from this game.

Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.

This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM your host if you need to leave the game.



Out of thread communication:

It is common for mafia to use a medium outside of TL such as QuickTopics or IRC to communicate during the game. Players who have not explicitly been given permission to communicate outside the thread are not allowed to attempt to infiltrate such communication channels. Players who are not mafia are not allowed to communicate about this game outside of the thread.



Voting rules:

1. Voting is done by posting in this thread.
2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote: Zona or ##Vote Zona. Votes must be in bold, and votes not written in the correct fashion will not be counted.
3. No conditional voting.
4. You may vote only for other living players in the thread. You may not vote for yourself.
5. This game uses plurality voting, so whoever has the most votes at the end of the day is lynched. There is no minimum number of votes required to lynch someone. If there is a tie for most votes, whoever most recently had more votes than the other is the person who is up for the lynch.
6. The person who is up for the lynch is whoever has the most votes. Bringing another player up to that number of votes doesn't put him up for the lynch; he has to have the most votes.
7. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.



Signups:

7 spots in this game are reserved for new players*. The other 6 spots in this game are open to anyone, but new players still take priority and can possibly bump other players from these spots. These numbers are flexible, but the goal is to bring new members in and give them a chance to play. If you're a forum regular, please bear in mind there will be newbies in this game and act appropriately to introduce them to TL Mafia.
*new player - played in 3 or fewer TL mafia games

Signup for the game by posting /in in the thread if you are new, or /in: Open if you are not.


Game-specific rules:

Modkills:
This game follows the TL Mafia Ban List. If you are modkilled, your punishment will go beyond being eliminated from this game. Please refer to it for questions about your punishment. If you want to use this game to sit out your ban, please post in the Ban List.

Replacements
This game uses replacements. Players who are inactive may be replaced by other players.

Clues:
There are no clues.

PMs
PMs and out of thread communication are not allowed in this game, unless your role explicitly allows them.

Time Cycle:
This game will follow a 48 hour day/24 hour night cycle. Any votes after the deadline will not count and the game will be put on hold until the night post is up. The deadline for each cycle will be 00:00 GMT (+00:00).


Credits:
Thanks to Zona, who inspired me to make this game, and designed this setup.



On February 20 2013 21:59 Acrofales wrote:
Newbie-specific stuff



1.It's already in the rules, but remember, no editing. If you feel you must correct your post, please make a second post to clarify your statements. You may put EBWOP ("Edit by way of post," a handy acronym invented by semioldguy) at the beginning of your post to indicate that you are clearing up a point you made. If your EBWOP post is several posts after your original, please quote your original post in your EBWOP post for the sake of clarity.

2. Only sign up if you know you will have the time available to properly play the game. It is essential that players remain active in a newbie game, so only /in if you are able to play to your fullest.

3. If there is any sort of issue, you are unsure about some mechanic, or you are just wondering if your devilish scheme is even allowed, feel free to PM me, or ask in-thread with green text. Don't feel shy; these games are meant to be a place to learn and be open.

4. Behave as gentlemen (or ladies). Things get heated here, but personal attacks will not be acceptable, and will be dealt with accordingly. Remember, this is a game; have fun and happy scumhunting!

5. Please do not talk about any ongoing games either in-game or pre-game. This can affect other games and is unacceptable. Please do not refer to outside-of- thread activity of players in this thread.

6. If you receive coaching, don't tell town about it.

7. glhf!


>>> Link to Guides! <<<
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-21 23:59:35
February 18 2015 22:58 GMT
#2
Game setup information:

This is a mafia game for 13 players. 3 players will be randomly selected as mafia.

The town's win condition:
The town wins when all mafia are eliminated.

The mafia's win condition:
The mafia wins if the number of mafia players alive is equal or greater to the number of town players alive.

When a player dies in the game, the player's alignment (that is, which team the player wins with), and role will be revealed. This reveal is guaranteed to be accurate.

This game uses a variable open setup. When the game begins, one of the following setups will be chosen:

A) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
B) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
C) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
D) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon

The mafia will be informed as to which setup is chosen, but the town will not!

Role descriptions:

Vanilla Townie
You have no special abilities, but your voice and your vote are just as important as anyone else's. You win with the town.

Town Cop / Detective
Every night, you may choose a player to investigate. You will visit the player and receive "Town-aligned" or "Mafia-aligned" as a result. Your results are guaranteed to be accurate. You win with the town.

Town Doctor
Every night, you may choose a player other than yourself to protect. You will visit the player, and if the mafia attempt to kill a player you are protecting on the same night, the kill will fail. Both you and your target are notified if you prevent a kill. You win with the town.

Town Vigilante
Once per game, at night, you may select a player to kill. That player is shot overnight and dies at the start of the next day. If your target was also shot by mafia, or was protected by a doctor or veteran status, your bullet is lost. If you were roleblocked, you don't use your bullet and can try againt he next night. You win with the town.

Town Veteran
You have a bulletproof vest that can absorb one bullet. This means you need to be shot twice in order to die: once to destroy the vest, once to kill you. If you are roleblocked, however, your bulletproof vest doesn't work that night. You are informed if your vest is destroyed by a bullet. You win with the town.

Mafia Roleblocker
Every night, you may choose a player to roleblock, which will prevent them from performing actions and visits that night. The roleblocked player will be notified, even if s/he is vanilla. Every night, the mafia team must choose a player to kill. You may communicate with other members of your mafia team outside of the game thread at any time. You win with the mafia.
The mafia team is:
A quicktopic has been provided for your team:
The setup that is being used for this game is: (A/B/C/D)

Mafia Goon
Every night, the mafia team must choose a player to kil;.You may communicate with other members of your mafia team outside of the game thread at any time. You win with the mafia.
The mafia team is:
A quicktopic has been provided for your team:
The setup that is being used for this game is: (A/B/C/D)

Mafia Godfather
You return "town" to cop checks, as though you were a vanilla townie. Every night, the mafia team must choose a player to kill. You may communicate with other members of your mafia team outside of the game thread at any time. You win with the mafia.
The mafia team is:
A quicktopic has been provided for your team:
The setup that is being used for this game is: (A/B/C/D)


Sample PMs:

Vanilla Town
Town Cop
Town Vigilante
Town Veteran
Town Doctor
Mafia Goon
The mafia team is:
A quicktopic has been provided for your team:
The setup that is being used for this game is: (A/B/C/D)
Mafia Roleblocker
The mafia team is:
A quicktopic has been provided for your team:
The setup that is being used for this game is: (A/B/C/D)


If there is any confusion about your role PM or the setup, PM me or your coach if you have one.


FAQs:

Q: Can good guys communicate outside of the thread? What about just the Cop / Detective?
A: The good guys can't communicate outside of the thread. This includes the Cop.

Q: I'm confused about some role names that are used interchangeably.
A: VT = Vanilla Townie = Town Vanilla. Cop = DT = Detective. Medic = Doc = Doctor = Angel. Scum = Mafia. RB = Roleblocker

Q: Does something extra bad happen to the Doctor if s/he visits a mafia player?
A: The Doctor has no penalty for saving a mafia player

Q: I want to talk about coaching, or have a question about coaching. Where should I ask this?
A: PM me. Do not post in the thread about coaching.

Q: Should I talk about this game anywhere other than this thread?
A: No. You can talk in your special Scum Quicktopic if you are Mafia. You can also talk with your coach. Otherwise, do not mention this game. Don't mention it in passing. Don't mention that you're alive. Don't mention that you think your case is good. People in this game read all parts of the forums here on TL, so if you go over the Sc2 Strategy and say "I'm a bad mafia dude in this game" you will get found out.

Q: Should I talk about this game anywhere other than this thread if I'm dead?
A: When you die I will provide you with a quicktopic for dead players to hang out in and discuss the game.

Q: Can town decide to "sleep" or vote for a no-lynch?
A: You are allowed to vote for a no-lynch.

Q: The deadline passed and the Host hasn't finished writing the Day post or Night post. During these minutes between the lynch ending, or between the night ending, and the start of the next phase, can I talk?
A: Do not talk if the day or night post is late. After the lynch or the night kills have been 100% determined, in theory the next day should start instantly. In practice, it takes me some time to compose the new post, and during this time you should quietly wait for the flip. Typically there's a delay of between 1 and 10 minutes.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-11 00:00:53
February 18 2015 22:58 GMT
#3
Player List
1) Probulous (filter) Mafia Roleblocker Lynched D3
2) Artanis[Xp] (filter) Mafia Goon Lynched D2
3) Half the Sky (filter) replaced by KelsierSC (filter) replaced by Onegu (filter) Town Vanilla Lynched D4
4) sicklucker (filter)
5) Tronak (filter)
6) Yamato77 (filter)
7) _Tormented_ (filter) Town Detective Shot N4
8) Node (filter) FecalFeast(filter)
9) The Shining (filter) Town Vanille Lynched D5
10) Eden1892 (filter) Vanilla Town shot N3
11) WaveofShadow (filter) Town Vanilla Lynched D1
12) Damdred (filter) Town Vanilla Shot N1
13) snarfs (filter) Vanilla Town Shot N2

Coach List
1) geript
2) LightningStrike

Replacement List
1) FecalFeast
2) Onegu
3)

3 of 10 Town-Aligned Players Remaining
1 of 3 Mafia-Aligned Players Remaining

+ Show Spoiler [Important Posts] +
D1 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478420-newbie-student-mafia-vi?page=6#102
N1 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478420-newbie-student-mafia-vi?page=57#1139
D2 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478420-newbie-student-mafia-vi?page=70#1391
N2 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23830989
D3 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23834800
N3 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478420-newbie-student-mafia-vi?page=100#1983
D4 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478420-newbie-student-mafia-vi?page=103#2043
N4 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23863025
D5 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478420-newbie-student-mafia-vi?page=107#2136
N5 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478420-newbie-student-mafia-vi?page=110#2193
D6 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478420-newbie-student-mafia-vi?page=113#2242
N6
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-19 01:27:43
February 19 2015 01:27 GMT
#4
Sign me up.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Silverarte
Profile Joined December 2014
115 Posts
February 19 2015 02:40 GMT
#5
/in

>>
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-19 04:34:47
February 19 2015 04:34 GMT
#6
/in: open

(BH, sent you a PM)
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 19 2015 06:35 GMT
#7
lemme know if you'd rather me play or coach town
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 19 2015 08:23 GMT
#8
/in I need to go back to class
Tronak
Profile Joined February 2015
Spain217 Posts
February 19 2015 15:36 GMT
#9
/in

first post ever (follower of healthstone forums), 1st Mafia game ever.
LeaVe & LeT DiE
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
February 19 2015 21:07 GMT
#10
OK, the signups list is updated! Any new players, if you have questions or want to learn more, I recommend you check out the guides linked here. I'm also available for Q&A here in the thread before the game start. I'd expect it'll take a few more days for this game to fill up.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 19 2015 22:16 GMT
#11
/coach whatever
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 19 2015 23:12 GMT
#12
/obs

If some really good player could obs too, so they could tell me who they are reading as what alignment and why, that would be great. I need to learn how to make reads.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 19 2015 23:37 GMT
#13
On February 20 2015 08:12 Trfel wrote:
/obs

If some really good player could obs too, so they could tell me who they are reading as what alignment and why, that would be great. I need to learn how to make reads.

If you want, you can open a QT with me in it. Since I'll be coaching I can't really join Obs. But I can give my thoughts as best and unadulterated as possible.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 19 2015 23:43 GMT
#14
On February 20 2015 08:37 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 08:12 Trfel wrote:
/obs

If some really good player could obs too, so they could tell me who they are reading as what alignment and why, that would be great. I need to learn how to make reads.

If you want, you can open a QT with me in it. Since I'll be coaching I can't really join Obs. But I can give my thoughts as best and unadulterated as possible.
If you're willing, that would be amazing. Thanks!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 20 2015 00:15 GMT
#15
/in

ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Silverarte
Profile Joined December 2014
115 Posts
February 20 2015 01:41 GMT
#16
Whooo. And I didn't realize you could do that with the observing thing. I'll have to keep that in mind.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
February 20 2015 01:43 GMT
#17
There's something called "shadowing" which is like reverse coaching which might actually be what you want. a newbie and a vet share a QT while the vet plays the game. That being said, experience is usually the best teacher, especially experience in mixed games like this with coaching
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Silverarte
Profile Joined December 2014
115 Posts
February 20 2015 01:49 GMT
#18
On February 20 2015 10:43 Blazinghand wrote:
There's something called "shadowing" which is like reverse coaching which might actually be what you want. a newbie and a vet share a QT while the vet plays the game. That being said, experience is usually the best teacher, especially experience in mixed games like this with coaching


Hmm. It's not a bad idea though, because I'd like to see how someone really good plays the game. The Coaches I've had so far have been fantastic to me.

What makes experience in mixed games good? Or perhaps different?
Silverarte
Profile Joined December 2014
115 Posts
February 20 2015 01:49 GMT
#19
Aside from well, experienced players playing.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
February 20 2015 01:59 GMT
#20
On February 20 2015 10:49 Silverarte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 10:43 Blazinghand wrote:
There's something called "shadowing" which is like reverse coaching which might actually be what you want. a newbie and a vet share a QT while the vet plays the game. That being said, experience is usually the best teacher, especially experience in mixed games like this with coaching


Hmm. It's not a bad idea though, because I'd like to see how someone really good plays the game. The Coaches I've had so far have been fantastic to me.

What makes experience in mixed games good? Or perhaps different?


You get a coach AND you have other players teaching you in-game. it's great
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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