• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:27
CET 05:27
KST 13:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT8Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0224LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker15
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game?
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Team League Season 10 PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? TvZ is the most complete match up Brood War inspired Terran vs Zerg cinematic – feed Which units you wish saw more use in the game?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread ZeroSpace Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Corso Formazione Insegnanti Yoga What Game makes you happy and stress free?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1740 users

Newbie Student Mafia VI - Page 70

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 68 69 70 71 72 115 Next
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 23:51 GMT
#1381
On February 27 2015 08:46 Tronak wrote:
So in your opinion, who should be our targets for next day?

Tormented's still my strongest read.
On February 27 2015 08:49 Damdred wrote:
whats changed your mind or at least made you doubt the snarf lynch?

Thinking about it more critically and wondering why he went after me when I wasn't a viable lynch target. I've expanded on this in a previous post.
On February 27 2015 08:49 The Shining wrote:
Especially with you calling Wave's filter horrible. I'm a newbie. Help me figure out how someone yelling 'he is town!!" Is enough. If that's all it takes, I start shooting PMs pregame begging people to tell "he's town" when I'm up for mislynch

Horrible =/= scum. That his filter was bad did not mean he was mafia, as evidenced by his flip. I saw a terrible filter but not necessarily a scummy one.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 26 2015 23:51 GMT
#1382
On February 27 2015 08:49 Damdred wrote:
whats changed your mind or at least made you doubt the snarf lynch?


I mean tonight not yesterday obviously
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 26 2015 23:52 GMT
#1383
ninja'd.

The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 26 2015 23:52 GMT
#1384
On February 27 2015 08:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 08:46 The Shining wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:28 Eden1892 wrote:
what does that mean

that's twice now that you've done it

It means second.
On February 27 2015 08:28 Damdred wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:24 Damdred wrote:
Yes why did it matter that wave and Yamato were town reading each other when you voted? especially when you called waves filter after his push on me crappy?

They've got a lot of history, so if I believe Yamato is town and he's calling Wave town with nigh on certainty I do give that a decent amount of weight.


I know they have a ton of history but what does that matter if one of them is scum or not? When we were scum together we did somewhat the same thing?

It's not very difficult.
1. Yamato has a good read on Wave.
2. I believe Yamato is town.
3. Yamato very strongly believes Wave is town.
4. I therefore feel it's more likely that Wave is town.
Rocket science, it is not.


But you didn't always believe yamato was town. You were willing to lynch him. All I can see is a one liner about yamato's EoD play seems townie now and by that, Wave is town. Seems very loose with no flips to go off of to just assume one is townie for trying to save the other town.

Reads change sometimes. Note that Wave called Yamato town too and I had a townread on Wave early on too. The fact that they townread each other strengthened one another. I didn't go in depth on why I changed my read on Yamato as there was little time, plus like I said I felt Snarfs was scummier. I wasn't certain on Wave being town by any means.


I know you didnt, hence my last post asking you to help me explain it now. Reads do change but if I can't readily see where and how it changed, it holds as much weight as "he was scum and unsure of how to spin his read so he goes as vague as possible."

I don't want to jump to that conclusion without seeing what you have to say first
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
_Tormented_
Profile Joined February 2015
United States157 Posts
February 26 2015 23:53 GMT
#1385
On February 26 2015 08:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Holy shit Wave's filter since the Damdred push is terrible.



On February 26 2015 08:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think I still prefer a Snarfs lynch over a Wave lynch. I just find it hard to imagine he wouldn't know who his main suspect is voting for and suspects if he actually put any effort into reading the filter whatsoever. I feel like Wave's play can be explained more easily by playing bad than Snarfs can.



Maybe because I am new...but this makes no sense to me. You say Wave's filter looks terrible, but stick with Snarf because of one single thing he said and said that Wave's actions could be explained...
The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 23:55 GMT
#1386
On February 27 2015 08:52 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 08:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:46 The Shining wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:28 Eden1892 wrote:
what does that mean

that's twice now that you've done it

It means second.
On February 27 2015 08:28 Damdred wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:24 Damdred wrote:
Yes why did it matter that wave and Yamato were town reading each other when you voted? especially when you called waves filter after his push on me crappy?

They've got a lot of history, so if I believe Yamato is town and he's calling Wave town with nigh on certainty I do give that a decent amount of weight.


I know they have a ton of history but what does that matter if one of them is scum or not? When we were scum together we did somewhat the same thing?

It's not very difficult.
1. Yamato has a good read on Wave.
2. I believe Yamato is town.
3. Yamato very strongly believes Wave is town.
4. I therefore feel it's more likely that Wave is town.
Rocket science, it is not.


But you didn't always believe yamato was town. You were willing to lynch him. All I can see is a one liner about yamato's EoD play seems townie now and by that, Wave is town. Seems very loose with no flips to go off of to just assume one is townie for trying to save the other town.

Reads change sometimes. Note that Wave called Yamato town too and I had a townread on Wave early on too. The fact that they townread each other strengthened one another. I didn't go in depth on why I changed my read on Yamato as there was little time, plus like I said I felt Snarfs was scummier. I wasn't certain on Wave being town by any means.


I know you didnt, hence my last post asking you to help me explain it now. Reads do change but if I can't readily see where and how it changed, it holds as much weight as "he was scum and unsure of how to spin his read so he goes as vague as possible."

I don't want to jump to that conclusion without seeing what you have to say first

I saw Yamato asking a lot of questions, poking and prodding and being active in a manner he hadn't been yet in the game. His reads evolved, changing his opinion on me despite not being prompted to and most importantly his interrogation of Eden had an agression to it that felt townie.
Tronak
Profile Joined February 2015
Spain217 Posts
February 26 2015 23:55 GMT
#1387
On February 27 2015 08:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 08:46 Tronak wrote:
So in your opinion, who should be our targets for next day?

Tormented's still my strongest read.


Any others? I already knew that one.
LeaVe & LeT DiE
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 23:57 GMT
#1388
On February 27 2015 08:53 _Tormented_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 08:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Holy shit Wave's filter since the Damdred push is terrible.



Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 08:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think I still prefer a Snarfs lynch over a Wave lynch. I just find it hard to imagine he wouldn't know who his main suspect is voting for and suspects if he actually put any effort into reading the filter whatsoever. I feel like Wave's play can be explained more easily by playing bad than Snarfs can.

Maybe because I am new...but this makes no sense to me. You say Wave's filter looks terrible, but stick with Snarf because of one single thing he said and said that Wave's actions could be explained...

The difference between playing bad and playing scummy is that playing bad doesn't necessarily jive with mafia objective. I see mafia motivation in Snarfs' way of treating me whereas I didn't really see it as much in Wave's posting, as terrible as it may have been.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 23:57 GMT
#1389
On February 27 2015 08:55 Tronak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 08:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:46 Tronak wrote:
So in your opinion, who should be our targets for next day?

Tormented's still my strongest read.


Any others? I already knew that one.

Snarfs still second. After that I'm not sure, there's still a few people I need to reread but I'll have plenty of time for that tomorrow.
_Tormented_
Profile Joined February 2015
United States157 Posts
February 26 2015 23:59 GMT
#1390
On February 27 2015 08:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 08:46 Tronak wrote:
So in your opinion, who should be our targets for next day?

Tormented's still my strongest read.


On February 27 2015 03:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't think you're wrong on me, I know you're wrong on me. I've read my role PM.


What you said
The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 27 2015 00:00 GMT
#1391
[image loading]


Day 2





Damdred the Town Vanilla has been shot!




This day ends in 48 hours at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Whoever has the most votes on them at that time gets lynched.

Countdown:
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 27 2015 00:00 GMT
#1392
gg Dammy.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 27 2015 00:01 GMT
#1393
gg town
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 27 2015 00:02 GMT
#1394
Can't believe Mafia didn't shoot me, they're going to regret it.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 27 2015 00:07 GMT
#1395
I have some night actions to report later
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 27 2015 00:08 GMT
#1396
Gg Damdy. You will not die in vain.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 27 2015 00:08 GMT
#1397
How cryptic.
Tronak
Profile Joined February 2015
Spain217 Posts
February 27 2015 00:08 GMT
#1398
GG Damdred I'll take your last 2 posts into account. Promised.


On February 27 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can't believe Mafia didn't shoot me, they're going to regret it.


You came and asked for questions before night ends.

Since today you have been "very lazy" I was actually expecting some new analysis coming from you before night ended. I hope you day play changes, a lot! and besides tunneling Tormented and Snarfs you provide much more in depth analysis on what have happened in the almost last 33hours.
LeaVe & LeT DiE
_Tormented_
Profile Joined February 2015
United States157 Posts
February 27 2015 00:08 GMT
#1399
On February 27 2015 08:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 08:55 Tronak wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:46 Tronak wrote:
So in your opinion, who should be our targets for next day?

Tormented's still my strongest read.


Any others? I already knew that one.

Snarfs still second. After that I'm not sure, there's still a few people I need to reread but I'll have plenty of time for that tomorrow.



On February 27 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can't believe Mafia didn't shoot me, they're going to regret it.




Really now...you seemed pretty certain you would be around for D2....maybe because you can't shoot yourself?
The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 27 2015 00:11 GMT
#1400
On February 27 2015 09:08 Tronak wrote:
GG Damdred I'll take your last 2 posts into account. Promised.


Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can't believe Mafia didn't shoot me, they're going to regret it.


You came and asked for questions before night ends.

Since today you have been "very lazy" I was actually expecting some new analysis coming from you before night ended. I hope you day play changes, a lot! and besides tunneling Tormented and Snarfs you provide much more in depth analysis on what have happened in the almost last 33hours.

If I'm right on both Tormented and Snarfs then all I need to do is to get town to actually listen to me. Have you considered that possibility?
On February 27 2015 09:08 _Tormented_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 08:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:55 Tronak wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:46 Tronak wrote:
So in your opinion, who should be our targets for next day?

Tormented's still my strongest read.


Any others? I already knew that one.

Snarfs still second. After that I'm not sure, there's still a few people I need to reread but I'll have plenty of time for that tomorrow.



Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can't believe Mafia didn't shoot me, they're going to regret it.




Really now...you seemed pretty certain you would be around for D2....maybe because you can't shoot yourself?

Definitely wasn't because I was joking around or anything
Prev 1 68 69 70 71 72 115 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
01:00
#69
PiGStarcraft419
davetesta133
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft419
WinterStarcraft382
RuFF_SC2 252
Nathanias 68
PiLiPiLi 14
StarCraft: Brood War
Noble 38
NaDa 25
Purpose 22
Icarus 10
Dota 2
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
taco 1156
m0e_tv477
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox390
Other Games
summit1g13134
C9.Mang0525
Maynarde164
ToD140
Trikslyr73
Tasteless10
minikerr5
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1389
BasetradeTV112
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 72
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo702
• Stunt376
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 33m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
7h 33m
Replay Cast
19h 33m
PiG Sty Festival
1d 4h
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
The PondCast
1d 5h
KCM Race Survival
1d 5h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 7h
OSC
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 19h
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
[ Show More ]
Epic.LAN
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-League Week 31
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.