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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 02 2015 23:04 GMT
#18
/in
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 02 2015 23:10 GMT
#20
who are you?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 02 2015 23:13 GMT
#22
all i know of you is i kill you early as every alignment and as host.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 10:17 GMT
#60
have we started yet?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 21:11 GMT
#96
hashtag mafia must have had a lot of posts because I had over 1000 by myself
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 21:49 GMT
#102
4/10

I RNG my score
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 22:10 GMT
#114
too old.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 22:13 GMT
#120
On February 04 2015 07:12 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 07:10 marvellosity wrote:
too old.

how's 30 treating you


DISCLAIMER: i don't know how old marv is

almost...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 22:14 GMT
#121
40? fuck you :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 03 2015 22:16 GMT
#124
this is escalating quickly
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 22:17 GMT
#126
60?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 03 2015 22:22 GMT
#133
now i want pics of everyone
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 22:25 GMT
#136
On February 04 2015 07:24 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 07:22 marvellosity wrote:
now i want pics of everyone

No more fapping material for you Marv

don't be ridiculous, that's what my own pics are for
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 22:31 GMT
#142
i don't want putting in a home :<
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:11 GMT
#176
er, well I am miller

and an expert on se(a)men
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:11 GMT
#177
also i'm late to the party because i was literally doing my hair.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:17 GMT
#195
yes it's a hardclaim. i don't fuck about with what i claim, unlike... some people who shall remain nameless.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:17 GMT
#198
shut up eden
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:20 GMT
#206
pretty sure Palmar isn't serious
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:21 GMT
#209
On February 04 2015 08:20 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 08:18 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:16 Breshke wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:11 marvellosity wrote:
also i'm late to the party because i was literally doing my hair.


Does that also have to do with the se(a)men?

Two millers. That should be it, right?


Nevermind lol. We can all be millers.


Are you claiming miller aswell?


Nope. I just realized there's no cap on the roles.

I still want to do the thunderdome thing though. Can I be an honorary miller?



Does this mean you will flip red on checks?

LOL. <3 Onegu
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:22 GMT
#214
rsoultin + Onegu scumteam

this is too easy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:23 GMT
#220
I hope we're going to be best friends this game Koshi, purely for your pregame splurge.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:24 GMT
#225
ah. so we're not. i may have to lynch you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:25 GMT
#230
I really hope so Damdred. Are you going to give me something good to sheep again?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:29 GMT
#236
i'm already wishing i could dayvig you to stop you posting tbh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:30 GMT
#238
also Onegu's original joke was hilarious, not awkward.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:31 GMT
#241
but many townpoints for hilarity.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 03 2015 23:41 GMT
#249
god i hope i get to kill Palmar today
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:42 GMT
#255
why don't you explain for the plebs
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:46 GMT
#260
so you won't explain, so it's useless

goodie
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:48 GMT
#265
ok thanks. i'll look again
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:49 GMT
#269
ok I actually understand what you mean, and it could be right.

But I'm a lot more cautious so I'm just going to sit on it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:50 GMT
#273
the weirdest thing is that eden seems really obviously town and Damdred is questioning him.

i guess that's just the same thing but in a different way
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:52 GMT
#277
so maybe I voted Damdred just so it looks like I started the wagon.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 03 2015 23:58 GMT
#287
On February 04 2015 08:57 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 08:54 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:53 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:47 Eden1892 wrote:

I am positive you were giving me sideways looks for more than that


That would be when you started defending me for no good reason last game.

Moooooore than thaaaaaaat

But I can give you a day if we kill Damdred first?

But at the same time maybe Damdred is town, I don't get where his questions are going from a mafia POV.

iHijole!


The night kill whine was the first thing I called you ooooout ooooon.

So why do you want to kill Damdred if you think he may be town? Not making sense here, Eden.

This is awful.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:00 GMT
#291
Palmar caught one of my scumbuddies on day 1 once for being weird about a miller claim

i'd love it if history repeated itself

apart from the scumbuddy bit :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:01 GMT
#295
ya, the manner/push/catch is different but the similarities with that game would be eery
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:04 GMT
#298
the suspense is killing me :<
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:06 GMT
#302
I think you need to read the thread LS.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:06 GMT
#303
jat is just sheeping me sheeping you Palmar.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:07 GMT
#307
Damdred/rsoultin gg
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:07 GMT
#308
On February 04 2015 09:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 09:06 marvellosity wrote:
jat is just sheeping me sheeping you Palmar.

Am I?

see first post on this page
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:07 GMT
#311
I voted first, bitch
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:10 GMT
#320
LightningStrike is absolutely hilarious.

And not in the hilarious way
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:11 GMT
#323
LS why are you totally ignoring that Palmar actually did present reasons for his read?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:12 GMT
#330
On February 04 2015 09:11 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 09:10 marvellosity wrote:
LightningStrike is absolutely hilarious.

And not in the hilarious way

Did you see my analysis on his "I'm sorry" post in that other game?

I didn't

summary?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:14 GMT
#334
oh yeah that one.

I am kinda worried that he's not reading the thread though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:15 GMT
#337
yes i realise talking to you about reads is now useless Palmar, but thankfully i have other people to entertain my thoughts
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:15 GMT
#338
On February 04 2015 08:58 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 08:57 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:54 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:53 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:47 Eden1892 wrote:

I am positive you were giving me sideways looks for more than that


That would be when you started defending me for no good reason last game.

Moooooore than thaaaaaaat

But I can give you a day if we kill Damdred first?

But at the same time maybe Damdred is town, I don't get where his questions are going from a mafia POV.

iHijole!


The night kill whine was the first thing I called you ooooout ooooon.

So why do you want to kill Damdred if you think he may be town? Not making sense here, Eden.

This is awful.

still think rsoultin could be mafia for this
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:16 GMT
#341
ok, also not going to talk to eden, that's fine
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:18 GMT
#345
On February 04 2015 09:17 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 09:16 marvellosity wrote:
ok, also not going to talk to eden, that's fine



You're gonna have to convince me I'm a better scumhunter than that

you could just, like, ya know, engage me on what i'm actually pointing out. play the game, that sort of thing. try it out
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:19 GMT
#347
look at that bro first on the wagon
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:27 GMT
#363
On February 04 2015 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not scum so im prop not gonna care about this day 1

Really you going to skip Day 1 discussion just because you don't want to play it out? You should know better than that...............

so did you read Palmar's filter?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:29 GMT
#369
On February 04 2015 09:28 Damdred wrote:
Marv we were best friends but now you are first on my wagon for shame

I'm pretty sure that if you are town I will know it by EOD. s'ok baby.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:32 GMT
#376
yeah sicklucker is sheeping me

even though it's your wagon

like jat was

It is actually my wagon
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:33 GMT
#379
On February 04 2015 09:32 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 09:32 marvellosity wrote:
yeah sicklucker is sheeping me

even though it's your wagon

like jat was

It is actually my wagon

if he's town you can have it.

if he's town i retract everything.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:34 GMT
#385
On February 04 2015 09:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 09:32 marvellosity wrote:
yeah sicklucker is sheeping me

even though it's your wagon

like jat was

It is actually my wagon

I can't be sheeping you if I didn't even conciously see your post. Get rekt.

no, it just shows how deeply ingrained your desire to sheep me is

get rekt
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:35 GMT
#386
also i'm going to spam much less tomorrow or it will be ridiculous
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:43 GMT
#402
On February 04 2015 09:42 Damdred wrote:
Palomar is the trendiest town.

Eden town

Marv is town but don't let him skate by on his miller claim.


what does this even mean?

if i'm town why would i be skating?

.....
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:43 GMT
#403
Damdy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:45 GMT
#408
yeah that miller comment was really really terrible
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:47 GMT
#416
On February 04 2015 09:46 Damdred wrote:
Marv sounds happy so he's town. Bit don't let him be terrible confirmed town when I die and make him do things

when, ever, have I needed to be told to do things?

I *always* do things when I'm town
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:48 GMT
#418
On February 04 2015 09:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 09:46 Damdred wrote:
Marv sounds happy so he's town. Bit don't let him be terrible confirmed town when I die and make him do things

Yeah, marv has a history of being terrible and inactive as town. I get it.

you win this one
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:54 GMT
#425
On February 04 2015 09:53 Holyflare wrote:
yes yes people spend your time searching

don't care, don't trust any of your claims anyway
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 00:59 GMT
#436
I thought it was sl and batsnacks :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 09:54 GMT
#755
On February 04 2015 10:53 Damdred wrote:
Palomar, marv, Eden and hf are lynching me I don't think I can get off of it.

Lynch LS over sl.

you really, really think this Damdred?

Like I said earlier, I'm sure you can show me you're town by EoD. Why the pessimism?

I'm actually a spectacularly untunnelly player, it's very very rare that I tunnel a townie to death.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 10:28 GMT
#760
vigis will always shoot anyway, no-one pays attention to ml like that. not at the start.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 10:31 GMT
#762
On February 04 2015 11:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 11:55 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 11:54 Holyflare wrote:
yes she's dying after damdred i literally already told you this

But I don't think Damdred is mafia :/


then just don't question the reads of 3 other good people

lol. heyoooooooo.

good post though :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 10:31 GMT
#763
On February 04 2015 19:30 Koshi wrote:
Having an extra day is always better than shooting. always.

who cares? vigis shoot. that's what they do.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 10:33 GMT
#764
On February 04 2015 12:01 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 10:34 Holyflare wrote:
Damdred is far far far too sure about his reads. JAT just fooled people as mafia last game and plays as mafia generally well yet he's probably town, I have literally just been trolling yet at the top of the page he's trying to convince me to kill rs after he flips, marv he said be wary of yet still lists him as town even though he knows he's a miller....

silly

Like this is literally your only actual post explaining why Damdred is mafia, and it's actually not a good one because:

- "Probably town" is an ok read to give someone who's been relatively active and attentive d1 even if they play a good mafiasided game
- Unless he thinks you're definitely mafia he's going to try to dissuade you from lynching him
- His comments on marv made sense when he clarified them (saying don't let marv be lazy) and you ignored the clarification and didn't expound

no, they are still atrocious, just they are now explained atrocious.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 10:35 GMT
#765
HF is reading town to me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 10:36 GMT
#767
On February 04 2015 12:22 Eden1892 wrote:
Bruh that's still not saying marv is mafia. How tf are you guys reading it that way

Literally it's still "don't let marv be lazy confirmed town"

yes, and it's not a thing town Damdred would be saying.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 10:38 GMT
#768
It's page 30 and I'm already starting to just ignore Eden's posts...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 10:40 GMT
#772
Breshke has looked ok to me so far, but it's a very thin read
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February 04 2015 10:42 GMT
#773
On February 04 2015 13:03 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 12:49 Breshke wrote:
Onegu who do you want to lynch?



Rsoultin for now, would sheep marv on Damdred also.

see look, you're already a better player than Eden
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February 04 2015 10:47 GMT
#775
it's already been explained. HF explained it to death.
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February 04 2015 10:49 GMT
#776
On February 04 2015 13:41 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 13:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:04 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I understand why people calling me scum on my meta alone but I been playing some LoL games with my clan that's all and honestly I only played with scum!Eden and I getting a strange feeling from him this game that he might be scum but he seems sarcastic and trolling a lot earlier but he seem to be more serious now that how he was in our last game so (shrugs) Also I defended you rsoultin because I know you pretty damn well and you know it


I know you defend me a lot so I'm less suspicious when you do it vice other people. Where are your reads now, LS?

So far seems to be Eden possible scum but it just might be paranoia on my part and I did unvote him since I can't get a train going. Damdred Null leaning his actions early were pretty questionable to how he normally plays but he seemed to look better for now. Sicklucker might be town but the last time I gave him a free pass on Day 1 he was scum I will have to hold off on that for now. Marv and Palmar are town since they made a decent case on Damdred being scum and followed up on it. JAT is most likely town he doesn't seem to be like a dick like he was when he was scum in Void Mafia. HF null I only played with him as scum only seemed him as town for 1 game but I can't tell the difference for now. Bats null he made to little posts for me to read him correctly. Onegu might be possible town but I never played with him before but he got a couple good questions but his filter length is pretty small too. Breshke town he asking lots of questions about me like he did in Student V and trying to make a meta case on me being scum.


This is the most horrible post in the entire thread.

Firstly LS shows little understanding of what is going on in the thread, First he has a scum read on eden (who is really towny btw) for no reasons at all basically just trolling earlier when it was a play rather than trolling. Now he calls my actions into question that I did earlier but doesn't give any information about them at all, I questioned his scum read but my actions are questionable?

This is just a mafia post if I've seen one

Look! Yes, Eden is really towny and he's been really towny since the start, yet Damdred was questioning him pointlessly about the miller stuff.

Tut.
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February 04 2015 10:50 GMT
#777
On February 04 2015 13:48 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 13:46 Onegu wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:42 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:39 Onegu wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:36 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:34 Onegu wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:11 Onegu wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:05 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:03 Onegu wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:49 Breshke wrote:
Onegu who do you want to lynch?



Rsoultin for now, would sheep marv on Damdred also.


Because?



My brain says so. It's a feeling!



I missed that post. My bad. Well...enjoy your feelings I guess? So why is HF wrong?



If HF is town and I'm scum HF thinks im scum, if HF is scum and im town HF says I'm scum, if HF is town and im town HF thinks im scum. If I'm scum and HF is scum we bus the shit out of each other. So the only way HF is right is if I am scum. I am town therefore He is wrong or scum. But prolly just wrong.


So what you're telling me is that he always calls you scum and that means nothing about your actual alignment. Okay, so why should I think you're town, when you're scumreading me based on feels and misinformation?



You shouldn't...



But you can sheep Marvs read on me when he is back, marv always knows when I am scum and when I am town.

Actually I got it wrong last time and it made me very, very sad
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February 04 2015 10:52 GMT
#778
LightningStrike made what I thought was one very good read in his big paragraph of random reads that everyone hated. I'm not saying what it is right now, but it's enough that I don't want to kill him at the moment over Damdred.
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February 04 2015 10:58 GMT
#779
1 Breshke - looks kinda townie maybe?
2 Eden1892 - bad but very townie
3 rsoultin - ehhhh, doesn't look great
4 LightningStrike - looks terrible but doesn't necessarily make him mafia
5 Onegu - looks kinda ok?
6 Damdred - looks mafia
7 Palmar - seems townie
8 marvellosity - really nice bottom
9 sicklucker - eh? play mang...
10 batsnacks - i'd guess town, weakly
11 Koshi - shrug
12 Holyflare - looked townie to me so far
13 justanothertownie - absent. worrying
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February 04 2015 11:23 GMT
#782
that's nice

the problem is, damdred is mafia
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February 04 2015 11:24 GMT
#783
all you did when you replaced me in Void was defend mafia, Koshi.

so meh.
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February 04 2015 11:27 GMT
#784
On February 04 2015 20:23 Palmar wrote:
okay I'm going to ride this towncred for a while.

gonna lynch you if he flips town bro
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February 04 2015 11:32 GMT
#787
fine. you refused to vote for mafia for non-reasons. anyway

damdred is still mafia
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February 04 2015 11:33 GMT
#789
obviously the townreads you mentioned are pretty thin and any one of them could actually be mafia, yes
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February 04 2015 11:35 GMT
#792
don't worry bbygrl, i forget noone
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February 04 2015 11:38 GMT
#794
There's plenty more where that came from
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February 04 2015 11:40 GMT
#796
Catching scum lol

I really should have been Chief Mate
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February 04 2015 12:22 GMT
#800
it is worrying. you saying it isn't worrying doesn't make it less worrying.
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February 04 2015 12:44 GMT
#807
On February 04 2015 21:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 21:22 marvellosity wrote:
it is worrying. you saying it isn't worrying doesn't make it less worrying.

You know that I have no problem being active as scum so I don't get why it worries you.

i don't need you to understand.
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February 04 2015 13:08 GMT
#812
On February 04 2015 22:05 rsoultin wrote:
marv, on a scale of 1-10 how certain are you on Damdred?

and what makes bats town?

Dunno. 8?

bats - dunno. the auto-quick sheep
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February 04 2015 13:13 GMT
#816
i've no idea about damdred questioning eden's list.
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February 04 2015 13:14 GMT
#818
read the thread?
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February 04 2015 13:24 GMT
#822
I agree with everything that I, HF, and Palmar said about Damdred.
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February 04 2015 13:24 GMT
#823
and there's plenty of it. Read our filters.
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February 04 2015 13:25 GMT
#825
On February 04 2015 22:25 Palmar wrote:
I don't agree with whatever anyone other than me said about damdred and it's slightly concerning.

you should.
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February 04 2015 13:28 GMT
#827
On February 04 2015 22:09 batsnacks wrote:
SL is mafia this game here's why:

Post game in Void mafia he went on this cocky spiel about how he doesn't try any harder than he needs to as mafia because he doesn't want to reveal all his skills in one game. This game he starts out saying he won't be contributing and he isn't. Voting Damdred is also consistent with this theory because the people in this game SL considers "strong players" are all voting Damdred and sheeping them is an easy way to stay off their radar. Instead of trying to contribute far out original theories like town SL does he is deferring to people like marv, asking them if things are "weird," as if asking for approval.

does that mean you'd rather kill sl than Damdred, dear?
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February 04 2015 13:34 GMT
#829
Damdy can you explain again to me why LS is obvious mafia?
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February 04 2015 13:48 GMT
#834
I did have a quick browse of LS's mafia game in Student a little while ago, didn't really see any particular anger or anything in that game
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February 04 2015 13:50 GMT
#835
An issue i have is how much of a different player I can attribute to Damdred from me

If I got tunnelled for (supposedly) terrible reasons early d1, my attitude would basically be that there is NO WAY I am getting lynched for this bs, I'm gonna shine town and by eod there is no chance I will be on the block.

meeeeh
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February 04 2015 14:18 GMT
#853
Palmar doesn't seem to care to push this lynch anymore, maybe we should find someone else
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February 04 2015 14:20 GMT
#854
I'll sheep bats instead, he's more interesting than Palmar

##unvote
##vote: sicklucker
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February 04 2015 14:24 GMT
#856
On February 04 2015 23:23 Damdred wrote:
I'm going to sheep bats since he caught SL in a lie.

but yea not lynching me is a good thing here

maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but the day is yet long and you can go about your business without me poking you for now.
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February 04 2015 14:27 GMT
#858
well if Palmar isn't gonna push his own lynch, he doesn't deserve me doing it for him.
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February 04 2015 14:59 GMT
#865
On February 04 2015 23:41 sicklucker wrote:
wait what. Your sheeping freakin batsnacks marv? Are you retarded

just trying it out, see how it feels, ya know
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February 04 2015 15:00 GMT
#866
hey koshi, why is rsoultin 100% town?
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February 04 2015 15:03 GMT
#867
I guess jat could be mafia?

There's literally one line in his filter about Damdred and then nothing else of anything

dnu
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February 04 2015 15:17 GMT
#869
no, you're right you're doing nothing.
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February 04 2015 15:22 GMT
#871
well that's not 100%

try saying what you mean.
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February 04 2015 15:31 GMT
#874
I think maybe I need to not do anything for 24h and see what's happened then.
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February 04 2015 16:18 GMT
#896
On February 05 2015 01:17 LightningStrike wrote:
oh I didn't read the OP it seems like they are aware so it's easy for scum to claim Miller when they get red checked.

no it isn't, any miller claim after the start of the game gets auto-lynched
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February 04 2015 16:22 GMT
#898
On February 05 2015 01:21 sicklucker wrote:
like Ls why did you claim vt? Remember when I told you never to claim vt? Now that I know you either vt or mafia I actually want you to die more then you can imagine. If I thought there was a 30% chance you were scum I would take those odds so you have to be pretty damn townie now

this is a stupid post
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February 04 2015 16:25 GMT
#902
*you're
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February 04 2015 16:26 GMT
#904
I'm on TL, that's kinda par for the course
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February 04 2015 16:37 GMT
#910
the other half is actually just derp
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February 04 2015 16:41 GMT
#914
you caught Oats day 1 too LS. Don't let big meanie sl get to you.
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February 04 2015 21:01 GMT
#954
On February 05 2015 05:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Also I am retracting this:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 01:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv you are annoying just shut up like you promised :/

Marv, I am hereby allowing you to post again.

Thank god.

Also handily coincides with me getting back from exercise + eating dinner
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February 04 2015 21:03 GMT
#956
I don't really want to lynch you atm anyway jat, I just like needling you.

Maybe Breshke could be an ok lynch, but I'd have to actually read his filter and check out some past games which I can't really be bothered to do right now.
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February 04 2015 21:04 GMT
#959
On February 05 2015 06:04 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 06:03 marvellosity wrote:
I don't really want to lynch you atm anyway jat, I just like needling you.

Maybe Breshke could be an ok lynch, but I'd have to actually read his filter and check out some past games which I can't really be bothered to do right now.

They are in the thread.........

which has absolutely nothing to do with me actually reading and thinking about them, but thanks babe.
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February 04 2015 21:07 GMT
#962
On February 05 2015 06:07 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 06:04 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2015 06:04 Koshi wrote:
On February 05 2015 06:03 marvellosity wrote:
I don't really want to lynch you atm anyway jat, I just like needling you.

Maybe Breshke could be an ok lynch, but I'd have to actually read his filter and check out some past games which I can't really be bothered to do right now.

They are in the thread.........

which has absolutely nothing to do with me actually reading and thinking about them, but thanks babe.

Let's say I made some kind of lazy poe lynch pool list. Would it be asking too much to get an opinion on that?

see my list from previously, broadly assume that anyone i'm thinly townreading could actually be mafia, and voila :p
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February 04 2015 21:08 GMT
#963
although I quite fancy LS for town tbh.
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February 04 2015 21:09 GMT
#965
tbh one reason i think Breshke could be mafia is that I seem to have reasons to townread almost everybody.

Oops
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February 04 2015 21:10 GMT
#968
that's another reason I think Damdred is still mafia.
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February 04 2015 21:10 GMT
#969
no, the other list.
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February 04 2015 21:12 GMT
#974
I don't get these rsoultin townreads.

maybe she just plays in a style that i find really hard to get a grip on.

still really dislike her comment to eden at the start of the game
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February 04 2015 21:12 GMT
#975
On February 05 2015 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
hahaha i bet he even checked

yes, i do hope so
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February 04 2015 21:13 GMT
#977
excellent. eeeexcellent.
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February 04 2015 21:13 GMT
#979
One of the great joys of my life is that I amuse myself tremendously :D
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February 04 2015 21:17 GMT
#986
On February 04 2015 08:57 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 08:54 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:53 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:47 Eden1892 wrote:

I am positive you were giving me sideways looks for more than that


That would be when you started defending me for no good reason last game.

Moooooore than thaaaaaaat

But I can give you a day if we kill Damdred first?

But at the same time maybe Damdred is town, I don't get where his questions are going from a mafia POV.

iHijole!


The night kill whine was the first thing I called you ooooout ooooon.

So why do you want to kill Damdred if you think he may be town? Not making sense here, Eden.

I just think this is a really dumb, nonsensical question.

Eden is obviously entertaining the thought that Damdred may be town, because Damdred quite obviously is not confirmed mafia to him or anyone at that point in the game. Eden's just musing over Damdred's motivations.

Eden was obviously not saying "I think Damdred is town so I want to lynch him" like the question makes out.
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February 04 2015 21:18 GMT
#987
like if I asked that question I'd expect to be lynched for it.
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February 04 2015 21:20 GMT
#991
no, that's not how it reads at all. with the "you're not making sense here eden"
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February 04 2015 21:21 GMT
#994
like it's quite obviously not how you phrased it eden with that bit on the end
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February 04 2015 21:21 GMT
#995
On February 05 2015 06:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Forgot about rsoultin. She is in the Breshke/etc. category too.

she's in your list idiot
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February 04 2015 21:22 GMT
#999
I really, really don't like Damdred's super-certain read on LS

I have no idea how you can hard-read LS as mafia for the posts that LS did.

LS always plays pretty weird. It's such an over-read?
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February 04 2015 21:23 GMT
#1001
On February 05 2015 06:22 Eden1892 wrote:
oh btw marv if I'm so bad for defending Damdred why did you unvote Damdred??

gottem coach

to punish Palmar
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February 04 2015 21:23 GMT
#1003
bothers you how? I'm like a billion percent town at this point
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February 04 2015 21:25 GMT
#1005
I'm obviously just giving everyone too much credit because it was really clear to me what eden was saying/doing/thinking, but it seems it wasn't really clear to anyone else.
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February 04 2015 21:26 GMT
#1008
Damdred probably should die for that LS read. It's so... easy, too certain, doesn't explore the possibility that LS-town could make it, even though I'm sure he could
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February 04 2015 21:28 GMT
#1012
On February 05 2015 06:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 06:26 marvellosity wrote:
Damdred probably should die for that LS read. It's so... easy, too certain, doesn't explore the possibility that LS-town could make it, even though I'm sure he could

And more importantly DAMDRED should know he probably could.

that's implied yes.

damn giving people too much credit again

Eden: no he never backed off it, in fact he reinforced it
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February 04 2015 21:30 GMT
#1016
On February 05 2015 06:29 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 06:28 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2015 06:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 05 2015 06:26 marvellosity wrote:
Damdred probably should die for that LS read. It's so... easy, too certain, doesn't explore the possibility that LS-town could make it, even though I'm sure he could

And more importantly DAMDRED should know he probably could.

that's implied yes.

damn giving people too much credit again

Eden: no he never backed off it, in fact he reinforced it

correct, I saw he moved his vote and assumed he backed off of it, but it turns out he just went for SL instead because ???

because i did, i think is the net of it
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February 04 2015 21:30 GMT
#1018
oh yeah, bats caught sl in a lie.

which is really really weak.

it's especially weak to vote for sl when he just spent like 3 paragraphs explaining to me why LS is definitely mafia

it's all wrong
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February 04 2015 21:33 GMT
#1021
because you're the actual baddie, that's why
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February 04 2015 21:36 GMT
#1027
On February 05 2015 06:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 06:30 marvellosity wrote:
oh yeah, bats caught sl in a lie.

which is really really weak.

it's especially weak to vote for sl when he just spent like 3 paragraphs explaining to me why LS is definitely mafia

it's all wrong

I am confused. Wasn't bats talking about SL and is voting Breshke?

yeah he moved on
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#1028
or maybe he didn't

lol
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February 04 2015 21:40 GMT
#1031
I think Breshke's scumread on LS is better than Damdred's.

Damdred's is way, way harder which by default makes it a worse read.

One thing I noticed in Breshke's filter is that Breshke actually *defended* LS's use of meta, even though he went on to scumread him not long after.

That reads kinda townie to me - as in, he is actually thinking about LS's alignment, he's thinking about that part of his play and doesn't think it was scummy, but thought other parts of it were scummy.

If Breshke is mafia, then he would have had to have made the post where he said LS's meta-use wasn't actually scummy and then suddenly decide that he was going to scumread LS. Which is definitely possible, but the alternative town-explanation I just gave I think is possible too.

I think the town-explanation for Damdred's read on LS has a much lower probability than what i just described
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February 04 2015 21:45 GMT
#1037
On February 04 2015 13:14 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:56 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:52 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:49 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not scum so im prop not gonna care about this day 1

Really you going to skip Day 1 discussion just because you don't want to play it out? You should know better than that...............


Is this the post you were talking about, Eden? That doesn't read to me like LS getting onto SL for not reading.

Well, intending not to play, if I'm gonna be precise about it. But I think you get what I'm getting at here - it is strange to me that LS criticizes sicklucker for declaring his intention not to care about day 1 when LS himself clearly isn't paying much attention. It just seems like LS is choosing lame things to snipe, and in the case of the player he voted for, he also just didn't make sense.

I think this case is a lot better than the Damdred one honestly.


Lol, Eden, were you trolling in your last two scum games? Cause if you were, I can see where he's getting it from. He does these meta things like every game.

It is hypocritical assuming that LS doesn't return to the thread, and if that's the case I'll probably happily vote him with you.

I was intermittently trolling in Linux and very sparsely trolling in NYE.

The problem is that I troll at least a little bit in every game. I trolled the shit out of Hammertime d1. I fuckin drunkposted like Lindsey Lohan the first like 6 hours or so of that game. I trolled to start here by fakeclaiming miller just to do it and managed to improvise it into something resembling a legit play. I didn't troll in Imperial but that's probably just because I was fresh off of a hiatus and had something to prove to myself. I trolled the whole game in World Heavyweight as town and then shit the bed at LYLO and I trolled to start Melee Mini with a similar play as in this game.

"Eden trolled at some point" is a terrible meta read, and even if LS uses meta too much there's still two problems with his use here:
- He clearly didn't actually check it against prior games when I was town. If you're going to run a meta case saying "ABC did XYZ and ABC does XYZ when ABC is mafia," you should probably make sure ABC doesn't also do XYZ as town.
- By the time he actually posted I had long since stopped trolling and had been ?arguably? the most productive player in the thread so far, certainly in the top 3 somewhere. So LS's read wasn't even correct. At no point from the time he posted it was it ever actually an accurate read.


LS tries to use meta a lot which i believe he said he was going tot ry and stop but correct me if im wrong anyone he really isn't the type of person to go back and look at peoples games. He more uses it from games he has participated in or asking other players about peoples meta. So yes its bad he didn't go look at your town games but i don't think it is scummy

I actually meant this one
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February 04 2015 21:45 GMT
#1038
the fact koshi isn't just with me on damdred makes me feel better about that lynch.

is that naughty of me?
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February 04 2015 21:47 GMT
#1041
On February 05 2015 06:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 13:14 Breshke wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:56 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:52 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:49 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not scum so im prop not gonna care about this day 1

Really you going to skip Day 1 discussion just because you don't want to play it out? You should know better than that...............


Is this the post you were talking about, Eden? That doesn't read to me like LS getting onto SL for not reading.

Well, intending not to play, if I'm gonna be precise about it. But I think you get what I'm getting at here - it is strange to me that LS criticizes sicklucker for declaring his intention not to care about day 1 when LS himself clearly isn't paying much attention. It just seems like LS is choosing lame things to snipe, and in the case of the player he voted for, he also just didn't make sense.

I think this case is a lot better than the Damdred one honestly.


Lol, Eden, were you trolling in your last two scum games? Cause if you were, I can see where he's getting it from. He does these meta things like every game.

It is hypocritical assuming that LS doesn't return to the thread, and if that's the case I'll probably happily vote him with you.

I was intermittently trolling in Linux and very sparsely trolling in NYE.

The problem is that I troll at least a little bit in every game. I trolled the shit out of Hammertime d1. I fuckin drunkposted like Lindsey Lohan the first like 6 hours or so of that game. I trolled to start here by fakeclaiming miller just to do it and managed to improvise it into something resembling a legit play. I didn't troll in Imperial but that's probably just because I was fresh off of a hiatus and had something to prove to myself. I trolled the whole game in World Heavyweight as town and then shit the bed at LYLO and I trolled to start Melee Mini with a similar play as in this game.

"Eden trolled at some point" is a terrible meta read, and even if LS uses meta too much there's still two problems with his use here:
- He clearly didn't actually check it against prior games when I was town. If you're going to run a meta case saying "ABC did XYZ and ABC does XYZ when ABC is mafia," you should probably make sure ABC doesn't also do XYZ as town.
- By the time he actually posted I had long since stopped trolling and had been ?arguably? the most productive player in the thread so far, certainly in the top 3 somewhere. So LS's read wasn't even correct. At no point from the time he posted it was it ever actually an accurate read.


LS tries to use meta a lot which i believe he said he was going tot ry and stop but correct me if im wrong anyone he really isn't the type of person to go back and look at peoples games. He more uses it from games he has participated in or asking other players about peoples meta. So yes its bad he didn't go look at your town games but i don't think it is scummy

ahh this. I didn't read this. I don't understand what he is saying.

Eden is saying "LS's read on me is bad, because he is misusing meta because he didn't go back to check if i did what i'm doing in my towngames"

Breshke says "yes it is bad, but LS uses meta on games that he's played in himself, so although he should have checked the towngames, I don't think it's scummy that he didn't given how LS uses meta"
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February 04 2015 21:50 GMT
#1045
On February 05 2015 06:49 Eden1892 wrote:
Yeah sorry Koshi I don't see it re: Breshke. I think if everyone goes to Breshke's filter, finds the two posts Koshi quoted, scrolls up a couple more posts and then reads his filter from there to the end, you'll see a very natural, deliberating, evolving read on LS that makes sense from a townie POV

yeah this.

and then you compare it to Damdred's read... just sooooo certain.

Like LS could even be mafia! he could, even though I don't think he is at this point. but even if he is, LS is not "certain mafia" based on what he's posted and Damdred shouldn't be thinking he is
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February 04 2015 21:57 GMT
#1050
just sheep me and everything will be ok, i promise
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February 04 2015 22:03 GMT
#1058
On February 05 2015 07:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
yes exactly we're going damred > rs since damd was kind enough to point out his partner


man i was so on point like an hour into this game

rs has just been really really reactive and not digging enough from what i've seen in her town game so i'm happy with these 2 being mafia for now

On February 04 2015 09:07 marvellosity wrote:
Damdred/rsoultin gg

timestamps bro
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February 04 2015 22:06 GMT
#1064
On February 05 2015 07:06 Holyflare wrote:
it's quite clearly a fear read

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February 04 2015 22:14 GMT
#1070
i'm sure he's relieved to hear it
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February 04 2015 22:19 GMT
#1076
it's not a great list really
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February 04 2015 22:20 GMT
#1080
On February 05 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
yeh rsoul is green when I just gave the best case against her ever

1 trillion percent not an exaggeration
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February 04 2015 22:38 GMT
#1099
On February 05 2015 07:28 Damdred wrote:
Well i'm home slowly reading through filters, i'm not sure you read all of Linux Marv I was really sure about most of my reads I posted look at my early trfel read that I threw away after awhile. Until I finally settled onto Eden being scum and b uilt my case there, lately I've been generally presenting my reads as very sure even if I change my mind later so I really hate that read of yours.

Sorry, no
On February 01 2015 00:40 Damdred wrote:
I was looking at Trfel filter again and a few things popped up at me that raised a red flag.

Really hard disbelief/doubt on robik claim when it happened. This is interesting to me because of the difference in what Trfel did and thread. People were mad at Rob claiming but believed it, brownies generally believe claims due to it adding more information and game being slightly easier even if it's bad. Mafia already knew partial setup, and disbelief to robik claim could be a Scum slip from to much info.

Moving on thread presence is really down and lots of excuses about why he's not posting much.

Lastly a pretty decent sized list post with no conclusive reads no Scum reads just really noncommittal reads,

Trfel is scum

Yes you're calling him scum

but it's "a few things popped up that raised a red flag"

not "kill LS confirmed mafia"
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February 04 2015 23:18 GMT
#1125
##Vote: Damdred
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February 04 2015 23:24 GMT
#1128
sicklucker might be town for all his stupid policy lynch posts. I don't think he made posts like that as mafia but I'd have to check. Mostly his reads were actual reads and/or buses when he was scum.

don't feel that strongly about it but it's a thought
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February 04 2015 23:30 GMT
#1131
On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense.

yes, this is also true.
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February 04 2015 23:55 GMT
#1146
hmm
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February 04 2015 23:57 GMT
#1148
it's kinda compelling
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February 05 2015 00:00 GMT
#1151
i could be convinced into an sl vote maybe.

but not tonight, too tired to think
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February 05 2015 00:22 GMT
#1166
On February 05 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
rs is like the biggest mafia and hardly anyone is mentioning her and goes off making cases on other people instead

i'm still with you
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February 05 2015 00:22 GMT
#1167
ish
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#1176
On February 05 2015 09:27 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 09:24 Holyflare wrote:
that sounds familiar damdred

On February 04 2015 11:47 Damdred wrote:
I am avoiding hf because his heads up his ass atm and its not enjoyable talking to him much


Shit like this is really pissing me off. Why are you just sniping at him from the sidelines? He posts a case that sounds pretty townie and you're content just to dump on him instead of engage it or rethink your position or even just read it, argue why it doesn't matter and move on. You don't seem like you give a shit tbh.

yeah, that wasn't great.
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February 05 2015 00:45 GMT
#1180
not sure about that.
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February 05 2015 10:09 GMT
#1459
On February 05 2015 13:22 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 13:21 Holyflare wrote:
the jig is up


If I wasn't sheeping my self on Koshi id totally vote you

kinda getting bored with you being useless and throwing your vote away actually.

it's pretty shit.
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February 05 2015 10:17 GMT
#1463
On February 05 2015 14:56 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 14:54 Holyflare wrote:
it's pretty impossible to have a tell on me when i'm pretty much not participating in the game so I can already tell you it's wrong


So why don't you participate?

why don't you?
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February 05 2015 10:23 GMT
#1464
Onegu could absolutely be mafia, but it feels amazingly coinflippy.

There is nothing of any substance in his filter at all, it's all just shit. Steaming shit.
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February 05 2015 10:52 GMT
#1466
Read Breshke's filter + a few of his town/mafia games, didn't get as much out of it as I'd hoped. Hedging town for the moment
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February 05 2015 10:53 GMT
#1467
wow and it took me almost half an hour. What a load of poo.
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February 05 2015 11:21 GMT
#1472
On February 05 2015 20:11 Breshke wrote:
What did you get out of it

well, you were more interesting as town. Your filters were short as mafia. That game you were my scumbuddy you made quite a bad push on coag as policy, that doesn't seem to be present here. In one of the Student games you were mafia, a lot of your questions were asking people why other people were town, again doesn't seem to be as present here or in your other towngames.

Earlier I thought your "i townread eden, palmar, marv but i dunno about damdred" was townie, but if he's your scumbuddy that's actually exactly how you'd treat Damdred, because it's how you treated my wagon in Metal.

Generally your "interesting level" seems somewhere in between this game, which is why i'm not sure about you at all
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February 05 2015 11:29 GMT
#1474
maybe enough has gone on that you should have been more interesting by now. hmm
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February 05 2015 11:34 GMT
#1475
seems i probably won't decide who i want to lynch until much closer to deadline :/
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February 05 2015 12:09 GMT
#1479
On February 05 2015 21:06 Breshke wrote:
Marv can you pick the towniest person out of this list for me


3 rsoultin
5 Onegu
7 Palmar
10 batsnacks
12 Holyflare
13 justanothertownie



not very easily

I think Palmar-bats-HF are townier than the other 3, if that's any help
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February 05 2015 13:44 GMT
#1489
Inertia.

jat seems like a decent lynch, his play has very little impetus. I kinda wanted to leave it till later but you'll bug me otherwise
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February 05 2015 13:45 GMT
#1490
tbh there's been enough about Damdred's play that I'm not gonna be comfortable townreading him for quite a while
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February 05 2015 13:54 GMT
#1494
Playing with Palmar in general is becoming a chore, his try to non-try ratio of games has reached the point where on balance it's probably not enjoyable anymore

it also feels like jat dodged Damdred's big case on sl a bit, he made a couple of short posts after it saying he was off and going to bed, but I dunno, I always read up to my last post, and I would have commented on it...

of course i have absolutely nothing to prove this and he could genuinely just not have read it, it's just an annoying thing.
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February 05 2015 13:55 GMT
#1495
On February 05 2015 22:51 Damdred wrote:
He is still selectively quoting and interacting with people.

yeah thats not a scumtell for him
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February 05 2015 13:57 GMT
#1497
no it isn't

in Imperial he didn't answer 95% of questions/stuff directed at him
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February 05 2015 13:58 GMT
#1500
see the problem is i can see scum-damdred making this case on SL.

meh
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February 05 2015 13:59 GMT
#1501
there's just something off about his stuff on LS and sicklucker a bit.
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February 05 2015 13:59 GMT
#1504
On February 05 2015 22:59 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 22:57 marvellosity wrote:
no it isn't

in Imperial he didn't answer 95% of questions/stuff directed at him

Literally the example I had in mind for [3]. A+

it's annoying even as scum when it actually helps me lol
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February 05 2015 14:02 GMT
#1507
On February 05 2015 23:00 Damdred wrote:
Yea fuck it just lynch me i'm not going to try when people ignore half of what I said even when they say oh its a good case. This shit is just stupid.

holy overreaction batman...
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February 05 2015 14:03 GMT
#1508
actually really scummy.

Eden explained quite nicely the problems with your case, and I also pointed out something that's not true about what you said, and you fly off the handle?

scummy.
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February 05 2015 14:04 GMT
#1511
ok xx
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#1512
On February 05 2015 23:04 Damdred wrote:
JAT has a much lower chance to flip scum than SL does. You have hard defended SL for pages and haven't even responded to any part of my case or my response to your original reasons why hes scum when instead you directed the thread towards a different vein which is total bullshit.

Now Breshke and SL are voting together when bresh said my case was good and I was town. You don't even blink when SL changes from Lets kill Damdred since mafia is trying to push off me onto him and all of a sudden hes super happy lynching JAT.

Who by the way is always super try hard as mafia tone is super different from his mafia game.

You're forgetting he just came off a long and tedious game of mafia himself
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February 05 2015 14:09 GMT
#1517
On February 05 2015 23:08 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 23:05 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2015 23:04 Damdred wrote:
JAT has a much lower chance to flip scum than SL does. You have hard defended SL for pages and haven't even responded to any part of my case or my response to your original reasons why hes scum when instead you directed the thread towards a different vein which is total bullshit.

Now Breshke and SL are voting together when bresh said my case was good and I was town. You don't even blink when SL changes from Lets kill Damdred since mafia is trying to push off me onto him and all of a sudden hes super happy lynching JAT.

Who by the way is always super try hard as mafia tone is super different from his mafia game.

You're forgetting he just came off a long and tedious game of mafia himself


Except he had just came off a long tedious game in heavyweight rolled scum on p2p and rolled the game

he's also never this dull and boring and ineffective as town though, is he?
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February 05 2015 14:19 GMT
#1528
maybe if you played the game yourself a bit, it wouldn't be a problem
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February 05 2015 14:30 GMT
#1542
On February 05 2015 23:29 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 15:48 Holyflare wrote:
On February 05 2015 15:40 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 05 2015 06:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so the people I could maybe be convinced to lynch are:

1 Breshke
3 rsoultin
5 Onegu
6 Damdred
9 sicklucker
10 batsnacks
12 Holyflare

I don't actually want to lynch HF that much but I have seen nothing from him that he couldn't do as scum so fuck him.

Breshke/Onegu/bats are more POE because they haven't been as towny as the rest of the game but there were still moments from all 3 of them that made me think they could be town. Would need a good case on those to lynch them.

SL and Damdred look the worst to me and would be my prefered lynch targets right now.

But yeah this list. I don't like it at all.

Holyflare is on there for no reason. I bugged him about this and he basically confirmed HF is there for no reason.

He has 3 people that he lists as "could be convinced to lynch" but then says he would "need a good case on [them] to lynch them" which doesn't make sense. If you'd need a good case on them then obviously you don't really think they're mafia, so why do you even bother to list them in this set? What's really interesting too is that he clarifies to put rsoultin in this group, but unlike all the others here, rsoultin is actually being pushed. If you think someone probably isn't mafia then why aren't you going to bat for them in the thread when other people are trying to lynch them?

When you distill it down it's just Damdred and SL which, oh yeah, have been the same targets people talked about all day. JAT provides no original insight or reasoning into lynching any of them and doesn't even bother to rehash reasons people already stated.

And all that could be okay if it were just an update list to tell us where he's at, and if he planned to do more later to narrow this down and give some more useful reads. But that's not what happened. He ends up asking me some questions that clearly weren't going anywhere because "you can never be too sure" I'm not mafia. Says some stuff about SL that is incorrect, some other zzz one-liners. Put yourself in that situation as a townie. You allegedly have a pool of lynches that's half of the game long with 24 hours to pick one, and you know you have sleep and work coming up taking out the majority of that time. Surely you're going to make some meaningful effort to engage people and refine your views right? JAT doesn't do this.

We should lynch him


none of this makes him potential mafia other than the bolded


This is also strange, because that's absolutely not the scummiest thing JAT pointed out. Like the fact JAT wants to lynch half the game is probably what is the least scummy about him.

that's not what HF said.
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February 05 2015 14:31 GMT
#1546
On February 05 2015 23:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 23:27 Eden1892 wrote:
LS why do you think there's no case for JAT being mafia? I'm biased obviously but I think that's a pretty bold statement to make without anything to back it up

Like when I read your thing on JAT it doesn't seem much of a case it more like here why I think JAT is mafia type of thing .

yes that's what a case is.
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February 05 2015 14:38 GMT
#1561
On February 05 2015 23:33 Palmar wrote:
How about you post a damn case Eden, stop sucking. Don't just say why you think he's mafia. MAKE A CASE.

[image loading]
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February 05 2015 14:39 GMT
#1564
On February 05 2015 23:37 LightningStrike wrote:
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On February 05 2015 23:32 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 05 2015 23:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 05 2015 23:27 Eden1892 wrote:
LS why do you think there's no case for JAT being mafia? I'm biased obviously but I think that's a pretty bold statement to make without anything to back it up

Like when I read your thing on JAT it doesn't seem much of a case it more like here why I think JAT is mafia type of thing and honestly I do agree with I think HF on the fact the only like the last 2 sentences was the only thing I can get out of that can make JAT be scum.

wtf does that even mean?

and why do you think only the last 2 sentences make JAT mafia?

Mainly it seems like just your thoughts that's it. JAT haven't done much other than a few questions and calling me town. Only the last two sentences really would make JAT mafia because of the fact he didn't really ask much to refine his views and more sheepish I think is the right term here? Anyways that's my thoughts on your thing on JAT.

LightningStrike: to the bolded. Does that seem like a town or a mafia thing to you?
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February 05 2015 14:41 GMT
#1565
On February 05 2015 23:39 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 23:38 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2015 23:33 Palmar wrote:
How about you post a damn case Eden, stop sucking. Don't just say why you think he's mafia. MAKE A CASE.

[image loading]

so slow old man.

I had to dig it up from the old mafia awards threads.

Still one of the things that has made me laugh most in mafia
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February 05 2015 14:41 GMT
#1568
me too.
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February 05 2015 14:43 GMT
#1572
alright, choo choo, why not

##unvote
##vote: jat
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February 05 2015 14:44 GMT
#1576
a bit before my time, jackal.
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February 05 2015 14:45 GMT
#1580
On February 05 2015 23:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 23:39 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2015 23:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 05 2015 23:32 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 05 2015 23:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 05 2015 23:27 Eden1892 wrote:
LS why do you think there's no case for JAT being mafia? I'm biased obviously but I think that's a pretty bold statement to make without anything to back it up

Like when I read your thing on JAT it doesn't seem much of a case it more like here why I think JAT is mafia type of thing and honestly I do agree with I think HF on the fact the only like the last 2 sentences was the only thing I can get out of that can make JAT be scum.

wtf does that even mean?

and why do you think only the last 2 sentences make JAT mafia?

Mainly it seems like just your thoughts that's it. JAT haven't done much other than a few questions and calling me town. Only the last two sentences really would make JAT mafia because of the fact he didn't really ask much to refine his views and more sheepish I think is the right term here? Anyways that's my thoughts on your thing on JAT.

LightningStrike: to the bolded. Does that seem like a town or a mafia thing to you?

Maybe mafia but I can see it from him being town but I might also be bias I only played with JAT once before and he was town so meh.

If you played with jat before, in your words, did he "not do much" in that game?
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February 05 2015 14:46 GMT
#1582
On February 05 2015 23:44 Palmar wrote:
Warning: Associative Read

JAT mafia actually sort of does fit with Damdy mafia

of course it does, i've been thinking that for ages.
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February 05 2015 14:46 GMT
#1583
and yes i did know about jackal/coag
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February 05 2015 14:48 GMT
#1588
here's the scenario that's playing in my mind.

Damdred is mafia and he's in trouble, makes a case on LS, seems really certain on it, everyone calls him out on it, he backs down on it.

He makes a case on sicklucker, quite well presented.

Fast forwards in time, Eden starts pushing for jat, gains some traction.

Damdred comes back to the thread pushing his sicklucker read again, deflecting off the jat push

Eden and I make legimitate counterpoints to his read, and Damdred goes completely nuts.

Damdred+jat

NB: all this is potentially the highest fantasy, but it still fits
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February 05 2015 14:49 GMT
#1592
On February 05 2015 23:47 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2015 23:44 Palmar wrote:
Warning: Associative Read

JAT mafia actually sort of does fit with Damdy mafia

of course it does, i've been thinking that for ages.

want a medal?

if you buy me a bigger medal cabinet bro
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February 05 2015 14:49 GMT
#1595
On February 05 2015 23:49 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 23:49 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2015 23:47 Palmar wrote:
On February 05 2015 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2015 23:44 Palmar wrote:
Warning: Associative Read

JAT mafia actually sort of does fit with Damdy mafia

of course it does, i've been thinking that for ages.

want a medal?

if you buy me a bigger medal cabinet bro

those tee ball trophies aren't gonna present themselves!

actually i have a bunch of chess trophies. i am mega cool.
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February 05 2015 15:02 GMT
#1599
The evolution of rsoultin's read on Damdred is really bizarre.

She seems happy to push and push the point about Damdred making. Then later she's now ok with the explanation that Damdred gives.

Then there's:
On February 04 2015 22:14 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 04 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
i've no idea about damdred questioning eden's list.


then what's the scumread for?

Like, really? There's so much in the thread already, there's stuff that rsoultin even pushed herself, the stuff from HF, the stuff from Palmar that I explicitly said had merit.

How can she be asking this. bleh
On February 05 2015 12:31 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah, I'm not seeing policy lynching, and there's also this lovely gem from Metal where he was town:

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On December 17 2014 11:47 sicklucker wrote:
I always start out day 1 slow if im not tunneling on some mechanic. The threads been dominated by players ive never played with and ls whos been covered to death so I dont feel I have much to add yet. Lets be real Im not a policy lynch ,im hyper active sometimes right sometimes wrong, never afraid to speak my mind(thats how you read me) But I always try


##vote sicklucker

this is a really bad vote reason as well

Then there's the post that Palmar pointed out, where rsoultin said she could get behind the push on jat, but is gonna leave her vote on sl just because
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February 05 2015 15:03 GMT
#1601
"She seems happy to push and push the point about Damdred making" - the one about Damdred saying to me i shouldn't skate by
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February 05 2015 15:05 GMT
#1603
jat's gonna love coming back to this
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February 05 2015 15:43 GMT
#1632
On February 06 2015 00:31 Damdred wrote:
Anyway, hopefully when I flip scum people will look at what I wrote on people.

Definitely
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February 05 2015 15:49 GMT
#1644
On February 05 2015 23:09 marvellosity wrote:
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On February 05 2015 23:08 Damdred wrote:
On February 05 2015 23:05 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2015 23:04 Damdred wrote:
JAT has a much lower chance to flip scum than SL does. You have hard defended SL for pages and haven't even responded to any part of my case or my response to your original reasons why hes scum when instead you directed the thread towards a different vein which is total bullshit.

Now Breshke and SL are voting together when bresh said my case was good and I was town. You don't even blink when SL changes from Lets kill Damdred since mafia is trying to push off me onto him and all of a sudden hes super happy lynching JAT.

Who by the way is always super try hard as mafia tone is super different from his mafia game.

You're forgetting he just came off a long and tedious game of mafia himself


Except he had just came off a long tedious game in heavyweight rolled scum on p2p and rolled the game

he's also never this dull and boring and ineffective as town though, is he?

Damdy?
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February 05 2015 15:49 GMT
#1646
On February 06 2015 00:48 Eden1892 wrote:
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On February 06 2015 00:48 Koshi wrote:
It's when he flips we blame you guys. Not if he flips town.

...you said "when he flips town"

this is one of those non-native thingies. Koshi has his own style of speaking
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February 05 2015 15:53 GMT
#1650
On February 06 2015 00:51 Damdred wrote:
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On February 06 2015 00:46 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 06 2015 00:45 Damdred wrote:
Which btw 7 vote on JAT at this point is really weird, as I think the reason for voting JAT are really bad. And the case on SL is much better.

You are more than welcome to discuss the JAT case with me if you think it's bad


I have already said what I thought.

Nothing you posted makes him mafia, sometimes he just doesn't do much as town through D1. You said the game was really hard and you have waffled about almost half of the game so i'm not sure why lynching into people JAT wasn't town reading is necessarily scummy.

His reads are generally boring overall even as town, he says what he has to in as few words as possible as both alignments so kinda null.

What you wrote doesn't make him mafia in my eyes.

so why don't you engage me when i point out something in your sl stuff isn't a scumtell, and you have a bitch fit at me instead?

nothing i said was unfair or aggressive.
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February 05 2015 15:56 GMT
#1654
On February 06 2015 00:54 Damdred wrote:
Because it is a scum tell, he tries his best as town to be as spastic as possible and answer everything. That's not here that's not in void that's not in Linux.


I literally pointed out a counter example.

Now what?
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February 05 2015 16:00 GMT
#1660
On February 06 2015 00:59 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 00:45 Damdred wrote:
Which btw 7 vote on JAT at this point is really weird, as I think the reason for voting JAT are really bad. And the case on SL is much better.


If your town can you consider the possibility im looking really town and this makes you look really bad? Because im town and your either wrong or mafia.

you're not looking really town, dear.
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February 05 2015 16:05 GMT
#1666
On February 06 2015 01:04 Palmar wrote:
I retract retracting my scumread on Damdred.

He is now scum4lyfe in this game for being super hostile and annoying. It does not fit with the personality I had attributed to him. He basically chooses to make stand-offs instead of actually trying to talk people into doing shit.

I think Damdred is a nice guy, and on the verge of becoming a truly great TL mafia player (like one of the elite players). This just doesn't fit with anything. It's out of character, it's weird, and it's not productive, and he KNOWS it's not productive.

I cannot believe he's town here.

i agree with all of it.

tbh i'm kinda expecting jat to push me off his lynch and i end up on damdred and i'll be happy about it
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February 05 2015 16:06 GMT
#1669
On February 06 2015 01:05 sicklucker wrote:
You guys really dont think im town?

I kinda think you're town, maybe, but I don't think anyone thinks you are "looking really town"
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February 05 2015 16:08 GMT
#1673
copycat
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February 05 2015 16:09 GMT
#1675
LOL
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February 05 2015 16:11 GMT
#1676
Just realised, if I made a list, I still have so many players I'd technically classify as "null"

2 really confident townreads and one likely townread
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February 05 2015 16:20 GMT
#1692
On February 06 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:
Just realised, if I made a list, I still have so many players I'd technically classify as "null"

2 really confident townreads and one likely townread

I sincerely hope I'm in the first group.

yes <3
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February 05 2015 16:25 GMT
#1698
On February 06 2015 01:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:
lol, marv you are voting me? Why?


for being rubbish
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February 05 2015 16:26 GMT
#1702
On February 06 2015 01:26 Palmar wrote:
who is the other confident town read marv?

eden
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February 05 2015 16:27 GMT
#1704
On February 06 2015 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
On February 06 2015 01:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 06 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:
lol, marv you are voting me? Why?


for being rubbish

Great. Since when do you lynch people you don't even scumread?

i expect you to be more rubbish as mafia than town
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February 05 2015 16:53 GMT
#1733
i'll be back a bit later
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February 05 2015 16:54 GMT
#1736
On February 06 2015 01:53 batsnacks wrote:
Dudes breshke is mafia.

He only talked at the beginning of the game and after two votes accumulated on him quickly.

Read his filter it's all passive.

starting to think this is possible yes
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February 05 2015 16:58 GMT
#1740
i'm not lynching bats today.
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February 05 2015 16:59 GMT
#1744
and yes, let's introduce koshi into the mix.

now, bbl for realsies.
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February 05 2015 17:00 GMT
#1745
and yeah, mafia get way over-invested in defending townies all the time, it's a very natural thing to do
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February 05 2015 17:48 GMT
#1811
On February 06 2015 02:46 Koshi wrote:
Imagine if the scumteam is marv/HF/Onegu

Who will catch them? Koshi will.

then make a read on Onegu.
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February 05 2015 17:55 GMT
#1815
I just know I won't have my lynch locked in before about 30 mins from EOD

prepare yourselves for shenannies, boys
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February 05 2015 18:33 GMT
#1850
On February 06 2015 03:21 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 03:19 Koshi wrote:
On February 06 2015 03:17 Onegu wrote:
On February 06 2015 03:16 Koshi wrote:
On February 06 2015 03:14 Onegu wrote:
On February 06 2015 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Why people voting Koshi?



Because he is being lazy, and being scum...

I wasn't lazy yesterday at all.
Today I speedreaded 40 pages. I know everything. I just dont' have results.


Then you should know I'm town and you don't...

I doubt that. On what grounds?



The grounds I claimed VT. Plus you should know me.

your play has been disgraceful.

step it up onegu.
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February 05 2015 18:44 GMT
#1857
you've not done much worth protecting i'm afraid
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February 05 2015 20:13 GMT
#1902
looks like he was answering a question you asked him
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February 05 2015 20:21 GMT
#1907
On February 06 2015 05:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 21:15 Breshke wrote:
On February 05 2015 21:09 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2015 21:06 Breshke wrote:
Marv can you pick the towniest person out of this list for me


3 rsoultin
5 Onegu
7 Palmar
10 batsnacks
12 Holyflare
13 justanothertownie



not very easily

I think Palmar-bats-HF are townier than the other 3, if that's any help


It'll do for now

Im voting JAT and going to bed ill be here before EoD night

Or this. Am I wrong or has Breshke not even mentioned me as a possble scumread before this? But somehow he is confident enough to vote me all of a sudden.
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On February 05 2015 22:54 marvellosity wrote:
it also feels like jat dodged Damdred's big case on sl a bit, he made a couple of short posts after it saying he was off and going to bed, but I dunno, I always read up to my last post, and I would have commented on it...

of course i have absolutely nothing to prove this and he could genuinely just not have read it, it's just an annoying thing.

I saw it. I even read it. But I couldn't be bothered to post again because I saw nothing wrong with it.

you were scumreading damdred at the time, so maybe it would make you rethink your read if you saw nothing wrong with it? ...
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February 05 2015 20:21 GMT
#1908
anyway i really don't want to get involved in the thread right now, carry on
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February 05 2015 20:30 GMT
#1917
it's tempting to give bats his lynch

but later
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February 05 2015 20:42 GMT
#1929
doesn't really matter, we're not going to lynch him today
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February 05 2015 20:43 GMT
#1931
so nothing?
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February 05 2015 20:46 GMT
#1935
can't be bothered, it doesn't seem important atm
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February 05 2015 20:49 GMT
#1937
your logic is bad
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February 05 2015 20:50 GMT
#1939
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February 05 2015 20:51 GMT
#1942
"probably"

cute
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February 05 2015 20:52 GMT
#1944
you are bad
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February 05 2015 20:53 GMT
#1946
like did you ever push for palmar in imperial for not doing shit? he was really inactive there for long periods
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February 05 2015 20:55 GMT
#1948
just think it's a weird stance to take, given palmar looks quite a bit better than he did in that game at this stage
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February 05 2015 20:56 GMT
#1950
they really aren't.
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February 05 2015 21:22 GMT
#2007
On February 06 2015 06:19 Onegu wrote:
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On February 06 2015 06:17 Holyflare wrote:
On February 06 2015 04:17 Onegu wrote:
But now that marv has told me to step it up I have to listen to him...


Should probably kill this guy



You would

you're still doing nothing, but lurking around to reply to that?

##unvote
##vote: Onegu
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February 05 2015 21:30 GMT
#2014
On February 06 2015 06:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 06:19 Onegu wrote:
On February 06 2015 06:17 Holyflare wrote:
On February 06 2015 04:17 Onegu wrote:
But now that marv has told me to step it up I have to listen to him...


Should probably kill this guy



You would

you're still doing nothing, but lurking around to reply to that?

##unvote
##vote: Onegu

for realsies. "I should step it up, marv says so"

2 hours later, HF: " we should kill this guy who has done nothing since"

2 MINUTES later onegu responds with that

boo. boo i say.
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February 05 2015 21:31 GMT
#2015
like he's literally reading the thread not giving a shit about the lynch
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February 05 2015 21:33 GMT
#2020
onegu hasn't said a single thing trying to figure out someone's alignment. for reals.
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February 05 2015 21:37 GMT
#2028
yeah it was pretty awesome tbh.
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February 05 2015 21:38 GMT
#2029
I think we should not vote sl today.

i think we should lynch onegu

i don't mind breshke wagon either
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February 05 2015 21:39 GMT
#2035
because i think he's more likely to be town than the other two

don't like the voters on him

like the other lynches, pretty sure bats is town, i'm town, think hf is town (pushing bresh/onegu respectively)
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February 05 2015 21:40 GMT
#2037
sl feels like what i call the "mafia mislynch of choice"

that's my feeling
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February 05 2015 21:42 GMT
#2043
On February 06 2015 06:41 justanothertownie wrote:
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On February 06 2015 06:40 marvellosity wrote:
sl feels like what i call the "mafia mislynch of choice"

that's my feeling

Yeah? But neither Onegu nor Breshke is on the wagon.

probably only one is mafia... this is where it gets trickier
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February 05 2015 21:44 GMT
#2049
I'm not even decided between Breshke and Onegu right now

still preparing my body for last minute shenannies
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February 05 2015 21:46 GMT
#2051
that's two votes on sl artanis
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February 05 2015 21:48 GMT
#2056
sicklucker put your vote somewhere useful
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February 05 2015 21:52 GMT
#2059
On February 06 2015 06:48 marvellosity wrote:
sicklucker put your vote somewhere useful

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February 05 2015 21:53 GMT
#2061
i'm literally going to vote you off right now sl.
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February 05 2015 21:54 GMT
#2065
it's on the last fucking page you moron
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February 05 2015 21:54 GMT
#2066
i will spite lynch you.

i've done it before.
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February 05 2015 21:57 GMT
#2073
On February 06 2015 06:55 Breshke wrote:
Im really conflicted about onegu. The way he combated my scum read on LS feels kinda townie like he but i don't like that he only brings it up when other people are talking about me and accepted the explanation from rsoultin when i tried to explain the same thing but he just ignored me.

I'm trying to decide between him and SL

can you quote the onegu post(s) you aer referring to?
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February 05 2015 22:02 GMT
#2084
sl you've gotta stop being a fucking dick

you can't say you don't know the votecount and then say you know the top line of the votecount

it's just bullshit
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February 05 2015 22:06 GMT
#2090
On February 06 2015 07:05 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 07:02 marvellosity wrote:
sl you've gotta stop being a fucking dick

you can't say you don't know the votecount and then say you know the top line of the votecount

it's just bullshit


Its not bullshit its the truth? Ill bookmark this for the end of the game when you see my flip
All I knew was that you were starting an onegu wagon. I didnt know how many you got. Id still much rather kill others.

then if it's the truth then you're an even bigger idiot than i had possibly previously imagined.
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February 05 2015 22:06 GMT
#2091
On February 06 2015 07:06 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 06:33 marvellosity wrote:
onegu hasn't said a single thing trying to figure out someone's alignment. for reals.



Not true. Plus I will be around until deadline. Will make a real case just for you.

why haven't you cared a single bit about finding mafia, onegu?
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February 05 2015 22:14 GMT
#2105
I was about to slam into Breshke

but i really didn't expect that "i think we are all town" thing.
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February 05 2015 22:17 GMT
#2108
I really have no idea
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February 05 2015 22:21 GMT
#2115
Damdred, LS, rso, all missing
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February 05 2015 22:28 GMT
#2129
On February 06 2015 07:26 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 07:20 Breshke wrote:
I kind of want to lynch Bats because all he is doing this game is saying other peoples cases are good but just continually saying im mafia. If me onegu and SL are all town it makes sense that he hasn't been pushing my wagon as hard as he could because he doesn't really care which of us is lynched.


Na Jat or someone told me how to read him recently. I think hes town

how's that?
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February 05 2015 22:29 GMT
#2131
I kinda want to lynch Damdred
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February 05 2015 22:30 GMT
#2134
shut up eden
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February 05 2015 22:30 GMT
#2136
Like I have no idea where to go, and Damdred has all these things i feel icky about
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February 05 2015 22:32 GMT
#2139
i don't trust your read.
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February 05 2015 22:32 GMT
#2141
tbh I might just vote Damdred and let town do whatever it wants.

which is bound to end badly.
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February 05 2015 22:33 GMT
#2143
I dunno. maybe i should just stick on onegu
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February 05 2015 22:35 GMT
#2154
On February 06 2015 07:34 Koshi wrote:
Can somebody find the thread from ## mafia?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/432504-mafia
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February 05 2015 22:38 GMT
#2163
On February 06 2015 07:37 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 07:35 Onegu wrote:
First thing that caught my attention was how he didn't remember me as scum as in ## all I did was replace in then tunnel him with a terrible case that marv slammed me. And then in Neat & Tidy he had me as town going into mylo before I stupidly shot him.

Second I do expect more from him, people shouldn't expect much from me. His interactions with Damdred seem to be not reading and not clear as Damdred explains himself and Koshi still asks him repete questions.

Then brerkhe or however his name is spelled gets a quick two votes on him and Koshi quickly goes to pressure him with very little. Notice a pattern he only sheeps his reads once people get pressure.

Then again pressure off of Brekshe and onto JAT, Koshi flips his read on to the current popular choice.

Once more I get pressure And off JAT and onto me. Koshi hasn't had a orginal read this entire game. Hasn't made a orginal push this entire game.

Sheep my sheep



is the bolded even a bad thing?

not necessarily, but it's believable he would think it is
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February 05 2015 22:40 GMT
#2172
Going to vote Damdred

1. stuff at the start of the game
2. over-certainty on LS
3. bitchfit at me and Eden
4. super-convinced case on sl ----> sheep on to Onegu/Breshke or whatever it was.

The excuse was "i learnt that sometimes you have to sheep"

but clearly the cases/pushes around in the thread aren't strong, fleshed out cases which are sheepable. it's totally the wrong time to sheep

- disappeared for an hour

##unvote
##vote: damdred
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February 05 2015 22:42 GMT
#2180
i don't mind an onegu lynch

you guys can do it.
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February 05 2015 22:43 GMT
#2183
the time thing was just an added extra.

all the other stuff stands.
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February 05 2015 22:43 GMT
#2188
17 mins
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February 05 2015 22:44 GMT
#2196
On February 06 2015 07:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 07:40 marvellosity wrote:
Going to vote Damdred

1. stuff at the start of the game
2. over-certainty on LS
3. bitchfit at me and Eden
4. super-convinced case on sl ----> sheep on to Onegu/Breshke or whatever it was.

The excuse was "i learnt that sometimes you have to sheep"

but clearly the cases/pushes around in the thread aren't strong, fleshed out cases which are sheepable. it's totally the wrong time to sheep

- disappeared for an hour

##unvote
##vote: damdred

I am not a fan.

don't care. i think the points against damdred are strongest overall, so i'm sticking there.
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February 05 2015 22:46 GMT
#2210
Palmar, it's just me and you bro
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February 05 2015 22:47 GMT
#2215
On February 06 2015 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 07:46 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar, it's just me and you bro


it's not though :/

it literally is
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February 05 2015 22:48 GMT
#2219
I really think we should lynch Damdred but at the same time i'm not confident enough to shout at people doing other things.

Boo.
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February 05 2015 22:48 GMT
#2224
Like honestly, Damdred has the most

"he should NOT be doing that as town"

moments in the game

he really does
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February 05 2015 22:49 GMT
#2226
On February 06 2015 07:48 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 07:48 marvellosity wrote:
I really think we should lynch Damdred but at the same time i'm not confident enough to shout at people doing other things.

Boo.

stop making me want to yolowagon you

good luck
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February 05 2015 22:50 GMT
#2232
I think Koshi is a shocking lynch in this situation tbh
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February 05 2015 22:50 GMT
#2236
On February 06 2015 07:50 marvellosity wrote:
I think Koshi is a shocking lynch in this situation tbh

I am saying this so I can say "I told you so" if you lynch him and he flips town
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February 05 2015 22:52 GMT
#2244
On February 06 2015 07:50 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 07:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I'm not gonna cry if koshi dies, serves him right for being shit.

But still, I think Damdred has a higher chance of flipping mafia.

He sucked early in the game, his read was strange.
He tried to brush off my push as something irrelevant and change subject
Instead of trying to just move the game forward he got mad

I really feel like this last part isn't true and it's a big part of why I think Damdred should not be the lynch

He spent a lot of time trying to move the game forward by discussing sicklucker and JAT iyam

no he pushed sicklucker because he had to make a decent case on someone or he was getting lynched

he made the case on sicklucker because everyone said how shit his read on LS was, which he gradually inched down from even though LS didn't change his posting at all

defending JAT ez-mode.

it's like defending me when i'm town. so ez.
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February 05 2015 22:52 GMT
#2248
Vote Damdred

or worst case vote Onegu

not the rest
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February 05 2015 22:53 GMT
#2251
On February 06 2015 07:52 Koshi wrote:
So this happens when I don't try hard. Kinda hilarious.

why play if you're not going to try. just makes you a knob
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February 05 2015 22:53 GMT
#2257
Damdred ------> Onegu only

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February 05 2015 22:54 GMT
#2272
told you we were alone Palmar :p

Look how shit Damdred has been around the lynch

he HARDPUSHES SICKLUCKER FOR 24 HOURS

and then says BUT I WILL SHEEP ON RANDOM OTHER GUYS NP
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February 05 2015 22:55 GMT
#2275
well you're wrong on some people Breshke. because they aren't
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February 05 2015 22:55 GMT
#2279
On February 06 2015 07:54 marvellosity wrote:
told you we were alone Palmar :p

Look how shit Damdred has been around the lynch

he HARDPUSHES SICKLUCKER FOR 24 HOURS

and then says BUT I WILL SHEEP ON RANDOM OTHER GUYS NP

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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February 05 2015 22:56 GMT
#2283
...
On February 06 2015 07:54 marvellosity wrote:
told you we were alone Palmar :p

Look how shit Damdred has been around the lynch

he HARDPUSHES SICKLUCKER FOR 24 HOURS

and then says BUT I WILL SHEEP ON RANDOM OTHER GUYS NP

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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February 05 2015 22:57 GMT
#2288
On February 06 2015 07:56 Damdred wrote:
Do you want me out of game that bad Marv? I was following palmars advice he gave me last game then had to work in here now but SL can be lynched and you aren't motivated to get me lynched so lynch sl

Sheeping good cases.

Not random votes on people because people are panicking
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February 05 2015 22:59 GMT
#2302
the votecounts have all been wrong

lynch damdred
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February 05 2015 22:59 GMT
#2304
if me/palmar/hf think the same

it's an ok lynch
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February 05 2015 22:59 GMT
#2307
onegu vote damdred you moron
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February 05 2015 22:59 GMT
#2312
jat you're probably mafia
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February 05 2015 23:00 GMT
#2316
ok i take it back.
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February 05 2015 23:00 GMT
#2317
end of day is frazzling
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February 05 2015 23:01 GMT
#2322
did Damdred not vote on the other wagon?
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February 05 2015 23:01 GMT
#2325
oh god that means he's gonna flip town
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February 05 2015 23:14 GMT
#2337
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February 05 2015 23:18 GMT
#2343
##Vote: Breshke
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February 05 2015 23:23 GMT
#2356
On February 06 2015 08:23 Damdred wrote:
Didn't see the eod thing.

yeah me neither
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February 05 2015 23:23 GMT
#2359
On February 06 2015 08:23 Eden1892 wrote:
We should have killed Koshi tbh.

possibly. or breshke.
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February 05 2015 23:24 GMT
#2364
yeah we just have to treat damdred as confirmed town now.
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February 05 2015 23:25 GMT
#2371
On February 06 2015 08:25 Breshke wrote:
I always thought damdred was town, yeah im a pussy and not confident in my reads but even at the start of the game i said i didnt feel good voting on him.

I also gave reasons as to why i thought SL and Onegu were town.

Why am i mafia for having townreads

because you never did anything to actually push a mafiaread instead?
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February 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#2374
like 2 sentences on bats was it? that was your entire scumreads
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February 05 2015 23:32 GMT
#2398
On February 06 2015 08:31 sicklucker wrote:
Like i dont actually know why I was mod killed? Anyone know?

you posted two minutse after host spammed 10 lines of DO NOT POST
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February 05 2015 23:34 GMT
#2404
On February 06 2015 08:33 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
On February 06 2015 08:31 sicklucker wrote:
Like i dont actually know why I was mod killed? Anyone know?


for posting after a second and 3rd warning about not posting after deadline


I posted after by mistake. Literally everyone was posting

not after the massive set of warnings
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February 05 2015 23:34 GMT
#2406
sl is gonna be mafia isn't he
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February 05 2015 23:36 GMT
#2418
unbeatable stats from LS
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February 05 2015 23:37 GMT
#2426
yeah sorry damdred. lol
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February 05 2015 23:38 GMT
#2427
then again, if sl is mafia i have no idea who else is mafia

because breshke didn't vote onegu or damdred :/
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February 05 2015 23:40 GMT
#2438
yeah sl being town actually made more sense there :/
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February 05 2015 23:41 GMT
#2442
well we were all awful

isn't that nice.
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February 05 2015 23:42 GMT
#2456
On February 06 2015 08:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 08:41 Breshke wrote:
Im a chief mate, I wont be shooting because it puts us in Mylo


hahahaha what?


he's scum vigi
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February 05 2015 23:46 GMT
#2468
that's true actually

hot damn
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February 05 2015 23:48 GMT
#2473
you saw nothing, eden

and the fact you doubt me makes you pretty terrible
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February 05 2015 23:50 GMT
#2479
i'm gonna take a long break and come back at this fresh at some point
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February 05 2015 23:55 GMT
#2491
On February 06 2015 08:53 Holyflare wrote:
think you should shoot rso tbh instead of saving it, we'd be in a much better position!

people that instantly believe = suspicious

i'd be up for this even though objectively it's a terrible play

lol
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February 05 2015 23:58 GMT
#2500
On February 06 2015 08:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 08:53 Holyflare wrote:
think you should shoot rso tbh instead of saving it, we'd be in a much better position!

people that instantly believe = suspicious


lol saying he's not the lynch is not the same as saying I believe him. Don't see what scum gains from claiming this early, though.

the later he claims, the less believable it gets
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February 06 2015 00:00 GMT
#2502
god the only game i played well in recently was the one i had to replace out of.

sucks so hard :<
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February 06 2015 00:02 GMT
#2508
-.-
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February 06 2015 00:05 GMT
#2516
On February 06 2015 09:04 Eden1892 wrote:
i think rso is a better lynch

but i really don't like marv's "omg u guys im sooooooo bad" spiel rn. step the fuck up son

oh just fuck right off.
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February 06 2015 00:13 GMT
#2530
if rso is mafia, eden, you can apologise to me for defending her all day whenever i/hf were suspicious of her.

just sayin like
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February 06 2015 00:14 GMT
#2533
i defended breshke and sl too. before the lynch.
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February 06 2015 00:15 GMT
#2534
but i'll kiss your ring xx
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February 06 2015 10:29 GMT
#2740
i can't really be bothered to play anymore, so maybe you should shoot me
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February 06 2015 10:30 GMT
#2742
HF could actually be mafia, because he is not calling me 100% town when he should know I am.
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February 06 2015 10:31 GMT
#2744
no.
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February 06 2015 10:33 GMT
#2747
nope.
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February 06 2015 10:33 GMT
#2749
you used to actually do things, koshi.

it's really sad.
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February 06 2015 10:33 GMT
#2750
like HF should not have a SHRED of doubt about my alignment
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 10:36 GMT
#2755
On February 06 2015 19:35 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 19:33 marvellosity wrote:
you used to actually do things, koshi.

it's really sad.

1 day. 1 day.
Why do I get blamed for not doing something 1 day?

you've been doing it more and more. you used to just play hard, all the time.

now i often see this type of excuse that you're not going to do much.

why don't you just... do things all the time?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 10:39 GMT
#2762
I really really think Palmar is town.

Eden is still very town.

I think bats is town but I'm not so sure.

I thought HF was town but his non-100% read on me makes him look much worse.

Breshke? fuck if I know. He really should have just shut the fuck up and shot mafia tonight, shouldn't he?

rsoultin - could easily be mafia

Koshi - ????

jat - maybe mafia.

anyone else i guess i think is townie, LS is left? he can be anything tbh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 10:41 GMT
#2764
that's true. so who am i left with?

jat/rsoultin/HF/Koshi/LS?

maybe that's descending order of likelihood
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 10:41 GMT
#2767
yeah i know. it's kinda hilarious as well as pretty tragic
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 10:42 GMT
#2769
LS is just there because everyone else should be town i think.

Koshi is there because i actually think he's town but he could just be fooling me.

The rest are there because I think they can be mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 10:43 GMT
#2773
I think Eden is going to throw this game for town.

I feel it in my bones.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 10:45 GMT
#2777
Mafia are kinda in a tricky spot with who to shoot. I think Eden dying would be quite good for town. If I die then my thoughts are legitimised. If any of the other high profile players die, then that removes them from the suspect pool.

So what are they going to do?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 10:51 GMT
#2782
yeah. that's probably it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 10:56 GMT
#2787
lol
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marvellosity
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February 06 2015 11:20 GMT
#2795
maybe. still not getting scum off it though :x
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 11:28 GMT
#2799
it's not "embarrassing" and you just look like a total cock for saying it is.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 11:31 GMT
#2802
On February 06 2015 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
yeh mafia is undeniably palmar or jat because they are just the type of people to qq in their scum qt/pms about modkilling

this is actually pretty awful, Palmar is straight up about this sort of thing regardless of his alignment. so yea
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 11:32 GMT
#2803
On February 06 2015 20:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 20:28 marvellosity wrote:
it's not "embarrassing" and you just look like a total cock for saying it is.

I don't care. You have no reason to call me scum and you know it. I expect Eden to be an idiot to some extent but not you.

no reason to call you town particularly, which is absolutely a reason to call you mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 11:34 GMT
#2807
no, "paranoid" isn't a read. if i don't have a reason to call you town, there's a good chance you're mafia. that's it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 11:35 GMT
#2808
you can not be #1 on the list if it makes you feel better.

somewhere in top 3 instead.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 11:35 GMT
#2810
yeah it really is an awful list
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 11:36 GMT
#2812
who are 3 mafia jat?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 11:40 GMT
#2819
pretty tempting to hedge all bets and lynch rsoultin tomorrow

because if we're honest, if rsoultin is town, then the game is 100% over anyway
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 11:52 GMT
#2823
2nd strongest bro
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 11:54 GMT
#2827
[image loading]
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 12:24 GMT
#2829
you probably shouldn't be upset that people are scumreading you for the same reasons then, and you don't have a marv vouching strongly for you like Plam does.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 12:30 GMT
#2832
it probably would, but i don't know how to explain it in a way that anyone else will understand than "tone" or timing and how he's said things. I just... ugh. Just every post I read as town-Palmar, and literally nothing has pinged me.

If i'm wrong i'm going to feel wonderfully stupid, i just can't see it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 12:38 GMT
#2833
Palmar as town often happily afks through lynches, especially on day 1. It can actually be kinda annoying.

Here there were multiple townies up for the block, and Palmar came back to the thread and took the time to do and push things, and in a way that didn't look at all bad. Just seems so improbable for him to do it like he did as mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 13:08 GMT
#2844
On February 06 2015 21:45 Koshi wrote:
Well that is not convincing at all.

it should be.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 13:16 GMT
#2846
3 mafia with a sentence of reasoning, rsoultin?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 13:17 GMT
#2847
On February 06 2015 22:13 rsoultin wrote:
Dude, bresh, just shoot me so town can get its head out of its collective ass and find scum.

This is ridiculous. I should be scumread for inactivity and not knowing wth is going on, but instead it's
- emoticons
- she's not happy enough (3 town flips and the vets all playing like trash, what?)
- if she's not scum we've already lost the game

Well, gg.

Seriously, breshke, I've already been mislynched once cause vets are too arrogant to reconsider their reads. Shoot me so this game can move forward.

marv, what are you smoking to think that koshi is town? I just got him mislynched a couple games ago, and he was actually trying to still find scum, not doing this hissy fit thing he's doing this game.

meh, work

also i have no idea what this has to do with anything at all.

terrible appeal to emotion
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 13:20 GMT
#2849
great rsoultin, the whole nine words you gave us between your 5 scummiest players sure are bloody illuminating.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 13:25 GMT
#2852
don't really care for your excuses, if you're calling Koshi obv-mafia then by the same criteria you are even more obviously mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 14:06 GMT
#2876
tbh it is quite concerning that bats has had zero to say about his main/only scumread's vigi claim.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 14:10 GMT
#2877
towntells, koshi, not townreads or whatever
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 14:14 GMT
#2880
Every time rsoultin is here she does this much to push the thread forwards in any meaningful way:

...


.
..



....
..


....
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 14:18 GMT
#2884
lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 14:31 GMT
#2886
use your intelligence
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 14:39 GMT
#2890
that doesn't make much sense, because my strong townreads are practically always right, so the fact one would be wrong doesn't stop my very high hitrate with them
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 15:03 GMT
#2900
don't like that Koshi rsoultin read about making stuff up tbh. that's not very good.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 15:08 GMT
#2902
like koshi should know that townies don't double check things and misremember things all the time. such a silly read.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 15:20 GMT
#2905
how as either alignment??

why is it "impossible" for town but very possible for mafia? it's just nonsense
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 15:22 GMT
#2906
that was rhetorical btw
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 15:28 GMT
#2909
no that doesnt make sense. what you're saying is "no person can forget this"

you have given no reason at all why a townie can't make that mistake but a mafia will. no reason at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 15:29 GMT
#2912
X
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 15:54 GMT
#2919
kill pool is not narrowed to that, you donkey
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 15:54 GMT
#2921
calling my posts donkey town when you just splurge shit is pretty rich eden
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 15:56 GMT
#2925
please mafia

kill eden

please
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 16:04 GMT
#2933
On February 07 2015 01:01 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 00:58 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 07 2015 00:56 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 07 2015 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 07 2015 00:47 Eden1892 wrote:
JAT still isn't doing anything interesting, you could shoot him too.

I still think rsoultin is town and I'm honestly getting kinda annoyed at people (I only specifically remember marv here but I don't think it's just him) who are needling her without trying to actually make a case/push for her being mafia. Palmar otoh I liked for his post on the subject, it seemed a lot fairer

Still like LS, ride or die on Breshke true claiming and Holyflare mindmeld

How can you seriously believe this? If someone is a donkey in this game then it is you. You are annoyed with the people needling rsoultin? Well, have a look at what HF did all game. And especially have a close look at the evolution of his read on her from "dead certain" to "not even mentioning" at lynch time to dead certain again.
You are playing EXACTLY like you were in heavyweight. Trusting certain people for stupid reasons and spamming so much that you apparently don't even remember what happened in this game.

How is it stupid to trust the guy I've been mindmelding with all game? Well over 90% of the time that guy is gonna be town. This is the exact opposite of my play in World Heavyweight, I didn't trust anybody that game.

Yes, you did. You townread me for the exact same reason you are townreading HF here and it is a fucking bad reason. HF is a better scumplayer than I am.
Seriously. Look at how he treated rsoultin.

It isn't a bad reason at all. I'll get burned from time to time doing that, but in my experience since Heavyweight I got burned more regularly by not trusting my strong townreads and getting paranoid about them.

Why don't any of you clowns make a case against HF instead of just calling me bad for thinking he's town? How hard is that to do?

I explicitly said why HF was suspicious.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 16:15 GMT
#2941
/afk until deadline
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 16:17 GMT
#2943
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 16:23 GMT
#2946
On February 07 2015 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi makes up reason to scum read someone for forgetting a name or player but called onegu absolutely scum because he pushed koshi for forgetting - terrible posts around this subject. He tried to push eden who is the towniest mother fucker in this game.

Jat is flinging shit everywhere and says my read on rsoul is damning but provides no context and is even scum reading rsoul

Rsoul qq and sounds like arse hole

misrepresentation
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 16:24 GMT
#2948
it's irrelevant that he's scumreading rsoul. you add that like it strengthens your point but it's 100% irrelevant.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 16:25 GMT
#2950
in fact the fact he's scumreading rsoul strengthens his point, not yours.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 16:25 GMT
#2951
What % town am I, Holyflare?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 16:26 GMT
#2953
his rsoul read came subsequently, pretty obviously, and yours didn't

so.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 16:27 GMT
#2955
so why was i on some ridiculous PoE list?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 16:28 GMT
#2956
On February 07 2015 01:13 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
I thought HF was town but his non-100% read on me makes him look much worse.

That's it marv? That's why you think HF is mafia? Cause he doesn't absolutely have you as town? This is silly. JAT's reasons were a lot better.

I ask because if it's anything else then I don't have time to find it before work, I went backward from the most recent post in filter. You more recently had him as your 3rd best suspect though so why are you passing it off like you've already made a case on HF?

On February 07 2015 01:26 Holyflare wrote:
Like probably 100?


now what Eden?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 16:31 GMT
#2958
you hesitated despite the fact I am 100% town? and YOU KNOW I MUST BE TOWN without a doubt

ok.

whatever
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 16:32 GMT
#2959
that's some serious bullshittery.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 16:36 GMT
#2962
I was around all through deadline. I was pushing shit left and right.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 16:39 GMT
#2964
That's such a non-point because I clearly cared as much or more than anyone else what the lynch was in the end, and that's what you would be remembering on Night 1! I don't accept that you forget this, or you don't realise that I'm town for all the normal stuff without having to check my filter.

Boo I say. Boo.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 16:44 GMT
#2967
And I reserve the right to disbelieve you, given I'm totally incapable of that #passion around deadline and you know i never play like i had ALL DAY as mafia.

who should we lynch tomorrow?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 16:48 GMT
#2970
rsoultin gets left alone?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 16:55 GMT
#2975
didn't actually read those posts of his, had to go back find them.

yeah pretty bad tbh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 17:37 GMT
#2980
welcome to my world
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 17:40 GMT
#2984
rsoultin you have a 10 page filter but somehow you've pushed literally nothing in those pages
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 17:41 GMT
#2985
btw the amount of bussing going on N1 is probably pretty hilarious
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 17:44 GMT
#2989
how is it not true?

what have you pushed the entire game?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 18:00 GMT
#2993
On February 07 2015 02:46 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 02:44 marvellosity wrote:
how is it not true?

what have you pushed the entire game?


read my filter. or dont. i dont really care right now

or just answer the question. tell me in your own words what you think you've pushed this game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 21:27 GMT
#3027
anything i need to read before deadline? i'm kinda blobbing in front of tv after fish and chips and might not get to reading the thread by then
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 21:29 GMT
#3028
auto-lynching rsoultin for saying "only reason to read town is because of his claim"

what a bitch. not reading the thread much?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 21:29 GMT
#3029
* to read marv town
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 21:29 GMT
#3031
Die.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 21:31 GMT
#3034
it was wrong, it wasn't bad. there's a difference.

it also clearly wasn't scummy because we both cared about the lynch, and the only alternatives at the time were townies.

you are awful or mafia. which is it?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 21:33 GMT
#3037
i'm neither

i was wrong

your question is bad, so you're again perpetuating how awful you are

you die. very soon.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 21:34 GMT
#3038
like you're aware enough of the push i made EOD.

so you should know the circumstances of who flipped and know it wasn't scummy how i pushed damdred at the lynch

so why are you trying to paint it like it is? tell me.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 21:35 GMT
#3042
On February 07 2015 06:34 marvellosity wrote:
like you're aware enough of the push i made EOD.

so you should know the circumstances of who flipped and know it wasn't scummy how i pushed damdred at the lynch

so why are you trying to paint it like it is? tell me.

answer this
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marvellosity
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February 06 2015 21:39 GMT
#3044
answer me
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marvellosity
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February 06 2015 21:42 GMT
#3046
because there is no answer.

my push on damdred was insanely townie because it wasn't deflecting off any mafia wagon and it showed i gave massive shits about who we lynched when i didn't need to show any shits at all if i'm mafia.

unlike some people i know who gave no shits at the lynch at all
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marvellosity
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February 06 2015 21:43 GMT
#3050
yes it was and i just explained why

can you not read?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 21:47 GMT
#3055
On February 07 2015 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 06:43 marvellosity wrote:
yes it was and i just explained why

can you not read?


can you not?

sorry marv but your words aren't gold; I don't agree with you. I don't remember anything that looked like you were very invested in where that lynch was going at all.

that just means you haven't read anything around the lynch.

you are insanely bad or mafia. i'm going for mafia because i don't think you're insanely bad.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 21:50 GMT
#3059
On February 07 2015 06:48 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 06:29 marvellosity wrote:
auto-lynching rsoultin for saying "only reason to read town is because of his claim"

what a bitch. not reading the thread much?

No. We kill Koshi first. He should have died d1 if I hadn't been a dumbass at EOD. If you set aside your tendency to see red whenever someone isn't calling you 100% town then I know you'll see that for how shaky rsoultin's filter is, Koshi's is worse. At least she can point to some pushes on sicklucker at different points. Koshi can't point to anything.

And I say this with her still firmly in my POE lynch pool, don't get me wrong. But Koshi has to go first. We don't have the luxury of chasing lynches that aren't the highest-% play.

ok.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 21:50 GMT
#3061
you can lead town now your reads are at least kinda close to mine eden
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 21:51 GMT
#3063
I never have any idea what LS is going on about

it's actually quite glorious
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 21:52 GMT
#3066
LS you are quite the pleasure to play with, in a very weird way
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:04 GMT
#3071
she has to paint it like she believes she pushes them hard elsewise she just gets lynched.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:04 GMT
#3072
of course any mafia oversells what they have done in their filter.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:06 GMT
#3073
Eden: have you checked out how she behaved when she was under strong suspicion or whatever in the game she got lynched as town?

i think that's a task that should be done
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:08 GMT
#3075
sooooo.....

did she bang on about being demoralised and never caught up and tell the thread 100x that she has work and woe is me?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:08 GMT
#3076
oh HF. I thought you were Eden. well you know what i'm getting at.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:18 GMT
#3085
the vigi thing is really weird.

mainly because i think having 2-shot vigis in a 13 player mini is fucking insane.

i'm just ignoring it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:18 GMT
#3086
Don't think I'm lynching LS before we've won/lost this game, pretty much
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:21 GMT
#3091
i think 1 and probably 2 mafia are playing really well this game

or at least well enough to make it very difficult for me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:22 GMT
#3093
cocaine is a boring drug
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:24 GMT
#3096
like one of the primary reasons rso looks quite so bad to me is that i can't envision 3 mafia if she isn't
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:25 GMT
#3098
well you are a mega-busser hf
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:25 GMT
#3100
LOL

#britjoke
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:27 GMT
#3104
in that case you're due some bussing

#unbeatablelogic
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:27 GMT
#3106
well you're now confirmed mafia to Koshi, HF. no townie could make that mistake
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:31 GMT
#3109
On February 07 2015 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 07:26 rsoultin wrote:
would help if hf linked the game I was actually lynched in ^^

hint: it's not in the database yet

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475036-student-mafia-v


it's still the same though 28 pages of actual solving in a thread that's smaller than this, completely different!

29 pages in a 128 page thread, vs 11 whiny pages in 150 pages.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:32 GMT
#3110
holy shit that's active.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 22:32 GMT
#3112
you'd think it would be easy to replicate, but he never does.

so... yeah
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:35 GMT
#3116
ah ok.

i retract my massive hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmms
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:37 GMT
#3117
so eden's gonna die and i'm gonna sheep him on koshi. that seems to be how it's going to go.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:39 GMT
#3119
tbh 2/3 would seem to be the average difference between someone's town and mafia game if i had to take a stab
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:39 GMT
#3120
like i reckon i'd have about 14 pages of filter as mafia this game
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:40 GMT
#3123
On February 07 2015 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
look you're looking at page numbers and i'm looking at content and there's multiple bits of content thrown out everywhere in her town game and like no real content here and now she's just complaining when all someone asked her to do was asked who she's pushed today??

don't buy it at all

yeah there is this.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 22:41 GMT
#3124
On February 07 2015 07:40 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 07:32 marvellosity wrote:
you'd think it would be easy to replicate, but he never does.

so... yeah

sigh

I always find myself asking "Is this the game?" in these situations

to be fair that's not an unfair thought.

i don't think it's impossible bats is mafia at all. i just don't think he is
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:42 GMT
#3127
like I was really really active in Imperial, and going by my previous games alone that was totally out of character and it shouldn't have happened. but I did, for that game, for whatever reason
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 22:43 GMT
#3129
don't think so.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 22:46 GMT
#3132
i'd lynch HF over jat as it stands

and that could be totally wrong but it's what i think

i'm not sure how much i buy that HF didn't "feel" this game and is feeling low on effort. especially after a mafia game. i think it's pretty plausible he did the megatroll thing as a way to get through day 1, because he'd be caught otherwise.

dno though really
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 22:46 GMT
#3134
also can't get over him like "forgetting" my play or whatever
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:48 GMT
#3136
On February 07 2015 07:47 rsoultin wrote:
I really should just ignore y'all.

The last time I was busy in a town game I had a 7-page filter for two days, and was absolute shit day 1. Palmar was trying to get me shot overnight for it.

Protoss

I'm not playing well right now, I get it. Let me get caught up before burying me, that's all I ask -_-

dw, Eden decreed we shall kill koshi and that'll do for me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:50 GMT
#3142
yeah jat could definitely still be mafia. Primarily for that Onegu thing you point out and the weird thing with Palmar. I really feel that jat, on his own two feet, should be able to get more of a read on Palmar than he has. Town or mafia, something.

I think palmar has actually played the game enough for jat not to have him in this null middleground where he has nothing to push him one way or another

arg
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:51 GMT
#3144
LS you aren't reading at all are you
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:55 GMT
#3152
no, jat did shenannies in that game he was mafia and i was town

i remember him following my vote around -.-
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 22:56 GMT
#3155
on the other hand, HF, I do agree that I really would expect to jat to go over to Onegu when both you and me are on him and he's agreed you made a good point on Onegu. I'd much more expect it from town jat. Other than sticking on sicklucker. I really don't like that. meh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 22:58 GMT
#3156
tldr: fuck only knows
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 23:02 GMT
#3161
very good.

very, very good.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 23:02 GMT
#3164
told you Palmar was town.

just sayin.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:04 GMT
#3169
first thing to note: Koshi was really gung-ho about wanting to lynch jat when jat had a bunch of votes.

hmmm.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 23:08 GMT
#3175
there's a bunch of other quotes where he's saying we should lynch him and why did people get off his wagon though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 23:09 GMT
#3178
bah, we only have one mislynch still
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:13 GMT
#3184
On February 06 2015 13:36 rsoultin wrote:
Leaning town
Marv - solid town before, really indecisive tho
Breshke - claim, light townread earlier

On February 07 2015 05:39 rsoultin wrote:
only reason to read marv town imo is his claim


##Vote: rsoultin
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 23:14 GMT
#3187
On February 07 2015 08:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 13:36 rsoultin wrote:
Leaning town
Marv - solid town before, really indecisive tho
Breshke - claim, light townread earlier

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 05:39 rsoultin wrote:
only reason to read marv town imo is his claim


##Vote: rsoultin

LightningStrike

see above
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:15 GMT
#3190
Solid town -> no reason to read him town

DOES NOT COMPUTE
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 06 2015 23:17 GMT
#3193
you literally cannot think i am solid town at one stage

and then say there is no reason to call me town at another

you can

not

say

this
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:17 GMT
#3195
Lightning, did you not READ what i just showed you on rsoultin?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:18 GMT
#3199
like in her reason for reading me town she doesn't even mention my claim

just that i was solid town (and indecisive)

and then later there's no reason to call me town other than my claim?

no

no

no

no

no
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:19 GMT
#3202
On February 07 2015 08:18 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 13:36 rsoultin wrote:
Leaning town
Marv - solid town before, really indecisive tho
Breshke - claim, light townread earlier

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 05:39 rsoultin wrote:
only reason to read marv town imo is his claim




If you think that's not saying the same thing, you're duller than I thought. But go ahead and vote for me; I'm still reading.

no it clearly isn't

it really clearly isn't

if you thought it was only my claim that made me town, you would have said so in the first place.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:20 GMT
#3203
you don't say solidly town if it's just the claim

you just don't
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:20 GMT
#3205
it's ok Breshke, no-one is serious
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:21 GMT
#3206
*solid* town is not just the claim. it just isn't.

rsoultin is lying. flat out lying.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:23 GMT
#3210
and yet you explicitly mentioned the claim for Breshke.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:23 GMT
#3211
well whatever, eden will probably save you and lynch someone else
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:27 GMT
#3214
##unvote

i don't want to explain right now, but i want to do some research on something.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:29 GMT
#3216
won't research it tonight. i'll get to it tomorrow. involves some digging.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:41 GMT
#3228
ok the thing I want to research is how Koshi treats his scumbuddies.

Koshi called rsoultin "100% town" at some point early, although he explained to me that was in terms of d1 when I prodded him about it. later he became suspicious of rsoultin.

on the surface this actually points to a town rsoultin.

the thing i want to research is whether koshi is happy giving his partners confident townreads at some stage.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:45 GMT
#3233
it would literally be mylo if breshke just shut up and shot a townie.

breshke is town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:47 GMT
#3237
the sl modkill is so brutal for town

it really is
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:52 GMT
#3248
On February 07 2015 08:51 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 08:47 marvellosity wrote:
the sl modkill is so brutal for town

it really is


I don't think we are in that abd a position though. Technically we still have two town based kills before we go into lylo. And lylo will have to have 2/3 of me you and eden in it.

I forgot you have two shots.

yeah good call.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2015 23:52 GMT
#3249
super tempting just to lynch one of jat/hf and have breshke shoot the other
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2015 00:07 GMT
#3273
why is Breshke alive? did they gamble on him shooting town? he's right, he has an extra town-based kill and it doesn't lose us a lynch. it's fucking insane.

this isn't me pushing suspicion on breshke, i just don't get it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2015 00:10 GMT
#3279
On February 07 2015 09:09 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 09:07 marvellosity wrote:
why is Breshke alive? did they gamble on him shooting town? he's right, he has an extra town-based kill and it doesn't lose us a lynch. it's fucking insane.

this isn't me pushing suspicion on breshke, i just don't get it


I honestly think they think there is another blue.
Palamr is one of the few people who havnt claimed vt

that doesn't explain why they didn't shoot the guy who can shoot again.

it's just inconceivably bad play on mafia's part

why would mafia try to look for another blue when they literally have a blue in front of them??
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2015 00:10 GMT
#3280
like you don't randomly bluehunt when there's a claimed vigilante with 2 shots.

it's so wtf
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2015 00:15 GMT
#3287
On February 07 2015 09:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 09:10 marvellosity wrote:
like you don't randomly bluehunt when there's a claimed vigilante with 2 shots.

it's so wtf


not without rbing the vig, anyway. but then, if bresh is mafia, why shoot koshi? it doesn't make sense from any direction

yeah like i said i'm not pushing on breshke or anything

i'm just randomly musing in the thread when there's no resolution to my thoughts because it makes zero sense.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2015 00:20 GMT
#3289
I just PMed myself.

rofl
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 00:20 GMT
#3290
on purpose i might add
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 00:22 GMT
#3292
it's for endgame.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 00:23 GMT
#3296
On February 07 2015 09:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 09:15 marvellosity wrote:
On February 07 2015 09:13 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2015 09:10 marvellosity wrote:
like you don't randomly bluehunt when there's a claimed vigilante with 2 shots.

it's so wtf


not without rbing the vig, anyway. but then, if bresh is mafia, why shoot koshi? it doesn't make sense from any direction

yeah like i said i'm not pushing on breshke or anything

i'm just randomly musing in the thread when there's no resolution to my thoughts because it makes zero sense.


I beat you to it and now you're saying the same thing rofl


Medic dodge/maybe have a vig on their side too that hit a save/maybe they have framer and think there's a cop

oh yeah. this is all kinda plausible. especially as Palmar is a medic dodge shot really.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 00:25 GMT
#3299
oh yeah, like I mean obviously I don't want any of this to go anywhere

literally everything i'm saying is a massive segue and i'm not expecting it to have any effect on who we're lynching or whatever.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 00:26 GMT
#3303
On February 07 2015 09:25 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 09:24 Holyflare wrote:
You're saying we'd be mylo if he shut up but breshke was super suspicious day 1 and a likely lynch

Makes no sense for town to claim at night with rbers tbh

It made a ton of sense if you remember his rationale when he claimed. He said he didn't see himself ever shooting, so he was basically a named VT, so he claimed.

The idea to shoot was developed well after he claimed, default assumption was don't shoot because of extra day (WHICH WAS MAFIA KOSHI'S IDEA TOO LOL)

then we both said it was a terrible play to shoot but he should shoot anyway

i should be conf town to you for that alone :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 00:27 GMT
#3305
On February 07 2015 09:26 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 09:24 Holyflare wrote:
You're saying we'd be mylo if he shut up but breshke was super suspicious day 1 and a likely lynch

Makes no sense for town to claim at night with rbers tbh


Do mafia shoot mafia? This is a legit question; do you have an instance where scum has made that play, because it seems entirely counterintuitive to me when mafia can just shoot two towns?

Vivax has done it, yes
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 00:28 GMT
#3309
maybe I should just sheep LS
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 07 2015 00:29 GMT
#3311
On February 07 2015 09:28 rsoultin wrote:
You did mention a Vivax play but I had no clue what y'all were talking about, lol. You guys keep forgetting not all of us have played that long.

well, he shot his scumbuddy. what else do you want me to say :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 00:29 GMT
#3312
if my memory serves, it was in TL Mafia LX
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 00:39 GMT
#3324
On February 07 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 09:31 Holyflare wrote:
you really are a glutton for punishment aren't you


i'm pretty sure i'm a closet sub/borderline masochist?

better to be an out in the open sub, trust me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 11:40 GMT
#3425
On February 07 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote:
I'm waffling on bats. He seems to have been super reluctant (except for saying jat is a justified lynch near EoD) to vote/push/pressure jat all game. I also see jat defending bats a lot. Which makes me think that if jat is scum, bats may either be his partner, or just pocketed town. Some of bats' later posting makes me think the latter, because all of his "this is also a good lynch" stuff from EoD checks out. His read on you, bresh, not so much though I think that may just be me on he not seeing you as terribly scummy Day 1.

Bats, can you tell me why breshke being "passive" caused you to switch to him from SL? I know that you mentioned that SL responded well to your vote on him, but what was the tipping point?

Brilliant! if Jat is mafia, bats is town or mafia.

That's added to my understanding of this game tremendously.
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 11:45 GMT
#3426
On February 07 2015 12:55 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 12:53 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2015 12:47 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 07 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, so forgive me for going back into WIFOM land, but I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around a scum koshi and a scum jat pushing hard for breshke not to shoot...but no rb and no kill. That just makes no sense to me -_-

...if they have no rb then they would very obviously want us not to shoot. Lol

It would be stranger if they were mafia and pushing for Breshke to shoot with no rb. As it is this makes perfect sense. They don't want us shooting so they argue for us not to shoot because that's the only way we don't shoot


Okay, but even assuming they have no RB...which a 2-shot vig without an RB is kinda lolworthy...why no kill either?


There's a possibility that JAT is town i guess and they thought if i wasn't going to no shoot i would shoot him. Also it could be so we would do this type of speculation. Honestly i came close to not shooting but marv some post from marv made me not want to be a punk about it

good boy
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February 07 2015 11:47 GMT
#3427
On February 07 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:
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On February 07 2015 13:01 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2015 12:55 Breshke wrote:
On February 07 2015 12:53 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2015 12:47 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 07 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, so forgive me for going back into WIFOM land, but I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around a scum koshi and a scum jat pushing hard for breshke not to shoot...but no rb and no kill. That just makes no sense to me -_-

...if they have no rb then they would very obviously want us not to shoot. Lol

It would be stranger if they were mafia and pushing for Breshke to shoot with no rb. As it is this makes perfect sense. They don't want us shooting so they argue for us not to shoot because that's the only way we don't shoot


Okay, but even assuming they have no RB...which a 2-shot vig without an RB is kinda lolworthy...why no kill either?


There's a possibility that JAT is town i guess and they thought if i wasn't going to no shoot i would shoot him. Also it could be so we would do this type of speculation. Honestly i came close to not shooting but marv some post from marv made me not want to be a punk about it


Yeah, I guess it's pointless to speculate, especially if that's my only reason for hesitating on JAT.

Really do want to hear why bats is pushing HF though.

Because this donkey town gave him the keys to be perpetually townread by making decisive pushes on people even if they don't make sense

I know the real reason Palmar was shot now.

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On January 06 2015 19:48 Palmar wrote:
Tbh, looking at ritoky's post, I could 100% lynch superbia because the guy doing his own thing is almost always mafia.


This guy would have buried batsnacks tomorrow. 100%.

#TrustInPalmar

batsnacks always, ALWAYS, *always* does his own thing as town.
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 11:48 GMT
#3428
I'm going to vote jat.

Reasons: because.

##Vote: jat

need to check into that koshi stuff still but i cba till some point later
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 16:04 GMT
#3477
##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare


let's make it interesting

NB: all this does is reflect my vast uncertainty. Will probably make an informed decision when I get round to reading Koshi meta and deciding about rsoultin.
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 16:04 GMT
#3478
I kinda agree with jat, i don't think a jat/bats team makes that much sense to me. dunno, we got over a day, so a lot of time to muse on it
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 16:07 GMT
#3481
jat's not the sort of player to repeatedly hard-clear his team-mate
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 16:08 GMT
#3483
On February 08 2015 00:16 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2015 00:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 08 2015 00:12 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2015 00:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 08 2015 00:01 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2015 22:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 07 2015 12:45 rsoultin wrote:
^ Like, I have no good reason to believe jat is town, and he should be the lynch, but I keep coming back to that and going meh.

I have a reason to not lynch jat. But let's lynch him anyways. Seems legit.
On February 07 2015 12:47 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 07 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, so forgive me for going back into WIFOM land, but I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around a scum koshi and a scum jat pushing hard for breshke not to shoot...but no rb and no kill. That just makes no sense to me -_-

...if they have no rb then they would very obviously want us not to shoot. Lol

It would be stranger if they were mafia and pushing for Breshke to shoot with no rb. As it is this makes perfect sense. They don't want us shooting so they argue for us not to shoot because that's the only way we don't shoot

If I was mafia with Koshi and we had no rb then we would kill Breshke. What kind of nonsense is this?


Interesting how you take my post that actually says I have no good reason to believe you're town and then construe it as I have a good reason not to lynch you.
You think it's any more likely for a Koshi/HF team to leave Bresh alive than you and Koshi? It makes no sense for any player in this game to do that!

"I keep coming back to that" good reason to townread me.
Yes, it is more likely for a Koshi/HF team to do this since it was pretty likely that Breshke would shoot me or Koshi. And yes, it doesn't make much sense for anyone to do this but the only possible explanation I see is that they were gambling on Breshke shooting me.


Give me a good reason to townread you, then. What have you really done all game? I mean, seriously? Cause this NK speculation stuff makes 0 sense for anyone as mafia. I can use that lovely WIFOM to try to clear myself, too. Like, why in the world as mafia would I keep insisting Breshke shoot either me or my scum partner, if we're not going to RB or kill him?

This is nonsense. No mafia team is going to sit around with their thumb up their ass and go 'well, hehe, there's a 50/50 chance breshke shoots town so let's roll the dice and hope he kills jat'. Such a dumb argument.

I love how you just keep attacking me for nonsense but completely ignore the huge case on HF.


You've already responded to my thoughts on your huge "case". Nice try.

All you're even saying is that I was his scumread and he didn't push me at EoD when there were what? Three, four other wagons? That case is so flimsy it's hilarious. Good job making it look huge with all the quotes, though.

this is the worst post in the thread by far

gj
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 16:10 GMT
#3485
On February 08 2015 01:09 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2015 01:07 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 08 2015 01:05 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2015 00:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 08 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2015 00:33 justanothertownie wrote:
This is literally the next post in my filter. No way you don't see this when you post those quotes.
On February 06 2015 07:57 justanothertownie wrote:
SL is here but doesn't care in the slightest about who gets lynched as long as it isn't him.

You can also have a look at damdreds case on him.


Sure, I saw that, but I also see Marv (I believe) making the exact same argument for Damdred about pushing SL then not caring where the lynch goes. You don't even mention Onegu again. That says why you voted SL, but not why you had such better reasons to.

And that case Damdred made on him was made the night before. I should know; it's why I went through SL's town games and chose to push SL myself.

What is the bolded even supposed to say? Ridiculous.
So what if marv made that argument about damdred? I didn't think damdred was scum and I also said that multiple times. And wtf does it matter when damdred made his case?


So here's what I just don't get. And maybe I'm just dumb or something, but where in all that rigamarole were you so much more certain that SL was scum than Onegu, when it's clear you thought Damdred was town and voting Onegu would keep Damdred from being lynched?

If I have a townread up for lynch I'm going to try to make sure he doesn't die, especially when I have no reason to townread the other two wagons. In fact, that is almost always my play on Day 1 because I rarely have a strong scumread, and even when I do people usually don't listen to me.

I told my townreads on the damdred wagon that I don't think he is a good lynch. I pushed his counterwagon SL and voted him. What is your fucking point?


I think you see my point just fine given your answer.

What in marv/palmar/hf's posting ever gave you the impression that you telling them the lynch was "bad" was enough to get them off Damdred?

what is this question? ?? is he not supposed to say when he thinks a lynch is bad because other people sound certain? wtf?
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 16:12 GMT
#3488
could well be, but i'm not gonna decide on you till later (but this phase)
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 16:13 GMT
#3489
like I think your questioning of jat in the last couple of pages has been really, really bad

and if jat is mafia and you are actually town, what you're doing is having the opposite of intended effect, rsoultin
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 16:15 GMT
#3492
like jat's point on HF and his attitude towards you isn't terrible in any way. HF did say rso was the scummiest for a long time and then never brought it up near eod

and then you accuse him of "padding his case to make it long" - what is this shit? all he was doing was showing how repeatedly HF gave the rso scumread.
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 16:16 GMT
#3493
On February 08 2015 01:15 rsoultin wrote:
wow you both are acting dumb today. let me spell it out for you:

jat is sitting here waffling between sl and onegu

he keeps saying damdred is a bad lynch, damdred is town

marv and palmar at the very least are so tunneled there's no way they're gonna move

so instead of hammering onegu who has 4 votes with damdred to keep damdred from being lynched, he parks his vote on sl where it's not going to do any good?

so even in a world jat where you think sl is more likely scum than onegu, what makes you so sure of that from one minute to the next that you're not going to vote to save your townread?

yes this is actually fair.
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 16:17 GMT
#3495
rsoultin if you're town, it could actually be jat/hf.

they're just the type of players who would bus each other and try to make the thread think it's an either/or situation
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 16:18 GMT
#3498
jat, sl was never getting any more votes and at the end of the day an extra vote on Onegu would have made quite a big difference. i mean onegu got lynched but everyone thought it was going to be damdred.

no-one thought sl was getting lynched there.
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 16:20 GMT
#3502
ugh
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 16:21 GMT
#3503
use the database, rsoultin
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 16:21 GMT
#3505
the thing with HF is that he can play all styles
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 16:22 GMT
#3506
On February 08 2015 01:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Like you can say I didn't push really hard against an Onegu lynch even though I was more sure on SL which is true to a degree and the reason for this is that I did not have a townread on Onegu but to say I did put damdred in danger by not voting Onegu is simply untrue.

well the point originally raised by HF is that you said that HF's point on Onegu was good but then you never shenannied on to him at any stage.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 16:23 GMT
#3508
kinda annoying jat because part of the reason Palmar and I were on Damdred was that we both thought the sl lynch was bad, but you just sat on it
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 16:25 GMT
#3512
no it's the other way round

part of the reason damdred was mafia because sl wasn't a good lynch.
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 16:38 GMT
#3517
seems Koshi has no problem townreading his scumbuddies

townread Release/HF in different games

with Release he townread him and voted him later
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 16:43 GMT
#3521
yeah tbh Eden's certainty on Koshi gradually made me certain on Koshi

some sort of voodoo
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 16:45 GMT
#3523
i kinda like a lynch on HF though.
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 16:46 GMT
#3525
*massages eden*
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 16:54 GMT
#3532
this is going well
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 17:29 GMT
#3560
On February 08 2015 02:23 Eden1892 wrote:
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On February 08 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2015 02:07 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 08 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2015 02:02 Eden1892 wrote:
HF please satisfactorily rebut JAT's case so I don't have to lynch you over him against literally every emotional fiber of my being right now


Hey, Eden, did you see marv's post on a jat/bats scumteam being unlikely?

yeah, what of it


well, I mean, I intend to go through jat's games to verify that myself, but if it holds true, what then?

honestly I'm lynching HF rn

my vote's still on JAT because I feel like it but short of a really compelling defense from HF, he gone

like no bullshit JAT had a really solid case on HF

funny that all rsoultin did is mock the case then, right?
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 17:29 GMT
#3561
HF will give a compelling defence regardless of his alignment though
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 17:40 GMT
#3570
On February 08 2015 02:33 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2015 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
On February 08 2015 02:23 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 08 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2015 02:07 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 08 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2015 02:02 Eden1892 wrote:
HF please satisfactorily rebut JAT's case so I don't have to lynch you over him against literally every emotional fiber of my being right now


Hey, Eden, did you see marv's post on a jat/bats scumteam being unlikely?

yeah, what of it


well, I mean, I intend to go through jat's games to verify that myself, but if it holds true, what then?

honestly I'm lynching HF rn

my vote's still on JAT because I feel like it but short of a really compelling defense from HF, he gone

like no bullshit JAT had a really solid case on HF

funny that all rsoultin did is mock the case then, right?


you know, the number of times you say things that are untrue is getting annoying

if all I did was mock his case then why was I questioning him on one of his points?

you are so mafia

all you did was question him on random sl/onegu shit, nothnig to do with HF. All you actually did do to his case on HF was mock it
On February 08 2015 00:06 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 07 2015 23:59 LightningStrike wrote:
rsoultin what you think of JAT's case on HF being scum for the 3rd time with me and you?


I could have sworn this case had already been made earlier in the game, LS, or at least the point has already been brought up. Have to double-check who it was, though. Saying that people were actually pushing to lynch me Day 1 is complete bullocks. I was mentioned but no one voted for me except Eden.

The only thing that even would make this case significant is if town HF always stubbornly sticks to one scum read as town, which is not something I can speak to.

On February 08 2015 00:16 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2015 00:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 08 2015 00:12 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2015 00:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 08 2015 00:01 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2015 22:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 07 2015 12:45 rsoultin wrote:
^ Like, I have no good reason to believe jat is town, and he should be the lynch, but I keep coming back to that and going meh.

I have a reason to not lynch jat. But let's lynch him anyways. Seems legit.
On February 07 2015 12:47 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 07 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, so forgive me for going back into WIFOM land, but I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around a scum koshi and a scum jat pushing hard for breshke not to shoot...but no rb and no kill. That just makes no sense to me -_-

...if they have no rb then they would very obviously want us not to shoot. Lol

It would be stranger if they were mafia and pushing for Breshke to shoot with no rb. As it is this makes perfect sense. They don't want us shooting so they argue for us not to shoot because that's the only way we don't shoot

If I was mafia with Koshi and we had no rb then we would kill Breshke. What kind of nonsense is this?


Interesting how you take my post that actually says I have no good reason to believe you're town and then construe it as I have a good reason not to lynch you.
You think it's any more likely for a Koshi/HF team to leave Bresh alive than you and Koshi? It makes no sense for any player in this game to do that!

"I keep coming back to that" good reason to townread me.
Yes, it is more likely for a Koshi/HF team to do this since it was pretty likely that Breshke would shoot me or Koshi. And yes, it doesn't make much sense for anyone to do this but the only possible explanation I see is that they were gambling on Breshke shooting me.


Give me a good reason to townread you, then. What have you really done all game? I mean, seriously? Cause this NK speculation stuff makes 0 sense for anyone as mafia. I can use that lovely WIFOM to try to clear myself, too. Like, why in the world as mafia would I keep insisting Breshke shoot either me or my scum partner, if we're not going to RB or kill him?

This is nonsense. No mafia team is going to sit around with their thumb up their ass and go 'well, hehe, there's a 50/50 chance breshke shoots town so let's roll the dice and hope he kills jat'. Such a dumb argument.

I love how you just keep attacking me for nonsense but completely ignore the huge case on HF.


You've already responded to my thoughts on your huge "case". Nice try.

All you're even saying is that I was his scumread and he didn't push me at EoD when there were what? Three, four other wagons? That case is so flimsy it's hilarious. Good job making it look huge with all the quotes, though.
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February 07 2015 17:45 GMT
#3573
a case on HF being mafia is a case on HF, not jat.
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 17:46 GMT
#3574
the difference between HF and Jat is that HF had you as his strongest reads for a lot of day 1, but jat never did
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marvellosity
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February 07 2015 17:47 GMT
#3577
On February 08 2015 02:46 marvellosity wrote:
the difference between HF and Jat is that HF had you as his strongest reads for a lot of day 1, but jat never did

^ that is why
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February 07 2015 19:03 GMT
#3610
On February 08 2015 03:50 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2015 03:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 08 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2015 23:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so first of all HF is one of the best if not the best scum player on this site. You won't catch him for being inactive uninteresting or any of this shit and he will bus teammates who are playing badly. He will say towny stuff from time to time and he is also perfectly able to "mindmeld" with you at times. You need to look for the agenda he is pushing.

This is why he is mafia:

This is the start of his rsoultin scumread day1. From now on she is basically his #1 scumread.
On February 05 2015 07:03 Holyflare wrote:
I mean if i'm honest I'm probably more sure about rs than damdy

On February 05 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
yeh rsoul is green when I just gave the best case against her ever

On February 05 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
rs is like the biggest mafia and hardly anyone is mentioning her and goes off making cases on other people instead

On February 05 2015 10:10 Holyflare wrote:
On February 05 2015 10:07 Eden1892 wrote:
And shit you said Damdred got more townie. So even if rsoultin didn't, it's bullshit that you're telling me you still have a scumread and so you're content with being lazy.


it is what it is, rsoul has literally posted nothing all game and it hasn't really changed i don't care what your gut tells you or not

On February 06 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
On February 06 2015 02:45 batsnacks wrote:
On February 06 2015 02:43 Holyflare wrote:
I'm at a crossroads between just not giving a crap about the game and giving a modicum of care towards the game with an emphasis on the former and it's somewhat annoying to me.

Nobody even mentioned me other than eden and i haven't even done anything this game really which is super boring and probably means mafia is the weaker players.


I'd vote you if that makes you feel better.

Breshke though... Really...


I'm more inclined to vote rs tbh


But when the deadline comes nearer and people are not all about lynching rsoultin he completely forgets about the read. He isn't decided on who to lynch and has MULTIPLE different targets suddenly that he keeps pushing really hard:
On February 06 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
let's kill oneguuuuuuuuuu

if i'm wrong you can flame me for wasting your time

On February 06 2015 07:56 Holyflare wrote:
abandon wagon ABANDON WAGON

SHEEP TO DAMDRED OR I LYNCH YOU TOMORROW

On February 06 2015 07:57 Holyflare wrote:
god this breshke is actually 100% mafia or something

Notice how ALL of those are town and he can jump between them as much as he wants if he is mafia. No mention of rsoulting ever during all of this.
So what has rsoultin done to make him forget about her? The answer is absolutely nothing. She disappeared like he will say himself later.

Ok, so mislynch accomplished. Back to scumreading rsoultin immediately:
On February 06 2015 08:24 Holyflare wrote:
it's funny how rsoul just appeared at deadline to vote onegu and then completely disappeared again so probably 100% breshke/jat/rsoul


So, I point this out and this is his reaction:
On February 07 2015 01:15 Holyflare wrote:
How have I treated rs? I've thought she was mafia all game and at deadline onegu was way more convincing mafia but then he wasn't mafia so i went back to talking about rs being mafia?

Then where was this read during eod? He literally went after 3 other people and said nothing about her.
If you want to know how town HF handles his scumreads eod look at void mafia. He scumread HTS and pushed her hard even though noone else really was up for it besides Kelsier. He didn't give a fuck about other targets - he pushed HIS scumread.
Now he claimes he scumread rsoulting all game and then he does nothing about getting her lynched? There is no way town HF does this.
He is INSISTING that he never dropped his rsoultin reads though:
On February 07 2015 01:24 Holyflare wrote:
No it's not he said my read progression is damning because I drop it when I haven't


And then the real gem comes:
On February 07 2015 02:00 Holyflare wrote:
I'm also going to preemptively defend myself from a jat onslaught by saying i wasn't invested in this game at all until deadline so my rs read isn't very concrete compared to reads i was making in real time then. Seeing as I was mostly trolling, apart from the nagging what if on damdred.

Not only can you easily see the guilty conscience - he knows I am town and that I caught him and will push him - but SUDDENLY HIS READ WASN'T VERY CONCRETE?
Read the posts I quoted earlier again and decide for yourself if you want to believe this and keep in mind that he "scumread rsoultin all game" and "never dropped the read".

This guy is mafia. I will show more reasons but this rsoultin read evolution is damning enough on it's own and I don't want the post to get too big.


Okay, so, the argument is that I'm HF's scummate playing badly. Let's just stop pretending jat is trying to say anything else here. HF scumreads me most of the night, then when I'm not in the thread actually doing anything and a lot of other people are, and yes, are acting more scummy than my being inactive could ever be, HF switches to them. Can he do that as town or scum? Yes.

Does that mean he ever stopped thinking I was scum if he was town? No, it doesn't.

Does him picking me back up when all his scumreads flipped town make him scum? Uh...no, cause as town if he's racking and stacking scumreads and I'm number 3 or 4 on the list, the others flip town, of course he turns back to scumreading me.

There is nothing in this long line of quotes that makes HF scum. At best it's null.

The bolded. That is the stupidest bullshit I heard in a long time. There is also no way you are number 4 on his list after what he said about you earlier.


I was a policy lynch at best, jat. Stop kidding yourself.

no, HF's push on you was never policy.
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February 07 2015 19:03 GMT
#3612
pretty sure he'd say so himself whether he's town or mafia too.
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February 07 2015 19:30 GMT
#3626
i'm so confused
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 20:41 GMT
#3654
On February 08 2015 05:20 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2015 05:18 batsnacks wrote:
What's the case on jat?

He has many votes and reasons are scarce.


For me it's mostly just how he was behaving at EoD and being pretty forgettable the rest of the game. Sure, he fought back against people scumreading him, but I don't remember him helping trying to solve the game or anything. (And yes, mostly I'm just going off what I've seen many others say in the thread about Jat's town game being infinitely better than this.)

Pretty sure I've got him dead to rights on that SL vote though ^^

I find this deeply ironic
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 20:45 GMT
#3657
I'm glad you're aware at least :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 21:11 GMT
#3663
no it isn't

lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 21:17 GMT
#3668
On February 08 2015 06:14 Breshke wrote:
But unless my shot gets stopped dont we get 4 kills.

So if we think LS is town we can call everyobe else

you may have a point

cutting through the noise there breshke
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 21:18 GMT
#3669
On February 08 2015 06:17 Breshke wrote:
Okay nevermind about the LS town thing but i think it is true that we only need one town that isnt me marv or eden game is solved from everyone else PoV unless you think marv is swagging

dw, there's no way that jat, HF, Palmar all hard townread me if i'm mafia

if you check my mafiagames i'm always under heat
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 07 2015 21:22 GMT
#3672
the "spray kills until we find mafia" always feels so icky though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 21:25 GMT
#3676
On February 08 2015 06:23 Breshke wrote:
@marv and eden. Is it better for us to just try find one town here?

I actually dont know, the problem with this is that if my shot gets blocked or w/e this doesnt work and we are in a fairly bad spot

all we can do is lynch/shoot our best shots at mafia, when it comes down to it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 07 2015 22:42 GMT
#3688
On February 08 2015 07:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2015 07:38 Eden1892 wrote:
Oops I lied no break 4 me lol

Yo if Hf and rso are mafia why is rso having to do the heavy lifting? I feel like there's no way Hf isn't in here to help her. Granted he could just be afk but it's worth considering

What do you mean? HF is obviously afk. He would defend himself as either alignment.

yup.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 10:59 GMT
#3857
jesus christ you're an idiot
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:00 GMT
#3858
you think literally all the players who know me best have called me 100% town when I'm mafia?

can you be any stupider?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:02 GMT
#3859
nb: not read the case because it's bound to be retarded
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:06 GMT
#3861
Palmar was obviously joking about the scummy comment. so dumb.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 11:08 GMT
#3862
I did read the bit he had on me and Koshi and I just facepalmed so hard.

Is Eden really quite so stupid to think that I came around on Koshi because Eden really wanted me to?

Like, really?

That's just what I said, because I like to joke around, and it should be really really obvious that I came around on him for other reasons.

Just... unbelievable.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:12 GMT
#3863
one last thing "waiting for a consensus to form on jat/HF" ?

I moved over to HF before anyone else, 2nd on the wagon after bats only because bats has been gunning for him consistently.

How is that "waiting" for consensus. Jat had 6 votes, HF had 1, and I switched? ok eden
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:14 GMT
#3864
Eden, go read Imperial, or Hero Mafia, or any other game where I am mafia and Palmar is town

never does he say "we've figured each other out as town"

you can trust his read just like you could trust mine on his
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:19 GMT
#3865
Anyway, it seems whichever of jat/HF is in the thread at the time, I don't want to lynch.

I generally agree with HF that jat's EoD D1 was much worse than Holyflare's was. arg.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:21 GMT
#3867
they are both extremely, extremely good players. is the thing/problem.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:25 GMT
#3870
also @Eden - I think we really need to lynch one of them today while we still have the mislynch in our pockets. Now's the time to do it.

I'm gonna vote jat. I think HF's end of day was much better on Day 1 than jat's. Like HF was at least pushing/hardpushing stuff while jat just stuck on sicklucker. There's also a quote from jat that I'm gonna go dig up in a minute because it didn't tally up with something.

Also with how certain jat apparently is on HF/rsoultin, lynching jat because he could be mafia and absolutely confirming he's coming at it from a townie perspective is amazingly useful. which i understand is a terrible reason but is nonetheless a reason

##unvote
##vote: jat
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:26 GMT
#3871
HF, you need to tell Eden his case is ridiculous, please
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:29 GMT
#3874
On February 08 2015 01:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Like you can say I didn't push really hard against an Onegu lynch even though I was more sure on SL which is true to a degree and the reason for this is that I did not have a townread on Onegu but to say I did put damdred in danger by not voting Onegu is simply untrue.

This is the post I am talking about.

Specifically the bolded but the whole of it in its entirety

"I didn't push hard against an onegu lynch" - that's right, he was (tacitly) supporting/pushing the lynch.

jat's stance was *never* that he was *against* the Onegu lynch.

I think this might be some sort of slip, given how else he talks about Onegu in the rest of his filter from the end of d1 onwards.

I don't think a townie should be arguing "I didn't push against the lynch of a guy i was suspicious of to lynch this guy i was more suspicious of"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:30 GMT
#3875
On February 08 2015 20:27 Holyflare wrote:
It's quite good but it doesn't make you mafia. You can pretty much make a case on any player with a 20+ page filter for having inconsistencies.

it's not quite good because it doesn't even have inconsistencies of any mafia nature in it, it's stupid.

you need to remind him how town i am please, this is not a distraction that we need today
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:32 GMT
#3877
not engaging till you tell eden that i am definitely town
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:33 GMT
#3880
On February 08 2015 20:32 marvellosity wrote:
not engaging till you tell eden that i am definitely town

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:33 GMT
#3882
On February 08 2015 20:33 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2015 20:32 marvellosity wrote:
not engaging till you tell eden that i am definitely town


^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:34 GMT
#3884
why not?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:34 GMT
#3885
did your 100% read from earlier fall down for some reason?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:35 GMT
#3887
##unvote
##vote: hf
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:38 GMT
#3890
there's a significant difference between the two games in that you were absolutely certain on HtS like you weren't absolutely certain on anyone this game

so the two situations aren't comparable like that

so it's not a 100% thing like you're making it out to be.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:40 GMT
#3891
On February 08 2015 20:29 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2015 01:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Like you can say I didn't push really hard against an Onegu lynch even though I was more sure on SL which is true to a degree and the reason for this is that I did not have a townread on Onegu but to say I did put damdred in danger by not voting Onegu is simply untrue.

This is the post I am talking about.

Specifically the bolded but the whole of it in its entirety

"I didn't push hard against an onegu lynch" - that's right, he was (tacitly) supporting/pushing the lynch.

jat's stance was *never* that he was *against* the Onegu lynch.

I think this might be some sort of slip, given how else he talks about Onegu in the rest of his filter from the end of d1 onwards.

I don't think a townie should be arguing "I didn't push against the lynch of a guy i was suspicious of to lynch this guy i was more suspicious of"

Also pretty sure this ^

is a new point
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:47 GMT
#3894
i'm talking about jat, not you, silly
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 11:48 GMT
#3895
read what i'm saying again.

jat is saying he didn't push AGAINST an onegu lynch to lynch sl in that quote.

all his previous posts suggest he was reading Onegu as scummy, and that maybe he should have pushed FOR an Onegu lynch.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:49 GMT
#3896
now who isn't reading
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:53 GMT
#3899
against an onegu lynch, not to lynch onegu...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:53 GMT
#3900
oh yea. sry bbz
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:54 GMT
#3901
meh maybe i am not explaining it very well. i don't think what he's saying about Onegu in that one quote jives with what he said about Onegu at all other times.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 11:55 GMT
#3902
i think i explained it best in my original post there tbh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:55 GMT
#3903
##Unvote
##vote: jat


probably shouldn't spite vote at this stage
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 11:57 GMT
#3905
still think you might be mafia for leaving your options open on me when you should absolutely know i'm not mafia. i think that's pretty atrocious.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:58 GMT
#3907
##unvote
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 11:58 GMT
#3908
just gonna have to leave this until later.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 12:03 GMT
#3912
nor did you...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 12:04 GMT
#3918
On February 08 2015 21:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2015 20:57 marvellosity wrote:
still think you might be mafia for leaving your options open on me when you should absolutely know i'm not mafia. i think that's pretty atrocious.


Right because if you're town and I'm mafia I'm not just going to pocket you and shoot you like I've done every game as mafia.

if i'm town and you're mafia, you absolutely need mislynch options
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 12:06 GMT
#3920
you're not dumb enough to believe that's an argument right
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 12:09 GMT
#3924
yeah, i know right??????
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 13:27 GMT
#3932
that's not that tinfoil-hatty

sounds more plausible than anything else so far
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 13:29 GMT
#3934
what else do you think breshke?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 13:31 GMT
#3937
I think that's pretty unlikely, because mafia KP is factional and mafia would always use the factional KP on you, not palmar
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 13:34 GMT
#3941
i think that's literally the only thing that makes sense

everythnig else made zero sense to me but that makes sense. i think that must be how it is
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 13:35 GMT
#3943
well mafia would know there was a doctor already
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 13:37 GMT
#3946
you can certainly ask, my dear
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 13:40 GMT
#3949
On February 08 2015 22:39 Breshke wrote:
Yeah but talking about it doesnt really help town and just lets mafia see peoples reaction

actually it lets town see other people's reactions ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 13:41 GMT
#3950
On February 08 2015 22:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Can you read bats filter and see how many times he talked about JAT this entire game and how many there were from today alone?

Can you not do this? :>

Or are you actually saying "marv, bats has barely mentioned jat at all, has he?"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 13:44 GMT
#3952
why? it seems to be the only logical explanation of what happened in the night
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 13:50 GMT
#3958
On February 08 2015 22:49 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2015 22:46 justanothertownie wrote:
There is only one logical explanation. They thought Breshke would shoot me so they did not rb him and they can rb and shoot him in the next night if they want.
2 2shot vigs in a 13 player game? No way.


Yeah thats also a a good point

i don't think it is, you quite clearly showed a willingness to shoot Koshi and by end of night both me and Eden wanted to kill Koshi

that's an insane risk to take
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 13:54 GMT
#3960
Breshke said he wanted to shoot you, but said he might shoot jat because of what eden + someone else said

then eden said he wanted to kill koshi
i wanted to kill koshi

meh.

i think mafia can have a 2 shot vigi if we have one too and we also have a doctor, and they don't have a roleblocker, because it makes our roles 100x stronger
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 13:55 GMT
#3963
i don't think it's extremely unlikely at all

i think it's a good deal more likely than anything else

it's not unreasonable to assume medic would save the claimed blue
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 13:56 GMT
#3965
yes it does. get lost.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 13:57 GMT
#3967
show me any 13p mini with one 2-shot vig
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 13:58 GMT
#3969
not really, if you give town an extremely powerful role (and if mafia doesn't have a rber even 100x more powerful) then mafia can easily have a powerful role like that
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 13:59 GMT
#3970
all 2 2-shot vigis means is you're creating a much faster game with more KP for both sides
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 14:00 GMT
#3973
also no-one gives town 2-shot vigi in a 13p mini ever

so precedent is a shit argument to use
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 14:03 GMT
#3976
i quite obviously disagree and i think it's perfectly possible.

anyway, gonna go exercise as this argument has no resolution.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 17:35 GMT
#4198
....
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 17:36 GMT
#4202
i think we should vote marv
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 08 2015 17:38 GMT
#4210
On February 09 2015 01:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 01:05 batsnacks wrote:
HF why is marv scummy today?


Behaving weird. Not really solving anything and is lazy. Taking credit for the koshi shot when i sat there n1 CONVINCING him about koshi, pushing a weird jat read thing and more interested with me calling him town for eden than conversing about me and jat and then has no real opinion about the case when jat posed a case and i posed a rebuttal and then he says he wants to lynch jat to see if he was sincere even though I'm talking about it not being right. He's very dislocated.

never did this.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 17:38 GMT
#4211
HF/JAT final answer

do what you like
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 17:39 GMT
#4213
yeah i'm not reading anymore of what i missed, it's got to dumb

glhf
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 17:39 GMT
#4215
*too

it's affecting me as well
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 17:50 GMT
#4239
On February 09 2015 02:39 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
yeah i'm not reading anymore of what i missed, it's got to dumb

glhf

you have no comment on bats's claim...?

no i hadn't read it. my vote is on mafia then.

i will return roughly 5-10 minutes before deadline to lecture you jubjubs.

And you're all going to go "lol marv never gives up at town"

and i will gloat that i would rather break my unlynched streak to punish you morons than to fight this retarded lynch.

and you'll go "yeah right" and then i'll flip mafia+ Show Spoiler +
town
and i'll hope town loses, horribly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 17:52 GMT
#4244
HF is 100% mafia, don't tell I didn't tell you so Eden.

DO NOT SAY I DID NOT TELL YOU SO.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 17:52 GMT
#4245
when I flip, know I am never wrong with my 100% reads.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 17:52 GMT
#4249
spite
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 17:53 GMT
#4250
On February 09 2015 02:52 Eden1892 wrote:
Bruh marv if this lynch is this retarded why not just spend like 10 minutes bitchslapping my case instead of getting the rest of us to waste the next 5 hrs speculating like you're already mafia?

i bitchslapped it in the 5 posts after i read it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 17:53 GMT
#4253
On February 09 2015 02:52 marvellosity wrote:
HF is 100% mafia, don't tell I didn't tell you so Eden.

DO NOT SAY I DID NOT TELL YOU SO.

^

toodles
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 08 2015 22:07 GMT
#4482
hi!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:08 GMT
#4485
lynch/shoot HF after I die

100% read.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:11 GMT
#4488
Eden - for that exact reason

Koshi's read on rsoultin's was absolutely ridiculous and that's why i pushed him hard for it. Then all the little niggles came together and made sense and so he was mafia. that's all there was to it.

none of the rest of it means anything, other than the fact you think I managed to pocket Palmar for the first time ever miraculously.

The simple fact is that anyone voting to lynch me today is awful, because even if you take away my play (which i think has been plenty town and not something I've ever managed to pull off as mafia), there is no mafia player, not me, not HF, not any mafia-gosu, who sees a town-eden, the most obviously townie player when he is town ever, claim miller and go "i know, i'll counterclaim this!". It's a 0% play in all circumstances.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:12 GMT
#4490
On February 09 2015 07:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Marv do you think that the mafia team is Eden, Breshke?

what part of me repeating Holyflare is 100% mafia are you not reading or understanding?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:13 GMT
#4494
It rebutted the only stuff that mattered, Eden.

The rest is stupid conjecture about how I'm uncertain today. So what?

The miller thing alone stands as a 100% thing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:13 GMT
#4495
On February 09 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay Marv is it Eden HF?

no Eden is 100% town
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:15 GMT
#4497
don't know, don't care. either i get lynched today and i have a giggle about it (am very zen and amused about this) and you kill HF (which you must, do NOT LET HIM TALK HIS WAY OUT) or you lynch HF

i accept nothing else
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:15 GMT
#4499
i'll self-vote before i let you kill LS today

HF is 100% mafia
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:16 GMT
#4500
if i'm alive you'll never believe me to kill HF

you MUST kill me or HF
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:16 GMT
#4504
no we don't

we lynch marv or HF
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:17 GMT
#4507
On February 09 2015 07:16 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:15 marvellosity wrote:
don't know, don't care. either i get lynched today and i have a giggle about it (am very zen and amused about this) and you kill HF (which you must, do NOT LET HIM TALK HIS WAY OUT) or you lynch HF

i accept nothing else


Why is it HF?

I don't know how to explain it. The way he's treated me the whole game.

The way he put me in a PoE list but later explained that I was 100% town (his words)

the way he later fell off his read of me.

HF knows me very very very very well. he knows i cannot play like this as mafia

that's why when i came back to the thread earlier I voted HF in the votethread before i even read any of the thread (most of which i haven't read) because him voting for me is a direct scumclaim. Literally just a scumclaim.

But only I know it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:18 GMT
#4508
On February 09 2015 07:16 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:16 marvellosity wrote:
if i'm alive you'll never believe me to kill HF

you MUST kill me or HF

man. don't be like that

it is absolutely like that.

LS is not the lynch. i'd rather you lynched me before LS because even if LS is mafia i think you'll lose to HF anyway.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:19 GMT
#4511
that's why you have to lynch me or him

nto fucking LS

LS is fucking irrelevant

lynch him later if you have to
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:20 GMT
#4514
On February 09 2015 07:19 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:17 marvellosity wrote:
On February 09 2015 07:16 batsnacks wrote:
On February 09 2015 07:15 marvellosity wrote:
don't know, don't care. either i get lynched today and i have a giggle about it (am very zen and amused about this) and you kill HF (which you must, do NOT LET HIM TALK HIS WAY OUT) or you lynch HF

i accept nothing else


Why is it HF?

I don't know how to explain it. The way he's treated me the whole game.

The way he put me in a PoE list but later explained that I was 100% town (his words)

the way he later fell off his read of me.

HF knows me very very very very well. he knows i cannot play like this as mafia

that's why when i came back to the thread earlier I voted HF in the votethread before i even read any of the thread (most of which i haven't read) because him voting for me is a direct scumclaim. Literally just a scumclaim.

But only I know it.


so this is based on his read on you? that makes me uncomfortable

of course it is. HF has played with me loads of times and we have talked about mafia on skype a million times. I've met HF in person for god's sakes.

There is a 0% chance HF legitimiately thinks I am mafia this game. 0%.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:20 GMT
#4516
On February 09 2015 07:19 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:17 marvellosity wrote:
On February 09 2015 07:16 batsnacks wrote:
On February 09 2015 07:15 marvellosity wrote:
don't know, don't care. either i get lynched today and i have a giggle about it (am very zen and amused about this) and you kill HF (which you must, do NOT LET HIM TALK HIS WAY OUT) or you lynch HF

i accept nothing else


Why is it HF?

I don't know how to explain it. The way he's treated me the whole game.

The way he put me in a PoE list but later explained that I was 100% town (his words)

the way he later fell off his read of me.

HF knows me very very very very well. he knows i cannot play like this as mafia

that's why when i came back to the thread earlier I voted HF in the votethread before i even read any of the thread (most of which i haven't read) because him voting for me is a direct scumclaim. Literally just a scumclaim.

But only I know it.


I'm not trying to trivialize the point you are trying to make, but the jist of it is that HF should know you're town and he doesn't?

What about jat's case? Did you read that?

doesn't matter, don't care. if it was the one from earlier i probably already commented on it.
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:21 GMT
#4517
On February 09 2015 07:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:19 marvellosity wrote:
that's why you have to lynch me or him

nto fucking LS

LS is fucking irrelevant

lynch him later if you have to

We can lynch one and have Breshke shoot the other though.

if I live no-one is gonna believe me over HF for some magical reason that he has powers.

we don't lynch LS today.

LS could easily be terrible town. he's always terrible. he could be mafia. he could be town

HF cannot be town. he cannot.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:23 GMT
#4522
jat, you fucking know i don't ever play like this as mafia. i can't.

open my imperial filter and put it next to this one. they are not the same, nto even close. i can't replicate the cares. i can't replicate caring like i do around lynch. i can't replicate the flitting around.

i don't councterclaim super-town eden as miller

the whole thing is massive bs.

jat, you know that HF cannot read me as mafia this game. it's retarded.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:23 GMT
#4523
On February 09 2015 07:22 batsnacks wrote:
Marv say something else about why you're town and HF is scum.

no.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:24 GMT
#4525
THERE IS NO OTHER LOOK

vote for me, or vote for HF

don't vote for LS, you god damn fucking pussy.
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:24 GMT
#4528
On February 09 2015 07:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:23 marvellosity wrote:
jat, you fucking know i don't ever play like this as mafia. i can't.

open my imperial filter and put it next to this one. they are not the same, nto even close. i can't replicate the cares. i can't replicate caring like i do around lynch. i can't replicate the flitting around.

i don't councterclaim super-town eden as miller

the whole thing is massive bs.

jat, you know that HF cannot read me as mafia this game. it's retarded.

You wanted to lynch me over him.

if you're town then who am i calling mafia? my vote is on HF.

so what if i wanted to lynch you over him? you know i can't play this way as mafia

you know i don't fucking coutnerclaim miller there. all the stuff i said is completely true.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:25 GMT
#4530
no. kill me not LS

I want to die before LS.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:25 GMT
#4532
i will self-vote if it means i die before LS.
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:26 GMT
#4535
On February 09 2015 07:25 batsnacks wrote:
marv why did HF kill palmar?

how the fuck do i know?

to implicate jat who was waffling like shit on him?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:26 GMT
#4537
On February 09 2015 07:26 Breshke wrote:
##Vote LS

you are a terrible player.
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:27 GMT
#4540
it is OMGUS.

but it's OMGUS that makes him mafia

there's a massive difference

there's a shit-tonne of people voting me rsoultin. Like there were 6 votes on me or something? Only HF's makes him 100% mafia. can't be bothered to sort the rest now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:28 GMT
#4543
like if I hard-pocketed Palmar for literally the first time ever as mafia, i don't bloody shoot him.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:28 GMT
#4544
On February 09 2015 07:28 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:27 marvellosity wrote:
it is OMGUS.

but it's OMGUS that makes him mafia

there's a massive difference

there's a shit-tonne of people voting me rsoultin. Like there were 6 votes on me or something? Only HF's makes him 100% mafia. can't be bothered to sort the rest now

If you basically give up and say you will not defend yourself then every vote on you is justified and you won't get any information out of them.

HOLYFLARE VOTED ME BEFORE THAT JAT
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:28 GMT
#4545
there is NO WAY IN HELL HF thinks i am the best shot at mafia in the situation where he voted me. never.
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:29 GMT
#4549
On February 09 2015 07:29 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 09 2015 07:27 marvellosity wrote:
it is OMGUS.

but it's OMGUS that makes him mafia

there's a massive difference

there's a shit-tonne of people voting me rsoultin. Like there were 6 votes on me or something? Only HF's makes him 100% mafia. can't be bothered to sort the rest now

If you basically give up and say you will not defend yourself then every vote on you is justified and you won't get any information out of them.

Isn't that kinda the point? marv gave HF a free ticket to vote him with his move and HF did.

no???

I voted HF because he voted me before I trolled earlier
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:29 GMT
#4552
that's the whole bloody point!
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:30 GMT
#4553
On February 09 2015 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote marvellosity

On February 09 2015 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##vote: holyflare


his vote came BEFORE
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:31 GMT
#4556
i literally saw the voting thread before i looked at the thread and voted him.

then i went and saw the reasons and they were appropriately awful. because HF cannot be scumreading me as his #1 scumread int his situation

he just can't.
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:31 GMT
#4557
On February 09 2015 07:30 batsnacks wrote:
I didn't remember marv claiming miller after eden. That changes my perspective on things...

I am going back to bolded:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 01:20 batsnacks wrote:
I've solved the game.

marv and breshke are the remaining mafia. Breshke is a mafia vig, he shot koshi. They did this because breshke and koshi were already highly suspected and likely to get lynched. Also the number of VTs that died makes this more do-able. Marv shot palmar because palmar would have figured out his alignment the longer the game went on.

I originally thought it was HF + breshke because it seems like a play HF would do but I think this is right.



##unvote
##vote HF

Eden claimed miller, I counterclaimed him, Eden lol-voted me, then Eden cleared me at the time for counterclaiming him

correctly i might add

because it would be fucking stupid as shit for me to cc there
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:32 GMT
#4558
HF would also know this 100%

HF is not a baddie. the rest of you are but HF isn't
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:33 GMT
#4562
On February 09 2015 07:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:32 marvellosity wrote:
HF would also know this 100%

HF is not a baddie. the rest of you are but HF isn't

Screw you.

are you telling me it's not true?

what situation does any mafia counterclaim Eden's miller claim there?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:34 GMT
#4566
do you not understand it rsoultin?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:35 GMT
#4569
On February 09 2015 07:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:33 marvellosity wrote:
On February 09 2015 07:32 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 09 2015 07:32 marvellosity wrote:
HF would also know this 100%

HF is not a baddie. the rest of you are but HF isn't

Screw you.

are you telling me it's not true?

what situation does any mafia counterclaim Eden's miller claim there?

Weren't you the one saying that Eden was obviously making a play? Not that this discussion is leading anywhere.

that was once people were questioning eden for why he claimed miller and retracted it

it was obvious he was making a play once he retracted his miller claim
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:36 GMT
#4571
i only said it was a play after you retracted eden

at the time it was just a straight cc
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:37 GMT
#4576
that's possible eden

or it may have just been natural thread evolution where koshi made a mistake and HF pushed him for it.
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:37 GMT
#4577
On February 09 2015 07:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
do you not understand it rsoultin?


not understand what? I've been arguing that same point, but couldn't figure out why you'd just up and quit. I'm just tired of being fooled by HF every time he plays scum

because i thought the case and votes on me were the stupidest things i ever read in mafia.

have you not worked out I can be temperemental yet? :p
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:39 GMT
#4582
On February 09 2015 07:38 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:37 marvellosity wrote:
that's possible eden

or it may have just been natural thread evolution where koshi made a mistake and HF pushed him for it.

Why in fuck's name does Koshi try to get me, the universal townread, lynched in that spot when he's under fire? And why does he do such a bad job of it?

Koshi is too good to have played that bad while trying to play well.

thing to learn about mafia is that mafia make mistakes Eden

there's a couple of times where I pushed people and some minutes later thought I really shouldn't have done that. And I never get caught for that kinda shit.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:39 GMT
#4583
On February 09 2015 07:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:37 marvellosity wrote:
On February 09 2015 07:36 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2015 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
do you not understand it rsoultin?


not understand what? I've been arguing that same point, but couldn't figure out why you'd just up and quit. I'm just tired of being fooled by HF every time he plays scum

because i thought the case and votes on me were the stupidest things i ever read in mafia.

have you not worked out I can be temperemental yet? :p


lol you've been pretty chill in most of my dealings with you, actually, but I can't say I know you that well. you know, other than the OMGUS moments xP

normally i fly off the handle when i am accused as town

i just did it in a weird way this game, admittedly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:40 GMT
#4586
there is that
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:40 GMT
#4587
townies look so town when i am mafia
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:42 GMT
#4588
On February 09 2015 07:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:37 marvellosity wrote:
On February 09 2015 07:36 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2015 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
do you not understand it rsoultin?


not understand what? I've been arguing that same point, but couldn't figure out why you'd just up and quit. I'm just tired of being fooled by HF every time he plays scum

because i thought the case and votes on me were the stupidest things i ever read in mafia.

have you not worked out I can be temperemental yet? :p


lol you've been pretty chill in most of my dealings with you, actually, but I can't say I know you that well. you know, other than the OMGUS moments xP

by the way this is very kind of you because i'm pretty sure i've been rudest to you this game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:42 GMT
#4591
On February 09 2015 07:42 batsnacks wrote:
marv thoughts on HF+breshke team?

was there reasons that Breshke was mafia that i haven't read?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:43 GMT
#4592
like i only read your cop claim because i saw eden go "did you not see bats' claim"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:44 GMT
#4595
why?

Breshke can not claim and shoot town and then even if we lynched Breshke day 2, town would still have to lynch scum for the next 2 days as well
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:46 GMT
#4598
maybe mafia don't have a roleblocker. i dno. I can't prove that I did this without cheating, but rsoultin do you remember i sent myself a PM? It was my tin-foil hat theory for endgame cred

Original Message From marvellosity:
mafia is HF Breshke, because only HF would hatch that plot. for endgame cred :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:47 GMT
#4599
On February 09 2015 07:46 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 07:44 marvellosity wrote:
why?

Breshke can not claim and shoot town and then even if we lynched Breshke day 2, town would still have to lynch scum for the next 2 days as well


If breshke gets lynched, which I think he is without the claim, town still has a ml. Also HF looks great for the stuff he said about koshi n1.

No, it was 6-2 today

it would have been 5-3 constant mylo if he shot town
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:49 GMT
#4602
it just seems such a weird play when a mafia vig shooting town puts town in triple MYLO

i mean christ
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 08 2015 22:51 GMT
#4605
On February 09 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:
Marv i don't think thats possible. Look how soon i claimed vig how could HF hatch that plan so fast. If we were mafia together how would we have known there was going to be three kills

you only had to hatch the plan between the modkills and eod
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:51 GMT
#4607
wait

breshke claimed before modkills?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:52 GMT
#4610
oh. then you should still be town really.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:52 GMT
#4611
if it was after mafia just stfu and put town in triple mylo.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 08 2015 22:57 GMT
#4613
ok i'm gonna make a protein shake, this is going too slow
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 08 2015 23:03 GMT
#4618
oops
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 08 2015 23:03 GMT
#4620
o well we lost gg
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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February 08 2015 23:04 GMT
#4623
na we lost

because now i have to die
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 23:08 GMT
#4632
On February 09 2015 08:07 Eden1892 wrote:
$10 says marv was mafia and literally only tried at the end there to end HF's mislynched streak before he dies

deal
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 23:36 GMT
#4651
On February 09 2015 08:13 Eden1892 wrote:
marv's svengali blinded it for just long enough to get the HF ml

HF when you read this I'm sorry for being a dumbass. We should have lynched LS and shot you or just not killed you at all

everything i said about my own alignment remains true though
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marvellosity
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February 08 2015 23:46 GMT
#4652
it just means LS is mafia and HF was right all along about jat

but all my cred is gone to push this
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marvellosity
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February 09 2015 00:00 GMT
#4657
gj being town today btw rsoultin.
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marvellosity
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February 09 2015 00:04 GMT
#4662
On February 09 2015 09:03 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 09:00 marvellosity wrote:
gj being town today btw rsoultin.


I was always town? the only difference is it's the weekend lol

alright, well gj for making it obvious to me anyway
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 00:05 GMT
#4665
On February 09 2015 09:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 08:46 marvellosity wrote:
it just means LS is mafia and HF was right all along about jat

I would love to hear an explanation for this.

my vote was on you before i went nuts because i saw HF voted me.

essentially he was town and convinced you were mafia and i'd believed him and the things i saw before it all went tits up.

I think end of d1 especially you were really weak.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 00:06 GMT
#4667
On February 09 2015 09:06 Breshke wrote:
The problem with me shooting LS is that i don't think it gives information as either flip

Yeah he is scummy but this is totally within the LS town playbook i think.

Also larger chance i dont egt a shot of tonight anyway

I think you 100% get your shot
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 00:07 GMT
#4670
LS is calling jat mafia because he's his partner and he can't actually finger two townpeople

even though he's trying to finger rsoultin who is now supertown
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 00:07 GMT
#4672
On February 09 2015 09:07 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 09:05 marvellosity wrote:
On February 09 2015 09:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 09 2015 08:46 marvellosity wrote:
it just means LS is mafia and HF was right all along about jat

I would love to hear an explanation for this.

my vote was on you before i went nuts because i saw HF voted me.

essentially he was town and convinced you were mafia and i'd believed him and the things i saw before it all went tits up.

I think end of d1 especially you were really weak.

Even if he was convinced that doesn not mean he was right and you know that. He only scumread me because I was going after him.

blatantly untrue
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 00:08 GMT
#4674
"only" = blatantly untrue

there were plenty of reasons.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 00:09 GMT
#4675
i'm not going to argue with you though, i'm just not
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 00:10 GMT
#4679
it really isn't

people can read HF's filter for themselves
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 00:10 GMT
#4680
don't flatter yourself
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 01:20 GMT
#4702
basically LS is telling us that his scumpartner is the gf
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 09:46 GMT
#4790
if you're clueless as to whether i'm town, you've not been reading the game.

i've said enough by now and the miller claim from right at the start will never change whatever i do now. that's a constant.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 09:47 GMT
#4791
jat is fingering rsoultin as mafia when rsoultin just looks very, very townie.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 09:48 GMT
#4792
tbh I think we shoot LS and if he flips framer or non-GF then we're a go.

gotta take that shot though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 09:50 GMT
#4793
it's honestly pretty dumb because i was close to confirmed town d2 because i am so obviously town, then eden distracted town with a terrible marv case.

it was always hf/jat and that's how it still should be, if one is town, the other mafia

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 09:55 GMT
#4794
although personally i would go full yolo and shoot jat
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 10:01 GMT
#4796
shrug
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 10:01 GMT
#4797
this is gonna be fun for breshke
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 10:21 GMT
#4799
On February 09 2015 19:05 Eden1892 wrote:
No, I mean, you specified those outcomes for a reason. Why does LS flipping godfather put the outcome in doubt?

well then it would have to be jat/bats if jat were to be mafia wouldn't it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 10:23 GMT
#4800
like there's no way bats/LS are mafia together because it makes bats' play on d2 totally redundant
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 10:28 GMT
#4803
i don't see why bats would ever fakeclaim in that spot if LS is his partner. what's the point?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 10:30 GMT
#4804
your heuristics are bad, a team with me+HF in it lost a scumbuddy d1, a team with me+VE in it lost a scumbuddy d1, etc etc
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 10:32 GMT
#4805
Koshi was caught because he played badly and in the end active townies decided he was mafia.

and obviously there was no resistance to that "lynch"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 09 2015 11:12 GMT
#4808
it certainly looks like it
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 09 2015 11:14 GMT
#4809
it's all on your shoulders Bresh :p

I have a chess match this evening so I'm not going to be around to argue at the opportune moment
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 11:21 GMT
#4811
yeah don't do that :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 11:22 GMT
#4812
and ignore me, i'm grumpy when i want something and people arent doing what i say

let's just forget for the moment i was totally wrong
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 13:15 GMT
#4815
On February 09 2015 22:06 rsoultin wrote:
Or modkills, for that matter.

Straight up strategically it makes more sense to kill the player who probably won't be able to talk himself out of a mislynch if he's town, if we're going to be honest here, because if the shot tonight is town it's MYLO. So I say do that or do your strongest scumread.

on the flip side, you could argue to shoot the player who is most likely to talk himself out of a correct lynch
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 15:49 GMT
#4822
miller

get realz

thx
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 15:50 GMT
#4823
On February 10 2015 00:43 Eden1892 wrote:
shoot marv final answer

instincts OP, this sequence is hella wrong

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 18:47 marvellosity wrote:
jat is fingering rsoultin as mafia when rsoultin just looks very, very townie.

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 18:48 marvellosity wrote:
tbh I think we shoot LS and if he flips framer or non-GF then we're a go.

gotta take that shot though

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 18:55 marvellosity wrote:
although personally i would go full yolo and shoot jat

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 19:55 Breshke wrote:
On February 09 2015 19:28 marvellosity wrote:
i don't see why bats would ever fakeclaim in that spot if LS is his partner. what's the point?


I agree so from your PoV JAT is like confirmed mafia

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 20:12 marvellosity wrote:
it certainly looks like it


marv already had all the reasons needed to scumread JAT but called shooting him "a yolo play" and suggests killing LS instead
when Breshke points out that JAT is confirmed mafia with the info marv already cited, marv says "it certainly looks like [JAT is confirmed mafia]" and then doesn't revise his shot call
...which means his shot call is the same as the person he has as confirmed mafia!

these guys are the scumteam shoot marv lynch JAT we win

it's funny to me how little understanding you have of how i write my posts and the intentions behind them
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 15:50 GMT
#4824
this is my koshi read all over again
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 15:51 GMT
#4826
On February 10 2015 00:51 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 00:49 marvellosity wrote:
miller

get realz

thx

Meh. Reading that I was fakeclaiming miller wasn't that hard IMO. I keep finding this really unconvincing.

Breshke shoot this guy. I want to kill JAT myself.

how was it not hard?

you said "I claim miller"

I said "i'm miller"

......
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 15:53 GMT
#4827
like i had a big beef with various people

AFTER YOU RETRACTED YOUR MILLER CLAIM

where a whole bunch of people didn't understand it was a play

so how the fuck was it obvious BEFORE you retracted, right at the start

are you fucking insane?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 15:55 GMT
#4828
"although personally i would go full yolo and shoot jat" = shoot jat

lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 15:56 GMT
#4829
Damdred and rsoultin being the main two i remember who didn't know you were making a play, and that was after you retracted your claim

so if you think i came to the thread, saw your claim, and immediately deduced it was fake

then you, sir, are on the craaaazy train.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 15:57 GMT
#4832
On February 10 2015 00:56 batsnacks wrote:
Miller cc or not... If your 100% reads are never wrong then how can we let you live?

because i had to literally say "100%" there?

no
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 15:58 GMT
#4834
well i'm just going to have to trust breshke.

eden too stupid
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 15:58 GMT
#4836
crazy train confirmed
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 15:59 GMT
#4839
On February 10 2015 00:58 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 00:57 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 00:56 batsnacks wrote:
Miller cc or not... If your 100% reads are never wrong then how can we let you live?

because i had to literally say "100%" there?

no


What?

if i am mafia

and i am lynching a townie

i do not need to say "100%" and have people go "but your 100% reads are never wrong"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 15:59 GMT
#4840
On February 10 2015 00:59 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 00:55 marvellosity wrote:
"although personally i would go full yolo and shoot jat" = shoot jat

lol

bruh hell no.

you just said before it "you have to take the shot" on LS

and then calling it a full yolo play is obviously devaluing it so Breshke writes it off

come the fuck on

ok
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:01 GMT
#4842
I mean I can't argue with the guy who says

"when I said "I am miller" you knew I was making a play and so you counterclaimed, even though if you knew it was a play there's still a very real risk there's a real miller out there"

there is no arguing with that sort of person
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:02 GMT
#4844
of course LS's case is legit, it's a hard bus
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:03 GMT
#4847
but it's literally pointless to argue with you, you can't apply basic logic so what's the point
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:05 GMT
#4848
it's like being barked at by a dog, and i can tell him he doesn't get dinner for an hour because he only gets dinner after i've had dinner and it's the same every day, but the dog will continue to bark

best just leave the animal to it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:05 GMT
#4850
said that right at the beginning of phase

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:06 GMT
#4852
On February 09 2015 08:46 marvellosity wrote:
it just means LS is mafia and HF was right all along about jat

but all my cred is gone to push this

^^^^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:08 GMT
#4857
you're reading way too much into how i phrase things

"koshi your read is ridiculous" and "i am sheeping eden on koshi" = "koshi you're mafia for this read, and this townie in the thread is calling you mafia right now so i'm just going to call you mafia in a flowery way by saying i sheep eden"

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:08 GMT
#4858
On February 10 2015 01:07 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 00:59 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 00:58 batsnacks wrote:
On February 10 2015 00:57 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 00:56 batsnacks wrote:
Miller cc or not... If your 100% reads are never wrong then how can we let you live?

because i had to literally say "100%" there?

no


What?

if i am mafia

and i am lynching a townie

i do not need to say "100%" and have people go "but your 100% reads are never wrong"


You weren't lynching a townie, you were getting lynched . It's not like you weren't under pressure and just 'lynched a townie.'

pretty sure given i got a clean sweep i could have used practically any other wording. and the fact i'm town.

i mean has someone actually opened Imperial and put that filter next to this one?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:10 GMT
#4859
On February 10 2015 01:07 Eden1892 wrote:
and why do you say "it certainly seems that way" about jat being confirmed mafia if he's 100% mafia to you?

it doesn't add up

YOU ARE SO STUPID

if I'm mafia then I *have to* present those 2 reads as my certain reads

i don't fuck about with "it certainly seems that way"

it's like your completely incapable of reading tone and intention
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:14 GMT
#4860
Put it this way, Eden, let's go back to the Koshi thing.

Whether you like how I arrived at the read or not, by the end of the night it's quite clear I wanted to kill Koshi, right?

So according to you I angle my top read in a way, as mafia, that gives me the absolute least credit when Koshi flips (which i'd have to know was quite a likely occurrence given the discussions).

Like I couldn't have got less credit for this Koshi read if I tried. Mafia don't try to get credit in the way I went about the read, that much is very very clear from the way you attacked me for it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:17 GMT
#4862
because i'm obviously incapable of making analogies as both alignments

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:18 GMT
#4863
I can't wait until I morph into your scumread though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:19 GMT
#4865
christ
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:20 GMT
#4869
lol
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:20 GMT
#4870
Eden, you're hilarious, i'll give you that
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:21 GMT
#4873
On February 10 2015 01:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
I can't wait until I morph into your scumread though

You are on a good way with your current behaviour.

excellent.

so predictable
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:22 GMT
#4874
On February 10 2015 01:21 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:20 marvellosity wrote:
Eden, you're hilarious, i'll give you that

sodium content too low

computer says mafia

like i said, i can't argue with that kinda logic.

you've made 2+2 into 3 by rounding each 2 down to 1.5, and I can't do anything about it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:22 GMT
#4875
can't wait till Breshke makes the wrong shot, mafia vigi hit their shot and town lose tonight

it's gonna be baller
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:23 GMT
#4877
On February 10 2015 01:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:20 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
I can't wait until I morph into your scumread though

You are on a good way with your current behaviour.

excellent.

so predictable

Yes, if you confidently call me scum without giving any reasons for it and without even trying to figure me out and this is like your 3rd or 4th really strong read that is wrong this game then I start having trouble believing you are town.

i know babe, i know you have to call me mafia here

it's ok, keep it up
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:24 GMT
#4879
On February 10 2015 01:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:22 marvellosity wrote:
can't wait till Breshke makes the wrong shot, mafia vigi hit their shot and town lose tonight

it's gonna be baller

You think I am scum AND there is a mafia vigi? How on earth does that make sense?

why not?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:25 GMT
#4881
On February 10 2015 01:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:23 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:20 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
I can't wait until I morph into your scumread though

You are on a good way with your current behaviour.

excellent.

so predictable

Yes, if you confidently call me scum without giving any reasons for it and without even trying to figure me out and this is like your 3rd or 4th really strong read that is wrong this game then I start having trouble believing you are town.

i know babe, i know you have to call me mafia here

it's ok, keep it up

I don't have to call you anything because I am town. But you are not working with me. You are not trying to solve the game. You have gone into this day with LS/JAT mafia 100% and are not reevaluating this in the slightest.

that's because you're mafia

mr. "HF/rsoultin 100% so obvious on d2"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:26 GMT
#4884
On February 10 2015 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:24 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:22 marvellosity wrote:
can't wait till Breshke makes the wrong shot, mafia vigi hit their shot and town lose tonight

it's gonna be baller

You think I am scum AND there is a mafia vigi? How on earth does that make sense?

why not?

Mafia vigi + roles that fuck with the cop? Really? I am a greencheck remember?

goon+vigi+gf vs cop+vigi+miller

yes
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:27 GMT
#4887
oh yeah there's no medic.

that doesn't work then
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:28 GMT
#4891
i'm not, but you were absolutely certain on d2

and now you are trying to paint it as scummy that i am certain now

if you are town and you were certain

then it isn't scummy for me to be certain now, WITH THE ADDITION of an extra flip

gg
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:28 GMT
#4892
On February 10 2015 01:27 Eden1892 wrote:
marv desperately trying to make up scum PRs that balance game out with cop/vigi and don't also rule out his miller claim which is literally his only claim to innocence

how is it desperate you moron? i just forgot that we don't have a medic
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 09 2015 16:28 GMT
#4893
anyway this has become totally pointless
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 09 2015 16:29 GMT
#4894
On February 10 2015 01:27 Eden1892 wrote:
marv desperately trying to make up scum PRs that balance game out with cop/vigi and don't also rule out his miller claim which is literally his only claim to innocence

open imperial

open my filter here

compare

profit
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:30 GMT
#4895
like just do it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 09 2015 16:30 GMT
#4899
On February 10 2015 01:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
i'm not, but you were absolutely certain on d2

and now you are trying to paint it as scummy that i am certain now

if you are town and you were certain

then it isn't scummy for me to be certain now, WITH THE ADDITION of an extra flip

gg

The difference between my certainity and yours is that mine was earlier in the game and not in what is LYLO if Breshke does not shoot mafia today. And also that I had really good reasons to think what I think. I haven't seen your case on me/LS but maybe you can show it to me?!

ah sorry, so i'm certain with more information

my bad
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 09 2015 16:31 GMT
#4903
On February 10 2015 01:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:30 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
i'm not, but you were absolutely certain on d2

and now you are trying to paint it as scummy that i am certain now

if you are town and you were certain

then it isn't scummy for me to be certain now, WITH THE ADDITION of an extra flip

gg

The difference between my certainity and yours is that mine was earlier in the game and not in what is LYLO if Breshke does not shoot mafia today. And also that I had really good reasons to think what I think. I haven't seen your case on me/LS but maybe you can show it to me?!

ah sorry, so i'm certain with more information

my bad

Show me that information. Do it.

i know hf's alignment
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marvellosity
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February 09 2015 16:32 GMT
#4904
On February 10 2015 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay bats fakeclaimed cop and now claims medic. What the hell is going on other than JAT is Mafia?

literally the most obvious bus i have ever seen in my life
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February 09 2015 16:32 GMT
#4906
everyone else is clearly town
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February 09 2015 16:34 GMT
#4910
On February 10 2015 01:33 justanothertownie wrote:
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On February 10 2015 01:32 marvellosity wrote:
everyone else is clearly town

Well, then explain why this is the case if you would prefer that.

bats is playing totally to his town meta, pointless claim if mafia
rsoultin looked mega town d2
eden town
me town
breshke vigi town becase triple mylo
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marvellosity
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February 09 2015 16:35 GMT
#4912
Like literally there is this massive thing with me and HF at the end of day 2

LS comes busting out the gate with a 100% read on jat

he's literally driving a red double decker through the thread with this one
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February 09 2015 16:35 GMT
#4914
On February 10 2015 01:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:32 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay bats fakeclaimed cop and now claims medic. What the hell is going on other than JAT is Mafia?

literally the most obvious bus i have ever seen in my life

You are either playing a game that is so bad that I wonder if someone else is using your account or you are mafia. Wtf is this shit?!

"omg i am so surprised by how bad you are marv, i have to take this angle as mafia, omg!"
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February 09 2015 16:36 GMT
#4916
On February 10 2015 01:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:34 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:32 marvellosity wrote:
everyone else is clearly town

Well, then explain why this is the case if you would prefer that.

bats is playing totally to his town meta, pointless claim if mafia
rsoultin looked mega town d2
eden town
me town
breshke vigi town becase triple mylo

Rsoultin did not look "mega town". And I thought bats claim wasn't pointless if I am mafia?

bats has been town all game, i've said so all game, as have you i might add
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February 09 2015 16:37 GMT
#4918
maybe bats can have 10% mafia and LS 90% if you like

because bats/LS is still a 0% team, you are the 100%
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February 09 2015 16:37 GMT
#4919
On February 10 2015 01:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:35 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:32 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay bats fakeclaimed cop and now claims medic. What the hell is going on other than JAT is Mafia?

literally the most obvious bus i have ever seen in my life

You are either playing a game that is so bad that I wonder if someone else is using your account or you are mafia. Wtf is this shit?!

"omg i am so surprised by how bad you are marv, i have to take this angle as mafia, omg!"

Ok, marv. Assume that I am town. Even for just a second. What am I supposed to think about this then?

to assume

is to make an ass

out of u

and me
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marvellosity
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February 09 2015 16:38 GMT
#4922
if bats is actually mafia he's still mafia with you

so it doesn't matter
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February 09 2015 16:40 GMT
#4924
i said why bats/LS weren't a team before
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February 09 2015 16:40 GMT
#4926
bats has a motivation to claim a greencheck on you if you are both mafia

he has 0% motivation to fakeclaim if he and LS are mafia
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marvellosity
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February 09 2015 16:41 GMT
#4927
On February 10 2015 01:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Look marv, I am town. If you like it or not and nothing will ever change that. The fact that you aren't even considering the possibility of this is unbelievable to me. At least unbelievable if you are town.

that's because you're mafia
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February 09 2015 16:41 GMT
#4929
no-one else is mafia jat

sorry bby
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February 09 2015 16:41 GMT
#4931
i don't even know if bats is serious
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February 09 2015 16:43 GMT
#4933
i considered everyone else

they are town
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February 09 2015 16:44 GMT
#4935
ok babe xo
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February 09 2015 16:45 GMT
#4936
you already pocketed eden, i wouldn't worry too much
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February 09 2015 16:46 GMT
#4937
it's quite fun arguing with you though, i'll take the shot on LS and argue with you tomorrow too
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February 09 2015 16:46 GMT
#4938
no i take that back, eden will still be here

ABORT
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February 09 2015 16:49 GMT
#4943
On February 10 2015 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, to me it looks like it is either LS/rsoultin or LS/you. Take your pick. It is not me.

well if it's rso i think she did a great job d2 and i can just blame eden for pushing me off her all game
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February 09 2015 16:49 GMT
#4944
On February 10 2015 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:
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On February 10 2015 01:46 marvellosity wrote:
no i take that back, eden will still be here

ABORT

You are hilarious. Scummy but hilarious.

i'm never hilarious when i'm scum!
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February 09 2015 16:53 GMT
#4946
On February 10 2015 01:51 LightningStrike wrote:
marv if I not mafia who you think is mafia and why?

me+jat

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February 09 2015 16:54 GMT
#4947
no i guess it would be bats+jat
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February 09 2015 17:20 GMT
#4950
woof woof
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February 09 2015 17:21 GMT
#4952
it doesn't really matter, jat is going to be around all evening to persuade you out of it while i'm afk
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February 09 2015 17:24 GMT
#4954
I hand you my sword rsoultin

i blame eden if you're mafia
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February 09 2015 17:25 GMT
#4955
Genuinely I hope Breshke just shoots his strongest scumread. Then if that wins/loses the game then at least he shot his strongest read.
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February 09 2015 17:28 GMT
#4958
i can't, i'll be out playing chess
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February 09 2015 17:33 GMT
#4963
I'm not "coasting" just because you don't like how i play, dickwad
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February 09 2015 23:04 GMT
#5147
get at you?

as if
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February 09 2015 23:04 GMT
#5148
hi everyone
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February 09 2015 23:05 GMT
#5150
well done breshke.
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February 09 2015 23:05 GMT
#5152
did I miss anything I need to read in the last 5 hours?
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February 09 2015 23:06 GMT
#5155
yes you are
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February 09 2015 23:06 GMT
#5157
literally the worst check imaginable
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February 09 2015 23:10 GMT
#5161
honestly jat was kinda brilliant
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February 09 2015 23:12 GMT
#5164
this is really interesting.
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February 09 2015 23:13 GMT
#5165
LS, can you tell me why you were so certain jat was mafia just after I just led a mislynch on HF?
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February 09 2015 23:15 GMT
#5167
Breshke: actually jat was a really obvious frame imo

that's not the fishy bit
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February 09 2015 23:16 GMT
#5168
jat was leading the vote

5-2

when bats claimed

that's fishy.
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February 09 2015 23:19 GMT
#5170
why was bats suddenly sure it was me? and not HF?

that makes no sense
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February 09 2015 23:21 GMT
#5173
On February 10 2015 08:19 Breshke wrote:
Yeah bats is getting lynched today or tomorrow for sure.

Why do you think JAT was an obvious frame is the logic that because if i was going to shoot i was going to shoot one of them it would be unlikely the cop would check them and get a useless dead check? can't you frame towns and make them flip red.

essentially jat/koshi were the obvious frames and shots.

so if you're mafia you try to guess which one gets shot and frame the other
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February 09 2015 23:21 GMT
#5174
wait

we still have a mislynch?
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February 09 2015 23:22 GMT
#5175
omg
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February 09 2015 23:28 GMT
#5179
On February 10 2015 08:25 Breshke wrote:
I really think we win if we kill bats and LS, but then i also don't eally want to lose to marv.

RSo keen to hear what you think when you are here

it's pretty obvious i am never mafia with jat
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February 09 2015 23:41 GMT
#5182
I don't know right this minute, need time to regroup.

the timing of LS's case on jat is amazingly iffy, but so is bats' cop claim - checking you? that's the safest possible check for mafia - "oops i fucked up and checked the obvious vig instead of checking ANY OTHER TOWNIE".

There's also many pages of this game i haven't read at all yet :p
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February 09 2015 23:43 GMT
#5183
i guess i need to recheck rsoultin as well, and i guess anyone else will be rechecking me
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February 09 2015 23:44 GMT
#5185
LS it's just weird that I ml HF and your first instinct is "jat is mafia"

not "marv looks like shit"
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February 09 2015 23:46 GMT
#5186
oh I just read Eden and saw the last 2 pages of his filter was saying to shoot me

get fucked noob :D
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February 09 2015 23:48 GMT
#5189
what i found hilarious is that after HF flipped i said

"it's jat and LS"

then jat is in the thread a bit after and practically treating me as town, giving LS and rso and various other things and barely mentioning me

then the next day i'm still going hard at it and he suddenly realises he has to call me mafia

it tickled me greatly
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February 10 2015 00:00 GMT
#5192
I need it to be night, I'm only right in the night

Damdred d1 town
Koshi n1 mafia
HF d2 town
jat n2 mafia

time to break the streak
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February 10 2015 00:02 GMT
#5194
On February 10 2015 09:01 Breshke wrote:
Yeah i think it should be bats today. Looking back at the D1 vote it is completely possible that Koshi goes onto sicklucker with JAT because his wagon was gaining speed. Bats also expresses interest in joining this wagon so koshi can switch back to onegu who he is actually scum reading.

I also couldn't let myself lose to bats when he has just called me mafia the entire game and hasn't really done much else.

##Vote Bats

Thought experiment for you Breshke:

was bats just gambling you would shoot me (or some town) tonight so he could call you mafia?

because obviously if you hit mafia he is going to look pretty bad, right?
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February 10 2015 00:08 GMT
#5199
On February 10 2015 09:07 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 09:02 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 09:01 Breshke wrote:
Yeah i think it should be bats today. Looking back at the D1 vote it is completely possible that Koshi goes onto sicklucker with JAT because his wagon was gaining speed. Bats also expresses interest in joining this wagon so koshi can switch back to onegu who he is actually scum reading.

I also couldn't let myself lose to bats when he has just called me mafia the entire game and hasn't really done much else.

##Vote Bats

Thought experiment for you Breshke:

was bats just gambling you would shoot me (or some town) tonight so he could call you mafia?

because obviously if you hit mafia he is going to look pretty bad, right?


If he is mafia I don't think the plan is to ever call me mafia. It is too late for that even if i hit a town like I don't think RSo flips on me. It is possible LS does or you maybe but i doubt it. I think the check on me is a wasted check it is a safe check. I know eden told him to randomly choose between me LS and RSo but i really didn't think he would choose me

then what's the point in calling you mafia when it's just gonna make him look bad at some point
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February 10 2015 00:10 GMT
#5201
seems way more likely a town does that...

sigh
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February 10 2015 00:26 GMT
#5214
oh god i have a terrible feeling
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February 10 2015 00:28 GMT
#5218
you're town Breshke

i'm keeping shut up until i've researched the fuck out of everyone though
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February 10 2015 00:32 GMT
#5219
ok i won't keep shut up

but i'm not gonna make sweeping statements :p
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February 10 2015 00:47 GMT
#5225
no mafia should or would concede in this position, it's only 2ml, anything can happen

look at d2

one townie, one mafia on the block

it's 5-2 with the mafia leading

then the massive distraction with me comes along and the mafia gets saved
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February 10 2015 01:16 GMT
#5241
see y'all tomorrow
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February 10 2015 09:46 GMT
#5297
bats are you really retarded enough to think i could be mafia with jat?

This is a serious question. I want a serious answer as to how you think I can possibly be mafia in this spot, when

a) you understand the miller thing having been corrected on it
b) jat's flip

get to it
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February 10 2015 09:58 GMT
#5298
I may actually have to vote for bats even though I don't really think he's mafia.

if i get today's lynch wrong and he ends up in lylo with me, he'll vote against me because he's too stupid to read the game and listen.

so maybe we just have to ditch him now, and hope i'm wrong.
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February 10 2015 11:20 GMT
#5300
yes i think it's possible (despite what i said yesterday or whenever it was about her being really town)

I think if bats is mafia then he got heavily, heavily coached by jat
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February 10 2015 11:20 GMT
#5301
on the flip side, i'd feel dreadful if i lost to a mafia-bats after he's been hardpushing mafia agenda since mid-day 2
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February 10 2015 11:30 GMT
#5303
On February 10 2015 20:26 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 20:20 marvellosity wrote:
yes i think it's possible (despite what i said yesterday or whenever it was about her being really town)

I think if bats is mafia then he got heavily, heavily coached by jat


What do you mean exactly

I don't think this looks like bats' mafia game

but jat knows what bats' mafia and town games look like. He could tell him who to push and to push it hard, like "bats, pick a target on day 1 and tunnel him, because you never do that as mafia"

"make a claim day 2 with a crazy sounding theory and look like you believe in it"
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February 10 2015 11:37 GMT
#5305
who knows? why not?
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February 10 2015 11:38 GMT
#5306
you're responding to irrelevant shit
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February 10 2015 11:39 GMT
#5308
you and jat fit amazingly well together given you hard-saved him d2 then called for me to die n2.

you still need to answer why you are voting for me.
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February 10 2015 11:42 GMT
#5310
I am the miller

Presence of miller doesn't mean there's a cop

Palmar and I put a single mason in Carol of the Bells. Hosts do that you know.
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February 10 2015 11:42 GMT
#5311
like the poor guy literally had a QT to himself.
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February 10 2015 11:47 GMT
#5314
what info?
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February 10 2015 11:48 GMT
#5315
like that's literally a baseless statement in its entirety
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February 10 2015 11:50 GMT
#5316
what i would say is that it's very very risky to claim cop when there's a miller in the game.

that's the strongest point in your favour
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February 10 2015 11:57 GMT
#5318
there wouldn't be a framer in the world you're fakeclaiming, numbnuts
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February 10 2015 11:57 GMT
#5319
or at least the "frame" on jat would be fake
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February 10 2015 11:58 GMT
#5321
because there's obviously not a roleblocker?

the last role could be godfather?

stop being ridiculous!
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February 10 2015 11:58 GMT
#5322
like anything is possible.
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February 10 2015 11:59 GMT
#5323
I may have to lynch you to stop you throwing the game in case I get the wrong answer today

it's as simple as that
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February 10 2015 12:00 GMT
#5324
Like the setup could be

goon-goon-goon

vs vigi-miller--------------
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February 10 2015 12:02 GMT
#5326
you're just awful.
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February 10 2015 12:02 GMT
#5327
i don't comprehend how anyone can be so bad at reading
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February 10 2015 12:06 GMT
#5329
no, i only don't comprehend how terrible you are

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 12:07 GMT
#5330
if you think i'm mafia in this spot, you should just stop playing mafia ever again, because you're never going to be competent
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 12:10 GMT
#5333
ah ok, you don't play to win. cool.

##vote: bats
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 12:11 GMT
#5334
this is pure policy
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 12:21 GMT
#5335
On February 10 2015 11:02 rsoultin wrote:
him not wanting to contribute doesn't look good at all, and the fact that he shot my comment down when I said I thought you or ls should have conceded already if you were scum

this is a monumentally bad post
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 12:31 GMT
#5336
jat's filter is a god-damn minefield
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 12:33 GMT
#5337
On February 09 2015 17:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Rsoultin is "probably mafia" because she is too right if that makes sense. Remember when literally everyone said my case was awesome (because it was)? She did not only say "meh not that good" but she immediately ridiculed the case for being awful. Why? Because she knew it was wrong. If marv is town same story - everyone thought he was scum because he claimed scum. Only rsoultin still thought he was town. This could be a legit case of too much information.


The problem is I had thought those things about rsoultin myself when I was just flicking through her filter.

And here's jat saying it.

Ugh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 12:52 GMT
#5338
Guess I'll go read LS's filter in a bit. Some interesting/maybe not interesting things I gleaned from jat's filter:

At some point around the start of day 2, jat starts hard-scumreading rsoultin. Actually there's never a reason given for this, other than "she is forgettable and PoE". But jat is *convinced* that HF/rsoultin are the two mafia. But of course we lynch HF first...

His filter also reminded me that Koshi attacked rsoultin for terrible reasons. What Koshi said about rsoultin could absolutely be a bus. Because - Koshi was convinced that rsoultin confusing him for LM made rsoultin mafia, even though he couldn't explain why at all. It just "wasn't a mistake a townie makes" and therefore it came from mafia. If Koshi is mafia with rsoultin, then Koshi is attacking rsoultin for a really terrible mistake and with conviction because Koshi knows she is mafia. I would add that jat also attacked Koshi for his poor reasoning.

The most interesting thing, though, is the combination of these. So Koshi gets shot and flips mafia. The dude who made a terrible hardpush on rsoultin for bad reasons. But jat never takes this into account on his read of rsoultin. rsoultin is "confirmed mafia" even though the flipped mafia was attacking rsoultin for terrible reasons. That's really fascinating. That also indicates bus to me.

I don't quite know what to make of jat's hardpush to get LS shot. If LS is town, then town has to lynch jat+rsoultin in a row or lose. Who are they going to mislynch? Me? bats? Possible I guess? If LS flips mafia, then jat looks better and maybe he can push through my lynch the next day, meaning town would have to lynch jat in LYLO. This very lightly suggests to me that LS might be mafia, but it's conjecture.

All of this is just theorising for now, I haven't read LS's filter yet.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 13:17 GMT
#5339
On February 04 2015 19:58 marvellosity wrote:
1 Breshke - looks kinda townie maybe?
2 Eden1892 - bad but very townie
3 rsoultin - ehhhh, doesn't look great
4 LightningStrike - looks terrible but doesn't necessarily make him mafia
5 Onegu - looks kinda ok?
6 Damdred - looks mafia
7 Palmar - seems townie
8 marvellosity - really nice bottom
9 sicklucker - eh? play mang...
10 batsnacks - i'd guess town, weakly
11 Koshi - shrug
12 Holyflare - looked townie to me so far
13 justanothertownie - absent. worrying

aside from Damdy i should have trusted my early early reads far more :< talked myself into scumreads at some point on like all the people I said looked ok/good (bresh, onegu, HF). boo me.

P.S. i am not looking through my own filter, found this in jat's :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 13:31 GMT
#5341
On February 10 2015 22:26 rsoultin wrote:
Again with the awesome case nonsense? There was nothing awesome about that case, aside from it was nice and long and sounded good if you didn't bother to actually think about what it was saying.


No the point is that you had a different reaction to all the other townies.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 13:32 GMT
#5342
sorry dear, I gotta consider everything today.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 13:33 GMT
#5343
It dawned on me earlier that Saturday would be EoD next day phase and I am away all weekend.

So I cannot get today wrong.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 13:34 GMT
#5344
On February 10 2015 22:26 rsoultin wrote:
Again with the awesome case nonsense? There was nothing awesome about that case, aside from it was nice and long and sounded good if you didn't bother to actually think about what it was saying.

And why the hell does anything jat does or doesn't take into account mean anything when he's mafia? If he's trying to convince everyone that he is town he literally has no choice but to scumread me. Calling bats scum calls into question the green check. Who else is he supposed to call scum? Breshke? Eden? You? LS and I were his only options, and it's not like he's going to get me shot overnight. He only changed his read on you when Eden started frothing at the mouth and it actually looked like a possible out.

he was hard scumreading you pre-the bats claim
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 13:50 GMT
#5347
On February 10 2015 22:43 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 22:34 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 22:26 rsoultin wrote:
Again with the awesome case nonsense? There was nothing awesome about that case, aside from it was nice and long and sounded good if you didn't bother to actually think about what it was saying.

And why the hell does anything jat does or doesn't take into account mean anything when he's mafia? If he's trying to convince everyone that he is town he literally has no choice but to scumread me. Calling bats scum calls into question the green check. Who else is he supposed to call scum? Breshke? Eden? You? LS and I were his only options, and it's not like he's going to get me shot overnight. He only changed his read on you when Eden started frothing at the mouth and it actually looked like a possible out.

he was hard scumreading you pre-the bats claim


Lol what is he supposed to do? His defense was laughable. Did you even read it? I suppose you could think that he'd already resigned himself to being the lynch (though I don't know why you'd think that) and so we were double-bussing to try to look at odds, but if that's the case why is he calling me 100% scum?

why not? i don't understand what you're getting at here.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 13:51 GMT
#5348
You do realise bats is pretty likely town, right?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:09 GMT
#5357
On February 10 2015 22:59 rsoultin wrote:
Marv, if you think bats is town, and you're voting for him anyway, you're the one throwing the game. You just said you're not going to be here at EoD yet you're going to vote a "likely town" just to survive?

it's obviously just a spite vote at this point.

Do you think mafia claims cop when there is a claimed miller in the game??
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:11 GMT
#5359
On February 10 2015 22:57 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 22:50 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 22:43 rsoultin wrote:
On February 10 2015 22:34 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 22:26 rsoultin wrote:
Again with the awesome case nonsense? There was nothing awesome about that case, aside from it was nice and long and sounded good if you didn't bother to actually think about what it was saying.

And why the hell does anything jat does or doesn't take into account mean anything when he's mafia? If he's trying to convince everyone that he is town he literally has no choice but to scumread me. Calling bats scum calls into question the green check. Who else is he supposed to call scum? Breshke? Eden? You? LS and I were his only options, and it's not like he's going to get me shot overnight. He only changed his read on you when Eden started frothing at the mouth and it actually looked like a possible out.

he was hard scumreading you pre-the bats claim


Lol what is he supposed to do? His defense was laughable. Did you even read it? I suppose you could think that he'd already resigned himself to being the lynch (though I don't know why you'd think that) and so we were double-bussing to try to look at odds, but if that's the case why is he calling me 100% scum?

why not? i don't understand what you're getting at here.


Saying anyone is 100% or definitely scum, lynch them tomorrow, or 100% town when you're scum just throws them into the limelight when you flip. I'd expect him to hedge if he was bussing.

jat hard townread bats all game.................
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 14:11 GMT
#5360
oh get a grip rsoultin

and answer my question
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:14 GMT
#5362
On February 10 2015 23:12 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 23:09 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 22:59 rsoultin wrote:
Marv, if you think bats is town, and you're voting for him anyway, you're the one throwing the game. You just said you're not going to be here at EoD yet you're going to vote a "likely town" just to survive?

it's obviously just a spite vote at this point.

Do you think mafia claims cop when there is a claimed miller in the game??


Marv, all you're convincing me of right now is that I was probably way too quick to accept your claim on faith.

so bats is town because mafia don't claim cop when there's a claimed miller.

Correct?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:15 GMT
#5364
you said

"mafia hedge their bets, they don't hard townread their buddy"

I say

"jat hard townread bats all game"

i think you can see what i'm getting at just fine
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 14:16 GMT
#5368
Now we've made progress.

So you should be choosing between LS and me.

I'm enjoying having to explain this to you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:17 GMT
#5369
On February 10 2015 23:16 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 23:15 marvellosity wrote:
you said

"mafia hedge their bets, they don't hard townread their buddy"

I say

"jat hard townread bats all game"

i think you can see what i'm getting at just fine


lol, I see you're picking at things without taking context into consideration just fine xP

jat never had to hard townread bats from the start of the game.

that is the context.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:18 GMT
#5371
On February 10 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Ugh I just woke up and saw this whole mess. I seeing 2 people voting bats. This going to be interesting.
Rsoultin why you voting Bats?
Marv: Why you policy lynching Bats the Day Phase before LYLO?


Honestly? I wanted his answer as to why he was voting marv, which he refused to give, and he's been at the top of my scumlist since the day phase started. I'm probably going to unvote him, though, with marv deciding to vote a townread. That just makes my skin itch.

I've been waffling on you all game, LS. Sometimes you look really townie to me, and other times you're just playing so differently I doubt myself. Bah.

Like, this is really terrible rsoultin.

WHAT MAFIA DOES THIS?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:19 GMT
#5372
I call someone town, vote him, and then tell other people they shouldn't be voting him?

And you think mafia does that?

Are you *serious*?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:20 GMT
#5376
On February 10 2015 22:54 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 22:51 marvellosity wrote:
You do realise bats is pretty likely town, right?


No? I know I thought his claim seemed townie at the time. But the reasons you're giving are meta, and you're voting for him anyway. And his reason for voting you flat-out denies that anyone could possibly think he's scum. I don't know him that well, but I don't think he's that stupid.

you said this in the thread when i had already explained about mafia fakeclaiming cop when there was a miller.

sup son?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:21 GMT
#5377
who are you going to vote, LightningStrike?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:23 GMT
#5380
I'm not being an idiot in the slightest.

No mafia counterclaims miller, you're right.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:23 GMT
#5382
Like I vote bats out of spite and then I go searching through mafia filters for information and tell people not to vote for him.

This is obviously a townie thought process.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:24 GMT
#5383
On February 10 2015 23:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I having a hard time between rsoultin and bats assuming you are really the Miller marv. I know it's possible to have a Miller with no Cops in a game esp after Carol where we only had 1 Mason lol....

Did you not read my explanation about why bats is likely town?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:24 GMT
#5386
I said it about 2 pages before this point in the thread.

so stop being silly.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:25 GMT
#5387
On February 10 2015 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 23:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I having a hard time between rsoultin and bats assuming you are really the Miller marv. I know it's possible to have a Miller with no Cops in a game esp after Carol where we only had 1 Mason lol....

Did you not read my explanation about why bats is likely town?

^^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:26 GMT
#5389
no it's not ridiculous. No mafia would ever go about it like that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:27 GMT
#5390
there's a significant difference between me voting bats ----> afk and voting bats and then thinking about the game.

which i think you can well understand.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:30 GMT
#5395
maybe bats.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:31 GMT
#5396
If LS is mafia, his mafia game is 1000x better than in Student IV, though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:31 GMT
#5397
which is, i'd add, perfectly possible as he was very new then. Still.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 14:33 GMT
#5400
On February 10 2015 23:32 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
If LS is mafia, his mafia game is 1000x better than in Student IV, though.


Yeah but it's still very similar. Once his allies die he sheeps the strong townie.

he does this as town I think? I'll have to recheck but I'm sure I remember a game where he's just following votes around

could be misremembering, and the database isn't up to date
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:36 GMT
#5403
On February 10 2015 23:32 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
If LS is mafia, his mafia game is 1000x better than in Student IV, though.


Yeah but it's still very similar. Once his allies die he sheeps the strong townie.

also this isn't quite right, because the game looks like this

people should be voting:

Breshke - LS, rsou, (marv)
bats - LS, rsou, (marv)
marv - LS, rsou
LS - rsou, (marv)
rsou - LS, (marv)

so for the bottom 2, the dye is already cast
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:42 GMT
#5407
On February 10 2015 23:41 batsnacks wrote:
Also I went back and looked at rs's rebuttal of jat's case and I don't think she did that as mafia.

I think the direct opposite.

Just opened Carol, first thing I notice is that LS's filter is already 7 pages longer in this game than when he was town in that game :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:45 GMT
#5410
it looks good for you on filter length, silly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:50 GMT
#5413
On February 10 2015 23:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 23:45 marvellosity wrote:
it looks good for you on filter length, silly.

I misread your comment but did you forget that Carol had a posting limit?

yes, i did actually. thanks lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 14:50 GMT
#5414
On December 18 2014 12:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry sicklucker I still town read you but I think Rsoultins case on Glowbear has better ground than Glowbear's case on HF
##Unvote
##Vote: Glowingbear


On December 20 2014 03:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly Rsoultin I think we better for Templar since it's clear not a lot people want to vote GB and the case from HF on Templar is pretty damning.
##Unvote
##:Vote: The_Templar


On December 20 2014 07:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry rsoultin I was just getting Egg Nog and I like the tubesock train a lot. Idk if we can get enough votes for him but I will try!
##Unvote
##Vote: Tubesock



On December 23 2014 00:42 LightningStrike wrote:
You know now I see the light in the darkness we must get rid of HF to determine who wins.
##Vote: HolyFlare


On December 23 2014 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Holy hell that is a very long essay HF and honestly that making want to turn back on to Templar.
##Unvote
##Vote The_Templar


On December 23 2014 07:01 LightningStrike wrote:
I going with just go for HTS with HF and sicklucker despite it stinging more than it should but sometimes life gives you lemons.
##Unvote
##Vote Half the Sky


On December 23 2014 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 23 2014 07:01 LightningStrike wrote:
I going with just go for HTS with HF and sicklucker despite it stinging more than it should but sometimes life gives you lemons.
##Unvote
##Vote Half the Sky


HE JUST CLAIMED NIGELLA
HE
JUST
CLAIMED
NIGELLA
TITTY SAVIOUR

When I made the post I didn't see the claim but now I see the claim and who he protected Night 2 I believe him because everything made sense on why ritoky made such a weird claim on the bullet.
##Unvote
##Vote Holyflare


Like the bottom 4 posts are all in a row....

LS just goes where the wind takes him, often on just a whim and following people around
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 15:01 GMT
#5415
Anyway, I'm going to flip the coin, and look at the other side for now.

So at the start of the game LS went at Eden for some unknown reason, and it was really weird.

I think if he's mafia he doesn't do this on his own, and as per my comments from earlier it would have had to have been coached. Which is possible.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 15:04 GMT
#5417
On February 04 2015 14:01 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW I am VT if anyone cares I wanted Cop again >.<

^ means he can never ever fakeclaim
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 15:04 GMT
#5418
LS, surprisingly I am reading your filter from the beginning, so yes that would be Day 1 :p
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 15:23 GMT
#5420
On February 07 2015 08:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Hmm I really hate this exchange from Koshi and rsoultin:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 08:22 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:22 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:20 Onegu wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:18 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:16 Breshke wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 08:11 marvellosity wrote:
also i'm late to the party because i was literally doing my hair.


Does that also have to do with the se(a)men?

Two millers. That should be it, right?


Nevermind lol. We can all be millers.


Are you claiming miller aswell?


Nope. I just realized there's no cap on the roles.

I still want to do the thunderdome thing though. Can I be an honorary miller?



Does this mean you will flip red on checks?


As red as you bby

awkward joke noted down

Like idk if she was joking or not but Koshi comment on saying it was a awkward joke might have some newer meanings for us.

I just don't know if LightningStrike is capable of this sort of post as mafia. I really don't

Also:
On February 07 2015 08:47 Holyflare wrote:
Actually Yeh that joke wasn't as awkward as koshi implied it to be so could potentially be mafia picking on mafia joke
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 15:28 GMT
#5421
That whole line from LS is very townie, it carries on for several posts
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 15:35 GMT
#5423
LS going after Eden d2 makes him look good too. arg
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 15:36 GMT
#5424
On February 09 2015 09:48 LightningStrike wrote:
There is a GF in this game Breshke so ofc the GF will appear green when checked by a cop so that means that JAT is most likely the GF.

^ also don't think LS is this artful...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 15:38 GMT
#5425
On February 10 2015 09:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Also there is no way JAT would be seen green on a real cop check so therefore I think bats is mafia because only GF would appear green to a Cop check and JAT was a goon not a GF.

^ same argument
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2015 15:43 GMT
#5426
##Vote: rsoultin

This is where I stand at the moment. I think a lot of the bizarre interactions between mafia lend themselves to rsoultin being mafia. The whole Koshi/rs/jat stuff on n1->d2 especially. Additionally, going back to check Carol reminds me of how town leader-y rsoultin was in that game. She was powerful and persuasive (if wrong). This game she is neither powerful nor persuasive, she's more of a backseat passenger.

Reading LS's filter, frankly it just looks quite town to me. The timing of the jat case which I jumped on at the time was nowhere near as bad as I thought. For some reason I remembered it coming right at EoD when it came the next day, not sure what happened there. And I think there are some gems in LS's filter that I can't see him replicating as mafia. Whereas I think rsoultin can replicate everything she did as mafia.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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February 10 2015 16:11 GMT
#5427
LS are you still around?
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 16:26 GMT
#5429
how confident are you that I am town?
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 16:30 GMT
#5431
But you were willing to vote for me at some point on Day 2. What changed to solidify your read?
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 16:37 GMT
#5434
Thanks, that's fine for now.

Breshke, when you read this. Prod me to talk about stuff I'm thinking here if I forget later when you're around.
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 21:19 GMT
#5439
On February 11 2015 04:12 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 11 2015 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: rsoultin

This is where I stand at the moment. I think a lot of the bizarre interactions between mafia lend themselves to rsoultin being mafia. The whole Koshi/rs/jat stuff on n1->d2 especially. Additionally, going back to check Carol reminds me of how town leader-y rsoultin was in that game. She was powerful and persuasive (if wrong). This game she is neither powerful nor persuasive, she's more of a backseat passenger.

Reading LS's filter, frankly it just looks quite town to me. The timing of the jat case which I jumped on at the time was nowhere near as bad as I thought. For some reason I remembered it coming right at EoD when it came the next day, not sure what happened there. And I think there are some gems in LS's filter that I can't see him replicating as mafia. Whereas I think rsoultin can replicate everything she did as mafia.


You're either stuck in confirmation bias or misrepresenting things on purpose again. Read any of my town games. I am "town-leadery" in the absence of town leadership. There was nothing leadery about me until most of the vets were slaughtered in Carol. I took the reigns of the newbie game almost instantly, but certainly haven't led any of my town games since, with the exception of protoss where I had a red-check and was confirmed.

Koshi was hardly the only one who commented on my joke. Just because he's mafia and they weren't it conveniently becomes a scumslip?

These things are being twisted to suit your predisposition to see me lynched today. And don't think it escapes me, marv, that if you're scum I am absolutely your biggest threat going into LYLO.

I have plenty to say about this when Breshke is around :>

i've written bats off as a lost cause
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 21:24 GMT
#5440
also, please - predisposition to see you lynched today?

I had you town during the night phase and I've scoured jat and Koshi's filter, as well as your own and LS's.

What I have is literally the opposite of a predisposition to lynch you today.
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 21:25 GMT
#5441
and if I'm mafia, quite obviously bats is my biggest threat because he's naturally predisposed against me (now that's correct use of predisposed).

none of this is what i'm gonna talk to breshke about, but it's there anyway
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 21:46 GMT
#5443
heya
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February 10 2015 21:56 GMT
#5445
On February 10 2015 23:36 marvellosity wrote:
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On February 10 2015 23:32 batsnacks wrote:
On February 10 2015 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
If LS is mafia, his mafia game is 1000x better than in Student IV, though.


Yeah but it's still very similar. Once his allies die he sheeps the strong townie.

also this isn't quite right, because the game looks like this

people should be voting:

Breshke - LS, rsou, (marv)
bats - LS, rsou, (marv)
marv - LS, rsou
LS - rsou, (marv)
rsou - LS, (marv)

so for the bottom 2, the dye is already cast

So it's related to this. Remember the twaddle Eden came out with about mafia being inactive because of some random theoretical discussions that happened outside this game? Well, that's not that, it's related to this game and above.

so obviously the stuff above is based on the fact that if you're mafia and you shot 2 scumbuddies you're gonna win and whatever, and I thought bats was town all game and fakeclaiming cop when there's a miller seems really risky, so gotta take the punt that he's town, which leaves the above.

Anyway since the modkills and since you shot Koshi, the breathing room for mafia has been restricting faster and faster. Lots of the "scummy" townies died, and hero-vig shot multiple mafia.

We saw the first instance of this breathing room evaporating during the night phase, where jat was pretty certain I was town at one stage, and then when I'm relentlessly keeping on him, he's basically forced to call me mafia. It's not even a mistake for him to do it, because he needs outs and he's running out of outs.

Today the situation is even clearer - my post above. I'm essentially choosing between rsou and LS, and they really have to choose between each other with a side of me. It's the main reason that I trapped rsoultin earlier in the phase and made her admit that bats was very likely town - I needed the net to close and make things clear.

Now, whichever of rsoultin or LS is mafia, they need two mislynches. Each other's not enough. I've closed the door on bats. This means that by necessity I will need to be the next mislynch, because going back to bats is very difficult after what I said today.

So what have we got? LS seemed ok to close the door on bats, with no particular qualms, I don't see anything unnatural about it (other than usual LS hilarious weirdness which is nothing). rsoultin is in a different spot. Can't go for bats anymore. She's been calling my miller thing preeeetty ironclad, which frankly it is. Not only that, but she set her stall out before that I'm town for gameplay reasons. But now again the net is closing, and we have the jat situation repeating again. She is forced to call me mafia.

Why is she forced? Because if she sticks to the (totally correct) idea that my miller claim makes me pretty lock town, and sticks to the idea that I'm town, then she'd also have to be ok with rsoultin and LS being lynched in a row which locks up the game for town (that's the situation I am in personally). But she can't be ok with that because that doesn't work for mafia.

So on the one hand LS is calling me 100% town. And on the other rsoultin is forced to try to open the door to lynching me, after I closed the door on lynching bats.
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 21:56 GMT
#5446
yeah that's what it was about
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 21:58 GMT
#5447
slight edit - "She is forced to call me mafia." - obviously she isn't outright doing this at this point, what I mean is, she's forced to open that door
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 22:10 GMT
#5449
then it has to be LS. I just don't think it is.

Maybe 80-19 and you and bats can have 1 split between you
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 22:11 GMT
#5450
if I'm right though, that's totes the best post in the game.
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 22:14 GMT
#5451
essentially if i don't get it right today, and you get killed during the night, i'm doomed at lylo. so we have to be right today imo.
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 22:21 GMT
#5454
On February 11 2015 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: rsoultin

This is where I stand at the moment. I think a lot of the bizarre interactions between mafia lend themselves to rsoultin being mafia. The whole Koshi/rs/jat stuff on n1->d2 especially. Additionally, going back to check Carol reminds me of how town leader-y rsoultin was in that game. She was powerful and persuasive (if wrong). This game she is neither powerful nor persuasive, she's more of a backseat passenger.

Reading LS's filter, frankly it just looks quite town to me. The timing of the jat case which I jumped on at the time was nowhere near as bad as I thought. For some reason I remembered it coming right at EoD when it came the next day, not sure what happened there. And I think there are some gems in LS's filter that I can't see him replicating as mafia. Whereas I think rsoultin can replicate everything she did as mafia.

I admit I'm not completely certain, I don't know how I can be expected to be.

But I think there's a difference between uncertainty and stuff, and the necessity for mafia to reintroduce me to the lynch discussion. rsoultin actually has nothing except "you're calling me mafia"

Also, see bolded: I think I set my stall out quite clearly on what I think the solution is.

Whereas rsoultin should absolutely be going for LS today, LS should be a near banker for her given everything that she has said about me, especially the miller stuff. But that's not how it reads is it?
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 22:22 GMT
#5455
What I'm saying about the bolded is, I've gone through both their filters, and in the case of LS there are multiple things that I don't think coming from a mafia-LS, and I've explicitly commented on them, and come to a conclusion on them.
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 22:25 GMT
#5456
For reference - if you want to argue with me that LS is mafia, I want you to discuss with me the things I brought up in LS's filter that I think make him town.

like the stuff about the mafia roles, forgetting framer, all that stuff i don't think he's artful enough for
going after eden mid-day 2
picking up on the rsoultin-koshi joke thing (whether it's correct or not is beside the point, it's that he found it and commented and pushed it)
Also I accept LS's point about the fact he was coached in his last mafia game, and even if he was coached here he's done infinitely better.
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 23:04 GMT
#5458
oki koki
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 23:55 GMT
#5460
that was gloriously predictable, thanks rsoul <3

never changed my opinion on the miller claim.
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marvellosity
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February 10 2015 23:57 GMT
#5463
btw rsoultin, it's not the same at all.

Breshke: "I really think it's bats"
LS: "the bats claims make no sense, he's mafia"
rsoultin: "vote: bats"

I *removed* someone from the table that literally everyone else was suspicious of at once.

But sure babe, i'm trying to OPEN up my options.
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:00 GMT
#5465
of course it was
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:01 GMT
#5467
On February 10 2015 10:24 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 10 2015 10:16 batsnacks wrote:
On February 10 2015 10:11 rsoultin wrote:
where did your theory come from, bats?

you were perfectly fine saying that you were wrong and bresh was blue when he first claimed


breshke claimed n1. My theory was d2.


okay, but what was your theory based on? breshke being alive and not rb'd? if you're town, bats, you have to help me out here because I'm having a really hard time finding a reason not to lynch you

Definitely policy
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:01 GMT
#5469
definitely not "I want to lynch bats this cycle but i'm pussyfooting around it", but policy. gotcha
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:05 GMT
#5471
On February 10 2015 22:54 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 10 2015 22:51 marvellosity wrote:
You do realise bats is pretty likely town, right?


No? I know I thought his claim seemed townie at the time. But the reasons you're giving are meta, and you're voting for him anyway. And his reason for voting you flat-out denies that anyone could possibly think he's scum. I don't know him that well, but I don't think he's that stupid.

Here rsoultin is very much trying to keep bats on the table
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:06 GMT
#5472
On February 11 2015 09:05 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 11 2015 08:55 Breshke wrote:
I really like what marv is saying and it doesn't really matter what his alignment is because he almost certainly gets lynched next day phase.

On February 05 2015 07:57 rsoultin wrote:
On February 05 2015 07:54 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 05 2015 07:49 rsoultin wrote:
Busy with separation exercises the military puts us through to make sure we're not homeless.

If you've got questions ask, already asked them quote, cause I probably won't get a chance to read anything in depth until later tonight.

What are your town and mafia reads rn


Based on last night,

LS I'm not sure on, but leaning town
SL could be mafia
Koshi who the hell knows what he's doing, possible mafia
Like bats, but he needs to explain his reads more
Bresh is leaning town


This post is strange looking back on it. You call koshi possible mafia here RSo yet before this you mention him maybe twice and it is never about his alignment just someone elves motives on reading him. Then after this post you basically do not interact with koshi at all. I don't think town rsoultin does this. You have someone as possible mafia you would try and discern their alignment.

I also find your vote at the end of D1 concerning since yeah you said you were going to sheep eden and eden was on koshi and you didn't vote koshi but voted onegu when eden swapped. I could see this as a coincidence as town but koshi was on onegus wagon and this didn't even seem to give you pause and you don't even seem tor register it.


You do realize I voted Onegu before koshi did, in the very last few minutes?

I'd barely had time to engage with anyone Day 1. As I've said multiple times, scum me for being inactive if you like, but that's all this means.

You sound like jat!
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:07 GMT
#5473
On February 11 2015 09:05 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 22:54 rsoultin wrote:
On February 10 2015 22:51 marvellosity wrote:
You do realise bats is pretty likely town, right?


No? I know I thought his claim seemed townie at the time. But the reasons you're giving are meta, and you're voting for him anyway. And his reason for voting you flat-out denies that anyone could possibly think he's scum. I don't know him that well, but I don't think he's that stupid.

Here rsoultin is very much trying to keep bats on the table

tbh this is an immensely strong point.
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:08 GMT
#5475
On February 11 2015 09:01 Breshke wrote:
like if you flip town im going to feel like an ass

If rsoultin flips town, explain to LS again that bats is extremely likely town. I don't think you'll have to convince bats very much.
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:09 GMT
#5476
A pressure vote 270 pages in? alright
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:10 GMT
#5478
lol. keep it coming.
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:11 GMT
#5479
On February 11 2015 09:05 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 22:54 rsoultin wrote:
On February 10 2015 22:51 marvellosity wrote:
You do realise bats is pretty likely town, right?


No? I know I thought his claim seemed townie at the time. But the reasons you're giving are meta, and you're voting for him anyway. And his reason for voting you flat-out denies that anyone could possibly think he's scum. I don't know him that well, but I don't think he's that stupid.

Here rsoultin is very much trying to keep bats on the table

like here you are pushing back at me calling bats town

don't just give me this "it's only a pressure vote" nonsense
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:14 GMT
#5483
yes, thank you for noticing

I'm willing to go all-in on people being town, and force others (i.e. you) to call people town, so that mafia (you) don't have other outs.
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:15 GMT
#5484
On February 11 2015 09:14 rsoultin wrote:
you want the entire thread to think that the only person who I could possibly vote for today is ls, so you can say haha see, she scumread me, she must be scum

In fairness I did put me in brackets.

So are you going back on the miller thing making me town then?
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:16 GMT
#5485
On February 11 2015 07:25 marvellosity wrote:
For reference - if you want to argue with me that LS is mafia, I want you to discuss with me the things I brought up in LS's filter that I think make him town.

like the stuff about the mafia roles, forgetting framer, all that stuff i don't think he's artful enough for
going after eden mid-day 2
picking up on the rsoultin-koshi joke thing (whether it's correct or not is beside the point, it's that he found it and commented and pushed it)
Also I accept LS's point about the fact he was coached in his last mafia game, and even if he was coached here he's done infinitely better.

Also please feel free to engage with me on all these points

I'm listening
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:18 GMT
#5487
I'm not bullying anyone.

I'm literally just putting forth my points.

Your tone is duly noted
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:19 GMT
#5489
no, you didn't engage, you just snarked

do you agree with what I said on LS or not?
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:20 GMT
#5490
I didn't ask you to paraphrase or interpret what I said, I asked you for your opinion on those specific things
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:24 GMT
#5492
Got 22.5 hours, I can wait.
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:29 GMT
#5495
Like, I don't think the way I went after rsoultin today has been in any way unfair, and she is making out like i'm ridiculous.

I went through filters.

I got the thread to realise bats was town.

Then I went back to rsoul's/LS's filter and I produced several things that LS did that I think strongly indicate he was town, and I just couldn't do the same for rsoultin.

None of this is being unreasonable but she's in here shouting at me as a bully and I'm really scummy for thinking like this. I don't think any of how I've gone about this is remotely scummy.
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:30 GMT
#5497
On February 11 2015 09:27 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 09:16 marvellosity wrote:
On February 11 2015 07:25 marvellosity wrote:
For reference - if you want to argue with me that LS is mafia, I want you to discuss with me the things I brought up in LS's filter that I think make him town.

like the stuff about the mafia roles, forgetting framer, all that stuff i don't think he's artful enough for
going after eden mid-day 2
picking up on the rsoultin-koshi joke thing (whether it's correct or not is beside the point, it's that he found it and commented and pushed it)
Also I accept LS's point about the fact he was coached in his last mafia game, and even if he was coached here he's done infinitely better.

Also please feel free to engage with me on all these points

I'm listening


These two points are the better ones. The others are blah. Saying he's not artful enough is just saying he's bad (the source of my snark) and the rsoultin-koshi joke thing means nothing if he's a mafia partner with koshi. Obviously he had scum partners who could help him with how to post in this game (something he didn't actually have in our Student game, because both of his partners were AWOL) so he could feasibly do better as scum here than several games ago playing essentially alone, and to suggest otherwise is naïve.

This is incorrect as LS mentioned himself, mafia had a coach in the Student games.
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:31 GMT
#5499
You have to tell me how that process I went through is scummy though. You're the one attacking me heavily for it. I've gone about it in a very evenhanded way and I challenge you to show me otherwise.
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:32 GMT
#5501
On February 11 2015 09:31 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 09:30 marvellosity wrote:
On February 11 2015 09:27 rsoultin wrote:
On February 11 2015 09:16 marvellosity wrote:
On February 11 2015 07:25 marvellosity wrote:
For reference - if you want to argue with me that LS is mafia, I want you to discuss with me the things I brought up in LS's filter that I think make him town.

like the stuff about the mafia roles, forgetting framer, all that stuff i don't think he's artful enough for
going after eden mid-day 2
picking up on the rsoultin-koshi joke thing (whether it's correct or not is beside the point, it's that he found it and commented and pushed it)
Also I accept LS's point about the fact he was coached in his last mafia game, and even if he was coached here he's done infinitely better.

Also please feel free to engage with me on all these points

I'm listening


These two points are the better ones. The others are blah. Saying he's not artful enough is just saying he's bad (the source of my snark) and the rsoultin-koshi joke thing means nothing if he's a mafia partner with koshi. Obviously he had scum partners who could help him with how to post in this game (something he didn't actually have in our Student game, because both of his partners were AWOL) so he could feasibly do better as scum here than several games ago playing essentially alone, and to suggest otherwise is naïve.

This is incorrect as LS mentioned himself, mafia had a coach in the Student games.


It is correct. Read it again.

*rolls eyes* so he had afk partners, but he had a coach. whatever.
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:36 GMT
#5503
Then you probably shouldn't be swearing at me and saying I'm bullying you then, I've quite obviously done no such thing.

You do your thang, lady.
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:40 GMT
#5505
I've done it in its entirety, I've gone through his entire filter and presented what I found. I don't know what else you want from me.
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:44 GMT
#5506
"I know you have probably done this" - like I've talked about LS loads today, cmon bro >.>
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:45 GMT
#5507
If you hadn't shot 2 mafia I would be suspicious of you for that line
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:52 GMT
#5509
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:56 GMT
#5512
Thank you hosts.

mafia get rekt
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 00:58 GMT
#5513
thank you breshke for the hard carry.

super happy to be right when it mattered though
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 01:00 GMT
#5516
On February 11 2015 09:58 rsoultin wrote:
xP lol

you said you had a terrible feeling

I knew then I was in trouble lol...also so hating on my work hours in relation to EoD this game -_-

yeah it all suddenly became clear to me...

but i had to do the work to check too
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 01:02 GMT
#5518
Breshke, your n2 shot was ballsy as fuck. Don't think I ever saw a better vig shot.
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 01:07 GMT
#5521
I was ready for you bbygrl <3

I appreciate the fight all game though.

Thank Eden for your hard-defence all game for me :p
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marvellosity
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February 11 2015 01:31 GMT
#5530
On February 11 2015 10:24 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 11 2015 10:07 marvellosity wrote:
I was ready for you bbygrl <3

I appreciate the fight all game though.

Thank Eden for your hard-defence all game for me :p


lol <3

I still think calling bats as the cop and pushing jat to force him to claim was the most fun part of the game for me xP

suggestions for playing scum other than I just suck at it? lol (I fully realize I had the most trouble in the world scumreading anyone town ><)

Not really, because I suffer from the same problem, it is really quite hard. I suggest reading an HF scumgame or two.

also you didn't suck at scum at all. you're always going to have suspicion on you at some point, and you got a lot of townreads.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2015 10:06 GMT
#5600
On February 11 2015 14:10 Holyflare wrote:
and marv only called me 100% mafia because he didn't read the thread at all and instead looked at the vote thread !

yes.

I never even read like a massive swathe of pages around that part of the game.

Oops.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 10:24:50
February 11 2015 10:07 GMT
#5601
On February 11 2015 14:48 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 12:29 Breshke wrote:
I think i actually played fairly bad and was lucky i was blue.

I also don't think claiming when i did was as good as i thought it was at the time


You doubt yourself - you did great You were town MVP this game.

I was still lost for the third scum. Bats and his fakeclaims and checking you - but hey I'm still a noob.

GG

Edit: Mafia QT/Docs of shots?

LS/others - Stop with so much meta - let it go, read the current game/thread. Palmar will be happy to help you, PM him

Rso - You did very well be proud

Meta is fucking fantastic.

edit: not that LS doesn't overuse meta, but it's a great tool.

On that note, don't really get some of the criticism of LS's play, looking back he looked really pretty town, made a decent case on jat-mafia when other townies were calling for my head, and actually listened on the final day unlike one townie who's been around a lot longer who shall remain nameless.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2015 10:56 GMT
#5606
I totally reevaluated. I reevaluated and you were even more certainly mafia than before.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2015 11:19 GMT
#5610
On February 11 2015 19:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 19:56 marvellosity wrote:
I totally reevaluated. I reevaluated and you were even more certainly mafia than before.

No. You called me mafia and called me mafia and called me mafia. No reevaluation. Not even the slightest doubt at any point in time. And I did not really call you mafia before that. I just didn't call you town.

Yes, I called you mafia.

Then I stopped to think about it.

And after thinking you were *definitely* mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2015 11:23 GMT
#5613
On February 11 2015 20:21 Palmar wrote:
I still think my question from day 1 is relevant. How on earth did the JAT wagon disintegrate?

he posted some words and that's often enough to push a lynch off a high profile player
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 11:41:29
February 11 2015 11:29 GMT
#5615
I don't really regret not lynching jat d1, it's one of those things.

I regret not trying to lynch rsoultin, whenever me and HF suspect the same person independently early d1 it's usually a good omen (sl/HtS in Void, rsoultin here)
On February 04 2015 19:58 marvellosity wrote:
1 Breshke - looks kinda townie maybe?
2 Eden1892 - bad but very townie
3 rsoultin - ehhhh, doesn't look great
4 LightningStrike - looks terrible but doesn't necessarily make him mafia
5 Onegu - looks kinda ok?
6 Damdred - looks mafia
7 Palmar - seems townie
8 marvellosity - really nice bottom
9 sicklucker - eh? play mang...
10 batsnacks - i'd guess town, weakly
11 Koshi - shrug
12 Holyflare - looked townie to me so far
13 justanothertownie - absent. worrying

Close to start of d1... took so much time to get close to being that right again
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2015 11:49 GMT
#5620
I do love lynching people who aren't around to fight back
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2015 11:50 GMT
#5622
no, the Damdred stuff was all independent of anything to do with me.

HF obviously yes :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2015 11:54 GMT
#5624
On February 11 2015 20:51 Palmar wrote:
tbh marv was really towny this game.

then someone tried to build a case on him based on me thinking he was mafia.

at least we don't have to do that newbie repentance game, Plam.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2015 12:59 GMT
#5630
Generally means thinking/saying the same things at the same time
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2015 14:23 GMT
#5639
mafia should have had a roleblocker

there's nothing more or less to say about it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2015 14:30 GMT
#5642
At least the cop made the checks that mafia would have handpicked themselves on both nights. Some cracking cop play.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2015 14:33 GMT
#5643
On February 11 2015 23:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 23:23 marvellosity wrote:
mafia should have had a roleblocker

there's nothing more or less to say about it


Roleblocker instead of a framer or in addition to a framer?
I was under the impression that scum should have one less power role than town, or so I thought...

In addition to.

Vigilante is both an *insanely* swingy role (for obvious reasons) and an insanely strong one.

I would personally never include a 2-shot vigi in a 13 player mini. And without a roleblocker too... kinda ouchy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2015 14:38 GMT
#5645
Well the N2 check didn't matter so much. But in N1 you checked into the very clear frame target.

LS/rsoultin - this is where the check should be looking N1
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 14:59:05
February 11 2015 14:55 GMT
#5648
it's obviously not a full PR, because it doesn't actually do anything. It's a considerably nerfed Innocent Child.

edit: like I got the most mileage possible out of it, because Eden conveniently fakeclaimed before me.

Didn't stop people trying to lynch me later, though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 15:09:15
February 11 2015 15:07 GMT
#5650
I don't think 12 players is any more standard than 13.

e.g. the C9++ setup was made for 13.

edit: Koshi is right though, Artanis didn't factor in at all the huge information benefit you get out of flipping players, regardless of their alignment
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2015 15:51 GMT
#5660
no you never tell someone they were tracked.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2015 15:55 GMT
#5663
On this site at least, rb notifications are quite common and medic save notifications are very uncommon. I think medic save notifications happen somewhat more on other sites.
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