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^ Like, I have no good reason to believe jat is town, and he should be the lynch, but I keep coming back to that and going meh.
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On February 07 2015 12:46 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 12:28 rsoultin wrote:
Bresh, where are you on your reads right now? So we have 3 kills so i basically just doing POE because townreads are easier for me 1 Breshke 2 Eden1892 3 rsoultin 4 LightningStrike 8 marvellosity 10 batsnacks 12 Holyflare 13 justanothertownie So 8 players left i need 4 townreads other than myself Eden is for sure town or a sociopath. He carried me as mafia once and i think if he was mafia he would have more of a direction. Marv, i agree with you about his claim being risky for mafia and i liked his play D1. Also im fairly sure if he flips scum we can just blame palmar? Heres where it gets hard. I think you are townie RSo and i can't explain why other than I dont see anything scummy. You are different this game but i can attribute this to a lot of things like you trying to change your play (which i don't agree with) and you being busy. Also whenever you give your reads lists i can resonate with a lot of the stuff you say. This is a very hesitant town read though because I think it is easy for me to say you are town. Then the last town would be between HF or LS. If JAT flips scum i think it is really unlikely that HF is scum although it is completely possible he busses both his partners but it seems unnecessary when he could have just pushed on you. I want to call LS town but something feels off cant really explain that anymore So i want to lynch in this order JAT Bats LS/HF
I just really like LS lol, I think I'm predisposed to townread him cause his posting comes off so natural to me. He has seemed a ton more confident this game than games in the past, but that could easily be attributed to his just playing more. I think it's natural for players to get more confident rather than less confident with time.
Kinda using Eden's GB read on Eden; his mind changes so often, and he votes everyone under the sun...but 65% of the time for valid reasons at least given what's going on in the thread at the time. That seems more likely to come from town than scum.
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On February 07 2015 12:47 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, so forgive me for going back into WIFOM land, but I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around a scum koshi and a scum jat pushing hard for breshke not to shoot...but no rb and no kill. That just makes no sense to me -_- ...if they have no rb then they would very obviously want us not to shoot. Lol It would be stranger if they were mafia and pushing for Breshke to shoot with no rb. As it is this makes perfect sense. They don't want us shooting so they argue for us not to shoot because that's the only way we don't shoot
Okay, but even assuming they have no RB...which a 2-shot vig without an RB is kinda lolworthy...why no kill either?
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On February 07 2015 12:55 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 12:51 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2015 12:46 Breshke wrote:On February 07 2015 12:28 rsoultin wrote:
Bresh, where are you on your reads right now? So we have 3 kills so i basically just doing POE because townreads are easier for me 1 Breshke 2 Eden1892 3 rsoultin 4 LightningStrike 8 marvellosity 10 batsnacks 12 Holyflare 13 justanothertownie So 8 players left i need 4 townreads other than myself Eden is for sure town or a sociopath. He carried me as mafia once and i think if he was mafia he would have more of a direction. Marv, i agree with you about his claim being risky for mafia and i liked his play D1. Also im fairly sure if he flips scum we can just blame palmar? Heres where it gets hard. I think you are townie RSo and i can't explain why other than I dont see anything scummy. You are different this game but i can attribute this to a lot of things like you trying to change your play (which i don't agree with) and you being busy. Also whenever you give your reads lists i can resonate with a lot of the stuff you say. This is a very hesitant town read though because I think it is easy for me to say you are town. Then the last town would be between HF or LS. If JAT flips scum i think it is really unlikely that HF is scum although it is completely possible he busses both his partners but it seems unnecessary when he could have just pushed on you. I want to call LS town but something feels off cant really explain that anymore So i want to lynch in this order JAT Bats LS/HF I just really like LS lol, I think I'm predisposed to townread him cause his posting comes off so natural to me. He has seemed a ton more confident this game than games in the past, but that could easily be attributed to his just playing more. I think it's natural for players to get more confident rather than less confident with time. Kinda using Eden's GB read on Eden; his mind changes so often, and he votes everyone under the sun...but 65% of the time for valid reasons at least given what's going on in the thread at the time. That seems more likely to come from town than scum. Are you suggesting that Eden is a GB clone this game?
One that makes more sense and doesn't quite scream
KILL [INSERT NAME OF TUNNELED SCUMREAD HERE] !!!!
every other time he posts 
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On February 07 2015 12:57 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 12:51 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2015 12:46 Breshke wrote:On February 07 2015 12:28 rsoultin wrote:
Bresh, where are you on your reads right now? So we have 3 kills so i basically just doing POE because townreads are easier for me 1 Breshke 2 Eden1892 3 rsoultin 4 LightningStrike 8 marvellosity 10 batsnacks 12 Holyflare 13 justanothertownie So 8 players left i need 4 townreads other than myself Eden is for sure town or a sociopath. He carried me as mafia once and i think if he was mafia he would have more of a direction. Marv, i agree with you about his claim being risky for mafia and i liked his play D1. Also im fairly sure if he flips scum we can just blame palmar? Heres where it gets hard. I think you are townie RSo and i can't explain why other than I dont see anything scummy. You are different this game but i can attribute this to a lot of things like you trying to change your play (which i don't agree with) and you being busy. Also whenever you give your reads lists i can resonate with a lot of the stuff you say. This is a very hesitant town read though because I think it is easy for me to say you are town. Then the last town would be between HF or LS. If JAT flips scum i think it is really unlikely that HF is scum although it is completely possible he busses both his partners but it seems unnecessary when he could have just pushed on you. I want to call LS town but something feels off cant really explain that anymore So i want to lynch in this order JAT Bats LS/HF I just really like LS lol, I think I'm predisposed to townread him cause his posting comes off so natural to me. He has seemed a ton more confident this game than games in the past, but that could easily be attributed to his just playing more. I think it's natural for players to get more confident rather than less confident with time. Kinda using Eden's GB read on Eden; his mind changes so often, and he votes everyone under the sun...but 65% of the time for valid reasons at least given what's going on in the thread at the time. That seems more likely to come from town than scum. If this is the heuristic I think it is I'm going to be really happy. What heuristic are you using here rso? (if any)
The town more easily changes their minds than scum one...mind you I'm paraphrasing you cause I don't think in words lol.
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On February 07 2015 12:55 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 12:53 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2015 12:47 Eden1892 wrote:On February 07 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, so forgive me for going back into WIFOM land, but I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around a scum koshi and a scum jat pushing hard for breshke not to shoot...but no rb and no kill. That just makes no sense to me -_- ...if they have no rb then they would very obviously want us not to shoot. Lol It would be stranger if they were mafia and pushing for Breshke to shoot with no rb. As it is this makes perfect sense. They don't want us shooting so they argue for us not to shoot because that's the only way we don't shoot Okay, but even assuming they have no RB...which a 2-shot vig without an RB is kinda lolworthy...why no kill either? There's a possibility that JAT is town i guess and they thought if i wasn't going to no shoot i would shoot him. Also it could be so we would do this type of speculation. Honestly i came close to not shooting but marv some post from marv made me not want to be a punk about it
Yeah, I guess it's pointless to speculate, especially if that's my only reason for hesitating on JAT.
Really do want to hear why bats is pushing HF though.
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On February 07 2015 13:09 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 10:59 Holyflare wrote:On February 07 2015 08:36 batsnacks wrote:On February 07 2015 08:28 Holyflare wrote:On February 07 2015 08:25 batsnacks wrote:On February 07 2015 08:21 Holyflare wrote:On February 07 2015 08:19 batsnacks wrote:On February 07 2015 08:14 Holyflare wrote:
dunno why bats is voting me, completely wasted vote I'm voting you because I think you are mafia. yes but why and why are you ignoring everything else in the game? What makes you think I'm ignoring everything else in the game? You shouldn't take the rsoultin approach... you said you were reading the thread and we've given great reasons for people that aren't me and I'm town anyway so if you are voting me that makes your points on me being mafia higher than everyone elses for being mafia. Since it is literally impossible for your points to outweigh their points since i'm town and you haven't actually posted reasons why i'm mafia you're not actually playing the game at all and are instead wasting your vote Why not have input in actual discussions if you're so bored at work all the time? You've been lurking the entire night Mostly because it's hard to do anything but read on my personal phone. Typing is laggy as hell and copy/pasting and multitab browsing are pretty much impossible. My work phone is a lot nicer but I don't play mafia on that for obvious reasons. As far as reasons... idk... you're just not town HF. You said yourself you were in rare form this game e.g. not being invested and trolling d1. I move my vote around a lot right now I think this is the best place for it.
Lol, HF, yes I did see him post that. Just seems pretty scanty. I'm actually expecting some sort of compelling townread on JAT or something, if bats is town, cause yeah.
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On February 07 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 13:01 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2015 12:55 Breshke wrote:On February 07 2015 12:53 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2015 12:47 Eden1892 wrote:On February 07 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, so forgive me for going back into WIFOM land, but I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around a scum koshi and a scum jat pushing hard for breshke not to shoot...but no rb and no kill. That just makes no sense to me -_- ...if they have no rb then they would very obviously want us not to shoot. Lol It would be stranger if they were mafia and pushing for Breshke to shoot with no rb. As it is this makes perfect sense. They don't want us shooting so they argue for us not to shoot because that's the only way we don't shoot Okay, but even assuming they have no RB...which a 2-shot vig without an RB is kinda lolworthy...why no kill either? There's a possibility that JAT is town i guess and they thought if i wasn't going to no shoot i would shoot him. Also it could be so we would do this type of speculation. Honestly i came close to not shooting but marv some post from marv made me not want to be a punk about it Yeah, I guess it's pointless to speculate, especially if that's my only reason for hesitating on JAT. Really do want to hear why bats is pushing HF though. Because this donkey town gave him the keys to be perpetually townread by making decisive pushes on people even if they don't make sense I know the real reason Palmar was shot now. Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 19:48 Palmar wrote:
Tbh, looking at ritoky's post, I could 100% lynch superbia because the guy doing his own thing is almost always mafia. This guy would have buried batsnacks tomorrow. 100%. #TrustInPalmar
That's plausible, though not from this game, Eden -flicks whip at-
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On February 07 2015 13:42 Holyflare wrote:
nobody can possibly have a town case for jat
lol I know I sure don't
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Nah, man, hit him where it hurts xP In the pocketbook.
##vote: the kat in the hat
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On February 07 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote:
I'm waffling on bats. He seems to have been super reluctant (except for saying jat is a justified lynch near EoD) to vote/push/pressure jat all game. I also see jat defending bats a lot. Which makes me think that if jat is scum, bats may either be his partner, or just pocketed town. Some of bats' later posting makes me think the latter, because all of his "this is also a good lynch" stuff from EoD checks out. His read on you, bresh, not so much though I think that may just be me on he not seeing you as terribly scummy Day 1.
Bats, can you tell me why breshke being "passive" caused you to switch to him from SL? I know that you mentioned that SL responded well to your vote on him, but what was the tipping point? Brilliant! if Jat is mafia, bats is town or mafia. That's added to my understanding of this game tremendously.
Great way to miss my point entirely, marv. Full marks.
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On February 07 2015 22:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 12:45 rsoultin wrote:
^ Like, I have no good reason to believe jat is town, and he should be the lynch, but I keep coming back to that and going meh. I have a reason to not lynch jat. But let's lynch him anyways. Seems legit. Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 12:47 Eden1892 wrote:On February 07 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, so forgive me for going back into WIFOM land, but I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around a scum koshi and a scum jat pushing hard for breshke not to shoot...but no rb and no kill. That just makes no sense to me -_- ...if they have no rb then they would very obviously want us not to shoot. Lol It would be stranger if they were mafia and pushing for Breshke to shoot with no rb. As it is this makes perfect sense. They don't want us shooting so they argue for us not to shoot because that's the only way we don't shoot If I was mafia with Koshi and we had no rb then we would kill Breshke. What kind of nonsense is this?
Interesting how you take my post that actually says I have no good reason to believe you're town and then construe it as I have a good reason not to lynch you. You think it's any more likely for a Koshi/HF team to leave Bresh alive than you and Koshi? It makes no sense for any player in this game to do that!
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On February 07 2015 23:59 LightningStrike wrote:
rsoultin what you think of JAT's case on HF being scum for the 3rd time with me and you?
I could have sworn this case had already been made earlier in the game, LS, or at least the point has already been brought up. Have to double-check who it was, though. Saying that people were actually pushing to lynch me Day 1 is complete bullocks. I was mentioned but no one voted for me except Eden.
The only thing that even would make this case significant is if town HF always stubbornly sticks to one scum read as town, which is not something I can speak to.
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On February 08 2015 00:05 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 00:01 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2015 22:48 justanothertownie wrote:On February 07 2015 12:45 rsoultin wrote:
^ Like, I have no good reason to believe jat is town, and he should be the lynch, but I keep coming back to that and going meh. I have a reason to not lynch jat. But let's lynch him anyways. Seems legit. On February 07 2015 12:47 Eden1892 wrote:On February 07 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, so forgive me for going back into WIFOM land, but I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around a scum koshi and a scum jat pushing hard for breshke not to shoot...but no rb and no kill. That just makes no sense to me -_- ...if they have no rb then they would very obviously want us not to shoot. Lol It would be stranger if they were mafia and pushing for Breshke to shoot with no rb. As it is this makes perfect sense. They don't want us shooting so they argue for us not to shoot because that's the only way we don't shoot If I was mafia with Koshi and we had no rb then we would kill Breshke. What kind of nonsense is this?
Interesting how you take my post that actually says I have no good reason to believe you're town and then construe it as I have a good reason not to lynch you. You think it's any more likely for a Koshi/HF team to leave Bresh alive than you and Koshi? It makes no sense for any player in this game to do that! "I keep coming back to that" good reason to townread me. Yes, it is more likely for a Koshi/HF team to do this since it was pretty likely that Breshke would shoot me or Koshi. And yes, it doesn't make much sense for anyone to do this but the only possible explanation I see is that they were gambling on Breshke shooting me.
Give me a good reason to townread you, then. What have you really done all game? I mean, seriously? Cause this NK speculation stuff makes 0 sense for anyone as mafia. I can use that lovely WIFOM to try to clear myself, too. Like, why in the world as mafia would I keep insisting Breshke shoot either me or my scum partner, if we're not going to RB or kill him?
This is nonsense. No mafia team is going to sit around with their thumb up their ass and go 'well, hehe, there's a 50/50 chance breshke shoots town so let's roll the dice and hope he kills jat'. Such a dumb argument.
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On February 08 2015 00:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 00:12 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 00:05 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 00:01 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2015 22:48 justanothertownie wrote:On February 07 2015 12:45 rsoultin wrote:
^ Like, I have no good reason to believe jat is town, and he should be the lynch, but I keep coming back to that and going meh. I have a reason to not lynch jat. But let's lynch him anyways. Seems legit. On February 07 2015 12:47 Eden1892 wrote:On February 07 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, so forgive me for going back into WIFOM land, but I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around a scum koshi and a scum jat pushing hard for breshke not to shoot...but no rb and no kill. That just makes no sense to me -_- ...if they have no rb then they would very obviously want us not to shoot. Lol It would be stranger if they were mafia and pushing for Breshke to shoot with no rb. As it is this makes perfect sense. They don't want us shooting so they argue for us not to shoot because that's the only way we don't shoot If I was mafia with Koshi and we had no rb then we would kill Breshke. What kind of nonsense is this?
Interesting how you take my post that actually says I have no good reason to believe you're town and then construe it as I have a good reason not to lynch you. You think it's any more likely for a Koshi/HF team to leave Bresh alive than you and Koshi? It makes no sense for any player in this game to do that! "I keep coming back to that" good reason to townread me. Yes, it is more likely for a Koshi/HF team to do this since it was pretty likely that Breshke would shoot me or Koshi. And yes, it doesn't make much sense for anyone to do this but the only possible explanation I see is that they were gambling on Breshke shooting me. Give me a good reason to townread you, then. What have you really done all game? I mean, seriously? Cause this NK speculation stuff makes 0 sense for anyone as mafia. I can use that lovely WIFOM to try to clear myself, too. Like, why in the world as mafia would I keep insisting Breshke shoot either me or my scum partner, if we're not going to RB or kill him? This is nonsense. No mafia team is going to sit around with their thumb up their ass and go 'well, hehe, there's a 50/50 chance breshke shoots town so let's roll the dice and hope he kills jat'. Such a dumb argument. I love how you just keep attacking me for nonsense but completely ignore the huge case on HF.
You've already responded to my thoughts on your huge "case". Nice try.
All you're even saying is that I was his scumread and he didn't push me at EoD when there were what? Three, four other wagons? That case is so flimsy it's hilarious. Good job making it look huge with all the quotes, though.
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Hold on. I didn't see the second part of your case.
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Okay, jat.
On February 06 2015 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Let's just kill SL.
On February 06 2015 07:54 justanothertownie wrote:or maybe Onegu? I don't know 
So what were your much better reasons to kill SL again?
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On February 08 2015 00:33 justanothertownie wrote:This is literally the next post in my filter. No way you don't see this when you post those quotes. Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 07:57 justanothertownie wrote:
SL is here but doesn't care in the slightest about who gets lynched as long as it isn't him. You can also have a look at damdreds case on him.
Sure, I saw that, but I also see Marv (I believe) making the exact same argument for Damdred about pushing SL then not caring where the lynch goes. You don't even mention Onegu again. That says why you voted SL, but not why you had such better reasons to.
And that case Damdred made on him was made the night before. I should know; it's why I went through SL's town games and chose to push SL myself.
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On February 08 2015 00:50 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 00:33 justanothertownie wrote:This is literally the next post in my filter. No way you don't see this when you post those quotes. On February 06 2015 07:57 justanothertownie wrote:
SL is here but doesn't care in the slightest about who gets lynched as long as it isn't him. You can also have a look at damdreds case on him. Sure, I saw that, but I also see Marv (I believe) making the exact same argument for Damdred about pushing SL then not caring where the lynch goes. You don't even mention Onegu again. That says why you voted SL, but not why you had such better reasons to.
And that case Damdred made on him was made the night before. I should know; it's why I went through SL's town games and chose to push SL myself. What is the bolded even supposed to say? Ridiculous. So what if marv made that argument about damdred? I didn't think damdred was scum and I also said that multiple times. And wtf does it matter when damdred made his case?
You were waffling on SL and Onegu long after Damdred made his case, so that can't be why. Keep up.
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