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Spirits gain points per X hours. Those points can be spent buying roles for their faction. They also have a few other powers to influence the game, but they cannot interact directly. Upon reading the thread, this was the first thing that I noticed. Typically town will benefit from roles more than mafia. I have no evidence that it would benefit us to maximize the length of day one, but if I had to guess I would probably say that the more points the spirit gains before the night cycle the better. The challenge would be how do we get this to happen? I'd be in favor of some sort of policy where we all agree not to shoot until an hour before the actual deadline, but for this to work everyone would need to be on board and willing to go after anyone who breaks the policy. Being realistic, there is always going to be one townie who decides to yolo the shot immediately, but I'll put the idea out there anyways. Despite this, I am also playing with the idea of taking the selfish role and insta-shooting like sandroba suggests just to have the control if I feel somewhat confident. I like Tube's suggestion about the shot vote count, though that doesn't say much about tube the player. The biggest problem with this format is that if town makes it clear that player X is getting shot, player X simply shoots first, but that's not a problem if we just follow it for the first 22 hours. To get the rest of the policy out of the way, I'll be guarding the button unless I have a reason to choose one of the other options. From a setup perspective, I'd put the button in the "manipulative" category where a certain player or faction has to convince others to blindly perform an action, which tends to get ugly. Ninja's should be shooting early and often. From my experience, a ninja very rarely locates another ninja through analysis. It's mostly winning by staying alive longer. By shooting early, you maximize your chance to eliminate the other ninja's vest an open them up to a night kill. Furthermore, if you happen to hit a player with your first shot and they live, odds are you've probably won right there. Dying with two shots in hand is pretty worthless. The reason I'm saying this is that shooting early also benefits town because the mafia kp can be reduced by reducing their numbers and flipping the first mafia always snowballs the game. Ninja isn't an anti-town 3p like serial killer so we can both benefit in setups like these by working together. Epiphany had the weak intro post feeling obligated to explain why he wasn't posting. He mentions that he is a newbie several times, even before the Mocsta post, yet then starts talking about geript saying that: "Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively." I could be wrong, but this would imply that he probably isn't a newbie. I don't have a problem with smurfs, but the likely deception seems scummy. Also, he needs to be less angry  On March 03 2015 21:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: batsnacks why did you want to wish good luck to mafia? This one I found a bit odd. It's fine to joke with him about being shot, but then following up with another question as if he is actually trying to trap him here either means he is attempting to look like he is scum hunting or is feeling really, really optimistic. On March 03 2015 15:35 IAmRobik wrote: lol @ the nuked stuff. I thought he was suicide bomber or something like that trying to detonate. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Heh so you thought a host was able to modify the appearance of the TeamLiquid forums for his mafia game? Right.... Koshi's idea to policy a day one shot is decent in theory to deter a poor shot, but it probably won't go anywhere. Toads suggestion that he doesn't want to be too townish is pretty silly. You can't justify that with a straight face. Damdred seems scummy enough to warrant keeping an eye on. Can't point to anything in specific though. I didn't really see Obi as the clear suspect upon my first read through like Sepulchre suggests. Sepulchre comes off as a reasonable individual though. Hopefully I'll have a better idea for a few shot targets before the 24 hour mark. | ||
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On March 04 2015 00:51 AT.Epiphany wrote: I mentioned newbie because this particular bit was brought up by Geript in a highly insulting manner. Seriously read the stuff geript wrote, it's probably more angry than me, and what's more entirely unprovoked personal attacks from him. That's why I was angry for a while, which I no longer am. Were you familiar with geript's mafia play prior to the game starting or is that something that you took the time to research once it began? If it is the latter, was there something that geript posted that triggered you to do some research or was he someone you just picked out and happened to find evidence when reading his past games that led you to your conclusion? | ||
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On March 03 2015 08:06 Half the Sky wrote: This is quite interesting. We either have a scum player not happy at his alignment or a townie that is just bored of being town... On March 03 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote: YM, it's called a tone read. And I've played with Fecalfeast before. I also find it amusing you say my posting was forced considering I posted on impulse, and it was the first thing that came to my mind. I know this is kinda backtracking since I wasn't around at the start, but if he is mafia, then the post would be a calculated move to convince others that he wouldn't be mafia. Suggesting that you're tone reading the fact that he is showing frustration, when one of the two possibilities would indicate that he isn't obligated to tell the truth about his emotions to begin which is illogical. I don't really see how your knowledge of Fecal is really relevant. On March 04 2015 01:02 Half the Sky wrote: Kita and LS, since you're both here, let's talk about Damdred. I'm TRing SL and he found something off with Damdred as well. I had a hunch on him earlier since he commented on my opening WAY after others expressed reservation but my latest concern is his read on you, LS. It reeks too much of the way he tried pushing you in Titanic, and he was scum that game. He should know how tentative you sound which is probably why I'm leaning scum on him. Thoughts? Like I said before, nothing really specific aside from a couple "things scum say" statements. "fuck the device we are scum hunting to figure out a shot." "I will yolo shoot you so please actually contribute now" "This is extremely frustrating" "I'm sleeping now have lots of good content" I don't put much merit into your connection to titanic. It seems like he plays with the idea that LS might be a good shot target, LS's posts disappear so there isn't an opportunity to make much further of an argument and he leaves the thread. I would need more info here to draw a conclusion like that. | ||
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On March 04 2015 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: His case on HtS. Same thing here as above. HtS was asked to give a read on someone. She did, yet your mom somehow turns this into "you fabricated a read because you needed to give one". It is at least as likely that HtS gave the read as town because SHE WAS ASKED TO!! She answered a question "what do you think my alignment is". Why is it impossible this is the case here? That -- for a vet player -- should be at worst a null-tell. Now those are his only scumreads in this game. Both are fake. So very fucking fake and badly reasoned. I kinda had similar suspicious as your mom here finding HtS's initial couple of posts on fecal to be irrelevant and then the town conclusion seemingly coming out of the blue so that may not be "fake" considering I came to the same conclusion independently before even reading your mom's filter. The part about him that doesn't immediately make me view him as town for seeing the same things is this statement: "rayn basically just called her mafia without a given reason and then proceeded to do so with a lot of other people including me, diluting his committment to a mafia hts and giving himself a lot of other options without pushing anyone in particular." It seems like he is jumping to a conclusion too quick here, stating it as a matter of fact. I interpret it mostly as rayn talking about other stuff, rather than him "giving himself other options." Still haven't read much of koshi since he seems a bit emo this game so I'm not sure if the second part of your argument has merit, but I'll like a look when I have a chance. | ||
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On March 03 2015 08:40 sandroba wrote: @Shootout I'm gonna be shooting someone as soon as 24h flips because someone is going to do it either way no matter how much we argue about it and I trust me more Just for the record, people who are planning on doing this better justify their shots ahead of time. The only reason not to do this is the possibility that your target is a ninja, which means the shot would miss anyways. Justifying the read as the shooter doesn't really make a difference before or after the fact, but others not having the opportunity to say whether they support or are against the shot until after the flip makes their opinions meaningless. | ||
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On March 04 2015 01:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: ...as the fact is your mom should consider, in case he is town, Koshi town 100%, yet he apparently isn't because he is for some reason afraid to say that. That doesn't make any sense from town perspective. I've read your explanation about why koshi should be 100% town to your mom a couple times, but I don't fully understand why you're saying he should be so confident about this. mafia hts + mafia koshi implying mafia isn't doing anything doesn't seem like enough to make koshi confirmed town from his perspective. I suppose you can make the pre-flip association analysis for why mafia rayn and mafia koshi doesn't make sense from his perspective, but him not mentioning koshi in less than a page filter in a game with 25 of players doesn't seem completely out of the question like you suggest. Is there more that I'm missing that makes you go from your mom being suspicious to your mom being 100% scum? | ||
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On March 04 2015 02:02 rsoultin wrote: Soooo...maybe not the best thing to bring up, but how do we even know the identity of the shooter will be revealed? lol >< Uhh first person to ##shoot after the deadline?  | ||
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On March 04 2015 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: On the bolded part (and also to the next paragraph). People will always make pre-flip associations. They are not a good way to use in a case against why someone is mafia, but people ALWAYS do them. Because you cannot avoid it. And it is out of the question because your mom thinks both of me and HtS are mafia. If BOTH of us are mafia there is literally no way Koshi is mafia, just for the fact that.. In fact let me put it this way kitaman. If you scumread me and HtS both. Do you think there is a chance mafia!rayn is not pushing a lynch on a townie in this situation? yeah I see what you're saying there I guess. The bigger issue for me is whether the lack of comment on koshi is him maliciously allowing a townie to be attacked without coming to his defense or if he simply just hasn't put much thought into koshi. More often than not, scum players will typically defend players that they see as 100% town because they're trying to emulate their town play. I'd say I one out of three main points you make is a strong argument, so I'm not at the same level of suspicion that you seem to be at this point. | ||
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On March 04 2015 04:37 Half the Sky wrote: Kita - Inclined to scumread him atm. From Carol, I do recall him being a low-count high content poster, his first few posts are on mechanics and his opinion on your mom doesn't say anything new of substance that others had not touched on already. Really? How do you justify this argument if I'm the first person discussing rayn's argument? I suggested that your mom's HTS read may not be fake if I came to the same conclusion separately and I questioned the validity of the ignored koshi argument several times. How can you suggest that I'm just repeating what others are saying about your mom if I responded to rayn's post right after he made it? On March 04 2015 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't like the fact he decided to leave the argument between me and him "undecided". He doesn't really do that as town. In case it wasn't clear, I'm not in favor of a your mom shot. As I said before, the hts argument doesn't seem fake if I'm thinking the same thing and ignoring koshi arguments isn't convincing. Still looking for a preferred shot though. | ||
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On March 04 2015 04:37 geript wrote: Ok so basically it boils down to 1 simple thing. Syllogism is in this game. There's literally no one in the world that has ever or will ever read Sandroba as well as Syllogism. So if we leave Sandro alive N1 and he doesn't receive a power, then we auto lynch him. If he does receive a power, we evaluate both his use of it and what power was given. Like it's complete win/win. More often than not a lazy/afk sandroba equals a mafia sandroba. We obviously can't rely on mechanics we aren't aware of, but leaving him around a day or two and seeing if he follows this metric usually does the trick. | ||
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On March 04 2015 05:04 Half the Sky wrote: Alright so if I understand you right, he has god tier reads, but how do you differentiate between that and a scummer having perfect information or a scummer sheeping reads? I mean if you have a god tier read on him fine, but for someone like me who doesn't know him very well, what should I be looking for? lol three of his five reads at that point were on himself, a spirit, myself who had only said "hi", plus two town reads. Is a scummer having "perfect information" even relevant to think about here? | ||
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On March 03 2015 15:58 sicklucker wrote: Koshi once said hes not trying day one so he doesint get nked. BUT EVEN THEN HE TRIED REALLY HARD. Ive never been so sure someones mafia on day ever. EVER like hes mafia if we dont shoot him ima be mad. Like koshi always trys except for when he roles mafia I think hes the easiest read in the game Can someone verify this statement? I would but the database post always times out when I'm at work through the proxy and I'm a bit lazy to search manually. For someone who is familiar with his play, is koshi more likely to quit the thread as mafia when he is on the receiving end of pressure? | ||
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On March 04 2015 05:29 Kurumi wrote: Hi Tubesock! Yes of course! Why'd you ask such a question if Alakaslam was unmentioned or mentioned as a baddie? It's self-evident that Alakaslam has become an interesting person in my inquiries about the nature of the T.E.A.M. . I believe he'd a be a great support in finding out the means by which T.E.A.M. recruits its members! All documented as said - remember that documentation creates reality! Casper is too peaceful for the W.R.A.I.T.H. Foolishness is! You are really missing a lot of information by not reading the initial documentation given you at the very start of your job in Corporation! Everything's in "Corporation & You: Guide to Living Well in Corporation" - make sure to re-read it, Tubesock! You know that we have an union here, at Corporation! Your rights are guarded by the very best, I love my union employees! Lucy and John are my favourite lunch partners. Have I talked about John? John is the IT guy who locked himself in a server room over the weekend once. He survived thanks to hunting bugs and drinking carrot juice from the vending machine set-up in the server room! Brave man! So what's the deal with the Kita guy? I hear he is an incredibly reliable townie. | ||
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On March 04 2015 05:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Kita how do you not know how Koshi plays as town against how he plays scum? Don't recall a mafia koshi game that I participated in off the top of my head aside from game of thrones, which was too long ago to be memorable. | ||
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On March 04 2015 05:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Sure I guess, but how can you not see the differences between Carol and now? =/ To apply the meta correctly, his behavior this game would need to reflect his mafia behavior. Him playing differently than a previous town game doesn't suggest that he is mafia, which is why I asked. Since you seem to be familiar, is there a mafia game or two I should be looking at to draw comparisons? Also, based on your post you seem to suggest that you think koshi is mafia. You mentioned earlier that you were unhappy about his inactivity, but haven't mentioned him since. Is he your preferred shot target? | ||
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On March 04 2015 05:49 sandroba wrote: @kita & geript comments on breshke pls Yeah will do, he was actually the guy I was reading before you returned to the thread. | ||
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On March 04 2015 05:10 sandroba wrote: Breshe ends up agreeing with rayn that my behavior is scummy, even though he himself thought it wasn't scummy to do what I proposed. Wouldn't him as a towny think that I might have been thinking the same thing as him and didn't consider what rayn said like he didn't? On March 03 2015 22:30 Breshke wrote: Yes I didn't think sandroba is scummy because i didn't think about the device being a distraction when town was in a bad way......I'm town and the good reason (the one you gave about it being a distraction) did not occur to me so I find it hard to scumread sandroba for not realizing something that I also did not. Uhh sandroba, doesn't Breshke eventually come to the same conclusion that you're willing to shoot him for not coming to? | ||
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On March 04 2015 06:11 sandroba wrote: uhu somehow I misread that, and that was really what tipped me off well, back to the filter diving I guess. I don't really like either YM or koshi shots tbh. +1 lazy scum point for you  | ||
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On March 04 2015 06:47 IAmRobik wrote: i can't wait to shoot. :drool: Do we really want to rely on the guy with rabies...? Would be much happier if everyone could hold their shot for at least another 5 hours or so | ||
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 Also for those planning to deadline shoot, you need to make your shot at :59 rather than :00. Only reason that I'm pointing it out despite being against it is that the six mafia players are more likely to recognize this as a team and relay it in the qt than a single individual. | ||
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On March 04 2015 09:04 Fecalfeast wrote: Ooh, also, is kurumi really chezinu? If so, why is he not chezinu? If not, why didn't we shoot kurumi for being intentionally misleading? Are these questions serious? -_- | ||
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On March 04 2015 08:41 geript wrote: @Damdred, Rayn, Kita and Sandroba I want you to post your thoughts on the following people: Obiwanshinobi Batsnacks Sepulchre Onegu Oatsmaster Most of them I'd probably be guessing at this point due to the size of their filters. I'll check back before the end of the night cycle when we hopefully have more to go by. | ||
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On March 04 2015 09:11 Fecalfeast wrote: They are letters arranged in a pattern on a screen and as such have no emotion or intent. I was serious when typing them, though. So you honestly want to policy kurumi for pretending to be someone else? If you want to policy him because he isn't doing anything helpful then fine....but he obviously isn't misleading anyone besides maybe you. | ||
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On March 04 2015 09:17 Fecalfeast wrote: All you had to do was answer the questions since I'm obviously confused about him. I thought it would be more obvious that I'm not happy with him being chezinu rather than playing. My bad. mmk sorry! Didn't realize it wasn't obvious to others. | ||
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Heh a bit too tired at the moment. I'll check on them in the morning. On March 04 2015 10:55 Keirathi wrote: Yo, who do you actually think is scum or anything? These are literally the only two reads in your filter. Last game you were throwing out town reads and scum reads and list posts and shit left and right. What gives? Would kinda be nice to get a better idea of your reads as well since you weren't around for most of the relevant discussion topics. | ||
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On March 04 2015 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: your mom - kill with fire right fucking now sandroba kita batsnacks i don't know about the rest but somewhere between Onegu/Koshi/Slam/Sepulchre/Damdred/Robert. rayn is this still your list? | ||
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On March 04 2015 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I still don't like sandroba first pushing the idea of him definitely shooting, then pushing a breshke shot and when the shot time comes he is disappeared but returns soon after... Like he just happened to have something urgent to do JUST that time? Well he was attacked for his case on breshke and backed down, though he never found an alternative. The scummy part would be him declaring that he was going to shoot at the beginning of the cycle and then declining to do so. He also failed to even comment about your mom. | ||
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On March 04 2015 23:54 Damdred wrote: I just read pages 70-77 really disjointed attempt by me. Some of the things I've picked up on others have noticed which is a good sign we are onto something on the people geript asked me to read. This is a really vague statement. What are some of the things that you've picked up on, which individuals on geripts list are you referring to, and why? | ||
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On March 03 2015 10:19 Sepulchre wrote: So, these two posts by Half the Sky are, perhaps intentionally, rather bad play, for obvious reasons. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it is just a bait. Why do you assume that these statements are a bait? I find it scummy that you call the play bad and then spin it to make it seem like HTS is trying to trap players as if you know she is town or something. Now that it has become apparent that this was not a bait, does your opinion of HTS remain unchanged? On March 04 2015 06:16 Sepulchre wrote: I think Raynpelikoneet is the best shot in the long run. For the record, I'm not in favor of shooting Your Mom, while shooting Koshi is acceptable in my book, but I'm not crazy about it either. Also, why is that that you are putting effort into your two large posts at the start of the cycle and after the flip, but at the time where your opinion matters most you have a couple of one liners about your shot preference with little attempt to persuade people. You seem very disjointed from the events of the thread. Will this change in the future? | ||
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On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote: Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him. On March 04 2015 04:00 Tubesock wrote: I didn't see a reason for him scumming you at first. But later he does, and lays them out. I read Rayn's case and thought that makes sense. I then reread your filter and the first few pages looking at you and skimming the rest, but then I don't see the scum. But I really think Rayn is town. So, I'm conflicted and unsure. It is why I'm not voting you just yet. These two posts seem scummy in hindsight. It's tough to follow his thought process in a sequence that makes sense. From what I can tell: 1) He reads Your Mom's filter, doesn't see anything wrong 2) He reads rayn's case, thinks it makes sense and is sold that he is mafia 3) He rereads Your Mom's filter with rayn's case in mind and still doesn't see anything wrong As far as I can tell, all three events happened by the time the first post was made since he specifically refers to rereading. If he doesn't think rayn's case works after rereading, why is he still saying that it makes sense? Can you reread Your Mom's filter with rayn's case in mind and think that BOTH rayn's case make sense and Your Mom's filter is not scummy? How does he go from "sold he's mafia" to "don't see the scum" in that twelve minute period when questioned further? I also dislike that he mentions multiple times that a large part of the read is based on his view that rayn is town, rather than finding things that make your mom is mafia. | ||
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On March 05 2015 00:44 geript wrote: Kita so I believe it's morning now. Prioritizing things I find relevant over things you find relevant. About to go into a meeting, but I'll try to fit it in afterwards. And to be fair, if I'm looking at your list, you better let me know how you feel about Keirathi, Epiphany, Damdred, Fecal, Tube | ||
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On March 05 2015 00:47 Mocsta wrote: LOL its this very post that made me town read him i see lots of town change their view based on ppl they think are towny. not sure if mafia would be so open about this to be honest. +as town im often chastised for switching "strong" viws so i know this isnt a hard mafia indicator, tl;dr hes put his cards exactly as what they are with no additional agenda/distraction afterwards. to me thats townie Yeah switching views is something I find to be townie as well, but what I'm trying to understand is how he can consider rayn's case to be convincing and making sense, yet unable to find reasons to see why your mom is mafia. It's fine it he takes one stance or the other, but it seems like he took both stances at the same time. | ||
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On March 05 2015 00:39 Half the Sky wrote: In that game (Carol), OWS did jack all. If I had to take him at face value now, he'd be a good lynch, hasn't done too much beyond tone reads early D1. Definitely forgettable, and doesn't really talk/followup on Bats even post-lynch. So you draw the comparison to a game where he is town and then conclude that he would be a good lynch? | ||
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On March 05 2015 01:02 Mocsta wrote: fuck u guys contemplating a modkill. will make a decision in the morning. night. I typically try to stay as positive as possible during a game, but anyone purposely taking a modkill because they don't get their way are making an embarrassment of themselves. It's really selfish to just quit on the rest of the players. If there is something in particular you need addressed let me know, but drop the attitude please. | ||
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On March 05 2015 01:01 Half the Sky wrote: Basically if you know him better Kita, is his town meta normally on the lazy side (think VayneAuthority, etc)? heh I'm not sure if this is true, but I always get the impression that the first thing obi does when catching up on the game is running a ctrl f on his name to see who is talking about him. He kinda showed that with the shot comment. I wouldn't consider myself knowing him any better than anyone else though. | ||
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On March 04 2015 09:12 kitaman27 wrote: Most of them I'd probably be guessing at this point due to the size of their filters. I'll check back before the end of the night cycle when we hopefully have more to go by. Obiwanshinobi - Don't have a great explanation but towny I think? He makes a few bold comments about the differences in koshi's player that are a bit risky. You can argue there is the pushing the mafia agenda angle with that, but I didn't come to that conclusion. Batsnacks - lol it takes guts to threaten to shoot a player without reading the thread. He never followed through so I'd like to hear his motivations there. Either lynch bait or useless scummer. Either way, dragging the town down with his current play. Sepulchre - Leaning a bit scummy here, though his views are detailed enough that a higher quantity of posts will probably make his alignment more apparent. As I mentioned earlier, I took issue with the assumption that HtS was town after noticing scummy posts. He needs to recognize that several players are going to take issue with his play at the current activity level. I need to think about rayn's position in the game a bit more before evaluating his case here. Onegu - Not really sure. Townie before scum I guess? Definitely need more posts here, especially when we're trying to figure out the lynch. It's weird that a player with so few reads decides that I'm the guy that makes his top three list. Does a low post count mafia player mention me like that? Typically they try to buddy me instead. Oatsmaster - Originally I had him as a ninja because his posts were so well hidden in the thread that I couldn't find any His comments about having no intention reading the thread raise my blood pressure a bit, but I don't have a read on him. | ||
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On March 05 2015 02:37 Half the Sky wrote: Bah, you ninjaed me. ^^ Breadcrumb.....shoot away! | ||
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On March 05 2015 04:07 AT.Epiphany wrote: At this point, my main point of interest is getting into the dispute between Mocsta and Breshke. I'm confident that one of the two of these guys is definitely scum and that this isn't TOWN-TOWN Same post later on: On March 05 2015 04:07 AT.Epiphany wrote: Also, I'm null on Breshke How can you say it's not town-town if you are NULL on Breshke? Your first sentence suggests that if Mocsta is town, Breshke is mafia, but your second suggests you don't have a read on Breshke. Could you elaborate here? | ||
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On March 05 2015 04:11 geript wrote: Like literally Rayn, keep on talking. Just keep that fucking mouth running. Because I'm going to fucking shoot someone tonight. And the more you talk the more likely I'm just going just shoot you in the fucking face because you do this every fucking game. EVERY FUCKING GAME!!!!! You get to the point where, "No. Geript can totally be mafia here. I'm even sure of it." Fuck that shit. Fuck that shit right in the ass. I'm not even going to bother talking to you anymore. I don't even know why I fucking bother in the first place. Like seriously, what the fuck? ![[image loading]](http://thats-normal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/seinfeld-serenity-now.gif) | ||
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On March 05 2015 04:22 AT.Epiphany wrote: I just mean I'm sure one of them is scum, but I'm not sure which. Why? | ||
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Of the remaining four, which would you still shoot right now? | ||
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On March 05 2015 04:29 Toadesstern wrote: why are so many people faking... like srsly who would give you a gun Maybe they had something like this in mind? ![[image loading]](http://f.blick.ch/media/2684113-8292/Schiessen%20Frau.gif) + Show Spoiler + jk geript, please don't shoot me | ||
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On March 05 2015 04:36 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm not fully caught up but did anyone else actually look at this list? Nobody really commented on it in the next page or so afterward. 1)Syllogism/foolishness, how does he know which spirit is which and why are they even on the list? 2)I don't exist? 3)Are there blues in this game? I thought someone (koshi?) said there were none and we had to get powers from the spirits. Why are people blue coloured and why are you blue yourself in this list? 4)No explanation for anything, how has nobody other than LS pinged this list? AM I MISSING SOME SUPER OBVIOUS JOKE HERE? Heh you're absent from the thread for 15 hours and this is the topic you decide to comment about upon your return? Any conclusion here? Also, 1) No 2) Yes 3) Dunno 4) meh | ||
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On March 05 2015 04:40 AT.Epiphany wrote: Not if he thinks the other guy is deliberately picking on slips to fabricate a case, which is the first thing Breshke accuses Mocsta of...that's why I referred to the tone. I But what you're saying is: 1 of Mocsta or Breshke is mafia because they don't give pause. Therefore, 1 of Mocsta or Breshke is town. Hence, 1 of Mocsta or Breshke is town, yet they don't give pause. It's not making sense to me. | ||
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On March 05 2015 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: kita are you serious? Sometimes? | ||
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On March 05 2015 04:47 AT.Epiphany wrote: I'm just saying whoever the townie is thinks the other guy is mafia and framing him. Obviously, they don't necessarily have to think that way, but the tone of this interaction clearly indicates they do. But why cant Mocsta be a townie who thanks Breshke is mafia and is framing him and Breshke be a townie who thanks Mocsta is mafia and is framing him? Still don't see why it's one or the other. | ||
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On March 05 2015 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: How can you possibly say "dunno" to "no bules in this game?" question? Because I don't know the timeline of when the spirits buy roles for their faction? | ||
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On March 05 2015 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you seriously thought you have been playing well in this game you would think you have really fucking good reads on D1 and you would have 100% tried to shoot at the 24h mark!!! 100% On March 04 2015 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: I want to shoot your mom and i am doing it when the 24h mark passes if i am awake. I encourage everyone who is town to do that because that dude is 100% mafia. Maybe you need to be a bit more conservative with your 100%. | ||
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On March 05 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: he is a massive dick if he did what he did at the deadline as mafia. Heh so you're saying he isn't one? | ||
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On March 05 2015 05:31 Toadesstern wrote: anything that caught your attention? Seems pretty close to mine I think. 1) I am honored to have a nickname that references Imperial Japan. 2) Dunno about the Kurumi or Slam town reads. Though to be fair, I have mostly skipped those. 3) Sandroba posturing for a Breshke shot after claiming he intends to shoot probably doesn't make them both mafia. I don't have a huge issue with them in the scummy category though. 4) I don't know if I trust HtS enough to put her on a town list yet. | ||
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I don't really have anything to add here. You could probably cherry pick examples from the newbie game to support either conclusion so I don't put a large amount of weight in this. Third point is okay. Fourth point I can see going either way. | ||
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Either sandroba is town so we don't lynch onegu or sandroba is mafia so we lynch sandroba. sandroba receiving a cop check doesn't necessarily make him town. Even a fake claim is easy to do in this setup if it's a 1-shot since he isn't forced to keep revealing checks. I suppose we could try to abuse the setup by having a spirit give one of three players a town role tonight, confirming that they gave sandroba a cop check night one. Gotta think about the logistics of this a bit more. Going to bed rather soon because I'm really tired. Will give my thoughts tomorrow after reading the three players under consideration and the filters of our flipped players. | ||
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On March 05 2015 09:12 geript wrote: Kiat Im surround by stupid poeplo an d mafia. Sav eme!!111 I'm getting buddied by geript all game. Save me!!! | ||
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On March 04 2015 06:38 sicklucker wrote: Thats interesting I was wondering what are lovely spirits are doing. On March 05 2015 09:02 sicklucker wrote: Ok so I didnt know spirits can buy roles for people. (THATS HOW YOU KNOW IM TOWN) Do you suffer from short term memory loss? If not, why are you claiming to be confirmed town because you don't know spirits can buy roles for people if you are asking the spirit for a gun 24 hours earlier. Liars are usually mafia, no? | ||
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On March 04 2015 08:52 sandroba wrote: Rayn I'm torn about right now, his shot was awful Were you unaware that Rayn was planning to shoot Your Mom? If you considered a shot on Your Mom to be awful, why are you not defending Your Mom prior to the shot? You don't mention him once until after the flip. On March 03 2015 08:40 sandroba wrote: @Shootout I'm gonna be shooting someone as soon as 24h flips because someone is going to do it either way no matter how much we argue about it and I trust me more If you knew rayn was shooting and you thought Your Mom would be an awful shot, why aren't you shooting one of the four individuals that you suggested? On March 04 2015 06:24 sandroba wrote: However that would be lazy and I'm not feeling particularly lazy right now. I shall go back to reading filters. If you're not feeling particularly lazy, why are your conclusions upon reading these filters summed up in a single line? Who do you think is mafia and why? | ||
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On March 06 2015 01:13 sicklucker wrote: One more random thought before I forget. Breske mocha and kita are all like lock towns for going through my filter. That takes alot of courage even I woulnt go through my town play filter. Essentially every person you have called mafia has either flipped town or you are calling town now. Since there are SIX mafia in the game, who do you think is mafia outside of your cell? An explanation of why would be helpful as well. | ||
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On March 06 2015 01:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Does sandroba actually play the games he signs up for? I'm pretty sure he must have joined Jackal's bowling league because he talks about being too busy and going out nearly every game. | ||
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On March 06 2015 05:34 kitaman27 wrote: Also if you received a vig shot rob and chose not to use it, you deserve to get lynched on day three. ^ meh nevermind. My read on you probably shouldn't be based on something like that since you would just shoot without claiming. | ||
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If you feel the check is false, you should probably be voting sandroba. Otherwise, sick/tube. | ||
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On March 06 2015 11:32 Onegu wrote: Also Keir is most likely town for his vote on me. Makes zero sense for mafia to vote me at this point, they know the green check on me is real as.they know I'm town. Or the 1% chance I'm scum (I'm not), why would a.scum Keir bring attention to me, and a bus would make little.to no sense as if I flipped red at some point him being on me when there was a green check stinks of TMI. I assume you mean kurumi, not keir? | ||
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On March 06 2015 11:34 batsnacks wrote: I don't know that Sandroba is town and I didn't feel like reading SL's filter. So... it's tubes for me. Ninja should mercy kill this guy because he deserves a break after all the hard work he has done this game. | ||
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The lynch mechanics are a bit harsh towards town so the benefit of roles being redistributed nightly shouldn't impact this number much. So far we have 1 claimed vig and 1 claimed cop check. That is way below the 5-7 roles one would expect. Even in a worst case scenario where toad and rayn were given roles and there are a couple passive vets or something where the player is not aware, we fall short. I suppose people could be holding their actions, but I don't think that benefits us right now if it is clearing sandroba as a result. sandroba's filter aside, it makes sense that the cop check is legit from a numbers standpoint. As much as I hate to trust a player who is hardly playing the game, I'm likely choosing between sicklucker and tube. | ||
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On March 05 2015 10:28 sicklucker wrote: The cop could be real but its far less likely. The most obvious thing is that im town. So if hes real tube is mafia ill reread his filter at some point Do you find it more likely that we had one blue vig last night in a setup where we should be having at least six? | ||
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TL Mafia LXIII: 6 mafia 2 3p 10 blues TL Mafia LXIII: 6 mafia 4 blues Storm 2: 5 mafia 2 3p 8 blues TL Mafia LXVIII: 5 mafia 6 blues TL Mafia LXIX: 6 mafia 6 blues Jack of All trades 6 mafia 2 3p 1 blue? | ||
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On January 28 2015 21:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Those points can be spent buying roles for their faction. Unless of course I'm misinterpreting this statement and it is possible for a town spirit to buy a role for a player outside their faction. | ||
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On March 06 2015 19:43 Mocsta wrote: Has anyone read rsoultin filter to see if she talked abotu a possible ninja? Who cares. Also, based on the fact that a town spirit can buy a mafia player a role, I'm going to assume that sandroba did indeed receive a cop check last night, but that doesn't give us anything about his alignment. Back to the drawing board. | ||
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On March 06 2015 23:53 Onegu wrote: Ugg I just don't see why a scum sandroba checks/fake checks me as green? Like why not red check someone out of the cell? That way it's at least a 2for 1... And then depending on what lynch catgories come up it could be days before his check flips. Letting him live on a cop claim. Just doesn't make sense for a scum in my cell to give me a green check, when one of the most vocal players (Geript) would be pushing for my lynch. For the sake of argument, if sandroba is mafia does it really matter to him who gets lynched out of the three so long as he saves himself and the other three are all town? | ||
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Sandroba jumps on Mocsta's case against breshke, but the only thing he adds to the case turns out to be a misread. On March 04 2015 06:24 sandroba wrote: However that would be lazy and I'm not feeling particularly lazy right now. After I point out that sandroba is lazy when scum, he goes out of his way to post this, but doesn't do much to show otherwise. Following the your mom flip, he calls the shot awful yet never shared his opinion prior to the shot. He claimed he would be shooting at the 24 hour mark, admits the rayn shot was terrible, but doesn't attempt to make his preferred shot first. Setup balance suggests the cop check is legit, but doesn't say much about his alignment. Sandroba has 6 posts on day two, 5 are about his cop check. Little to no scum hunting efforts, which he blames on availability. Sicklucker Has trouble keeping his story straight when claiming to not know about roles from spirits, yet asking for a gun during day one. His priorities shift pretty dramatically when learning that he is a member of the cell and has to fight for survival. He goes after sandroba pretty hard, with little consideration that tube may be mafia, a player he hadn't even mentioned earlier. He puts a lot of effort in reinforcing the fact that he is obvious town. He references the town role PM which mafia have knowledge of, he references his ignorance about the spirit roles, he brings up that his relationship with tube should be a town tell for us, he mentions several times that he doesn't get lynched as town. His mafia list are the process of elimination cell members and the afks/trolls. He produced a similar list in one of the mafia games I read. I'm eliminating tube right now since he looks a bit better to me than on day one. Maybe I'll be kicking myself postgame. Based on the bullet points above, I'm leaning towards voting sandroba. A lot of the sicklucker points could go either way as town or mafia. I wouldn't be totally shocked if we ran into another one of sandroba's no show town games though. If someone (other than sicklucker) wants to shed light to the above thoughts or point out something I'm not seeing, please share. | ||
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On March 07 2015 01:30 geript wrote: My experience is that as mafia he does absolutely nothing and waits to be AFK lynched. That's not what I see here. Could you elaborate? I think even sandroba would admit that he has done close to nothing, yet you come to the town conclusion. | ||
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On March 07 2015 02:12 geript wrote: Like I've never played with Sandro's town game, but I've never seen him recognize contrasting information about people. Whether it's your point on misreading Breshke or look at meta or anything. sandroba's point about Breshke was that Breshke concluded sandroba was mafia. I pointed out that Breshke came to the opposite conclusion. So if I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that a mafia sandroba would refuse to acknowledge the text that refutes his point? | ||
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sandroba I asked you a couple times about your comment about your mom. If you felt it was an awful shot, why didn't you saying anything ahead of time? Also why did you change your mind about deadline shooting if your mom was the target? | ||
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The math would be without replacement so in the 64% range, but that is besides the point ?/QUOTE]And while this is completely irrelevant, the calculation assumes that 1 mafia was randomly selected and the remaining 3 slots were randomly selected from the pool. In reality, you probably want to assume that 4 players were randomized and rerolled until at least one was mafia, which would be a bit different XD | ||
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On March 07 2015 05:03 sandroba wrote: I didn't go much into it because I didn't think anyone would actually shoot him but, I did mention it. Not sure what's your point though. Not sure if this is response to me or not, but this is what I'm asking about: On March 04 2015 08:52 sandroba wrote: Rayn I'm torn about right now, his shot was awful Why did you not comment earlier about rayn's arguments if you felt this way? | ||
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On March 07 2015 06:28 Half the Sky wrote: I'm not trying to be cynical here, but did you flip a coin or are you going off the copcheck? You know what's funny? I did flip a coin earlier in the day and it told me to vote sandroba. I'm going against fate here XD I'm actually ignoring the cop check here. I think the cop check is legit, but a town spirit can give a role to any faction and I think sandroba probably claims the check as any faction. I know he didn't follow through, but sandroba claiming to shoot at the start of day one is a high risk policy as scum. sandroba is the type of player willing to make high risk players though which is why I'm back and forth so much. SL got really worked up after the cop check. I'm wondering if he felt that he would lose straight up against tube which is why he went strong against sandro. The whole "I didn't know about roles in this game so I'm town" thing still bothers me. As town your posts are genuine, but as mafia you can lose track of what you've said earlier. meh at least the deadline is interesting this cycle | ||
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On March 07 2015 06:14 Tubesock wrote: Also, if you understood what he's really saying, then you'd understand what he's really doing and what that really means. Do you feel that it is beneficial not to interpret what "he's really saying" for the rest of us? | ||
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On March 07 2015 07:12 sicklucker wrote: Last 5 votes on me in order Slam Kita Hts Obi Those are the most likely mafia if my theorys right. Kita might be a wrong town but hes in bad company Rebel souls, deserters we are called Chose a gun and threw away the Son Now these towns, they all know our name 6-gun sound is our claim to fame I can hear them say Bad company And I won't deny Bad, bad company 'Til the day I die, oh, yeah 'Til the day I die | ||
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Does the 3 players have to be town for the mayor to get a shot or...? | ||
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On March 08 2015 08:12 Fecalfeast wrote: afaik if the mission passes mayor gets the shot regardless of the alignment of the people on the mission. So how does resistance differ from the normal mayor election? Why would we vote against the mayor once he is chosen? | ||
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Obviously we all vote pass regardless of who is selected as the mayor. Seems that either sandroba or onegu are the options today. Vote me mayor and I'll shoot sandroba. We figure out onegu/geript's alignment afterwards. Need to reread tube just to verify that this is the right play. | ||
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I guess the only thing that remains is identifying 3 town players for the mission? | ||
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On March 08 2015 12:12 batsnacks wrote: Nvm I actually thought about it and you are a good mayor vote. I'm still voting me though. Just remember to return by the end of the cycle to move your vote over to the consensus. | ||
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On March 08 2015 12:23 LightningStrike wrote: So since we got a red check on Geript guys who you think is Mafia by association? Assuming the onegu check on geript isn't just a trick to endgame us today (which is really a possibility considering the reaction from geript), I'd say the mafia team is probably in this group. [b]LightningStrike batsnacks Alakaslam Fecalfeast Kurumi Sandroba geript Sepulchre (?) | ||
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On March 08 2015 13:10 Onegu wrote: With geripts reaction how is that a possibility? Also I'm like 90% sure at this point sandaroba is town. Geript was pushing my lynch so hard and people were listening to him, why would he let scum sandaroba green check me? Well geript claims mafia, we elect you as a result, game would end. Thoughts on my list? | ||
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On March 08 2015 13:15 Sepulchre wrote: You make no sense at all. You think the game will end if we elect Onegu, but you don't think Onegu is mafia. It was all an elaborate plan by the mafia team but Onegu is town anyway? It sounds a lot like you're just making things up as you go. lol why so hostile? I'm saying if onegu is mafia, the game is probably over. My list is based on the assumption that onegu is not mafia. | ||
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On March 08 2015 13:21 batsnacks wrote: Will you vote me for mayor? I'd make a really good mayor, you know. You would make a perfect Mayor McCheese. ![[image loading]](https://textbookstop.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/mayor_mccheese_mcdonalds_character.jpg) | ||
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On March 08 2015 13:33 Sepulchre wrote: I don't care about your list, except for the fact that Onegu isn't on it. I also don't particularily care for useless bickering for that matter. Again, why are we going to lose by electing Onegu if he is not mafia? I never said that? You would consider providing a list your mafia reads to be useless bickering? | ||
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On March 08 2015 13:35 Breshke wrote: kita is sep very likely town considering geript basically tried to get the ninja to shoot him? yeah that's why I had the question mark. I'm pretty sure no ninja would ever fall for that so it might be a play to disconnect the two, but I'd need to think about it more at some point. | ||
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On March 08 2015 16:04 Breshke wrote: I assume it needs unanimous success because it's called resistance where in most cases if there is one fail the mission fails Well resistance format would also allow onegu to nominate himself I would think. We should probably get clarification at some point. | ||
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On March 09 2015 01:14 IAmRobik wrote: Told you you're an idiot syllogism meh probably a mafia message anyways. | ||
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sicklucker (10): Onegu, Sepulchre, geript, Breshke, Sandroba (6): Onegu (1): Kurumi Tubesock (2): batsnacks, sicklucker Not voted (1): Keirathi It kinda seems like mafia were sitting back when it was close and then town piled the votes onto sicklucker near the end. | ||
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On March 09 2015 07:43 Breshke wrote: So everyone on the sandroba vote looks really good and is probably town because IIRC most of them weren't around at lnch time and wouldn't have known which way it was going to swing. Including Fecal? | ||
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On March 05 2015 01:32 geript wrote: FF I've kinda ignored ever since Robik townread him. The reason I ask is because geript felt compelled to bring him up without saying anything about him. | ||
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On March 08 2015 23:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Vote Count Onegu (8): Onegu, Sepulchre, Tubesock, Breshke, LightningStrike, kitaman27, Keirathi, FecalFeast batsnacks (1): batsnacks Alakaslam (1): Alakaslam Not Voted (2): AT.Epiphany, Kurumi As I said before, there are 8 town remaining and 5 mafia. If Epi and Kurumi are town it is 6 town vs 5 mafia. If you're town, you need to vote together or we lose. If you're mafia, keep doing your thing. | ||
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On March 10 2015 05:33 Keirathi wrote: It really doesn't matter that much I think. If he is town and mafia pile on him at the deadline, they still don't control the mission, he does. Granted I have no idea who he would take, so he could throw, but if he just copies onegus list it would probably be fine. And if he's mafia, it still doesn't matter. No one else is going to vote for him, so even if all mafia switch, there's not enough to control the mission. Also since you haven't said really anything all game, especially during the last two day cycles....do you have any scum reads or are we stuck guessing your alignment? | ||
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Furthermore, if you're going to enforce a rule like that with no exceptions, how about the fact that both keirathi and kurmi missed a vote in a game where voting is mandatory? Kurumi didn't even post during day three, yet you kill epi for the same reason. If you're going to make an exception to the voting rule and let people off with a warning, isn't enforcing the onegu modkill is a bit harsh? Town got 2 mislynches in a 6 mafia setup? Eww. | ||
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On March 10 2015 09:03 Toadesstern wrote: btw, I saved your ass n1 from being shot and you did get shot! get killed n1, protected a townie from being shot. I did my job Thanks <3 Lynch mechanics were interesting at least. A couple were based on availability at the exact time of the deadline, which is a bit unfair to people. I'm not really sure that the 4 third party kp really fit in the setup though. They make the game pretty swingy that way and I'm not sure they made the game much more interesting. I'll have to check out the spirit roles. Grats to mafia team | ||
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On March 05 2015 08:49 sicklucker wrote: Like theres no town roles we all got a green font "town" pm obviously mafia didnt know that. I have to admit I was really influenced by this post on day two. I couldn't imaging a world where a town player would try to cheat like that or where he wouldn't be insta-modkilled, but I suppose it would be unfair to mafia to modkill a cell member and it's my fault for trying to read into mod actions a bit too much. Any chance we could get an action list? Not really clear how the powers were distributed based on the qt. Also pretty funny that everyone was so convinced I was a ninja XD | ||
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On March 10 2015 09:29 Keirathi wrote: I'm not really sure what is mod-killable about that? AFAIK, it's always been permissive to claim your role PM as long as you don't copy-paste it in thread. And mafia was given the same role pm, and same sample fake pm. Unless I'm missing something :o I was under the impression it broke this one: Breadcrumbing the specific phrasing of your role PM. Do not compare the phrasing in your role PM to prove your alignment. Especially the discussion of the format since I know several people have been banned for that in the past and every host may not include the color of the text in the sample PM. Not that it would have made a difference though it seems. | ||
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On March 04 2015 07:59 IAmRobik wrote: ##Shoot lightningstorm I blame Robik for the loss | ||
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On March 10 2015 09:46 Toadesstern wrote: geript what you wrote about robik was absolutely bullshit: holding his shot was always a 100% lose for Robik because it was endgame before reaching d3 EVEN WITH double mafia kill on d2. It was between shooting mafia and killing the ninja during n2. If he had no idea who the other ninja was he has to shoot mafia to at least try and avoid endgame, even if unlikely. He proably should not have claimed though. I think he should have shot in that situation but not at sandroba since he was almost certainly mafia at that point. If I were him I would have shot into the scummiest ninja suspect. Maybe someone like kurumi or slam where they had a decent chance of being third party, but the game wouldn't end if he was wrong. After the shot, claiming isn't all that bad since the 2nd ninja had already shot. It informs mafia not to shoot him and town not to lynch him. | ||
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On March 10 2015 09:52 Half the Sky wrote: Not to mention that Kitaman was dead on about mafia placing their votes early and that town was entirely responsible for the fuckup at the end (myself notwithstanding). Kita, how did you know not to blame any of us when the rest of us were pointing fingers at each other? God tier reads? Mostly because we were all in the same boat about seeing them both as scummy and struggling to make a decision. Mafia have a tougher time showing that because their either choosing between mislynch or bus and typically don't go back and forth with their read. Plus you were actually reading the thread, when people like kurumi were afk trolling with the onegu vote. On March 10 2015 09:57 Half the Sky wrote: Herd mentality/sheeping Kita. As in he was considering mechanics in his decision. Well after Artanis clarified that the town spirit could buy mafia roles, I think the mechanic argument was dropped. As a side note, credit to geript for hard defending sandroba with that "meta" read. That was pretty silly sounding. I also found it kinda funny that he was talking about killing off the third party ninjas, yet had earlier talked about how much he read The Mafia mafia were we essentially won by killing off the third parties XD | ||
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Ninja's with a night check to determine whether or not their target is a ninja probably works out more smoothly so they aren't shooting blind. | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:14 sicklucker wrote: Ive been scum in like two artanis games I know he always gives fakeclaims. I was just annoyed that so many people were like OMG HES THE COP WE CANT LYNCH HIM. When he was not a cop he had a 1time check Yeah fair enough. Now that hosts are getting better about giving fake claims it's less of an issue. In the past, this was pretty rare though and a player could instantly confirm themselves with either the phrasing, format, time of role PM or sender of role PM. Sorry for the mislynch | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:24 geript wrote: Yup. We cop checked LS. In hindsight, we should've cop checked a random to find out if ninja. But eh. We were thinking about setting up a double bus. Oh and I got a vigi shot. Thank's Foolishness I had to shoot my dear friend Rayn. It brought tears to my eyes.It would have been pretty funny if onegu flipped as ninja at some point. | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:29 geript wrote: Yah that would've been hilarious. BTW, why didn't you pick up on any of the random Demon's Run posts I made like all over the place. I even used the word backstabby. I was really surprised that you were town because I just figured that you knew I was claiming mafia to you and you didn't comment on it whatsoever. lol even after you made this post I still wasn't sure what Demon's Run refers to until I had to look it up. I guess I think of it as PTP IV in my head XD | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:37 geript wrote: BUT I SAID BACKSTABBY!!! You don't remember responding to the mafia QT as: "That looks all backstabby." No, I do not remember a random post I made in 2013. I better get checked for Alzheimer's. | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:41 geript wrote: But it's a memorably random post. So next time remember. I'll be claiming mafia to you so you don't shoot and and so that we can talk about working together better. I'm never working together with you again. You're too backstabby. | ||
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Hehe to be fair, you use the logic that you know you're town and you read the other as town, therefore sandroba must be mafia. Players outside of the cell can't use that method of process of elimination. I would have loved to be included with tube, onegu, and sandroba on day two. It's not that all of us didn't care, we just got it wrong. | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:59 Toadesstern wrote: I mean Sandro really isn't that hard to read... and if you're unsure, wait until d3 and lynch him if he's still alive. Having TL Mafia LXVI as his most recent town game really didn't help the cause. Sometimes tough to tell between "I'm not posting because I'm too busy" and "I'm not posting because I'm mafia". His lazy post about Breshke should have probably made the difference I suppose. | ||
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