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On March 04 2015 08:12 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 08:05 IAmRobik wrote:
THIS IS ABSURD ASDAF ASDIOFASDNOIFASNIDOF NI
I LITERALLY DIDN'T GET MY SHOT COUNTED BECAUSE I SAID "STORM" INSTEAD OF "STRIKE"
DASFNIOASDFNIOSADFASDFASDFASDNIOASDFIONFASIODFIOASNDFIONASIO I am willing to bet VEs balls on this being fake. Lynch robik imo. Someone who really wants to shoot doesn't just get the name wrong. He sits there waiting with the text prepared making sure he gets his shot off. The shot robik did was faked and so is that post.
Judging by the loud acusations and further agro response on being acused I think it was an honest mistake. Rayn I'm torn about right now, his shot was awful, but his activity prior and subsequent silence after missing is pointing to town.
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On March 04 2015 08:47 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 08:41 geript wrote:
@Damdred, Rayn, Kita and Sandroba
I want you to post your thoughts on the following people:
Obiwanshinobi
Batsnacks
Sepulchre
Onegu
Oatsmaster
Toad you can chime in on this too. I want to bounce ideas off of people and these are the people I'm the least sure of right now.
From memory OWS bat onegu have all being really underwhelming. All have been flying under the radar and it's likely that there are 1-2 mafia lying in that group. Oats I don't think even posted once unless I missed it, so I'd like to give him a bit of time to come in the thread and give his thoughts.
The only one I heavily lean town on is sepulchre because of his big intro post which I really liked.
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@rsoultin reasons for thinking LS was a bad shot?
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@geript I would add kei to that group too
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On March 04 2015 09:00 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 08:47 geript wrote:On March 04 2015 08:41 geript wrote:
@Damdred, Rayn, Kita and Sandroba
I want you to post your thoughts on the following people:
Obiwanshinobi
Batsnacks
Sepulchre
Onegu
Oatsmaster
Toad you can chime in on this too. I want to bounce ideas off of people and these are the people I'm the least sure of right now. all pretty much in the same boat for being under the radar. I wouldn't be able to distinguish between any of them readwise atm. Would make for good vig shots in general if we have any.
You don't think sep is town?
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Sorry man I'd disagree on that one. That big wall of reads he made does not look like stream of consciousness at all and is the sole reason I'm pursuing this.
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On March 04 2015 09:13 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 09:09 sandroba wrote:
Sorry man I'd disagree on that one. That big wall of reads he made does not look like stream of consciousness at all and is the sole reason I'm pursuing this. you are right, I did indeed mix up names there... + Show Spoiler [sicklucker] +On March 04 2015 05:32 Toadesstern wrote:sicklucker seems like a really good shot to me right now. Under the rader, only doing 1 line posts, none of them do anything, only talking about mechanics or something that looks like something but isn't actually because he refuses to do the extramile and do some analysis, like: Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 15:54 sicklucker wrote:On March 03 2015 15:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote:On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote:
So here's my scumread on Geript:
Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler.
It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread.
1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus.
2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out.
3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes.
4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me).
1) He suggested we nominate someone to shoot so i don't think that he is trying to avoid us lynching a consensus 2) He then later stated that he ment he doesn't care if we shoot mafia or 3p 3)Isn't trying to debunk any plan useful as it can show any weakpoints it has? Yes it could be frustrating but yeah. 4) I dont think this is true. Yeah vets seem to listen to other vets more than newbies but with geript gunning for some of them (rayn for example) how do you think he can count on them to back him? On March 03 2015 14:05 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:59 Damdred wrote:
....we aren't even interested in talking about t device, fuck the device we are scum hunting to figure out a shot.
I will yolo shoot you so please actually contribute now that you got that out of your system You should be, I've scum-read you as well now, because you insta-voted PRESS and are trying to avoid discussion. You are most likely scum as well, and I am just as willing to shoot you. Stop threatening the newbie. I ain't backing down to this behaviour. You say you are a newbie here yet you seem to think you know geripts meta fairly well which doesn't really add up. Also I don't like that you promised to talk about the shot before damdred started going hard against you which led me to believe you had thoughts on people other than him yet what you have posted is mostly from after you said you would give thoughts which leads me to believe you had nothing at the time yet you got angry at geript for not waiting for you to post. Im not sure if im making sense or not but if you could give reads on other people that would probably help. I spent the last 40 minutes combing the database for Geript's games. I'm new here it doesn't make me stupid. I'll respond to the rest after I've cooled down a bit, because Geript's abuse has rubbed me the wrong way. Confirmed town or mafia smurf! what's that even telling us Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 18:24 sicklucker wrote:
Rayn just tell everyone to shoot koshi. Whoever shoots anyone besides koshi with out an insane reason is claiming mafia more of pretending he's doing something as in "see I totally have a read, it's Koshi" without doing anything. It's not his read on Koshi or what he's posting really, it's the elusive not really afk but just enough under the radar that deserves a shot imo. gimme some time to look at that guy in that case 
You quoted the post I was responding to rsoultin so I don't know if you got it right. To be clear I think sepuclchre is town and LS is scum.
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On March 04 2015 09:18 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 09:15 IAmRobik wrote:On March 04 2015 09:04 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2015 09:00 sandroba wrote:
@rsoultin reasons for thinking LS was a bad shot? also in my filter really you guys you sadden me stream-of-consciousness posting is what makes me think he's town, that i'm gonna say everything in my head as soon as it occurs to me with no filter type of posting...and the little nitnoids y'all like to ping him on are just that, little nitnoids that he can do as town or scum except the list didn't have that at all. in fact the premise of the list is to not be stream of consciousness posting :/ His posting in general has been stream-of-consciousness. Duh the list wasn't. Your point?
I know this isn't directed at me, but my point is that mafia doesn't give themselves alway in every post, they actually try to post like they are town. Finding those gems is what counts when trying to catch them.
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I actually compared his meta after my gaffe and this game he is much more similar to his town meta. wishywashyness points to town in his case.
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This is convinient. I have a green check on Onegu so that narrows it down to sl or tube. I'll be back later when I have time to catch up.
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Okay so I won't have much time to post unfortunatelly because I'm preparing for a trip to the US on the weekend. I indeed recieved a cop check from town spirit and decided to check onegu because there wasn't much filter and that's how I find cop checks to be the most effective. To be honest, from the little I was able to catch up I don't know which of sl or tube (or both) is scum. I'm inclined to say both, which would make more sense given the direction they chose to take on this.
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On March 06 2015 01:40 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 08:56 sandroba wrote:
From memory OWS bat onegu have all being really underwhelming. All have been flying under the radar and it's likely that there are 1-2 mafia lying in that group. Oats I don't think even posted once unless I missed it, so I'd like to give him a bit of time to come in the thread and give his thoughts.
The only one I heavily lean town on is sepulchre because of his big intro post which I really liked. Sandroba, few questions for you, we have a few people who questioned Sepulchre on his followup posts and some did not like his followup posts. Now Geript claims to have shot him last night. Do you have any thoughts on people scumming Sep or has your read on Sep since changed? If so, how? Also you targetted three people for having "underwhelming filters" and LS for being scum because you didn't like his list post. I see Kita's already asked this to an extent, but I also feel the same here - do you have any other scum reads at this point in time?
The way I see it either sep is ninja or geript is lying. I don't see him being a medic or bp vest target. I'm gonna wait and see what sep has to say for himself before I say anything about my updated read.
I still think LS is scum, bat and kei are likely scum and one or both of tube and sl are scum for sure. Reads are all based on d1 though, didn't have much time to read d2, just skimmed the thread a bit.
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On March 06 2015 05:24 IAmRobik wrote:SANDROBA. ANSWER ME Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 05:19 IAmRobik wrote:On March 06 2015 05:16 sandroba wrote:
Okay so I won't have much time to post unfortunatelly because I'm preparing for a trip to the US on the weekend. I indeed recieved a cop check from town spirit and decided to check onegu because there wasn't much filter and that's how I find cop checks to be the most effective. To be honest, from the little I was able to catch up I don't know which of sl or tube (or both) is scum. I'm inclined to say both, which would make more sense given the direction they chose to take on this. Please explain how you know which spirit it came from. My message said NOTHING about which spirit it was from. That's why I'm scared that the gun could be fabricated and why I'm unwilling to shoot it.
I assumed a cop check comes from a town spirit.
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Hmm this is interesting. If you have been given a gun and me a cop check, what's the thing we both have in common? We were both suspicious of LS. Maybe town spirit agrees with us.
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On March 06 2015 05:29 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 01:40 Half the Sky wrote:On March 04 2015 08:56 sandroba wrote:
From memory OWS bat onegu have all being really underwhelming. All have been flying under the radar and it's likely that there are 1-2 mafia lying in that group. Oats I don't think even posted once unless I missed it, so I'd like to give him a bit of time to come in the thread and give his thoughts.
The only one I heavily lean town on is sepulchre because of his big intro post which I really liked. On March 04 2015 09:02 sandroba wrote:
You don't think sep is town? Sandroba, few questions for you, we have a few people who questioned Sepulchre on his followup posts and some did not like his followup posts. Now Geript claims to have shot him last night. Do you have any thoughts on people scumming Sep or has your read on Sep since changed? If so, how? Also you targetted three people for having "underwhelming filters" and LS for being scum because you didn't like his list post. I see Kita's already asked this to an extent, but I also feel the same here - do you have any other scum reads at this point in time? The way I see it either sep is ninja or geript is lying. I don't see him being a medic or bp vest target. I'm gonna wait and see what sep has to say for himself before I say anything about my updated read. I still think LS is scum, bat and kei are likely scum and one or both of tube and sl are scum for sure. Reads are all based on d1 though, didn't have much time to read d2, just skimmed the thread a bit.
One more thing to add to support this is that I recieved my power in the begging of the night and I assume everyone else did too. So any spirit wouldnt have time to react to geript saying he would shoot sep and give him a vest in response. So that furthers my belief that sep is either ninja or geript is lying.
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I may not have time to spam the thread saying that one person is scum, but I think I can get my point across with the little time I have.
So I took some time to look at SL and tube's filter from day 1 and I found both extremely similar. Both start up going for the easy target koshi then end up "sheeping rayn" on his read on your mom. SL produces very little except from those two reads and tube despite creating his voting thing about the dayvig shot hardly commits to it at all. It's even hard to tell what person he actually wants to kill by the end of the day.
And comes d2 both are 100% certain the other is town despite day 1 both being on 2 dead townies. And guess what, they are both spamming the thread trying to get another townie killed today aswel. They are both pretty tied together in "reads" and agenda and this is pretty clear to anyone who pays attention. Yes, I'm about 95% certain both of them are mafia and voting for either of them is a good option at this point.
At first I found a little weird the reaction that SL gave when I announced my cop check, but now realising that it implicated both him and his partner it all makes sense in my head.
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out of the votes on me I think oats and mocsta are being stupid and the rest are shaddy as fuck. Wouldn't be surprise if there is at least 4 mafia in there.
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@town spirit If somehow I get lynched you should give out vigis if you can to 2 people not voting for me, 1 in the lower half of the player list and the other in the top half of the player list. Top half should shoot tube and bottom half shoots SL so you both don't stack.
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On March 07 2015 04:39 geript wrote:
Really Sandro? Really? I don't get it. Wat? The same bastard hosting bullshit from Tube/SL?
Fuck this. Fuck this. I'm giong to get food and call an HR guy. I'm done arguing over this shit. I'm done.
Did you actually do the math on this? Assuming 1 spot is taken by mafia and the rest of the spots are ramdomized there is actually 1 - (14/20^3) = 75,7% chance another spot in the cell is taken by mafia.
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Actually I realize i did the math wrong and it's actually 14/19 which makes it 71% but yeah, I think you get my point.
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