EPTOn January 21 2015 19:18 KelsierSC wrote:
here is my case on damdred
This was the initial case I started on d1.
dam sheeping onto oats late etc.
There is more discussion in my filter so hopefully you can make your minds up.
So then Dam gets mad at me, understandably I had been asking him a lot of questions.
No follow up to this.
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So I sit back, and i'm like well if he is town I will give him some space and he can go on the hunt...
Does this happen....No not really
The next thing he posts is several hours later, he just attempts a further bury attempt on SL.
So then I ask him why SL is mafia. I was pretty curious about the late comers to the wagon
I mean weird anger, is an interesting reason
how can he be skeptical thatthe pressure fell off marv so fast. Damdred had mentioned that marv was likely town and he hadn't been pressuring marv at all.
He is annoyed for SL not keeping the pressure on marv, but it is impossible to consider there was any pressure on him really because I asked Dam if he was pressuring marv he said "no, but i will tomorrow" that never happened. He never followed it up so all the pressure that existed was whatever the fuck viv was doing. The reason seems disingenous.
Then we come to Dam's list. I think the only scum read there is SL. Which was just mimicing what a lot of the thread thought and everyone else was town/null. This is hardly scum reading or putting in effort.
Again since that point he has said things like
Trying to traffic cop shit, but he hasn't done anything like scum hunting at all and whenever the conversation drifts from him he just disappears
A good lynch today
here is my case on damdred
This was the initial case I started on d1.
dam sheeping onto oats late etc.
There is more discussion in my filter so hopefully you can make your minds up.
So then Dam gets mad at me, understandably I had been asking him a lot of questions.
No follow up to this.
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So I sit back, and i'm like well if he is town I will give him some space and he can go on the hunt...
Does this happen....No not really
The next thing he posts is several hours later, he just attempts a further bury attempt on SL.
So then I ask him why SL is mafia. I was pretty curious about the late comers to the wagon
I mean weird anger, is an interesting reason
how can he be skeptical thatthe pressure fell off marv so fast. Damdred had mentioned that marv was likely town and he hadn't been pressuring marv at all.
He is annoyed for SL not keeping the pressure on marv, but it is impossible to consider there was any pressure on him really because I asked Dam if he was pressuring marv he said "no, but i will tomorrow" that never happened. He never followed it up so all the pressure that existed was whatever the fuck viv was doing. The reason seems disingenous.
Then we come to Dam's list. I think the only scum read there is SL. Which was just mimicing what a lot of the thread thought and everyone else was town/null. This is hardly scum reading or putting in effort.
Again since that point he has said things like
Trying to traffic cop shit, but he hasn't done anything like scum hunting at all and whenever the conversation drifts from him he just disappears
A good lynch today
Then you can add in a few more things
On January 21 2015 23:58 Damdred wrote:
HTS is probably town here, I looked at her filter here and at her filter in http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474146-newbie-mini-mafia-lx?user=Half the Sky&page=3. She is a lot less inquisitive in the newbie game where she is scum and really bites on scummy things there and pushes that angle, a lot more aggressive in that regard as well.
Here she asks questions wants people to hold off on votes on marv for instance to see what he can do when it would be a good time to jump on. Is super inquisitive about peoples reasoning's behind things here. She does push scummy things here but she does it in a very different way than in the scum game, instead of latching onto things here she looks at them and questions before doing anything with it. She does not lack conclusions to my eyes and seems to have a pretty clear flowing line of thought.
Overall not a good lynch at all, I would town her.
HTS is probably town here, I looked at her filter here and at her filter in http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474146-newbie-mini-mafia-lx?user=Half the Sky&page=3. She is a lot less inquisitive in the newbie game where she is scum and really bites on scummy things there and pushes that angle, a lot more aggressive in that regard as well.
Here she asks questions wants people to hold off on votes on marv for instance to see what he can do when it would be a good time to jump on. Is super inquisitive about peoples reasoning's behind things here. She does push scummy things here but she does it in a very different way than in the scum game, instead of latching onto things here she looks at them and questions before doing anything with it. She does not lack conclusions to my eyes and seems to have a pretty clear flowing line of thought.
Overall not a good lynch at all, I would town her.
On January 22 2015 07:17 Damdred wrote:
We shouldn't kill hrs I know he's town here.
We shouldn't kill hrs I know he's town here.
A reluctance to lynch hts d1, apparently Dam knows she is town.
Furthermore I can now add this to the list. Oats is Dam's main scum read D1
On January 22 2015 06:16 Damdred wrote:
we are lynching Oats today, I will put this in bullet points so that people can follow along
* Oats starts the game off by saying something is bad without any explanation and leaving the game.
* He comes back and defends his view which some agree with and some don't and never draws conclusions from this
* He never explains why he wants to lynch anyone or why he scum reads people
* During fights or arguments he adds fuel to the fire in SLs case he makes it very clear that he thinks SL is lying and heaps more pressure on him.
* Is not voting a scum read but came back said a case on him was bad put his vote down on the person who made the case said it was bad and left without explanation
* is not being controversial but more side lines and flying under the radar, is not scum hunting
Oats is scum vote for him.
we are lynching Oats today, I will put this in bullet points so that people can follow along
* Oats starts the game off by saying something is bad without any explanation and leaving the game.
* He comes back and defends his view which some agree with and some don't and never draws conclusions from this
* He never explains why he wants to lynch anyone or why he scum reads people
* During fights or arguments he adds fuel to the fire in SLs case he makes it very clear that he thinks SL is lying and heaps more pressure on him.
* Is not voting a scum read but came back said a case on him was bad put his vote down on the person who made the case said it was bad and left without explanation
* is not being controversial but more side lines and flying under the radar, is not scum hunting
Oats is scum vote for him.
This read kind of disappears d2 which is basically an auto day for everyone. Come back to d3.
Damdred's main read is on vivax but the read seems very opportunistic.
On January 26 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote:
I keep rereading the last few pages and Vivax really scares me, I mean bats is pretty unforgettable and in the background so he might be scum or just really busy. But this push by vivax reminds me so much of storm mafia 2 push he made on me to get my mislynch its making my skin crawl.
I read wile filter and I was actually wrong and was misrepresenting his push on SL a bit, for that I apologize. In that regard the point on him that he tried to sabotage the HTS lynch is wrong because he was trying to push what he seemed to think was a superior lynch over a weaker lynch and that is not alignment indicative at that point in the game, and he directly fought against shenanigans off of HTS which mafia would possibly consider (wifom bomb there because they didn't and what not). Its not as bad as I remembered his filter being, so i'd rather not lync him today.
I keep rereading the last few pages and Vivax really scares me, I mean bats is pretty unforgettable and in the background so he might be scum or just really busy. But this push by vivax reminds me so much of storm mafia 2 push he made on me to get my mislynch its making my skin crawl.
I read wile filter and I was actually wrong and was misrepresenting his push on SL a bit, for that I apologize. In that regard the point on him that he tried to sabotage the HTS lynch is wrong because he was trying to push what he seemed to think was a superior lynch over a weaker lynch and that is not alignment indicative at that point in the game, and he directly fought against shenanigans off of HTS which mafia would possibly consider (wifom bomb there because they didn't and what not). Its not as bad as I remembered his filter being, so i'd rather not lync him today.
I have asked him what is wrong with the pushes that vivax has done, but rather than address specific points he disagrees with, His main argument is that this "feels" like another game. Forgive me but you should have more concrete reasons for this, I ask him , he still has not responded.
What have I noticed today.
well oats and vivax seem to have a similar mindset and both dislike wilie.
Damdred is scum reading vivax and sort of town reading wilie. In my mind he should have a definite scum read on oats, especially due to the fact he scumread him d1, then dropped it. Instead he gives me this.
On January 27 2015 07:43 Damdred wrote:
If this is to e i'm not sure right now. I thought it was Wile but rereading his filter made me realize my reason for scum reading him was off and a lot of it had to do with him being an asshole at the time.
If this is to e i'm not sure right now. I thought it was Wile but rereading his filter made me realize my reason for scum reading him was off and a lot of it had to do with him being an asshole at the time.
Which is someone who is trying to keep their options open and avoid being lynched. I think this is the right lynch.
