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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 22:29 GMT
#1725
On January 25 2015 07:24 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:
On January 22 2015 19:17 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 22 2015 08:21 Breshke wrote:
So i can't be bothered to wait for LM to respond to my last question so im just going to go on.

On January 21 2015 22:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Breshke is scum.

There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options.

On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote:
So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.

Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.

For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia

5) DarthPunk (filter)
6) The Shining (filter)
8) LoneMeow (filter)
10) geript (filter)

So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).

So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.

I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in.


Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him.

The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest.

There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis.


Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel.


The bolded part gives me an impression that LM can see reason as to why i wouldn't have wanted to lynched geript or DP. This means that he must agree that they have done something townie or he is reading them town or whatever. But if you look at the reads list he just posted DP and Geript are both in his null category the same as the shining so from his PoV this doesn't make sense.




The bolded part meant I can understand why you might think it's not worth considering them (2 active players) over myself and The Shining (2 rather inactive players). It does not mean I think they should not be considered.

The biggest reason I'm reading your scum right now is that you don't seem to bother trying to verify your theory based on votes that I am scum using what I have posted in the game. Have you read my filter? Did you analyze the posts? What conclusions did you come to?


What play is there to analyse? You have done almost nothing this entire game.

At EoD1 you put your vote on jarjar because you town read GB. But you didn't want to lynch jarjar before that. I don't think a town just settles like that when there was still some time left during the day. Yes it was only 15 minutes i think so that's a harsh call but you were obviously around because you had time to switch to WW.

On January 19 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:27 LoneMeow wrote:
rsoultin, so if I somehow manage to convince you to not lynch me, and Trfel isn't viable either, who's the next best choice?


I've looked at GB. I can see the complaints, but I think they've been overstated.

I've looked at you and my main issue was you didn't seem to care. Trying to help me find a viable lynch would go a long way to help change that opinion.

I won't vote for JarJar or LS today. I don't like a push on Shining, either, though I'm less certain on him. WW I think is probably town or he has a weirdly aggressive scum game lol.

Getting itchy feelings about Damdred...can't pin down why.

I want to hear Geript's poe. He told me that he looks for towns when he plays instead of scum, and lynches from what's left. I'm not sure that I'm seeing that this game, tbh.


Definitely not lynching LightningStrike today.
Why not jarjarbinks? As a matter of fact, I do agree with that, but I want to hear your reasons.

I need to reread Damdred and geript.


On January 19 2015 06:36 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote:
It's like he was summoned. Did you look at what you said you would, LM?


Just got back and caught up, so not yet. Why are you voting Damdred? Any other reason than GlowingBear's case?


Here is twice where you have said you are going to specifically read damdred and geript yet you still have them in your nulls. Did you actually read their filters and not manage to pull an alignment lean one way or the other?

On January 22 2015 19:22 LoneMeow wrote:
Breshke, please give your current reads when you're around. A list is fine for now.



Town
Rsoultin
JarJar
Geript

Town lean
The shining

Null
Damdred
DP

Scum
LM

Obviously one of my nulls is wrong or im wrong on one of my town lean but im fairly sure geript and rsoultin are town

The lowest DP ends is usually null but more often I remember it more as Breshke giving him a soft town lean. I'm town, rsoultin' town, Shining's town. Like it makes no sense for a Damdred LM scum team. But he's happy about the LM lynch but isn't really thinking how it affects his reads. He's also not really flat analyzing based on filter alone.


hmmm okay. so...I don't know. a damdred LM scum team doesn't make sense, you're right. dp is in the same null category as damdred...

i'll have to see where else breshke has read dp, cause this post doesn't really illustrate your point.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 22:45 GMT
#1727
On January 25 2015 07:37 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 07:29 rsoultin wrote:
On January 25 2015 07:24 geript wrote:
On January 23 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:
On January 22 2015 19:17 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 22 2015 08:21 Breshke wrote:
So i can't be bothered to wait for LM to respond to my last question so im just going to go on.

On January 21 2015 22:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Breshke is scum.

There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options.

On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote:
So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.

Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.

For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia

5) DarthPunk (filter)
6) The Shining (filter)
8) LoneMeow (filter)
10) geript (filter)

So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).

So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.

I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in.


Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him.

The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest.

There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis.


Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel.


The bolded part gives me an impression that LM can see reason as to why i wouldn't have wanted to lynched geript or DP. This means that he must agree that they have done something townie or he is reading them town or whatever. But if you look at the reads list he just posted DP and Geript are both in his null category the same as the shining so from his PoV this doesn't make sense.




The bolded part meant I can understand why you might think it's not worth considering them (2 active players) over myself and The Shining (2 rather inactive players). It does not mean I think they should not be considered.

The biggest reason I'm reading your scum right now is that you don't seem to bother trying to verify your theory based on votes that I am scum using what I have posted in the game. Have you read my filter? Did you analyze the posts? What conclusions did you come to?


What play is there to analyse? You have done almost nothing this entire game.

At EoD1 you put your vote on jarjar because you town read GB. But you didn't want to lynch jarjar before that. I don't think a town just settles like that when there was still some time left during the day. Yes it was only 15 minutes i think so that's a harsh call but you were obviously around because you had time to switch to WW.

On January 19 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:27 LoneMeow wrote:
rsoultin, so if I somehow manage to convince you to not lynch me, and Trfel isn't viable either, who's the next best choice?


I've looked at GB. I can see the complaints, but I think they've been overstated.

I've looked at you and my main issue was you didn't seem to care. Trying to help me find a viable lynch would go a long way to help change that opinion.

I won't vote for JarJar or LS today. I don't like a push on Shining, either, though I'm less certain on him. WW I think is probably town or he has a weirdly aggressive scum game lol.

Getting itchy feelings about Damdred...can't pin down why.

I want to hear Geript's poe. He told me that he looks for towns when he plays instead of scum, and lynches from what's left. I'm not sure that I'm seeing that this game, tbh.


Definitely not lynching LightningStrike today.
Why not jarjarbinks? As a matter of fact, I do agree with that, but I want to hear your reasons.

I need to reread Damdred and geript.


On January 19 2015 06:36 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote:
It's like he was summoned. Did you look at what you said you would, LM?


Just got back and caught up, so not yet. Why are you voting Damdred? Any other reason than GlowingBear's case?


Here is twice where you have said you are going to specifically read damdred and geript yet you still have them in your nulls. Did you actually read their filters and not manage to pull an alignment lean one way or the other?

On January 22 2015 19:22 LoneMeow wrote:
Breshke, please give your current reads when you're around. A list is fine for now.



Town
Rsoultin
JarJar
Geript

Town lean
The shining

Null
Damdred
DP

Scum
LM

Obviously one of my nulls is wrong or im wrong on one of my town lean but im fairly sure geript and rsoultin are town

The lowest DP ends is usually null but more often I remember it more as Breshke giving him a soft town lean. I'm town, rsoultin' town, Shining's town. Like it makes no sense for a Damdred LM scum team. But he's happy about the LM lynch but isn't really thinking how it affects his reads. He's also not really flat analyzing based on filter alone.


hmmm okay. so...I don't know. a damdred LM scum team doesn't make sense, you're right. dp is in the same null category as damdred...

i'll have to see where else breshke has read dp, cause this post doesn't really illustrate your point.

3/4ths of the people who reasonably could be mafia with LM and the last being null doesn't illustrate that my point that his LM scum team makes no sense.


i'd just assume that was why dp was null, cause to me the only thing that had me wondering was his association with trfel and lm...so no, it doesn't really, since dp was in the null section.

which is why I need to find if his other posts with reads are generally towning dp; that would then make sense and illustrate your point
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 22:52 GMT
#1728
okay, I'm going to get something to eat, and reapproach this again late (since I obviously need to reconsider things ><)

if y'all have questions leave them in thread and I'll get to them

players not here during the lynch, your impressions on what happened would be nice
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 06:01 GMT
#1740
On January 25 2015 13:39 Damdred wrote:
I already said why I think shining is town, by POE those three are my most likely scum team. Shining is town i'm like 95% sure of it so its bresh and Rs im pretty sure.


Okay, so just to be clear here, you're going with all scum being on the town wagon (LM)?

Are you 100% sure that Breshke is scum? I'd like to see why.

I'm obviously not scum -_- Not only is it inherently wrong to say wrong always = scum, but the Breshke lynch was not the only lynch I resisted, which you should very well know. I didn't want to move onto you, Shining or Bresh. That you're trying to sell a scumteam of me and Bresh is almost as scummy as your sudden eagerness to jump to him when you'd been townreading him most of the 48 hrs leading up to the lynch.

The only reason I could have under those circumstances for trying to keep the lynch on LM was because I thought he was scum. Unless you're saying that there are four scum left.

That's just bad, Damdred. I'll look at Bresh again, cause clearly my reads aren't all right, but your eagerness to paint us both scum for a lynch on a town makes me think he isn't and you're trying to get one of us lynched Day 4 to win the game for your scum team.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 07:44 GMT
#1743
On January 25 2015 16:23 jarjarbinks wrote:
Ya I haven't used it this game. That model was based on EOD votes, dead peoples votes, and who dies at night. I first figured that if I could get enough games into the system, I could figure out if say voting for a town that gets lynched makes you any more likely to be scum or not. I was thinking about doing something like seeing how claiming or including votes that switch later affect a person's alignment as well, but those require more digging into every game and would take more time.

I only had 2 games in the system then and 3 now. I've been kind of lazy, mostly because it seems like all the people that play on here were very against it. Statistics are supposed to be used to help support things people normally see in the games. Since my numbers were going against common perception, I figured it was either:

You guys were wrong
OR
My model sucked some big balls.

I went with my model sucked some big balls.

I think if I had time to put in like 30 games to the model I might have something. But that's going to be a while. My 3 game model has it like this (baseline is 2/7 because theres two scum out of 7 people):

Me: 43% mafia... lol
Breshke: 41% mafia
Rsoultin: 31% mafia
Shining: 30% mafia
Everyone else: 29% mafia

This is without a +/- 3% buffer.

But like I said before, I'm not using this at all and for good reason. If I did, I would have still been genuinely confused because of the very large train Day1 and GB voting for me... lol


Don't know how right your model is there, bro, but if it's dependent on other people's reads, we're doing so well this game it might as well be trash -_- Sorry. Just irritated with myself.

Anyway, talk to me about what you think without the stats?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 07:55 GMT
#1746
EBWOP:

Unless votes are widely scattered, not everyone on a town mislynch is going to be scum, even if the counterwagon is scum. It's mathematically impossible. And I'm not convinced Breshke actually is scum. With town vs. town it's even less alignment indicative who was on the mislynch wagon.

I try to look at why people are voting what they're voting -_- Obviously that didn't work out so well for me this time.

Eh, going to bed. Revisit this with fresh eyes in the morning.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 08:00 GMT
#1747
On January 25 2015 16:47 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 16:23 jarjarbinks wrote:
Ya I haven't used it this game. That model was based on EOD votes, dead peoples votes, and who dies at night. I first figured that if I could get enough games into the system, I could figure out if say voting for a town that gets lynched makes you any more likely to be scum or not. I was thinking about doing something like seeing how claiming or including votes that switch later affect a person's alignment as well, but those require more digging into every game and would take more time.

I only had 2 games in the system then and 3 now. I've been kind of lazy, mostly because it seems like all the people that play on here were very against it. Statistics are supposed to be used to help support things people normally see in the games. Since my numbers were going against common perception, I figured it was either:

You guys were wrong
OR
My model sucked some big balls.

I went with my model sucked some big balls.

I think if I had time to put in like 30 games to the model I might have something. But that's going to be a while. My 3 game model has it like this (baseline is 2/7 because theres two scum out of 7 people):

Me: 43% mafia... lol
Breshke: 41% mafia
Rsoultin: 31% mafia
Shining: 30% mafia
Everyone else: 29% mafia

This is without a +/- 3% buffer.

But like I said before, I'm not using this at all and for good reason. If I did, I would have still been genuinely confused because of the very large train Day1 and GB voting for me... lol


So how much percentage points do everyone get?

I ask because I was interested in it at end of game; I mean it did have mafia as the #2,3 and 4 on the to lynch train.


He told you, geript ^^; The baseline is 2/7, which comes to 28.5714% or rounds up to 29%. That means if you were to completely randomly draw a name out of a hat they'd have a 29% chance of flipping scum.

It would help if you told us by how many percentage points each of those situations were increased, JarJar. Like, EoD votes on a town vs. a scum, the dead people scumreading still living players, and the night kills' reads on living players. Do you factor in town reads or just scum reads? Is it just the most recent opinion of the dead players? Do you look at the scum players reads? Things like that.

But yeah, he did already explain his model. The +/-3% is JJB's personal opinion of a player.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 08:50 GMT
#1750
On January 25 2015 17:33 Breshke wrote:
RSo did yout ake another look at my filter do you still think im town?

Also how sure are you on your the shining read are you sure you arnt jsut giving him a pass for being a newbie?

All that shit I said about DP seemingly defending LM from nothing i still think is true but he might just have seen something i didn't. Also he seemed genuinely happy when people started changing their votes to me so i have me hesitations.


Meh. I'm doubting myself a lot right now. I did look at your filter again and I just don't see it. Like, your Day 1 play didn't impress me, but nothing felt off about you at EoD. You looked like you had your scumread and were actively trying to push it. I've said multiple times you've looked a lot better since Day 1.

Both you and LM seemed suspicious of DP with an LM town flip. Shining thought LM was scum. You did. I did. JJB did. Geript agreed, too, but still didn't want to lynch him today for whatever reason. (He might have said it, but all I remember is him saying Damdred would be more satisfying.) Damdred thought he was scum.

DP thought he was town for a long time and I'm still not getting why. I need to reread the posts near EoD and am putting it off till tomorrow.

I'm kind of in the same camp as you. I'm inclined to wonder if it's TMI in regards to DP townreading LM. But I'm not sure if I just didn't see something obvious, or it's because DP is scum.

Shining...I just don't see Shining as scum. I have yet to see a post that jumps out at me from him that suggests he's scum, and his voting was pristine Day 1 too.

Damdred's weird reaction to the lynch has me all sorts of paranoid. I don't want to look at it now, though, cause part of it is entirely OMGUS, I'm not gonna lie. I honestly don't think he's this bad as to jump right to scumming whoever led a lynch on a town with nothing else to support it.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 09:23 GMT
#1754
On January 25 2015 18:18 DarthPunk wrote:
I'm not scum for Town reading LM. You are just bad for scum reading him.

Honestly. The dude looked townie day on because of the way he could change gears on his read with with new information proving his read wrong. Scum just don't change gears that fast in response to new information. They just don't.

I have explained all this before. I honestly STILL have no idea how all of you bads scum read him based on his filter.

AND HE WAS SHITTING TOWNIE RAINBOWS FROM HALFWAY THROUGH YESTERDAY.

Honestly.


You may be right. Obviously you were right that he was town.

I personally see nothing incredibly townie about changing your mind when you're told that you've completely flip-flopped the facts that is the basis for your read...however maybe that's a problem with my own understanding of how scum and town plays.

Nor do I see anything incredibly townie about a bunch of questions that lead nowhere.

I probably was not going to listen to him no matter what he said yesterday, and that's my own fault, but I'll take another look when I'm less irritated to see if it was glaring me in the face or not -_-

Do you have to yell all the time? I don't respond well to it ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 09:38 GMT
#1757
On January 25 2015 18:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 18:23 rsoultin wrote:
On January 25 2015 18:18 DarthPunk wrote:
I'm not scum for Town reading LM. You are just bad for scum reading him.

Honestly. The dude looked townie day on because of the way he could change gears on his read with with new information proving his read wrong. Scum just don't change gears that fast in response to new information. They just don't.

I have explained all this before. I honestly STILL have no idea how all of you bads scum read him based on his filter.

AND HE WAS SHITTING TOWNIE RAINBOWS FROM HALFWAY THROUGH YESTERDAY.

Honestly.


You may be right. Obviously you were right that he was town.

I personally see nothing incredibly townie about changing your mind when you're told that you've completely flip-flopped the facts that is the basis for your read...however maybe that's a problem with my own understanding of how scum and town plays.

Nor do I see anything incredibly townie about a bunch of questions that lead nowhere.

I probably was not going to listen to him no matter what he said yesterday, and that's my own fault, but I'll take another look when I'm less irritated to see if it was glaring me in the face or not -_-

Do you have to yell all the time? I don't respond well to it ^^


Scum are invested in their reads. It takes a lot of energy and time to build a safe read on someone as scum and you don;t want to just clear people who you could mislynch like he did.

Especially when you are newer it is DIFFICULT and time consuming to just backtrack like that as scum.

Which is why I thought it was townie. Then once he became engaged in the thread it was really obvious that he was town and I have multiple posts in my filter explaining why.

You could be right and it is an experience thing. Or you could be scum.

Like the way you refused to adjust or even contemplate adjusting your position on him is the DIRECT OPPOSITE of the townie thing that LM did.



-shrugs-

You've been wanting to scumread me all game. Enjoy. You have your opportunity. Shining and Breshke were never going to be my switches. Maybe Damdred. I know that I can be wrong, but I don't switch to townreads if I can avoid it -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 09:42 GMT
#1761
On January 25 2015 18:40 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 18:30 Breshke wrote:
On January 25 2015 18:18 DarthPunk wrote:
I'm not scum for Town reading LM. You are just bad for scum reading him.

Honestly. The dude looked townie day on because of the way he could change gears on his read with with new information proving his read wrong. Scum just don't change gears that fast in response to new information. They just don't.

I have explained all this before. I honestly STILL have no idea how all of you bads scum read him based on his filter.

AND HE WAS SHITTING TOWNIE RAINBOWS FROM HALFWAY THROUGH YESTERDAY.

Honestly.


Yeah i agree he looked more townie at the end of last day phase especially when he started reconsidering his read on me.

My point is i don't agree with how early you townread him and call me bad for that idc.

Do you agree we no lynch tomorrow DP?


Well I was right wasn't I? Like I town read him. I got him to engage with the thread and shit town rainbows and tried to not lynch him and I was right to do that. So I suppose it doesn't matter if you don't agree with my reasoning because it was correct.

Anyway I am not gonna talk about this anymore I will get too mad. If you want to know why I thought he was town read my filter.


Why do you want to no lynch?

Because you read on Mafia scum wiki that it was the correct mathematical play?

here is my position on no lynching.

We No lynch: Then scum are gonna shoot the most competent townie in the game which 1000% will be geript or myself. And then whoever out of geript and myself does not get killed will have to deal with an incompetent town with one less competent townie in the game.

So no. The idea of leaving things even further in the hands of you lot whilst praying you lynch the right person from the comfort of the OBS Thread does not fill me with confidence at all.



I don't know. A no-lynch may not be terrible just because it would have to give town extra information before trying to pick scum out of the remainder. Either way we have no more mislynches left.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 09:43 GMT
#1762
On January 25 2015 18:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway. Homework for everyone tonight is to take a look at everyone's filters with a fresh perspective and try and find a scum to lynch tomorrow.


No shit Sherlock -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 09:51 GMT
#1766
On January 25 2015 18:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 18:43 rsoultin wrote:
On January 25 2015 18:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway. Homework for everyone tonight is to take a look at everyone's filters with a fresh perspective and try and find a scum to lynch tomorrow.


No shit Sherlock -_-


I feel like I need to hold your hands at this point.


DP. Telling people in a game about finding scum to find scum is flat out condescension. If you've got nothing productive to say, please do us all a favor and keep it to yourself.

I've tried to ignore you and geript acting like you're the only ones in this game who are worth more than toilet paper, but it is becoming increasingly irritating as time goes on, and believe it or not it does actually interfere with reading the two of you. At least for me. So if you're town, cut it out.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 09:53 GMT
#1767
Considering you're a question mark for me DP, I have no objections -_-

Okay, I'm removing myself from this thread before it turns into more of a tit-for-tat.

Gnite Bresh. DP.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 15:46 GMT
#1769
On January 26 2015 00:22 Damdred wrote:
I've already explained why Geript is town, it's in the post.

And we aren't no lynching final group would be rs, bresh, jarjar, shinning,me. I'd rather have a non ark in there.

We lynch breath Tommorow then go from there.


Why do you not want to discuss this game at all?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 16:02 GMT
#1771
On January 26 2015 00:52 Damdred wrote:
I am discussing but if you ask me a question don't quote the answer when you ask it.

It's like people questioning dp, it was an inconvenient time for eod on a Sunday and he made it here to do thing a he's town.


Okay, let me explain my question here. We are talking about a lylo lynch. You have basically decided already who you are going to lynch with no real analysis to back it up other than: so-and-so is town therefore so-and-so is scum.

I mean, I expect someone like SL to be screaming about auto right now cause he's just a little (heh) irrational, but to me you making blanket statements and not backing it up with any analysis other than poe feels like you're not interested in figuring out this game.

Can scum not make it to EoD to do things?

Who is "confirmed town" to you and why?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 16:14 GMT
#1774
On January 26 2015 01:08 Damdred wrote:
Scumcan make it to eod, but if the time is a bit meh they won't bother especially with basically an auto lynch set up let alone try to shenanigans onto someone.

Geript and dp and jarjar are confirmed for me. Shining and myself are town I feel. So very little options.

Poe solves games sometimes, and it's pointing to besh and you. It is what it is.


You're wrong on at least one of us, which invalidates your poe.

JarJar is confirmed to me. I have reasons to townread Breshke and shining (could I be wrong, obviously yes) but I don't see this game nearly as black-and-white as you do.

I don't know anymore -_- Why are you townreading shining? Still feels?

Why have you been blindly townreading DP all game?

Why do you think the only place for scum on the lynch yesterday was LM's wagon?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 16:17 GMT
#1775
On January 26 2015 01:13 Damdred wrote:
And yes, Scum can pull people off of town. Day one it's not a bad play but the lynch to push us into Mylo when we basically auto lynching? No they want to hammer that through.

Sorta like how you were ok autolynching and lynching for info to go into mylo.


I thought LM was scum -_- Yell at me for how bad that read was if you want, but it was hardly autolynching.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 16:25 GMT
#1776
On January 26 2015 01:08 Damdred wrote:
Scumcan make it to eod, but if the time is a bit meh they won't bother especially with basically an auto lynch set up let alone try to shenanigans onto someone.

Geript and dp and jarjar are confirmed for me. Shining and myself are town I feel. So very little options.

Poe solves games sometimes, and it's pointing to besh and you. It is what it is.


...that is a very weird way to say you're town.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 16:35 GMT
#1778
On January 25 2015 06:22 Damdred wrote:
Also DP is like 99% never mafia, he made sure he was here EoD at a completely abysmal time for him. Sounds really crappy to clear someone on but its pretty true people who don't really care about the game won't show up, town has more reason to care.


On January 25 2015 06:41 Damdred wrote:
I"m not ok with a switch to shining, i'm ok with lynching breshke or LM here. A breshke scum complicates the game a bit and makes the last one hard to catch.


On January 25 2015 06:41 Damdred wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Breshke


Lets do this


On January 25 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
I'm wrong more often than not, LM is a lower activity player. And I could be tunneled, and i'm probably wrong about Geript.


On January 25 2015 06:51 Damdred wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474146-newbie-mini-mafia-lx

That's the game, he even targets setup speculation like he did with the medic talk.

I think breshke is a good lynch here but so is LM


On January 25 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
End game cred, scum team of Breshke and Rsoultin


All of that came from you before flip. It's like you were already setting up your "poe" in anticipation of LM flipping town.

On January 25 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:
Fing a ><

Okay, you win, DP, I suck at this lol ><


Lets lynch bres then rsoultin


On January 25 2015 07:11 Damdred wrote:
Geript is cleared he wouldn't pull a second mislynch off a town that's been an almost afk lynch as scum I think. Which is a bit of wifom but hes town, DP is town. So that really narrows down my focus. JarJar is confirmed

Shining, Breshke, Rsoultin.

There are two mafia in there. I think its Breshke and Rsoultin with his unwillingness to switch, LM was acting pretty towny eod.


What? That directly contradicts what you were saying before the lynch when you switched to bresh...
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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