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On January 25 2015 01:26 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 01:15 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 19:39 LoneMeow wrote:On January 24 2015 08:26 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 08:19 Breshke wrote:
RSo what scumteam are you most paranoid of? Lol, depends on the minute and who posted last sometimes  That's why I'm pushing LM who I'm fairly confident of. This vote should make the first day more clear, and hopefully give us new information to work with. Assuming I'm right on LM, I'm hoping to find the third scum after the vote Day 3. Or at least fully clear 1 or 2 more of my town leans. Please explain which of your town leans mislynching me would clear and why? This is a weird question LM. If I believed that you were town, I would not be pushing you for lynch. Assuming you're mafia, with two reds flipped it would bring a new dynamic to the Day 1 vote to evaluate, and also information from how the Day 2 vote goes, that might allow me to clear one or more of the people I'm not sure of. And if this is a mislynch, well...that's harder. So I'm hoping it's not. The fact of the matter is that based on the Day 1 vote, your behavior is the only behavior that doesn't read townie to me at all, in the sense I can't think of reasons that make it town. You said that you didn't have the time to know when WW voted vice trfel, but you were there at EoD while all the switching was going on. I can see getting a little lost (I did -_-), but that post read so very much like "oh, good lord, there is a reason that WW could be scum, yay now I can switch without looking scummy". I don't know how else to put it. I'm glad you're coming out now, but if you're town, it's probably too little, too late. Note the other less active players with small filters. They're in the thread making reads, asking questions, on a semi-regular basis. Your activity is more sporadic. It makes it hard for me to objectively look at you, look at them, and say hey that person is scum and LM is town. Give me a reason to believe a player here is more likely to be scum than you. Why is it a weird question? Your statement is essentially "if he flips town, it will give me the alignment of 1 or 2 players". What I am asking is you to explain whose alignments you can deduce from me flipping town, and the logic by which you would do so.
I said assuming I'm right on you, LM. I'm pushing you as scum. So my statement has nothing to do with you flipping town?
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On January 25 2015 00:52 Damdred wrote:
@JarJar, Rsoultin, JarJar and Dp are the towniest towns at this point.
The shining random change was as stated before was because of a misread of one of his posts. I thought he was pushing me scum with LM and voted JarJar I believe, when I just read the sentence wrong and it was between LM and JarJar. It was an easy mistake to make when phone reading and led to a scum read that when my mistake was realized the read had to changed based on that new information. Its like if DP said something like "IF I claimed cop we would lynch first claim" after someone had already claimed cop and I missed the IF (even though the sentence doesn't make sense) would make me scum read one of the two if I misread the statement, corrections must be made.
Theres not much to say about GB honestly, when you know that someone is town by the way they push something its just apparent. GB was boring before he started pushing his case, its a simple read but it is what it is. Once GB got to work it was apparent that he was town from the work and should of been obvious to the thread even if they weren't paying full attention. Plus I did give reasons like the push being similar to other games in tone and the feel of the push, even if DP disagreed the reasons were given so this is a bs reason to scum read me.
Being disconnected from the game overall isn't that subjective and it is true. Geript hasn't really been that involved past a point and forgets about posts or seemily skips over posts and just seems dissatisfied when hes in game during certain points. That's a form of disconnect i'm sorry to say.
Im sticking on LM here
Okay, so...LM brought up a good point on your geript reads. I noticed that you brought up some of the same things I questioned geript on when you came to the conclusion that he was probably scum: i.e. the red check reaction, the way he handled his trfel scumread (that could be town), etc.
So what made you change your mind? What made you start looking at him as scum, specifically? Your reasons obviously I can understand if I found them odd as well...but several things he mentioned about you I've also found odd xP My question is at what moment, at what particular post, did you go wait. I think this may not be town geript. I need to look at him closer.
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On January 25 2015 01:39 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 01:33 rsoultin wrote:On January 25 2015 01:26 LoneMeow wrote:On January 25 2015 01:15 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 19:39 LoneMeow wrote:On January 24 2015 08:26 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 08:19 Breshke wrote:
RSo what scumteam are you most paranoid of? Lol, depends on the minute and who posted last sometimes That's why I'm pushing LM who I'm fairly confident of. This vote should make the first day more clear, and hopefully give us new information to work with. Assuming I'm right on LM, I'm hoping to find the third scum after the vote Day 3. Or at least fully clear 1 or 2 more of my town leans. Please explain which of your town leans mislynching me would clear and why? This is a weird question LM. If I believed that you were town, I would not be pushing you for lynch. Assuming you're mafia, with two reds flipped it would bring a new dynamic to the Day 1 vote to evaluate, and also information from how the Day 2 vote goes, that might allow me to clear one or more of the people I'm not sure of. And if this is a mislynch, well...that's harder. So I'm hoping it's not. The fact of the matter is that based on the Day 1 vote, your behavior is the only behavior that doesn't read townie to me at all, in the sense I can't think of reasons that make it town. You said that you didn't have the time to know when WW voted vice trfel, but you were there at EoD while all the switching was going on. I can see getting a little lost (I did -_-), but that post read so very much like "oh, good lord, there is a reason that WW could be scum, yay now I can switch without looking scummy". I don't know how else to put it. I'm glad you're coming out now, but if you're town, it's probably too little, too late. Note the other less active players with small filters. They're in the thread making reads, asking questions, on a semi-regular basis. Your activity is more sporadic. It makes it hard for me to objectively look at you, look at them, and say hey that person is scum and LM is town. Give me a reason to believe a player here is more likely to be scum than you. Why is it a weird question? Your statement is essentially "if he flips town, it will give me the alignment of 1 or 2 players". What I am asking is you to explain whose alignments you can deduce from me flipping town, and the logic by which you would do so. I said assuming I'm right on you, LM. I'm pushing you as scum. So my statement has nothing to do with you flipping town? Aha, ok. I read that as "or if I am wrong (and he flips town)" but I guess it makes sense the other way, too. Still would like to hear the logic for who it clears and why.
If you're scum I expect some of the resistance to your lynch today to come from scum, with only 2 scum left. That's kind of a given. I'd be looking for people finding reasons to cast doubt on a wide net of other players in an attempt to find a counterwagon that sticks, or for their votes/reads to not be coming from a place that reads genuine, or something of that nature. It's not something I'm paying close attention to now because I don't want to start worrying about a third scum until you've flipped scum and I know I'm right. If I'm not I have to reevaluate everything.
Voting analysis cross-checked with read progressions is what I like to base my scumhunting on. It's why I'm not down for a Bresh lynch, or a Shining lynch, and why Damdred makes me eeeeehhh somewhere in the neutral range. So the voting Day 2, plus your alignment added to a second read-through of the voting Day 1.
Essentially I'm not going to be able to give you a list of names until the day is done. It's all what-if's and hypotheticals, especially when a good portion of the analysis will be based on what happens between now and EoD.
Does that make sense to you?
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On January 25 2015 01:50 Damdred wrote:
The point today where I went this can't be town Geript was when he looked at breshkes post about why LM was scum and was like "this is great reasons haven't read any good reasons" which is a paraphrase. It struck me as odd and really disjointed towards the game since a lot of it was already stated before.
Then you go and look back a bit and Geript lacks a little bit of follow up when you aren't directly talking to him, which bothered me a bit.
I have a nullish read (you), though hell if you're scum and think that scumming geript is going to help you win, you're brighter than that I think...and a couple town-ish reads that could go mafia. One of them has to be if it isn't you. So please put a pin in this so we can discuss it later, provided you survive the lynch today.
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On January 25 2015 02:04 Damdred wrote:
I was answering the charges that LM brought against me, which btw its odd he spent more time hammering on the secondary thread sentiment in Damdred then someone who he said is his preferred lynch in breshke don't you think?
I'm not reading anything that convinces me LM is town, if that's what you're asking. But I am looking back through your filter. The Shining reads have always made sense to me, so that point at least is weak. I'll get back to the thread on the rest.
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On January 19 2015 00:11 Damdred wrote:
GB reaction is priceless I'd rather not lynch the bear.
And that's what GB does, likes killing lurkers early
On January 19 2015 04:29 Damdred wrote:
Cause I really am meh and I could want to lynch a lot of people and change my mind at this point.
GB besides a couple of moments you have been meh and uninteresting .
On January 19 2015 04:36 Damdred wrote:
Meh GB is town from this more than likely.
GB was being boring now he's not.
I agree these weren't compelling arguments in favor of GB, any more than my arguments that trfel wasn't being trfel or my tone read on JJB were, but it's not like he's not explaining the read. People just didn't like the explanation xP
That said, Damdy, going through your filter one of the main problems I see is that I keep having to click on the little number thingy to take me to the thread just to get a frame of reference for what you're talking about. That makes it very easy for scum and lazy town to take you out of context if you're town.
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On January 25 2015 02:41 Damdred wrote:
Rsoultin doing POE this is where I am currently
JarJar
Rsoultin
DP
Shining/Breshke
Geript
LM
If you had to pick two people I was most wrong about which two would it be?
No one is listening that I don't want to get into this right now. Okay. Frankly, I don't think you're wrong. I was waffling on DP a few times but I still really like his filter and I think he believes LM is town even if I don't agree with him.
If LM is scum, geript actually looks worse to me than DP. And I do think LM is scum, which is the main reason I don't want to get into it; I feel like my reads right now are mostly associative, with the exception of JJB, Shining and Breshke.
You three I've been trying to work out. I really want LM to flip so I can see where my reads stand then.
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On January 25 2015 02:42 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 01:51 rsoultin wrote:On January 25 2015 01:39 LoneMeow wrote:On January 25 2015 01:33 rsoultin wrote:On January 25 2015 01:26 LoneMeow wrote:On January 25 2015 01:15 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 19:39 LoneMeow wrote:On January 24 2015 08:26 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 08:19 Breshke wrote:
RSo what scumteam are you most paranoid of? Lol, depends on the minute and who posted last sometimes That's why I'm pushing LM who I'm fairly confident of. This vote should make the first day more clear, and hopefully give us new information to work with. Assuming I'm right on LM, I'm hoping to find the third scum after the vote Day 3. Or at least fully clear 1 or 2 more of my town leans. Please explain which of your town leans mislynching me would clear and why? This is a weird question LM. If I believed that you were town, I would not be pushing you for lynch. Assuming you're mafia, with two reds flipped it would bring a new dynamic to the Day 1 vote to evaluate, and also information from how the Day 2 vote goes, that might allow me to clear one or more of the people I'm not sure of. And if this is a mislynch, well...that's harder. So I'm hoping it's not. The fact of the matter is that based on the Day 1 vote, your behavior is the only behavior that doesn't read townie to me at all, in the sense I can't think of reasons that make it town. You said that you didn't have the time to know when WW voted vice trfel, but you were there at EoD while all the switching was going on. I can see getting a little lost (I did -_-), but that post read so very much like "oh, good lord, there is a reason that WW could be scum, yay now I can switch without looking scummy". I don't know how else to put it. I'm glad you're coming out now, but if you're town, it's probably too little, too late. Note the other less active players with small filters. They're in the thread making reads, asking questions, on a semi-regular basis. Your activity is more sporadic. It makes it hard for me to objectively look at you, look at them, and say hey that person is scum and LM is town. Give me a reason to believe a player here is more likely to be scum than you. Why is it a weird question? Your statement is essentially "if he flips town, it will give me the alignment of 1 or 2 players". What I am asking is you to explain whose alignments you can deduce from me flipping town, and the logic by which you would do so. I said assuming I'm right on you, LM. I'm pushing you as scum. So my statement has nothing to do with you flipping town? Aha, ok. I read that as "or if I am wrong (and he flips town)" but I guess it makes sense the other way, too. Still would like to hear the logic for who it clears and why. If you're scum I expect some of the resistance to your lynch today to come from scum, with only 2 scum left. That's kind of a given. I'd be looking for people finding reasons to cast doubt on a wide net of other players in an attempt to find a counterwagon that sticks, or for their votes/reads to not be coming from a place that reads genuine, or something of that nature. It's not something I'm paying close attention to now because I don't want to start worrying about a third scum until you've flipped scum and I know I'm right. If I'm not I have to reevaluate everything. Voting analysis cross-checked with read progressions is what I like to base my scumhunting on. It's why I'm not down for a Bresh lynch, or a Shining lynch, and why Damdred makes me eeeeehhh somewhere in the neutral range. So the voting Day 2, plus your alignment added to a second read-through of the voting Day 1. Essentially I'm not going to be able to give you a list of names until the day is done. It's all what-if's and hypotheticals, especially when a good portion of the analysis will be based on what happens between now and EoD. Does that make sense to you? Okay, I see what you meant now. Since I'm town, do you think the resistance to lynching me is more likely coming from scum trying to look better after the flip or town reading me correctly?
:/ How should I know? If you look super scummy to most of the player base I think it's equally likely for scum to tr you so they can look better, or to just go with it for the mislynch. It entirely depends on how many town are on your wagon.
What I can say is DP needs to do a better job explaining his read on you because I still can't follow it @.@ and he's the only one I think who actually has said he thinks you're town.
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On January 25 2015 03:05 geript wrote:
I'm so tired of this elo hell.
You mentioned this before. What does elo stand for?
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Damdred, please walk me through your read progression on geript.
On January 18 2015 06:15 Damdred wrote:
He really hasn't posted any reads quite yet so he hasn't answered my question at this point so not much to garner yet.
Geript has some good thoughts in his posts. I can't really tell his alignment yet
That was your Damdred post mentioning alignment (null is my interpretation). In his initial large reads posts he just mentioned Geript's first post. I agree that one post alone is hard to judge anyone by so this isn't a red flag for me...
On January 19 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.
Geript is pretty town, if he's alive after d2 and no roles claim he's pulling a Russian mafia but he looks super towny
LS is town based on hi a addiction to meta as town.
Jjb is mafia I think
As a point of curiosity, what did you mean there, Damdred? I don't understand the significance of people claiming roles.
On January 20 2015 09:22 Damdred wrote:
Lol, Geript might actually be Scum after those posts.
Please clarify which posts. I know what I think you're saying, but it's better if you just tell me. I've linked where this post was in the thread.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475036-student-mafia-v?page=50#999
On January 20 2015 11:54 Damdred wrote:
Geript, lets say I calmed down and have taken a step back and gazed over your filters in Russian mafia and here. Im comfortable saying the anger here isn't like what happens in Russian where you are just 100% cool until you get caught by what you deem to be an imbalanced game.
I don't see you throwing doubts on people as mafia in this case, you would roll with it and bus your team mate without questioning claims I think.
I think you are towny this game, and shouldn't let my paranoia get the better of me probably.
So that leaves me with staring at (minus town reads)
Breshke
LM
geript talk to me about DP. How sure are you that hes town right here? I know you were pretty sure earlier?
Can you explain Russian to me? This is the second time you've mentioned it in trying to determine geript's alignment.
On January 23 2015 23:22 Damdred wrote:
DP seems to be involved and connected to the game and giving thoughts, I think even though I have some doubts about him I don't think he would connect himself with the scum team like this if LM is scum which is a real possibility.
Breshke looks the best coming into today really putting in the effort to try to solve the game and answer questions about him
Rsoultin looks great as well, questioning everything and seems paranoid enough to be towny plus actions before.
Jarjar: Un cc'd blue
Town:
Breshke
Rsoultin
DP
JarJar
I think, that Geript feels really disconnected from the game and he sometimes really lacks followup and can't really tell what hes doing anymore. Really seems like yesterday he was disparaging the claim of LS and JarJar trying to put doubts setting up trfels counter claim which trfel totally fell through with. But that's wifom, besides that. The question about the day 1 lynch will bother people because why would mafia want to pull off a town? Perhaps to stop town from lynching LM as a last second lynch, as GB myself both lost ton of traction and GB my main pusher stopped and jarjar was claiming blue so getting people from looking at LM would be good.
LM is the other mafia I think, not trying to solve the game.
I think tis geript and LM at this point. But we will see and geript will give me tons of flack for this post I know hehe
##Vote LM
So...these are the actual times that I've noticed a distinct read change in Damdred's filter on geript. Geript, what makes this scummy to you? Apart from, you know, you not liking people thinking you could be scum, anyway.
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On January 25 2015 03:49 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 03:43 rsoultin wrote:Damdred, please walk me through your read progression on geript. On January 18 2015 06:15 Damdred wrote:
He really hasn't posted any reads quite yet so he hasn't answered my question at this point so not much to garner yet.
Geript has some good thoughts in his posts. I can't really tell his alignment yet That was your Damdred post mentioning alignment (null is my interpretation). In his initial large reads posts he just mentioned Geript's first post. I agree that one post alone is hard to judge anyone by so this isn't a red flag for me... On January 19 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.
Geript is pretty town, if he's alive after d2 and no roles claim he's pulling a Russian mafia but he looks super towny
LS is town based on hi a addiction to meta as town.
Jjb is mafia I think As a point of curiosity, what did you mean there, Damdred? I don't understand the significance of people claiming roles. On January 20 2015 09:22 Damdred wrote:
Lol, Geript might actually be Scum after those posts. Please clarify which posts. I know what I think you're saying, but it's better if you just tell me. I've linked where this post was in the thread. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475036-student-mafia-v?page=50#999On January 20 2015 11:54 Damdred wrote:
Geript, lets say I calmed down and have taken a step back and gazed over your filters in Russian mafia and here. Im comfortable saying the anger here isn't like what happens in Russian where you are just 100% cool until you get caught by what you deem to be an imbalanced game.
I don't see you throwing doubts on people as mafia in this case, you would roll with it and bus your team mate without questioning claims I think.
I think you are towny this game, and shouldn't let my paranoia get the better of me probably.
So that leaves me with staring at (minus town reads)
Breshke
LM
geript talk to me about DP. How sure are you that hes town right here? I know you were pretty sure earlier? Can you explain Russian to me? This is the second time you've mentioned it in trying to determine geript's alignment. On January 23 2015 23:22 Damdred wrote:
DP seems to be involved and connected to the game and giving thoughts, I think even though I have some doubts about him I don't think he would connect himself with the scum team like this if LM is scum which is a real possibility.
Breshke looks the best coming into today really putting in the effort to try to solve the game and answer questions about him
Rsoultin looks great as well, questioning everything and seems paranoid enough to be towny plus actions before.
Jarjar: Un cc'd blue
Town:
Breshke
Rsoultin
DP
JarJar
I think, that Geript feels really disconnected from the game and he sometimes really lacks followup and can't really tell what hes doing anymore. Really seems like yesterday he was disparaging the claim of LS and JarJar trying to put doubts setting up trfels counter claim which trfel totally fell through with. But that's wifom, besides that. The question about the day 1 lynch will bother people because why would mafia want to pull off a town? Perhaps to stop town from lynching LM as a last second lynch, as GB myself both lost ton of traction and GB my main pusher stopped and jarjar was claiming blue so getting people from looking at LM would be good.
LM is the other mafia I think, not trying to solve the game.
I think tis geript and LM at this point. But we will see and geript will give me tons of flack for this post I know hehe
##Vote LM So...these are the actual times that I've noticed a distinct read change in Damdred's filter on geript. Geript, what makes this scummy to you? Apart from, you know, you not liking people thinking you could be scum, anyway. To the first question, Geript would normally be a high priority night kill. Obviously with both of our blues coming out early he would be shuffled down the list but if he was alive with no blues claimed then it would be possible hes scum at that point. That point it was all so random posting and made it seem like Geript was questioning whether LS actually had a red check on trfel and was throwing a bit of shadow in my mind on the claim. Was just a weird series of posts by geript at that point. Russian mafia geript played one of the best games of scum I ever saw him play, really town sided a lot of the time did just enough to get mislynches, ended up getting caught by a tracker/watcher though. Was a fun game though.
So then am I right in interpreting your referencing Russian as a reason to be paranoid of geript even when his posts seem townie?
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On January 25 2015 03:58 geript wrote:
Things you have to take into account of the early D2 posting. First I was sick. Second, I fully expected a CC. Like, what sort of idiot mafia don't CC LS there?
geript, no one is pushing you for the lynch right now.
Besides, if scum CCs LS on Day 2...either people believe LS and kill trfel anyway (the correct move, because you can verify him, lynch one scum and identify the second that way, or immediately lynch the fake-claimed ls the next day and clear the cc), giving town two obv scum to lynch early in the game, or they lynch ls and still give town two obv scum...
A CC would be bad for mafia there.
Please tell me what about Damdred's reads on you makes you think he's scum?
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On January 25 2015 04:10 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 03:19 rsoultin wrote:On January 25 2015 03:05 geript wrote:
I'm so tired of this elo hell. You mentioned this before. What does elo stand for? ELO is a rating system originally used in chess but adopted for a number of other games.
Hrum, so just calling everyone bad again? Okay.
-shrugs- I suppose, re: the CC. You've played more games as scum than I have. Everyone seems to have different opinions. I was just told last game, for instance, that scum tends to be very reluctant to claim roles. I'm sure it's situational, but it does leave an auto-lynch once the dumbassery is over, so I'd personally expect it more late than early game in general.
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On January 25 2015 04:24 geript wrote:
In semi-open games, you're right. Mafia tend to just accept a claim and kill it. Open setups are an exceptionally different beast though.
Your reason for thinking Damdred's reads progression on you is scummy?
Or any of his other flip-flop reads you mentioned, for that matter.
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On January 25 2015 04:27 geript wrote:
Also, if I were calling you bad, then I'd just call you bad. I'm really surprised that you're on TL and don't understand what elo hell is. Like the people around you being bad might have part of it. In my experience it's more an issue of people not listening, doing dumb shit, randomly because caught out by the opponents stupidly doing things they shouldn't that of course end up working well for them, etc.
Lol, I'm not a gamer, geript. Far from. I like games like...poker, catan, risk...so I don't really belong on this site except for the mafia. I like this game a lot. ^^ Regardless, thanks for explaining.
I'd agree that games like this have too many townies not acting very townie, which makes it extra hard to find scum...especially if scum doesn't have to really even try. It's why I haven't been quick to jump on what can easily be newbie bad instead of scum most of this game.
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On January 25 2015 04:59 geript wrote:
Like I'm being honest in that it would in no way surprise me that mafia was just afk. Because in some regards the game kinda feels like that and it's LM/Shining or similar. But at this point, everyone who scumreads me or even suggests such bullshit will be up for a lynch because that's literally preposterous.
geript, I don't know why you insist that it's impossible that anyone could think you are scum. Because I <I>literally</I> have entertained that possibility off-and-on throughout the game. I know I'm a newbie. I know I barely know you and can't meta-read you at all. But I also know I'm not a complete moron, so if there's something in your play that has me questioning you, then no, it is not preposterous for anyone to scumread you.
Where do you get this highly elevated view of your play? I mean, this is a serious question. You said earlier in this game no one can read you right, yet now you're on about how anyone possibly even suggesting you're scum must be scum because it's impossible for anyone to think so?
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On January 25 2015 05:26 geript wrote:
People don't read me right because they don't bother to think in my experience. It doesn't really require meta. Like you don't even ask, "what's he doing? Is he doing mafia things?" because that's really not how you read me. You look at what I'm thinking about. As mafia, my thoughts never really match; like there's a huge jump and points I have don't flow into each other in a coherent way. Thoughts (and thought process) won't always make sense or seem logical, but there's a clear thought that leads into another thought and so on. Wheels churn and one thing gets me interested in another thing that seems random but it's connected in a very natural way. That's the thing that I can't ever fake as mafia.
-squints at-
so...as mafia your thoughts don't match
or...as town your thoughts may seem random, but they do connect
without being in your head I'm not sure how anyone could tell the difference between not matching and seemingly random? o.0
well, regardless, I guess you've explained why you find his reads scummy, though i'm not sure how that helps the rest of us, lol. at least it doesn't really help me. I don't know how damdred normally treats you in a game when he's mafia.
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On January 25 2015 05:42 DarthPunk wrote:There is no way geript is scum here. If Geript is scum this game I will need to re-evaluate the way I play but I don't see it happening. Like, people are askling me to explain my town read on LM and I can do so whilst explain the way I read things period and perhaps it will help people with geript also. When I am reading the thread sometimes posts will pop up that are really unlikely to come from scum because the reasoning being used only really makes sense if that person is town. Case in point: Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 19:42 LoneMeow wrote:On January 24 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
A team of DP + 1 that isnt LM is making me really paranoid.
I don't understand DP's play. People have been saying him and LM could be a team even geript who had been townreading him. He then continues to defend LM seemingly without really thinking about it or analyzing it. As town i would think he would be more careful and actually look into it properly as people already think they are a team and think LM is probable scum, even geript.
I get this weird sense that he wants that he wants to look like he is aligned with LM because none really seems to be considering him a possible scum outside of that team. I'm also really kind of worried about DarthPunk. I know I am town and he's distancing himself from the lynch, it just smells scummy especially when the reasons are so weak. But every time I go check on him I can't pin down anything concrete that would give me a real scum read other than this. This post here looks really townie to me because it is an open window to a townie mindset. It shows healthy paranoia and the rationale is coming from a place that only makes sense from a Town!LM perspective. Then he looks at my filter and decides there is no reason to call me scum. He is collecting and analyzing information and changing his position based on that. I like this post so much that as soon as I read it I again decided I didn't want to lynch him. As for geript, there are countless posts in his filter that make me think he is town, further, I don;tn think scum could or would switch their style up like that mid game from an easier to fake style of posting. ( large constructed posts) to a harder to fake style (conversational ITT)
I will give you this. If you're right about LoneMeow you are probably also right about geript, and I would not want to lynch him Day 4. That post in and of itself doesn't seem scummy to me, either, but from a paranoid perspective him saying his defender appears town while finding a reason to scumread his couterwagon is not terrible play if he's trying to get out of a lynch. It's his play as a whole that I'm reading.
If you are not right about LM...well, I'll address your geript read, then. There are a few points in his play that make me suspicious of him with a trfel/lm scumteam.
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On January 25 2015 05:57 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 05:49 rsoultin wrote:
but from a paranoid perspective him saying his defender appears town while finding a reason to scumread his couterwagon is not terrible play if he's trying to get out of a lynch. It's his play as a whole that I'm reading.
Explain where this is happening. First of all he called me scummy in that post more than he calls me townie. And he calls his only defender scummy! do you see scum ever doing that?!??! That is suicide from someone whose win condition depends on survival. But makes perfect sense from someone whose win condition is predicated on solving the alignments of others!
-sighs- You really get worked up over small things.
He said he was worried about you. He said what appeared to be distancing from the lynch could be scummy. And then said he can't find scum in your filter.
That is not calling you scummy, not in my book. He only said this at all because Breshke asked him. Look at your own quote. I am looking at what he literally said. He literally said something you're doing could be scummy but he doesn't think so because of your filter.
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I will probably be voting Damdred if LM flips town, but I don't think he will, DP. I'm sorry.
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EPT
