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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
January 08 2015 15:24 GMT
#6361
Also funny wording.

You say all your case on me was sheeping Koshi, but IF YOU HAD TO CHOOSE, you'd lynch ritoky or superbia.

Rofl
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:24 GMT
#6362
Yes. I said that I wanted to lynch you because of Koshi and that I thought that we should lynch Super and Ritoky too because I think that Eden's reads were good. THEY WERE FUCKIGN GOOD. THEY WERE THE EXACT FUCKING READS I HAD IF YOU LOOK AT MY FUCKING POSTS
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 08 2015 15:25 GMT
#6363
this might be my favourite passage of the game yet
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:26 GMT
#6364
Vivax, I hope you're scum. I really do. Because like. Man. Words can't describe how you make me feel right now
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:27 GMT
#6365
On January 09 2015 00:25 marvellosity wrote:
this might be my favourite passage of the game yet

HE'S QUOTING THINGS THAT CONFIRM ME AS TOWN AND COMES TO THE CONCLUSION THAT I'M SCUM FOR IT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WORLD HE'S LIVING IN!!?!?!?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 08 2015 15:27 GMT
#6366
oh, I think Vivax might actually be on to something.

Got any more Vivax?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:28 GMT
#6367
Oh sweet jesus. Give me the release
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
January 08 2015 15:28 GMT
#6368
You're full of shit Robik.

Super voted you at EoD, but you townread him cause he voted me previously.

You wanted to kill me cause Koshi, but your real scumreads were superbia and ritoky. YOu townread superbia when he votes me, you don't scumread him when he votes you at EoD. Kelsier and JAT were begging for a switch to him, you didn't do anything except call us bad before and after geript was lynched.

You're eaaaaasy bro.Easy scumread.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 08 2015 15:29 GMT
#6369
time for Robik to start posting baby seals tbh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:29 GMT
#6370
On January 09 2015 00:28 Vivax wrote:
You're full of shit Robik.

Super voted you at EoD, but you townread him cause he voted me previously.

You wanted to kill me cause Koshi, but your real scumreads were superbia and ritoky. YOu townread superbia when he votes me, you don't scumread him when he votes you at EoD. Kelsier and JAT were begging for a switch to him, you didn't do anything except call us bad before and after geript was lynched.

You're eaaaaasy bro.Easy scumread.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKINGA BOUT. HE VOTED ME AT END OF DAY ON A DAY THAT HE GOT LYNCHED AS CONFIRMED MAFIA. WHY AM I GOING TO SCUM READ HIM WHEN HE'S DEAD!?!?!? I'VE BEEN FUCKING SCUM READING HIM. READ EVERY SINGLE FUCKING POST I'VE MADE THIS ENTIRE FUCKING GAME.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:30 GMT
#6371
On January 09 2015 00:29 marvellosity wrote:
time for Robik to start posting baby seals tbh

[image loading]

just 1 for you
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 08 2015 15:31 GMT
#6372
well that's it, confirmed mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
January 08 2015 15:31 GMT
#6373
He also voted you EoD 2 when we lynched geript.

On January 05 2015 14:12 Alakaslam wrote:
I Count this vote sons


Vivax (3): IAmRobik, marvellosity, Palmar, justanothertownie, artanis[xP], VisceraEyes, DoctorHelvetica, Sicklucker, geript, ritoky
Superbia (4): artanis[xP], sicklucker, Damdred, Artanis[XP], sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie
IAmRobik (1): geript, Superbia
sicklucker (0): ritoky, superbia
TheChyz (0): Palmar
geript (6): Vivax, Artanis[xP], DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, justanothertownie, Artanis[XP]

Geript is lynched.
Deadline is in


IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:32 GMT
#6374
On January 02 2015 16:00 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 15:58 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, here's some vote count analysis. First, the count, hidden behind double quotes for readability. Added green for batsnacks' flip.

On January 02 2015 13:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
I kount vot


ritoky (1): DoctorHelvetica, sicklucker, marvellosity, Superbia

TheChyz (3): Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Vivax, TheChyz, Batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[Xp]

DoctorHelvetica (0): TheChyz, Koshi

geript (4): Koshi, Artanis[Xp], Palmar, Artanis[XP], Lazermonkey, DoctorHelvetica, Marvellosity, justanothertownie, KelsierSC, sicklucker, Eden1892

marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp]

Lazermonkey (0): TheChyz, Batsnacks

IAmRobik (0): Artanis[XP]

sicklucker (1): ritoky

Vivax (2): Koshi, geript

Batsnacks (6): Justanothertownie, eden1892, doctorhelvetica, artanis[Xp], damdred, sicklucker

Not Voting: folks

Currently batsnacks is set to be lynched.

until deadline.


First thing I want to look at is outliers, because I think they tend to be easier to figure out. The three wagons at end of day were Chyz, geript and batsnacks, so all other voters are defined as outliers here. They are:

Superbia
ritoky
Koshi
geript

Additionally the nonvoting RebirthOfLegend can go here.

Superbia:
Has all of two posts in the game, neither of any substance. Says ritoky claimed mafia with their big reads post without explaining why, votes ritoky and then bails for the rest of the day, not bothering to convince anyone to vote for ritoky. Ignores JAT asking for an explanation, no one else really seems to care either way.

I don't like this. For all I can derive from Superbia's thought process from this vote, this might as well be a dice roll vote. There's nothing here for me to make any sense of. If Superbia is town and believes ritoky is mafia then why not try to convince anyone to kill ritoky? And if Superbia doesn't then why completely abandon the thread and not bother to try to figure out who is mafia?

ritoky:
After the vote (which came between his big reads list post and his next post itt), ritoky only brings up the case on sicklucker once... when sicklucker questions him on it. Spends most of the day being engaged in other discussions and feeling out other players for their direction, but doesn't push the case on sicklucker. And it's not even not pushing it because of a change of heart or anything, as far as I can see. The case is just dropped altogether without any mention, like it never existed. After talking to sicklucker there's only one passing reference to the suspicion at all (responding to GlowingBear and saying they were "on the same page" concerning, among others, sicklucker).

This is really suspicious considering how aggressively ritoky pushed early in the game. Even allowing for a change in posting style due to time constraints resulting from ER work, you figure that if ritoky is still sure about the read on sicklucker that there'd be some effort to push it. And ritoky can't even claim to have had a change of heart, because sometime during ritoky's last burst of activity, (s)he posted an updated vote count including the vote for sicklucker. I feel like if I were a townie here and I had posted that vote count update after suspecting sicklucker, and I had internally changed my mind about sicklucker being mafia, posting that I was voting for sicklucker would be a wakeup call. Like "whoa, wait, I'm still on that guy? I need to move my vote."

Koshi:
Arrived at suspicion of Vivax about an hour before posting a vote, pressed Vivax on a few key questions during that hour, pushed the hell out of a Vivax lynch before going to bed at a time which 100% syncs up with his irl location.

Sorry that was short but this looks clean as can be. Only reason Koshi was on an outlier was because of a lack of time to push the case once it formulated. Koshi is probably town.

geript:
On January 02 2015 14:24 geript wrote:
Not ideal. I just assumed I was going to be lynched or at worst Chyz. Best option Vivax. I get why Bat was sketch, but why the last second switch?

This is garbage.

Vivax wasn't a viable wagon at all when geript posted and geript had enough time to see that. It was 20 minutes before the lynch. The switch wasn't even last-second, it was last-hour. At the time he voted Chyz was in no danger of being voted off. How do you check in to a voting thread and vote for someone who isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed? And especially if you "get why Bat was sketch," how in the world do you have a hangup about voting for him and instead park on an outlier?

And then there's this gem shortly before:

On January 02 2015 12:23 geript wrote:
Vivax is probably an ok lynch but I'm not actually sold that he'll flip mafia.


So now it's checking into a voting thread, voting for someone you're not even sure is mafia who also isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed.

geript has a lot of explaining to do. Doc asks a good question about why mafia!geript does this in light of batsnacks flipping town; I feel like the answer that came to mind for me (not wanting to be a town wagon) isn't a very good one, and it's still the best one I have. But I don't get the townie mindset that leads to ^^^that.


TL;DR
ritoky, Superbia mafia
geript wtf

You shouldn't do such baller analysis -- you might die in the night.

P.S. I came to the same conclusion as your regarding your scum reads. Excellent work


On January 02 2015 16:27 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 16:24 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 02 2015 16:00 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 02 2015 15:58 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, here's some vote count analysis. First, the count, hidden behind double quotes for readability. Added green for batsnacks' flip.

On January 02 2015 13:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
I kount vot


ritoky (1): DoctorHelvetica, sicklucker, marvellosity, Superbia

TheChyz (3): Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Vivax, TheChyz, Batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[Xp]

DoctorHelvetica (0): TheChyz, Koshi

geript (4): Koshi, Artanis[Xp], Palmar, Artanis[XP], Lazermonkey, DoctorHelvetica, Marvellosity, justanothertownie, KelsierSC, sicklucker, Eden1892

marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp]

Lazermonkey (0): TheChyz, Batsnacks

IAmRobik (0): Artanis[XP]

sicklucker (1): ritoky

Vivax (2): Koshi, geript

Batsnacks (6): Justanothertownie, eden1892, doctorhelvetica, artanis[Xp], damdred, sicklucker

Not Voting: folks

Currently batsnacks is set to be lynched.

until deadline.


First thing I want to look at is outliers, because I think they tend to be easier to figure out. The three wagons at end of day were Chyz, geript and batsnacks, so all other voters are defined as outliers here. They are:

Superbia
ritoky
Koshi
geript

Additionally the nonvoting RebirthOfLegend can go here.

Superbia:
Has all of two posts in the game, neither of any substance. Says ritoky claimed mafia with their big reads post without explaining why, votes ritoky and then bails for the rest of the day, not bothering to convince anyone to vote for ritoky. Ignores JAT asking for an explanation, no one else really seems to care either way.

I don't like this. For all I can derive from Superbia's thought process from this vote, this might as well be a dice roll vote. There's nothing here for me to make any sense of. If Superbia is town and believes ritoky is mafia then why not try to convince anyone to kill ritoky? And if Superbia doesn't then why completely abandon the thread and not bother to try to figure out who is mafia?

ritoky:
After the vote (which came between his big reads list post and his next post itt), ritoky only brings up the case on sicklucker once... when sicklucker questions him on it. Spends most of the day being engaged in other discussions and feeling out other players for their direction, but doesn't push the case on sicklucker. And it's not even not pushing it because of a change of heart or anything, as far as I can see. The case is just dropped altogether without any mention, like it never existed. After talking to sicklucker there's only one passing reference to the suspicion at all (responding to GlowingBear and saying they were "on the same page" concerning, among others, sicklucker).

This is really suspicious considering how aggressively ritoky pushed early in the game. Even allowing for a change in posting style due to time constraints resulting from ER work, you figure that if ritoky is still sure about the read on sicklucker that there'd be some effort to push it. And ritoky can't even claim to have had a change of heart, because sometime during ritoky's last burst of activity, (s)he posted an updated vote count including the vote for sicklucker. I feel like if I were a townie here and I had posted that vote count update after suspecting sicklucker, and I had internally changed my mind about sicklucker being mafia, posting that I was voting for sicklucker would be a wakeup call. Like "whoa, wait, I'm still on that guy? I need to move my vote."

Koshi:
Arrived at suspicion of Vivax about an hour before posting a vote, pressed Vivax on a few key questions during that hour, pushed the hell out of a Vivax lynch before going to bed at a time which 100% syncs up with his irl location.

Sorry that was short but this looks clean as can be. Only reason Koshi was on an outlier was because of a lack of time to push the case once it formulated. Koshi is probably town.

geript:
On January 02 2015 14:24 geript wrote:
Not ideal. I just assumed I was going to be lynched or at worst Chyz. Best option Vivax. I get why Bat was sketch, but why the last second switch?

This is garbage.

Vivax wasn't a viable wagon at all when geript posted and geript had enough time to see that. It was 20 minutes before the lynch. The switch wasn't even last-second, it was last-hour. At the time he voted Chyz was in no danger of being voted off. How do you check in to a voting thread and vote for someone who isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed? And especially if you "get why Bat was sketch," how in the world do you have a hangup about voting for him and instead park on an outlier?

And then there's this gem shortly before:

On January 02 2015 12:23 geript wrote:
Vivax is probably an ok lynch but I'm not actually sold that he'll flip mafia.


So now it's checking into a voting thread, voting for someone you're not even sure is mafia who also isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed.

geript has a lot of explaining to do. Doc asks a good question about why mafia!geript does this in light of batsnacks flipping town; I feel like the answer that came to mind for me (not wanting to be a town wagon) isn't a very good one, and it's still the best one I have. But I don't get the townie mindset that leads to ^^^that.


TL;DR
ritoky, Superbia mafia
geript wtf

You shouldn't do such baller analysis -- you might die in the night.

P.S. I came to the same conclusion as your regarding your scum reads. Excellent work

Thanks bae. Anything to add?

Not really. I was just randomly clicking on filters and I saw that superbia's was utter garbage and we should lynch him like 90% of the time tomorrow
Then I remembered how much I wanted to lynch Ritoky.

So like I said, you done did great (no that's not an error)


BOTH OF THESE POSTS WERE IN THE FUCKING NIGHT BEFORE EITHER KOSHI OR EDEN DIED. GET OUT OF MY FACE
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
January 08 2015 15:33 GMT
#6375
Robik right now:

IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:34 GMT
#6376
On January 09 2015 00:31 Vivax wrote:
He also voted you EoD 2 when we lynched geript.

Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 14:12 Alakaslam wrote:
I Count this vote sons


Vivax (3): IAmRobik, marvellosity, Palmar, justanothertownie, artanis[xP], VisceraEyes, DoctorHelvetica, Sicklucker, geript, ritoky
Superbia (4): artanis[xP], sicklucker, Damdred, Artanis[XP], sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie
IAmRobik (1): geript, Superbia
sicklucker (0): ritoky, superbia
TheChyz (0): Palmar
geript (6): Vivax, Artanis[xP], DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, justanothertownie, Artanis[XP]

Geript is lynched.
Deadline is in



Why am I supposed to scum read him for that? Like I've scum read him for every fucking action that he's had all game besides the fact that he kinda wanted to lynch you and now that I know he and ritoky are scum, I even said that I'm reconsidering on you. THAT'S A FUCKING LOGICAL PROGRESSION BUTTMUNCH
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 08 2015 15:34 GMT
#6377
so because superbia, the mafia, voted robik

robik is mafia?
Zerg for Life
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:36 GMT
#6378
Marv, don't open this:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 08 2015 15:36 GMT
#6379
gross.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:37 GMT
#6380
On January 04 2015 04:16 IAmRobik wrote:
im on pg 137, but wanted to remind everyone not to forget that we are lynching superbia tomorrow...also that we need to kill thatother dude eden mentioned (i forget who it is)

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